December 4, 2025 • 23 mins
Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks are back with a new episode of Move the Stick! They kick off the show by diving into the importance of the wide receiver position and how it dictates teams’ draft strategy (3:27). Then, they preview Week 14 in the NFL by looking at the most intriguing matchups including Colts - Jaguars (7:03), Texans - Chiefs (11:55), Bears - Packers (14:27), Steelers - Ravens (19:05), Bengals - Bills (21:11) and Eagles - Chargers (22:12).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ and
Buck with you. Buck, what is going on? Man? Looks
like you made it back home here I did.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm back. Everything is good. Look, man, I'm coming off
signing and day and all this other stuff. It's kind
of bananas.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna have a great episode by
the way, coming up with great McElroy.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So encourage you guys. Check that one out.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
ESPN College Football analyst, smart guy, former quarterback who's gonna
have a great a great handle on some of these
changes that have taken place.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm really look forward to that Chatbuck, because the.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
College world that we knew and the college world that
exists now it's two different things.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Entertaining Like people can say there's I would say, this
is an argument and we'll get all to this with
with macelroy. But there's people that say this is good.
There's people that say that this is bad, and there's
disagreement there. What you you have to agree on. This
whole thing is kind of entertaining, Buck, I mean, like
it is a wild West, Man.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It has definitely become very entertaining when you think about
all the things that are college football.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm not gonna lie dj I set up.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I mean, we talked about always having an affinity for
these days, signing days, looking at recruiting classes, all that
other stuff. Because the names that you begin to hear
about today, we're going to talk about tomorrow down the line.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And you know, I was fascinated.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I had a chance to listen to Carolina and Michae
Lombardi and Bill Belichick talk about all the things that
they were doing and they signed thirty nine guys. Thirty
nine guys in the class when you and I were
coming out, it was twenty to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, like that's it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Thirty nine guys coming in at one time is ridiculous.
And to hear, you know, them talking about grading scale
and all this other stuff. I was texting with our
buddy Lake Dawson, who's at OU with Jim nagging. He's
just talking about how wild it is, like it is
just a different thing.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And you're right. The biggest move that has happened.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Has become the general manager at the collegiate level, and
many different things that you are handling as it relates
to personnel scouting, their version of the salary cap with
revenue share and everything.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's a lot to deal with, man and even bigger
rosters than you're used to dealing with when you were
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, it's a lot to handle on. I think we're
seeing a lot of our buddies in the NFL world
that are finding out there's a lot of opportunity in
college to run. You know, you're running a franchise. It's
not just a you know, college football program. You're running
a franchise.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, I mean you are. I mean and dependent on
the way that is structured.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Sometimes the coach actually reports to the general manager, not
just the ad like, it's a different thing. We're seeing
that take place at Cal with Ron River taking over
as the general manager and having look the power this
way to make hires and fires in those things. It's
just a different thing. I will be glad when it
kind of settles and we have kind of like what
(03:04):
the league has, like a set of regulations where everyone knows.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Exactly what the rules are.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
This is still a little too chaotic kind of frenzy
for me, but it's fun. I mean, it's fun to watch,
it's fun to kind of check it out, but it's
a different world.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, it's interesting. I was I was thinking about, I
want to get a draft thing here before we get
to some previews for these games coming up this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But I wanted to look at it.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Looking at last year's draft, the twenty five draft, and
I was going through it, and we went quarterback, two
way player in Travis Hunter, pass rusher, tackle, defensive tackle,
running back, tackle, receiver, offensive tackle, tight end.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
So a couple interesting things in there.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Number one is we had a running back and a
tight end that went in the top ten, which would
fly in the face of the you know, positional value,
you know commentary that we've seen over the years, over
the last few years. But also to me, I'm curious.
You know, we saw the three receivers go a few
years or the year before that, right because you had
(04:07):
Harrison elite neighbors and a doonsay all boom boom boom.
Brian Thomas Junr went a little bit later on in
that first round. But as I'm starting to work my
way through the draft stuff, and I'm starting to look
at some grades as I'm putting them in on these
guys and like, just for example, like the Ohio State
receiver and the us C receiver grade wise, they're going
to be all the way up there for me. And
(04:28):
then I'm reading an article about George Pickens and they're
saying that he's you know, this could be a something.
It was an article about the value that he brings
and it said on his next deal he should be
hunting for like thirty two million ONT of annual value.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So I'm sitting here and going.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, I don't have to struggle to justify taking a
wide receiver up there at this point in time, especially
when they're clean, clean players.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It has become such the I mean the swing, the
pendulum swing in terms of the value of the wide
receiver has been remarkable now that I.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Like Tim, just over the last decade in terms of
how people viewed receivers, how we draft receivers, and more importantly,
how we're paying receivers. We were both scouting when they
had that draft where all the running backs Cedric Benson,
Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams all went two, three, and four,
not necessarily in the order that I listed them.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
All, but I remember that I remember how valuable. The
running backs are now to think that wide receivers have
become marquee names that you prioritize within the top ten
because they're that important.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And we're potentially talking about I mean, the Eagles have
done it. The Eagles are operating with two number ones.
