February 11, 2025 • 37 mins
On the latest NFL Players: Second Acts podcast, Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon and Pro Bowl tight end Jimmy Graham sit down with hosts Peanut and Roman. Warren Moon talks about how growing up with six sisters influenced him, being a black quarterback at a time when it was rare, and promotes his charity work with Gear Up Against Cancer.
Then Jimmy Graham explains why he plans to row across the arctic, how he learned to fly a plane, and his work with the Jimmy Graham Foundation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So that tights file that we've all seen come out
your hand in the slow motion. Yes, sir, you're you're
giving the credit to the fingernecks.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
That has something to do with it. Of course I
have an arm, and I got a tour so and
I got legs that all go into the throw. But yeah,
what made him spin extra nice was was the fingernail man.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
What's up? Everybody on Peanut Tooman And this is the
NFL Player's Second Acts podcast and with him as always,
Matrich co host mister Roman Harper. All right, man, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
We're here a radio row. It's gonna be a This
is gonna be an excellent one.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
This guy, our next guest, has become a good friend. Yeah,
and I love talking to this show man. He's one
of the most respectful gentlemen you'll meet here at join
the Super Bowl. Salut, So go ahead, pinut. I'm supposed
to not read all of his accomplishments, but this thing
is so long. First off, the only player in the
Canadian and the Pro Football Hall of Fame, a nine
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time pro bowler, won the Great Cup five times, and
like myself, he's a Walter Payton Man of the Year
Award winner Ladiship. Please welcome more Moon.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yes? Are you going to lunch in the moment, I.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Am going to Yes, Sorry, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
That's one of the most honored awards that I wanted
throughout my career? Is that one?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Why was that?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I think it what it stands for. It stands for
your play on the field, but it also stands for
what you do in your community. And that's something that's
always been important to me because of the way I
was raised and how the community helped me get to
where I am today. It wasn't for organizations like I
had in my community, whether it's a boys club or
cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, stuff like that, vacation Bible School.
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If I wouldn't have done all those different things, who
knows where my life would have been coming up in
the south central Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So it kept me on the straight and narrow.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It kept me in positive environments, and he kept me
being active. And I had mentors around me because my
dad died when I was seven, so my mom got
me involved in sports and things just keep me around
other boys and other mentor men in my life.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And my mentors were my coaches.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So you used to keep your fingernails like extra tight
just so you could throw the rock, right, Is that
still a thing?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And what started this for you? Well, I think good
grooming started for me with my upbringing. My dad passed,
so I was I grew up with six sisters and
my mom, so it was me and six seven girls
in the house, right, So I learned all the stuff
that girls did. They took care of their nails, they
took care of heir. When I had here, I made
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sure I was lotioning down. I mean everything that this
is supposed to to take care of yourself. I did
growing up, and my nails were something that I wanted
to always take care of. But when I was playing
my forefingernail, if it was the right length, my boss
spun like nobody I ever knew, you know, And if
it wasn't right, it affected me mentally.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So that tights file that we've all seen come out
your hand in the on slow most. Yes, sir, you're
given the credit to the fingernails.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
That has something to do with it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Of course, I have an arm, and I got a torso,
and I got legs that all go into the throw.
But yeah, what made it spin. Extra nice was was
the fingernail length. And if you looked at the balls
that I threw saying warm ups or whatever brand new footballs,
you look at them, they had.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Cut marks in them as they came off my fingernail.
Boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So we were talking to Joe Montent a little bit
earlier and he talked about how what the quarterbacks are
able to do with the balls. Did that really make
a difference with you? Like getting a ball fresh out
of the box.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I didn't like a fresh ball. I wanted my ball
beat up. I liked a little bit older ball. The
kickers there, punters and kickers would take care of the
ball because they didn't like them. Knew either, So they
put them in the dryer. They did all kinds of stuff,
scuffed them up, and I liked them like that. So
they did them like that on Friday if we had
a home game, to get them ready for the game
on Sunday. When those balls were right, I was right.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh, I like that. So have you ever looked at
combining your CFL stats with your NFL stats?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
People have done that with me.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
It's a lot of yards, but fifty three to be exact,
that's a lot of yards.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, my arms started hurting. You said that number got
That's a lot of throws, man, a lot of throws.
But you know what, based off what my career was
in the beginning and what people thought, even going all
the way back to high school, I had high school
coaches that didn't want me to play quarterback.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
What they want you to play.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Wide receiver or defensive back, which is what they wanted
us all to play. We were the skill guys. We
weren't supposed to be able to think. We weren't supposed
to be able to throw, we weren't supposed to be
able to lead all those different things that that quarterbacks
asked to do. And that was there was a mentality
back then, a stereotype back then we couldn't do that.
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You can't call it racism because there's too many any
other African Americans at every other position, but for that position,
that was racism.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, I'm just thankful that you got the tough skin
and you persevere through and you continue to play, because
there are a lot of guys in this league right
now that are playing that position because of you. Or
we got two in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And yeah, this is the second time this has happened,
and the first time it happened two years ago, I
was I mean, I'm proud now, but I was proud
then because we had had one at other times, like
Russell Wilson went against Tom Brady and there were other guys,
But when you had two, I'm like, whoa, the chess
went out just a little bit further, because this is
one of the things that I fought for when I
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was being defying about playing this position. Not so much
for me to play it, but I also knew there
was a responsibility by me. Doug Williams we talk about
it all the time when he played at the same
time Randald Cunningham, we were in the league all at
the same time, and we talked about it all the time.
We knew we had more responsibility than just our football
team and our organization. It was a bigger responsibility that
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if we played well, other guys were going to get
a chance.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
How much of a responsibility is it to not only
just play well, but be looked upon as ultimately a
great leader of what a great quarterback quote unquote it
is supposed to look like when you three don't look
like everybody else's qual right, And that's that's.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
What playing the quarterback position is all about. Can we lead?
Can we be the face of a franchise. Can we
be the guy that the owner wants to take with
him to the country club and introduce them.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
To all his buddies.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
All that played a part in it, the whole visual
of the whole thing, you know, do you want this
guy to be your guy? And I had to act
a certain way during that. I had to make sure
like I dressed the right way, and I looked the
right way, and I was groomed.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
And because you wanted to, you wanted.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
To make sure you showed up well for your owner,
because again that was going to help other guys get
that opportunity, and maybe what I was doing other guys
would follow when they came along.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So you won five Great Cups, that's the Canadian Super Bowl. Yes,
would you trade one or two any Great Cup, amount
of Great Cups for Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I mean, because that's what you play the game for,
to win championships. Yeah, And I definitely played every year
in this league to win a championship. And if I
could have won a Super Bowl, I would have done
everything that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I ever thought about doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
In the National Football League, I did a lot of
things that I never thought I would do, Like when
Walter Payton Man of the Year, I never thought I
would win one of those or different awards that I won.
But you always go into season all thirty two teams
want to win a Super Bowl, right, and only so
many of them really have a realistic chance to do it.
So I wish I could have done that, but I didn't.
I had my opportunities. It wasn't like I didn't have
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opportunities to do it. We just didn't get it done.
So on the other side, I did way more than
I ever thought I would do in the game, you know,
when I finished, where I was and all the different things,
being inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I
never set that as a goal. You set that as
a goal? Did you just set that as a goal?
I just wanted to win a Super Bowl? Yeah, yeah.
And you wanted to have a good career. You want
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to have a long career. You can't even think about
the Hall of Fame until you play at least a
good eight nine years of really good football. So I
never thought about stuff like that. So I'm glad I
was able to accomplish those things. But even though I
have five of the other ones, Yeah, I'd love to
have one of those. Yeah absolutely, And I do have
one as as a broadcaster for the Seahawks when they
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beat Denver.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I got one for that, but it wasn't for my
play on the field.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And McCaffrey got one.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Mcca got one, so whatever it takes a good one,
I got one. But I would love to be in.
I want to be up on that podium.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely So Aaron Rodgers is forty two. Do
you think he will return for this next upcoming season.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think he will. I just don't know where. I
don't know if if the Jets are the team for him.
