July 10, 2025 • 37 mins
On this episode of Move the Sticks, Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks are joined by Rhett Lewis to break down his biggest takeaways from the Manning Passing Academy, an annual camp that gives college quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, and tight ends a chance to sharpen their skills ahead of the 2025 season. Rhett breaks down his observations on the most notable college QBs who participated and highlight who stood out.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky
and look who it is. It's our good friend Rhett
who's joined the show. America is back.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Let's go, let's go still ride in the high July
fourth baby.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, how long after? How long? By the way, today
we're going to hit on the Manning camp where Brett
was And we do this every year. But how long
after you got back from Thibodau before you stop sweating? Now?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Right into the right, right into the fourth of July picnic,
still with a nice glisten Yeah, just just glistening.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You do a way do you weigh in way out
and out of that camp.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Years?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
But I love that heat, like I I like.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's like a warm embrace for activity.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I like, I like I like sweat that like I
like working out. Yeah, Buck, there's no way around every
day just like walking around you don't nobody enjoys that.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Such a it's just such a hard just a horrid deal.
It's hot, it's muggy, the bugs come on.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
You need that humidity, but you need a little bit
of that rather that than like that that drive Phoenix
heat at hundred and ten.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Guess what we don't We don't live in Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
We paid a California tax.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, we get to California right now. We California. Whether
over eighty.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm like, whoa, whoa, WHOA.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Didn't sign up for this. I signed it for seventy
eight's that's true. That's true for those who don't know,
like golf heat by the way, like the golf humidity.
Like here, I'll give you the two the two adjustments
I had to make as a kid whorew up in
San Diego going to going to college in Monroe, Louisiana
for for two years or year and a half. The
first the first one was this I remember that, well,
(01:58):
there's three. First of all, it was like, why are
we practicing at seven o'clock in the morning? At seven
o'clock at night? What are we doing? Do you want that?
That was the first thing. The second thing was we'd
be walking out towards practice and there was just all
these aerosol cans like just lined up, and I just
remember thinking, like, I guess like sunscreen or something like
you know, I put some sunscreen onto my dorm. I'm fine.
(02:21):
And then and then I came back in. I'm like, hey,
why does look like I have chicken pox. They're like, yeah,
the mosquitos, you dummy, that's what the freaking space were
on the way out to practice. So that was my
second thing. And then the third thing, and Buck, I
know you you'll this is same. I'm sure it's same
in Carolinas. But like I remember parking. We were going
to like a store, like a clothing store or something,
(02:44):
with like four or five of us, and we parked
and we're, you know, I don't know, maybe seventy five
hundred feet from the store, and it just started to sprinkle,
like just the tiniest sprinkle, and these guys like freaking
Carl Lewis who say bolt like they take off sprinting
for the store, and I'm like, guys, it's a little
doh my gosh, it just went. I am just I'm like, yeah,
(03:09):
that was my So those are my three adjustments.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
We had one of those, by the way, we got
rained out. One practice got rained out. It was the
day two, afternoon, number two practice of the day, which
was actually.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Kind of nice. It was kind of nice.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, we got all.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
The workouts in for the college quarterbacks that were there, which.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Is alright, well, this is gonna get us to this
show today and I'll start us off. It is time
for Hot or Not, brought to you by with Sabby
Hot Cloud Storage. We've talked about the heat, so we've
handled that part of it. Rhett. For those that don't know,
just give the thirty thousand foot view of what this
camp is and how it's growing over the years.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
YEP started nineteen ninety six two Lane University. I was
in eighth grade and went to the camp as a camper,
kept going back all the way through my senior year.
I was invited to come back, you know by Archie
in the in the staff when I was playing in
Indiana and have been coming back on staff ever since.
This was the twenty ninth year of the camp. I've
now been to twenty seven of the twenty nine, so
(04:08):
missed two of them. And it was actually DJ where
we first met in person, was down at the Manning camp.
When you refuse to let your entire team get equal
playing times when they in the game, no we did not.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So it's about.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I'd like to play quarterback? Yeah, yeah, so what I mean,
but you're.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, this guy's playing, right, Yeah, so you were you
were the reason that that Archie was getting all the
calls from the parents and like.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
My kid didn't play.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, get all this money for this camp. Well that's
what the individual drills are for, right.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Right, Yeah, And so fifteen hundred campers this time, biggest
camp yet had I think it was. The final number
was forty eight college quarterbacks on staff and then about
another hundred or so additional staffers, high school coaches from
around the country. A bunch of NFL guys ended up
showing up just to sometimes their kids are campers and
(05:02):
they kind of hang around a little bit, which is
always always really fun to see. What The distinguished guest
of this camp though, was John Gruden, who was just
an absolute firecracker of of just passion for ball in
you know, ninety five degree heat and hundred percent humidity
down in Thibodeau.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So that was cool.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's four days, two full days, two half days of
just NonStop ball man, and it's it's a chance for
you to pour into the kids, but to also receive
a lot of value to you know, as a staff member,
as a high school coach.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Is a college quarterback. It's really full service.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I got to ask you, Ritt, how, yeah, do the
participants to counselors, how much do they revere having the
mannings available?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Like?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
How how much are they hanging on every word when
those guys get in front of room, Payton and Elick.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Well looking, you guys know this because it's it ends
up being a question to a handful of guys that
end up coming through our doors in the draft process
because and you always get just a little bit of
a different answer, like somebody takes a little bit something,
you know, a little something different from each each time
that they get to interact with Eli and Peyton and
(06:15):
with Cooper and with Archie and with everybody that's down there.
I think, uh, just understanding, like your coaches tell you,
and you have a sense of.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
What you need to do right to be the.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Best, but to hear it from the best, to hear
exactly what their process was, I think it resonates just
a little bit differently, right when you understand what Peyton
was doing to prepare, when you understand how Eli, you know,
managed to be the face of a franchise in New
York for the entirety of his career and you understand,
(06:48):
start to understand all that goes into that. I think
it just sinks in a little bit more. And so
I would say it is it is revered, like there's
no zero to ten on it. Like it is it
is up there, and they definitely take advantage of those opportunities,
which is really deep.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's a good way of explaining all that. So there's
kind of like the thirty thousand foot view of the
camp that was this week's Hot or Not segment brought
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at Withsabi dot com. So this is the good stuff
we're looking forward to. RTT is you get a chance
to be around these college quarterbacks, which is going to
be who we're talking about in the spring and in
(07:27):
the springs to come with the with the NFL Draft
ahead of us. So I guess give us an idea
of some of the some of the big time names
that were there, and then we get in to the takeaways.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Sure, sure, so you know really excited, you know this
year to see a bunch of these guys, A couple
of them. I'm going to see my work for Big
Ten Network. Mark Ronowski from Iowa. I'm sure I'm going
to see in the Big Ten Luke Altmeyer from Illinois.
Illinois's top twenty five team this year playoff aspirations. So
it was excited to see those two guys selfishly for
those reasons. And then you had like, you know, the
(08:01):
guys that could be the top five, six, seven quarterbacks
in the country this year. John Matteer from Oklahoma, Leonora
Sellers from South Carolina, kde Klubnick from Clemson, Sam Levitt
from Arizona State, Gunner Stockton from Georgia, and of course
the name the namesake, Arch Manning from Texas.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And so start there by the way I'm start there.
