December 11, 2025 • 46 mins
Should you start Jordan Love, RJ Harvey, and Justin Jefferson this week? Marcas Grant, Michael F. Florio, and LaQuan Jones are here to break down the key start-sit decisions of the pivotal week fifteen matchups.
The guys also give you their previews of the Sunday night matchup between the Vikings and Steelers and the Monday night game between the Dolphins and Steelers. They also test Justin Jefferson with the Start-O-Meter, share their bold predictions for the week, and chat with NFL Network reporter Cam Wolfe.
Start 'Em, Sit 'Em QBs: 2:38
Start 'Em, Sit 'Em RBs: 6:15
Vikings at Steelers Preview: 10:50
Dolphins at Steelers Preview: 16:12
Start 'Em, Sit 'Em WRs: 21:24
Start 'Em, Sit 'Em TEs: 24:32
Justin Jefferson Start-O-Meter: 28:09
Bold Predictions: 34:20
Cam Wolfe Joins the Pod: 38:53
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
What's up, everybody. Welcome to another edition of the NFL
Fantasy Football Show. It's Me Your Man, MG. Marcus Grant,
joined by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones l Q. You're
like us and you're a degenerate who plays in wacam
any leagues?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
How many if you've done the tally yet? How many?
Did you make the playoffs? In seven?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
The lucky number seven, and I hope to bring home
the gold in all seven and I'm posturing that way
to bring home all seven. So hopefully fingers crossed, we
get it done.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sure it's seven, it's not six six seven, don't we're
trying to make that die.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Come on, No, I'm gonna absolutely bury it by saying
it over over till people are sick of it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I said already, I don't have you? Have you done
the count yet? I don't think I've done the.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Official of I only did redraft, like I'm not doing
counting best Ball or Dynasty. Eight of eleven made the
playoffs and the three that didn't. All three came down
to Week fourteen Wow, one of which came down to
AJ Brown dropped. Literally, if he catches that touchdown, I
make the playoffs, he drops it, I lose it and
I missed the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I think out of the seven redraft leagues, I think
I made four, so you know more than half. We're
all putting a differcentage out there. It's all. It's all.
That's all that matters. Like once you get here, all
that matters, and what this one.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Once you get to this point, you know, hey, the
ships fall where they may like, it's sort of out
of your hands. The job is to make it to
the second season. At that point anything can happen. So
our job today, that's pretty much every other day of
the year, is to help you continue to succeed in
your fantasy playoffs or I guess in your consolation bracket
if you're in that too, right where if you win
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to the bowl bracket, you're out right, That's how it
works in the consolation right you win, you're done, it's over.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Or if you keep losing, you lose all the way.
I've never really.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
There's there's like for punishment leagues. I think that like
my league, my home league does it where you the
consolation is for the winner of it gets to make
their selection of like you could pick first pick twelfth
pick whatever you want, but regardless of what's on the
line in yours, waivers are for teams in playoffs.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I'm gonna die this argument again to day, this argument
again today. What we are gonna do today is the
starts and sits for week fifteen plus. We are putting
Justin Jefferson in the start a meter. We're gonna have
some hot takes and we will be joined as always
during the week by cam Wolf.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But we are going with the starts and sits.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Of course, you can read all of Michael lef Florio's
starts and sits at NFL dot com slash starts sit.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
See how that works. It's really simple. Let's we go
with the quarterback position. Who do you like? Who do
you not like? In Week fifteen, Lamar looked like Lamar again.
He has a fantastic match.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
At least he was running again, which I should say
like he didn't look like full Lamar, but close to it.
Running again and great match against the Bengals. I don't
think they could stop him twice in a three week span.
Jackson Dart just a reminder, he was at over twenty
one Fantasy points per game as a starter of the
Commanders have really struggled against the pass this year. I
think Jared Goff, I expect the Lions to be really
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aggressive this week. That means going for it on fourth down,
going for two at times, and throwing the.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Ball a lot. The Rams they have a very good
offense as well.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
They've also struggled a little bit against the pass as
of late.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'm not trying to cause a crashouts. Yeah, we just
got to get through the show. I guess yet the show.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Look, look, Rock Purdy, I'm saying good things about your
team here. Look he's a safe floor option in a
great matchup the Sis. I'm sitting Jacoby Brissett. I'm doing
it so myself in a number of leagues. I just
wanted to avoid the Texans matchup at all costs. Jordan
Love is very touchdown dependent, and he's facing the team
that is a lot of the second fewest pass touchdowns.
Caleb is playing in a blizzard and the floor already
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is a week losing floor, so I'm getting away from that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And then CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, I know the Texans are winning and their fun
story right now, but it's all.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Bad for fantasy unless you have Nico Collins. Really.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, somebody asked me whether they would start h C J.
Stroud or uh oh who Okayle Williams, I think it
was or C. J.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Stroud really even in the frozen.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That might change, Okay, the weather might put I would
go JJ McCarthy though, over those options like go pick
him up, he's out there, Get Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
He's might be out there.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Marcus Mariota this week is an option against the New
York footballer said that zikes kwan Jordan Love going up
against the Denver Broncos. He has played well, looked very
good against the Chicago Bears last week. Also, it's large
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Speaker 2 (04:45):
Or what I think. That's how I think, that's how
it goes your feelings on Jordan Love this week.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I like that he's a sit this week because this
is a matchup where we've seen the Broncos put hands
and feet on quarterbacks, like this is the number one
team in QB HIT, so they are to be physical.
