September 19, 2025 • 27 mins
Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks return with a new episode of Move the Sticks. They break down every 0-2 team, analyzing the likelihood of each turning their season around. (01:38) Then, DJ and Bucky shift to the undefeated squads, explaining which teams look like legitimate Super Bowl contenders and which ones might be fool’s gold.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to move the sticks? DJ, Buck with you? Buck?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
How are you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey? Go on? Man? Coming up on the weekend. It's
been a great football week Got another look football weekend.
This should have some very interesting and compelling games. And DJ,
we've reached a point of the season, must win week,
so we must win games. Yeah, we're gonna have it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Those oh and three stats are not great, man, When
you start oh and three, not a lot of love there.
So oh and two starts Since nineteen ninety twenty five
or sorry, thirty five of the two hundred and eighty
eight teams to start oh and two made the playoffs.
That's twelve point two percent after an oh and two start.
Say it is a chance, Yeah, you got a shot there.
Last year the Broncos, Ravens, and Rams all pulled it off.
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Only four of one hundred and sixty five teams to
start oh and three, however, I've made the playoffs. That
is two point four percent. And no team has ever
won the Super Bowl after starting oh and three?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh Buck, have you.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Been on any any teams you remember where it started
out kind of rough and you're just sitting here going like,
oh gosh, we might just lost the whole season in
the first two three games.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, not not that. Ruugh the most dire situation that
I've been in. Uh in Jacksonville we were three and six,
and but we ended up nine and seven. So I
turned it around. Look at the glass at pool. Hey,
we always can do it, no matter what, we can
turn this thing around. So that's what some of the
fans need to do. We can turn this thing around.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, well, well, here's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna
give you some I'm gonna give you the teams here,
the oh and two teams, and I'm going to tell
you who we should be most excited or confident about
that the rebound is going to take place here. So
I'm going to list them off here. We've got Houston,
We've got Kansas City, We've got Tennessee. We've got the
New York Jets. We have the Cleveland Browns and the
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Miami Dolphins. That's in the AFC. So let's start first
of all there. Then we'll go to the NFC. So Houston,
Kansas City, Tennessee, the Jets, Cleveland, Miami. Let's uh, let's start.
Let's go with the let's go with a little let's
go with the percentage. So I want you to give
me your confidence percentage that this thing can get turned around,
and we'll start with the Houston Texans. Uh, seventy five percent.
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I believe they Oh, oh you're confident then huh Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think the division plays to this strep even though
in an APIs rent out to two and zero, there's
a sense that they can come back to the pack.
Jacksonville that won and won Tennessee, you're the text. You
won a division the last two years. You kind of
know what it is. You have all those games ahead
of you, so you can make up ground. This defense
still has the pieces to be lights out and if physicality,
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the toughness, and the Demico Ryans factor gives them a
chance on offense, whether or not they become the explosive
outfit and Demiko Rians may just have to go like
they just don't lose the game. We can be going
defense to win it. That's why I'm confident the division
and their defense gives them a chance to get back
on trick. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I mean, look, the only thing about the division is
I think that INDI is better than we thought they
were going to be, So that doesn't look so great.
I would love to give you this answer after this
week when they play your Jacksonville Jaguars, to see what
that looks like. But in their defense, they've played two
good teams, two playoff teams, the Rams and the Bucks.
They've been in both these games all the way down
to the end. So that should give you confidence. You know,
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I'll double up. I'll go seventy five with you, just
kind of here in the argument. Here in the case,
I love the defense so much that being said, the
twenty five percent doubt is based one hundred percent on
the offensive line. For me, I'm not worried about c. J.
Stroud as much as I'm worried about that offensive line.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean, this is a scary deal. They haven't been
good upfront, they've been inconsistent, and the scheme hasn't quite
messed with the quarterback. Those things didn't come play. But
until that happens, I'm telling man, if you just don't
give it away, we get hangs. Because think about it,
they didn't play great against Tampa. They're right there. I
mean the two games they lost, they've been there because
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the defense is solid, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
This is the one I think people are probably the
most surprised by the Kansas City Chiefs sitting here and
going too.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Uh, let's go sixty percent. And the sixty percent is
a bit of a stretch just due to the championship pedigree.
It's the pedigree and Pat Mahomes to the two piece.
They've been in this situation. They understand how to get
to the winter Circle. If they're close, they'll find a
way to get in. If they're close, they have Pat
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Mahomes who can put on the cape and figure out
a way to wield them in. Outside of that, there
are a lot of questions. Offencially, they don't have enough playmakers.
They haven't been able to create it. The backfield is pedestrian.
We talked about all the alliteration, a lot of PE's
and some of those PE's don't go in their way.
They need to find a way to run the ball
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so they can find a way to create those big plays.
Haven't been able to do it. And then Spags is
a great defensive coordinator, but they are more of a
selective stop team more so than a shut them down team,
and when your offense is an explosive, it's hard to
rely on the defense. That's likely.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, I don't want to panic here. I mean I
don't think they've played well e they're missing those receivers.
That's a big part of the problem here. My concern
is almost more with who they're playing versus who they are.
I mean, the schedule's tough. They've got Detroit coming up,
They've got Baltimore coming up inside the division. You still
got to get Denver twice, Vegas twice or you know,
Vegas is gonna be competitive, competitive, You've got a road
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trip to Buffalo. All of a sudden, Indie looks like
that's not not a cakewalk. The Cowboys are going to
score points. You've got Houston, I mean, not an easy run, man.
And you're starting out a little cold here this this
next two weeks. And somehow they if they could, somehow,
you know, win at the Giants this week, which is
very doable. Then you come back, you get the Ravens
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at home. That's the that to me is the barometer there.
If you could, if you they could win their next
two games, we got I know, the Ravens are outstanding,
but that is in Kansas City. If they can somehow
win that game, now you're two and two. I think
they're fine, but I think there's a very real chance
they're looking at being a one in three team, and
that creates some doubts. So I'm gonna I'm gonna again,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna echo your sixty and say that's
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a fair number. I think you got to go better
than fifty percent with the quarterback and the head coach.
But Buck, they don't have a running back that excites me.