All right, let's just do it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Let's start right there, because I think I mentioned this
to you guys, or may have been. It was Almo
with the Insiders last year, right after the camp, and
I was just blown away by how just grounded.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Arches despite all that's happening around him.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
How you know, it was important to him to stay
away from the nil stuff until he got that job,
until he was going to be the starter, which you know,
obviously he is going into this season and his joy
for the game, like his joy and his passion for
being around ball, for being around teammates, for being around
(09:07):
his guys. Like you know, I think when you when
you Weres was there with him last year and they
were like neck and neck, just always couldn't couldn't separate him.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And just like guy enjoys the college experience.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And so when you hear Eli and Payton talk about
why it was important for him to go.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
To Texas, to stay at Texas.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Even though he was going to sit for the better
part of two years, it's because like they wanted him
to like enjoy going to college at Texas, like that
was actually a goal that was actually a priority. And
you can see that man, and it's like, yeah, sure
the weight of the world might be on his shoulders
from externally, but like when you're around him, it sure
doesn't feel like he feels that. So I think he's
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got a great demeanor for being a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Then you get to just watching him and it's like.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It's just it's just different, man, it is, you know,
And I know they've done some work he works with
with David Morris and Quarterback Country. You guys, you know,
we know very well and they've done some really good
work with him too, Like his motion is so compact
and efficient.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And it just popps.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So like they've worked a lot, and this is not
unique to Arts, right, so many of these quarterbacks are
going to be you know, quote unquote closed off. Right,
that front foot is kind of closed off, and so
Arch was leaning at the top of his drop, at
the top of his release point quite a bit. So man,
they've really worked on opening that front foot up and
bringing that rotation through and man, you can see this
(10:31):
ball is just popping like it is alive off his hand,
not like it wasn't before.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
But it's different.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It is different from when I saw him, you know,
coming in as a freshman, even the last year, like
this year, it felt like he is dialed, like his
mechanics are dialed in, and every ball is just it's
just so it's so effortless, like it just comes out
with ease. You know, we said that about a number
of quarterbacks you know that have been at the top
of the class, you know, whether you know, whenever they
(10:58):
end up coming out, and he's certainly guys fits that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Bill.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I gotta I want to follow up on that because
the big thing. Like a lot of times when you
go see a quarterback live, it is to get a
feel for the velocity in those things. And so you
talk about the improvements and how the ball comes out
and how lively it is. You've seen some of the
top quarterbacks like even before then to come out, Like
where does it rain? Do we talk about like plus
arm talent? Are we above average? Like where where would
(11:24):
you put that that that arm arm talent when it
just on a.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Natural throwing Yeah, I mean it's it's, it's it's special.
Like you know, I'm not gonna say he's, uh, he's
Andy Luck over here or anything like that, but like
it's it's it's it's in that conversation like of guys
that I've seen throw it that make it look that good,
you know what I mean. And then like just a
(11:49):
body type like he's just so powerful, like his lower
half is so well built and he maintains like just
some some urgency in his drops and his footwork. I mean,
this is a big athletic kid. He And that's what
I think again, people are going to really start to
understand if they haven't seen it outside of Austin this year,
is that you know he is he is not.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I mean he is more Archie Manning than Peyton and
Eli Manning. Uh and even you know.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He's you know, like his dad, Cooper was a pretty
damn good athlete, you know, went to Old Miss the
receiver before he had this this spinal cord injury. And
so he has got his his grandpa and his dad's athleticism.
And I think that in today's game, he is the
prototype of today's quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Like that's for me.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Like he is he is more like you know, built
physically and then with the arm talent and with the
athleticism like it's it just to check, check check.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That's going to lead me right to the next guy. Then,
because I just finished and I talked about him previously
Lemora's Sellers and watching him and how I'm curious to
see because I'm a big fan of his and I'll
do arch next. I haven't done him yet, but just
comparing those guys physically, hey what do they you know
physically look like build wise and height wise, all those
types of things as well. It's just kind of how
(13:09):
the ball came out of their hand this week.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, So Leonora's Sellers, as you can imagine DJ just
from watching it on tape, but when you see it
in person, it's a strong man. The power is intoxicating
like it is.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It is so fun like it is.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It is definitely like you want to follow him around,
like you just want to watch it, like you want
to hear it, you know, like when his fingers when
that when his fingers come off the ball.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
As that ball starts its rotation, it's like a whip,
like you hear it, and it's I mean, it is
it is.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Really it is different, I'll put it that way, you know,
like it's it's to me, the power coming off of it,
coming out of his hand is even you know, a
step above what you saw from March. But it's a
different type of delivery, Like it's the RPMs are so
wound up in that thing. So and then like I
got to spend a litle time with him, you know,
just to talk to him to kind of understand a
little bit more about who he is. And you know,
(14:04):
he's one of those dudes that you know, will sit there,
look in the eye, we'll ask you what will be
an active participant in the conversation and not just a
yes or no, You know, a type of answer answerer
of questions which a lot of these guys end up
being like he, you know, loved talking about the offense
now with Mike Shula as the play caller, and Mike's brother,
(14:25):
Dave was at the camp and has been at the
camp for a number of years, and so Dave was
telling me just about how they love the kid. I mean,
he talked for about ten minutes about who Lenora Sellers
is before we even talked about what he is as
a player. So I thought that was pretty special. You've
all heard the stories about what he turned down to
stay at South Carolina. But that humbleness like that, that loyalty,
(14:47):
that ability to understand you know what it means, you know,
for him to be there at South Carolina and to
remain there at South Carolina, I think was pretty special
in today's world.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
But by the way, I I just wrote him up
because I just finished and I'd watched him a few
days ago and had to write him up. But I
was curious because I had heard, you know, talking to
dal Loggins, who had been the oc there at South Carolina,
and you know, talking about, yeah, he loves him, and
he was like talking about how you know, he's smart,
and he's he's he's a good kid, and he loves
ball and all this stuff. And he's talked about how
he was a winner, and so I was like, Okay,
(15:19):
did he I wonder if did he win a state championship?
So I wanted I went back and pulled up his
high school stuff. Buck, I know, Rhett, I know guys
that numbers are high school his last year forty five touchdowns,
two picks and then rushed for thirteen hundred and thirty
eight yards and seventeen touchdowns, led his team of the
four A state championship. Yeah, he was, and I believe
(15:40):
he was rich, says runner up. Uh, he was a
finalist for the States, mister football. He didn't win? Who
what did the other guy do? That's what I like
to know. No, curatious, unbelievable, but no, the kid, the
kid Buck. When you get a chance and you get
a chance to dig in on him, like there's with
bodies on him him, it is Ben Roethlisberger, Josh Allen
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type stuff where guys he just pulls, pulls through guys
and gets guys, shrugs guys off of him like it's
it's a different level of just strength and power. And
then you know, I've I wrote down Houdini about ten
times in the three games that I watch where it's
like unblocked rusher and they he's so casual with it,
like you know, this is like Lamar does that where
it's you know, it's a it's an unblocked defender and
(16:26):
it's not like this big eyes panic like it's just
like and then just kind of he moves and he's gone.
You don't touch him. Like he's got unbelievable elusiveness.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
He's such a different player, right, Like we we made
the conversations last year, I think we compared somebody to
like the Steve McNair in terms of rugged lab but
DJ he's more like that type in terms of like
the physicality that he brings to the position. But the
thing is he can run, but he doesn't lean on
that as his soul.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
He takes a clean up. He can operate.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Me. Yeah, it is so unique that you have someone
who is gifted enough as a runner where he could
be a fifteen hundred yard rusher, but he is really
dialed in in the pocket and he uses it when
he needs it, not just because he has it. It
is a unique skill and tool. And when we talk
about people willing to bet on the upside, he may
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not play like some of the other guys play, but
you can see why if you are about the prototypes
and the tools and hey, I got to compete with
the Allens and Mahomes, you can see why people will
be fascinated with what he could be.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
If he continues to play at the level that he's
played at well.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
And just to kind of give you another analogy of
what I'm kind of talking about with what you know,
people who wanted to go see Leonoris, like you know,
DJ is an aspiring golfer.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Now you know, like you actually you want to you know,
you want.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
To follow like people the throng of people that would
follow Tiger Woods right or that would follow you know,
their favorite golfer, Scheffler whoever. It was like at it,
like when when they set up these quarterback workouts down here, two.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Of the three workouts are there's four stations.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Peyton runs one, Eli runs one, Demo runs one, and
then they got another couple of guys.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
That run another one.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Like like there were guys like me that would just
follow Leonoris through each each station, just because they wanted
to see it, right, see it in different scenarios, and
they did.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
They did a really good job with that.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
So well, you know what they say about next year's draft,
it's a seller's market.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Oh hey, look young though, right. I mean it's no
you know, no, no guarantee that we're going to see
him again, but see him come out.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
But I mean we'll see.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
All right. So those I mean talked about Arch talked
about sellers. To me, those are the two headliners that
I was most interested. So now I want to get
into like, who are some of the other guys that
that jumped out to you?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, look, I mean a couple of guys that we're
going to talk about a lot coming up here this spring.