The Bengals in essence have a one A and one
B with T Higgins. The Cowboys could potentially go down
that line with CD Lamb and George Pickens DJ. They
are premier positions on the perimeter. And yeah, it's crazy
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because you're going to either have to draft one and
pay one or you're gonna have to pay two. That's
the league that we're going to in terms.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Of how market and how essential they are to the
team building post. So, if you look at the projected
franchise tender numbers for next year, so this is a
franchise tag number, what it would look like right now,
Quarterbacks is thirty nine point seven million, offensive line is
twenty four point six, wide receiver twenty four point three.
(06:28):
So Fuck's that tells you everything right there, that's where
the value is.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
The value is that, So you have to do it
and people are going to have to make those decisions.
So we talk about Jordan tys and or Cardinal Tat
or whoever these guys are that we're talking about first
round grades.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, we have to be comfortable seeing them just building
names off the thing, because they're coming off the board
a tremendous amount of value.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Man, when you look at the savings that you're getting
by getting one of those guys in cost control here
for four or five years, that's pretty darn valuable when
you look at it. Let's get into some of these
games here this weekend. Let's start first of all, your
game Indy Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Huge game. Huge game. Yeah, a huge game, and I'm
so curious to see it.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Last year you had to go through this a little
bit with the charge of like watching them play in
a big game with a new crew. I'm curious to
see what the team Isn't exactly young, but I'm want
to see what a team that is getting used to
winning and a new.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Coaching death, how they handle what will be a big game.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And even though everyone will say, hey, it's only the
big game because the next game, No, this is a
big game because it has legitimate implications.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So how do you approach that game? Do you do
things differently.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Do you continue to do the things that you've done
well and say that we're going to out execute the
team regardless of whether a different strategy might be best
against them.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm just curious to see how it plays out.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And if everybody involved, coaches and players, can make it
the same kind of game that has been for the
first twelve thirteen weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, you look at your team here in Jacksonville. You
work on those broadcasts for the last five with wins,
the only lost being a thirty six twenty nine loss
to Houston. What you could say was one that you
almost gave away.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, gave away for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So I mean you're looking at a team that's really
as hot as anybody right now. And I saw it
in person when they hammer the Chargers thirty five to
six after that game in Houston. What do you think
was the major change in terms of this run that
they're on. What's been the difference this over to quarterback first?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And the numbers aren't going to justify what I'm about
to say, but I would say that Liam Coyn has
tried to get the quarterback to really let it rip.
And I know you've played the position. And I don't
know if you've ever had the one.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Coach that believes in you enough to be like, hey, man,
let it go, don't worry about.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
The mistakes, like just the push the envelope. See where
the lines are so you can figure out.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And it really reminded me of what any Reed did
with Pat Mahomes on the practice field rookie season. Man,
make all the throws. See where those boundaries are for you,
so when you get into the game you know exactly what.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
You can and what you can't do. Liam Cohn has
tried to get Trevor to operate and play like that.
Be fearless, not reckless, Be fearless in terms of I'm
gonna make these players. I'm gonna make these throws. I'm
gonna try and fit it in the type windows. I'm
gonna let it go before the wide receivers open, and
not worry. Oh it needs to be fully clean before
I do it, because that's the only way the great
(09:26):
ones operate.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And so that has been better for him.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
He's had ten total touchdowns since they've had that conversation. Defensively,
they've been able to get more into paint. Josh Anzellen
has five and a half sacks over the last five games.
He beginning to play better and overall, DJ I think
they've just kind of scaled it back. They put the
young guys on the field, and they've just really made
it a game where it's about how hard can you play?
Can you just play harder, longer than the opponent and
(09:52):
don't worry what the score looks like And it sounds
like hocus pocause it sounds almost like high school ball.
But literally that's been the main thing. Let's just see
we can out effort people and see what it looks
like at the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, I think if you look at the Indianapolis side
of things, lost two really really close games here, so
the team was absolutely hummed. They've got a couple losses
in a row. At last week's game. To me, Buck,
they third downs, you know, and I know Daniel Jones
is not fully fully healthy, but they've got to be
better on third downs. And I look at this Jacksonville
pass rush, it's got to heat it up a little bit.
(10:23):
That's going to be the game to make is can
the Colts be better on third down than they've been?
Can Daniel Jones make the throws and needs to make
and then can this Jacksonville pass rush get ready to
heat him up?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, I mean that desk would be a big part
of it, but I would say before you can even
get to that, you have to stop Jonathan Taylor. Like
Johnathan Taylor is the guy that leads the league in
rushing yards per game. He's a home rent hitter. You
think about the number of big plays that he's been
able to produce this year. He says to table, and
you have to commit all your resources to be able
to defend him, which makes life easy for Daniel Jones.
(10:54):
The teams that have been successful against the Coals have
forced Daniel Jones out of his comfort zone from being
a guy who is managing the game to now someone
who has to be a game changer, someone who has
to really impact the game and become the playmaker. But
the only way that you can do that is you
got to take twenty eight away. You can't allow him
to have success early where they can utilize the running game,
(11:17):
that can stay on schedule, they can use play action
in those things. You got to bottle them up and
you got to say, hey man, we're gonna make Daniel
Jones beat us if he has to throw for three
point fifty, he's gonna have to throw for three to fifty.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
But we're not gonna let twenty eight get loose.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, well, it's easier said than done. Right, When he's rolling,
he doesn't need a lot of carriers to do a
lot of damage. I mean he just takes one, he
pop one, and then you're in some trouble. And I
saw that up close and personal this year. By the way,
this is the first two right, they have not played yet,
so we get two of these meetings coming down the
home stretcher with Jackson gold Indy.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah quick, I mean quick turnaround, maybe like within two
or three weeks of each other, like played this week
and then come back in two weeks after the Demmer
game they play again.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
All right, so this is the way. This is a
weird analogy, but you got the Chiefs and the Texans.