They're going to touch him, okay, and this is a
defense that could take the ball away. So they're completing
their sacks they're taking the ball away, causing chaos in
the trenches. This is not a matchup where Jordan Love
should be taken into starting lineups. Don't get cute, but
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I will say this, This isn't where Jordan Love is forgotten.
Hopefully you make it to the next round, because if
you make it to the next round in the playoffs,
I'm starting him in week sixteen and seventeen when you
have the Bears in the Baltimore Ravens to wrap up
the championship. So this isn't like a completely let go
to the wave wire pick up another quarterback. This is
where you're gonna stash and roster and hold on to
Jordan Love because I like his playoff matchups in the
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next few weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
All right, so we're not necessarily starting Jordan Love this week.
But maybe don't drop them, don't drop them, don't drop him,
don't do it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's shouting a good fantasy quarterback.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I think he's a real highly underrated, real life quarterback.
I think what holds him back from being so in fantasy.
I think he has the upside of being like not
in a lead option because he doesn't run, but like
that second tier the Packers just need to let him
throw more. They're throwing the ball at I know, last
I checked, it was the third lowest rate in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That was coming into last week. It might have changed
a little bit, but let him air it out. He
statistically was is one of the best throwers of the
football in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, I mean he threw the ball really well last
week watching that game against Chicago. Just a lot of
touch passes, a lot of on target, on time throws.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He's really really good against Chicago.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Also say he's a really predictable quarterback as well.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You can predict it.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
With matchups he's going to do good and then the
matchups he's going to do bad.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And like for example this week, yeah on the road
at Denver, doesn't seem all that the appealing for joinings. Yeah,
over the running backs because this is I don't know,
I think there's an interesting running back matchups this week
across the board.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Who are your starts and who are your sits? Travis
Etna is a must start for me this week. I
have a hot take with him later on in the show.
I love r J Harvey. Look.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
R J Harvey is the first Sean Payn running back
to get the bulk of carries, targets, and goal on
usage since prime Alvin Kamara, Quinn Shawn Judkins gets so
much volume.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
He's the goal one runner there, and it's going to
be a feel.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Of negative ten, I believe is the high right now
they're calling for in that game, they're gonna run.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Good luck tackling him. I think Tremon and Ramandre are
in play against the Bills. I think Trayon is the
highest ceiling play.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I prefer him, but Steven said has a good chance
of scoring a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And then the Sis. Look, it's looking like it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Brady Cook as the quarterback for the Jets, So yeah,
that's bad for free call.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He had one target from him last week.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
And the Jags are the best run defense statistically, David
Montgomery because the Rams are elite against the run, and
don't look now in the last month, he's averaging eight
opportunities per game.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's just not usable. Kenneth Walker, he's.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Still playing a little bit over Charbonay, but it's been
so frustrating. And then Jordan Mason, like I know, he
scored a two touchdown. If you look at Jordan Mason's
game log, they're all the same. He rushes between somewhere
like forty and fifty five yards and if he doesn't
get a touchdown, he scores like five Fantasy points.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Man, that that one week of Jordans was kind of
fun way back. He's a good runner, it's just not
a good The situation is that.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Part whole line though, the whole line for the Vikens
is kind of bad too, so it's not like he has.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Enough room to actually work.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And like all the things we've seen with him with
the forty Whiners, like I was expecting that coming, you know,
from the forty Winers, to have Minnesota utilize him the
same way, but just didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Just didn't work. Yeah, Harvey, look at r J.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Harvey was a dude that the kuwan you were You've
been taping for all season long.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It took a while. And then look, but I'm not
putting this on you. This is basically a Sean Payton thing.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Sean Paynon, yes, wasn't giving him opportunities now because everybody
else is just vanished.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
R J.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Harvey's getting his opportunity this week got the Packers, who, for.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
The most part seems to have been a good run defense,
but not lately. How you feeling about RJ this week?
I hope Sean Payton kind of switches it up.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I hope he really utilizes him as the album Kamara
like how Florio has said that he is the first
running back we've seen get this type of usage. But
look at the b roll right here. This is all
I want to see all game. RJ Harvey needs to
be utilized in the passing game. Get these Packers linebackers exhausted,
get them running sideline a sideline. Because r J Harvey
has proven he could be a weapon all over the field.
(09:26):
We're seeing him catching the ball in the red zone. Like,
I need more of the password from RJ Harvey this
week so he can repeat these back to back weeks
that he's put it up. RB one numbers twenty plus
fantasy points, Like, I think this is where you can
get it done. Because we've seen previous running backs in
the pass against the Packers put a big points. Davonte Williams,
Rico Daddle, even Tyrone Tracy with a solid outing out
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of that week in Week eleven. So I look at
this as an opportunity where Sean Payton unleashes him in
the passing game, so we can get some solid fantasy
points this week.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
That's been the nice thing is that he has had
a decent target shar and target volume over the last
few weeks, because I mean, look, if we're being honest,
he has not been the most efficient runner necessarily obviously
had the seventy five yards last week, that was great.