Kye Club, Nick Clemson and Garrett nus Meyer at LSU
actually kind of similar body types, you know. But the
thing I kept coming back to was the way that
Garrett nuss Meyer handles himself, the way that he approaches
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a workout. And I did get to see his dad.
His dad was there for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Doug.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Doug and I go way back to when he was
coming into the league with the Saints out of Idaho,
and he actually briefly held the Superdome record for the
longest touchdown pass in history. Yeah, Terry guess, but that
that that record was quickly broken when Drew Brees came
into town.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
But anyway, so I got to catch up with Doug
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
And you can just see son of a coach, right,
you see that in the way he talks, the way
he acts with the microphone in front of him, which
I had actually had a chance to run a Q
and A with the campers and about ten of these quarterbacks,
and Nus was one of them.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Man, just he's got an edge to him.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Like he is a fiery competitive like so many questions
as you can imagine in Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
That were lodged towards.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Nuss Meyer and Clubnik ahead of the week one matchup
between those two, right, the whole Death Valley conversation, the
whole thing, you know, like everybody wanted to know. And look,
they had some playful back and forth. But Nus is
a gamer man like he is. He let it be
known that like, look, yeah, I mean we respect the
heck kind of Clemson kid's one of the best quarterbacks
in the country. But you know, like we're here to
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win this game. And the thing that reminded the thing
that I was reminded watching Nus throw the ball and
Klubnick was you know, like he was totally fine. Like
it didn't it didn't wow me, didn't jump out to me,
but like totally you know, kind of handle himself, maybe
the way in which you would expect just kind of
steady Eddy, but Nus, like Nus was different in the
(20:49):
way he approached each rep in each workout was really
kind of fun to watch, just the way he would
the way, like the intensity in which he would you know,
make a drop on air. It honestly reminded me of
the way that Peyton used to do it in those
workouts in those settings like it was the Super Bowl
in in the at the end of June, like that's
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everything was so technically and fundamentally sound with him with
the way like and I just you know, because there's
guys who you know, will take a shotgun snap, they'll
like you know, bounce around for a second and then
try to show off the arm. That was not nuts.
He was working the game, working the drill, working the
rep every time. I thought that was really really impressive.
So those two guys certainly, another guy that we don't
(21:33):
talk about a ton but was a college football playoff
quarterback last year was Jennings from SMU, and he was there.
And what I'll bring up with Jennings is the urgency,
like the urgency in which he gets rid of the ball,
in which he gets to his release point from wherever
he is under center and his shotgun.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I mean it is cat quick.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And so that kind of brought me to some of
John Gruden's like greatest hits.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
From the camp, Like when I went up to him
and I.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Was like, coach, what do you get out of what
do you get out of a workout like this? You
know in shorts and T shirts on air? You know
a couple receivers here and there they've never worked with.
He's like, it's quickness, man, you know, I mean it's quickness, right.
I want to see mental quickness. I want to see
you working through the progression even when you don't have
a defense out there. And I want to see the
arm quickness. I want to see the body quickness. Like
(22:24):
everything was about quickness and urgency. And Kevin Jennings man
was was outstanding on that front. There's a number of
guys that were like that too, but he really stuck
out to me. And while I'm on the topic of Gruden,
and I'll get back to the quarterbacks here in just
sec but for you, Coach Buck, I want to and
you'll appreciate the story too, ditch, but.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Let me let me make that determination. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Fair enough, fair enough. So Gruden's with Johnny Major's at Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It's like one of his first gigs in college, right, yes,
exactly right, And they talked about that but low level
Stafford because CD he's always down at the camp, but
low level Stafford. And he's got the privilege of entertaining
Frank Broyles, who was coming in to hang out with
coach Majors, right, you know, the Broyles Award giving her
a top assistant Arcus. He comes in and and Broyles,
(23:15):
Broyles wants to watch some tape and uh, and so
he and Gruden get to talking about it, and he's
got to go do a cut up for Coach Broyle's
which is like literally cutting the film right and putting
it up on the projector and all that. So he
does it and they show a bunch of routes that
he's been working on with some of the receivers and
talking to Coach Broyles about the route depth, you know,
like we're gonna run this deep bot you know, this
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this over route here, we're gonna get up to twelve
yards and we're gonna make this break. And Coach Broyles
is watching the tape. He's like, hey, Coach Cruden, what
was what was the depth of that route that you
were saying on that He's like twelve, Coach. He's like,
this guy's running out of ten here, and he would
go through another route and he's like, this route depth
isn't quite resids nine thought you said ten. And Cruden's like,
(23:56):
oh boy, I'm getting roasted here by broils, like thinking
that you know my you know, my stuff doesn't stink here.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And sure enough.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
But the what Broyle said to him is what you
see on tape is what you coach, right, even if
it's not even even if it's not directly something that
even if the guy's doing something that you know you
might have told him to go at twelve, but he's
still going at ten, that's on you, right. And there's
just something so simple that kind of stuck with me there.
But what you see on tape is what you coach,
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both negatively and positively. So you know, just just a
reminder out there about the detail.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
How many times have you heard that? Buck though? Hey,
we're either teaching it or we're allowing it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
And the and the hard thing is are you persistent
in terms of are you on them every day about
those details or whatever. It is always funny though when
you hear coaches talk about those old coaches who are
great the attention to detail.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
That's it, man, When when?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
And that is why some coaches like to invite other
coaches to observe practice, because that ego that an old
coach has, and you know, they kind of are unfiltered,
so they would tell you, like frame Burls, So.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I'm not right, yeah, okay, all right, you want uh
you want one one bit of comedy from uh?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Uh so let me let me pull this up here
exactly because uh I mentioned Mark Gronowski was there, right,
So first workout, first workout was, oh, let's see that
it was the Thursday, right, and they're running through a
bunch of drills and then they start running. They start
running some routes, routes on air, and you know they're
(25:45):
gonna do like five or six, seven, eight different routes.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And then they ended with a go route right, just
the nine ball right, we're running and we're just we're letting,
we're airing it out to and ended up and so
you know, there's forty quarterbacks trying to work out time,
ends up getting constrained.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
He only gets to throw the go ball once. He's like, no, no, no, no,
only threw it once.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
My man Grant Jordan, who will be the starter at
UMass this year after an illustrious career at Yale transferred
into UMass. He kind of pipes in from the back.
He's like, dude, you're a quarterback at Iowa. You only
get one go ball. It was just like the realness
of it. That's a line, but that also goes to
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show you, like the little bit of the kind of
friend personal competitiveness and personality that goes on with these
like alpha dudes that are all in a room together
for four days, which was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
All Right, we're down to our last few minutes here, Red,
so I'm gonna give you kind of do you have
five guys can you give me the thumbnail on five
more intriguing guys that were there.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
John Mattyr. John Matteer, is I mean really, I mean
like he was the most impressive to me day one,
Like first workout, I was like, holy smokes. And then
like you watch me, you see I don't know if
it comes if you see it on on tape as
much DJ, but like you see him in person, that
dude is built like thickness lower half, like he could
(27:12):
put the neck roll on and be a full back
if you needed him too. And he's kind of got
that mentality too.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So was uh, it was kind of excited about that
and about him. Sam Levitt Man, I think for a
guy who saw his star just explode last year for
the Big twelve champion Arizona State Sun Devils, like I was,
I was impressed with just man. He's got he kind
of he puts it together, understands like the position he's
in now, and pretty solid, I mean pretty tightly wound.
(27:43):
He was not like I would put him in like
the certainly the top five, top six seven guys that
were that were throwing it, ripping it around there for sure,
so I'd have him up there. Let's see, uh up,
We've done Jennings, we did Arch Club.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Nick.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I would say, you know, Gunner Stockton was just kind
of middle of the road for me. You know, I
think there's probably some it's just like it wasn't as
elite at the high end as some of the other guys.