They can't get the ball vertically down the field at all,
and I know that's part of the receiver issue. And defensively,
I don't know that there is dominant is. I think
they look tired. They've played a lot of football over
the last five years.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But DJ, this is one from the Good Book where
we're talking about faith. We're talking about thing's unseen. We're
hoping for things that we haven't seen from them. This
is what it is. We haven't seen it, but we're
faithful that the quarterback, the pedigree gives them a chance.
But there's not a lot of tangible evidence that would
tell through two weeks get it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Turned if you if you divorced yourself from the helmet
and the uniform and just saw I'm just evaluating that
football team. Not great, No, there's not a lot, but
we're gonna stick with it. All right, we can go
faster through the rest of these here, Tennessee. Give me
a number on them. I'm at that's who they are.
That's that's a ten chance of them running it around.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, that's what it is. It was from zero to
ten for me. They're not good enough team. They got
a young quarterback, they're just not ready. It's not many
young guys, man, DK. Let's get him rolling. Let's get
these young whiteouts in the mix. Let's just turn Let's
just go all young. The problem that you have, coach,
are the coach and the personnel people on the same
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timeline when it comes to getting it. That's what makes
it hard, because if we're on the same timeline, DJ,
then we can go all day on playing the young
guys in let's progress over the season to get ready
for twenty twenty six. I think it's long rage playing.
If that's what we're gonna do, we'll see if they're
on the same page.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Well, I think that's a Hey, we need to play
the young guys. Let's get these guys up and running,
like well, hey, well, do I have assurances I'm gonna
be back. No, But I'm just telling you it's in
your interest to play the young guys. Like I can't.
I can't make any promises, but let's let's evaluate the
young part of our roster.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
The Jets.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'll go maybe a little bit higher there because I
think the defense, you know, can can still be better
than they've been, and you know, the run game and
we'll see the adjustment fields back healthy. I'm gonna put
them at a twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Buck yeahy twenty five percent. Look, man, they are talented.
I mean, I know they've kind of been the team
where we're talking about the talent for so long, but
they're talented enough to do it. Is Ken Aaron Glynn
find a way to put it together. They need the
run a game to be a big part of it
because the running game will compliment them in terms of
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how they want to play on defense.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But until we get the running game up and going,
that's what it is. It's reasonable Cleveland. I'll go ten.
I'm I think ten's as low as I'm not not too.
You're gonna go zero. Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The quarterback, man, the quarterback, the quarterbacks?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
When are you turning? When are you turning that over
to Dylan Gabriel?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Man? Now, I mean, like to me, they should have
played the young guys from the jump, like, who would
we fooling put the young guys in? Let's see what
it is like. Man, those guys know they don't have
a reasonable chance. And I like Joe Flacco, but DJ,
everybody that's forty years old is not meant to play
the position. And if you can't protect themselves, you can't move.
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Man in today's game, you're limited. He's a sitting duck
in the pocket. They need to flip it over. Maybe
they can't catch a spark. If I would do it,
but it's not gonna happen to put one of those
junk guys in.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So my uh, if I was it was my office
in there, buck, this is a I would be like
an elementary school teacher. If I was sitting there in
the GM job, I would have somebody render a huge
bus and I would have and put all these little
seats on the bus and I go, I go. Guys
like philosophica. This year, this is the twenty twenty six
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Cleveland Browns bus. We're going to find out who these
little we have little images everybody who gets to be
on that bus next year. That's our goal is to
figure out who's on that bus for next year and
starting places.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, exactly what's a little player?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Hey, these old guy not not going to be on
next year's bus, So why are we playing him. Let's
play the guys who have a chance to be on
this group going forward for the next time. That we're
a good football team. So I think that's that's pretty
easy to understand. Miami not confident there, Buck, I'll go
eight percent. I don't know, I don't I don't love
what's going on. Their offensive line is very good. It's
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just the whole thing's stale.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It man, it is so crazy. A team that was
celebrated for their opfensive ingenuity, their creativity, the explosiveness, all
that this team doesn't have a chance. That they're gone.
I think they've not only lost confident, it's in themselves.
You have the point where you're hoping the head coach
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can answer some of the problems that are coming up.
But look, Man, I just don't know where they go
from here. DJ, like they can talk about a new
culture in those things, but it just doesn't look right.
And when it doesn't look right, it just it tends
not to turn around. So we'll see. They're talented. I
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just know if they can get to turn around. Done.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
All right, Let's get over to the NFC. The over
teams on the NFC side, we go to that list. Here,
we've got Carolina, New Orleans, Chicago, and the Giants. I
think there's more optimism and hope with some of these
AFC teams versus some of these NFC teams.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, I think that said, the reality kind of hits
us really hard in the NFC in terms of how
ball we have to go. Let's start with Carolina Panthers.
I saw them up close and personal, DJ. They've done
a really good job of trying to put together the
pieces in the off season. Far behind the people in
the division, the top teams in the division. When I
think about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and even the Atlanta
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Falcons when I look at them, just just a noticeable
difference talent and all of that. They can close to get.
But I don't think they can get in the mix.
I'll give them a fifteen to twenty percent chance.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I'm gonna go to eight percent on that one. I
just don't think they have enough firepower. Man, I don't
think they have enough firepower. But in some ways, this
year will be a success if Bryce Young leans one
way or the other, like if he see mentally got
to know that he's going to figure it out or
he's not, and then you can move on. But I
think that's going to be how this season is determined
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to be a success or not. The New Orleans Saints,
I don't think either one of us had high expectations there.
To be honest with you, I think they've actually been
more competitive than I thought they would be.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I would say that too. I would say the Spencer
Ratler situation has been a bit of a surprise to me,
the way that they've been able to compete. They got
a bunch of prideful veterans that are helping them to
stay uploat. Look, I don't think they're serious contender, but
I think they're competitive. I think Kevin Moore can look
at his team. If they get the six seven wins,
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I would think they would be a success.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
For him as his first year first year coach. Well,
I mean they're going to be going four. They're at
Seattle next and then they're at Buffalo, so they're going
to start out on four. And then then you get
the Giants in New England Chicago like they've got a chance
to try and you know, get some wings in there.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, get some ones in there.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
But I'm not I mean, I'll go with that ten percent,
but they're not going to be a playoff team Chicago.