He's been able to find the end zones a few
times the last couple of weeks. That has sort of
been nice, but the rushing numbers on the ground haven't
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been great. Hopefully this is a week that that starts
to change. But either way, we do have the targets
to kind of fall back on, and that is a
really good thing, I think for RJ Harvey and fantasy
managers who are starting RJ Harvey at this point.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
All right, we are just getting started.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Of course, we'll have more starts and since coming up
later on in the show, we'll get into the wide
receivers and the tight ends a little bit later, also
have some game previews as we look at Sunday Night
and Monday Night football. But first a quick break. Will
come back with more coming up on the NFL Fantasy
Football Show taking a look at the Sunday night football
(10:52):
game the Minnesota Vikings heading down to Arlington to take
on the Dallas Cowboys, and these are the first touchdown
odds for that game. Javonte Williams, who we have really
feel like we haven't really talked.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
About him a whole lot. In guy man, I got
to get back on board. We'll talk about him just
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But George Pickens right behind him, followed by Jake ferguson side.
Note to this, as of this recording, Ceedee Lam's still
in concussion protocols. We're still waiting to see what the
updates are on him. Aaron Jones Sr. And then Justin Jefferson,
which tells you a lot about how the season's going
for Justin Jefferson that he's number five of five on
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this list.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Befooria, if you are picking.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Somebody here, is it somebody on that list or somebody
maybe off board?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
No, it's on the list.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
My heart wants to say Justin Jefferson, But I don't
think he is the first one, right Like, I think they're.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
In ketchup mode when it happens. So I think George
Pickens is where I'm going.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Coming off of that hugely disappointing game last TNF. He
got into it with Richard Sherman after he is their
go to guy in the red and end zone anyway,
And I think with everything that transpired last week, I
think they're, you know, teams as much as they say
they don't listen outside noise and stuff, I think with
something like what happened to they want to get.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Him right and get him going early.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Oh absolutely, teams du like there's no way social media
report everything's out there. It's like so hard to avoid,
like everybody does Laque of those guys Javonte Pickens, Ferguson Jones, Jefferson,
of those guys you like to score the first touchdown.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I mean, the way the season has been going, like
we've seen Tony Pollard last week, just go completely bonkers.
I'm gonna say it's Aaron Jones. It's gonna be the
least likely guy that you were probably looking at on
this list where you know, I gotta stick with my
joneses man, So I'm gonna go Aaron Jones SR. I
was gonna say if his name was Aaron Smith or no, no,
I probably wouldn't even noticed him on that board. To
be honest, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna throw out
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another wrench in this one. What about Jake Ferguson, What
about the ferg Daddy?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
They get down close little bootleg action, they're the goal
line and when I.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Hit forerg you are we are.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
We gonna play the visionary again where I predict how
Jake Ferguson gets in tden zone. I will It will
be probably a third and goal and then we're gonna
look at dag back up, look to his left to
see Pickens, look at Ryan Florinard because I think CD
is not gonna play and he's gonna dump.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It right down in the middle of the field to
Jake Ferguson for a.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Touchdown, to fer Delicious for the touchdown there. Huh yeah,
you don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
In fact, the quan has the script. He got to
have it. They have it on Good Morning Football.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He got the script and he's just let you know
how things work there.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Probably because I've been hanging with Seth man Less.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's why Less the the guys in the black unmarked
vans come and take me away.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'm joking totally joke.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Anyways, get a little further into into Sunday Night Football,
uh flor you we saw Justin Jefferson on this list.
We know what kind of season it has been for him.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
The Cowboys, despite being improved, they are still giving up
yards to wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Would you dare? Certainly DNFs, But even in like a
redraft league, start Jordan Addison this week?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So I I for a different play. I write up
like deep plays, and he was one of the ones
I wrote up. But that understand that it is.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It's like if you're desperate, or if you're in a
fourteen team league or something like that, I have conviction
and being like, I will trust Justin Jefferson in a
favorable matchup because he's Justin Jefferson. But Jordan Addison, he
has been getting volume. I'm not gonna say he's not,
but he is not that same caliber of player. So yeah,
he's not someone that I'm like forcing into lineups.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
But maybe you're you're a.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Little banged up with injuries, or you're in a really
deep league something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
To me, that is where Jordan Addison slides in.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
All right, So Addison maybe in the right situation gets
a look from folks. We talked about Javonte Williams just
touched on him briefly there with the touchdown odds.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Has Deefonte Williams become matchup proof?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I know it's like, I know it's weird to be
asked this question in week fifteen, like seasons almost over.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
But has he become matchup proof this year? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I mean, honestly, when we look at some of the
games where we shouldn't be starting him, I mean the
Chiefs game, he puts up RB one numbers, the Denver game,
he puts up RB one numbers, And I'm looking at
this game like, why wouldn't he put up RB one numbers?
And he's attached to a top five scoring offense. The
Cowboys were in offense this whole offseason that we were
talking up of, like they have the weapons now which
puts them in scoring opportunities. They look at Javante every
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time they get in striking distance. So I do feel
like this game they're going to be in striking distance
more and often than not. So I could see him
coming in and putting up RB one numbers. And also
he's getting involved in the passing game. As you can
see on the b roll that is one of those
things that he was doing in Denver as well. But
he is still doing it now at a more efficient rate.
So yeah, Javonte Williams next season is going to be
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interesting conversation where he goes in drafts.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean, I feel my early prediction is probably a
late second, early third for Javonte.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
But yeah, it feels good.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Unless people, you know, some people are still sleeping and
not believe. And I look at it like, hey, that's
a solid place to put him in ADP. I would
take them there.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I'm glad I can get back in on it because
I was ready to kind of give up, but not
because of Javonte, just because of the situations he was in.
