April 2, 2025 • 53 mins
On the latest NFL Players: Second Acts podcast, Pro Bowl cornerback Patrick Peterson joins hosts Peanut and Roman. Patrick and Roman debate whether LSU or Alabama have produced better defensive backs and Patrick explains the significance of the number seven jersey at LSU. He also discusses some of the major battles he had against Cam Newton in college and the NFL, explains how he overcame his rookie year defensive struggles, and reveals whether he would come back for a fourteenth season. Patrick shares his goals for his second act as a broadcaster and podcaster, tells the story of the teacher who inspired him to pursue public speaking, and talks about life as a “dance dad.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, they said he rant me over. I
was like, how could he have ramped me over? When
I was diving on this guy, you know, from getting
on diving on it from the back, you know, how
could he have ranted me over?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
But he did drag me a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Thank you for tuning in to the NFL Player's Second
Act podcast. I'm Peena Tillman and with me as always
as I got my guy, Roman Harper. Oh, I like
that shirt man.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thanks Penut.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm feeling the mister Rogers vibe right now. You got
a mister Rogers vibe thing.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You got the.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Foot the lay across.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
It's called a card again, and yes it is something
like that. So I appreciate that. I'm really excited for
this guest. I've never really got to sit down. I've
only got to admire this guy's career from afar. Never
really got to sit down spend a lot of time
with him. Yeah, very envious of a lot of things
he's been able to accomplish. Really really proud of everything
he's got done. And it's three DB's out here, baby,
(00:56):
so he sarn is three D three DB's together.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
It's gonna be a good one. You know, introduced who
We have.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Played thirteen seasons in the NFL, the number fifth pick
overall in the twenty eleven draft, went to LSU Pro
Bowl for his first eight seasons, three time All Pro,
twenty ten All Decade Team. Now, he does a lot
of stuff. He's an analyst, he's a radio host, and
he hosts a couple of different podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Also avid golfer and is.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
An avid golfer. I don't know if he's a good golfer,
but he's an avid golfer. Right, that's a whole nother story.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
All the way to be good is you got to
be avid about it.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
He be out there, Nazi German or con Patrick Peterson
to the pod.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Appreciate you guys, appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
The golf game, what's what's let's talk about the golf
real quick. Every every one we get, every every person
we get on the show, he's all he y'all have
this conversation. I can do the first eight holes of golf,
maybe nine, and I get bored and I'm done. I
like the speed golf. We played speed golf in LA
and it was great. So I don't know what hotel
we said that it had the hotel with the golf
(02:01):
course in the bag. It's just too slow.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's boring. Man, I love golf. It's just for me.
It just puts me in a different.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Place, you know, Like it's almost like football, like the
outside world is. It doesn't matter to me anymore for
those four hours. Now, I know that for these four hours,
I'm gonna be with some good guys, gonna have a
great conversation, and nothing else matters but trying to play
good golf obviously, but also amend some different friendships that
(02:34):
I may not even thought about having.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And Pat you can probably talk about this too.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It's like it's something we said about not mastering a craft,
like you just every day you're working at it and
it's always something that you can improve on. I don't
think we all get that in every day in life,
where it's still something like to be yet to scratch
or I got to get after it just a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Icket.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
It's always something and even your best shots, not even
the best shot right, still something to be worked upon.
So that's what I like. I love about golf. I'm
I'm addicted to it. I gotta be honest, I'm an
avid golfer as well. I'm trying to be like you
with a handicap. Man, I'm probably probably a sixteen seventeen okay, yeah,
(03:18):
I mean how long you been playing for?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Not long enough? Gotcha?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
What's my handicap?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I mean you're in the twenties, so you want to
be a low handicap yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm five.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Oh So he's like he's right there questioning it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Like for me, I just want to be in the
mid eighties by the end of by the time I
start back football season against gotcha. So I want to
continue to work on that. But that's going to be
I got it. I got to place my drop, my
t shots got to be improved, so I got a
chance to score.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So when you practice, do you practice more on the
range or you go out on the course on the range?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Bad place?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I agree it range don't let don't tell you because
you got to You got to get comfortable seeing the
shot and hitting the shot.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And not only that the range is level flat, you
got to go out there and practice the actual shots
you're going to be hitting on the course. So like
for me, I don't practice on the range at all.
Like if I go play I'm play by myself. Maybe
get like three or footballs and just hit them and
just keep a team working on different shots.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Go, this is a football podcast.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Credit, get back to football, right, Let's talk about some dbs.
All right, bring it back? So bring it back? You
want you want to start this one?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You not want to start football And I'll come on
the offense on this.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So Pat and you and you, I will give you credit.
I think you're probably one of the guys that started this.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
L s U is DBU. I would debate that you're
wrong on that.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Okay, I think Alabama by far is way more DBU
than l s U. And I would assume Ohio State
has something to say about that too. But to me,
those are the three bill ones and I think Lash's
at the bottom of that cat.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Wow damn bottom. Yes, how many Jim Thorpe Alabama got?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh yeah, yeah. I don't go off of just Thorpe awards.
This is what you're going off of.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I'm just going off of production and guys in the league.
You got some stats back then. I mean I got
definitely do I didn't know if you want to do it.
Do you want to defend yourself first or you want
me to just start spinning.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And you can go. You know you brought it up.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So I want to hear, okay, well split away, spit
away my dipper friend.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Well, Pat Peterson, all right, twenty eleven, first round draft pick.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Let's just go off a first round draft pick, first
round first doing. All right, we don't have we have
three first rounders. Well, no, you got more than that.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You got Mo Clayborn twenty twelve, Eric Reed, I give
him credit twenty thirteen, Jamal Adams, Andrew Davis White twenty seventeen,
and the last one twenty twenty two. Derek Stingley, and
you Grant Delpitt second round. Grant went second, Yes he did.
Damn okay bad senior year. Should have left junior year. Yeah, yep,
(05:59):
So then go I was ready. I was figure in
the area. Yeah. So we can start as recently as
twenty twenty four for Alabama Terry on Arnold. I won't
count kool Ai mcinstry, who was the second round pick
pastser Tan the highest paid dB.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, ain't up for the defensive player.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
There, It is, all right, yep, twenty twenty one. Minka
Fitzpatrick twenty eighteen. Marlon Humphrey another first round pick, Shout
out Alabama.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
He's from Alabama.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Marlon Humphrey two at twenty seventeen, Landon Collins from Louisiana
right here in the city of New Orleans twenty fifteen,
Hahi Clinn Dix Florida Cat twenty fourteen, Mark bars Ready
twenty twelve, Drey Kirkpatrick, both from the state of Alabama
twenty twelve as well. And I'm not even going about
(06:54):
Trayvon Diggs and Xavier McKinnon, who was another pro bowler
for by the Green Bay Packers, because they were both
second round pick. But I'm just saying DBU is probably
the University of Alabama high Tide, no high time, Go Elephants.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Nobody says that. I'm definitely not saying nothing about no
dang on tie.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So you can say go Elephants. You can say that,
go Elephants. That's still giving them a reference. So but
I mean, yeah, I mean wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You you put together a listen, you definitely was ready
to claim the throne.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But you were talking about you're talking about the first
round of guys, and you're you're asking me a question,
who are who is the real DBU.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I'm going to go off of.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Just what the guys did in college in the awards
that we want.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
In college.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Minka was the second or the third player in college
history to win the Jim Thorpe inter Bet.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
There, I was a second.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Tyron, he won major wards, he was a Heisman finalist.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
If you would have finished, I think that was another
thing too kind of got shook up that last week.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I will say, you guys have have had more first
rounders than us, but I feel like the guys in
college we had more production.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I can't deny that. I think. I think what you
between you and Tyron and wearing the number seven, I
think it's something special about that as well. And maybe
you can go into that too, like does your swag
automatically go up when you put on the number seven
jersey at LSU?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
No doubt about it, because more confidence. You have more
confidence and you have to think about it a dB.
You never really saw number seven on a dB before,
Like that's always been an offense position or a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, you know so.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And when I had the opportunity to rock the number,
you know, finally, less miles giving me an opportunity to
you know, catch some punt returns and you know, take
them back to the house. It was just something like
people saw aura about the number seven. It was almost
like if you if you had the number seven, it
was almost like you was Jesus, Like you couldn't do
(08:57):
anything wrong. Everything was fall right for you. You was
gonna make damn there every play. It was like everything
was meant for, meant for it to happen, you know.
So yeah, I'm definitely happy and proud to say that
I started that tradition.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I agree. And when I went back and looked, I'm like, damn,
he really did start that.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
We got office of Lineman's wearing it now Will And
the crazy thing about it, they came up with the
I guess like a slogan. It's called the impact number.
So if you rock at number seven, your impact player.
And that was the first time that I've ever seen
it's so unique to where Will couldn't he couldn't wear
the number seven.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They made a patch for him.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, so that's how significant the number seven now is
in l SU history.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Hey, where is it a practice? You can't wear it
in the game? Yes, I like that though. That's a
good story.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's like a little tradition. I like the culture of it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's that's good.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So how many times do people actually bring up that play?
Betwe when when you were in college with L.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
S U talking about out the bounce?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Which player we no, not the Alabama Alabama out of one.
I'm talking about when Cam Newton supposedly ran from you.
Oh man, how often do you get this this talk
about this? I was very impressive by Camp. It was like,
I'm not even very impressive.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It was very impressed, and you.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Were kind of considered like the fastest guy in college
at the time.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I was, but I was actually coming off a block.
It was like, oh he First of all, they said
he rant me over. I was like, how could he
have ranted me over? When I was diving on this guy,
you know, from getting on, diving on it from the back,
you know, how could he have ranted me over? But
he did drag me a little bit. I will say,
I'm a guy like we all players, We've been in
(10:42):
tough meetings before. We got tough skin. It is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
We all got got got before exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I just took it on the chain. It was a
hell of a play by Cam. But It wasn't what
everybody made it out.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I was always wanted to hear from you because I've
never seen times and I was like, oh, do you
know who I can ask about this because this is
a play that everybody always talks about.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It was Cam's like heismanbo That moment came down to
the fast running back. He broke, he broke, He broke
the play for like sixty yards like Cam Newton was
running all over the yard, but they only had twenty
four points, so they was driving the ball up and
down the yard, but we kept getting getting them off
the field on fourth downs. Yeah, and that one I
cannot remember the running backs name, but that joker was fast.
(11:26):
Almost ran him down though, but he was a trick
he was. He was like a trick play guy. But
that sucker was rolling down the sideline. And that's pretty
much iceter game. We had no business and being in
that game, but we found a way.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Keep you close.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Defense keeps you close.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
You had the mad Hatter as your head coach.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
And did eating eating up grass and stuff. I'm glad
somebody finally admitted that because.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That was good.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
We're going to take a short break and we'll be
back in a minute, doing a little bit of research
about you for this podcast. Come to realize I didn't
know Peterson wasn't your It wasn't what it is your
last name, Yes, but I didn't I didn't know you
changed it was it was a Johnson.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Talked about why you went from Johnson to Peterson man.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, I don't get asked that question very often. But
back when I was born, my parents had me at
a very young age. My mom was eighteen, my dad
was twenty, and in my mom household, if you're not married,
you're not getting you're not getting the dad's last name.