Not to say he can't get the job done for
Georgia with the extremely talented group around him, like, I
think they're gonna be just fine. Ty Simpson was a
(28:22):
fun one to watch and like just a really you know,
for a guy who's gonna be a quarterback at Alabama,
very unassuming, like just kind of little.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He needs to be careful because it sounds like the
freshman kid they got coming in there from Duncanville is
like one of the most interciting love dub players in
the country. Yeah, Ty's gotta get you, gotta hit the
ground running. We don't no kidding.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
And then the the last one I'll give you is
a guy was extremely impressed with kind of in the
workouts and then just in the way he carried himself.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Austin Simmons at Old Miss.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Red shirt sophomore who is kind of been at Old
miss right, and I know, I know, you know, Coach
Kiffin has said that, like he's got some stuff that
Jackson Dark didn't right in his tool bag, which is
extremes baseball and he was baseball and football. Dudd like
twenty strikeouts for the Revs the previous baseball season, and
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you know he's going to be playing his first real
football you know, this year he is. He graduated, he
has already graduated. He's nineteen years old. He's already graduated
at on this he is now working on his on
his next degree. Just really smart, like he was really
competitive with the kids, was really good coaching the kids.
You know, Like I've talked to you guys about this
(29:38):
a number of times. DJ, Like we're going through routes
on air, which is a part of the drill period,
and we you know, we go in with the quarterbacks.
So my group of receivers joins a group of quarterbacks.
And I always wanted to just ask, man, man, what's
your favorite two man combo over here that we can
we can get the receivers to run. Some of them
are like, huh, what do we don't do that in
our offense? I'm like, well, can you just can you
(29:58):
just do one here, because this is what we got.
We got six receivers. Okay, let's just let's try and
get him some reps. And this dude was out here,
I mean like coaching up routes. Route technique coach Broyles
would have been proud man he was. He was coaching
up the details of every route. So I think he's
got a great command of what Lane wants him to do.
He has got some excellent tools, really mobile and just
(30:20):
like a really kind of whippy arm. I'm excited to
see what what he's got for him.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I just I just love all he's saying personality wise.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Whose personality stood out to you? You've been around the
quarterback position, yeah, you know, like who's the dude's dude.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
When it comes to all those guys been around each other?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, you know it was.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
You know, it's kind of interesting to kind of watch
that unfold, like we've you know, we've talked about it
in the past, like guys that they kind of have
that magnetism to him, you know, and nuss Meyer is
is really that guy. And you can see why Brian
Kelly loves him, why l s u why his teammates
love him at l.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
S U, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Sure that they've got guys that are probably, you know,
maybe more talented. You know, from like just an overall standpoint,
probably could have gone out and got guys that are
more talented. But I don't think you'll find a guy
who connects more, who is more ready for the moment,
who is more technically and fundamentally ready to be the
(31:20):
guy at LSU again this year than nus Meyer. And
like you could just kind of see it, like guys
were just around him all the time, which I thought
was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
That's awesome. All right. To close it up, selfish, they
have to ask you about one final guy, Sawyer Robertson
from Baylor.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, Sawyer was great. Sawyer was great. You know, it's
kind of a small world here. His backup quarterback, Nate
Bennett is our pastor at our church out here. Oh
my gosh, yeah, oh nuts. Yeah, it's a totally small
world deal. So I went up to him. We started talking,
and you want to talk about impressive young men, like
that was probably the most impressive conversation that I had.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Like that guy.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Man just has a great of gratitude for where he is.
The opportunity as and like I thought he threw the
ball actually, you know pretty well. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
But my favorite moment was I was like, hey, uh,
just kind of curious if you, uh, if.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
You had any idea about a you know, you know,
younger guy was in the was in the recruiting office,
was in the football office, little right right, Ryland Jeremiah
and and I was like what.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, He's like, yeah, I know Ryland. Ryland was the
first guy ever caught a pass for me at Baylor. Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And I was like what. And so he told me
this whole story about how, uh did you just a park?
They were there at a park and Ryland went up
and bought balls from him, and and so they've been
kind of tight and they'd see each other in the office.
And but here's the thing, like, you know how the
interview question right whereas you know they bring into the
office and like, hey, do you remember the second the
receptionist name that you remember the guy who greeted his name.
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That guy like understands the importance of every person in
the organization.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
It was clear to me.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
And like he went on and and and on about
Ryland and about you know, he loves Taylor.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I think Baylor's in great hands this year with Sawyer.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, it'll be interesting. Yeah, Buck, he was there. I
think he was just there with a couple buddies, like
just throwing the football around. And Ryland and is in
recruiting and then knew knew who he wasn't kind of
what he looked like. He's like, I think that's our
new quarterback. Has transferred them from a six state Go
over to say hello to him, and he's like, hey,
you he needs somebody to catch some balls. So routes
cup balls from him right at the park because he
just got into Waco. But yeah, he had he had
(33:28):
a good year. They've got a really good running back.
They should be uh interesting. Did you see by the way, Buck,
do you see Prime on Big twelve media days? I
I did.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Prime was decked out, had his new little Nike shoes
on and all that.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Michael Playmaker.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Playmaker got a shout out because there was a lot
of concern about Prime's health because he kind of been
in the dark, so it was he didn't address it,
but it was great to see him. I just think
Prime is Prime, and he's gonna say whatever he feels,
and so the salary cap thing is what came out
of that. How he feels like, hey, just look at
the teams that are playing in a deal and I'm like, well, yeah,
but that's no different than anything that we've seen, Like, yeah,
(34:05):
you got to.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Pay to play, and we're all much better coaches when
you got better players.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
So you got to find a way to get better players.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And right now you talk about the haves and the
have nots.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I mean, it's a big part of college football, and
you got to figure out a way to get in
the game if you want to compet at the high levels.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Him about Joey McGuire, Did you see that one?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Shout out?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
John?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Love you, Joey, Joey, I love you Joey.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
That money he left over money there at Texas Tech,
my way, that's funny. Not a lot of oil money
in Colorado, not that I know of it.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
No, no, no, but you know who got money. I
got money because they broke him off with their new contract.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You will be okay, all right, boys, this has been
fun rahtt The tradition lives. Yes, I appreciate you coming
on and doing give it Manning recap and I'll let
you get back to Uh. I mean, I'm gonna guess today, Rhett,
probably what do you think, Buck, I think he'srobably grilling
some salmon burgers.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
That sounds great.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
What you think he's got going on today?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Boys got boys got basketball practice back to back, so
we got a stummer hoops, we got to get it going.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah. Oh outdoors early?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Oh nice? Yeah, White men can't jump action out there.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
You probably probably you probably have JJ Redick coaching your
team based on where you're at.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Efficient.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
No more than three dribbles. Three dribbles too many.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
On that front.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Man, you're bringing back nightmares. Man, remember the one, Remember
remember one? Remember one on one one dribble, Remember that
you get I've only played three dribbles. We did one.
It was all just jab steps. It was jab steps,
shot figs and you got one dribble and you got
a pull and so it was Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
You can't even you can't even, guy, you can't even
using unorthodox Hey you anything.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But you can get but you can get the one
dribble on a step back. You can get a lot of.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
But my only advice to the boys, boardman gets board
man gets paid. We're going out towards we are living
on the boards.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Okay, I'll leave you.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I'll leave you with this. I went through a horrible
shooting slump. I don't remember. It was some time in
high school. I don't know what a year I was in,
but my dad, I was a point guard, and my
dad was like, hey, you just gotta stop thinking about shooting,
all right, get that out of your head. I'm going
to pay you ten dollars for every rebound you get
in this game. I swear to you, guys, well, getting
back on defense is not an option. I was, hey,
(36:35):
a lot, yeah, yeah, a lot of cherry pick layups
on the other end. But I was getting my boards.
I think I got like, I think eighty bucks. Man,
They're like eight boards is a point guard. It's nice, Okay,
ninety three that's trying to get a triple double. Fann't know.
