December 2, 2025 • 24 mins
Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks make their Week 14 Rookie Draft picks (0:00) before diving into the state of college football coaching in 2025 (4:20). They weigh in on Lane Kiffin’s move from Ole Miss to LSU and break down the other key hires and shifts from this year’s coaching carousel. (11:59)
Move the Sticks is a part of the NFL Podcasts Network.
NOTE: Timecodes approximate
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
All right, Buck, we've got some great news to announce
here to everybody. And that is not that Rhett is
not here. That's not the great news. The great news
is the reason that Rett is not here. So him
and his wife Kana welcomed a beautiful baby girl, Cody
(00:23):
Lee Kleinschmidt. She was born one thirty eight am on
the first so great birthday, December one, six pounds twelve ounce,
is nineteen and a half inches long. I love that stuff,
sent me beautiful picture. So baby's healthy, Mom's healthy, and
so happy for Reddy.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
He's got a couple of.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Boys, so now he adds a girl to the mix.
And that is also it's gonna hurt him a little bit, Buck,
because he's crushing us right now in the rookie in
the rookie draft and the rookie fantasy league that we're playing.
He's gonna have to take a little hiatus and rely
on me.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Happen here, Oh, we'll see. I thought under the rules,
the praternity rules to like he does praternity, like he
doesn't get a chance to do anything, like he's out. Yeah,
he also gets say test until he goes back.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, that would have been nice. It would helped us
catch up because right now he's at sixty two points.
I'm at forty nine, Buck, you're at forty five. I mean,
this is getting out of control here. He's not good
coming off last week. He had Judkins who got him
some first place points at the running back position. He
had Higgins got him some first place points at the
receiver position, and then he got a second place point
(01:33):
there with love one at the tight end spot. So
he had seven points last week you had four. I
only had one. So it is unfortunately it's tightening up
between me and you, but we're nowhere near where we
need to be in terms of catching rep. And as
we sit today here he has the second pick. You
are first. I am third. We have no Carolina so
(01:55):
no Tedoro McMillan, no New England. So the hottest you
know running back in Henderson and he's not in the mix.
No Giants, no San Francisco. So those are teams on
the Byebuck and you have the first overall pick.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Here we go ooh, I've been doing this for so
long that I can't I can't do it. So I
need a running back. My guy Henderson is out by
asking Genty doesn't give me anything, but gosh, let's go
with Let's go with Aston Genty because I don't have
wha first pick?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
All right, all right, Gavin, you're up here for for Rett.
Who do you want to go? I throw it in
the chat. He's going to go Judkins facing the Titans.
That was going to be my pick. That's kick. That's
a kick to the.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's hard and hard to run against the Titan hard
to run against the Titans. Tea.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, So we got two running backs, so I don't
need to worry about the running backs. I can go
to my tight ends and my receivers. So let's go
for my tight end pick. I'm actually going to go Loveland.
Oh see see I couldn't go. I was trying to
have to go Tyler Warren against the Jacks like this. Yeah,
now you're gonna you might have to, but I'm gonna
(03:02):
go with Loveland at tight end, and then receiver wise, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Gonna go Buka. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So now Gavin is Gavin's back up for Reht He's
gonna go Higgins. So he's going back to the.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well there, So I'm gonna go warn and in any
rookie receiver, receiver who want to put in receiver? I mean,
I guess yeah, I can try that. I'll try Luther.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Burton, Luther Bury, we try it, all right, So you
go Luther Burden, and then Gav's gonna go Gadston for
the tight end spot there. And then I'm gonna finish
things up and I'm gonna go r J. Harvey against
the fighting Las Vegas Raiders. So great about that pick.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
This is your week man, every week, every week.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Every You know, Ret's just gonna complain if we somehow
get back into this thing.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Because.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I could be there. That's why you guys cut up
to me. So I ended up with Lovelin, Abuka and Harvey.
Rhett ended up with Judkins, Higgins and Gadsden and Buck.
You ended up with gent Warren and Burden. So there's
our there's our rookie draft here. We'll see how this
thing goes, see if we can close this thing down
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
We got to get to some college coaching stuff, and
as we do that, I want to tell you I
was talking to a power fore head coach the other
day on the phone, and I said, what part of
the like, what's your least favorite part of this gig
right now with how this whole thing is set up?
And he goes, I'll rank it for you. What's that
He goes, My least favorite is retention, is having to
(04:43):
retain your own players and those conversations and guys, you know,
not happy with their money and I got you know,
you've got agents calling you and saying we've already got X,
Y and Z lined up from other places, so you
match it. Rely said, that's my least favorite part of
the job right now. It's actually roster retin. He said.
Second least favorite part is the nil just in terms
(05:06):
of going out and doing that yourself, going out and
getting players from other spots, like that free agency aspect
of it. He said. Ironically, the easiest part of this
job right now is high school recruiting. So that's the
easy part. That used to be what all these coaches
would complain about was, oh, man, if I could just
be in the NFL, I wouldn't have to recruit. Now,
like shoot, recruiting high school kids is the easiest part
(05:27):
of my job.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, DJ, I do wonder when the worm is going
to turn right. Like I think there's this instant fascination
early with like the portal and all that other stuff.
But I do wonder sometimes if you're taking on other
people's problems and if you're not taking on people's problems,
but if you're not getting that part of it is okay,
I get them, they have success with me, How do
I keep them? How do I continue to sustain what
(05:50):
I want to have in a program when it's so transient,
so many people coming in and out and doing all
that other stuff just makes it very, very difficult, No doubt.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Man, it's just a it's a whole new ball game.
But I want to get into some of these coaching
moves and get your thoughts on them, how you think
they fit. Start first of all, with the Lane Kiffin thing.
I mean, I'm I'm sorry. I'm not going to lend
my name to the outrage one way or the other.