We have to see with their new staff. They got
a new general manager and new coach. Let's see what
Aaron Glenn wants to do.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
He just brings a lot. He just brings a lot
to the table, you know, wherever he goes. And you
have to as a new coach coming in, do you
want that or not? But he can still play. I
mean he's on the top half of guys in this league,
so why.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Not besides yourself, who throws a pretty ball.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I like Matt Stafford. Oh yeah, oh my god, he
can sling it. He still can sling. He can.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I like guys who can throw from different platforms. Everything
is just not like Tom Brady was perfect, you know,
it was everything from the product. But guys like Stafford,
Patrick Mahomes, I like Jayden Daniels ball. Yes, it comes
out quick.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Lamar started to change his arm angles to now a
lot more. Now he's not over the top. He's a
lot of guys can.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Do that are going to be much more effective when
you because you can't always throw perfect feet, perfect form.
You got to be able to throw from differ from
different platforms and angles. And the guys that can do
that and still throw with accuracy and velocity, those guys
are going to be the more successful passers.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So those are the.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Guys I tend to like a lot because that's what
I did a lot when I played, especially when we
were running shoot. I was always on the move throwing
the football. So yeah, I like those guys.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
What do you look for in a great quarterback, Like,
what are the attributes?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Of course you want him to have the physical gifts.
He doesn't have to have a rocket arm or anything
like that. But you want him to have accuracy over velocity.
Accuracy is so much more important than velocity. You love
to have velocity when you need it. Sometimes you need
to call on that throw when you want to throw
that deep dig across the middle or whatever, and you
got to zip it between two or three different guys.
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But accuracy is much more important anticipation being able to
have movement got to be a little bit more athletic,
especially in today's game.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You got to be able to move a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And the guys who are having the most success today
can move and by time and make things happen or
take off and run. But more importantly than that, you
can't see. They got to have that heart and that toughness.
And that's what I love about Patrick Mahomes. I think
he's the most competitive, in the toughest of all the
quarterbacks playing today. Josh Allen is a lot like that,
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Lamar is a lot like that. But Patrick has something extra.
He has an extra gear in the fourth quarter, yeah,
or on that certain drive when he feels like he
needs to make a play and if he can't make
it with his arm, he'll make it any way he
possibly can. So that's something you look for in quarterbacks,
and you can't measure that until you actually have seen
a guy play in certain situations. But that heart is something, yeah,
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that I really look at in quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, he's definitely finding a way to win those games.
Tell us about some of the work you're doing with
gear Up Cancer.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, we're we have a gear Up Cancer campaign with
the NFL alumni and we're encouraging people to get out
and get screened for cancer. Colorectal cancer is one of
the leading causes of the death in our country. A
lot of people don't know that you can be walking
around whether it not is not detected right until it's
too late. So we're telling people to get out and
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get those examinations because that's one of the best ways
to find out if you have something like that. Because cancer,
it really affects not only a lot of people's lives
for the individual, but also the family, the friends. It
affects everybody. And I just lost my god I'm im
to cancer about three months ago, and I have a
buddy right now that has brain cancer. I have another
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buddy that has stage four colon cancer. So it's everywhere,
and we got to do something to get rid of it.
But in the process until that happens, with all the
research that we're doing to try and find cures for it,
go out and get screened, and that's all we're telling
people to do. Just take that extra step so we
can get it as early as possible. And we do
have a lot of things out there that can help
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fight against it.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Well, I'm a product of that. My father called his
colon cancer early and got it all taken care of.
That's the key, right, He called it early because he
actually goes through the doctors.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, that's the key to The earlier you can find
these things, the better chance you have of beating them
until we find an actual cure.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
My dad did the same thing.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Oh, let we go.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I don't think it was competitive. I want to my
campaign against I said. My dad did the same thing.
He got it early, he found it, they treated it.
It worked out. Thanks man, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Thanks thank you guys for having me on helping spread
the word. Talking a little football. I'm a big fan
of both of you guys. I watched you play a
lot after my days were over. I'm glad I didn't
have to play against either one of you because you guys,
you would have been pale for me in the secondary.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
The war Moon just say he was a fan? I agree,
I didn't. Did he just say that?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
What was the first thing I asked you when I
saw you?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Did you punch out any football? I just so I
shall roam this all the time. I get nervous around
Hall of Famers, like we put our pants just like,
but all got the yellow jackets. That's the coolest thing.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
We allay this game, and we all battled and were
all on the same team.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And that right there is why I love Warren Moon
because he really truly is that. I've met Warren Moon
five six, seven, twelve times.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
We don't want to say where we met.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And no we're not to talk about that, but he
has been exactly just like that every single time. And
I'm the one that's nervous. He comes up and speaks
to me, and that is beautiful. That's why I love
your spirit and who you are personally.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I respect NFL players because I know what goes into
this game. I know what we go through in order
to play it and what it takes to get to
this level and then to be successful at this level.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I have great respect for you guys.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Thanks, man, appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Thanks. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We're going to take a short break and we'll be
right back. I can't wait to introduce this guy. Pro bowler,
thirteen year VET. He's a renaissance man. He can he
can hoop, he can cycle, he's got his pilot license.
He's training or bro across the Arctic Ocean. He lives
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in a boat for six months. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Jimmy.
Gre guys.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I appreciate you guys having me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I appreciate it rowing across the Arctic Ocean. I got
respect for that. I built a rowboat back in like
two thousand and nineteen from scratch. I have no idea
what I'm doing, and I rowed across Lake Michigan, and
it took me twenty five hours straight NonStop. Did it
for charity, raise a whole boat ton of We raised
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about two hundred thousand dollars worth of cash for these
kids and cancer. But man, it's tough, Oh it is.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Actually.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I had to learn how to row, like the feathering
technique and doing like I had to learn how to row.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Are you going to tell him about the worst thing?
I mean, he's probably traded for it. I do that
off camera. That ain't nothing I want to talk about
on cameras, Like, don't get me like, no, no, you're
not gonna get me like that. Bo okay, I'm gonna
get your camera. I'll give you Awn advice you need.
You really just trying to play me like that? She
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knew don't try to play me like that. So what
got you into this? Why do you want to row
across the Arctic? This was idea from one of my
best friends. So he was twenty two years Sealed Team
six and he was getting his NBA from Cambridge.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
He had been asking me to do this for about
ten years. You probably met him. His name's Trope. He
used to come to him to the Saints quite a
bit back in the day. And so I was at
his graduation and we're sitting at a pub and he
basically says, you know, you're the only one that I
could do this with.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Can you help me accomplish this?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Go all my life?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So the next thing I know, I'm agreeing to it,
and then now we're run across the Arctic Ocean. I'm
the only one of the boat who hasn't rowed before.
So this year I've been, like you did, learning how
to row, learning how a torturess, that is how at
times extremely boring in many many ways, it is such
a mental thing, you know, like as was physical. It's
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been something that is a completely different world than completely
So do you.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Guys like listen to music while you're rowing? Like, because yeah,
he said, it gets boring, Like so you listen to
music different than what they're listening to, Like how does
this go?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, So, like I always got a little headset on.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Randomly, if I'm not feeling the music they're playing that
I'll play something else. I'll start to do podcasts. But really,
the brutal thing about it is really at night. So
we just did our first open ocean sea trial last
week in Miami. So we went to Miami, Ala Morada
back to Miami. It was two hundred and fifty thousand
meters a rowing. But the night shift is two hours on,
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two hours off. So let's say you're nine to eleven, right,
so then you get off, I get a little bit
of food. I'm leading navigator in calm, so I set
the new course where we're going to be headed for
the next two hours, and then I try to get
like a fifty minute sleep map. Then all of a sudden,
you're getting woken up at one am with an alarm
and you've got to go climb out of this thing,
get outside and sit there and do cardio for two
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more hours. And that's two hours on, two hours off
through the night. I mean, it's besides the boring part,
it's very difficult because you're so sleep deprived.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You're a calenard deficient. I was burning just for this camp.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I was burning nine thousand calories a day, So being
able to take in that amount of food is tough.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
That's why you're looking so good, Jimmy, I see, I'm
just trying to keep up with y'all. Off, all right,
so you can still play? Yeah, I can still run
a jump, of course, jim you would say that. All right,
this is exactly just how we make roan few back.