I don't care, don't care. It's eighty bucks.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I certainly hope you want to do it like Ricky
Davis throwing the ball off.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
The bad board and grabbing me and just getting your
own board. That's not a bad idea. That's not a
bad idea at all. That's outstin all right. This has
been fun. I hope you guys have enjoyed it. We'll
see you next time. Right here, I'm on the thing.
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky
and look who it is. It's our good friend Rhett
who's joined the show. America is back.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Let's go, let's go still ride in the high July
fourth baby.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, how long after? How long? By the way, today
we're going to hit on the Manning camp where Brett
was And we do this every year. But how long
after you got back from Thibodau before you stop sweating? Now?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Right into the right, right into the fourth of July picnic,
still with a nice glisten Yeah, just just glistening.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You do a way do you weigh in way out
and out of that camp.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Years?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
But I love that heat, like I I like.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's like a warm embrace for activity.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I like, I like I like sweat that like I
like working out. Yeah, Buck, there's no way around every
day just like walking around you don't nobody enjoys that.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Such a it's just such a hard just a horrid deal.
It's hot, it's muggy, the bugs come on.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
You need that humidity, but you need a little bit
of that rather that than like that that drive Phoenix
heat at hundred and ten.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Guess what we don't We don't live in Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
We paid a California tax.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, we get to California right now. We California. Whether
over eighty.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm like, whoa, whoa, WHOA.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Didn't sign up for this. I signed it for seventy
eight's that's true. That's true for those who don't know,
like golf heat by the way, like the golf humidity.
Like here, I'll give you the two the two adjustments
I had to make as a kid whorew up in
San Diego going to going to college in Monroe, Louisiana
for for two years or year and a half. The
first the first one was this I remember that, well,
(01:58):
there's three. First of all, it was like, why are
we practicing at seven o'clock in the morning? At seven
o'clock at night? What are we doing? Do you want that?
That was the first thing. The second thing was we'd
be walking out towards practice and there was just all
these aerosol cans like just lined up, and I just
remember thinking, like, I guess like sunscreen or something like
you know, I put some sunscreen onto my dorm. I'm fine.
(02:21):
And then and then I came back in. I'm like, hey,
why does look like I have chicken pox. They're like, yeah,
the mosquitos, you dummy, that's what the freaking space were
on the way out to practice. So that was my
second thing. And then the third thing, and Buck, I
know you you'll this is same. I'm sure it's same
in Carolinas. But like I remember parking. We were going
to like a store, like a clothing store or something,
(02:44):
with like four or five of us, and we parked
and we're, you know, I don't know, maybe seventy five
hundred feet from the store, and it just started to sprinkle,
like just the tiniest sprinkle, and these guys like freaking
Carl Lewis who say bolt like they take off sprinting
for the store, and I'm like, guys, it's a little
doh my gosh, it just went. I am just I'm like, yeah,
(03:09):
that was my So those are my three adjustments.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
We had one of those, by the way, we got
rained out. One practice got rained out. It was the
day two, afternoon, number two practice of the day, which
was actually.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Kind of nice. It was kind of nice.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, we got all.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
The workouts in for the college quarterbacks that were there, which.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Is alright, well, this is gonna get us to this
show today and I'll start us off. It is time
for Hot or Not, brought to you by with Sabby
Hot Cloud Storage. We've talked about the heat, so we've
handled that part of it. Rhett. For those that don't know,
just give the thirty thousand foot view of what this
camp is and how it's growing over the years.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
YEP started nineteen ninety six two Lane University. I was
in eighth grade and went to the camp as a camper,
kept going back all the way through my senior year.
I was invited to come back, you know by Archie
in the in the staff when I was playing in
Indiana and have been coming back on staff ever since.
This was the twenty ninth year of the camp. I've
now been to twenty seven of the twenty nine, so
(04:08):
missed two of them. And it was actually DJ where
we first met in person, was down at the Manning camp.
When you refuse to let your entire team get equal
playing times when they in the game, no we did not.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So it's about.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I'd like to play quarterback? Yeah, yeah, so what I mean,
but you're.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, this guy's playing, right, Yeah, so you were you
were the reason that that Archie was getting all the
calls from the parents and like.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
My kid didn't play.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, get all this money for this camp. Well that's
what the individual drills are for, right.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Right, Yeah, And so fifteen hundred campers this time, biggest
camp yet had I think it was. The final number
was forty eight college quarterbacks on staff and then about
another hundred or so additional staffers, high school coaches from
around the country. A bunch of NFL guys ended up
showing up just to sometimes their kids are campers and
(05:02):
they kind of hang around a little bit, which is
always always really fun to see. What The distinguished guest
of this camp though, was John Gruden, who was just
an absolute firecracker of of just passion for ball in
you know, ninety five degree heat and hundred percent humidity
down in Thibodeau.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So that was cool.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's four days, two full days, two half days of
just NonStop ball man, and it's it's a chance for
you to pour into the kids, but to also receive
a lot of value to you know, as a staff member,
as a high school coach.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Is a college quarterback. It's really full service.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I got to ask you, Ritt, how, yeah, do the
participants to counselors, how much do they revere having the
mannings available?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Like?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
How how much are they hanging on every word when
those guys get in front of room, Payton and Elick.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Well looking, you guys know this because it's it ends
up being a question to a handful of guys that
end up coming through our doors in the draft process
because and you always get just a little bit of
a different answer, like somebody takes a little bit something,
you know, a little something different from each each time
that they get to interact with Eli and Peyton and
(06:15):
with Cooper and with Archie and with everybody that's down there.
I think, uh, just understanding, like your coaches tell you,
and you have a sense of.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
What you need to do right to be the.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Best, but to hear it from the best, to hear
exactly what their process was, I think it resonates just
a little bit differently, right when you understand what Peyton
was doing to prepare, when you understand how Eli, you know,
managed to be the face of a franchise in New
York for the entirety of his career and you understand,
(06:48):
start to understand all that goes into that. I think
it just sinks in a little bit more. And so
I would say it is it is revered, like there's
no zero to ten on it. Like it is it
is up there, and they definitely take advantage of those opportunities,
which is really deep.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's a good way of explaining all that. So there's
kind of like the thirty thousand foot view of the
camp that was this week's Hot or Not segment brought
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at Withsabi dot com. So this is the good stuff
we're looking forward to. RTT is you get a chance
to be around these college quarterbacks, which is going to
be who we're talking about in the spring and in
(07:27):
the springs to come with the with the NFL Draft
ahead of us. So I guess give us an idea
of some of the some of the big time names
that were there, and then we get in to the takeaways.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Sure, sure, so you know really excited, you know this
year to see a bunch of these guys, A couple
of them. I'm going to see my work for Big
Ten Network. Mark Ronowski from Iowa. I'm sure I'm going
to see in the Big Ten Luke Altmeyer from Illinois.
Illinois's top twenty five team this year playoff aspirations. So
it was excited to see those two guys selfishly for
those reasons. And then you had like, you know, the
(08:01):
guys that could be the top five, six, seven quarterbacks
in the country this year. John Matteer from Oklahoma, Leonora
Sellers from South Carolina, kde Klubnick from Clemson, Sam Levitt
from Arizona State, Gunner Stockton from Georgia, and of course
the name the namesake, Arch Manning from Texas.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And so start there by the way I'm start there.