You're gonna you know, you're gonna get the mom's last name.
So my mom last name is Johnson. So had Patrick
(12:40):
Johnson all the way up into high school my senior year,
but my parents ended up getting married my sophomore year
and I was a very dominant player, and my dad
and my parents did not want any conflict coming up
and like, oh, why he's changing his name now, or
it was something it was something that was going to
happen that they wanted me to sit out a year
(13:01):
if I changed my name. It was it was just
trying their best just to keep me off the football field.
So my dad was like, screw it, We're just gonna
change your name when you when you go off there.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
LSU.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So as soon as I graduated, all the documents, everything
was signed. As soon as I graduated in January, because
I graduated school early, I changed my last name to Peterson.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
That's cool, And hey, how did your dad receive that?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He thought it was dope because you know, my dad
was a football player, you know, he played ball, but
a you know, heart murmur, you know, kept him short
of fulfilling his dreams. So I think it was like,
you know, damn, now I get to see, you know,
my last name on the back of a jersey. Yeah,
and that's he put so much you know, effort and
(13:42):
molding me as far as my work ethic, far as
how I approached the game, you know what I mean.
So I knew that it meant something to him on
how much you know, he dedicated his time to make
sure that I was well prepared for the position that
I ended up being in, playing thirteen years, you know,
going to college and having a pretty healthy college a
(14:05):
high school career.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, I think it was a little bit more than healthy.
I appreciate that humility today. But I'm gonna get you
up out of that.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
So you are a five star rated player in high school.
So you a little bit more than healthy career. All right,
you're rang one of the top players, if not the
top player, especially in your position. Coming out of high school.
You coming to college, you have a dominant college career.
You you kind of start up this whole LSUDB thing.
You came into the league, pat.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You were dominant.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
You had a great rookie first year, like Peanut said,
your first eight years you went to the Pro Bowl.
And another little nugget, you're one of only three people
to do that, all right in NFL history. It's beautiful.
Before the age of twenty eight. Yep, that's another little
small nugget. But you got another in the cap.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You got in young, you bad and how does it
feel to be that? Damin?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I believe I always played above my age. Like for
an example, I remember getting kicked off a football team
when I was six years old. When I'm playing with
the seven and eight years old in my first game,
I scored three times. So when I scored that many
touchdowns and now all with my size I looked apart
(15:21):
like I was, you know, a seven or eight year old,
although I was six. So I scored those three touchdowns.
The league of playing pompin no Tigers, I'll never forget it.
The league official comes to our games like this kid's
too old, Like where's this pirth certificate? So they pull
out the birth certificate, found out I was too young.
(15:42):
Then schooling everybody I was too young, got kicked off
the team, then had to come back, you know the
following year, and ended up that's kind of like when
my football career took off. But just always playing with
the old the kids. I felt like that that was
(16:02):
something that I needed to do because I was always
light year light years above you know, my peers people
that was around my age, and I was always bigger
than them.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Then when I got to.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
High school, I'm just an ultra competitor man, like whatever
I do, I want to put my best foot for.
And I had this goal set up even when I
was a kid. My mom can tell you this, like
I always had dreams and aspirations that I was going
to be in the NFL. It wasn't like if I
make it, it was like, no, when I make it.
This is going to happen. This is how I wanted
(16:36):
to happen. So I'm a guy that loves to manifest things,
you know what I mean. I'm a guy that love
to speak things into an existence. So even as a kid,
I was a high schools like, when I get to
high school, I'm doominate do this. When I get to college,
it ain't gonna fall off. I want to do this
when I get to the league. I want to be
remembered forever and be able to have an opportunity to
(16:57):
have my name called a football heaven because that's why
I played game, you know what I mean. So that
was just always my mindset. That was always it was
always something motivating me.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I was never satisfied. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
So with that, with that mindset of just always wanted
to be the greatest, when did you get put on
your ass?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Like, what was that?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Welcome to the NFL moment for you?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Welcome to the NFL moment. I'll probably I have to
say against you wasn't on the team. It was against
Carolina Panthers Cam Newton the rookie year. Oh yeah, yeah,
so I wasn't there. Okay, So you came around what
he got there?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Fourteen? Okay, got it? So boom.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
My first game, it was actually had to welcome to
the NFL moments in that.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Okay, didn't they play against you all this first game? Yes,
that was his first NFL game, first NFL game.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yes, so crazy, Welcome to the I guess what I'm
going up against?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Steve Smith. Steve Smith, so.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Lean up into the game, Adrian Wilson, Dartnell, Doe kad Yeah,
Kalais Campbell a man because coach then to know, so
Danceby had just left the winning Miami and then he
came back. So I played with dance So all the
old heads like, man, listen, man, Steve Smith, man, listen,
(18:20):
don't say nothing to him.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Just leave him alone. True statement.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'm like, all right, cool. I mean, I'm a rookie.
I'm just still trying to find my way. I don't
have much to say anyway. All right, let me see
what how it is. Get in the game. They sent
me on the corner blitz. I think it was like
the first drive of the game, Steve go for eighty,
but it wasn't on me, but I blitzed. Steve made
sure he found me though, because apparently he knew that
(18:46):
I was going to be his assignment. Like I was
following him for the most part. So after that play,
he you know, he let me here, we go down
and score. So now they back on the field. You know, Steve,
he loves the block. He do all the dirty ro Yeah,
the ball on the opposite side of the field. I
can't even remember who was the running back men men,
Steve just almost brother in law in it, you know,
(19:08):
running down the field and he just chucked me like
that was about he said, yeah, young blood, welcome to
the league. Was like, so these boys wasn't lying like
this dude is. He's really crazy. So that was my
that was my first welcome to the NFL moment. Then
he ended up scoring on me too, and he stepped
over me. That was that was pretty So this is
(19:29):
all Smitty's avenue, but I was disrespect so then check
this out. So that was that was a touchdown. When
Smitty scored on me, that was a touchdown. That tied
the game. Okay, so now our offense go down, we
get throwing out. Then they we punted the ball off
of them to pretty much try to It's like seven
minutes left, so we pumped the ball off of them
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and they end up driving a little bit. They get
the midfield, we stop him six minutes left in the game.
Pumped me the ball. I take it back nine yards,
but the game win a touchdown. So I had kind
of two Welcome to the NFL moments in one game.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I like that. You know, we talked about that.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
So your rookie year, defensively, I was just looking at
the numbers. You didn't just like dominate numbers wise, but
you did have four point returns for touchdown that year,
and so that's what got you kind of boom boom, Okay,
oh now, oh this guy legit is for real, for real.
And then your second year you had seven interceptions. I'm confused, though,
(20:33):
as fast as you are, you've only ran two interceptions
back for touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah wow, because I'm a man and man guy. And
you got to think about it too. Room when my
interceptions came from majority with my back towards the quarterback.
So now when I'm finding a ball, I have to
adjust and catch the ball in the receivers right there
nine times out of ten, and you know, then he's
bringing me down to the ground the most, the most
(21:01):
yards I've ever got off my interceptions when I was
in zone, so when I can see the ball and
kind of navigate where then but every all majority of
my interception came in man to where I had to
adjust to the quarterback and you know, find the football
and obviously I'm right there with the receiver, so he's
bringing me down.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Now it turns out of ten I was.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
That's one stat I just like man. I just did
not would have thought it would have been eight. Yeah,
because I've seen you get in the zone, but it's
mostly pump return So that's that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I did not know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
That you got what you gotta touchdown telling me you
that I got two years agovel okay, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
I was like, there's no way I got the same
amount as that's really how I got that. There's no way,
but like you got to there's no way, but.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
What pum returns you for for?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
But you know what's crazy about how you said I
had the four pump returns my rookie year. I struggled
as a defender, though I was necessarily I struggle. I
had had ebbs and flows as a defender my rookie year,
but scoring those touchdowns gave me confidence.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That I could still be out here, not only that,
that I belong here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So now let's put it all together. Now I understand
how teams want to attack me. Now let's put all
my focus on how to be a better defender.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, you know what I mean. Because at the end
of the day, when.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I was when I when I was, uh, you know,
as a pump returner, those were dynamic plays like I
want games with that, you know what I mean. So
I won't necessarily say my focus was, you know, solely
on that, but I was having so much fun doing
I was looking forward to doing that, you know what
I mean. So after that year, it gave me confidence like, yeah,
pe man, you belong Like, let's do what you what
(22:44):
you really are here to be.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And that's the one of the best.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Part about that struggle though, Understanding how teams wanted to
wanted to attack me, under Understanding the different splits, because
you know, coming from college, the numbers are, you know,
three yards away on.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
The sideline, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Now you're in the league, they're what twelve yards away
from the sideline, you know what I mean. So understanding
the different splits, understanding the different route combinations now because you,
like I just said, in college, everything is spread wide
open and the lead is more condensed. It's more motions,
it's more shifts, so you have to have your eyes
in the right place. There's so much more detail oriented
(23:23):
in the league than it was in college. So once
I Adrian Wilson was a guy who helped me tremendous
with that on how to study film, how to read
different formations, and I believe that's what really helped slow
the game down for me, and that's how I was
able to take that next step in year two.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I just love what you're saying because I want our
viewers and our listeners to understand that's like real nfl
dB jargon right there, and that's like the evolution for
every player. Where the game truly gets to slow down
is where I'm actually seeing the whole game.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I'm not just playing a position.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
And then when it gets to that point, you sound
like a real pro, and now you're able to teach
young guys, and that's how you have that's how you
get thirteen years exactly, because you're not the same physically,
even though you're still pat p and we know how
fast you are, you'll be faster when you're forty five.
But you know what I mean, the hysical part right
continues to get us all and that's how you cause
(24:20):
you maybe talk about that part like as you age,
as you grew as even when you got to Pittsburgh,
when you're towards the end, like how did you transform
yourself inside the classroom as well?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Man? You know it started young because like I knew
if I wanted to play this game, like, my goal
was always to play fourteen. I missed it by a year,
but my goal was to play fourteen years and with
me understanding what comes with that, because I know you're
not going to be as athletic that you were when
you was twenty two years old. You know there's a
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stretch to where you're going to be at a peak
and you're going to be falling off that cliff pretty soon.
So therefore you got to be ahead of the game mentally.
And I feel like being able to understand how important
film study was at a young age, like you said,
that is something that helped me stand in the league
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as long as I did, because man, these as I
got older, these these receivers are getting small and faster, yea.