Can you still dunk?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I'll fer Bill dunk. I can dunk on him, for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I can too, Can you dunk? I'm a layup type guy.
I'm forty. I want to tell so trash, all right, So, Jimmy,
I think I got a couple of stories on you
that I think you're pretty good. All right, interesting facts
about Jimmy Graham. Number one, the funniest thing that I've
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ever seen Jimmy do is we're out at like Ota,
not even o T but people are practicing whatever and
Jimmy just having to fly helicopter over the facility one day.
I don't know why. I have no idea why you
did this. Maybe you can explain to the people.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, well, so I was training, I was getting my
policized at the time, or I was getting my helicopter license.
And the idea was because my family used to come
in from Miami. I used to have a lot of
people come in to the games and the traffic afterwards
was out of control. So the idea was because they
got a helipad right at the stadium. So the idea
was to start flying out of the game so I
get my family back. So that was kind of that.
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But I told Drew that I was gonna be fine,
SOE told me to come by, so you know, I
stopped by and just so what you.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Guys are doing the other great story, all right, Jimmy
Graham's having this amazing year. He's having contract disputes, him
and Mickey going back and forth. Jimmy comes out some
Monday night game scores about three tuts. I'm like, Jimmy, bro,
just get the contract done. What is going on? I
get to go upstairs and get the contract done. He said, Rome,
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maybe I need to hire you as my agent. I said, dude,
I take less and I get it dumb faster because
you're going to go score me two more teddies. I
will go upstairs tell Mickey I want twenty dollars and
I slammed the door in your face right there and
get it done, just like that, Just like that. He
almost hired me. But it's all good. Though he did
get paid.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I ended getting paid.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
But you know, obviously there was a lot going on
with that hole, with that whole payoff. So and probably
let to me get in traded for sure. That's how
it is. That's it.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
We'll be back in a minute. So I just want
to go back to the whole pilot the helicopter, explain
how difficult it is to fly a helicopter, because it's
like it's you got the joysticking is saying you got
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the throw in his hand, and then your feet and
the balancing of what you're doing. I mean, it's the
ultimate multitasking.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I would compare really helicopter flying very similar to seaplane flying,
where your low level altitude is making low level decision
landing off airport. But that stick is called a a
collective and then there's your anti torque pedals and there's
your cyclic. So basically every control is connected. So when
you make a power change either less torqu or more torque,
that's going to cause you to have to use your
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anti torque pedals, which is what rolls the little blade
in the back. So what that is doing is that
little blade is stopping the helicopter. So any moving mass,
anything connected to it wants to roll in an eco
in opposite direction. So if you didn't have that little
blade in the back, then the helicopter would just spin
out of control. So basically, as you pick up more power,
which would be more torque, you have to put in
more anti torque pedal And if you keep the same
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attitude with the cyclic, then that means that you're going
to start to gain altitude right or lose altitude if
you don't want to do that, you want to get
more forward speed, you just press lightly forward and that
will change that torque into.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
What is going to be for movement.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
It's basically all connected and you really have to understand
one not only the aircraft itself, but really all the.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Physics around it.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Right, There's something called transational lift, which is what's happening
because of the terroord is creating its own thrust. There's
something called resident if you're running a turbin helicopter. So
there's so much more you have to know. So our
helicopter operation my foundation, we built a UH one H
Huey from Vietnam and we give flights to veterans young kids,
especially through EA Young Eagles. I'm the chairman of that,
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so we give these flight experiences to a lot of
underprivous kids to introduce them into the air technology industry.
But when we do, or if you're a pilot for
our operation, you have to understand every part and piece
of helicopter. So you have to go through three to
five days of maintenance training because you have to be
able to see any anomalies, see if torqustripe is missing,
see if some hoses and really understand what you're looking at,
so you can relay that to our accounts.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, just talk a little bit more about the fundraising
part about your foundation.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
So, well, our foundation this year is going to this
crazy new venture which is called the Arctic Challenge twenty
twenty five where myself, a couple from New Orleans, the Huppies,
and Andrew Trope, we are going to chase down five
world records with trying to row from Norway to Longon Burn.
I forget the exact how they said, but it's a
(22:56):
glacier island in the Arctic Ocean, so it's going to
be a thousand kilometers. And we're also doing that to
raise money for a few local charities here in Orleans.
One is called the Covenant House. They're a homeless shelter
for kids under twenty two. They do great work with
really shelter, healthcare, everything, and then they start to transition
them into jobs and schooling and everything to try to
(23:18):
get them back, you, back on their feet after whatever
they've been through as a small child. And then Laurius
they introduce kids into sports. So we're gonna be roaring
across the ocean and we're going to start this campaign
called a million meter Challenge where we're gonna try to
raise a million dollars for the various charities here in Orleans.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So, Jimmy, would you call yourself a drilling junkie.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I wouldn't say that. I always say that, nah, I.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Would just say you're one on one. Yeah, So, Jimmy,
I would always read books about flying right. Then next
you know, he starts becoming a pilot. Then from the pilot,
he's like, I'm up here, I might as learn how
to fly health as well. Then he's now a helicopter.
Oh you know what, I think, I want to do
boats now. So now he's in the boats and he
sails now, and it's like he's just always the next thing.
(24:12):
Your curiosity for all these things. Did this come from
your upbringing where it wasn't the best? You didn't come
from where you were you know, you were adopted, You're
brought in by your family out of Miami, and you
have grown into this young man that you weren't always
who you are.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, I think a lot of it did come from
my childhood.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Came from not having many opportunities, but having a lot
of curiosity. You know, where I would see something and
I was just like, well, how do you get involved
with that? Or you know, because I had never experienced
most of these things I do now as a kid.
But I think that's what it really is, is curiosity.
But you know, some people they look at something and
they want to learn it. Like me, I really want
(24:53):
to understand how things work, right. I want to get
that experience. And also I've always been obsessed with kind
of pushing myself into new avenues. I've been obsessed with
pushing myself to my limit, right without going over that
because I love my life. I ain't trying to die, right,
So everything I do is to a mitigator risk and
with intense training.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
And just learning new things.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And like the first time that I skot out kind
of a wild starting nobody.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I've never really sold this. But I get traded.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It's not enduringly junkie.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
No no, no. So I get traded to Seattle.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Obviously a lot going on there from New Orleans. So
I get out there and then after ten games, I
blow my knee off. So I ruped some up totel attending.
They're telling me I'll never play again. It's you know,
I'm the highest paid to live At the time, my
whole world's melted down. I was just looking to try
to win a Super Bowl. Now I'm just trying to
learn how to walk. So that whole off season I
basically couldn't really do anything. Every off season for the
(25:45):
first ten years of my career, I always got a
new license, so that was always something to keep my
brain active to, you know, learn something new. And so
the seasons about starting about two weeks from the season,
I hadn't done anything all off season, so I was like, Okay,
I need to do some that's interesting because I'm so
bored and I can't go in the season ill doing
some fun. So then I took the AFF program and
I jumped out of a plane before I even got
(26:06):
clear by the doctors to be able to run uh
no tandem all by yourselfing, well, yeah, because I'm too big,
so yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
So it was a harness old.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I was on my own parachute, which for me was
fine because I'm a pilot, so you understand how to
land a parachute.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You know, it's just a plane without an engine.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
So I come out, it's a plane without an engine.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
That's basically what it is it was, Yeah, it was
a big wing above you. It's there's more going on.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Got out before. But I ain't never called it that before.
I've been just got out of it twice, and I
ain't never called it a plane without.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
An engine like that. It's just the big wing above you.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
But I remember going up in the plane and I
saw the first people jump out, and I was sitting
there and I was like, what did you.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Get yourself into?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Man?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You were an idiot, Like like at a time in
het paid right, I still haven't been cleared. I'm basically
putting my whole career up for this experience. I'm like,
what are you doing? And then I started panicking, But
then I ended up doing end up loving it, and
you know now I've got about a hundre jones. So
it was it was fun.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I would I would consider that a bit of a
drilline jump. I wish you with the with the plane
the helicopter.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You like to challenge you. You want to, you know, keep
the mind going. The rowing the boat, I did that,
so jumping out the plane, I'm not cleared them the heights. Uh.