This to me feels like when I was a kid
I used to watch wrestling. I haven't watch wrestling along us,
but I was a kid the loser leaf talent. But
I don't necessarily think that because I think Houston's still
in it. I think this is everything on the line
for Kansas City. What this feels like to me, Buck
is when you have the like a tag match with
(12:19):
like four versus four, and you just feel like the
one guy has been stuck out there for the one
group and he and they just keep tagging in new bodies,
and I feel like the Houston Texans get to come
in when a little wobbly, a wobbly opponent who hasn't
been able to tap out you know who's lost offensive lineman.
And it's like, and if I'm the Chiefs, then you
(12:41):
don't make a habit of doubt in the Chiefs because
they always seem to come through.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But if you gave me a list.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
A menu with where they are right now, knowing they
need to run the table and they can't afford to
slip up, the Houston Texans current version would be the
last team that I would.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Want to face at this point in time. Yes, the
last team did you want to face?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
But then maybe the team that you want to face
because they're good and maybe you rise to the occasion.
I'll say this, and looking at the Texans up close
and personal defense block them. Yeah, defensively, man, they are
everything that you want in a championship level defense.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
They're fast, they're physical.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Everybody all eleven tackle and they not only tackle in
terms of getting you to the ground, they tackle with force.
They are a very physical football team that's amped up
and then up from Will Anderson Daniel Hunter. We talked
about combined for twenty one and a half sacks. The
way that they're able to get it. Will Anderson even
being better than I thought in terms of the way
(13:34):
they're moving him around and putting him on the fish
on the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Man. This is a very active and aggressive.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Defense that is built in the image of his head coach,
Jamiko Rants. They are just a tough, nasty bunch, and
offensively they're beginning to find their way.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
If they had a little more consistency on the run,
it would kind of help them open up the passing game.
But they're getting better.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Look, this is a team that's we all say this
day every team, Oh, you don't want to play them.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I'm just telling you right now, that's the one for me.
You don't you don't want them on your line.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
You don't want them on your bracket line when you
look up like oh, because defensively, they can keep themselves
in every game if they get just enough offense and you.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Know, for a long day. Yeah, no, one hundred percent true.
Let's take quick break. We'll get into a couple more
games raft for this. There's some really good games this
week when you look at the schedule here, Buck, I
want to pick out a couple more Bears Packers, and
they're going to face off again in two weeks. So
this is like a little series here, a little mini
series we're gonna see with these two teams.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, no, this is this is interesting because you know,
Ben Johnson poked the Bear a little bit when he
got the job, talked about the Packers and.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The series and those things, and talking about Matt Lafleur
by name. Yeah, I love beating him. It turns out
they're not friends. It's not like this is a buddy
like jab jab jab. This is like, no, I don't
really know him. It's gonna name for him.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, not the greatest, not the greatest way, but hey,
own it on being the villain.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
If you're going to be the heel began with the
Black Bear and all the other stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Hoko maniacs get after it. But what I do like
about what the Bears have done.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Coming on the heels of knocking off the Eagles, They're
gonna have a lot of confidence and the ability to
run the football is real because they moved and uprooted
the Eagles off the line of scrimmage. This is one
where the Packer's defense is going to be tested, and
Michael Parsons in particularly is going to have to be
solid not only as a pass rusher, but as a
run defender for the Bears. On defense, they take the
ball away, they are obsessed. We're taking the ball away
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and so Jordan Love's gonna have to take care of it.
They are about as evenly matched as we've seen these
teams in the last few years. This is the execution game.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, one hundred percent. It's an execution game.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I want to I want to get to back to
what we're talking about with the coaches though, because I
was thinking about this and whether it's your coach or
your quarterback from a leadership standpoint, is there something to
be said, Buck, And maybe you could talk about some
of the team you've been around.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I know I've been around some as.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, but to take over a bad team, you almost
need somebody who's brash like nonsensical. We've talked about it
with hardball going to Stanford and it's like, what does
he talk There's no way they can do what he's
saying they're going to do. How about Kurt Kurt Signetti,
he goes and does what he's done at at Indiana
Clark Lee at his opening press conference, don't know if
you remember this, he said, Vanderbilt, we're going to be the.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Will be the number one team. We're gonna be a powerhouse,
the best program in the country is what he said.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They hadn't wanted they had had a winning season in
nine years when he got there, like you almost had
think about I mean even like his quarterback Diego Pabia,
like you have to have a nonsensical belief and think
about how bad the Bears have been. And he walked
in there and I'm laughing about you named checking the
Packers head coach in his press conference.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Well there's something to that.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
In Kansas City, Marty Schottenheimer was probably the most confident
coach that I've ever been around in terms of just
boldly proclaiming, hey man, we're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
This e We're gonna get it done.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Like just just did that and DG there's something that
comes with it when your coach boldly puts it out there, like, man,
this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
We're gonna beat the breaks off this team. We're gonna
get after it. We have to do these things. But
if we do these things, the results.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
So you have to be a little delusional to be
effected when you're taking over and transforming a downtrodden program.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Ben Johnson has done that, and I'm gonna say that,
like even the little quirky.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Thing, did they chant at the end of games and
all that, like you saw our first hand with Jim
Harbaugh and stuff. Did they do like they have a
self assuredness about them that makes you believe that the
message is gonna work. This is a big test for
them because yet now you called them out. So now
that you called him out, you got to deliver. It's
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all the emotion and stuff is gonna be there. But yeah,
you call them out, you definitely have to deliver.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Two of the best defensive coaches I've been around or
got to know was Rex who was uber obviously still
is like uber confident and people will say arrogant and
Jim Schwartz same way, and these guys always have great defenses.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
But I mean, I just think there is something too.