It just didn't seem particularly good for him. So nice
to see him coming back into our fantasy lives for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
There you go. We keep going on our Week fifteen previews.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Monday Night Football, The Dolphins at the Steelers, Miami kind
of running hot, the Steelers coming off of big win
ins Baltimore and very much in the cat birds seat
to win the AFC North. You can see that game
Monday at fifteen pm Eastern on the Four Letter Network.
Question to you, Lakwan Jones, is Tuwatumdabaioloa a startable quarterback
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option this week?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I mean have you seen his game log in the
last couple of weeks. And again, I'm not going to
spend my Birthday weekend losing sleep at night with two
being the last resort if I know, if I go
to the next round into the playoffs, I'm looking at
this like, no, I'm looking for better options, Like I'm
even looking at Bryce Young maybe as a pivot option.
I would see William Trevor mid Lawrence is an option
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that I've said this week in replacing the quarterbacks, we
cannot trust. Tua has not been great, man, It's been sorry.
And and even with the matchup that we look at
the Steelers defense where you can get up on this secondary,
I'm not gonna trust this, especially when Davon h Chen
banged up, so a lot is going to be on
Tua's back where I'm like, nah, bro, you have been terrible.
You have been unrosterble in these last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Man, It's weird that the vibes are better in Miami.
And a two QB league. This week I have to
decide Tua or Caleb. Yeah, not fun.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
I Mariota is my QB one, Like I lost Jayden,
it's been a bad year.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I probably go with Caleb because I would rather if
it's gonna be bad, I want to rip that band
aid off on Sunday, Like I don't want to die
a slow painful death on Monday night.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I'm the exact opposite, because I'm like, hey, if.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I'm gonna go down, I want to go I want
to still at least have a chance night.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You know, slow painful deaths is watching yourself watching your
team just bleed out on the floor, as to a
struggles to throw three yard passes.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Like Flora, You're gonna go to bed angry Sunday if
your team doesn't put up enough points and then you're
looking at Monday like.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
All right too, you got to bring it home. That
is so stressful.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
So you know, I said I had eight teams of
the this is one that it's again.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It's a two QB league and my qbs are awful.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I look at it and I'm like, yeah, I'm not
winning this league, so I'm hopeful.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
My skill position. Guys are really good, but they got
to carry me. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
We will find out for sure, but that is an
awful dilemma to have to have. On the other side,
Aaron Rodgers looked really good against the Ravens last week.
I posted on Blue Sky that it looked like twenty
sixteen Aaron Rodgers again, right. He was moving around in
the pocket, he ran for a touchdown, he did the
discount double check. Even it looked like the old Aaron Rodgers.
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What should we expect for him this week against the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I think he goes back to what he always has been,
least with the Steelers, which is a floor play, right,
Like last week was his season high in passing yards.
Before that, he hadn't thrown for two point fifty in
a game this year. He hasn't thrown for multiple passing
touchdowns since Week eight against the Packers, which was hate inspired.
(19:18):
And yeah, the rushing touchdown was awesome last week, but
you can't like that was his first one of the year,
and I think his first one in over a calendar year.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Like, you can't bank on that. So Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Is only to me in play in two QB leagues
and even that, like you look at last week was fun,
but before that he had three points a week before that,
and he had less than ten in three games before that.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
So I'm not trusting him in the Fantasy playoffs. I know.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Earlier in the week on Fantasy Live, Patrick Claiband said,
the Rogers Revolution is a one week thing, and it
sounds like you're sort of doubling down on that as well.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Look, we keep talking about these deeper QB twos. I
would take a shot on JJ over Aaron Rodgers this week?
What is all with you with JJ? Man? Absolutely not?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Noh yeah. When I'm diving this deep, I'm looking at
the matchup and that's it, you know you? So you
play Aaron Rodgers over JJ McCarthy this week? Yes, I would.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I would confidently, Yes, I'm not playing JJ because look,
we look at JJ with the matchup, right, we know
the Cowboys defense is bad at the past, but how
bad is JJ? So we're comparing bad and bad, and
I think JJ is worse than the Cowboys defense. But
I'm sure we can get into this later.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Aaron Rodgers failed to score three Fantasy points two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Three.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I know, I know, I know, I'm going with the
better talent in this one, regardless of the matchup. I'm
going with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
The talent is old. Yeah, you look at me as old.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Three straight games and single digit fantasy points for the
Earth the just who old to be on my fantasy.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Roster since Week nine. Last week is the only week
he's scored more than fifteen points. We shall not.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I mean in the end, that's probably both score Like
na Man, JJ's throwing three touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
This week were like twelve points.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And it's gonna be Riley Leonard. He may not even
play this week. We'll say Riley Leonard, chill out, get
back to the starts. And since looking at the wide
receiver position Florida, who do you like?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Who do you not like? This week?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Jalen Waddle I think is a must start this week.
He's like the one consistent thing in the Dolphins passing attack,
and the Steelers have struggled against receivers. Terry McLaurin has
a lot of history of success against this matchup. It
had fourteen targets with Mariota and then the Giants struggle
against receivers.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Wandell that's lq's boy.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
He's been getting so much volume, and it's a really
good matchup for him as well. And then I feel
like we're going to talk about Justin Jefferson a little
bit more, and then my sis, Michael Wilson. I wanted
to avoid that matchup by all. Like I've played fantasy
a lot, We've seen great stories come crumbling down when
they have matchups like this. I think you get rid
of the Colts wide receivers this week, it's going to
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be Philip Rivers' best case scenario, and the Seahawks are
elite against receivers. I'm not going to get rid of
the away from the Bears wide receivers and that terrible
weather game against a tough Browns defense.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And then Xavierworthy, like I know he had his best
game in a while last week.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
That feels very circumstantial because they couldn't get Rashid Rice going.