There's people that hate Lane Kiff into this process. There's
people that think, you know, Lane Kiffin's a saint.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I don't really have a hot take on it either way.
It'd be tough for me to leave a team that
was going into the playoff, but he is the way
the calendar works, this is kind of the option that
you have, and he felt like he's got a better
chance to win a national championship there. I think that's
been proven. Although I think that college football is just
different now. I don't know that that standard holds the same.
I would say that my definition of pressure is the
(06:46):
cost is the cost per win? I think is pressure.
You know, in other words, you you pay it, you
get paid that much money. The expectations are very high
at that school and now it's man, you're not going
to be You're not going to be celebrated for winning
ten games and baton rouge. That's not what they care about.
They need a little bit more than that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, they need a little more of that. And so
it's a little walk on faith or leap of faith
for LSU to see if Lane can get there. Because
he doesn't have any tangible proof of being able to
do He doesn't happen on his board. Doesn't mean that
he can't do it because he's a hell of a recruiter,
does a really good job offenously getting him up and going.
But yeah, the pressure and the expectations there are crazy
(07:27):
and he has to do it. I do understand why
people are outraged, because man, this is the best season
that Old Miss has had, and all of the noise
around it over the last couple of weeks could have
derailed their opportunity to go. And they still may get
punished for him leaving when it comes to the seating
and those things. But it is what it is Pete
Golden to takeover. He'll have to figure out a way
(07:48):
to do it with a skeleton staff, particularly on offense.
But that's what it is and you have to figure
it out. I think the frustrating part when it comes
to Lane and going to you is okay, Like if
you love like the new opportunity, great, you say you
love Ole Miss. At least give them the best chance
(08:09):
to go. So if you go, you leave the offensive
staff there for a little bit so they can do it.
I think that is probably the thing is they won't
be the same team that they were when we see
them in the postseason. If they make the post I
assume they gonna make the playoff, but they won't be
the same team.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah. I also think the way that schedule went, they
dodged some bullets in terms of the SEC this year.
I didn't expect them if and they were going to
make some deep run in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I mean like it's the perfect storm, but you never know.
I mean, it is the perfect storm. It was a
perfect storm for the I'm at a high school game.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
This is a couple of weeks ago, and h it
was skill it Thanksgiving, so you had all the all
the high school kids or the college kids come home,
you know. So I'm at the high school game and
my daughter, who's graduated a couple of years ago. I
see her friend who was there, you know, watching some
of her younger friends play in this football game, and
she comes over it.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
She goes, mister Jerry, I go yeah, She goes, are
we going to keep our coach? So he goes to
old miss like, man, this boy, I said, I'm afraid
I got some bad news on that front.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I don't think you are.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
We'll see what happens, but unless something changes, I think
he's going to go to LSU. But I'm like, hey,
just be grateful you got you guys got to the playoff.
I think she was a freshman this year, like he
would you got to go to the Coech Football playoff
and if you get a home game, and if you
get a home game, it's gonna be bananas. Yeah. The
other thing I was thinking of with that move. You know,
there's always been this debate and USC's had some great
(09:31):
receivers and this goes back to Lane's time there when
he was coaching receivers, but the debate has always been,
oh is it Ohio State or LSU, Like, what's been
the premiere receiver factory. Well, Lane's had great receivers when
he was at USC, when he was at Alabama, elite
league receivers. He's had really good receivers at Old Miss
during his time there. And now he gets to go
(09:53):
to LSU where there's primo, primo kids coming out of
Louisiana and Florida every year, Like they are going to
have that's going to go back to what they had
when they had Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, all the like.
They are going to have a factory of elite, elite
wideouts with him at LSU.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I mean yeah, I mean you just have so many
guys that come through there. You talk about anywhere from
Odill Beckham, Junior, Jarvis Landry to the New School Justin Jefferson,
Jamar Chase and others Brian Thomas junior Eleague neighbors like
they've always had those guys, but Lane is proven to
showcase highlight wide receivers. He likes to throw the ball
out over the yard. It's gonna be exactly what LSU wants.
(10:31):
And it'd be funny because right now Ohio State is
wide receiver you in my estimation in terms of like
the amount of guys that are coming out there and
playing in the league. But it makes for a great conversation.
It's gonna be interesting to see who he ends up
getting down there, not only the guys straight from high school,
but the transfer kids. They come in there they want
to get showcase.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I know Michigan's won a national championship in the last
ten years without elite, elite wide receiver play, but that,
to me is one of the things about college football
that people don't talk about. Those lead Alabama teams had
big time receivers, Georgia had some big time receivers, and
if you throw Brock Bowers in there as well, like
big time passing game weapons. Ohio State on their run
awesome awesome wide receivers like that's a big component of
(11:13):
trying to win a national championship. Obviously, the LSU with
Burrow and those guys I just mentioned with just most
you ever since Jamar Chase all those guys like that's
an important position to be able to recruit and find
big time talent.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, because you've got to be able to have explosive plays.
The explosive plays matter. Way back in the day when
we used to have Brian Billick come on and he
would talk about the explosive play quote and how the
explosive plays are directly correlated to the amount of points
that you score. The receivers can deliver them. They can
give those game flipping play field flipping plays where twenty
(11:45):
forty yard passes, and they can do it in variety ways,
whether you run past year, they cass the screens and
move up and down the field. You have to have
at least one and preferably two when you're playing two
and three wide receivers all the time, you need to
have some game changes on the perim.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
All right, Buck, I want to give you a couple
of these hires and uh, and just tell me which
one you like the most or what you're excited about. Here.
We get John Sumrall, he goes to Florida from Tulane.
We get Alex Golish from South Florida, he goes to Auburn.