I think to me, I thought it was better offensively,
at least with with Caleb second week versus the first week.
He went back through all that stuff. He played on schedule,
within the structure. I thought the first half, even early
into the second half, you saw him make some nice rows.
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I thought he got hit a little bit after that,
I thought there were some bodies around his feet and
then you start seeing the ball spray around a little bit.
So I only tackles are very good for all to
talk about them fixing their interior and the tackles are
not good.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
So there's still issues there.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
But I do believe in Ben Johnson, and I do
believe Caleb's going to get better as we go through
and they have. They have enough talent on defense to
be better than what they showed against Detroit. So I
might put them of the NFC. They're the They're the
top contender of these zero to two teams. For me,
I'll put them at like thirty percent that they can
get this thing right.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I think so, and I think what has happened. Unfortunately
for the Bears, they had ridiculous expectations coming into the season.
Some of that is what Ben Johnson did in Detroit
and believe believing that he could take the magic wand
sprinkle the pixie dust over the Bears and they were
going to be like the version of the Detroit lines
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and that's just not true. But I believe in the
second half of the season, when their confidence comes together,
when they begin to believe and trust in all the systems,
this can be a team that plays much better down
the stretch. Is a reasonable thing, that can be a
very competitieam, they're talented enough to be competitive.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, well, this next team is uh.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I feel like has figured out one of our themes
and one of our mottos here on the show, which is,
as a team, it's okay to be bad. It's okay
to be boring. You can't be bad and boring. And
the Giant's actually been kind of fun. It's kind of
fun to watch them against the Dallas Cowboys. So they've
eliminated the boring part of it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That's good. I mean, that's that's that's a big part
of the equation. At least entertain I go there for
three three and a half hours. I want to be entertained,
see some scoring, see the ball flyer around the yard,
look at the league neighbors, you know, have some things
on individual accomplishments that we can go make my fantasy
team look good.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All of those things work, but that division, those teams
forget about. Yeah you go, we go five percent on
that one. Yeah, I go five, I go five. I'm
them t Look, I think they've got some good front
players on the defensive line. And then I am excited.
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I know, rush through for darn near five hundred yards
last week, but I am excited for Jackson Darnead. Look,
let's be exciting. Let's let's be an exciting team. And
I am excited to see at least the second half
of the season. We're going to see, you know, Malik
neighbors out there with Jackson Dart and that's gonna be
kind of fun to watch. They got to get the
left tackle back man they miss him, Andrew Thomas. Get
him back and healthy and rocking and rolling. So we'll
see what happens with the New York Giants. So there's
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your zher and two teams. Let's take a quick break,
we'll come back. We'll look at some of these two
and oh teams that we were believing it or maybe
we have some questions about right after this. All right, buck,
let's rip through these two and oh teams and I'll
just ask you for one of each. So I'll give
you the two and O team, the one you're most
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confident in, and then the one that you're you're questioning here.
So if we go to the AFC, you got the Colts,
the Chargers, the Bills, the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Hard to believe those are the those are the only
four undefeated teams, and obviously the Bengals with the Joe
Burrow situation, the Colts on the Daniel Jones Indiana Jones
ride that they're having a lot of fun on. And
then you've got I think the Bills and the Chargers
wouldn't be as much of a surprise as maybe those
other two considering the circumstances with Burrow.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
No, they wouldn't. I'm gonna go with your team. I'm
gonna go with the Chargers in terms of what I
believe in and the ones that look their contentents when
I look at them. DJ it is it is a
slow death that Jim Harbo has always orchestrated for every
team that he's ever coached USD, Stanford Niners, Michigan Charge.
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It is this death match where they almost put you
in the sleeper hole right and you're flopping the arm
up and you're waiting for the other team to go
to sleep, and it twenty to nine went over the Raiders. Look, man,
that score looks one way, but it's almost like they
had Pete Carroll just choked up, and you're just waiting,
like Pete, how long? How long before we put you out?
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That's what the just do. And the fact that they've
kind of found some explosives. Gwyn Johnson, you have lat
McConkie Keenan Allen, the explosive of us in the passing attack,
and we know they're gonna finally get the running game right,
they're there, But I'm gonna tell you I don't believe
it because of the defense. The defense doesn't let the
ball flower the head. They match routes well, they play
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zone defense, they can do it rushing for dropping seven.
It's just a well ballance team. And that's why I
believe they're going. Yeah, and they know who they are.
And the longer you have the leadership in place, when
you have clear direction, know who you are and what
you are, the better they're going to get a great example.
So Khalil Mack gets hurt, who do they bring in?
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They brought in Cleveland Ferrell. So why him?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Because if you look at the Baltimore teams that Joe
Hortiz was around, if you look at the teams that
Jim Harbaugh has always coached, their edge guys are physical
edge setters.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You look at the charters.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Now you've got Khalil Mack on Bud Dupree is a
bullying on one's to is a bully on the other side.
And now you bring in Cleveland Ferrell. So they're not
looking for little fastballs to throw off the edge. They're
looking for power edge setting guys who are gonna collapse
a pocket a little bit as a rusher, but you're
gonna set a firm edge in the run game because
now we can play with those safeties in the parking
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lot because we don't have soft edges. You're not going
to get to us that way. So they know exactly
what they're doing, who they are, and what they're about.
And I played FIFA man many many years ago, but
I played with my boys when they were young, and
I got started to get into it, and I remember
seeing the like you do the different defensive stuff, and
it was like park the Bus I think was the
name of it, which was they just like you to
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pull your whole defense pulls back und so you're you just, yeah,
protecting the goal.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
We played possession, Yeah, a possession. We're gonna hold that's
what we're doing. We're gonna hold on to it. It's
gonna frustrate you. These games are going to be twenty
to nine, they're gonna be like man, but I just
feel like we did. But it just is the slow Yeah,
that's why I say it's the sleeper hole. Is we
lock you up? Yep, you know that's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I mean, no, yeah, so I'm look, I don't think that.