So then therefore I got to be a step ahead
of them. And that's why I'm really I was really
hard on the younger guys when I was, you know,
in Minnesota and Pittsburgh. Like, man, listen, bro I was
in you guys' shoes before. Trust me, you're not going
(25:36):
to be running at four to three or whatever you're
in at the comebine. You're not going to be running
a three four years now because the seasons are long,
the off seasons are long, the grind is long, so
your body is going to doing it at some point.
So therefore you got to keep between the ears sharp
as possible.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Pat. So I want to talk about twenty fifteen, man, Okay,
like that? I don't like that. Wrong, you're going with it?
Come on, let's talk about it. Twenty fifteen Arizona Cars
had a great year. I mean both of you guys
was on that team, yes, you were. I mean we won.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Fifteen straight, fourteen straight, fifteen fifteen, fifteen straight, and we
were still having to try and win the number one
seed at fifteen because you guys are doing so well.
You guys didn't allow us.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
To take any time we should be able to rest
that we can't crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I forgot about that, yes, right there, we still had
to play.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Did I forget about it?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Just to lock up first place because arizonas having such
a brilliant year rolling?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yes, I was rolling, yeah, man.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
And then all of a sudden that that championship game,
what happened can maybe what in your eyes you tell
it from.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Your view, man, that was first of all, that was
congratulations to you guys.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You guys kicked out.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
But in that game, there's no way I thought it
was gonna be that like that.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah, me either at that time going into that game,
the injury bug really really hurt us. Like Tyron missing
Tyn was a big piece uh in our defense. Carson
Palmer Tearnis uh the in that finger ligament in the
division around against Green Bay, so he wasn't his best
(27:23):
because we leaned on Carson like we like we.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Had speed all over the yard.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So then once you guys were able to take that
away because we knew and the Steve Wilks defense, you
guys was a quarter system, so we knew that was
going to be hard getting the ball down the field correct.
Then you got Luke Keigley, who's the shriff for the defense.
You can't get nothing over his head, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So we knew it was going to be a tough,
a tough day.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
But when Carson threw that interception he tried to throw
the ball to John Brown, I said, oh man, it's
gonna be a long day.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's gonna be a long day. And they was.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I think he threw four interceptions that game, like the
one he threw right before the half.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah, that was that was a backbreaker because you guys wins. Yeah,
got that interception right before man, and then after.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That it was just it was a Cam Newton show.
After that it was Cam Newton left, Cam Newton right,
Cam Newton middle Superman. But yeah, yeah, it was uh
the injuries, the injuries hurt us going into that game.
But I definitely we knew it was going to be
a battle, but we thought it would definitely be closer.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
But you guys, you got you guys did what you.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Supposed and then from there to piggyback the rest of
your years in Arizona after that, because you think you
just be able to.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Run it back.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
We talked about that all the time, like, but you
don't get to take last year's success with you into
this year. You guys didn't have another winning season at
Arizona when you were there the rest of your tom many.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
More years were you there after that season? Five? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
So the next five years? Why was that was the
like what turned or what was that?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Injuries again?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Then Carson retired, you know then because coming into twenty
sixteen towards a c L against.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
The Rams forgot you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So it was just like we just kept getting hit
with the injury bugs, injury bug then then being retired.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, so then we bought in Steve Wilkes.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, and he was there for Yes, Bradford, Sam Bradford
who was just coming off in the edge of Philly
we drafted. He was there for a hot second like yes.
Then you know, like Steve didn't have.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Nothing to work with nothing, you know he did. Steve
Kaning was out. You know, he's not your guy, but
Steve Kanan was. I listened to your podcast. So Steve
kank got suspended.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It was just so much.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
That was it was just a man. It was just
a domino effect, man. So we just couldn't get it right.
Then we got Cliff in there, you know, Cliff had,
you know, early success, but we couldn't get over the
hump in the second half of the season, you know,
because he came in with Kyler Murray, who is a
phenomenal athlete, you know, and he's getting better now it
(30:16):
is with his leadership skills.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But now he's good.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
He's a good film. He loves the study film.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Now he has to get over the hump of winning
late in the year as well, because the record has
shown he can't win late in the year. I don't
know if it's lack of studying film, but something has
to change.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Be good. I'm great. I am so great. I love
you for that.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I appreciate that because I mean it is in this
contract though that's a whole great.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
That is a great point. I forgot.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
That's a whole different.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And how about the fact that.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Story which is bizarre, that part that too, and the
fact that his agent allowed him to put all of that.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That's that's bad. That's bad. I got one for it.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
So you said, you you finished up with thirteen, you
want to get fourteen, and I know you were still
in talks with teams and you didn't sound anybody if
a team were to call you next season, would you
still play?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Probably not?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Why because man, like I always said that if I
don't have the desire to work out, Like I.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Don't mind working out, yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Have the desire to work out. I got you, and
you guys are retired. You guys know how it is.
If you don't have the desire and you always want
to put your best foot forward, there's no need to
put yourself out there.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I always think it's really funny to me on the
inside when and it's cool, like I take it as
like a great compliment when somebody's like, man, Bro, man
like you still like you could pay you know what?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Man, I appreciate it. Right, Well, I'm going out there.
The mentality is not there, right, that's what you're saying.
Don't want to The mentality is not there.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Especially being off a whole year. Oh yeah right, I
gotta be thirty thirty five this year.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Fans don't think about that though, Like I have not
played in almost ten years, and like the Bears will
have a bad season or dB will make a bad
player or something, and it's like you're just like, Bro,
I'm forty, I'm almost forty four. I think I look good.
I appreciate the compliment, but like, bro, I'm forty four, Like,
are you seriously now you go out there pull a
(32:24):
hair straight?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, yeah, come on that way, I get you off
the box, get your I might be able to get
you about two series.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I think I can get too serious. And then it's yeah,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
From You don't even want the first two series. You
want to get like I want the tired Guy exactly
like that.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Third fourth series.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Shit, yeah, that's exactly what I want.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
So now that you're in the in the media space
like us, and you know your your TV analysts, you
got these podcasts, where do you see yourself going in
the space right now?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Man? You know, now I'm being in this rim and
have an opportunity to do so many different things. Now,
I really want to have the opportunity to commentate a
game just because you know, you hear radio or TV both, Okay,
Like I would love to be you know, on on
the on the television that you know showed this beautiful
face of mind. But I love the fact that you
(33:24):
can give like raw feedback and give someone some intel
like right then and there right after they saw the action. Yeah,
Like for me, like like I know the game inside
and out, but I feel like when I'm at a
desk and have to like break down points, it be
so much I want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Then after my head be like, damn, I forgot to
say that. I forgot to say this.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Then when I do, like my my radio hits, I
feel more fluent with the way that I'm giving the information.
I don't feel like I'm leaving anything out, anything out,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
So I went to the I went to the game
in London, the Bears play Jacksonville. I never called a
game ever in life, never practiced it, never went to
the broadcast, boot camp, never did nothing. So I get
asked to do the show or call the game. So
I think I called Rome. We talked about it for
a little bit. I got I got some tips from Rome,
and I basically did a little my own little research
(34:18):
and kind of taught myself. And I'm practicing. The day
of the game is game time and the first series
of first play the guy says something and I was like.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
It was it was like it was like a two
yard run, like it was nothing sexy about the play
and I was just like, that was good though, but
I didn't. But I knew I could have said other
things other than the play. I could have talked about,
you know, the season and how they've been going on.
But again, I had never practiced it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
And then once I finally got going, I wanted to
say more because in football, or excuse me, in radio,
you have to be so descriptive because they.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Can't see it.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
They can only hear it, right, So I would say
little things and I wanted to give more, but he's like,
hurry up, give it to me because I got to
describe the play.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
So the one thing I've.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Learned word management, like your words have to be intentional
and they have to be very specific on what you're saying.
And it was, don't get me wrong, it was I
had a good time. I had a good experience. To
ask me to do it again, I couldn't just because
of you know, my schedule, but it was it was
definitely something different. Definitely was something different. So yeah, I
(35:35):
hope you get that opportunity. It was fun, don't get wrong,
had a blast doing it. I'll think, I think you'll
be you'll be great, and you'll have fun at it.
You're naturally passionate about this game in the spot which
matters about it?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
It has to matter.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
And uh and I like it because there's going to
be a different perspective. All we see a lot of
times are offensive minds, Yes, quarterbacks from that side, offensive line.
It's always good to have from a defensive perspective. Right now,
it's a few of them in that call for Fox
and John Film was one of them. He's just like
great one of the few, because that comes from a
(36:07):
defensive perspective where we.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
See it from this side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
And a lot of times what you don't understand is
when you get really good. And I'm sure pat the
same way when you watch when you watch football on TV,
we don't watch the ball. We look at the formation,
the shift, the wheeling in the back, and then I
see all those things where the ball is going to go.
And so that's how we naturally see the game. And
so to be able to share that experience with people
(36:32):
is going to be really really good and they'll start
doing Like when I watch football with my neighbor and
he's like, you, you know, how did you know that?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I don't need Tony Romo to tell me what's going
to like, I kind.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Of got fine, exactly what I mean. So as a dB,
we kind of see it from their point of.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
View, correct, Yeah, we see it from the outside superpower
and uh, well, have you had any chances to do
any of these things.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I did go to Broadcast boot Camp in twenty twenty two,
so I had an opportunity to do all of that.
But ever since I left the Broadcast boot Camp, I
had two game reps, you know, just at my house.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I had a good friend of mine who came over
and set up some things for me, and I had
an opportunity to call a series the Minnesota versus Chicago
Bears Monday night game in Minnesota. So that was cool
because I was just doing a lot of it at home,
not really feeling the energy, feeling the crowd.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Which is different.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, so when I was there, you know, doing it
on at the actual game. Man, I got so juiced up, bro,
just watching watching the game, calling the game from up there,
you just see it from a whole nother perspective.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
We got fans right here then getting into the game.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
So you feel that you got to let the crowd
breathe none of that.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
So being at the game was even more exciting than
what you no doubt about it, No doubt I feel.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Because you know, did you go to broadcast? I did,
so you know, you just on a green screen.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
You just that it's hard. Yeah, and you're in there
for like three minutes, right.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
So they was telling me. I was like, man, it's
totally different.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I was like, yeah, that's cool, Like, but I want
to have an opportunity to experience it. And then I did,
and I was like, it is really different because like now,
when I have an interview with one of these major companies,
now I will already have experienced the live energy from
(38:32):
the crowd, so I can kind of prep myself and
bring that up to my audition.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
And so why did you feel like all this was
so important to start while you were still playing? And
because like me, I didn't do any of that until
I retired and Peanuts same way.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I just think a lot more of the younger players,
you guys get it more. Now that's something outside of
what we're just doing right in front of us.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Man, For for me, you know, when I was in
high school, I had this teacher name is Novice Johnson.