There's a brashness to it.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's so competitive and there's such few slim margins.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I should say that. I think that counts for something. Man,
it does.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I call it competitive arrogance where you are willing to
go to that line because you look, you're all day
competitive for the ball down, let's go. I think maybe
I've seen too many old miss videos because your thing
is spot the ball, the ball down, this, let's do
going on or whatever, like there there is something too
(18:34):
that when we were scouting Fresnoe State, was anybody, any time, anyplace,
you know, like like.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
There is something to it. We don't care who it is,
you're coming to get this.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I'm excited to see it because that game last week
Black Friday game for the Bears that was kind of
like diminster, like, oh, they're for real if they knock
off the Packers. The conversation is completely different about the
Bears going into the tournament.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
And again we'd see that matchup twice, so that's going
to be fun twice in three weeks I believe, so
looking forward to that game one other game with two
division leaders, it feels weird because it doesn't feel like
either one of these teams has been all that consistent
or good. And that's the Steelers and the Ravens. With
a lot on the line in this one, yeah so
so much. Man, this is a hard one to handicap.
Like I was doing the preview picks shopping and I
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was like, man, I have no idea whether to go.
None of them have momentum.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
The Ravens give away one when we thought they were
back and whenever, and then the Bengals smoked them, and
then still has just looked terrible in.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Their last game.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Normally I would hang my hat on the defense, but
both defenses have been bad. So then it comes down
to who do you believe can fix the problems?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
And did I have no idea? I literally have no idea.
When I look at both of these teams, they're the same.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I would say that the nod for the Ravens comes
down to Lamar Jackson and his ability to make plays.
You believe in his ability at quarterback to make more
plays than Aaron Rodgers. But I don't really have a
leg to stand when it comes to picking the Ravens
or the Steelers or vice versa.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, defense was so bad, I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I mean, I mean, I like, I believe in like
the the foundation of the Steelers, and I believe in
Mike Common all stuff. But I'm like cash Cas, you
gotta get me something to go off of here with
this defense man, And there's just nothing's not been good man.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I mean the Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo ran through them.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
With backup tackles and ran the same two to three
plays over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Like it's hard to have a lot of confidence that
I did, man, if you can't fix it. And then
you look at the Ravens. The Ravens are right there.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
They work so hard to get to a point where
they can just run through the division, and then they
lay an egg against the Bengals where they had a
lot of self inflicted mistakes.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I just I don't know. I worry about their maturity
when it comes to being a championship team. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I mean, they're probably the better one on paper, but
I have nothing, nothing that I can give you on it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
The one I do those same picks that was a
plug your nose and just pick the Ravens on that one.
I was like, I I don't love love any part
of this game, but I'll take I'll take the Ravens to.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Get that one done. Last one.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Those Bengals you just mentioned, they got the inverse record
of the eight and four Bills. But the Bengals with
Joe Burrow, it's not a four to eight team, not
a team.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And I would anticipate him being even more comfortable because
he eats. His game changed from the first half to
the second half. As he settled in, you can get
a much better version. And because they're so explosive and
dynamic on offense, man, they can put you in this
thing where you're gonna shoot out and you don't even
want to engage in one against him.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And the ability to set the term.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Terms with their offense makes them dangerous. And if they
can just get one or two stops and I'll go
and plan for a stop or two, they can be
a difference.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
First one to thirty five wins. That's That's where I'm
going on that one. I think that game gets in
the thirties for both those teams. So I think the
Bengals keep it close by. I'll go with the Bills
on that one.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, I'm with you, like it has to. I think
the Bibles are the better team.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
They understand what they're up against, and with the Patriots
kind of running away with division, Bill has got a
hon rup make sure they get into the tournament.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, I know, I know we have.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Another show coming up before we have the money in
that game, but man, we can hit on that one briefly.
Buck the the Eagles coming into so far taking on
the Chargers at it, it has the feel of a
very big game for both these teams.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, it is. It's a huge game.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Like the Eagles are dysfunctional as all get out, so
you want about the mental state coming into it. The
Charges to worry is about Justin Herban and every expectation
that he's going to show up and play and do
those things. To me, man, this is a desperation game
for the Eagles because I feel like if they lose
this game, I think.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
This season as Dallas is right there and this feels
that they've had a collapse before, it starts to feel
like that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But yeah, yeah, I think I think I think it
could be like that. So I think the charges have
all the advantage. I'm looking at the charges to get
the death.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
They have no doubt.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
All right, well we'll be We're back on Monday with Baldi.