I don't think the Bills are going anywhere, you know,
coming off of a game on we just saw them
against the Dolphins here, so they're an undefeated team. So
you get the Bills the Chargers. I'm a little bit
you know how about this. This is the question between
the Colts and the Bengals. Considering you've got Browning and
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Daniel Jones. I know that all the other star power
they've got on Cincinnati, but I think I have to
lean towards Indianapolis being more confident.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
They're way more confident in Indianapolis. And the reason why
I'm more confident is this is finally Chris Ballad being
able to put it together. We have talked about the
last two years. We talked about their drafting process and
how they've gone and got all the freaks, all the
explosive athletes. May not be refined as players, but they're
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going to developed it well. Now on offense, you have
someone that you can trust to get the ball to
those guys. And DJ. As much as we talk about
the NFL and the schemes x's and o's versus Jimmy
and Joes, and I have more explosive athletes. I get
the ball to them a bunch of times. At some point,
my explosive players are gonna make place. I eat Jonathan Taylor, downs,
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Tyler Warren, all those guys they do. Then defensively, lou
and Aromo being able to take all these dynamic, explosive
guys and put them together in a defense that is man.
It's like a chameleon. There's so many different things that
you see. To me, they're built the right way, which
is why as much as I would love to discount
them as a due to my affiliation with the Jags. Yeah,
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I'm a little nervous. I'm a little nervous that they're back. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
No, I think you direct to be a little nervous there.
Let's get over to the NFC. We look at the
teams here. I want you to give me one team
that you are all in on. Another team. Maybe you
have some concerns about the two and O teams Packers, Niners, Eagles, Bucks, Cardinals, Rams.
Those are your undefeated teams in the NFC. Who are
you most confident in those undefeated teams?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Go, Pack Go. I'm confident in the Packers all the way.
Like I'm even digging out my old T shirts from
my time there. They are They're built to last man
and it's funny Michael Parson's going there. The impact his
arrival has had on their defense has been really eye opening.
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The fact that he has been able to put other
guys in favorable matchups for Sean Gary, you see Lucas Vans,
you see Eddrin Cooper, what their presence upfront has done
for the back end in Jeff Affley's defense. All of that,
the confidence that they have when it comes to closing
out games because this defense is relentless, plays at a
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high effort. They can get after and then offensively said this,
this team can operate with two straws during the drink,
have the ability to let Josh Jacobs stir to drink
with the running game, or they can lean into Jordan Love.
As these receivers get comfortable. To me, they have more
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pass to victory. They look to other teams in the
league because I think they can get it done offenousively defensively,
they can do it running, passing, whatever it is. They
have a bunch of ways to get to the winner circle.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, and I guess I wouldn't just lean towards the
team that won the Super Bowl last year with Philly,
and I think that's where we're headed as a collision
course between those two teams. That's what it feels like
at this point in time through a couple of weeks.
But with Philly, I think that little audio clip said
everything last week. Yeah, of like you're going to brag
about yards we have with the set and the other
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like we're just about winning games, man, Like we won
the game.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Whatever we got to do to win the game, we're
gonna win the game.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And that, to me is that's dangerous when you get
a team that doesn't play well and I don't think
they did really at all in that game offensively, they
won a game and they find a way to do it.
And guess what, when it starts clicking, they're gonna start
blowing people out. But in the meantime, they just find
a way to get it done and win ball games.
That to me is a that's a sign of a
team that's mature.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
What's scary about the Philadelphia Eagles is that so the
same things that you talk about with Jim Harbard and stuff,
and how they've kind of figured out who they are
to me when I look at the Eagles, I look
at the vintage New England Patriots, not in terms of
stylistically but in terms of them understanding and mastering the
art of winning. Mastering the art of winning is what
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do we need to do today to win the game,
And having a bunch of players was selfless enough to
be able to do that. So that video exchange that
you talk about with Jalen and Chris Jones, when the
quarterback is on board, hey man, I could care less
about my numbers. I'm about winning. Well, what does that mean?
He's not arguing with the court and he's like, hey man,
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we need to a couple more passes this, and that
they've seemingly got everyone on board that the only thing
that matters for us is winning. And when they've paid
everybody and people aren't playing for contracts, it allows you
to get more of that. They're scary because they figured
that out, and as a young team figured out early
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it had you have an opportunity to have a dynastic
run where you're always in the conversation as the last
team standing.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I have no doubt.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
All right, how about a team that you're worried about?
There of those undefeated teams. Uh, it's Packers, Niners, Eagles, Bucks, Cardinals, Rams.
So between the Niners, the Bucks, Cardinals, Rams, who would
you say, you're not necessarily buying the two and oh start.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
So here's the funny thing, DJ, I really like all
those teams that have gotten out to the fast starts.
The team that I point out that's a little different
than the others, I would say the Cardinals. And the
only reason I would point out the Cardinals is because
the unknown, like, they're not the two teams that they
should have beaten. And the unknown part is is they
take Can they take their game up a notch when
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it's time to step into the ring with the heavyweights
and calla Murray in particular, take his game, uts take
take his game up to the point where he can
be the guy that leads his team in a shootout
within us about the quarterback knocking off the other quarterback.
That is the only reason why I can't fully endorse
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him as the team. I won't say that he's the weekly,
but he's the biggest question and he'd be the difference
maker when we get to those gotta have it moments
in games.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I would just say the Niners, just because the
injury bug just seems to always strike these guys, man,
just for where some of their key players are in
their career or the track record just staying healthy is.
It's legitimately a concern of mine. So that's why I
would say of these teams, the Niners would concern me
the most. So there you have it, Buck, there's kind
of the look at the teams that are off to
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the hot and not so hot starts what we think
about their future here as we go forward, and really
looking forward to a great slate of games this weekend.
If I was going to give you one game, I'm
looking four two over any other, I would say Rams
Eagles that that is going to be a physical fight.
I can't wait to see what that looks like. And
then of course we get to Monday Night Lions Ravens.
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That's gonna be a good one as well. That is
always a good one. Those two teams square off. Man,
It's been some fun games to watch.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, so a good slate of games, cowed slate man,
just so so.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
But we will be back next week on a Monday
with Baldi where we can go and break down everything
that we've seen on the weekend. Until then, hope you
guys have a great weekend yourself. We'll see it back
here on. Move the sticks
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to move the sticks? DJ, Buck with you? Buck?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
How are you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey? Go on? Man? Coming up on the weekend. It's
been a great football week Got another look football weekend.