She was an English teacher on mine and she helped
me tremendously, you know, with with speeches. You know, anytime
I had to speak in front of someone, she was like, Patrick, like,
you really have a nice voice. You know, you're a
good looking young man. I think, you know, she already
(39:17):
knew I was going to be in the NFL too, Yeah,
your star.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Was already having these conversations.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
She was like, but you know, you're not going to
play football forever, you know what I mean, So I
would love for you to, you know, continue getting your
communication skills up to where when you, you know, do
walk away from the game, you can have something else
to do for another you know, ten twenty thirty years, you.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So just always having that in the back of my
mind when I was going through college.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
That is a great seed for her to play.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, Like, just always hearing that and just doing all
these interviews. It's now starting to hear it from other people.
I'm like, well, she must knew what she was talking about.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, so now like she must know what she was
talking about.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
And then the older I got, I was like Larry
Fiz Jerry used to always tell me man like, if
it is something that you want to do, make sure
you stratch scratch the iron wires hot, you know what
I mean. They always say it's tougher for the retired guys,
you know, to get into this business verse trying to
you know, make these relationships. You know, I wanted to
(40:23):
do that, and you know, if it was something I
wanted to really take serious, you know, I knew I
had to start it at some point, you know what
I mean? And then I did around year nine. That's
when I started to get like real serious about it.
And then year eleven that's when I got invited out
to the boot camp and just had my podcast now
for a couple of years. And now I feel like
(40:44):
it's just planting that seed now too. You know, when
I am, you know, officially called the Quits, I could
have a you know, a.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Lane to walk into you and be mac Brian Fadden.
What made you guys start the podcast? And who do
you guys try and bring on? It's called the All
Things Covered? Is it just the two dbs and you.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Guys are just talking ball.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
I've seen you guys are going all types of lanes
and you guys bring up all types of topics. You
guys really touch on all of it.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
The title of it is literally what we do All
things covered, trying to cover all things, and the idea
came from him, and actually I'm happy it came for
him because then that started giving me more reps at it,
you know, without going through another major network or anything
like that. But COVID came around. I know, you guys
(41:36):
remember that COVID came around. Everyone had to be inside.
He was working with CBS, well he still works with CBS,
and he was like, man, you know, I can't go
in you know, in the building. I can't go to
the Connecticut or of Florida. Those were the two spots
he was going in between. He's like, man, let's just
start a podcast.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I'm like you sure.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
I was like, uh, I don't really know much about
you know, a podcast or what we have to do
on a day to day basis or a week the
week basis, but.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I guess we could start it.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
So we ended up getting you know, CBS behind us
to agree UH to sponsor the show for UH for
a couple of years, and we did it weekly, so
you know, we had all types of guests on there
from rappers, movie stars, uh, golfers obviously ball players, but
(42:28):
we just literally just talk about what's going on in
the world, talk about basketball, football. We don't really get
into the political stuff that's out of our lane. But
everything else though, we talk about it episodes.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
So yeah, So besides golfing, besides the media, what other
ventures do you have going on right now?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Man?
Speaker 2 (42:52):
I'm a dance dad. Okay, you're one of those, one
of those, man, the commitment is real.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Nine and five. So me and my wife we just
went on vacation right uh to a wife for a week,
and your mother in law had to, you know, come
home and take care the girls.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
And mind you, they both don't go to the same place, No,
why would they do that. After the first day, she
was like, I'm just exhausted. I don't know why y'all
do it. Now I'm be ripping the rent of these
kids all around town.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
They got school, we got homework, they got we got dinner,
then we got then we got taken a two different
dance for places. It was like, I don't know how
you guys do it, but it's a joy, you know,
having an opportunity to to be able to expose my
girls to a lot of things so they can be
well rounded. So my girls are in gymnastics, dance, cheer, ballet,
(43:48):
uh uh, jazz, they swim like they got to do
the do. I was like, I literally whatever they put
their minds to, I want them to be able to
do it to where when they face a challenge in
the real world, they can be well rounded about whatever
situation or whatever challenge they may face in life.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I like that that. No, No, we we did that early. Dad.
Is commitment. Next level. Gymnastics is a commitment. It is gymnastics.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Four hours in the gym, Yes, Like you got to
just get used to the grind, Like that's what they're
going to.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Do every day and Saturdays and Sundays I've taken Yeah,
and dance.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Dad's are committed differently too, because you got to get
used to like traveling, staying in hotels, going places for
five six hours for like three minutes.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yes, yeah, Texas, Orlando.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
It's a different.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Basketball's au basketball Dad, So we had our fair shirt traveling.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
But it's fun though, man, because they enjoy it and
like I tell my wife, man, I love the fact
of doing it because you guys, was here for me.
You know throughout my you know, my kids are nine
now nine to five, but throughout her childhood, you know,
they showed up for me on Sunday, you know what
I mean. So I want to I want to do
the same thing because I missed out on so many,
(45:13):
so many things like first day of school, you know,
taking them to school.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
So like now I take full advantage of that. Mom,
I got it.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I pick them up, I drop them off, I take
them the dance practice wherever they need to go.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
That's my responsibility. Yeah, I like that. Now it's cool.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
The real question is do you keep your clubs in
the car with you when you're doing all this driving?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Because and I need to know how much golf do
you actually play? So the time I do play golf
is when they are in school. Yeah, okay, okay, I
dropped them off, and the clubs are in my trunks.
So I dropped them off.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I go go get my eighteen in. Yeah, grab me
a quick bite if I have time. Yeah, then I
go right back and wait in the carpool line. Pick
them up. We'll stop and get some Chick fil A
or lunch. Take Parker to our dance practice, Peyton doing
our homework, take her to her dance practice, go pick
Parker up, then go pick Piting up. She'll start her
homework while she's in the car. So by the time
(46:12):
she's at least halfway, at least seventy five percent done
with the homework. So to where when we get home,
because when we get home it's like seven fifteen, seven thirty. Yeah,
So now when we get home, run upstairs, get cleaned up,
come back downstairs, eat dinner, you know, you know, read
our books, or end up finishing her homework and then
it's time for bed. Like my kids, it's they almost
(46:34):
was like me when I was in my football schedule.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, yeah, I got it. Bum bum bum bum.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Like I think that's just the way of the way
of life and to really mold them into into something,
you know, very well when they get older.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Nothing wrong with the schedule, dude, nothing wrong with the schedule.
I love with them, That's what I'm saying. That's all. Yeah,
that's all we know.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
So having that structure, I think it kind of sets
the It's like the foundation.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Though.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Do you see yourself being a professional golfer? Is that
a goal? No, I'm glad you said that because a
lot of US athletes we think we can do something
else in these other sports. When you watch a real
like PGA player.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Those boys different. They are way different.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
What you got to think, like a dude on the
bench in the NBA that we think man like I
they're all way different because they've been.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Doing think they've been doing it for so long. They've
been doing it, but we can do it for that long. Pinut.
It's just not gonna be the same. I'm telling you,
these is way different. I get it.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
I just think I think y'all could do it. I'm
not gonna say me because I don't like golf like that.
I trust me. If you played golf by the time
you was I don't know, seven, eight twelve to like
where you're at right now, y'all would be a thousand
times better. And I think y'all could be professional golfers.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
That's just me. I agree.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
If we have started at a young age, yeah, to
build that muscle, memory, the flexibility, and because that's where
that's where it all comes from. That's why most football
players it's so hard for us to swing to hit
the natural draw because we're top heavy We've been lifting
weights all of our lives. We've been hitting people moving forward.
So it's tough for us to get into that slot
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unless you like, truly, truly, truly, truly work on it.
But I agree with you one hundred percent. If we
started at a young age, we will be one thousand
percent way better than what we are now.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah, my last question, thank you for not interrupting your
personal mount rushmore for people that have had influence, that
have helped you, that have molded you into what we
see today on the field.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Off the field, Louis Vuitton DoD right here in front
of I go.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
I gotta put my dad on there for sure, just
because everything that he taught me at a young age,
everything he instilled in me at a young age, as
far as my leadership skills, as far as my work ethic,
as far as my mentality, the grind he literally he
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like he instilled that in me as long as as
long as I can remember, since I was.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Like three four years old.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yeah, that's one, my grandfather. I got to put both
of them up there so we can get like split
their faces, because, like I told you guys earlier, my
parents had me at a young age, and I was
fortunate enough to have both sets of my grandparents. Only
have one of them one grandfather left now, but I
was fortunate to have both sets of my grandparents, So
(49:29):
I saw them as my parents, like because when my
mom was waking up going to work, my grandparents was
taking me to school, you know, my grand my grandpa
was picking me up. And I learned a lot of
my life values and the way I treat my wife
from my grandfathers, like the way they ran their household,
the way they respect their wives, respect their wives decisions,
(49:54):
respect their own wanted them to be them their own selves,
you know what I mean. So when I saw that,
I was like, man, I want to be like them,
like I want to be able to treat my wife
and my kids. My family have the same family values
as my grandfather's, so I believe. And I've been married
going on thirteen years now, which is you know something
(50:15):
that I feel like my grandparents helped instilled in me
into my marriage as well. So that's two two faces
on one. Number three. I gotta go with Prime. You know,
me and Prime have a really close personal relationship. I've
known Prime since entering the draft. You know, we have
tons and tons of conversations. And the reason I put
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Prime on there is because being a kid from Pampo
No Bee's, Florida, watching him when he was with Dallas
and San fran Like, I wanted to be that, right,
Like I wanted to be like Prime because he was
not only a defensive back, like he changed the game
in every down, first, second, third, and fourth found because
(50:58):
he was a great pump returner as well. So like
just seeing that how he literally transcend the game, like
I wanted to be a part of that, or at
least come close to that.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
And number five, I mean number four I would have
to go with.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
And I never met this guy a day in my life.
Kobe Bryant, Oh, never met in a day of my life.
And I've been a fan of that dude since nineteen
ninety seven, and I had multiple opportunities to meet him,
but with me being a competitor every opportunity I had
to meet him, they lost the game, and my wife
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still she'll beat me up about it to this day.
And that's why I named my dog Kobe, by the way.
But I got to put Kobe up there because, like
I said, I never met him before. But watching him
from afar, his mentality, his demeanor, his will to win,
his competitor nature, like that is an ultimate competitor, like
(51:58):
just everything that he stood for. Like I wanted to
instill some of those values in my game as well.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
You know you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
So, like I said, he when he passed, Man, I cried,
and like I said, I never even met him before.