We'll recap all these ballgames. Looking forward to that show.
We'll look forward to having you guys with us. We'll
see you next time.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Right here on, move the sticks.
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ and
Buck with you. Buck, what is going on? Man? Looks
like you made it back home here I did.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm back. Everything is good. Look, man, I'm coming off
signing and day and all this other stuff. It's kind
of bananas.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna have a great episode by
the way, coming up with great McElroy.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So encourage you guys. Check that one out.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
ESPN College Football analyst, smart guy, former quarterback who's gonna
have a great a great handle on some of these
changes that have taken place.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm really look forward to that Chatbuck, because the.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
College world that we knew and the college world that
exists now it's two different things.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Entertaining Like people can say there's I would say, this
is an argument and we'll get all to this with
with macelroy. But there's people that say this is good.
There's people that say that this is bad, and there's
disagreement there. What you you have to agree on. This
whole thing is kind of entertaining, Buck, I mean, like
it is a wild West, Man.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It has definitely become very entertaining when you think about
all the things that are college football.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm not gonna lie dj I set up.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I mean, we talked about always having an affinity for
these days, signing days, looking at recruiting classes, all that
other stuff. Because the names that you begin to hear
about today, we're going to talk about tomorrow down the line.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And you know, I was fascinated.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I had a chance to listen to Carolina and Michae
Lombardi and Bill Belichick talk about all the things that
they were doing and they signed thirty nine guys. Thirty
nine guys in the class when you and I were
coming out, it was twenty to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, like that's it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Thirty nine guys coming in at one time is ridiculous.
And to hear, you know, them talking about grading scale
and all this other stuff. I was texting with our
buddy Lake Dawson, who's at OU with Jim nagging. He's
just talking about how wild it is, like it is
just a different thing.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And you're right. The biggest move that has happened.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Has become the general manager at the collegiate level, and
many different things that you are handling as it relates
to personnel scouting, their version of the salary cap with
revenue share and everything.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's a lot to deal with, man and even bigger
rosters than you're used to dealing with when you were
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, it's a lot to handle on. I think we're
seeing a lot of our buddies in the NFL world
that are finding out there's a lot of opportunity in
college to run. You know, you're running a franchise. It's
not just a you know, college football program. You're running
a franchise.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, I mean you are. I mean and dependent on
the way that is structured.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Sometimes the coach actually reports to the general manager, not
just the ad like, it's a different thing. We're seeing
that take place at Cal with Ron River taking over
as the general manager and having look the power this
way to make hires and fires in those things. It's
just a different thing. I will be glad when it
kind of settles and we have kind of like what
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the league has, like a set of regulations where everyone knows.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Exactly what the rules are.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
This is still a little too chaotic kind of frenzy
for me, but it's fun. I mean, it's fun to watch,
it's fun to kind of check it out, but it's
a different world.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, it's interesting. I was I was thinking about, I
want to get a draft thing here before we get
to some previews for these games coming up this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But I wanted to look at it.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Looking at last year's draft, the twenty five draft, and
I was going through it, and we went quarterback, two
way player in Travis Hunter, pass rusher, tackle, defensive tackle,
running back, tackle, receiver, offensive tackle, tight end.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
So a couple interesting things in there.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Number one is we had a running back and a
tight end that went in the top ten, which would
fly in the face of the you know, positional value,
you know commentary that we've seen over the years, over
the last few years. But also to me, I'm curious.
You know, we saw the three receivers go a few
years or the year before that, right because you had
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Harrison elite neighbors and a doonsay all boom boom boom.
Brian Thomas Junr went a little bit later on in
that first round. But as I'm starting to work my
way through the draft stuff, and I'm starting to look
at some grades as I'm putting them in on these
guys and like, just for example, like the Ohio State
receiver and the us C receiver grade wise, they're going
to be all the way up there for me. And
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then I'm reading an article about George Pickens and they're
saying that he's you know, this could be a something.
It was an article about the value that he brings
and it said on his next deal he should be
hunting for like thirty two million ONT of annual value.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So I'm sitting here and going.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, I don't have to struggle to justify taking a
wide receiver up there at this point in time, especially
when they're clean, clean players.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It has become such the I mean the swing, the
pendulum swing in terms of the value of the wide
receiver has been remarkable now that I.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Like Tim, just over the last decade in terms of
how people viewed receivers, how we draft receivers, and more importantly,
how we're paying receivers. We were both scouting when they
had that draft where all the running backs Cedric Benson,
Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams all went two, three, and four,
not necessarily in the order that I listed them.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
All, but I remember that I remember how valuable. The
running backs are now to think that wide receivers have
become marquee names that you prioritize within the top ten
because they're that important.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And we're potentially talking about I mean, the Eagles have
done it. The Eagles are operating with two number ones.
The Bengals in essence have a one A and one
B with T Higgins. The Cowboys could potentially go down
that line with CD Lamb and George Pickens DJ. They
are premier positions on the perimeter. And yeah, it's crazy
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because you're going to either have to draft one and
pay one or you're gonna have to pay two. That's
the league that we're going to in terms.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Of how market and how essential they are to the
team building post. So, if you look at the projected
franchise tender numbers for next year, so this is a
franchise tag number, what it would look like right now,
Quarterbacks is thirty nine point seven million, offensive line is
twenty four point six, wide receiver twenty four point three.