You get So those are the two, and then the
other one is someone in terms of stepping up a level,
(12:22):
Bob Chest and he goes from jmu Uh he goes
to U C.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
L A.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Those are some interesting ones of guys who've been successful
coaches and they're they're going up or rung on the
ladder here. I'm excited to see what those guys look like.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, it's interesting. Uh, first night man is two to
stand out. It's hardy to separate. I love Alice Goldish
going from ute, South Florida to Auburn. And the reason
why is because like having followed him, like being office
coordinated at Tennessee, like high powered offense is going tempo. Uh.
(12:55):
What he did is South Florida in terms of getting
them not only to be like a dynamic offense, but
they're tough and physicality. Seeing the press or seeing the
first meeting that they had at Auburn, process driven toughness.
We're all about it. Like I was buying in and
I believe at Auburn you absolutely have the ability to
be able to get it. It's just whether it be
patient enough to see him flip it and get it done.
(13:17):
John Somerral is a great coach, having watched Tulane, having
been down there, having seen how he's able to get
it done. He is a close friend. Evident I had
to notice of Liam Cohen and so that connectivity that
they have. But as he says, and I think this
works in Florida, he wants to be like Bob Stoops
was to Steve Spurrier. I want to be a defensive
(13:38):
minded guy who has an explosive offense that lights up scoreboards.
Florida is about winning, but you got to win with style.
And so I think both of those hires match where
they're going, and I think that's really, really, really important.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, I'll say too with John Sumrall and our friend
Dave Calwell, who's going to be the GM. Their retention roster, attention,
like they've got receiver backs, they've got a lot of
really really talented young skill players. We'll see what they
decide and what DJ Lagway decides. If there's better for
everybody if he moves on or better if they try
and give him a fresh voice and see if they
(14:15):
can get him to kind of play and perform up
to what his recruiting status was as one of the
top players in the country. So I'll interestly keep an
eye on that one. The UCLA one, to me is fascinating.
I don't know that that was a very attractive job
to a lot of people. But Bob Chesney, who's just continued,
I think he was holy crossed. Then James Madison is
a young guy, and that's been a obviously with Kurt Signetti,
(14:36):
JMU has been a place that's been a little bit
of a launching pad as of late.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, loshing pad. This dude is good man. He's a
really good coach, really excited about what he has an
opportunity to do with UCLA. And I think UCLA is
a program that has to think differently than some of
these other programs. They don't have all the resources, all
the things that are afforded to some of the other teams,
and so you have to have someone who has an
underdog's mentality but doesn't use that as an excuse. His
(15:01):
dynamic offense will be attractive and appealing to recruitse that
want to go to UCLA. What he's been able to
do his entire time. He's used to doing what we
talk about more with less. I think that'll work, and
that's a big thing. I look, these coaching hires are
funny because one, there's so many of them, Like I
didn't think the carousel would spin like his spinning. Or
(15:23):
we're talking about will Stein going to Kentucky. Offensive mine
who is from Kentucky, played at Louisville. Both parents wind
the Kentucky, so it's almost like a homecoming for him.
That is interesting to me. And then the one that
hasn't been settled, but the conversation that's going Penn State
and Sataki from BYU, Yeah, it's that really going to happen.
I love.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I think Colonie is a great coach. As we're recording this,
this might already be done, but it's not a fit
that came to mind immediately. But a guy's a darn
good coach.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Darn good coach. Now stylistically it fits because I think
what you would get is like that that old scrug
in State Bill. What I can believe is going to
happen is that BYU is going to let one of
their own leave and what has happened in the eleventh hour?
A lot I won. I didn't know that there were
a bunch of millionaires and billionaires associated with BYU.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Have you ever stated a Marriott before?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But evidently they've come out the droves to make sure, like,
hold on, we may have a little more money, so
it may not be a done deal. But that was
the biggest surprise in terms of the rumor meal that
was heating up, and I was like, oh, that is
a big one.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah again, I'm put in the chat the Crumble Cookies founder.
He's doing his best, and I sold a lot of cookies.
By the way, first time I ever had a Crumble Cookie.
I didn't know that. I had just heard about these things,
and I was getting my uh, I was getting some
tires and so I like a discount tire or something.
There was I saw a Crumble Cookie effort of this.
Everybody's talking about this place. So I went over there
and ate. So I get home and my wife goes like, oh,
(16:57):
you know, how was I'm like, you know, I went
over to Crumble Cookie while I was get them tires, So, oh,
what'd you think? I don't I actually kind of made
me sick.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't feel so good. So I don't understand, Like
did you just where's the rest of the cookie or whatever?
I go, what do you mean the rest of those
are for like four people? Those are like I'm like,
I thought that was just she's like four thousand calories.
You just ate with that thing. I'm like, no, wonder,
I feel so sick. Something was huge.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It's like a cookie cake.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Not one person is supposed to crush that thing. Apparently.
I think that was the one and done for me
on the crumbled cookie. And it's a great cookie. But
I overdid it. I just overdid it. I'm trying to figure.
I think I've only added one time. You're supposed to
cut it up like high and take like a little sliver.
But I never I never would be like I never
would be A rough, tough call, tough decision. But the
man's trying to put his money where his mouth is.
(17:46):
Here's a lot of cookies and he wants to keep
that BYU football program. Humming, how about this? Is there
a better fit of all these coaches in schools than
than what Michigan State did with Pat fitzgeral Oh man,
you talk about throwing it back.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
The one thing that Michigan State has always been is
they've always kind of been the junkyard dog of the
Big Ten, like when Mark d Antonio was there, like that,
that was what they did, Like they were they took
the fight to people. They had a little feistiness about him.
Pet Fitzgerald is definitely going to bring that back. Now.
It's funny seeing him at a school that's different than
(18:22):
his alma mater, but I think he understands the conference,
the recruiting footprint, and he certainly knows what works well
up there. I can't wait to see what he gets
an opportunity to I'll say, make amends for an ugly
ending at Northwestern. This would be.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
They would never do this, but just from like a
marketing standpoint where we live in this era where getting
any type of attention is kind of good for your program.