Had opportunities, but never even met him. Ended up buying
a dog the like maybe six months later, and I
named him cobD. Well, you got your covie out of it,
I got my COVID out of.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
It, all right, Pat Man, I appreciate it. Man, thanks
for blessing us with your time. Man, appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Hop if we get on the links one time. Man,
I didn't know you were in Georgia. Yeah, anytime I'm around,
I definitely try to reach out and it Man, for real,
I did not know that. But anyway, thank you so
much for man tuning in checking us out as always,
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Speaker 2 (52:56):
Peanut man, get us up out of here. Don't forget to.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Watch us on our NFL YouTube channel. I got you.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
You're cool. I'm Peanut.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
That's wrong, that's Pat P And this is the NFL
Player's Second Act podcast, and we out
First of all, they said he rant me over. I
was like, how could he have ramped me over? When
I was diving on this guy, you know, from getting
on diving on it from the back, you know, how
could he have ranted me over?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
But he did drag me a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Thank you for tuning in to the NFL Player's Second
Act podcast. I'm Peena Tillman and with me as always
as I got my guy, Roman Harper. Oh, I like
that shirt man.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thanks Penut.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm feeling the mister Rogers vibe right now. You got
a mister Rogers vibe thing.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You got the.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Foot the lay across.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
It's called a card again, and yes it is something
like that. So I appreciate that. I'm really excited for
this guest. I've never really got to sit down. I've
only got to admire this guy's career from afar. Never
really got to sit down spend a lot of time
with him. Yeah, very envious of a lot of things
he's been able to accomplish. Really really proud of everything
he's got done. And it's three DB's out here, baby,
(00:56):
so he sarn is three D three DB's together.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
It's gonna be a good one. You know, introduced who
We have.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Played thirteen seasons in the NFL, the number fifth pick
overall in the twenty eleven draft, went to LSU Pro
Bowl for his first eight seasons, three time All Pro,
twenty ten All Decade Team. Now, he does a lot
of stuff. He's an analyst, he's a radio host, and
he hosts a couple of different podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Also avid golfer and is.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
An avid golfer. I don't know if he's a good golfer,
but he's an avid golfer. Right, that's a whole nother story.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
All the way to be good is you got to
be avid about it.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
He be out there, Nazi German or con Patrick Peterson
to the pod.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Appreciate you guys, appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
The golf game, what's what's let's talk about the golf
real quick. Every every one we get, every every person
we get on the show, he's all he y'all have
this conversation. I can do the first eight holes of golf,
maybe nine, and I get bored and I'm done. I
like the speed golf. We played speed golf in LA
and it was great. So I don't know what hotel
we said that it had the hotel with the golf
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course in the bag. It's just too slow.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's boring. Man, I love golf. It's just for me.
It just puts me in a different.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Place, you know, Like it's almost like football, like the
outside world is. It doesn't matter to me anymore for
those four hours. Now, I know that for these four hours,
I'm gonna be with some good guys, gonna have a
great conversation, and nothing else matters but trying to play
good golf obviously, but also amend some different friendships that
(02:34):
I may not even thought about having.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And Pat you can probably talk about this too.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It's like it's something we said about not mastering a craft,
like you just every day you're working at it and
it's always something that you can improve on. I don't
think we all get that in every day in life,
where it's still something like to be yet to scratch
or I got to get after it just a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Icket.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
It's always something and even your best shots, not even
the best shot right, still something to be worked upon.
So that's what I like. I love about golf. I'm
I'm addicted to it. I gotta be honest, I'm an
avid golfer as well. I'm trying to be like you
with a handicap. Man, I'm probably probably a sixteen seventeen okay, yeah,
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I mean how long you been playing for?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Not long enough? Gotcha?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
What's my handicap?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I mean you're in the twenties, so you want to
be a low handicap yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm five.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Oh So he's like he's right there questioning it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Like for me, I just want to be in the
mid eighties by the end of by the time I
start back football season against gotcha. So I want to
continue to work on that. But that's going to be
I got it. I got to place my drop, my
t shots got to be improved, so I got a
chance to score.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So when you practice, do you practice more on the
range or you go out on the course on the range?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Bad place?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I agree it range don't let don't tell you because
you got to You got to get comfortable seeing the
shot and hitting the shot.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And not only that the range is level flat, you
got to go out there and practice the actual shots
you're going to be hitting on the course. So like
for me, I don't practice on the range at all.
Like if I go play I'm play by myself. Maybe
get like three or footballs and just hit them and
just keep a team working on different shots.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Go, this is a football podcast.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Credit, get back to football, right, Let's talk about some dbs.
All right, bring it back? So bring it back? You
want you want to start this one?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You not want to start football And I'll come on
the offense on this.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So Pat and you and you, I will give you credit.
I think you're probably one of the guys that started this.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
L s U is DBU. I would debate that you're
wrong on that.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Okay, I think Alabama by far is way more DBU
than l s U. And I would assume Ohio State
has something to say about that too. But to me,
those are the three bill ones and I think Lash's
at the bottom of that cat.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Wow damn bottom. Yes, how many Jim Thorpe Alabama got?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh yeah, yeah. I don't go off of just Thorpe awards.
This is what you're going off of.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I'm just going off of production and guys in the league.
You got some stats back then. I mean I got
definitely do I didn't know if you want to do it.
Do you want to defend yourself first or you want
me to just start spinning.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And you can go. You know you brought it up.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So I want to hear, okay, well split away, spit
away my dipper friend.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Well, Pat Peterson, all right, twenty eleven, first round draft pick.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Let's just go off a first round draft pick, first
round first doing. All right, we don't have we have
three first rounders. Well, no, you got more than that.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You got Mo Clayborn twenty twelve, Eric Reed, I give
him credit twenty thirteen, Jamal Adams, Andrew Davis White twenty seventeen,
and the last one twenty twenty two. Derek Stingley, and
you Grant Delpitt second round. Grant went second, Yes he did.
Damn okay bad senior year. Should have left junior year. Yeah, yep,
(05:59):
So then go I was ready. I was figure in
the area. Yeah. So we can start as recently as
twenty twenty four for Alabama Terry on Arnold. I won't
count kool Ai mcinstry, who was the second round pick
pastser Tan the highest paid dB.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, ain't up for the defensive player.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
There, It is, all right, yep, twenty twenty one. Minka
Fitzpatrick twenty eighteen. Marlon Humphrey another first round pick, Shout
out Alabama.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
He's from Alabama.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Marlon Humphrey two at twenty seventeen, Landon Collins from Louisiana
right here in the city of New Orleans twenty fifteen,
Hahi Clinn Dix Florida Cat twenty fourteen, Mark bars Ready
twenty twelve, Drey Kirkpatrick, both from the state of Alabama
twenty twelve as well. And I'm not even going about
(06:54):
Trayvon Diggs and Xavier McKinnon, who was another pro bowler
for by the Green Bay Packers, because they were both
second round pick. But I'm just saying DBU is probably
the University of Alabama high Tide, no high time, Go Elephants.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Nobody says that. I'm definitely not saying nothing about no
dang on tie.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So you can say go Elephants. You can say that,
go Elephants. That's still giving them a reference. So but
I mean, yeah, I mean wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You you put together a listen, you definitely was ready
to claim the throne.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But you were talking about you're talking about the first
round of guys, and you're you're asking me a question,
who are who is the real DBU.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I'm going to go off of.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Just what the guys did in college in the awards
that we want.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
In college.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Minka was the second or the third player in college
history to win the Jim Thorpe inter Bet.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
There, I was a second.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Tyron, he won major wards, he was a Heisman finalist.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
If you would have finished, I think that was another
thing too kind of got shook up that last week.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I will say, you guys have have had more first
rounders than us, but I feel like the guys in
college we had more production.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I can't deny that. I think. I think what you
between you and Tyron and wearing the number seven, I
think it's something special about that as well. And maybe
you can go into that too, like does your swag
automatically go up when you put on the number seven
jersey at LSU?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
No doubt about it, because more confidence. You have more
confidence and you have to think about it a dB.
You never really saw number seven on a dB before,
Like that's always been an offense position or a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, you know so.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And when I had the opportunity to rock the number,
you know, finally, less miles giving me an opportunity to
you know, catch some punt returns and you know, take
them back to the house. It was just something like
people saw aura about the number seven. It was almost
like if you if you had the number seven, it
was almost like you was Jesus, Like you couldn't do
(08:57):
anything wrong. Everything was fall right for you. You was
gonna make damn there every play. It was like everything
was meant for, meant for it to happen, you know.
So yeah, I'm definitely happy and proud to say that
I started that tradition.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I agree. And when I went back and looked, I'm like, damn,
he really did start that.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
We got office of Lineman's wearing it now Will And
the crazy thing about it, they came up with the
I guess like a slogan. It's called the impact number.
So if you rock at number seven, your impact player.
And that was the first time that I've ever seen
it's so unique to where Will couldn't he couldn't wear
the number seven.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They made a patch for him.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, so that's how significant the number seven now is
in l SU history.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Hey, where is it a practice? You can't wear it
in the game? Yes, I like that though. That's a
good story.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's like a little tradition. I like the culture of it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's that's good.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So how many times do people actually bring up that play?
Betwe when when you were in college with L.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
S U talking about out the bounce?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Which player we no, not the Alabama Alabama out of one.
I'm talking about when Cam Newton supposedly ran from you.
Oh man, how often do you get this this talk
about this? I was very impressive by Camp. It was like,
I'm not even very impressive.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It was very impressed, and you.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Were kind of considered like the fastest guy in college
at the time.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I was, but I was actually coming off a block.
It was like, oh he First of all, they said
he rant me over. I was like, how could he
have ranted me over? When I was diving on this guy,
you know, from getting on, diving on it from the back,
you know, how could he have ranted me over? But
he did drag me a little bit. I will say,
I'm a guy like we all players, We've been in
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tough meetings before. We got tough skin. It is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
We all got got got before exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I just took it on the chain. It was a
hell of a play by Cam. But It wasn't what
everybody made it out.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I was always wanted to hear from you because I've
never seen times and I was like, oh, do you
know who I can ask about this because this is
a play that everybody always talks about.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It was Cam's like heismanbo That moment came down to
the fast running back. He broke, he broke, He broke
the play for like sixty yards like Cam Newton was
running all over the yard, but they only had twenty
four points, so they was driving the ball up and
down the yard, but we kept getting getting them off
the field on fourth downs. Yeah, and that one I
cannot remember the running backs name, but that joker was fast.
(11:26):
Almost ran him down though, but he was a trick
he was. He was like a trick play guy. But
that sucker was rolling down the sideline. And that's pretty
much iceter game. We had no business and being in
that game, but we found a way.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Keep you close.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Defense keeps you close.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
You had the mad Hatter as your head coach.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
And did eating eating up grass and stuff. I'm glad
somebody finally admitted that because.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That was good.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
We're going to take a short break and we'll be
back in a minute, doing a little bit of research
about you for this podcast. Come to realize I didn't
know Peterson wasn't your It wasn't what it is your
last name, Yes, but I didn't I didn't know you
changed it was it was a Johnson.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Talked about why you went from Johnson to Peterson man.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, I don't get asked that question very often. But
back when I was born, my parents had me at
a very young age. My mom was eighteen, my dad
was twenty, and in my mom household, if you're not married,
you're not getting you're not getting the dad's last name.