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So Fuck's that tells you everything right there, that's where
the value is.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
The value is that, So you have to do it
and people are going to have to make those decisions.
So we talk about Jordan tys and or Cardinal Tat
or whoever these guys are that we're talking about first
round grades.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, we have to be comfortable seeing them just building
names off the thing, because they're coming off the board
a tremendous amount of value.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Man, when you look at the savings that you're getting
by getting one of those guys in cost control here
for four or five years, that's pretty darn valuable when
you look at it. Let's get into some of these
games here this weekend. Let's start first of all, your
game Indy Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Huge game. Huge game. Yeah, a huge game, and I'm
so curious to see it.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Last year you had to go through this a little
bit with the charge of like watching them play in
a big game with a new crew. I'm curious to
see what the team Isn't exactly young, but I'm want
to see what a team that is getting used to
winning and a new.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Coaching death, how they handle what will be a big game.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And even though everyone will say, hey, it's only the
big game because the next game, No, this is a
big game because it has legitimate implications.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So how do you approach that game? Do you do
things differently.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Do you continue to do the things that you've done
well and say that we're going to out execute the
team regardless of whether a different strategy might be best
against them.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm just curious to see how it plays out.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And if everybody involved, coaches and players, can make it
the same kind of game that has been for the
first twelve thirteen weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, you look at your team here in Jacksonville. You
work on those broadcasts for the last five with wins,
the only lost being a thirty six twenty nine loss
to Houston. What you could say was one that you
almost gave away.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, gave away for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So I mean you're looking at a team that's really
as hot as anybody right now. And I saw it
in person when they hammer the Chargers thirty five to
six after that game in Houston. What do you think
was the major change in terms of this run that
they're on. What's been the difference this over to quarterback first?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And the numbers aren't going to justify what I'm about
to say, but I would say that Liam Coyn has
tried to get the quarterback to really let it rip.
And I know you've played the position. And I don't
know if you've ever had the one.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Coach that believes in you enough to be like, hey, man,
let it go, don't worry about.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
The mistakes, like just the push the envelope. See where
the lines are so you can figure out.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And it really reminded me of what any Reed did
with Pat Mahomes on the practice field rookie season. Man,
make all the throws. See where those boundaries are for you,
so when you get into the game you know exactly what.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
You can and what you can't do. Liam Cohn has
tried to get Trevor to operate and play like that.
Be fearless, not reckless, Be fearless in terms of I'm
gonna make these players. I'm gonna make these throws. I'm
gonna try and fit it in the type windows. I'm
gonna let it go before the wide receivers open, and
not worry. Oh it needs to be fully clean before
I do it, because that's the only way the great
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ones operate.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And so that has been better for him.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
He's had ten total touchdowns since they've had that conversation. Defensively,
they've been able to get more into paint. Josh Anzellen
has five and a half sacks over the last five games.
He beginning to play better and overall, DJ I think
they've just kind of scaled it back. They put the
young guys on the field, and they've just really made
it a game where it's about how hard can you play?
Can you just play harder, longer than the opponent and
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don't worry what the score looks like And it sounds
like hocus pocause it sounds almost like high school ball.
But literally that's been the main thing. Let's just see
we can out effort people and see what it looks
like at the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, I think if you look at the Indianapolis side
of things, lost two really really close games here, so
the team was absolutely hummed. They've got a couple losses
in a row. At last week's game. To me, Buck,
they third downs, you know, and I know Daniel Jones
is not fully fully healthy, but they've got to be
better on third downs. And I look at this Jacksonville
pass rush, it's got to heat it up a little bit.
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That's going to be the game to make is can
the Colts be better on third down than they've been?
Can Daniel Jones make the throws and needs to make
and then can this Jacksonville pass rush get ready to
heat him up?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, I mean that desk would be a big part
of it, but I would say before you can even
get to that, you have to stop Jonathan Taylor. Like
Johnathan Taylor is the guy that leads the league in
rushing yards per game. He's a home rent hitter. You
think about the number of big plays that he's been
able to produce this year. He says to table, and
you have to commit all your resources to be able
to defend him, which makes life easy for Daniel Jones.
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The teams that have been successful against the Coals have
forced Daniel Jones out of his comfort zone from being
a guy who is managing the game to now someone
who has to be a game changer, someone who has
to really impact the game and become the playmaker. But
the only way that you can do that is you
got to take twenty eight away. You can't allow him
to have success early where they can utilize the running game,
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that can stay on schedule, they can use play action
in those things. You got to bottle them up and
you got to say, hey man, we're gonna make Daniel
Jones beat us if he has to throw for three
point fifty, he's gonna have to throw for three to fifty.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
But we're not gonna let twenty eight get loose.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, well, it's easier said than done. Right, When he's rolling,
he doesn't need a lot of carriers to do a
lot of damage. I mean he just takes one, he
pop one, and then you're in some trouble. And I
saw that up close and personal this year. By the way,
this is the first two right, they have not played yet,
so we get two of these meetings coming down the
home stretcher with Jackson gold Indy.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah quick, I mean quick turnaround, maybe like within two
or three weeks of each other, like played this week
and then come back in two weeks after the Demmer
game they play again.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
All right, so this is the way. This is a
weird analogy, but you got the Chiefs and the Texans.