This should have some very interesting and compelling games. And DJ,
we've reached a point of the season, must win week,
so we must win games. Yeah, we're gonna have it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Those oh and three stats are not great, man, When
you start oh and three, not a lot of love there.
So oh and two starts Since nineteen ninety twenty five
or sorry, thirty five of the two hundred and eighty
eight teams to start oh and two made the playoffs.
That's twelve point two percent after an oh and two start.
Say it is a chance, Yeah, you got a shot there.
Last year the Broncos, Ravens, and Rams all pulled it off.
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Only four of one hundred and sixty five teams to
start oh and three, however, I've made the playoffs. That
is two point four percent. And no team has ever
won the Super Bowl after starting oh and three?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh Buck, have you.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Been on any any teams you remember where it started
out kind of rough and you're just sitting here going like,
oh gosh, we might just lost the whole season in
the first two three games.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, not not that. Ruugh the most dire situation that
I've been in. Uh in Jacksonville we were three and six,
and but we ended up nine and seven. So I
turned it around. Look at the glass at pool. Hey,
we always can do it, no matter what, we can
turn this thing around. So that's what some of the
fans need to do. We can turn this thing around.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, well, well, here's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna
give you some I'm gonna give you the teams here,
the oh and two teams, and I'm going to tell
you who we should be most excited or confident about
that the rebound is going to take place here. So
I'm going to list them off here. We've got Houston,
We've got Kansas City, We've got Tennessee. We've got the
New York Jets. We have the Cleveland Browns and the
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Miami Dolphins. That's in the AFC. So let's start first
of all there. Then we'll go to the NFC. So Houston,
Kansas City, Tennessee, the Jets, Cleveland, Miami. Let's uh, let's start.
Let's go with the let's go with a little let's
go with the percentage. So I want you to give
me your confidence percentage that this thing can get turned around,
and we'll start with the Houston Texans. Uh, seventy five percent.
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I believe they Oh, oh you're confident then huh Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think the division plays to this strep even though
in an APIs rent out to two and zero, there's
a sense that they can come back to the pack.
Jacksonville that won and won Tennessee, you're the text. You
won a division the last two years. You kind of
know what it is. You have all those games ahead
of you, so you can make up ground. This defense
still has the pieces to be lights out and if physicality,
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the toughness, and the Demico Ryans factor gives them a
chance on offense, whether or not they become the explosive
outfit and Demiko Rians may just have to go like
they just don't lose the game. We can be going
defense to win it. That's why I'm confident the division
and their defense gives them a chance to get back
on trick. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I mean, look, the only thing about the division is
I think that INDI is better than we thought they
were going to be, So that doesn't look so great.
I would love to give you this answer after this
week when they play your Jacksonville Jaguars, to see what
that looks like. But in their defense, they've played two
good teams, two playoff teams, the Rams and the Bucks.
They've been in both these games all the way down
to the end. So that should give you confidence. You know,
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I'll double up. I'll go seventy five with you, just
kind of here in the argument. Here in the case,
I love the defense so much that being said, the
twenty five percent doubt is based one hundred percent on
the offensive line. For me, I'm not worried about c. J.
Stroud as much as I'm worried about that offensive line.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean, this is a scary deal. They haven't been
good upfront, they've been inconsistent, and the scheme hasn't quite
messed with the quarterback. Those things didn't come play. But
until that happens, I'm telling man, if you just don't
give it away, we get hangs. Because think about it,
they didn't play great against Tampa. They're right there. I
mean the two games they lost, they've been there because
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the defense is solid, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
This is the one I think people are probably the
most surprised by the Kansas City Chiefs sitting here and
going too.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Uh, let's go sixty percent. And the sixty percent is
a bit of a stretch just due to the championship pedigree.
It's the pedigree and Pat Mahomes to the two piece.
They've been in this situation. They understand how to get
to the winter Circle. If they're close, they'll find a
way to get in. If they're close, they have Pat
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Mahomes who can put on the cape and figure out
a way to wield them in. Outside of that, there
are a lot of questions. Offencially, they don't have enough playmakers.
They haven't been able to create it. The backfield is pedestrian.
We talked about all the alliteration, a lot of PE's
and some of those PE's don't go in their way.
They need to find a way to run the ball
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so they can find a way to create those big plays.
Haven't been able to do it. And then Spags is
a great defensive coordinator, but they are more of a
selective stop team more so than a shut them down team,
and when your offense is an explosive, it's hard to
rely on the defense. That's likely.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, I don't want to panic here. I mean I
don't think they've played well e they're missing those receivers.
That's a big part of the problem here. My concern
is almost more with who they're playing versus who they are.
I mean, the schedule's tough. They've got Detroit coming up,
They've got Baltimore coming up inside the division. You still
got to get Denver twice, Vegas twice or you know,
Vegas is gonna be competitive, competitive, You've got a road
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trip to Buffalo. All of a sudden, Indie looks like
that's not not a cakewalk. The Cowboys are going to
score points. You've got Houston, I mean, not an easy run, man.
And you're starting out a little cold here this this
next two weeks. And somehow they if they could, somehow,
you know, win at the Giants this week, which is
very doable. Then you come back, you get the Ravens
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at home. That's the that to me is the barometer there.
If you could, if you they could win their next
two games, we got I know, the Ravens are outstanding,
but that is in Kansas City. If they can somehow
win that game, now you're two and two. I think
they're fine, but I think there's a very real chance
they're looking at being a one in three team, and
that creates some doubts. So I'm gonna I'm gonna again,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna echo your sixty and say that's
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a fair number. I think you got to go better
than fifty percent with the quarterback and the head coach.
But Buck, they don't have a running back that excites me.
They can't get the ball vertically down the field at all,
and I know that's part of the receiver issue. And defensively,
I don't know that there is dominant is. I think
they look tired. They've played a lot of football over
the last five years.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But DJ, this is one from the Good Book where
we're talking about faith. We're talking about thing's unseen. We're
hoping for things that we haven't seen from them. This
is what it is. We haven't seen it, but we're
faithful that the quarterback, the pedigree gives them a chance.