You're gonna you know, you're gonna get the mom's last name.
So my mom last name is Johnson. So had Patrick
(12:40):
Johnson all the way up into high school my senior year,
but my parents ended up getting married my sophomore year
and I was a very dominant player, and my dad
and my parents did not want any conflict coming up
and like, oh, why he's changing his name now, or
it was something it was something that was going to
happen that they wanted me to sit out a year
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if I changed my name. It was it was just
trying their best just to keep me off the football field.
So my dad was like, screw it, We're just gonna
change your name when you when you go off there.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
LSU.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So as soon as I graduated, all the documents, everything
was signed. As soon as I graduated in January, because
I graduated school early, I changed my last name to Peterson.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
That's cool, And hey, how did your dad receive that?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He thought it was dope because you know, my dad
was a football player, you know, he played ball, but
a you know, heart murmur, you know, kept him short
of fulfilling his dreams. So I think it was like,
you know, damn, now I get to see, you know,
my last name on the back of a jersey. Yeah,
and that's he put so much you know, effort and
(13:42):
molding me as far as my work ethic, far as
how I approached the game, you know what I mean.
So I knew that it meant something to him on
how much you know, he dedicated his time to make
sure that I was well prepared for the position that
I ended up being in, playing thirteen years, you know,
going to college and having a pretty healthy college a
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high school career.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, I think it was a little bit more than healthy.
I appreciate that humility today. But I'm gonna get you
up out of that.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
So you are a five star rated player in high school.
So you a little bit more than healthy career. All right,
you're rang one of the top players, if not the
top player, especially in your position. Coming out of high school.
You coming to college, you have a dominant college career.
You you kind of start up this whole LSUDB thing.
You came into the league, pat.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You were dominant.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
You had a great rookie first year, like Peanut said,
your first eight years you went to the Pro Bowl.
And another little nugget, you're one of only three people
to do that, all right in NFL history. It's beautiful.
Before the age of twenty eight. Yep, that's another little
small nugget. But you got another in the cap.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You got in young, you bad and how does it
feel to be that? Damin?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I believe I always played above my age. Like for
an example, I remember getting kicked off a football team
when I was six years old. When I'm playing with
the seven and eight years old in my first game,
I scored three times. So when I scored that many
touchdowns and now all with my size I looked apart
(15:21):
like I was, you know, a seven or eight year old,
although I was six. So I scored those three touchdowns.
The league of playing pompin no Tigers, I'll never forget it.
The league official comes to our games like this kid's
too old, Like where's this pirth certificate? So they pull
out the birth certificate, found out I was too young.
(15:42):
Then schooling everybody I was too young, got kicked off
the team, then had to come back, you know the
following year, and ended up that's kind of like when
my football career took off. But just always playing with
the old the kids. I felt like that that was
(16:02):
something that I needed to do because I was always
light year light years above you know, my peers people
that was around my age, and I was always bigger
than them.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Then when I got to.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
High school, I'm just an ultra competitor man, like whatever
I do, I want to put my best foot for.
And I had this goal set up even when I
was a kid. My mom can tell you this, like
I always had dreams and aspirations that I was going
to be in the NFL. It wasn't like if I
make it, it was like, no, when I make it.
This is going to happen. This is how I wanted
(16:36):
to happen. So I'm a guy that loves to manifest things,
you know what I mean. I'm a guy that love
to speak things into an existence. So even as a kid,
I was a high schools like, when I get to
high school, I'm doominate do this. When I get to college,
it ain't gonna fall off. I want to do this
when I get to the league. I want to be
remembered forever and be able to have an opportunity to
(16:57):
have my name called a football heaven because that's why
I played game, you know what I mean. So that
was just always my mindset. That was always it was
always something motivating me.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I was never satisfied. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
So with that, with that mindset of just always wanted
to be the greatest, when did you get put on
your ass?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Like, what was that?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Welcome to the NFL moment for you?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Welcome to the NFL moment. I'll probably I have to
say against you wasn't on the team. It was against
Carolina Panthers Cam Newton the rookie year. Oh yeah, yeah,
so I wasn't there. Okay, So you came around what
he got there?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Fourteen? Okay, got it? So boom.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
My first game, it was actually had to welcome to
the NFL moments in that.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Okay, didn't they play against you all this first game? Yes,
that was his first NFL game, first NFL game.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yes, so crazy, Welcome to the I guess what I'm
going up against?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Steve Smith. Steve Smith, so.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Lean up into the game, Adrian Wilson, Dartnell, Doe kad Yeah,
Kalais Campbell a man because coach then to know, so
Danceby had just left the winning Miami and then he
came back. So I played with dance So all the
old heads like, man, listen, man, Steve Smith, man, listen,
(18:20):
don't say nothing to him.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Just leave him alone. True statement.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'm like, all right, cool. I mean, I'm a rookie.
I'm just still trying to find my way. I don't
have much to say anyway. All right, let me see
what how it is. Get in the game. They sent
me on the corner blitz. I think it was like
the first drive of the game, Steve go for eighty,
but it wasn't on me, but I blitzed. Steve made
sure he found me though, because apparently he knew that
(18:46):
I was going to be his assignment. Like I was
following him for the most part. So after that play,
he you know, he let me here, we go down
and score. So now they back on the field. You know, Steve,
he loves the block. He do all the dirty ro Yeah,
the ball on the opposite side of the field. I
can't even remember who was the running back men men,
Steve just almost brother in law in it, you know,
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running down the field and he just chucked me like
that was about he said, yeah, young blood, welcome to
the league. Was like, so these boys wasn't lying like
this dude is. He's really crazy. So that was my
that was my first welcome to the NFL moment. Then
he ended up scoring on me too, and he stepped
over me. That was that was pretty So this is
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all Smitty's avenue, but I was disrespect so then check
this out. So that was that was a touchdown. When
Smitty scored on me, that was a touchdown. That tied
the game. Okay, so now our offense go down, we
get throwing out. Then they we punted the ball off
of them to pretty much try to It's like seven
minutes left, so we pumped the ball off of them
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and they end up driving a little bit. They get
the midfield, we stop him six minutes left in the game.
Pumped me the ball. I take it back nine yards,
but the game win a touchdown. So I had kind
of two Welcome to the NFL moments in one game.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I like that. You know, we talked about that.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
So your rookie year, defensively, I was just looking at
the numbers. You didn't just like dominate numbers wise, but
you did have four point returns for touchdown that year,
and so that's what got you kind of boom boom, Okay,
oh now, oh this guy legit is for real, for real.
And then your second year you had seven interceptions. I'm confused, though,
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as fast as you are, you've only ran two interceptions
back for touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah wow, because I'm a man and man guy. And
you got to think about it too. Room when my
interceptions came from majority with my back towards the quarterback.
So now when I'm finding a ball, I have to
adjust and catch the ball in the receivers right there
nine times out of ten, and you know, then he's
bringing me down to the ground the most, the most
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yards I've ever got off my interceptions when I was
in zone, so when I can see the ball and
kind of navigate where then but every all majority of
my interception came in man to where I had to
adjust to the quarterback and you know, find the football
and obviously I'm right there with the receiver, so he's
bringing me down.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Now it turns out of ten I was.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
That's one stat I just like man. I just did
not would have thought it would have been eight. Yeah,
because I've seen you get in the zone, but it's
mostly pump return So that's that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I did not know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
That you got what you gotta touchdown telling me you
that I got two years agovel okay, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
I was like, there's no way I got the same
amount as that's really how I got that. There's no way,
but like you got to there's no way, but.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
What pum returns you for for?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
But you know what's crazy about how you said I
had the four pump returns my rookie year. I struggled
as a defender, though I was necessarily I struggle. I
had had ebbs and flows as a defender my rookie year,
but scoring those touchdowns gave me confidence.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That I could still be out here, not only that,
that I belong here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So now let's put it all together. Now I understand
how teams want to attack me. Now let's put all
my focus on how to be a better defender.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, you know what I mean. Because at the end
of the day, when.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I was when I when I was, uh, you know,
as a pump returner, those were dynamic plays like I
want games with that, you know what I mean. So
I won't necessarily say my focus was, you know, solely
on that, but I was having so much fun doing
I was looking forward to doing that, you know what
I mean. So after that year, it gave me confidence like, yeah,
pe man, you belong Like, let's do what you what
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you really are here to be.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And that's the one of the best.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Part about that struggle though, Understanding how teams wanted to
wanted to attack me, under Understanding the different splits, because
you know, coming from college, the numbers are, you know,
three yards away on.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
The sideline, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Now you're in the league, they're what twelve yards away
from the sideline, you know what I mean. So understanding
the different splits, understanding the different route combinations now because you,
like I just said, in college, everything is spread wide
open and the lead is more condensed. It's more motions,
it's more shifts, so you have to have your eyes
in the right place. There's so much more detail oriented
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in the league than it was in college. So once
I Adrian Wilson was a guy who helped me tremendous
with that on how to study film, how to read
different formations, and I believe that's what really helped slow
the game down for me, and that's how I was
able to take that next step in year two.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I just love what you're saying because I want our
viewers and our listeners to understand that's like real nfl
dB jargon right there, and that's like the evolution for
every player. Where the game truly gets to slow down
is where I'm actually seeing the whole game.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I'm not just playing a position.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
And then when it gets to that point, you sound
like a real pro, and now you're able to teach
young guys, and that's how you have that's how you
get thirteen years exactly, because you're not the same physically,
even though you're still pat p and we know how
fast you are, you'll be faster when you're forty five.
But you know what I mean, the hysical part right
continues to get us all and that's how you cause
(24:20):
you maybe talk about that part like as you age,
as you grew as even when you got to Pittsburgh,
when you're towards the end, like how did you transform
yourself inside the classroom as well?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Man? You know it started young because like I knew
if I wanted to play this game, like, my goal
was always to play fourteen. I missed it by a year,
but my goal was to play fourteen years and with
me understanding what comes with that, because I know you're
not going to be as athletic that you were when
you was twenty two years old. You know there's a
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stretch to where you're going to be at a peak
and you're going to be falling off that cliff pretty soon.
So therefore you got to be ahead of the game mentally.
And I feel like being able to understand how important
film study was at a young age, like you said,
that is something that helped me stand in the league
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as long as I did, because man, these as I
got older, these these receivers are getting small and faster, yea.
So then therefore I got to be a step ahead
of them. And that's why I'm really I was really
hard on the younger guys when I was, you know,
in Minnesota and Pittsburgh. Like, man, listen, bro I was
in you guys' shoes before. Trust me, you're not going
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to be running at four to three or whatever you're
in at the comebine. You're not going to be running
a three four years now because the seasons are long,
the off seasons are long, the grind is long, so
your body is going to doing it at some point.