This to me feels like when I was a kid
I used to watch wrestling. I haven't watch wrestling along us,
but I was a kid the loser leaf talent. But
I don't necessarily think that because I think Houston's still
in it. I think this is everything on the line
for Kansas City. What this feels like to me, Buck
is when you have the like a tag match with
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like four versus four, and you just feel like the
one guy has been stuck out there for the one
group and he and they just keep tagging in new bodies,
and I feel like the Houston Texans get to come
in when a little wobbly, a wobbly opponent who hasn't
been able to tap out you know who's lost offensive lineman.
And it's like, and if I'm the Chiefs, then you
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don't make a habit of doubt in the Chiefs because
they always seem to come through.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But if you gave me a list.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
A menu with where they are right now, knowing they
need to run the table and they can't afford to
slip up, the Houston Texans current version would be the
last team that I would.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Want to face at this point in time. Yes, the
last team did you want to face?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
But then maybe the team that you want to face
because they're good and maybe you rise to the occasion.
I'll say this, and looking at the Texans up close
and personal defense block them. Yeah, defensively, man, they are
everything that you want in a championship level defense.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
They're fast, they're physical.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Everybody all eleven tackle and they not only tackle in
terms of getting you to the ground, they tackle with force.
They are a very physical football team that's amped up
and then up from Will Anderson Daniel Hunter. We talked
about combined for twenty one and a half sacks. The
way that they're able to get it. Will Anderson even
being better than I thought in terms of the way
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they're moving him around and putting him on the fish
on the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Man. This is a very active and aggressive.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Defense that is built in the image of his head coach,
Jamiko Rants. They are just a tough, nasty bunch, and
offensively they're beginning to find their way.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
If they had a little more consistency on the run,
it would kind of help them open up the passing game.
But they're getting better.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Look, this is a team that's we all say this
day every team, Oh, you don't want to play them.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I'm just telling you right now, that's the one for me.
You don't you don't want them on your line.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
You don't want them on your bracket line when you
look up like oh, because defensively, they can keep themselves
in every game if they get just enough offense and you.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Know, for a long day. Yeah, no, one hundred percent true.
Let's take quick break. We'll get into a couple more
games raft for this. There's some really good games this
week when you look at the schedule here, Buck, I
want to pick out a couple more Bears Packers, and
they're going to face off again in two weeks. So
this is like a little series here, a little mini
series we're gonna see with these two teams.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, no, this is this is interesting because you know,
Ben Johnson poked the Bear a little bit when he
got the job, talked about the Packers and.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The series and those things, and talking about Matt Lafleur
by name. Yeah, I love beating him. It turns out
they're not friends. It's not like this is a buddy
like jab jab jab. This is like, no, I don't
really know him. It's gonna name for him.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, not the greatest, not the greatest way, but hey,
own it on being the villain.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
If you're going to be the heel began with the
Black Bear and all the other stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Hoko maniacs get after it. But what I do like
about what the Bears have done.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Coming on the heels of knocking off the Eagles, They're
gonna have a lot of confidence and the ability to
run the football is real because they moved and uprooted
the Eagles off the line of scrimmage. This is one
where the Packer's defense is going to be tested, and
Michael Parsons in particularly is going to have to be
solid not only as a pass rusher, but as a
run defender for the Bears. On defense, they take the
ball away, they are obsessed. We're taking the ball away
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and so Jordan Love's gonna have to take care of it.
They are about as evenly matched as we've seen these
teams in the last few years. This is the execution game.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, one hundred percent. It's an execution game.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I want to I want to get to back to
what we're talking about with the coaches though, because I
was thinking about this and whether it's your coach or
your quarterback from a leadership standpoint, is there something to
be said, Buck, And maybe you could talk about some
of the team you've been around.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I know I've been around some as.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, but to take over a bad team, you almost
need somebody who's brash like nonsensical. We've talked about it
with hardball going to Stanford and it's like, what does
he talk There's no way they can do what he's
saying they're going to do. How about Kurt Kurt Signetti,
he goes and does what he's done at at Indiana
Clark Lee at his opening press conference, don't know if
you remember this, he said, Vanderbilt, we're going to be the.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Will be the number one team. We're gonna be a powerhouse,
the best program in the country is what he said.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They hadn't wanted they had had a winning season in
nine years when he got there, like you almost had
think about I mean even like his quarterback Diego Pabia,
like you have to have a nonsensical belief and think
about how bad the Bears have been. And he walked
in there and I'm laughing about you named checking the
Packers head coach in his press conference.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Well there's something to that.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
In Kansas City, Marty Schottenheimer was probably the most confident
coach that I've ever been around in terms of just
boldly proclaiming, hey man, we're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
This e We're gonna get it done.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Like just just did that and DG there's something that
comes with it when your coach boldly puts it out there, like, man,
this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
We're gonna beat the breaks off this team. We're gonna
get after it. We have to do these things. But
if we do these things, the results.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
So you have to be a little delusional to be
effected when you're taking over and transforming a downtrodden program.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Ben Johnson has done that, and I'm gonna say that,
like even the little quirky.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Thing, did they chant at the end of games and
all that, like you saw our first hand with Jim
Harbaugh and stuff. Did they do like they have a
self assuredness about them that makes you believe that the
message is gonna work. This is a big test for
them because yet now you called them out. So now
that you called him out, you got to deliver. It's
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all the emotion and stuff is gonna be there. But yeah,
you call them out, you definitely have to deliver.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Two of the best defensive coaches I've been around or
got to know was Rex who was uber obviously still
is like uber confident and people will say arrogant and
Jim Schwartz same way, and these guys always have great defenses.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
But I mean, I just think there is something too.