I want to know this because you said something that
I don't think I knew. You said, your first ten
years of your career, every off season you picked up
a new license. What were some of the coolest license
(27:29):
that you picked up in this in this tenure journey.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I would say, uh, seaplanes, crazy story there. So I
get to see out on my first week on the job,
this this kind of older man kind of limps around.
He just had a surgery and he said, hey, I
hear you're a pilot, and I'm like, yeah, I'm a pilot.
He's like, oh, have you ever flowing seaplanes? And said no,
I haven't. He's like, well, my name is John norrisum
I used to own the team. I sold him my
best friend, Paul Allen. I flew my seatplane in here.
(27:54):
Do you want to fly? I said, of course. So
we went outside and from the immediately you just like, yeah,
let's do it have to Yeah? So uh so immediately well, also,
you know it's with certain people. I know that his
maintenance is probably pretty good, right because you know, liquid
cash is not an issue and so all that, and
I'd heard how much he had flown over his lifetimes
(28:16):
because he had four of these seaplanes. Uh, he had
two in front of his house. So we take off
from the facility, we go buy his house. I see
all this and I'm like, I need this. So how
old were you guys flying? I mean usually on a
seaplane really, especially like Washington, there's a there's a bunch
of airspace above us abound five hundred feet kind of
the whole time. So uh so, literally that weekend I
(28:38):
got my seaplane license, and then three months later I
bought my seaplane out of a junk yard from Canada
and rebuilt it.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So that whole experience was pretty incredible, pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Any other licenses that that you that really stand out
to you in those in the next part of your
journey on the next.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Part, yeah, get drum tid. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
After this rowing, I'll be heading into doing air shows.
So that's really the end goal. I love to do
air shows. I love to you know, entertain a crowd.
You know, it's like it's going to kind of fill
that gap that football have for me.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
You always tell people, So you're gonna be like letting
out to smoke, turning the plane, Yeah, turn in the
plane like the Blue Angels.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah exactly, but in various planes.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
So I'm getting donated to my foundation, the combat Leader Jet,
the Clay Lacy combat Leader Jets.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
So it's a lear jet built by NASA.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
And the Air Force that has show smoke and everything
does rolls and loops and the idea. Really, I'm going
to contact the NFL is. I'd like to do NFL
City and flybys with it. But I can carry veterans
on board and on the wings. I can have f
sixteens after thirty two's for the national anthem, and then
during the halftime I take especially during suit to service,
I'll be able to take everybody on the field give
(29:56):
them the tour. I think it'd be pretty cool. But
there's also a guy that I'm I'm link with. He's
got a jet walko.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Now what is that for us?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Non airplane? Yes, so his name is Jared.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It is one of the most incredible one off planes
in the world. It's a it's an old buy wing walko,
it's called so it's it's all fabric the wings and
everything like that. It's all been reinforced. But they also
added it's got a radio old engine so radios were
built like the thirties, but it also has a leeered
jet engine on the bottom.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Of it.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
So it's an insane plane does insane stuff. So we're
going to link together, We're going to raise try to
get some sponsors and travel America. Just entertaining people, which
I think is gonna be a great piece because cool.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Always tell people, one, I can always every city I
go in, I can I can take kids up, you know,
and I can give out this experience because I like
to introduce kids into this aviation stuff. Yeah, you know,
be a mechanic engineer, pilot. There's there's a lack of that.
It pays very well. But also there's nothing that can
replace scoring a touchdown in the NFL. Right, Yeah, that
(30:58):
is the one thing that I besides the locker room
is fart of a place. But as far as like
scoring in front of ninety thousand people, you're one on
one against the brown man and you baby him and then.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You know, that's an amazing feeling. There's not nothing comparison
to It is the most addictive. That's why that's all
I ever really did.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
But I mean every team I've been off for the
last three years, I said, I don't want to play
in the field.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Put me in the red zone. If you can't score
as for it down, just just throw it up, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I just remember we played we played y'all one year
and you got the ball and you came running and
Major Right, oh came. I never forget that came running down.
I was like, oh, makes you Finn to give him
a bit? He fein a damn He hit Major Rights
so hard. Major stayed down and you got up and
(31:48):
was talking. I didn't realize it. It didn't look like it,
but let me look, let me tell you how this
went down. So and I saw it, I was like, damn.
So you know, Seampagne all week, all he's talking about
is made it right. That's all this dude's talking about.
That's all he's talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
And he keeps right for the game, telling me what
Major Right's going to do to me, And I'm like,
what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Then?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Then you know, because when I was in New Orleans,
I used to go warm up on the on the
visitor side because I I used to warm up in
the endzone because I wanted to see how big I was.
And so I walked by him and I realized that
was him, and I was like to do a little.
I was like, if I see this dude and I
get this ball, and I was like, I'm showing everybody.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
So that's kind of what happened. It was really Champagne's faul.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
This dude every day was on me about how Major
Right was gonna just smack me and embarrass me and
put me on TMZ this and I went about that.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Game, a game I bore made the business. This sounds
about like what Sean would do. I have one more
question for you, and I'm gonna let you get out
of here. Could you kind of walk us through because
I do believe you were the first person that ever
bent the field goal posts in Atlanta. You hit the ball,
you do your padding to Jimmy Graham before they banned
you from doing it. Jimmy Wick dunked the ball right,
(33:06):
that was your former basketball player. They went from one
hand dugs to all of a sudden, you yanked it.
I don't know what happened until we had to like
pause the game for like seven minutes. And what did
Sean say to you at this point?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well, I mean Sean was hyped because I just scored right.
It was it was like a double move, and he
basically said, hey, just end this thing, so I was
all right, let's go. And uh, you know, obviously we
had battles versus Atlanta every time we went into that stadium.
You know, I used to tell them the Ice own
real estate and ends on there because I used to
whoop up on him so bad. So really, just in Atlanta,
(33:42):
you're giving everything you happen. And those were those were shootouts,
you know, every game was down to the last possession.
So right when I scored, I'd always thought about if
I played in the Super Bowl, I wanted to make
sure that eventually I could do a muscle up on
the goal post. So that was kind of me slowly
ramping that up. And Atlanta's goalpost, out of all the
go posts, they didn't have that screw that tightens it
(34:03):
up from bending.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I didn't know that at the time.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
So really, if you tighten that through the goal post,
will not do that. That's why this rule makes still
makes no sense. But yeah, but that was really just
because it's Atlanta, you know, and I can't stand them.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So you just broke the go posts.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, yeah, Well, you know back then I was to
eighty yeah, I was, you know, I was big. I
remember the heaviest I ever was for a sales game.
I went out on a scale was to eighty eight.
I was like, yeah, I gotta chill out.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
So that was working out with Wilmo.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah you got he still works out.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Before we let you go, I want you to look
into that camera right there, total viewers and listeners how
they can donate and help you restaggle ahead Richards Foundation.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
So for the Arctic Challenge twenty twenty five, if you
go to the Arctic Challenge twenty twenty five, we are
going to start a million meters challenge which we're going
to be raising a million dollars. Go there, click and donate,
And if you are wanting to sponsor our boat, you
can also go there and put in an inquiry to
put a sticker on this boat because we're chasing five
(35:05):
world records.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
So yeah, Jim, appreciate me, man, Love.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
You dog man.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Also, let me know when you guys are in Miami,
you got to come fly. We do aerobatics. Say let
me know, I'll do it. How many gs have how
many have you pulled? So usually I've done nine twice. Well,
I'll take care of you. And I never passed out.
It was so I loved every minute. I'm gonna get
you to do it. I took them up. He said,
it was the coolest thing ever does.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's the dopest thing if you've never pulled, I have
it nine g's oh my god.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
So so my plane goes ten and negative ten but really,
really negative six is about as much as the body
could take. But if you guys come, come out, we'll
put cameras everywhere and do a whole thing. I think,
because I might eventually start doing this, because I do
all kinds of weird stuff. So I might get a
bunch of former and current players and just see if
they can, you know, you know, do one of my hobbies.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I'm all for it. I like crazy, like you'll be
first up. Then, Hey, I'll I've done it rome over here. Hey,
I'll tell you what we do before we get off.