So therefore you got to keep between the ears sharp
as possible.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Pat. So I want to talk about twenty fifteen, man, Okay,
like that? I don't like that. Wrong, you're going with it?
Come on, let's talk about it. Twenty fifteen Arizona Cars
had a great year. I mean both of you guys
was on that team, yes, you were. I mean we won.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Fifteen straight, fourteen straight, fifteen fifteen, fifteen straight, and we
were still having to try and win the number one
seed at fifteen because you guys are doing so well.
You guys didn't allow us.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
To take any time we should be able to rest
that we can't crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I forgot about that, yes, right there, we still had
to play.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Did I forget about it?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Just to lock up first place because arizonas having such
a brilliant year rolling?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yes, I was rolling, yeah, man.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
And then all of a sudden that that championship game,
what happened can maybe what in your eyes you tell
it from.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Your view, man, that was first of all, that was
congratulations to you guys.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You guys kicked out.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
But in that game, there's no way I thought it
was gonna be that like that.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah, me either at that time going into that game,
the injury bug really really hurt us. Like Tyron missing
Tyn was a big piece uh in our defense. Carson
Palmer Tearnis uh the in that finger ligament in the
division around against Green Bay, so he wasn't his best
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because we leaned on Carson like we like we.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Had speed all over the yard.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So then once you guys were able to take that
away because we knew and the Steve Wilks defense, you
guys was a quarter system, so we knew that was
going to be hard getting the ball down the field correct.
Then you got Luke Keigley, who's the shriff for the defense.
You can't get nothing over his head, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So we knew it was going to be a tough,
a tough day.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
But when Carson threw that interception he tried to throw
the ball to John Brown, I said, oh man, it's
gonna be a long day.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's gonna be a long day. And they was.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I think he threw four interceptions that game, like the
one he threw right before the half.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah, that was that was a backbreaker because you guys wins. Yeah,
got that interception right before man, and then after.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That it was just it was a Cam Newton show.
After that it was Cam Newton left, Cam Newton right,
Cam Newton middle Superman. But yeah, yeah, it was uh
the injuries, the injuries hurt us going into that game.
But I definitely we knew it was going to be
a battle, but we thought it would definitely be closer.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
But you guys, you got you guys did what you.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Supposed and then from there to piggyback the rest of
your years in Arizona after that, because you think you
just be able to.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Run it back.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
We talked about that all the time, like, but you
don't get to take last year's success with you into
this year. You guys didn't have another winning season at
Arizona when you were there the rest of your tom many.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
More years were you there after that season? Five? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
So the next five years? Why was that was the
like what turned or what was that?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Injuries again?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Then Carson retired, you know then because coming into twenty
sixteen towards a c L against.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
The Rams forgot you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So it was just like we just kept getting hit
with the injury bugs, injury bug then then being retired.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, so then we bought in Steve Wilkes.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, and he was there for Yes, Bradford, Sam Bradford
who was just coming off in the edge of Philly
we drafted. He was there for a hot second like yes.
Then you know, like Steve didn't have.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Nothing to work with nothing, you know he did. Steve
Kaning was out. You know, he's not your guy, but
Steve Kanan was. I listened to your podcast. So Steve
kank got suspended.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It was just so much.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
That was it was just a man. It was just
a domino effect, man. So we just couldn't get it right.
Then we got Cliff in there, you know, Cliff had,
you know, early success, but we couldn't get over the
hump in the second half of the season, you know,
because he came in with Kyler Murray, who is a
phenomenal athlete, you know, and he's getting better now it
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is with his leadership skills.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But now he's good.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
He's a good film. He loves the study film.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Now he has to get over the hump of winning
late in the year as well, because the record has
shown he can't win late in the year. I don't
know if it's lack of studying film, but something has
to change.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Be good. I'm great. I am so great. I love
you for that.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I appreciate that because I mean it is in this
contract though that's a whole great.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
That is a great point. I forgot.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
That's a whole different.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And how about the fact that.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Story which is bizarre, that part that too, and the
fact that his agent allowed him to put all of that.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That's that's bad. That's bad. I got one for it.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
So you said, you you finished up with thirteen, you
want to get fourteen, and I know you were still
in talks with teams and you didn't sound anybody if
a team were to call you next season, would you
still play?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Probably not?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Why because man, like I always said that if I
don't have the desire to work out, Like I.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Don't mind working out, yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Have the desire to work out. I got you, and
you guys are retired. You guys know how it is.
If you don't have the desire and you always want
to put your best foot forward, there's no need to
put yourself out there.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I always think it's really funny to me on the
inside when and it's cool, like I take it as
like a great compliment when somebody's like, man, Bro, man
like you still like you could pay you know what?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Man, I appreciate it. Right, Well, I'm going out there.
The mentality is not there, right, that's what you're saying.
Don't want to The mentality is not there.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Especially being off a whole year. Oh yeah right, I
gotta be thirty thirty five this year.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Fans don't think about that though, Like I have not
played in almost ten years, and like the Bears will
have a bad season or dB will make a bad
player or something, and it's like you're just like, Bro,
I'm forty, I'm almost forty four. I think I look good.
I appreciate the compliment, but like, bro, I'm forty four, Like,
are you seriously now you go out there pull a
(32:24):
hair straight?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, yeah, come on that way, I get you off
the box, get your I might be able to get
you about two series.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I think I can get too serious. And then it's yeah,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
From You don't even want the first two series. You
want to get like I want the tired Guy exactly
like that.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Third fourth series.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Shit, yeah, that's exactly what I want.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
So now that you're in the in the media space
like us, and you know your your TV analysts, you
got these podcasts, where do you see yourself going in
the space right now?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Man? You know, now I'm being in this rim and
have an opportunity to do so many different things. Now,
I really want to have the opportunity to commentate a
game just because you know, you hear radio or TV both, Okay,
Like I would love to be you know, on on
the on the television that you know showed this beautiful
face of mind. But I love the fact that you
(33:24):
can give like raw feedback and give someone some intel
like right then and there right after they saw the action. Yeah,
Like for me, like like I know the game inside
and out, but I feel like when I'm at a
desk and have to like break down points, it be
so much I want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Then after my head be like, damn, I forgot to
say that. I forgot to say this.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Then when I do, like my my radio hits, I
feel more fluent with the way that I'm giving the information.
I don't feel like I'm leaving anything out, anything out,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
So I went to the I went to the game
in London, the Bears play Jacksonville. I never called a
game ever in life, never practiced it, never went to
the broadcast, boot camp, never did nothing. So I get
asked to do the show or call the game. So
I think I called Rome. We talked about it for
a little bit. I got I got some tips from Rome,
and I basically did a little my own little research
(34:18):
and kind of taught myself. And I'm practicing. The day
of the game is game time and the first series
of first play the guy says something and I was like.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
It was it was like it was like a two
yard run, like it was nothing sexy about the play
and I was just like, that was good though, but
I didn't. But I knew I could have said other
things other than the play. I could have talked about,
you know, the season and how they've been going on.
But again, I had never practiced it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
And then once I finally got going, I wanted to
say more because in football, or excuse me, in radio,
you have to be so descriptive because they.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Can't see it.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
They can only hear it, right, So I would say
little things and I wanted to give more, but he's like,
hurry up, give it to me because I got to
describe the play.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
So the one thing I've.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Learned word management, like your words have to be intentional
and they have to be very specific on what you're saying.
And it was, don't get me wrong, it was I
had a good time. I had a good experience. To
ask me to do it again, I couldn't just because
of you know, my schedule, but it was it was
definitely something different. Definitely was something different. So yeah, I
(35:35):
hope you get that opportunity. It was fun, don't get wrong,
had a blast doing it. I'll think, I think you'll
be you'll be great, and you'll have fun at it.
You're naturally passionate about this game in the spot which
matters about it?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
It has to matter.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
And uh and I like it because there's going to
be a different perspective. All we see a lot of
times are offensive minds, Yes, quarterbacks from that side, offensive line.
It's always good to have from a defensive perspective. Right now,
it's a few of them in that call for Fox
and John Film was one of them. He's just like
great one of the few, because that comes from a
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defensive perspective where we.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
See it from this side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
And a lot of times what you don't understand is
when you get really good. And I'm sure pat the
same way when you watch when you watch football on TV,
we don't watch the ball. We look at the formation,
the shift, the wheeling in the back, and then I
see all those things where the ball is going to go.
And so that's how we naturally see the game. And
so to be able to share that experience with people
(36:32):
is going to be really really good and they'll start
doing Like when I watch football with my neighbor and
he's like, you, you know, how did you know that?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I don't need Tony Romo to tell me what's going
to like, I kind.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Of got fine, exactly what I mean. So as a dB,
we kind of see it from their point of.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
View, correct, Yeah, we see it from the outside superpower
and uh, well, have you had any chances to do
any of these things.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I did go to Broadcast boot Camp in twenty twenty two,
so I had an opportunity to do all of that.
But ever since I left the Broadcast boot Camp, I
had two game reps, you know, just at my house.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I had a good friend of mine who came over
and set up some things for me, and I had
an opportunity to call a series the Minnesota versus Chicago
Bears Monday night game in Minnesota. So that was cool
because I was just doing a lot of it at home,
not really feeling the energy, feeling the crowd.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Which is different.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, so when I was there, you know, doing it
on at the actual game. Man, I got so juiced up, bro,
just watching watching the game, calling the game from up there,
you just see it from a whole nother perspective.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
We got fans right here then getting into the game.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
So you feel that you got to let the crowd
breathe none of that.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
So being at the game was even more exciting than
what you no doubt about it, No doubt I feel.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Because you know, did you go to broadcast? I did,
so you know, you just on a green screen.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
You just that it's hard. Yeah, and you're in there
for like three minutes, right.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
So they was telling me. I was like, man, it's
totally different.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I was like, yeah, that's cool, Like, but I want
to have an opportunity to experience it. And then I did,
and I was like, it is really different because like now,
when I have an interview with one of these major companies,
now I will already have experienced the live energy from
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the crowd, so I can kind of prep myself and
bring that up to my audition.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
And so why did you feel like all this was
so important to start while you were still playing? And
because like me, I didn't do any of that until
I retired and Peanuts same way.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I just think a lot more of the younger players,
you guys get it more. Now that's something outside of
what we're just doing right in front of us.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Man, For for me, you know, when I was in
high school, I had this teacher name is Novice Johnson.