There's a brashness to it.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's so competitive and there's such few slim margins.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I should say that. I think that counts for something. Man,
it does.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I call it competitive arrogance where you are willing to
go to that line because you look, you're all day
competitive for the ball down, let's go. I think maybe
I've seen too many old miss videos because your thing
is spot the ball, the ball down, this, let's do
going on or whatever, like there there is something too
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that when we were scouting Fresnoe State, was anybody, any time, anyplace,
you know, like like.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
There is something to it. We don't care who it is,
you're coming to get this.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I'm excited to see it because that game last week
Black Friday game for the Bears that was kind of
like diminster, like, oh, they're for real if they knock
off the Packers. The conversation is completely different about the
Bears going into the tournament.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
And again we'd see that matchup twice, so that's going
to be fun twice in three weeks I believe, so
looking forward to that game one other game with two
division leaders, it feels weird because it doesn't feel like
either one of these teams has been all that consistent
or good. And that's the Steelers and the Ravens. With
a lot on the line in this one, yeah so
so much. Man, this is a hard one to handicap.
Like I was doing the preview picks shopping and I
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was like, man, I have no idea whether to go.
None of them have momentum.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
The Ravens give away one when we thought they were
back and whenever, and then the Bengals smoked them, and
then still has just looked terrible in.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Their last game.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Normally I would hang my hat on the defense, but
both defenses have been bad. So then it comes down
to who do you believe can fix the problems?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
And did I have no idea? I literally have no idea.
When I look at both of these teams, they're the same.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I would say that the nod for the Ravens comes
down to Lamar Jackson and his ability to make plays.
You believe in his ability at quarterback to make more
plays than Aaron Rodgers. But I don't really have a
leg to stand when it comes to picking the Ravens
or the Steelers or vice versa.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, defense was so bad, I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I mean, I mean, I like, I believe in like
the the foundation of the Steelers, and I believe in
Mike Common all stuff. But I'm like cash Cas, you
gotta get me something to go off of here with
this defense man, And there's just nothing's not been good man.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I mean the Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo ran through them.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
With backup tackles and ran the same two to three
plays over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Like it's hard to have a lot of confidence that
I did, man, if you can't fix it. And then
you look at the Ravens. The Ravens are right there.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
They work so hard to get to a point where
they can just run through the division, and then they
lay an egg against the Bengals where they had a
lot of self inflicted mistakes.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I just I don't know. I worry about their maturity
when it comes to being a championship team. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I mean, they're probably the better one on paper, but
I have nothing, nothing that I can give you on it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
The one I do those same picks that was a
plug your nose and just pick the Ravens on that one.
I was like, I I don't love love any part
of this game, but I'll take I'll take the Ravens to.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Get that one done. Last one.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Those Bengals you just mentioned, they got the inverse record
of the eight and four Bills. But the Bengals with
Joe Burrow, it's not a four to eight team, not
a team.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And I would anticipate him being even more comfortable because
he eats. His game changed from the first half to
the second half. As he settled in, you can get
a much better version. And because they're so explosive and
dynamic on offense, man, they can put you in this
thing where you're gonna shoot out and you don't even
want to engage in one against him.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And the ability to set the term.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Terms with their offense makes them dangerous. And if they
can just get one or two stops and I'll go
and plan for a stop or two, they can be
a difference.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
First one to thirty five wins. That's That's where I'm
going on that one. I think that game gets in
the thirties for both those teams. So I think the
Bengals keep it close by. I'll go with the Bills
on that one.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, I'm with you, like it has to. I think
the Bibles are the better team.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
They understand what they're up against, and with the Patriots
kind of running away with division, Bill has got a
hon rup make sure they get into the tournament.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, I know, I know we have.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Another show coming up before we have the money in
that game, but man, we can hit on that one briefly.
Buck the the Eagles coming into so far taking on
the Chargers at it, it has the feel of a
very big game for both these teams.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, it is. It's a huge game.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Like the Eagles are dysfunctional as all get out, so
you want about the mental state coming into it. The
Charges to worry is about Justin Herban and every expectation
that he's going to show up and play and do
those things. To me, man, this is a desperation game
for the Eagles because I feel like if they lose
this game, I think.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
This season as Dallas is right there and this feels
that they've had a collapse before, it starts to feel
like that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But yeah, yeah, I think I think I think it
could be like that. So I think the charges have
all the advantage. I'm looking at the charges to get
the death.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
They have no doubt.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
All right, well we'll be We're back on Monday with Baldi.
We'll recap all these ballgames. Looking forward to that show.
We'll look forward to having you guys with us. We'll
see you next time.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Right here on, move the sticks.
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