But there's not a lot of tangible evidence that would
tell through two weeks get it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Turned if you if you divorced yourself from the helmet
and the uniform and just saw I'm just evaluating that
football team. Not great, No, there's not a lot, but
we're gonna stick with it. All right, we can go
faster through the rest of these here, Tennessee. Give me
a number on them. I'm at that's who they are.
That's that's a ten chance of them running it around.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, that's what it is. It was from zero to
ten for me. They're not good enough team. They got
a young quarterback, they're just not ready. It's not many
young guys, man, DK. Let's get him rolling. Let's get
these young whiteouts in the mix. Let's just turn Let's
just go all young. The problem that you have, coach,
are the coach and the personnel people on the same
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timeline when it comes to getting it. That's what makes
it hard, because if we're on the same timeline, DJ,
then we can go all day on playing the young
guys in let's progress over the season to get ready
for twenty twenty six. I think it's long rage playing.
If that's what we're gonna do, we'll see if they're
on the same page.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Well, I think that's a Hey, we need to play
the young guys. Let's get these guys up and running,
like well, hey, well, do I have assurances I'm gonna
be back. No, But I'm just telling you it's in
your interest to play the young guys. Like I can't.
I can't make any promises, but let's let's evaluate the
young part of our roster.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
The Jets.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'll go maybe a little bit higher there because I
think the defense, you know, can can still be better
than they've been, and you know, the run game and
we'll see the adjustment fields back healthy. I'm gonna put
them at a twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Buck yeahy twenty five percent. Look, man, they are talented.
I mean, I know they've kind of been the team
where we're talking about the talent for so long, but
they're talented enough to do it. Is Ken Aaron Glynn
find a way to put it together. They need the
run a game to be a big part of it
because the running game will compliment them in terms of
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how they want to play on defense.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But until we get the running game up and going,
that's what it is. It's reasonable Cleveland. I'll go ten.
I'm I think ten's as low as I'm not not too.
You're gonna go zero. Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The quarterback, man, the quarterback, the quarterbacks?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
When are you turning? When are you turning that over
to Dylan Gabriel?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Man? Now, I mean, like to me, they should have
played the young guys from the jump, like, who would
we fooling put the young guys in? Let's see what
it is like. Man, those guys know they don't have
a reasonable chance. And I like Joe Flacco, but DJ,
everybody that's forty years old is not meant to play
the position. And if you can't protect themselves, you can't move.
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Man in today's game, you're limited. He's a sitting duck
in the pocket. They need to flip it over. Maybe
they can't catch a spark. If I would do it,
but it's not gonna happen to put one of those
junk guys in.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So my uh, if I was it was my office
in there, buck, this is a I would be like
an elementary school teacher. If I was sitting there in
the GM job, I would have somebody render a huge
bus and I would have and put all these little
seats on the bus and I go, I go. Guys
like philosophica. This year, this is the twenty twenty six
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Cleveland Browns bus. We're going to find out who these
little we have little images everybody who gets to be
on that bus next year. That's our goal is to
figure out who's on that bus for next year and
starting places.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, exactly what's a little player?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Hey, these old guy not not going to be on
next year's bus, So why are we playing him. Let's
play the guys who have a chance to be on
this group going forward for the next time. That we're
a good football team. So I think that's that's pretty
easy to understand. Miami not confident there, Buck, I'll go
eight percent. I don't know, I don't I don't love
what's going on. Their offensive line is very good. It's
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just the whole thing's stale.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It man, it is so crazy. A team that was
celebrated for their opfensive ingenuity, their creativity, the explosiveness, all
that this team doesn't have a chance. That they're gone.
I think they've not only lost confident, it's in themselves.
You have the point where you're hoping the head coach
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can answer some of the problems that are coming up.
But look, Man, I just don't know where they go
from here. DJ, like they can talk about a new
culture in those things, but it just doesn't look right.
And when it doesn't look right, it just it tends
not to turn around. So we'll see. They're talented. I
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just know if they can get to turn around. Done.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
All right, Let's get over to the NFC. The over
teams on the NFC side, we go to that list. Here,
we've got Carolina, New Orleans, Chicago, and the Giants. I
think there's more optimism and hope with some of these
AFC teams versus some of these NFC teams.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, I think that said, the reality kind of hits
us really hard in the NFC in terms of how
ball we have to go. Let's start with Carolina Panthers.
I saw them up close and personal, DJ. They've done
a really good job of trying to put together the
pieces in the off season. Far behind the people in
the division, the top teams in the division. When I
think about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and even the Atlanta
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Falcons when I look at them, just just a noticeable
difference talent and all of that. They can close to get.
But I don't think they can get in the mix.
I'll give them a fifteen to twenty percent chance.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I'm gonna go to eight percent on that one. I
just don't think they have enough firepower. Man, I don't
think they have enough firepower. But in some ways, this
year will be a success if Bryce Young leans one
way or the other, like if he see mentally got
to know that he's going to figure it out or
he's not, and then you can move on. But I
think that's going to be how this season is determined
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to be a success or not. The New Orleans Saints,
I don't think either one of us had high expectations there.
To be honest with you, I think they've actually been
more competitive than I thought they would be.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I would say that too. I would say the Spencer
Ratler situation has been a bit of a surprise to me,
the way that they've been able to compete. They got
a bunch of prideful veterans that are helping them to
stay uploat. Look, I don't think they're serious contender, but
I think they're competitive. I think Kevin Moore can look
at his team. If they get the six seven wins,
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I would think they would be a success.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
For him as his first year first year coach. Well,
I mean they're going to be going four. They're at
Seattle next and then they're at Buffalo, so they're going
to start out on four. And then then you get
the Giants in New England Chicago like they've got a chance
to try and you know, get some wings in there.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, get some ones in there.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
But I'm not I mean, I'll go with that ten percent,
but they're not going to be a playoff team Chicago.
I think to me, I thought it was better offensively,
at least with with Caleb second week versus the first week.