Pat would never do this, but this would be my
idea I would present to him. I would say, Okay,
we're going to do a little social media clip where
we're going to buy harving teams in the Big Ten
now like eighteen.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Something, a million of them.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, So I'd say, if there's eighteen teams in the
Big Ten. We're going to buy seventeen ice bath like tubs,
and we're gonna we're gonna show like the video. We're
gonna have all these seventeen things lined up and we're
gonna do the address labels, one to each of the
teams inside the Big Ten. Hey, we're not saying we're
gonna beat you, but you're gonna need that. You're gonna
(19:24):
need the extra ice tubs after you get done playing
this version of Michigan State Spartans.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh, because they're going all the way back. They're going
all the way back to what they were when they
were at their best. You always knew what kind of
game was heaven. I went to the Big Ten championship game.
I think it was Kirk Cousins versus Russell Wilson, and man,
it was a blood bath. I mean it was an
absolute fistfight in a phone booth between those teams. And
when Michigan State went Sparty, as they say, is built
(19:49):
like that, that's when Sparty's at its best. They are
always at their best when they're kind of feisty and
arnoery and that stuff. And I know Pat Fitzgerald is
definitely gonna bring that back.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You know, Kiffin would have done something like that, Like
if Kiffin would have been like in a Michigan state.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Have you seen him? Have you seen him trolling already?
Like he's already trolling. What's he doing? Oh my god?
The date of the game when Lsu goes to o
miss with a little popcorin emoji. Wow, I mean some
people run from the smoke. Some people run to the smoke.
He is definitely running to the spot. He's not even
cold yet, man, he is. And I'm sitting here like,
(20:27):
wait a minute, Oh, we had evolution, we were doing
hot yoga. Nope, still just as feisty.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Geez one more. I want to hit you on here. Actually,
you know, Ryan Silverfield going from Memphis to Arkansas is interesting.
But Tavita Pritchard, a guy that we scouted, you know,
going that was that he was the architect one of
the biggest upsets in inc double A history when they
beat sc But Andrew Luck came in after him, same
quarterback room and took over for him, and now he
(20:53):
ends up hiring him as Andrew Luck's kind of running
the program up there at Stanford. He brings in the
former quarterback to to run things up there. So it
definitely feels like a little bit of an ode to
that very successful era of Stanford football.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I fully expect them to get back to what was
very very successful for them doing that day. Now, no
one can replicate and be exactly what Jim Harbrough was,
but they have seen the blueprint and they do know
what works. And you have two people that know what works,
and that alignment is everything like the vision that Andrew
Luck and Tavida will have because they've seen what works.
And so I think we'll get back to old school
(21:29):
football in Stanford. They have to be the outlier in
college football in terms of if everyone is zigging, they
need to zag. They need to put multiple guys on
the field. They were tied in you for a minute.
I think they get back to that. Like there are
some ways that they can create advantages. Even though their
recruiting pool is limited. To me, it's still a very
attractive school. It's still very attractive for certain people. I
(21:50):
think you have to understand what it is. They have
to kind of fish in the same pond that Notre
Dame and Rice and Vanderbilt. They have to fish in.
Given the academic challenges rigors of the university.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, I'm anxious to see as these guys get all
settled in. We've got signing day is upon us. The
transfer portal will be opening up here shortly and kind
of see all this different movement that takes place. And
a lot of these guys who stepped up a level.
I'm curious how many of them do the signetti thing
and take some you know, some guys from their previous
team into their new stop and see if they can't
kind of jump start, you know, installing your culture and
(22:24):
what you want from a you know, from a football standpoint,
that is a huge huge advantage for him, you know,
even tho if they were good, not great players, but
just having guys who would be your you know, another
you know, a mouthpiece for the mission, so to speak,
in all these different position rooms. I think that's pretty important.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I think it's really important because they also, i mean, look,
the best advocates. They can tell you, hey, guys, if
we do this, it works, like I've seen it. Part
of it. I know what it is. And from a
coaching staff standpoint, having people in the room that already
know some of the x's and o'su to be able
to jump in. It does jump started when you get
to spring practice and all the other stuff. Yeah. Look, man,
(23:02):
it's gonna be a crazy time because the portal, I mean,
the portal's open. People are jumping in Santa dada Is
on Wednesday. Like, it's just a lot, a lot going on.
You quickly have to rebuild and your children. I think
the change is this is the only time the portals open, right, like,
this is gonna be the only the idea.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
For a while. I think it shuts down then I
don't know when it opens up back again. Who I
think it opens up again after the spring. Yeah, but this,
I mean, this would be a big one. So you
see a lot of movement and that stuff. And it
coincides with signing day, so it's crazy. By the way,
it's signing day. Buck, What was your did you? Did
you commit on Sunday? Where you committed and signed up?
Locked up before that?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know, so long ago I committed, like on the
spot in the middle of senior year. I'd already committed.
Had to keep it quiet. It was one thing they coached.
Brown won it because we brought in four wide receivers
that class I was the first to commit.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
He was like, hey, you, he wants to get these
other guys, and so I did.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I played a long Yeah it was a good teammates. Yeah.
So no, that was fun. But Suna day is always great, Minister,
It's great no matter what the level. Everyone who has
an opportunity to play beyond high school, it's a great opportunity.
They should they should take advantage of it. Have fun.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It's been never been harder too, you know, because of
the transfer portal, never be harder for these high school
kids to get spots, earn as many spots anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Not as many spots, And so they should not feel
that whatever level you end up in, that's that's a blessing.
Just being able to play beyond high school is a dream.
It should be a dream come true for so many.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Go make the most of that opportunity, all right, buck
anything else you want to have before we get out
of here.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Now, man, let's have fun.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Let's keep doing it all right, man, that'll do it
for us. Appreciate you guys, See you next time. Right here.