All right, let's just do it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Let's start right there, because I think I mentioned this
to you guys, or may have been. It was Almo
with the Insiders last year, right after the camp, and
I was just blown away by how just grounded.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Arches despite all that's happening around him.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
How you know, it was important to him to stay
away from the nil stuff until he got that job,
until he was going to be the starter, which you know,
obviously he is going into this season and his joy
for the game, like his joy and his passion for
being around ball, for being around teammates, for being around
(09:07):
his guys. Like you know, I think when you when
you Weres was there with him last year and they
were like neck and neck, just always couldn't couldn't separate him.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And just like guy enjoys the college experience.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And so when you hear Eli and Payton talk about
why it was important for him to go.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
To Texas, to stay at Texas.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Even though he was going to sit for the better
part of two years, it's because like they wanted him
to like enjoy going to college at Texas, like that
was actually a goal that was actually a priority. And
you can see that man, and it's like, yeah, sure
the weight of the world might be on his shoulders
from externally, but like when you're around him, it sure
doesn't feel like he feels that. So I think he's
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got a great demeanor for being a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Then you get to just watching him and it's like.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It's just it's just different, man, it is, you know,
And I know they've done some work he works with
with David Morris and Quarterback Country. You guys, you know,
we know very well and they've done some really good
work with him too, Like his motion is so compact
and efficient.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And it just popps.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So like they've worked a lot, and this is not
unique to Arts, right, so many of these quarterbacks are
going to be you know, quote unquote closed off. Right,
that front foot is kind of closed off, and so
Arch was leaning at the top of his drop, at
the top of his release point quite a bit. So man,
they've really worked on opening that front foot up and
bringing that rotation through and man, you can see this
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ball is just popping like it is alive off his hand,
not like it wasn't before.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
But it's different.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It is different from when I saw him, you know,
coming in as a freshman, even the last year, like
this year, it felt like he is dialed, like his
mechanics are dialed in, and every ball is just it's
just so it's so effortless, like it just comes out
with ease. You know, we said that about a number
of quarterbacks you know that have been at the top
of the class, you know, whether you know, whenever they
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end up coming out, and he's certainly guys fits that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Bill.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I gotta I want to follow up on that because
the big thing. Like a lot of times when you
go see a quarterback live, it is to get a
feel for the velocity in those things. And so you
talk about the improvements and how the ball comes out
and how lively it is. You've seen some of the
top quarterbacks like even before then to come out, Like
where does it rain? Do we talk about like plus
arm talent? Are we above average? Like where where would
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you put that that that arm arm talent when it
just on a.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Natural throwing Yeah, I mean it's it's, it's it's special.
Like you know, I'm not gonna say he's, uh, he's
Andy Luck over here or anything like that, but like
it's it's it's it's in that conversation like of guys
that I've seen throw it that make it look that good,
you know what I mean. And then like just a
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body type like he's just so powerful, like his lower
half is so well built and he maintains like just
some some urgency in his drops and his footwork. I mean,
this is a big athletic kid. He And that's what
I think again, people are going to really start to
understand if they haven't seen it outside of Austin this year,
is that you know he is he is not.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I mean he is more Archie Manning than Peyton and
Eli Manning. Uh and even you know.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He's you know, like his dad, Cooper was a pretty
damn good athlete, you know, went to Old Miss the
receiver before he had this this spinal cord injury. And
so he has got his his grandpa and his dad's athleticism.
And I think that in today's game, he is the
prototype of today's quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Like that's for me.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Like he is he is more like you know, built
physically and then with the arm talent and with the
athleticism like it's it just to check, check check.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That's going to lead me right to the next guy. Then,
because I just finished and I talked about him previously
Lemora's Sellers and watching him and how I'm curious to
see because I'm a big fan of his and I'll
do arch next. I haven't done him yet, but just
comparing those guys physically, hey what do they you know
physically look like build wise and height wise, all those
types of things as well. It's just kind of how
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the ball came out of their hand this week.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, So Leonora's Sellers, as you can imagine DJ just
from watching it on tape, but when you see it
in person, it's a strong man. The power is intoxicating
like it is.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It is so fun like it is.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It is definitely like you want to follow him around,
like you just want to watch it, like you want
to hear it, you know, like when his fingers when
that when his fingers come off the ball.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
As that ball starts its rotation, it's like a whip,
like you hear it, and it's I mean, it is
it is.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Really it is different, I'll put it that way, you know,
like it's it's to me, the power coming off of it,
coming out of his hand is even you know, a
step above what you saw from March. But it's a
different type of delivery, Like it's the RPMs are so
wound up in that thing. So and then like I
got to spend a litle time with him, you know,
just to talk to him to kind of understand a
little bit more about who he is. And you know,
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he's one of those dudes that you know, will sit there,
look in the eye, we'll ask you what will be
an active participant in the conversation and not just a
yes or no, You know, a type of answer answerer
of questions which a lot of these guys end up
being like he, you know, loved talking about the offense
now with Mike Shula as the play caller, and Mike's brother,
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Dave was at the camp and has been at the
camp for a number of years, and so Dave was
telling me just about how they love the kid. I mean,
he talked for about ten minutes about who Lenora Sellers
is before we even talked about what he is as
a player. So I thought that was pretty special. You've
all heard the stories about what he turned down to
stay at South Carolina. But that humbleness like that, that loyalty,
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that ability to understand you know what it means, you know,
for him to be there at South Carolina and to
remain there at South Carolina, I think was pretty special
in today's world.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
But by the way, I I just wrote him up
because I just finished and I'd watched him a few
days ago and had to write him up. But I
was curious because I had heard, you know, talking to
dal Loggins, who had been the oc there at South Carolina,
and you know, talking about, yeah, he loves him, and
he was like talking about how you know, he's smart,
and he's he's he's a good kid, and he loves
ball and all this stuff. And he's talked about how
he was a winner, and so I was like, Okay,
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did he I wonder if did he win a state championship?
So I wanted I went back and pulled up his
high school stuff. Buck, I know, Rhett, I know guys
that numbers are high school his last year forty five touchdowns,
two picks and then rushed for thirteen hundred and thirty
eight yards and seventeen touchdowns, led his team of the
four A state championship. Yeah, he was, and I believe
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he was rich, says runner up. Uh, he was a
finalist for the States, mister football. He didn't win? Who
what did the other guy do? That's what I like
to know. No, curatious, unbelievable, but no, the kid, the
kid Buck. When you get a chance and you get
a chance to dig in on him, like there's with
bodies on him him, it is Ben Roethlisberger, Josh Allen
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type stuff where guys he just pulls, pulls through guys
and gets guys, shrugs guys off of him like it's
it's a different level of just strength and power. And
then you know, I've I wrote down Houdini about ten
times in the three games that I watch where it's
like unblocked rusher and they he's so casual with it,
like you know, this is like Lamar does that where
it's you know, it's a it's an unblocked defender and
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it's not like this big eyes panic like it's just
like and then just kind of he moves and he's gone.
You don't touch him. Like he's got unbelievable elusiveness.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
He's such a different player, right, Like we we made
the conversations last year, I think we compared somebody to
like the Steve McNair in terms of rugged lab but
DJ he's more like that type in terms of like
the physicality that he brings to the position. But the
thing is he can run, but he doesn't lean on
that as his soul.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
He takes a clean up. He can operate.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Me. Yeah, it is so unique that you have someone
who is gifted enough as a runner where he could
be a fifteen hundred yard rusher, but he is really
dialed in in the pocket and he uses it when
he needs it, not just because he has it. It
is a unique skill and tool. And when we talk
about people willing to bet on the upside, he may
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not play like some of the other guys play, but
you can see why if you are about the prototypes
and the tools and hey, I got to compete with
the Allens and Mahomes, you can see why people will
be fascinated with what he could be.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
If he continues to play at the level that he's
played at well.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
And just to kind of give you another analogy of
what I'm kind of talking about with what you know,
people who wanted to go see Leonoris, like you know,
DJ is an aspiring golfer.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Now you know, like you actually you want to you know,
you want.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
To follow like people the throng of people that would
follow Tiger Woods right or that would follow you know,
their favorite golfer, Scheffler whoever. It was like at it,
like when when they set up these quarterback workouts down here, two.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Of the three workouts are there's four stations.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Peyton runs one, Eli runs one, Demo runs one, and
then they got another couple of guys.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
That run another one.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Like like there were guys like me that would just
follow Leonoris through each each station, just because they wanted
to see it, right, see it in different scenarios, and
they did.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
They did a really good job with that.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
So well, you know what they say about next year's draft,
it's a seller's market.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Oh hey, look young though, right. I mean it's no
you know, no, no guarantee that we're going to see
him again, but see him come out.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
But I mean we'll see.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
All right. So those I mean talked about Arch talked
about sellers. To me, those are the two headliners that
I was most interested. So now I want to get
into like, who are some of the other guys that
that jumped out to you?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, look, I mean a couple of guys that we're
going to talk about a lot coming up here this spring.