I'm not The Chargers' secondary, I think is highly underrated,
and now it's getting more talking point because of Monday.
But still they've been great all year.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, they have a really good this year.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean having a guy like Derwin James just sort
of patrolling the area also is going to make your
secondary a whole lot better. Let's look at Wanda Robinson.
I'm saying, like if I was pitching, Yeah, like wand Delay.
You know that's what I say. I mentioned earlier, the
Giants and Commanders. They both have bad defenses. I think
there's a situation where they're good. Weirdly be a lot
of points scores because these defenses are bad. Talk to
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me about Wanda Robinson, who really is having a very
good fantasy season.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yes, the volume is there, Like I want to have
fantasy managers really get their expectations in order because I
am a little worried about Wanda Robinson's a dot Now
I'm looking at his a dot, which means basically how
he's being targeted down for the depth of his targets.
But we know that he's a yat guy. I feel
like with Jackson Dark, we're not seeing the full capability
of Wandell Robinson. So I'm not looking at Wanda as
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a wide receiver two or obviously not a wide receiver one.
He is a flex play this week. Just make sure
your other wide receivers are lock solid. So I wouldn't
be starting him over at chrys Olave because I think
the ceiling may be a little bit higher at Tetraro
McMillan in a difficult matchup. I look at this is
where Wandell Robinson's a piece that gives you that safe
floor just based on the voume. So folks do not
go out there expecting he's going to be putting up
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what he was doing with Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson.
So I just want folks to have that expectation clear
when they're making these roster decisions.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
This week.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh so I do the segment on NFL Fantasy Live
called Slots of Fun where I talk about guys who
prolay primarily in the slot and kind of project my projection.
Now admittedly, like you know, some of this is entertainment purposes.
Only eight catches eighty one yards for wan Dale this week.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I like it. Oh. I like that. It's a sixteen
point game, sixteen point ye and if somehow he finds
the end zone, he finds the en zone, it's a
huge game out of Wandale Robins and he can do it.
He can do it. He can do it against Washington
for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Moving over to the tight end position, as I find
my place in the rundown again, who are your starts
and sits at tight end?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Floria.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I still think Tyler Warren is the only Colt I
would start outside of Jonathan Taylor with confidence this week
because it's a really good matchup for him, and I
think the quarterback is going to rely heavily on the
tight end. Donkin kid back at practice this week. We
saw last week it was Dawson Knox get more production.
I think we see Kinkaid take a step forward usage
wise this week in a good matchup. I like Isaiah
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likely more than Mark Andrews, but I think both are
in play this week. We saw last week two tight
ends can very much eat. We saw the week before
that two tight ends could very much eat again, and
now those two were the Ravens two weeks ago against
the Bengals, so I like both of them. Dallas Goddard,
I know he had a big game last week. Seems
like a kind of matchup driven because the Chargers are
so good against wide receivers. The Raiders, on the other hand.
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Third few was yards of tight ends, the season fewest
since we ten Hunter Henry. The Bills have been the
toughest matchup for tight ends this season. Evan Ingram is
just a name at this point, and Mikeaseki, I know
he's coming off his biggest game of the year, but
I wouldn't chase the points because that game equates to
like seven of his other games from this.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So the Dallas Goddard thing is interesting because I looked
at him and I have him as a beware this week, right, Yeah,
because you mentioned that the Raiders don't give up a
lot of yards to tight ends, and I kind of
dug into that a little bit, and what I realize
is they don't give a lot of the tight end
because people don't throw to the tight end against them,
because I think what happens is you can run the
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ball so effectively and you can your wide receivers you're
so wide open. It's just like offenses don't You're like,
oh yeah, we don't even have to get to the
tight end because like our wide receivers are just galloping
through their secondary Untie, do you hear that?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
AJ hold on to the ball this week? Please hold on?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So yeah, So I say beware of Dallas Goddard not
because I think the Raiders are gonna clamp down on him,
but just because I think Jalen Hurts is going to
have his pick of like Saquon and aj and DeVonta
and like, oh hey, we haven't really gotten to Dallas
Goddard because of them at this point.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Okay, you want to ask you though about Tyler Warren.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
We have talked a lot about Philip Rivers because it
is very possible that he starts this week. Do you
still trust Tyler Warren or maybe it's he the only
guy you can trust with Philip Rivers at quarterback, Yes,
just based off the matchup.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
This has been a weak point for the Seahawks' defense
all season long against the tight end position. Allow on
the second most catches, second most catches and fans points
to the position. So I look at Tyler Warren where
he gives us back that tight end one performance that
we have been missing these last couple of weeks, and
I think, if it's Rivers, if it's Riley Leonard who
had a full practice on Wednesday, I'm saying this now,
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it doesn't matter who's there at the quarterback position. I
don't think it's a bold take to think that we
can get number one this week for the fantasy playoffs.
In Week fifteen, tight end one, Tyler Warren.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
It's Tyler Warren still in play.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I do feel like that's kind of the consensus that
if there's anybody they can trust, it's Tyler Warren one
because of who the quarterback might be, whoever it is,
and also because the matchup. Because Seattle's done a good
job of shutting down pretty much everything else. They have
not done a good job of shutting down tight end.