Undo the sticks
And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
All right, Buck, we've got some great news to announce
here to everybody. And that is not that Rhett is
not here. That's not the great news. The great news
is the reason that Rett is not here. So him
and his wife Kana welcomed a beautiful baby girl, Cody
(00:23):
Lee Kleinschmidt. She was born one thirty eight am on
the first so great birthday, December one, six pounds twelve ounce,
is nineteen and a half inches long. I love that stuff,
sent me beautiful picture. So baby's healthy, Mom's healthy, and
so happy for Reddy.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
He's got a couple of.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Boys, so now he adds a girl to the mix.
And that is also it's gonna hurt him a little bit, Buck,
because he's crushing us right now in the rookie in
the rookie draft and the rookie fantasy league that we're playing.
He's gonna have to take a little hiatus and rely
on me.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Happen here, Oh, we'll see. I thought under the rules,
the praternity rules to like he does praternity, like he
doesn't get a chance to do anything, like he's out. Yeah,
he also gets say test until he goes back.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, that would have been nice. It would helped us
catch up because right now he's at sixty two points.
I'm at forty nine, Buck, you're at forty five. I mean,
this is getting out of control here. He's not good
coming off last week. He had Judkins who got him
some first place points at the running back position. He
had Higgins got him some first place points at the
receiver position, and then he got a second place point
(01:33):
there with love one at the tight end spot. So
he had seven points last week you had four. I
only had one. So it is unfortunately it's tightening up
between me and you, but we're nowhere near where we
need to be in terms of catching rep. And as
we sit today here he has the second pick. You
are first. I am third. We have no Carolina so
(01:55):
no Tedoro McMillan, no New England. So the hottest you
know running back in Henderson and he's not in the mix.
No Giants, no San Francisco. So those are teams on
the Byebuck and you have the first overall pick.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Here we go ooh, I've been doing this for so
long that I can't I can't do it. So I
need a running back. My guy Henderson is out by
asking Genty doesn't give me anything, but gosh, let's go
with Let's go with Aston Genty because I don't have
wha first pick?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
All right, all right, Gavin, you're up here for for Rett.
Who do you want to go? I throw it in
the chat. He's going to go Judkins facing the Titans.
That was going to be my pick. That's kick. That's
a kick to the.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's hard and hard to run against the Titan hard
to run against the Titans. Tea.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, So we got two running backs, so I don't
need to worry about the running backs. I can go
to my tight ends and my receivers. So let's go
for my tight end pick. I'm actually going to go Loveland.
Oh see see I couldn't go. I was trying to
have to go Tyler Warren against the Jacks like this. Yeah,
now you're gonna you might have to, but I'm gonna
(03:02):
go with Loveland at tight end, and then receiver wise, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Gonna go Buka. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So now Gavin is Gavin's back up for Reht He's
gonna go Higgins. So he's going back to the.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well there, So I'm gonna go warn and in any
rookie receiver, receiver who want to put in receiver? I mean,
I guess yeah, I can try that. I'll try Luther.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Burton, Luther Bury, we try it, all right, So you
go Luther Burden, and then Gav's gonna go Gadston for
the tight end spot there. And then I'm gonna finish
things up and I'm gonna go r J. Harvey against
the fighting Las Vegas Raiders. So great about that pick.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
This is your week man, every week, every week.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Every You know, Ret's just gonna complain if we somehow
get back into this thing.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Because.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I could be there. That's why you guys cut up
to me. So I ended up with Lovelin, Abuka and Harvey.
Rhett ended up with Judkins, Higgins and Gadsden and Buck.
You ended up with gent Warren and Burden. So there's
our there's our rookie draft here. We'll see how this
thing goes, see if we can close this thing down
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
We got to get to some college coaching stuff, and
as we do that, I want to tell you I
was talking to a power fore head coach the other
day on the phone, and I said, what part of
the like, what's your least favorite part of this gig
right now with how this whole thing is set up?
And he goes, I'll rank it for you. What's that
He goes, My least favorite is retention, is having to
(04:43):
retain your own players and those conversations and guys, you know,
not happy with their money and I got you know,
you've got agents calling you and saying we've already got X,
Y and Z lined up from other places, so you
match it. Rely said, that's my least favorite part of
the job right now. It's actually roster retin. He said.
Second least favorite part is the nil just in terms
(05:06):
of going out and doing that yourself, going out and
getting players from other spots, like that free agency aspect
of it. He said. Ironically, the easiest part of this
job right now is high school recruiting. So that's the
easy part. That used to be what all these coaches
would complain about was, oh, man, if I could just
be in the NFL, I wouldn't have to recruit. Now,
like shoot, recruiting high school kids is the easiest part
(05:27):
of my job.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, DJ, I do wonder when the worm is going
to turn right. Like I think there's this instant fascination
early with like the portal and all that other stuff.
But I do wonder sometimes if you're taking on other
people's problems and if you're not taking on people's problems,
but if you're not getting that part of it is okay,
I get them, they have success with me, How do
I keep them? How do I continue to sustain what
(05:50):
I want to have in a program when it's so transient,
so many people coming in and out and doing all
that other stuff just makes it very, very difficult, No doubt.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Man, it's just a it's a whole new ball game.
But I want to get into some of these coaching
moves and get your thoughts on them, how you think
they fit. Start first of all, with the Lane Kiffin thing.
I mean, I'm I'm sorry. I'm not going to lend
my name to the outrage one way or the other.
There's people that hate Lane Kiff into this process. There's
people that think, you know, Lane Kiffin's a saint.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I don't really have a hot take on it either way.