He went back through all that stuff. He played on schedule,
within the structure. I thought the first half, even early
into the second half, you saw him make some nice rows.
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I thought he got hit a little bit after that,
I thought there were some bodies around his feet and
then you start seeing the ball spray around a little bit.
So I only tackles are very good for all to
talk about them fixing their interior and the tackles are
not good.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
So there's still issues there.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
But I do believe in Ben Johnson, and I do
believe Caleb's going to get better as we go through
and they have. They have enough talent on defense to
be better than what they showed against Detroit. So I
might put them of the NFC. They're the They're the
top contender of these zero to two teams. For me,
I'll put them at like thirty percent that they can
get this thing right.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I think so, and I think what has happened. Unfortunately
for the Bears, they had ridiculous expectations coming into the season.
Some of that is what Ben Johnson did in Detroit
and believe believing that he could take the magic wand
sprinkle the pixie dust over the Bears and they were
going to be like the version of the Detroit lines
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and that's just not true. But I believe in the
second half of the season, when their confidence comes together,
when they begin to believe and trust in all the systems,
this can be a team that plays much better down
the stretch. Is a reasonable thing, that can be a
very competitieam, they're talented enough to be competitive.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, well, this next team is uh.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I feel like has figured out one of our themes
and one of our mottos here on the show, which is,
as a team, it's okay to be bad. It's okay
to be boring. You can't be bad and boring. And
the Giant's actually been kind of fun. It's kind of
fun to watch them against the Dallas Cowboys. So they've
eliminated the boring part of it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That's good. I mean, that's that's that's a big part
of the equation. At least entertain I go there for
three three and a half hours. I want to be entertained,
see some scoring, see the ball flyer around the yard,
look at the league neighbors, you know, have some things
on individual accomplishments that we can go make my fantasy
team look good.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All of those things work, but that division, those teams
forget about. Yeah you go, we go five percent on
that one. Yeah, I go five, I go five. I'm
them t Look, I think they've got some good front
players on the defensive line. And then I am excited.
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I know, rush through for darn near five hundred yards
last week, but I am excited for Jackson Darnead. Look,
let's be exciting. Let's let's be an exciting team. And
I am excited to see at least the second half
of the season. We're going to see, you know, Malik
neighbors out there with Jackson Dart and that's gonna be
kind of fun to watch. They got to get the
left tackle back man they miss him, Andrew Thomas. Get
him back and healthy and rocking and rolling. So we'll
see what happens with the New York Giants. So there's
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your zher and two teams. Let's take a quick break,
we'll come back. We'll look at some of these two
and oh teams that we were believing it or maybe
we have some questions about right after this. All right, buck,
let's rip through these two and oh teams and I'll
just ask you for one of each. So I'll give
you the two and O team, the one you're most
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confident in, and then the one that you're you're questioning here.
So if we go to the AFC, you got the Colts,
the Chargers, the Bills, the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Hard to believe those are the those are the only
four undefeated teams, and obviously the Bengals with the Joe
Burrow situation, the Colts on the Daniel Jones Indiana Jones
ride that they're having a lot of fun on. And
then you've got I think the Bills and the Chargers
wouldn't be as much of a surprise as maybe those
other two considering the circumstances with Burrow.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
No, they wouldn't. I'm gonna go with your team. I'm
gonna go with the Chargers in terms of what I
believe in and the ones that look their contentents when
I look at them. DJ it is it is a
slow death that Jim Harbo has always orchestrated for every
team that he's ever coached USD, Stanford Niners, Michigan Charge.
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It is this death match where they almost put you
in the sleeper hole right and you're flopping the arm
up and you're waiting for the other team to go
to sleep, and it twenty to nine went over the Raiders. Look, man,
that score looks one way, but it's almost like they
had Pete Carroll just choked up, and you're just waiting,
like Pete, how long? How long before we put you out?
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That's what the just do. And the fact that they've
kind of found some explosives. Gwyn Johnson, you have lat
McConkie Keenan Allen, the explosive of us in the passing attack,
and we know they're gonna finally get the running game right,
they're there, But I'm gonna tell you I don't believe
it because of the defense. The defense doesn't let the
ball flower the head. They match routes well, they play
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zone defense, they can do it rushing for dropping seven.
It's just a well ballance team. And that's why I
believe they're going. Yeah, and they know who they are.
And the longer you have the leadership in place, when
you have clear direction, know who you are and what
you are, the better they're going to get a great example.
So Khalil Mack gets hurt, who do they bring in?
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They brought in Cleveland Ferrell. So why him?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Because if you look at the Baltimore teams that Joe
Hortiz was around, if you look at the teams that
Jim Harbaugh has always coached, their edge guys are physical
edge setters.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You look at the charters.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Now you've got Khalil Mack on Bud Dupree is a
bullying on one's to is a bully on the other side.
And now you bring in Cleveland Ferrell. So they're not
looking for little fastballs to throw off the edge. They're
looking for power edge setting guys who are gonna collapse
a pocket a little bit as a rusher, but you're
gonna set a firm edge in the run game because
now we can play with those safeties in the parking
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lot because we don't have soft edges. You're not going
to get to us that way. So they know exactly
what they're doing, who they are, and what they're about.
And I played FIFA man many many years ago, but
I played with my boys when they were young, and
I got started to get into it, and I remember
seeing the like you do the different defensive stuff, and
it was like park the Bus I think was the
name of it, which was they just like you to
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pull your whole defense pulls back und so you're you just, yeah,
protecting the goal.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
We played possession, Yeah, a possession. We're gonna hold that's
what we're doing. We're gonna hold on to it. It's
gonna frustrate you. These games are going to be twenty
to nine, they're gonna be like man, but I just
feel like we did. But it just is the slow Yeah,
that's why I say it's the sleeper hole. Is we
lock you up? Yep, you know that's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I mean, no, yeah, so I'm look, I don't think that.