Let's get a license. Let's go get our pilot license.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Why don't you guys do a podcast from my hanger
and we'll go fly do all that.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Wait on, I got my drone pilot license, got no airspace.
Come on, I'm there, I'm We're getting you out here.
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were out of here.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Ductile Duc du
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Duct
So that tights file that we've all seen come out
your hand in the slow motion. Yes, sir, you're you're
giving the credit to the fingernecks.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
That has something to do with it. Of course I
have an arm, and I got a tour so and
I got legs that all go into the throw. But yeah,
what made him spin extra nice was was the fingernail man.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
What's up? Everybody on Peanut Tooman And this is the
NFL Player's Second Acts podcast and with him as always,
Matrich co host mister Roman Harper. All right, man, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
We're here a radio row. It's gonna be a This
is gonna be an excellent one.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
This guy, our next guest, has become a good friend. Yeah,
and I love talking to this show man. He's one
of the most respectful gentlemen you'll meet here at join
the Super Bowl. Salut, So go ahead, pinut. I'm supposed
to not read all of his accomplishments, but this thing
is so long. First off, the only player in the
Canadian and the Pro Football Hall of Fame, a nine
(00:58):
time pro bowler, won the Great Cup five times, and
like myself, he's a Walter Payton Man of the Year
Award winner Ladiship. Please welcome more Moon.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yes? Are you going to lunch in the moment, I.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Am going to Yes, Sorry, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
That's one of the most honored awards that I wanted
throughout my career? Is that one?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Why was that?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I think it what it stands for. It stands for
your play on the field, but it also stands for
what you do in your community. And that's something that's
always been important to me because of the way I
was raised and how the community helped me get to
where I am today. It wasn't for organizations like I
had in my community, whether it's a boys club or
cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, stuff like that, vacation Bible School.
(01:42):
If I wouldn't have done all those different things, who
knows where my life would have been coming up in
the south central Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So it kept me on the straight and narrow.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It kept me in positive environments, and he kept me
being active. And I had mentors around me because my
dad died when I was seven, so my mom got
me involved in sports and things just keep me around
other boys and other mentor men in my life.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And my mentors were my coaches.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So you used to keep your fingernails like extra tight
just so you could throw the rock, right, Is that
still a thing?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And what started this for you? Well, I think good
grooming started for me with my upbringing. My dad passed,
so I was I grew up with six sisters and
my mom, so it was me and six seven girls
in the house, right, So I learned all the stuff
that girls did. They took care of their nails, they
took care of heir. When I had here, I made
(02:36):
sure I was lotioning down. I mean everything that this
is supposed to to take care of yourself. I did
growing up, and my nails were something that I wanted
to always take care of. But when I was playing
my forefingernail, if it was the right length, my boss
spun like nobody I ever knew, you know, And if
it wasn't right, it affected me mentally.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So that tights file that we've all seen come out
your hand in the on slow most. Yes, sir, you're
given the credit to the fingernails.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
That has something to do with it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Of course, I have an arm, and I got a torso,
and I got legs that all go into the throw.
But yeah, what made it spin. Extra nice was was
the fingernail length. And if you looked at the balls
that I threw saying warm ups or whatever brand new footballs,
you look at them, they had.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Cut marks in them as they came off my fingernail.
Boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So we were talking to Joe Montent a little bit
earlier and he talked about how what the quarterbacks are
able to do with the balls. Did that really make
a difference with you? Like getting a ball fresh out
of the box.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I didn't like a fresh ball. I wanted my ball
beat up. I liked a little bit older ball. The
kickers there, punters and kickers would take care of the
ball because they didn't like them. Knew either, So they
put them in the dryer. They did all kinds of stuff,
scuffed them up, and I liked them like that. So
they did them like that on Friday if we had
a home game, to get them ready for the game
on Sunday. When those balls were right, I was right.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh, I like that. So have you ever looked at
combining your CFL stats with your NFL stats?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
People have done that with me.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
It's a lot of yards, but fifty three to be exact,
that's a lot of yards.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, my arms started hurting. You said that number got
That's a lot of throws, man, a lot of throws.
But you know what, based off what my career was
in the beginning and what people thought, even going all
the way back to high school, I had high school
coaches that didn't want me to play quarterback.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
What they want you to play.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Wide receiver or defensive back, which is what they wanted
us all to play. We were the skill guys. We
weren't supposed to be able to think. We weren't supposed
to be able to throw, we weren't supposed to be
able to lead all those different things that that quarterbacks
asked to do. And that was there was a mentality
back then, a stereotype back then we couldn't do that.
(04:57):
You can't call it racism because there's too many any
other African Americans at every other position, but for that position,
that was racism.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, I'm just thankful that you got the tough skin
and you persevere through and you continue to play, because
there are a lot of guys in this league right
now that are playing that position because of you. Or
we got two in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And yeah, this is the second time this has happened,
and the first time it happened two years ago, I
was I mean, I'm proud now, but I was proud
then because we had had one at other times, like
Russell Wilson went against Tom Brady and there were other guys,
But when you had two, I'm like, whoa, the chess
went out just a little bit further, because this is
one of the things that I fought for when I
(05:39):
was being defying about playing this position. Not so much
for me to play it, but I also knew there
was a responsibility by me. Doug Williams we talk about
it all the time when he played at the same
time Randald Cunningham, we were in the league all at
the same time, and we talked about it all the time.
We knew we had more responsibility than just our football
team and our organization. It was a bigger responsibility that
(06:02):
if we played well, other guys were going to get
a chance.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
How much of a responsibility is it to not only
just play well, but be looked upon as ultimately a
great leader of what a great quarterback quote unquote it
is supposed to look like when you three don't look
like everybody else's qual right, And that's that's.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
What playing the quarterback position is all about. Can we lead?
Can we be the face of a franchise. Can we
be the guy that the owner wants to take with
him to the country club and introduce them.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
To all his buddies.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
All that played a part in it, the whole visual
of the whole thing, you know, do you want this
guy to be your guy? And I had to act
a certain way during that. I had to make sure
like I dressed the right way, and I looked the
right way, and I was groomed.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
And because you wanted to, you wanted.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
To make sure you showed up well for your owner,
because again that was going to help other guys get
that opportunity, and maybe what I was doing other guys
would follow when they came along.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So you won five Great Cups, that's the Canadian Super Bowl. Yes,
would you trade one or two any Great Cup, amount
of Great Cups for Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I mean, because that's what you play the game for,
to win championships. Yeah, And I definitely played every year
in this league to win a championship. And if I
could have won a Super Bowl, I would have done
everything that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I ever thought about doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
In the National Football League, I did a lot of
things that I never thought I would do, Like when
Walter Payton Man of the Year, I never thought I
would win one of those or different awards that I won.
But you always go into season all thirty two teams
want to win a Super Bowl, right, and only so
many of them really have a realistic chance to do it.
So I wish I could have done that, but I didn't.
I had my opportunities. It wasn't like I didn't have
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opportunities to do it. We just didn't get it done.
So on the other side, I did way more than
I ever thought I would do in the game, you know,
when I finished, where I was and all the different things,
being inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I
never set that as a goal. You set that as
a goal? Did you just set that as a goal?
I just wanted to win a Super Bowl? Yeah, yeah.
And you wanted to have a good career. You want
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to have a long career. You can't even think about
the Hall of Fame until you play at least a
good eight nine years of really good football. So I
never thought about stuff like that. So I'm glad I
was able to accomplish those things. But even though I
have five of the other ones, Yeah, I'd love to
have one of those. Yeah absolutely, And I do have
one as as a broadcaster for the Seahawks when they
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beat Denver.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I got one for that, but it wasn't for my
play on the field.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And McCaffrey got one.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Mcca got one, so whatever it takes a good one,
I got one. But I would love to be in.
I want to be up on that podium.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely So Aaron Rodgers is forty two. Do
you think he will return for this next upcoming season.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think he will. I just don't know where. I
don't know if if the Jets are the team for him.