It'd be tough for me to leave a team that
was going into the playoff, but he is the way
the calendar works, this is kind of the option that
you have, and he felt like he's got a better
chance to win a national championship there. I think that's
been proven. Although I think that college football is just
different now. I don't know that that standard holds the same.
I would say that my definition of pressure is the
(06:46):
cost is the cost per win? I think is pressure.
You know, in other words, you you pay it, you
get paid that much money. The expectations are very high
at that school and now it's man, you're not going
to be You're not going to be celebrated for winning
ten games and baton rouge. That's not what they care about.
They need a little bit more than that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, they need a little more of that. And so
it's a little walk on faith or leap of faith
for LSU to see if Lane can get there. Because
he doesn't have any tangible proof of being able to
do He doesn't happen on his board. Doesn't mean that
he can't do it because he's a hell of a recruiter,
does a really good job offenously getting him up and going.
But yeah, the pressure and the expectations there are crazy
(07:27):
and he has to do it. I do understand why
people are outraged, because man, this is the best season
that Old Miss has had, and all of the noise
around it over the last couple of weeks could have
derailed their opportunity to go. And they still may get
punished for him leaving when it comes to the seating
and those things. But it is what it is Pete
Golden to takeover. He'll have to figure out a way
(07:48):
to do it with a skeleton staff, particularly on offense.
But that's what it is and you have to figure
it out. I think the frustrating part when it comes
to Lane and going to you is okay, Like if
you love like the new opportunity, great, you say you
love Ole Miss. At least give them the best chance
(08:09):
to go. So if you go, you leave the offensive
staff there for a little bit so they can do it.
I think that is probably the thing is they won't
be the same team that they were when we see
them in the postseason. If they make the post I
assume they gonna make the playoff, but they won't be
the same team.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah. I also think the way that schedule went, they
dodged some bullets in terms of the SEC this year.
I didn't expect them if and they were going to
make some deep run in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I mean like it's the perfect storm, but you never know.
I mean, it is the perfect storm. It was a
perfect storm for the I'm at a high school game.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
This is a couple of weeks ago, and h it
was skill it Thanksgiving, so you had all the all
the high school kids or the college kids come home,
you know. So I'm at the high school game and
my daughter, who's graduated a couple of years ago. I
see her friend who was there, you know, watching some
of her younger friends play in this football game, and
she comes over it.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
She goes, mister Jerry, I go yeah, She goes, are
we going to keep our coach? So he goes to
old miss like, man, this boy, I said, I'm afraid
I got some bad news on that front.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I don't think you are.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
We'll see what happens, but unless something changes, I think
he's going to go to LSU. But I'm like, hey,
just be grateful you got you guys got to the playoff.
I think she was a freshman this year, like he
would you got to go to the Coech Football playoff
and if you get a home game, and if you
get a home game, it's gonna be bananas. Yeah. The
other thing I was thinking of with that move. You know,
there's always been this debate and USC's had some great
(09:31):
receivers and this goes back to Lane's time there when
he was coaching receivers, but the debate has always been,
oh is it Ohio State or LSU, Like, what's been
the premiere receiver factory. Well, Lane's had great receivers when
he was at USC, when he was at Alabama, elite
league receivers. He's had really good receivers at Old Miss
during his time there. And now he gets to go
(09:53):
to LSU where there's primo, primo kids coming out of
Louisiana and Florida every year, Like they are going to
have that's going to go back to what they had
when they had Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, all the like.
They are going to have a factory of elite, elite
wideouts with him at LSU.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I mean yeah, I mean you just have so many
guys that come through there. You talk about anywhere from
Odill Beckham, Junior, Jarvis Landry to the New School Justin Jefferson,
Jamar Chase and others Brian Thomas junior Eleague neighbors like
they've always had those guys, but Lane is proven to
showcase highlight wide receivers. He likes to throw the ball
out over the yard. It's gonna be exactly what LSU wants.
(10:31):
And it'd be funny because right now Ohio State is
wide receiver you in my estimation in terms of like
the amount of guys that are coming out there and
playing in the league. But it makes for a great conversation.
It's gonna be interesting to see who he ends up
getting down there, not only the guys straight from high school,
but the transfer kids. They come in there they want
to get showcase.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I know Michigan's won a national championship in the last
ten years without elite, elite wide receiver play, but that,
to me is one of the things about college football
that people don't talk about. Those lead Alabama teams had
big time receivers, Georgia had some big time receivers, and
if you throw Brock Bowers in there as well, like
big time passing game weapons. Ohio State on their run
awesome awesome wide receivers like that's a big component of
(11:13):
trying to win a national championship. Obviously, the LSU with
Burrow and those guys I just mentioned with just most
you ever since Jamar Chase all those guys like that's
an important position to be able to recruit and find
big time talent.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, because you've got to be able to have explosive plays.
The explosive plays matter. Way back in the day when
we used to have Brian Billick come on and he
would talk about the explosive play quote and how the
explosive plays are directly correlated to the amount of points
that you score. The receivers can deliver them. They can
give those game flipping play field flipping plays where twenty
(11:45):
forty yard passes, and they can do it in variety ways,
whether you run past year, they cass the screens and
move up and down the field. You have to have
at least one and preferably two when you're playing two
and three wide receivers all the time, you need to
have some game changes on the perim.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
All right, Buck, I want to give you a couple
of these hires and uh, and just tell me which
one you like the most or what you're excited about. Here.
We get John Sumrall, he goes to Florida from Tulane.
We get Alex Golish from South Florida, he goes to Auburn.
You get So those are the two, and then the
other one is someone in terms of stepping up a level,
(12:22):
Bob Chest and he goes from jmu Uh he goes
to U C.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
L A.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Those are some interesting ones of guys who've been successful
coaches and they're they're going up or rung on the
ladder here. I'm excited to see what those guys look like.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, it's interesting. Uh, first night man is two to
stand out. It's hardy to separate. I love Alice Goldish
going from ute, South Florida to Auburn. And the reason
why is because like having followed him, like being office
coordinated at Tennessee, like high powered offense is going tempo. Uh.