I don't think the Bills are going anywhere, you know,
coming off of a game on we just saw them
against the Dolphins here, so they're an undefeated team. So
you get the Bills the Chargers. I'm a little bit
you know how about this. This is the question between
the Colts and the Bengals. Considering you've got Browning and
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Daniel Jones. I know that all the other star power
they've got on Cincinnati, but I think I have to
lean towards Indianapolis being more confident.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
They're way more confident in Indianapolis. And the reason why
I'm more confident is this is finally Chris Ballad being
able to put it together. We have talked about the
last two years. We talked about their drafting process and
how they've gone and got all the freaks, all the
explosive athletes. May not be refined as players, but they're
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going to developed it well. Now on offense, you have
someone that you can trust to get the ball to
those guys. And DJ. As much as we talk about
the NFL and the schemes x's and o's versus Jimmy
and Joes, and I have more explosive athletes. I get
the ball to them a bunch of times. At some point,
my explosive players are gonna make place. I eat Jonathan Taylor, downs,
(21:19):
Tyler Warren, all those guys they do. Then defensively, lou
and Aromo being able to take all these dynamic, explosive
guys and put them together in a defense that is man.
It's like a chameleon. There's so many different things that
you see. To me, they're built the right way, which
is why as much as I would love to discount
them as a due to my affiliation with the Jags. Yeah,
(21:42):
I'm a little nervous. I'm a little nervous that they're back. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
No, I think you direct to be a little nervous there.
Let's get over to the NFC. We look at the
teams here. I want you to give me one team
that you are all in on. Another team. Maybe you
have some concerns about the two and O teams Packers, Niners, Eagles, Bucks, Cardinals, Rams.
Those are your undefeated teams in the NFC. Who are
you most confident in those undefeated teams?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Go, Pack Go. I'm confident in the Packers all the way.
Like I'm even digging out my old T shirts from
my time there. They are They're built to last man
and it's funny Michael Parson's going there. The impact his
arrival has had on their defense has been really eye opening.
(22:30):
The fact that he has been able to put other
guys in favorable matchups for Sean Gary, you see Lucas Vans,
you see Eddrin Cooper, what their presence upfront has done
for the back end in Jeff Affley's defense. All of that,
the confidence that they have when it comes to closing
out games because this defense is relentless, plays at a
(22:50):
high effort. They can get after and then offensively said this,
this team can operate with two straws during the drink,
have the ability to let Josh Jacobs stir to drink
with the running game, or they can lean into Jordan Love.
As these receivers get comfortable. To me, they have more
(23:11):
pass to victory. They look to other teams in the
league because I think they can get it done offenousively defensively,
they can do it running, passing, whatever it is. They
have a bunch of ways to get to the winner circle.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, and I guess I wouldn't just lean towards the
team that won the Super Bowl last year with Philly,
and I think that's where we're headed as a collision
course between those two teams. That's what it feels like
at this point in time through a couple of weeks.
But with Philly, I think that little audio clip said
everything last week. Yeah, of like you're going to brag
about yards we have with the set and the other
(23:43):
like we're just about winning games, man, Like we won
the game.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Whatever we got to do to win the game, we're
gonna win the game.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And that, to me is that's dangerous when you get
a team that doesn't play well and I don't think
they did really at all in that game offensively, they
won a game and they find a way to do it.
And guess what, when it starts clicking, they're gonna start
blowing people out. But in the meantime, they just find
a way to get it done and win ball games.
That to me is a that's a sign of a
team that's mature.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
What's scary about the Philadelphia Eagles is that so the
same things that you talk about with Jim Harbard and stuff,
and how they've kind of figured out who they are
to me when I look at the Eagles, I look
at the vintage New England Patriots, not in terms of
stylistically but in terms of them understanding and mastering the
art of winning. Mastering the art of winning is what
(24:30):
do we need to do today to win the game,
And having a bunch of players was selfless enough to
be able to do that. So that video exchange that
you talk about with Jalen and Chris Jones, when the
quarterback is on board, hey man, I could care less
about my numbers. I'm about winning. Well, what does that mean?
He's not arguing with the court and he's like, hey man,
(24:51):
we need to a couple more passes this, and that
they've seemingly got everyone on board that the only thing
that matters for us is winning. And when they've paid
everybody and people aren't playing for contracts, it allows you
to get more of that. They're scary because they figured
that out, and as a young team figured out early
(25:12):
it had you have an opportunity to have a dynastic
run where you're always in the conversation as the last
team standing.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I have no doubt.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
All right, how about a team that you're worried about?
There of those undefeated teams. Uh, it's Packers, Niners, Eagles, Bucks, Cardinals, Rams.
So between the Niners, the Bucks, Cardinals, Rams, who would
you say, you're not necessarily buying the two and oh start.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
So here's the funny thing, DJ, I really like all
those teams that have gotten out to the fast starts.
The team that I point out that's a little different
than the others, I would say the Cardinals. And the
only reason I would point out the Cardinals is because
the unknown, like, they're not the two teams that they
should have beaten. And the unknown part is is they
take Can they take their game up a notch when
(25:56):
it's time to step into the ring with the heavyweights
and calla Murray in particular, take his game, uts take
take his game up to the point where he can
be the guy that leads his team in a shootout
within us about the quarterback knocking off the other quarterback.
That is the only reason why I can't fully endorse
(26:17):
him as the team. I won't say that he's the weekly,
but he's the biggest question and he'd be the difference
maker when we get to those gotta have it moments
in games.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I would just say the Niners, just because the
injury bug just seems to always strike these guys, man,
just for where some of their key players are in
their career or the track record just staying healthy is.
It's legitimately a concern of mine. So that's why I
would say of these teams, the Niners would concern me
the most. So there you have it, Buck, there's kind
of the look at the teams that are off to
(26:49):
the hot and not so hot starts what we think
about their future here as we go forward, and really
looking forward to a great slate of games this weekend.
If I was going to give you one game, I'm
looking four two over any other, I would say Rams
Eagles that that is going to be a physical fight.
I can't wait to see what that looks like. And
then of course we get to Monday Night Lions Ravens.
(27:11):
That's gonna be a good one as well. That is
always a good one. Those two teams square off. Man,
It's been some fun games to watch.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, so a good slate of games, cowed slate man,
just so so.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
But we will be back next week on a Monday
with Baldi where we can go and break down everything
that we've seen on the weekend. Until then, hope you
guys have a great weekend yourself. We'll see it back
here on. Move the sticks
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