She was an English teacher on mine and she helped
me tremendously, you know, with with speeches. You know, anytime
I had to speak in front of someone, she was like, Patrick, like,
you really have a nice voice. You know, you're a
good looking young man. I think, you know, she already
(39:17):
knew I was going to be in the NFL too, Yeah,
your star.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Was already having these conversations.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
She was like, but you know, you're not going to
play football forever, you know what I mean, So I
would love for you to, you know, continue getting your
communication skills up to where when you, you know, do
walk away from the game, you can have something else
to do for another you know, ten twenty thirty years, you.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So just always having that in the back of my
mind when I was going through college.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
That is a great seed for her to play.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, Like, just always hearing that and just doing all
these interviews. It's now starting to hear it from other people.
I'm like, well, she must knew what she was talking about.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, so now like she must know what she was
talking about.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
And then the older I got, I was like Larry
Fiz Jerry used to always tell me man like, if
it is something that you want to do, make sure
you stratch scratch the iron wires hot, you know what
I mean. They always say it's tougher for the retired guys,
you know, to get into this business verse trying to
you know, make these relationships. You know, I wanted to
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do that, and you know, if it was something I
wanted to really take serious, you know, I knew I
had to start it at some point, you know what
I mean? And then I did around year nine. That's
when I started to get like real serious about it.
And then year eleven that's when I got invited out
to the boot camp and just had my podcast now
for a couple of years. And now I feel like
(40:44):
it's just planting that seed now too. You know, when
I am, you know, officially called the Quits, I could
have a you know, a.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Lane to walk into you and be mac Brian Fadden.
What made you guys start the podcast? And who do
you guys try and bring on? It's called the All
Things Covered? Is it just the two dbs and you.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Guys are just talking ball.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
I've seen you guys are going all types of lanes
and you guys bring up all types of topics. You
guys really touch on all of it.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
The title of it is literally what we do All
things covered, trying to cover all things, and the idea
came from him, and actually I'm happy it came for
him because then that started giving me more reps at it,
you know, without going through another major network or anything
like that. But COVID came around. I know, you guys
(41:36):
remember that COVID came around. Everyone had to be inside.
He was working with CBS, well he still works with CBS,
and he was like, man, you know, I can't go
in you know, in the building. I can't go to
the Connecticut or of Florida. Those were the two spots
he was going in between. He's like, man, let's just
start a podcast.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I'm like you sure.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
I was like, uh, I don't really know much about
you know, a podcast or what we have to do
on a day to day basis or a week the
week basis, but.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I guess we could start it.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
So we ended up getting you know, CBS behind us
to agree UH to sponsor the show for UH for
a couple of years, and we did it weekly, so
you know, we had all types of guests on there
from rappers, movie stars, uh, golfers obviously ball players, but
(42:28):
we just literally just talk about what's going on in
the world, talk about basketball, football. We don't really get
into the political stuff that's out of our lane. But
everything else though, we talk about it episodes.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
So yeah, So besides golfing, besides the media, what other
ventures do you have going on right now?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Man?
Speaker 2 (42:52):
I'm a dance dad. Okay, you're one of those, one
of those, man, the commitment is real.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Nine and five. So me and my wife we just
went on vacation right uh to a wife for a week,
and your mother in law had to, you know, come
home and take care the girls.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
And mind you, they both don't go to the same place, No,
why would they do that. After the first day, she
was like, I'm just exhausted. I don't know why y'all
do it. Now I'm be ripping the rent of these
kids all around town.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
They got school, we got homework, they got we got dinner,
then we got then we got taken a two different
dance for places. It was like, I don't know how
you guys do it, but it's a joy, you know,
having an opportunity to to be able to expose my
girls to a lot of things so they can be
well rounded. So my girls are in gymnastics, dance, cheer, ballet,
(43:48):
uh uh, jazz, they swim like they got to do
the do. I was like, I literally whatever they put
their minds to, I want them to be able to
do it to where when they face a challenge in
the real world, they can be well rounded about whatever
situation or whatever challenge they may face in life.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I like that that. No, No, we we did that early. Dad.
Is commitment. Next level. Gymnastics is a commitment. It is gymnastics.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Four hours in the gym, Yes, Like you got to
just get used to the grind, Like that's what they're
going to.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Do every day and Saturdays and Sundays I've taken Yeah,
and dance.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Dad's are committed differently too, because you got to get
used to like traveling, staying in hotels, going places for
five six hours for like three minutes.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yes, yeah, Texas, Orlando.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
It's a different.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Basketball's au basketball Dad, So we had our fair shirt traveling.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
But it's fun though, man, because they enjoy it and
like I tell my wife, man, I love the fact
of doing it because you guys, was here for me.
You know throughout my you know, my kids are nine
now nine to five, but throughout her childhood, you know,
they showed up for me on Sunday, you know what
I mean. So I want to I want to do
the same thing because I missed out on so many,
(45:13):
so many things like first day of school, you know,
taking them to school.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
So like now I take full advantage of that. Mom,
I got it.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I pick them up, I drop them off, I take
them the dance practice wherever they need to go.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
That's my responsibility. Yeah, I like that. Now it's cool.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
The real question is do you keep your clubs in
the car with you when you're doing all this driving?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Because and I need to know how much golf do
you actually play? So the time I do play golf
is when they are in school. Yeah, okay, okay, I
dropped them off, and the clubs are in my trunks.
So I dropped them off.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I go go get my eighteen in. Yeah, grab me
a quick bite if I have time. Yeah, then I
go right back and wait in the carpool line. Pick
them up. We'll stop and get some Chick fil A
or lunch. Take Parker to our dance practice, Peyton doing
our homework, take her to her dance practice, go pick
Parker up, then go pick Piting up. She'll start her
homework while she's in the car. So by the time
(46:12):
she's at least halfway, at least seventy five percent done
with the homework. So to where when we get home,
because when we get home it's like seven fifteen, seven thirty. Yeah,
So now when we get home, run upstairs, get cleaned up,
come back downstairs, eat dinner, you know, you know, read
our books, or end up finishing her homework and then
it's time for bed. Like my kids, it's they almost
(46:34):
was like me when I was in my football schedule.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, yeah, I got it. Bum bum bum bum.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Like I think that's just the way of the way
of life and to really mold them into into something,
you know, very well when they get older.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Nothing wrong with the schedule, dude, nothing wrong with the schedule.
I love with them, That's what I'm saying. That's all. Yeah,
that's all we know.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
So having that structure, I think it kind of sets
the It's like the foundation.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Though.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Do you see yourself being a professional golfer? Is that
a goal? No, I'm glad you said that because a
lot of US athletes we think we can do something
else in these other sports. When you watch a real
like PGA player.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Those boys different. They are way different.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
What you got to think, like a dude on the
bench in the NBA that we think man like I
they're all way different because they've been.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Doing think they've been doing it for so long. They've
been doing it, but we can do it for that long. Pinut.
It's just not gonna be the same. I'm telling you,
these is way different. I get it.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
I just think I think y'all could do it. I'm
not gonna say me because I don't like golf like that.
I trust me. If you played golf by the time
you was I don't know, seven, eight twelve to like
where you're at right now, y'all would be a thousand
times better. And I think y'all could be professional golfers.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
That's just me. I agree.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
If we have started at a young age, yeah, to
build that muscle, memory, the flexibility, and because that's where
that's where it all comes from. That's why most football
players it's so hard for us to swing to hit
the natural draw because we're top heavy We've been lifting
weights all of our lives. We've been hitting people moving forward.
So it's tough for us to get into that slot
(48:11):
unless you like, truly, truly, truly, truly work on it.
But I agree with you one hundred percent. If we
started at a young age, we will be one thousand
percent way better than what we are now.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah, my last question, thank you for not interrupting your
personal mount rushmore for people that have had influence, that
have helped you, that have molded you into what we
see today on the field.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Off the field, Louis Vuitton DoD right here in front
of I go.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
I gotta put my dad on there for sure, just
because everything that he taught me at a young age,
everything he instilled in me at a young age, as
far as my leadership skills, as far as my work ethic,
as far as my mentality, the grind he literally he
(49:02):
like he instilled that in me as long as as
long as I can remember, since I was.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Like three four years old.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yeah, that's one, my grandfather. I got to put both
of them up there so we can get like split
their faces, because, like I told you guys earlier, my
parents had me at a young age, and I was
fortunate enough to have both sets of my grandparents. Only
have one of them one grandfather left now, but I
was fortunate to have both sets of my grandparents, So
(49:29):
I saw them as my parents, like because when my
mom was waking up going to work, my grandparents was
taking me to school, you know, my grand my grandpa
was picking me up. And I learned a lot of
my life values and the way I treat my wife
from my grandfathers, like the way they ran their household,
the way they respect their wives, respect their wives decisions,
(49:54):
respect their own wanted them to be them their own selves,
you know what I mean. So when I saw that,
I was like, man, I want to be like them,
like I want to be able to treat my wife
and my kids. My family have the same family values
as my grandfather's, so I believe. And I've been married
going on thirteen years now, which is you know something
(50:15):
that I feel like my grandparents helped instilled in me
into my marriage as well. So that's two two faces
on one. Number three. I gotta go with Prime. You know,
me and Prime have a really close personal relationship. I've
known Prime since entering the draft. You know, we have
tons and tons of conversations. And the reason I put
(50:38):
Prime on there is because being a kid from Pampo
No Bee's, Florida, watching him when he was with Dallas
and San fran Like, I wanted to be that, right,
Like I wanted to be like Prime because he was
not only a defensive back, like he changed the game
in every down, first, second, third, and fourth found because
(50:58):
he was a great pump returner as well. So like
just seeing that how he literally transcend the game, like
I wanted to be a part of that, or at
least come close to that.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
And number five, I mean number four I would have
to go with.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
And I never met this guy a day in my life.
Kobe Bryant, Oh, never met in a day of my life.
And I've been a fan of that dude since nineteen
ninety seven, and I had multiple opportunities to meet him,
but with me being a competitor every opportunity I had
to meet him, they lost the game, and my wife
(51:35):
still she'll beat me up about it to this day.
And that's why I named my dog Kobe, by the way.
But I got to put Kobe up there because, like
I said, I never met him before. But watching him
from afar, his mentality, his demeanor, his will to win,
his competitor nature, like that is an ultimate competitor, like
(51:58):
just everything that he stood for. Like I wanted to
instill some of those values in my game as well.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
You know you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
So, like I said, he when he passed, Man, I cried,
and like I said, I never even met him before.
Had opportunities, but never even met him. Ended up buying
a dog the like maybe six months later, and I
named him cobD. Well, you got your covie out of it,
I got my COVID out of.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
It, all right, Pat Man, I appreciate it. Man, thanks
for blessing us with your time. Man, appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Hop if we get on the links one time. Man,
I didn't know you were in Georgia. Yeah, anytime I'm around,
I definitely try to reach out and it Man, for real,
I did not know that. But anyway, thank you so
much for man tuning in checking us out as always,
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Speaker 2 (52:56):
Peanut man, get us up out of here. Don't forget to.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Watch us on our NFL YouTube channel. I got you.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
You're cool. I'm Peanut.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
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