(12:55):
What he did is South Florida in terms of getting
them not only to be like a dynamic offense, but
they're tough and physicality. Seeing the press or seeing the
first meeting that they had at Auburn, process driven toughness.
We're all about it. Like I was buying in and
I believe at Auburn you absolutely have the ability to
be able to get it. It's just whether it be
patient enough to see him flip it and get it done.
(13:17):
John Somerral is a great coach, having watched Tulane, having
been down there, having seen how he's able to get
it done. He is a close friend. Evident I had
to notice of Liam Cohen and so that connectivity that
they have. But as he says, and I think this
works in Florida, he wants to be like Bob Stoops
was to Steve Spurrier. I want to be a defensive
(13:38):
minded guy who has an explosive offense that lights up scoreboards.
Florida is about winning, but you got to win with style.
And so I think both of those hires match where
they're going, and I think that's really, really, really important.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, I'll say too with John Sumrall and our friend
Dave Calwell, who's going to be the GM. Their retention roster, attention,
like they've got receiver backs, they've got a lot of
really really talented young skill players. We'll see what they
decide and what DJ Lagway decides. If there's better for
everybody if he moves on or better if they try
and give him a fresh voice and see if they
(14:15):
can get him to kind of play and perform up
to what his recruiting status was as one of the
top players in the country. So I'll interestly keep an
eye on that one. The UCLA one, to me is fascinating.
I don't know that that was a very attractive job
to a lot of people. But Bob Chesney, who's just continued,
I think he was holy crossed. Then James Madison is
a young guy, and that's been a obviously with Kurt Signetti,
(14:36):
JMU has been a place that's been a little bit
of a launching pad as of late.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, loshing pad. This dude is good man. He's a
really good coach, really excited about what he has an
opportunity to do with UCLA. And I think UCLA is
a program that has to think differently than some of
these other programs. They don't have all the resources, all
the things that are afforded to some of the other teams,
and so you have to have someone who has an
underdog's mentality but doesn't use that as an excuse. His
(15:01):
dynamic offense will be attractive and appealing to recruitse that
want to go to UCLA. What he's been able to
do his entire time. He's used to doing what we
talk about more with less. I think that'll work, and
that's a big thing. I look, these coaching hires are
funny because one, there's so many of them, Like I
didn't think the carousel would spin like his spinning. Or
(15:23):
we're talking about will Stein going to Kentucky. Offensive mine
who is from Kentucky, played at Louisville. Both parents wind
the Kentucky, so it's almost like a homecoming for him.
That is interesting to me. And then the one that
hasn't been settled, but the conversation that's going Penn State
and Sataki from BYU, Yeah, it's that really going to happen.
I love.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I think Colonie is a great coach. As we're recording this,
this might already be done, but it's not a fit
that came to mind immediately. But a guy's a darn
good coach.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Darn good coach. Now stylistically it fits because I think
what you would get is like that that old scrug
in State Bill. What I can believe is going to
happen is that BYU is going to let one of
their own leave and what has happened in the eleventh hour?
A lot I won. I didn't know that there were
a bunch of millionaires and billionaires associated with BYU.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Have you ever stated a Marriott before?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But evidently they've come out the droves to make sure, like,
hold on, we may have a little more money, so
it may not be a done deal. But that was
the biggest surprise in terms of the rumor meal that
was heating up, and I was like, oh, that is
a big one.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah again, I'm put in the chat the Crumble Cookies founder.
He's doing his best, and I sold a lot of cookies.
By the way, first time I ever had a Crumble Cookie.
I didn't know that. I had just heard about these things,
and I was getting my uh, I was getting some
tires and so I like a discount tire or something.
There was I saw a Crumble Cookie effort of this.
Everybody's talking about this place. So I went over there
and ate. So I get home and my wife goes like, oh,
(16:57):
you know, how was I'm like, you know, I went
over to Crumble Cookie while I was get them tires, So, oh,
what'd you think? I don't I actually kind of made
me sick.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't feel so good. So I don't understand, Like
did you just where's the rest of the cookie or whatever?
I go, what do you mean the rest of those
are for like four people? Those are like I'm like,
I thought that was just she's like four thousand calories.
You just ate with that thing. I'm like, no, wonder,
I feel so sick. Something was huge.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It's like a cookie cake.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Not one person is supposed to crush that thing. Apparently.
I think that was the one and done for me
on the crumbled cookie. And it's a great cookie. But
I overdid it. I just overdid it. I'm trying to figure.
I think I've only added one time. You're supposed to
cut it up like high and take like a little sliver.
But I never I never would be like I never
would be A rough, tough call, tough decision. But the
man's trying to put his money where his mouth is.
(17:46):
Here's a lot of cookies and he wants to keep
that BYU football program. Humming, how about this? Is there
a better fit of all these coaches in schools than
than what Michigan State did with Pat fitzgeral Oh man,
you talk about throwing it back.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
The one thing that Michigan State has always been is
they've always kind of been the junkyard dog of the
Big Ten, like when Mark d Antonio was there, like that,
that was what they did, Like they were they took
the fight to people. They had a little feistiness about him.
Pet Fitzgerald is definitely going to bring that back. Now.
It's funny seeing him at a school that's different than
(18:22):
his alma mater, but I think he understands the conference,
the recruiting footprint, and he certainly knows what works well
up there. I can't wait to see what he gets
an opportunity to I'll say, make amends for an ugly
ending at Northwestern. This would be.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
They would never do this, but just from like a
marketing standpoint where we live in this era where getting
any type of attention is kind of good for your program.