So if you've got Tyler Warren, maybe you can breathe
the least a little bit easier. Also, as we've said
repeatedly on this show, the bar for success at the
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tight end position a lot lower than it is at
a lot of other ten points, that's all we want.
Ten points can make you a tight end one. That's
all you really need.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Time for a break.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
But when we come back, we're putting Justin Jefferson in
the Starto Meter. We'll give you our bold predictions for
week fifteen, and we'll catch.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Up with our friend cam Wolf. All Right, we did
the Starto meter earlier in the week.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
We did it with quarterbacks, but the man who actually
I think started this whole conversation was Justin Jefferson. So
we had to of course, but jj in the starto meter,
And so I listed some other wide receivers here, and
you guys can tell me, and I'll start with you.
Floria and Lakwan, you can jump in whether you're starting
Jefferson or these other.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Guys that I'm mentioning here.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
So first, do you start justin Jefferson against the Cowboys
or Deebo Samuel against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
It's not even a question to me. I'm going justin.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Jefferson, Deebo Samuel, Diebo Samuel. You might be Jefferson, Floria
might be Jefferson, all of these, and then Lakwan's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
The other guy on all of these.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
So let's have the conversation then, because that's exactly what
I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Well, but we got to we gotta go through all this,
you know, because there is one name, and there's one
name in here that I think you're gonna be sort
of twisted over Laquant just based on your past history
on this show. We'll keep going down the list, all right,
So Florio, Jefferson or Troy Franklin against the Packers.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I mean it's Jefferson. He said he would drop Troy
Franklin on Monday.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
All right, So Jefferson or Troy Franklin. Thanks for Lorio.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Some people didn't watch one show, but okay, yes, Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
All right, Justin Jefferson or Michael Wilson.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I'm going Justin Jefferson there because of matchup, all right,
all right, Michael Wilson, Michael Wilson against the Texans.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I should throw on mind, I'm gonna I go Jefferson
over Deebo. I would probably go Jefferson over Franklin. I
probably go Jefferson over Wilson too, but that one's close
for me. That one's close. I think I go Jefferson
over Wilson. But it's close, all right, Laurio, Jefferson or
Stefan Diggs against the Bills, which, by the way, it
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sounds weird to say Stephan Diggs against the Bills.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, it does. It depends on Christian Benford. He was
in a walking boot.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
On Thursday, but every report so far is saying that
it's just precautionary and like he was looking good at practice.
We'll see if he sits, I will go digs. If
he plays, I'm going Jefferson, all right, Uh Higgs digs?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
He lit him up last time, Diggs, And if a
Benford ain't gonna be out there, he gonna do it again.
Because it's motivated by hate.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I think it's I think it's Steph Diggs this week,
over over Jefferson. For me, this is the one where
I think Lakwan's gonna maybe, you know, have a little
bit of a headache here, uh, Forrio Jefferson or Ladd
Mconkey against the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I'm actually gonna go Justin Jefferson. Oh okay, all right,
laqu I know how you feel about Ladd. I know
you are not a lad. You're not one of Ladd's lads.
How are you? Is it jeff or is it Lad?
Can that pass? You have to make a decision. Come on, Jefferson, volume.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Give me Lad. I'm gonna go Laddle. I'm gonna go
Lad over Justin Jefferson this week.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Listen. This is tough because we saw what happened.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
With Justin Herbert with that left hand right, low pass volume,
low opportunities for all these pass catchers to go out
there and put up flex numbers or even wide receiver
two numbers. I'm still going Lad. I'm going Lid because
I can't put the trust in the hands and a
young quarterback that has not shown us anything that he
can bring Justin Jefferson remotely to even be trusted in
a flex position. So I'm going lad this week.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Jefferson does have some double digit fantasy games with JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Oh my god, how long ago was that? He has
one touchdown since week too? No, I need touchdowns, I
need fantasy points now.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
The other thing, though.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Is like, I get it, the last two games have
been really bad, but we get like two games is a.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Microscopic sample size.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
We have five and a half years of being like
Justin Jefferson is maybe the most talented wide receiver walking
the planet in the best by far matchup a wide
receiver could.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Have who was throwing him the ball? That's where the
source of the problem is. My boy is not even
getting the looks. That is the issue. The yards upside
is not there, the touchdown upside nothing.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Well last week last week, I think you have to
throw out the window.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
They were up they won thirty one. Nothing like they
threw twenty three times. They might be down.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Thirty one nothing against Dallas in the first quarters. Like, no, no,
But that's really one hundred percent. Something that needs to
be factored in is they're going to have to throw
maybe fifty times compared to twenty times last week.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You know, like they're gonna be in ketchup mode the
whole Jamison volume there for sure, I think that helps.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
All right, last one, Justin Jefferson or Jamison Williams against
the Rams.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
This is one where I would go, Jamison, all right,
we're a line. Let's go Florio.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
That's my boy. I figure you go Jamo in this one. Yeah, yeah,
against the Rams. There's opportunities. There's opportunities in the secondary
for explosive plays. Okay, that's all I'm gonna say. I'm
not gonna pinpoint the dB or the secondary. That's gonna
let it up. But there is opportunities for him to
get off in this game, all right, Emmanuel Forbes, come
on MG next? All right, Well, I'm just names on
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the bullets.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I'm just I'm not asking.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Maybe I'm just trying to think back at some receivers
we have recommended against the Cowboys over over the course
of this season, and like, come on, Justin Jefferson buils
them all out of the water. Like I mean, you
look at the like Wandell had his career game against them.