Kye Club, Nick Clemson and Garrett nus Meyer at LSU
actually kind of similar body types, you know. But the
thing I kept coming back to was the way that
Garrett nuss Meyer handles himself, the way that he approaches
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a workout. And I did get to see his dad.
His dad was there for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Doug.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Doug and I go way back to when he was
coming into the league with the Saints out of Idaho,
and he actually briefly held the Superdome record for the
longest touchdown pass in history. Yeah, Terry guess, but that
that that record was quickly broken when Drew Brees came
into town.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
But anyway, so I got to catch up with Doug
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
And you can just see son of a coach, right,
you see that in the way he talks, the way
he acts with the microphone in front of him, which
I had actually had a chance to run a Q
and A with the campers and about ten of these quarterbacks,
and Nus was one of them.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Man, just he's got an edge to him.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Like he is a fiery competitive like so many questions
as you can imagine in Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
That were lodged towards.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Nuss Meyer and Clubnik ahead of the week one matchup
between those two, right, the whole Death Valley conversation, the
whole thing, you know, like everybody wanted to know. And look,
they had some playful back and forth. But Nus is
a gamer man like he is. He let it be
known that like, look, yeah, I mean we respect the
heck kind of Clemson kid's one of the best quarterbacks
in the country. But you know, like we're here to
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win this game. And the thing that reminded the thing
that I was reminded watching Nus throw the ball and
Klubnick was you know, like he was totally fine. Like
it didn't it didn't wow me, didn't jump out to me,
but like totally you know, kind of handle himself, maybe
the way in which you would expect just kind of
steady Eddy, but Nus, like Nus was different in the
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way he approached each rep in each workout was really
kind of fun to watch, just the way he would
the way, like the intensity in which he would you know,
make a drop on air. It honestly reminded me of
the way that Peyton used to do it in those
workouts in those settings like it was the Super Bowl
in in the at the end of June, like that's
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everything was so technically and fundamentally sound with him with
the way like and I just you know, because there's
guys who you know, will take a shotgun snap, they'll
like you know, bounce around for a second and then
try to show off the arm. That was not nuts.
He was working the game, working the drill, working the
rep every time. I thought that was really really impressive.
So those two guys certainly, another guy that we don't
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talk about a ton but was a college football playoff
quarterback last year was Jennings from SMU, and he was there.
And what I'll bring up with Jennings is the urgency,
like the urgency in which he gets rid of the ball,
in which he gets to his release point from wherever
he is under center and his shotgun.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I mean it is cat quick.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And so that kind of brought me to some of
John Gruden's like greatest hits.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
From the camp, Like when I went up to him
and I.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Was like, coach, what do you get out of what
do you get out of a workout like this? You
know in shorts and T shirts on air? You know
a couple receivers here and there they've never worked with.
He's like, it's quickness, man, you know, I mean it's quickness, right.
I want to see mental quickness. I want to see
you working through the progression even when you don't have
a defense out there. And I want to see the
arm quickness. I want to see the body quickness. Like
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everything was about quickness and urgency. And Kevin Jennings man
was was outstanding on that front. There's a number of
guys that were like that too, but he really stuck
out to me. And while I'm on the topic of Gruden,
and I'll get back to the quarterbacks here in just
sec but for you, Coach Buck, I want to and
you'll appreciate the story too, ditch, but.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Let me let me make that determination. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Fair enough, fair enough. So Gruden's with Johnny Major's at Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It's like one of his first gigs in college, right, yes,
exactly right, And they talked about that but low level
Stafford because CD he's always down at the camp, but
low level Stafford. And he's got the privilege of entertaining
Frank Broyles, who was coming in to hang out with
coach Majors, right, you know, the Broyles Award giving her
a top assistant Arcus. He comes in and and Broyles,
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Broyles wants to watch some tape and uh, and so
he and Gruden get to talking about it, and he's
got to go do a cut up for Coach Broyle's
which is like literally cutting the film right and putting
it up on the projector and all that. So he
does it and they show a bunch of routes that
he's been working on with some of the receivers and
talking to Coach Broyles about the route depth, you know,
like we're gonna run this deep bot you know, this
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this over route here, we're gonna get up to twelve
yards and we're gonna make this break. And Coach Broyles
is watching the tape. He's like, hey, Coach Cruden, what
was what was the depth of that route that you
were saying on that He's like twelve, Coach. He's like,
this guy's running out of ten here, and he would
go through another route and he's like, this route depth
isn't quite resids nine thought you said ten. And Cruden's like,
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oh boy, I'm getting roasted here by broils, like thinking
that you know my you know, my stuff doesn't stink here.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And sure enough.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
But the what Broyle said to him is what you
see on tape is what you coach, right, even if
it's not even even if it's not directly something that
even if the guy's doing something that you know you
might have told him to go at twelve, but he's
still going at ten, that's on you, right. And there's
just something so simple that kind of stuck with me there.
But what you see on tape is what you coach,
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both negatively and positively. So you know, just just a
reminder out there about the detail.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
How many times have you heard that? Buck though? Hey,
we're either teaching it or we're allowing it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
And the and the hard thing is are you persistent
in terms of are you on them every day about
those details or whatever. It is always funny though when
you hear coaches talk about those old coaches who are
great the attention to detail.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
That's it, man, When when?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
And that is why some coaches like to invite other
coaches to observe practice, because that ego that an old
coach has, and you know, they kind of are unfiltered,
so they would tell you, like frame Burls, So.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I'm not right, yeah, okay, all right, you want uh
you want one one bit of comedy from uh?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Uh so let me let me pull this up here
exactly because uh I mentioned Mark Gronowski was there, right,
So first workout, first workout was, oh, let's see that
it was the Thursday, right, and they're running through a
bunch of drills and then they start running. They start
running some routes, routes on air, and you know they're
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gonna do like five or six, seven, eight different routes.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And then they ended with a go route right, just
the nine ball right, we're running and we're just we're letting,
we're airing it out to and ended up and so
you know, there's forty quarterbacks trying to work out time,
ends up getting constrained.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
He only gets to throw the go ball once. He's like, no, no, no, no,
only threw it once.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
My man Grant Jordan, who will be the starter at
UMass this year after an illustrious career at Yale transferred
into UMass. He kind of pipes in from the back.
He's like, dude, you're a quarterback at Iowa. You only
get one go ball. It was just like the realness
of it. That's a line, but that also goes to
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show you, like the little bit of the kind of
friend personal competitiveness and personality that goes on with these
like alpha dudes that are all in a room together
for four days, which was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
All Right, we're down to our last few minutes here, Red,
so I'm gonna give you kind of do you have
five guys can you give me the thumbnail on five
more intriguing guys that were there.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
John Mattyr. John Matteer, is I mean really, I mean
like he was the most impressive to me day one,
Like first workout, I was like, holy smokes. And then
like you watch me, you see I don't know if
it comes if you see it on on tape as
much DJ, but like you see him in person, that
dude is built like thickness lower half, like he could
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put the neck roll on and be a full back
if you needed him too. And he's kind of got
that mentality too.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So was uh, it was kind of excited about that
and about him. Sam Levitt Man, I think for a
guy who saw his star just explode last year for
the Big twelve champion Arizona State Sun Devils, like I was,
I was impressed with just man. He's got he kind
of he puts it together, understands like the position he's
in now, and pretty solid, I mean pretty tightly wound.
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He was not like I would put him in like
the certainly the top five, top six seven guys that
were that were throwing it, ripping it around there for sure,
so I'd have him up there. Let's see, uh up,
We've done Jennings, we did Arch Club.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Nick.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I would say, you know, Gunner Stockton was just kind
of middle of the road for me. You know, I
think there's probably some it's just like it wasn't as
elite at the high end as some of the other guys.