We have to see with their new staff. They got
a new general manager and new coach. Let's see what
Aaron Glenn wants to do.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
He just brings a lot. He just brings a lot
to the table, you know, wherever he goes. And you
have to as a new coach coming in, do you
want that or not? But he can still play. I
mean he's on the top half of guys in this league,
so why.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Not besides yourself, who throws a pretty ball.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I like Matt Stafford. Oh yeah, oh my god, he
can sling it. He still can sling. He can.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I like guys who can throw from different platforms. Everything
is just not like Tom Brady was perfect, you know,
it was everything from the product. But guys like Stafford,
Patrick Mahomes, I like Jayden Daniels ball. Yes, it comes
out quick.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Lamar started to change his arm angles to now a
lot more. Now he's not over the top. He's a
lot of guys can.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Do that are going to be much more effective when
you because you can't always throw perfect feet, perfect form.
You got to be able to throw from differ from
different platforms and angles. And the guys that can do
that and still throw with accuracy and velocity, those guys
are going to be the more successful passers.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So those are the.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Guys I tend to like a lot because that's what
I did a lot when I played, especially when we
were running shoot. I was always on the move throwing
the football. So yeah, I like those guys.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
What do you look for in a great quarterback, Like,
what are the attributes?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Of course you want him to have the physical gifts.
He doesn't have to have a rocket arm or anything
like that. But you want him to have accuracy over velocity.
Accuracy is so much more important than velocity. You love
to have velocity when you need it. Sometimes you need
to call on that throw when you want to throw
that deep dig across the middle or whatever, and you
got to zip it between two or three different guys.
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But accuracy is much more important anticipation being able to
have movement got to be a little bit more athletic,
especially in today's game.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You got to be able to move a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And the guys who are having the most success today
can move and by time and make things happen or
take off and run. But more importantly than that, you
can't see. They got to have that heart and that toughness.
And that's what I love about Patrick Mahomes. I think
he's the most competitive, in the toughest of all the
quarterbacks playing today. Josh Allen is a lot like that,
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Lamar is a lot like that. But Patrick has something extra.
He has an extra gear in the fourth quarter, yeah,
or on that certain drive when he feels like he
needs to make a play and if he can't make
it with his arm, he'll make it any way he
possibly can. So that's something you look for in quarterbacks,
and you can't measure that until you actually have seen
a guy play in certain situations. But that heart is something, yeah,
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that I really look at in quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, he's definitely finding a way to win those games.
Tell us about some of the work you're doing with
gear Up Cancer.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, we're we have a gear Up Cancer campaign with
the NFL alumni and we're encouraging people to get out
and get screened for cancer. Colorectal cancer is one of
the leading causes of the death in our country. A
lot of people don't know that you can be walking
around whether it not is not detected right until it's
too late. So we're telling people to get out and
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get those examinations because that's one of the best ways
to find out if you have something like that. Because cancer,
it really affects not only a lot of people's lives
for the individual, but also the family, the friends. It
affects everybody. And I just lost my god I'm im
to cancer about three months ago, and I have a
buddy right now that has brain cancer. I have another
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buddy that has stage four colon cancer. So it's everywhere,
and we got to do something to get rid of it.
But in the process until that happens, with all the
research that we're doing to try and find cures for it,
go out and get screened, and that's all we're telling
people to do. Just take that extra step so we
can get it as early as possible. And we do
have a lot of things out there that can help
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fight against it.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Well, I'm a product of that. My father called his
colon cancer early and got it all taken care of.
That's the key, right, He called it early because he
actually goes through the doctors.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, that's the key to The earlier you can find
these things, the better chance you have of beating them
until we find an actual cure.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
My dad did the same thing.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Oh, let we go.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I don't think it was competitive. I want to my
campaign against I said. My dad did the same thing.
He got it early, he found it, they treated it.
It worked out. Thanks man, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Thanks thank you guys for having me on helping spread
the word. Talking a little football. I'm a big fan
of both of you guys. I watched you play a
lot after my days were over. I'm glad I didn't
have to play against either one of you because you guys,
you would have been pale for me in the secondary.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
The war Moon just say he was a fan? I agree,
I didn't. Did he just say that?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
What was the first thing I asked you when I
saw you?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Did you punch out any football? I just so I
shall roam this all the time. I get nervous around
Hall of Famers, like we put our pants just like,
but all got the yellow jackets. That's the coolest thing.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
We allay this game, and we all battled and were
all on the same team.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And that right there is why I love Warren Moon
because he really truly is that. I've met Warren Moon
five six, seven, twelve times.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
We don't want to say where we met.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And no we're not to talk about that, but he
has been exactly just like that every single time. And
I'm the one that's nervous. He comes up and speaks
to me, and that is beautiful. That's why I love
your spirit and who you are personally.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I respect NFL players because I know what goes into
this game. I know what we go through in order
to play it and what it takes to get to
this level and then to be successful at this level.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I have great respect for you guys.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Thanks, man, appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Thanks. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We're going to take a short break and we'll be
right back. I can't wait to introduce this guy. Pro bowler,
thirteen year VET. He's a renaissance man. He can he
can hoop, he can cycle, he's got his pilot license.
He's training or bro across the Arctic Ocean. He lives
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in a boat for six months. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Jimmy.
Gre guys.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I appreciate you guys having me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I appreciate it rowing across the Arctic Ocean. I got
respect for that. I built a rowboat back in like
two thousand and nineteen from scratch. I have no idea
what I'm doing, and I rowed across Lake Michigan, and
it took me twenty five hours straight NonStop. Did it
for charity, raise a whole boat ton of We raised
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about two hundred thousand dollars worth of cash for these
kids and cancer. But man, it's tough, Oh it is.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Actually.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I had to learn how to row, like the feathering
technique and doing like I had to learn how to row.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Are you going to tell him about the worst thing?
I mean, he's probably traded for it. I do that
off camera. That ain't nothing I want to talk about
on cameras, Like, don't get me like, no, no, you're
not gonna get me like that. Bo okay, I'm gonna
get your camera. I'll give you Awn advice you need.
You really just trying to play me like that? She
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knew don't try to play me like that. So what
got you into this? Why do you want to row
across the Arctic? This was idea from one of my
best friends. So he was twenty two years Sealed Team
six and he was getting his NBA from Cambridge.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
He had been asking me to do this for about
ten years. You probably met him. His name's Trope. He
used to come to him to the Saints quite a
bit back in the day. And so I was at
his graduation and we're sitting at a pub and he
basically says, you know, you're the only one that I
could do this with.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Can you help me accomplish this?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Go all my life?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So the next thing I know, I'm agreeing to it,
and then now we're run across the Arctic Ocean. I'm
the only one of the boat who hasn't rowed before.
So this year I've been, like you did, learning how
to row, learning how a torturess, that is how at
times extremely boring in many many ways, it is such
a mental thing, you know, like as was physical. It's
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been something that is a completely different world than completely
So do you.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Guys like listen to music while you're rowing? Like, because yeah,
he said, it gets boring, Like so you listen to
music different than what they're listening to, Like how does
this go?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, So, like I always got a little headset on.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Randomly, if I'm not feeling the music they're playing that
I'll play something else. I'll start to do podcasts. But really,
the brutal thing about it is really at night. So
we just did our first open ocean sea trial last
week in Miami. So we went to Miami, Ala Morada
back to Miami. It was two hundred and fifty thousand
meters a rowing. But the night shift is two hours on,
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two hours off. So let's say you're nine to eleven, right,
so then you get off, I get a little bit
of food. I'm leading navigator in calm, so I set
the new course where we're going to be headed for
the next two hours, and then I try to get
like a fifty minute sleep map. Then all of a sudden,
you're getting woken up at one am with an alarm
and you've got to go climb out of this thing,
get outside and sit there and do cardio for two
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more hours. And that's two hours on, two hours off
through the night. I mean, it's besides the boring part,
it's very difficult because you're so sleep deprived.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You're a calenard deficient. I was burning just for this camp.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I was burning nine thousand calories a day, So being
able to take in that amount of food is tough.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
That's why you're looking so good, Jimmy, I see, I'm
just trying to keep up with y'all. Off, all right,
so you can still play? Yeah, I can still run
a jump, of course, jim you would say that. All right,
this is exactly just how we make roan few back.
Can you still dunk?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I'll fer Bill dunk. I can dunk on him, for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I can too, Can you dunk? I'm a layup type guy.