Pat would never do this, but this would be my
idea I would present to him. I would say, Okay,
we're going to do a little social media clip where
we're going to buy harving teams in the Big Ten
now like eighteen.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Something, a million of them.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, So I'd say, if there's eighteen teams in the
Big Ten. We're going to buy seventeen ice bath like tubs,
and we're gonna we're gonna show like the video. We're
gonna have all these seventeen things lined up and we're
gonna do the address labels, one to each of the
teams inside the Big Ten. Hey, we're not saying we're
gonna beat you, but you're gonna need that. You're gonna
(19:24):
need the extra ice tubs after you get done playing
this version of Michigan State Spartans.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh, because they're going all the way back. They're going
all the way back to what they were when they
were at their best. You always knew what kind of
game was heaven. I went to the Big Ten championship game.
I think it was Kirk Cousins versus Russell Wilson, and man,
it was a blood bath. I mean it was an
absolute fistfight in a phone booth between those teams. And
when Michigan State went Sparty, as they say, is built
(19:49):
like that, that's when Sparty's at its best. They are
always at their best when they're kind of feisty and
arnoery and that stuff. And I know Pat Fitzgerald is
definitely gonna bring that back.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You know, Kiffin would have done something like that, Like
if Kiffin would have been like in a Michigan state.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Have you seen him? Have you seen him trolling already?
Like he's already trolling. What's he doing? Oh my god?
The date of the game when Lsu goes to o
miss with a little popcorin emoji. Wow, I mean some
people run from the smoke. Some people run to the smoke.
He is definitely running to the spot. He's not even
cold yet, man, he is. And I'm sitting here like,
(20:27):
wait a minute, Oh, we had evolution, we were doing
hot yoga. Nope, still just as feisty.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Geez one more. I want to hit you on here. Actually,
you know, Ryan Silverfield going from Memphis to Arkansas is interesting.
But Tavita Pritchard, a guy that we scouted, you know,
going that was that he was the architect one of
the biggest upsets in inc double A history when they
beat sc But Andrew Luck came in after him, same
quarterback room and took over for him, and now he
(20:53):
ends up hiring him as Andrew Luck's kind of running
the program up there at Stanford. He brings in the
former quarterback to to run things up there. So it
definitely feels like a little bit of an ode to
that very successful era of Stanford football.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I fully expect them to get back to what was
very very successful for them doing that day. Now, no
one can replicate and be exactly what Jim Harbrough was,
but they have seen the blueprint and they do know
what works. And you have two people that know what works,
and that alignment is everything like the vision that Andrew
Luck and Tavida will have because they've seen what works.
And so I think we'll get back to old school
(21:29):
football in Stanford. They have to be the outlier in
college football in terms of if everyone is zigging, they
need to zag. They need to put multiple guys on
the field. They were tied in you for a minute.
I think they get back to that. Like there are
some ways that they can create advantages. Even though their
recruiting pool is limited. To me, it's still a very
attractive school. It's still very attractive for certain people. I
(21:50):
think you have to understand what it is. They have
to kind of fish in the same pond that Notre
Dame and Rice and Vanderbilt. They have to fish in.
Given the academic challenges rigors of the university.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, I'm anxious to see as these guys get all
settled in. We've got signing day is upon us. The
transfer portal will be opening up here shortly and kind
of see all this different movement that takes place. And
a lot of these guys who stepped up a level.
I'm curious how many of them do the signetti thing
and take some you know, some guys from their previous
team into their new stop and see if they can't
kind of jump start, you know, installing your culture and
(22:24):
what you want from a you know, from a football standpoint,
that is a huge huge advantage for him, you know,
even tho if they were good, not great players, but
just having guys who would be your you know, another
you know, a mouthpiece for the mission, so to speak,
in all these different position rooms. I think that's pretty important.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I think it's really important because they also, i mean, look,
the best advocates. They can tell you, hey, guys, if
we do this, it works, like I've seen it. Part
of it. I know what it is. And from a
coaching staff standpoint, having people in the room that already
know some of the x's and o'su to be able
to jump in. It does jump started when you get
to spring practice and all the other stuff. Yeah. Look, man,
(23:02):
it's gonna be a crazy time because the portal, I mean,
the portal's open. People are jumping in Santa dada Is
on Wednesday. Like, it's just a lot, a lot going on.
You quickly have to rebuild and your children. I think
the change is this is the only time the portals open, right, like,
this is gonna be the only the idea.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
For a while. I think it shuts down then I
don't know when it opens up back again. Who I
think it opens up again after the spring. Yeah, but this,
I mean, this would be a big one. So you
see a lot of movement and that stuff. And it
coincides with signing day, so it's crazy. By the way,
it's signing day. Buck, What was your did you? Did
you commit on Sunday? Where you committed and signed up?
Locked up before that?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know, so long ago I committed, like on the
spot in the middle of senior year. I'd already committed.
Had to keep it quiet. It was one thing they coached.
Brown won it because we brought in four wide receivers
that class I was the first to commit.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
He was like, hey, you, he wants to get these
other guys, and so I did.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I played a long Yeah it was a good teammates. Yeah.
So no, that was fun. But Suna day is always great, Minister,
It's great no matter what the level. Everyone who has
an opportunity to play beyond high school, it's a great opportunity.
They should they should take advantage of it. Have fun.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It's been never been harder too, you know, because of
the transfer portal, never be harder for these high school
kids to get spots, earn as many spots anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Not as many spots, And so they should not feel
that whatever level you end up in, that's that's a blessing.
Just being able to play beyond high school is a dream.
It should be a dream come true for so many.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Go make the most of that opportunity, all right, buck
anything else you want to have before we get out
of here.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Now, man, let's have fun.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Let's keep doing it all right, man, that'll do it
for us. Appreciate you guys, See you next time. Right here.
Undo the sticks
Hosts And Creators
Daniel Jeremiah
Bucky Brooks
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Are You A Charlotte?
In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.