Aj Brown had his biggest get right game at that
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time against them. Luther Burden had his breakout game against them.
Marvel eight against them, Jamison like everyone who has played
the Cowboys has eaten.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I mean, look, I still say I think I take
lad over Jefferson, but I definitely take Jamison Williams over
Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So this was actually peaceful.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I thought it was going to be a little bit
more chaotic, but this was actually peaceful.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
When we do bold predictions, I'll tell you that I haven't.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Heard I heard the last of Jeffer and Justice, which
actually seems perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Then, so let's let's pivot. Let's pivot. You had a
glass of milk.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
We have some spicy takes for Week fifteen, so lakwan
start us off.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Let's get spicy.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Listen, I'm going spicy with this one. Harrow Fannin Jr.
Is going to put up a twenty five burger, and folks,
if you don't know, now you know we are officially
on Harrow Fannin Jr. Watch Because back in February, a
random day that I decided to say if he finishes
top five, I will dye my hair blonde again. I
don't know why I keep doing this to myself, but
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he is currently doing this. He's currently top five. But
it's fine. It's working. I get the credibility as a
tightened whisper of what the fancy streets are saying.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
But it's fine.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
A twenty five burger for Harold Finn and in your
this week interesting, We're.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Going to see Lakwan's family this weekend. Oh about we'll
ask the wife how that's the white and the kids.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
The kids are going to be like you know esus,
blatantly honest about it too.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
If you do die you want, can you not tell
your kids?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
And then let's them show up when you pick them up,
just be like surprise, surprise. Listen, it didn't go well
last time and she does not know that I made
this game well again hair on the tight end. So
when you guys see her this weekend, this should be
an interesting reaction.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That she does not know about. Right now wait, I
cannot wait. Uh. In the meantime, Flora, what is your
your hot take for the week?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
We are the old fan and show of record. Now
the rest of the season it. Mine was going to
be pretty much what yours is. Like last week, mine
was a one hundred yards and a touchdown for Jefferson
And this week my Bowl prediction like we send them out,
they get tweeted out or whatever is Oh no wait,
I meant this is the week.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That he's gonna go for one hundred and a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
But Travis etn best Fantasy game of the season, which
is somewhere around like twenty three points. He hasn't had
the biggest of blow up games, but he has just
been reliable week in and week out. And like MG
was saying, oh no wait, that was on a different show.
The Jets run defense has been really bad since they
traded Quinnin Williams. Travis Etn has been running really well
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as of late. I wouldn't be surprised if this is
a not really most competitive game and it's one where
the Jags just run the ball all day long.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, we do so many shows together that they all
kind of yeah at some point, No, I get it.
I get that, you sort of get the hint of
what my hot take is. My Bowl prediction is going
to be based on what Florio said justin Jefferson will
have his second twenty point game of the fantasy season,
the first one wow that he has had since we
back in Week four when Carson Wentz was actually quarterback
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in the Minnesota Vikings at the time. I just think
they're really going to go out of their way to
get him the ball, especially after the last two weeks.
The dudes had a grand total of fifteen receiving yards
in the last two games. That's got to change, and
I think you're gonna see them making a concerted effort,
whether it's wide receiver screens, whether it's quick slants, just
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something where McCarthy can get the ball out of his
hands quickly and then get it to Jefferson and just
let him sort of work. So I just look, man,
I know this hasn't been the season the Vikings wanted
it to be. But the way to sort of fix
that is by getting your guy the ball as much
as possible.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So I think we're going to see that happen this week,
and we're.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Gonna see justin Jefferson, if somehow you survived, I was
gonna say, I would love to know the percentage of
playoff teams that have just have It's pretty small.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yes, that's why I want to know who was in
the room with us that we were speaking to that
actually made it this far to the fantasy playoffs in
my home league, that Justin Jefferson manager made the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
All right, there's gonna be somebody out there, because like
you can draft well around that, you know, like you
can hit. Got you Maybe you got a Javonte Williams,
I hope your running back spot.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Maybe you found a Mecca Buka who got you through
the first few weeks. Like there's ways that it happened.
So if you did that, I need to see the data.
I need to see the numbers. I need to see
the person anything.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Is Like I'm here battling for him. I have Justin
Jefferson on no team, like I didn't draft.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Him in a single team.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I was about to say, you sound like you're heavily
invested in this raiment, like I am not invested in.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
I am invested now because I'm invested in our reviewers
and listeners fantasy teams that have Justin jeffersons.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I have him in a dynasty league which is going nowhere.
But it's not because of Justin Jefferson. Because my quarterback
situation is an absolute dumpster fire.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
That's that's what that is. So and then they're doing
justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Anyway, those are the hot Takes presented by Frank's Red
Hot l Q.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Appreciate you logging in as always, service talk to you
next week. Yes, sir, it's another week and we.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Are happy as always to be joined by our friend
and NFL Network reporter Cam Wolf. And Cam, I'm sure
so you're in the playoffs, I assume it both.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Are you the one seed in both of your leagues
this year?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Yeah, I'm the one seed in both of my leagues,
and I'm scared man, like you only got negativity to go.
This week, I'm playing the eight seed one of my leagues,
the guy six and eight. I don't know how he
got in the playoffs, but he's got a shot and
if he knocks me off, he'll he'll be laughing. And
so I'm curious how people feel is that one seed.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I do remember a couple of weeks ago, you were like,
I picked up Mike Evans and my league mates were like,
what do you know?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
And now I'm sure coming your way?