I'm forty. I want to tell so trash, all right, So, Jimmy,
I think I got a couple of stories on you
that I think you're pretty good. All right, interesting facts
about Jimmy Graham. Number one, the funniest thing that I've
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ever seen Jimmy do is we're out at like Ota,
not even o T but people are practicing whatever and
Jimmy just having to fly helicopter over the facility one day.
I don't know why. I have no idea why you
did this. Maybe you can explain to the people.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, well, so I was training, I was getting my
policized at the time, or I was getting my helicopter license.
And the idea was because my family used to come
in from Miami. I used to have a lot of
people come in to the games and the traffic afterwards
was out of control. So the idea was because they
got a helipad right at the stadium. So the idea
was to start flying out of the game so I
get my family back. So that was kind of that.
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But I told Drew that I was gonna be fine,
SOE told me to come by, so you know, I
stopped by and just so what you.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Guys are doing the other great story, all right, Jimmy
Graham's having this amazing year. He's having contract disputes, him
and Mickey going back and forth. Jimmy comes out some
Monday night game scores about three tuts. I'm like, Jimmy, bro,
just get the contract done. What is going on? I
get to go upstairs and get the contract done. He said, Rome,
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maybe I need to hire you as my agent. I said, dude,
I take less and I get it dumb faster because
you're going to go score me two more teddies. I
will go upstairs tell Mickey I want twenty dollars and
I slammed the door in your face right there and
get it done, just like that, Just like that. He
almost hired me. But it's all good. Though he did
get paid.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I ended getting paid.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
But you know, obviously there was a lot going on
with that hole, with that whole payoff. So and probably
let to me get in traded for sure. That's how
it is. That's it.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
We'll be back in a minute. So I just want
to go back to the whole pilot the helicopter, explain
how difficult it is to fly a helicopter, because it's
like it's you got the joysticking is saying you got
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the throw in his hand, and then your feet and
the balancing of what you're doing. I mean, it's the
ultimate multitasking.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I would compare really helicopter flying very similar to seaplane flying,
where your low level altitude is making low level decision
landing off airport. But that stick is called a a
collective and then there's your anti torque pedals and there's
your cyclic. So basically every control is connected. So when
you make a power change either less torqu or more torque,
that's going to cause you to have to use your
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anti torque pedals, which is what rolls the little blade
in the back. So what that is doing is that
little blade is stopping the helicopter. So any moving mass,
anything connected to it wants to roll in an eco
in opposite direction. So if you didn't have that little
blade in the back, then the helicopter would just spin
out of control. So basically, as you pick up more power,
which would be more torque, you have to put in
more anti torque pedal And if you keep the same
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attitude with the cyclic, then that means that you're going
to start to gain altitude right or lose altitude if
you don't want to do that, you want to get
more forward speed, you just press lightly forward and that
will change that torque into.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
What is going to be for movement.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
It's basically all connected and you really have to understand
one not only the aircraft itself, but really all the.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Physics around it.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Right, There's something called transational lift, which is what's happening
because of the terroord is creating its own thrust. There's
something called resident if you're running a turbin helicopter. So
there's so much more you have to know. So our
helicopter operation my foundation, we built a UH one H
Huey from Vietnam and we give flights to veterans young kids,
especially through EA Young Eagles. I'm the chairman of that,
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so we give these flight experiences to a lot of
underprivous kids to introduce them into the air technology industry.
But when we do, or if you're a pilot for
our operation, you have to understand every part and piece
of helicopter. So you have to go through three to
five days of maintenance training because you have to be
able to see any anomalies, see if torqustripe is missing,
see if some hoses and really understand what you're looking at,
so you can relay that to our accounts.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, just talk a little bit more about the fundraising
part about your foundation.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
So, well, our foundation this year is going to this
crazy new venture which is called the Arctic Challenge twenty
twenty five where myself, a couple from New Orleans, the Huppies,
and Andrew Trope, we are going to chase down five
world records with trying to row from Norway to Longon Burn.
I forget the exact how they said, but it's a
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glacier island in the Arctic Ocean, so it's going to
be a thousand kilometers. And we're also doing that to
raise money for a few local charities here in Orleans.
One is called the Covenant House. They're a homeless shelter
for kids under twenty two. They do great work with
really shelter, healthcare, everything, and then they start to transition
them into jobs and schooling and everything to try to
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get them back, you, back on their feet after whatever
they've been through as a small child. And then Laurius
they introduce kids into sports. So we're gonna be roaring
across the ocean and we're going to start this campaign
called a million meter Challenge where we're gonna try to
raise a million dollars for the various charities here in Orleans.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So, Jimmy, would you call yourself a drilling junkie.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I wouldn't say that. I always say that, nah, I.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Would just say you're one on one. Yeah, So, Jimmy,
I would always read books about flying right. Then next
you know, he starts becoming a pilot. Then from the pilot,
he's like, I'm up here, I might as learn how
to fly health as well. Then he's now a helicopter.
Oh you know what, I think, I want to do
boats now. So now he's in the boats and he
sails now, and it's like he's just always the next thing.
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Your curiosity for all these things. Did this come from
your upbringing where it wasn't the best? You didn't come
from where you were you know, you were adopted, You're
brought in by your family out of Miami, and you
have grown into this young man that you weren't always
who you are.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, I think a lot of it did come from
my childhood.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Came from not having many opportunities, but having a lot
of curiosity. You know, where I would see something and
I was just like, well, how do you get involved
with that? Or you know, because I had never experienced
most of these things I do now as a kid.
But I think that's what it really is, is curiosity.
But you know, some people they look at something and
they want to learn it. Like me, I really want
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to understand how things work, right. I want to get
that experience. And also I've always been obsessed with kind
of pushing myself into new avenues. I've been obsessed with
pushing myself to my limit, right without going over that
because I love my life. I ain't trying to die, right,
So everything I do is to a mitigator risk and
with intense training.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
And just learning new things.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And like the first time that I skot out kind
of a wild starting nobody.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I've never really sold this. But I get traded.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It's not enduringly junkie.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
No no, no. So I get traded to Seattle.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Obviously a lot going on there from New Orleans. So
I get out there and then after ten games, I
blow my knee off. So I ruped some up totel attending.
They're telling me I'll never play again. It's you know,
I'm the highest paid to live At the time, my
whole world's melted down. I was just looking to try
to win a Super Bowl. Now I'm just trying to
learn how to walk. So that whole off season I
basically couldn't really do anything. Every off season for the
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first ten years of my career, I always got a
new license, so that was always something to keep my
brain active to, you know, learn something new. And so
the seasons about starting about two weeks from the season,
I hadn't done anything all off season, so I was like, Okay,
I need to do some that's interesting because I'm so
bored and I can't go in the season ill doing
some fun. So then I took the AFF program and
I jumped out of a plane before I even got
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clear by the doctors to be able to run uh
no tandem all by yourselfing, well, yeah, because I'm too big,
so yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
So it was a harness old.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I was on my own parachute, which for me was
fine because I'm a pilot, so you understand how to
land a parachute.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You know, it's just a plane without an engine.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
So I come out, it's a plane without an engine.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
That's basically what it is it was, Yeah, it was
a big wing above you. It's there's more going on.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Got out before. But I ain't never called it that before.
I've been just got out of it twice, and I
ain't never called it a plane without.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
An engine like that. It's just the big wing above you.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
But I remember going up in the plane and I
saw the first people jump out, and I was sitting
there and I was like, what did you.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Get yourself into?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Man?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You were an idiot, Like like at a time in
het paid right, I still haven't been cleared. I'm basically
putting my whole career up for this experience. I'm like,
what are you doing? And then I started panicking, But
then I ended up doing end up loving it, and
you know now I've got about a hundre jones. So
it was it was fun.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I would I would consider that a bit of a
drilline jump. I wish you with the with the plane
the helicopter.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You like to challenge you. You want to, you know, keep
the mind going. The rowing the boat, I did that,
so jumping out the plane, I'm not cleared them the heights. Uh.
I want to know this because you said something that
I don't think I knew. You said, your first ten
years of your career, every off season you picked up
a new license. What were some of the coolest license
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that you picked up in this in this tenure journey.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I would say, uh, seaplanes, crazy story there. So I
get to see out on my first week on the job,
this this kind of older man kind of limps around.