Not to say he can't get the job done for
Georgia with the extremely talented group around him, like, I
think they're gonna be just fine. Ty Simpson was a
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fun one to watch and like just a really you know,
for a guy who's gonna be a quarterback at Alabama,
very unassuming, like just kind of little.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He needs to be careful because it sounds like the
freshman kid they got coming in there from Duncanville is
like one of the most interciting love dub players in
the country. Yeah, Ty's gotta get you, gotta hit the
ground running. We don't no kidding.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
And then the the last one I'll give you is
a guy was extremely impressed with kind of in the
workouts and then just in the way he carried himself.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Austin Simmons at Old Miss.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Red shirt sophomore who is kind of been at Old
miss right, and I know, I know, you know, Coach
Kiffin has said that, like he's got some stuff that
Jackson Dark didn't right in his tool bag, which is
extremes baseball and he was baseball and football. Dudd like
twenty strikeouts for the Revs the previous baseball season, and
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you know he's going to be playing his first real
football you know, this year he is. He graduated, he
has already graduated. He's nineteen years old. He's already graduated
at on this he is now working on his on
his next degree. Just really smart, like he was really
competitive with the kids, was really good coaching the kids.
You know, Like I've talked to you guys about this
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a number of times. DJ, Like we're going through routes
on air, which is a part of the drill period,
and we you know, we go in with the quarterbacks.
So my group of receivers joins a group of quarterbacks.
And I always wanted to just ask, man, man, what's
your favorite two man combo over here that we can
we can get the receivers to run. Some of them
are like, huh, what do we don't do that in
our offense? I'm like, well, can you just can you
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just do one here, because this is what we got.
We got six receivers. Okay, let's just let's try and
get him some reps. And this dude was out here,
I mean like coaching up routes. Route technique coach Broyles
would have been proud man he was. He was coaching
up the details of every route. So I think he's
got a great command of what Lane wants him to do.
He has got some excellent tools, really mobile and just
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like a really kind of whippy arm. I'm excited to
see what what he's got for him.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I just I just love all he's saying personality wise.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Whose personality stood out to you? You've been around the
quarterback position, yeah, you know, like who's the dude's dude.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
When it comes to all those guys been around each other?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, you know it was.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
You know, it's kind of interesting to kind of watch
that unfold, like we've you know, we've talked about it
in the past, like guys that they kind of have
that magnetism to him, you know, and nuss Meyer is
is really that guy. And you can see why Brian
Kelly loves him, why l s u why his teammates
love him at l.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
S U, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Sure that they've got guys that are probably, you know,
maybe more talented. You know, from like just an overall standpoint,
probably could have gone out and got guys that are
more talented. But I don't think you'll find a guy
who connects more, who is more ready for the moment,
who is more technically and fundamentally ready to be the
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guy at LSU again this year than nus Meyer. And
like you could just kind of see it, like guys
were just around him all the time, which I thought
was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
That's awesome. All right. To close it up, selfish, they
have to ask you about one final guy, Sawyer Robertson
from Baylor.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, Sawyer was great. Sawyer was great. You know, it's
kind of a small world here. His backup quarterback, Nate
Bennett is our pastor at our church out here. Oh
my gosh, yeah, oh nuts. Yeah, it's a totally small
world deal. So I went up to him. We started talking,
and you want to talk about impressive young men, like
that was probably the most impressive conversation that I had.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Like that guy.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Man just has a great of gratitude for where he is.
The opportunity as and like I thought he threw the
ball actually, you know pretty well. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
But my favorite moment was I was like, hey, uh,
just kind of curious if you, uh, if.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
You had any idea about a you know, you know,
younger guy was in the was in the recruiting office,
was in the football office, little right right, Ryland Jeremiah
and and I was like what.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, He's like, yeah, I know Ryland. Ryland was the
first guy ever caught a pass for me at Baylor. Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And I was like what. And so he told me
this whole story about how, uh did you just a park?
They were there at a park and Ryland went up
and bought balls from him, and and so they've been
kind of tight and they'd see each other in the office.
And but here's the thing, like, you know how the
interview question right whereas you know they bring into the
office and like, hey, do you remember the second the
receptionist name that you remember the guy who greeted his name.
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That guy like understands the importance of every person in
the organization.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
It was clear to me.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
And like he went on and and and on about
Ryland and about you know, he loves Taylor.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I think Baylor's in great hands this year with Sawyer.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, it'll be interesting. Yeah, Buck, he was there. I
think he was just there with a couple buddies, like
just throwing the football around. And Ryland and is in
recruiting and then knew knew who he wasn't kind of
what he looked like. He's like, I think that's our
new quarterback. Has transferred them from a six state Go
over to say hello to him, and he's like, hey,
you he needs somebody to catch some balls. So routes
cup balls from him right at the park because he
just got into Waco. But yeah, he had he had
(33:28):
a good year. They've got a really good running back.
They should be uh interesting. Did you see by the way, Buck,
do you see Prime on Big twelve media days? I
I did.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Prime was decked out, had his new little Nike shoes
on and all that.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Michael Playmaker.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Playmaker got a shout out because there was a lot
of concern about Prime's health because he kind of been
in the dark, so it was he didn't address it,
but it was great to see him. I just think
Prime is Prime, and he's gonna say whatever he feels,
and so the salary cap thing is what came out
of that. How he feels like, hey, just look at
the teams that are playing in a deal and I'm like, well, yeah,
but that's no different than anything that we've seen, Like, yeah,
(34:05):
you got to.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Pay to play, and we're all much better coaches when
you got better players.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
So you got to find a way to get better players.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And right now you talk about the haves and the
have nots.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I mean, it's a big part of college football, and
you got to figure out a way to get in
the game if you want to compet at the high levels.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Him about Joey McGuire, Did you see that one?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Shout out?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
John?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Love you, Joey, Joey, I love you Joey.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
That money he left over money there at Texas Tech,
my way, that's funny. Not a lot of oil money
in Colorado, not that I know of it.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
No, no, no, but you know who got money. I
got money because they broke him off with their new contract.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You will be okay, all right, boys, this has been
fun rahtt The tradition lives. Yes, I appreciate you coming
on and doing give it Manning recap and I'll let
you get back to Uh. I mean, I'm gonna guess today, Rhett,
probably what do you think, Buck, I think he'srobably grilling
some salmon burgers.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
That sounds great.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
What you think he's got going on today?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Boys got boys got basketball practice back to back, so
we got a stummer hoops, we got to get it going.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah. Oh outdoors early?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Oh nice? Yeah, White men can't jump action out there.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
You probably probably you probably have JJ Redick coaching your
team based on where you're at.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Efficient.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
No more than three dribbles. Three dribbles too many.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
On that front.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Man, you're bringing back nightmares. Man, remember the one, Remember
remember one? Remember one on one one dribble, Remember that
you get I've only played three dribbles. We did one.
It was all just jab steps. It was jab steps,
shot figs and you got one dribble and you got
a pull and so it was Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
You can't even you can't even, guy, you can't even
using unorthodox Hey you anything.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But you can get but you can get the one
dribble on a step back. You can get a lot of.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
But my only advice to the boys, boardman gets board
man gets paid. We're going out towards we are living
on the boards.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Okay, I'll leave you.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I'll leave you with this. I went through a horrible
shooting slump. I don't remember. It was some time in
high school. I don't know what a year I was in,
but my dad, I was a point guard, and my
dad was like, hey, you just gotta stop thinking about shooting,
all right, get that out of your head. I'm going
to pay you ten dollars for every rebound you get
in this game. I swear to you, guys, well, getting
back on defense is not an option. I was, hey,
(36:35):
a lot, yeah, yeah, a lot of cherry pick layups
on the other end. But I was getting my boards.
I think I got like, I think eighty bucks. Man,
They're like eight boards is a point guard. It's nice, Okay,
ninety three that's trying to get a triple double. Fann't know.
I don't care, don't care. It's eighty bucks.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I certainly hope you want to do it like Ricky
Davis throwing the ball off.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
The bad board and grabbing me and just getting your
own board. That's not a bad idea. That's not a
bad idea at all. That's outstin all right. This has
been fun. I hope you guys have enjoyed it. We'll
see you next time. Right here, I'm on the thing.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Bucky Brooks
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