He just had a surgery and he said, hey, I
hear you're a pilot, and I'm like, yeah, I'm a pilot.
He's like, oh, have you ever flowing seaplanes? And said no,
I haven't. He's like, well, my name is John norrisum
I used to own the team. I sold him my
best friend, Paul Allen. I flew my seatplane in here.
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Do you want to fly? I said, of course. So
we went outside and from the immediately you just like, yeah,
let's do it have to Yeah? So uh so immediately well, also,
you know it's with certain people. I know that his
maintenance is probably pretty good, right because you know, liquid
cash is not an issue and so all that, and
I'd heard how much he had flown over his lifetimes
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because he had four of these seaplanes. Uh, he had
two in front of his house. So we take off
from the facility, we go buy his house. I see
all this and I'm like, I need this. So how
old were you guys flying? I mean usually on a
seaplane really, especially like Washington, there's a there's a bunch
of airspace above us abound five hundred feet kind of
the whole time. So uh so, literally that weekend I
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got my seaplane license, and then three months later I
bought my seaplane out of a junk yard from Canada
and rebuilt it.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So that whole experience was pretty incredible, pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Any other licenses that that you that really stand out
to you in those in the next part of your
journey on the next.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Part, yeah, get drum tid. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
After this rowing, I'll be heading into doing air shows.
So that's really the end goal. I love to do
air shows. I love to you know, entertain a crowd.
You know, it's like it's going to kind of fill
that gap that football have for me.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
You always tell people, So you're gonna be like letting
out to smoke, turning the plane, Yeah, turn in the
plane like the Blue Angels.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah exactly, but in various planes.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
So I'm getting donated to my foundation, the combat Leader Jet,
the Clay Lacy combat Leader Jets.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
So it's a lear jet built by NASA.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
And the Air Force that has show smoke and everything
does rolls and loops and the idea. Really, I'm going
to contact the NFL is. I'd like to do NFL
City and flybys with it. But I can carry veterans
on board and on the wings. I can have f
sixteens after thirty two's for the national anthem, and then
during the halftime I take especially during suit to service,
I'll be able to take everybody on the field give
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them the tour. I think it'd be pretty cool. But
there's also a guy that I'm I'm link with. He's
got a jet walko.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Now what is that for us?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Non airplane? Yes, so his name is Jared.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It is one of the most incredible one off planes
in the world. It's a it's an old buy wing walko,
it's called so it's it's all fabric the wings and
everything like that. It's all been reinforced. But they also
added it's got a radio old engine so radios were
built like the thirties, but it also has a leeered
jet engine on the bottom.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Of it.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
So it's an insane plane does insane stuff. So we're
going to link together, We're going to raise try to
get some sponsors and travel America. Just entertaining people, which
I think is gonna be a great piece because cool.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Always tell people, one, I can always every city I
go in, I can I can take kids up, you know,
and I can give out this experience because I like
to introduce kids into this aviation stuff. Yeah, you know,
be a mechanic engineer, pilot. There's there's a lack of that.
It pays very well. But also there's nothing that can
replace scoring a touchdown in the NFL. Right, Yeah, that
(30:58):
is the one thing that I besides the locker room
is fart of a place. But as far as like
scoring in front of ninety thousand people, you're one on
one against the brown man and you baby him and then.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You know, that's an amazing feeling. There's not nothing comparison
to It is the most addictive. That's why that's all
I ever really did.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
But I mean every team I've been off for the
last three years, I said, I don't want to play
in the field.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Put me in the red zone. If you can't score
as for it down, just just throw it up, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I just remember we played we played y'all one year
and you got the ball and you came running and
Major Right, oh came. I never forget that came running down.
I was like, oh, makes you Finn to give him
a bit? He fein a damn He hit Major Rights
so hard. Major stayed down and you got up and
(31:48):
was talking. I didn't realize it. It didn't look like it,
but let me look, let me tell you how this
went down. So and I saw it, I was like, damn.
So you know, Seampagne all week, all he's talking about
is made it right. That's all this dude's talking about.
That's all he's talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
And he keeps right for the game, telling me what
Major Right's going to do to me, And I'm like,
what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Then?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Then you know, because when I was in New Orleans,
I used to go warm up on the on the
visitor side because I I used to warm up in
the endzone because I wanted to see how big I was.
And so I walked by him and I realized that
was him, and I was like to do a little.
I was like, if I see this dude and I
get this ball, and I was like, I'm showing everybody.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
So that's kind of what happened. It was really Champagne's faul.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
This dude every day was on me about how Major
Right was gonna just smack me and embarrass me and
put me on TMZ this and I went about that.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Game, a game I bore made the business. This sounds
about like what Sean would do. I have one more
question for you, and I'm gonna let you get out
of here. Could you kind of walk us through because
I do believe you were the first person that ever
bent the field goal posts in Atlanta. You hit the ball,
you do your padding to Jimmy Graham before they banned
you from doing it. Jimmy Wick dunked the ball right,
(33:06):
that was your former basketball player. They went from one
hand dugs to all of a sudden, you yanked it.
I don't know what happened until we had to like
pause the game for like seven minutes. And what did
Sean say to you at this point?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well, I mean Sean was hyped because I just scored right.
It was it was like a double move, and he
basically said, hey, just end this thing, so I was
all right, let's go. And uh, you know, obviously we
had battles versus Atlanta every time we went into that stadium.
You know, I used to tell them the Ice own
real estate and ends on there because I used to
whoop up on him so bad. So really, just in Atlanta,
(33:42):
you're giving everything you happen. And those were those were shootouts,
you know, every game was down to the last possession.
So right when I scored, I'd always thought about if
I played in the Super Bowl, I wanted to make
sure that eventually I could do a muscle up on
the goal post. So that was kind of me slowly
ramping that up. And Atlanta's goalpost, out of all the
go posts, they didn't have that screw that tightens it
(34:03):
up from bending.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I didn't know that at the time.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
So really, if you tighten that through the goal post,
will not do that. That's why this rule makes still
makes no sense. But yeah, but that was really just
because it's Atlanta, you know, and I can't stand them.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So you just broke the go posts.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, yeah, Well, you know back then I was to
eighty yeah, I was, you know, I was big. I
remember the heaviest I ever was for a sales game.
I went out on a scale was to eighty eight.
I was like, yeah, I gotta chill out.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
So that was working out with Wilmo.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah you got he still works out.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Before we let you go, I want you to look
into that camera right there, total viewers and listeners how
they can donate and help you restaggle ahead Richards Foundation.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
So for the Arctic Challenge twenty twenty five, if you
go to the Arctic Challenge twenty twenty five, we are
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to be raising a million dollars. Go there, click and donate,
And if you are wanting to sponsor our boat, you
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(35:05):
world records.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
So yeah, Jim, appreciate me, man, Love.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
You dog man.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Also, let me know when you guys are in Miami,
you got to come fly. We do aerobatics. Say let
me know, I'll do it. How many gs have how
many have you pulled? So usually I've done nine twice. Well,
I'll take care of you. And I never passed out.
It was so I loved every minute. I'm gonna get
you to do it. I took them up. He said,
it was the coolest thing ever does.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's the dopest thing if you've never pulled, I have
it nine g's oh my god.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
So so my plane goes ten and negative ten but really,
really negative six is about as much as the body
could take. But if you guys come, come out, we'll
put cameras everywhere and do a whole thing. I think,
because I might eventually start doing this, because I do
all kinds of weird stuff. So I might get a
bunch of former and current players and just see if
they can, you know, you know, do one of my hobbies.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I'm all for it. I like crazy, like you'll be
first up. Then, Hey, I'll I've done it rome over here. Hey,
I'll tell you what we do before we get off.
Let's get a license. Let's go get our pilot license.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Why don't you guys do a podcast from my hanger
and we'll go fly do all that.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Wait on, I got my drone pilot license, got no airspace.
Come on, I'm there, I'm We're getting you out here.
Thanks appreciate y'all tuning in to the NFL Players Second
Acts podcast. Rome close us out. I will all right,
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