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Yeah, broken clocks are right twice a day, you know
what to tell you. You know, sometimes it just happens
that way, right, you know. I also picked up Trey
Benson and I just had to cut him.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
So sometimes you don't get them all right, right. You
win some, you lose some. That's guy where it goes.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I got to ask you what the biggest story of
the week in Indianapolis. What are your expectations for forty
four year old grandfather Philip Rivers coming back to play.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, I have no expectations. I
just want to see it. I think it's gonna be
a fun story. I can't imagine getting off the couch
and doing anything I did four years ago, including like
playing flag football, so I can't imagine tackle football.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I look.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
I hope there's a fun player too in the journey.
I hope that's he slings a deep touchdown or shakes
somebody off of him.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
But this is not the right week that I would
love to make.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
My comeback as a forty four year playing a Seattle
Seahawks team that is probably gonna blitch you and see
what your instincts are. So I don't have a lot
of optimism that is gonna go super well for Phillips Philip,
but I'm hopeful for a fun moment or two.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Hey, if it goes poorly this week, imagine what a
couple weeks from it looks like they play like Cam. Look,
you you've been with the brown like following the Browns
a lot this year and stuff has sha door made
a case to be there QB one next season.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
He certainly made a case for sure.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
I think that the way he played this past week
was the best performance he's had all season. He's improved
vastly on his pocket management, not drifting as much taking
those sacks. That's something that the Browns are really emphasized
with him, and he's showing a playmaking the ability that
none of their order of other quarterbacks can show. Now
to me, it's my consistency. You've got a few more
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games left, can you put up a few more like that?
And if so, then yeah, maybe the Browns start thinking
we kick some of those pack picks back twenty seven,
we get pieces around him. If you don't fall in
love with somebody in that draft class, then why not
give it one more year. I think that he certainly
can make his case with with duplicating a couple of
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those games.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah, I mean, I do like like they've kind of
kept the offense sort of simple. They add a little
bit in each and every week. I think he's done
a good job with what they have given him to
do so far. So I'm curious how to watch that development.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Can we get a Dolphins vibes checked? The vibes were
bad earlier in the year, it's kind of turned. What
are the vibes around the Dolphins? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Yeah, I was just in a Dolphins locker room about
twenty minutes ago and Chop Robinson told me we had
hit rock bottom. We looked around each other and we're like,
I'm playing awful, You're playing awful?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Is this who we are? Are we awful?
Speaker 5 (42:18):
And they really have galvanized together. They're playing with the
level of looseness, nothing to lose because they honestly had
nothing to play for until this week.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
And you look up and you're like, maybe if.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
We squid, maybe if this team does this and this,
and maybe we can get back into the hunt. And
so I wonder if they can still play with that
level of looseness. But a big portion of it is
they chained their identity leaning on that run game, leaning
on Devon h Chan in a way they have never
done before, and he's running the ball spectacular. I just
saw him at practice and he said he's doing well
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health wise, and I expect him to play Sunday despite
that rib injury.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
And don't think I didn't notice Josh Allen's picture returned
to your after a big win against the Bengals. But Cam,
I have to ask you, what is going on with
Joe Burrow. If I'm a Bengals fan his comments yesterday,
I'm on like panic ten level right now.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Yeah, it is always interesting because Joe doesn't talk much.
Joe's very internal, and so when he says anything of value,
you have to listen because it's coming from the heart.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I haven't got.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Any indications that, like Joe Burrow is considering retirement, which
is what I think some people went through there. But
I think that he's just getting a little worn down
by the injury cycle. Seems like every year it's him
coming back and having a great year and then him
getting injured, and it's.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Back and forth, back and forth.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
I just think with no playoffs, no end results, I
think he had some time where he was trying to
compartmentalize it.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
But Joe's a competitor.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
I think he'll come out there this week and play great,
but certainly onus on the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
To not waste this Joe Burrow era.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
And I think back to Andrew Luck, and you just
don't want to look a few years from now and say,
what if we were better set up to win in
the Joe Burrow era.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, that was the name that that popped into my
head too, was Andrew Luck. And I wonder if you
know Colts people are Colts fans aren't texting saying, hey, man,
make sure you take care of your guy.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
We've seen what happens if he pulls it as you look.
Maybe they call it Carson back. That's a coach up
to playing quarterback for the Bengals. Who knows which game
we got this week, Cam.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
I'm actually at the Steelers Dolphins game, so I will
get to see that Monday night game and see whether
the Dolphins can keep this magic run going against old
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
So I'm really eager to see how they defend this
passing attack.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
You know, they've been up and down this year, the
Steelers have, but dk Metcalt coming off a really strong week.
You know, we're Seul Douglas on the other end is
played well for the Dolphins. That's going to be a
fun matchup to watch. And then on the other side,
Ken the Steelers slow down Devon Chan, who's like we
talked about playing incredible Pro Bowl type year to me,
and the Steelers have really really struggled to stop that
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run defense, the run game all over. So I think
this is actually a very competitive game. I know the
Steelers are the leaders of their division, but I think
the Dolphins can give them a run if they play
their style of ball. Don't try to get the ball
too much into his hands in this cold weather. I
just try to hand the ball off to twenty eight
and see what he can do.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Damn. Always appreciate it. Look forward to catch it up
with you next week. Boss.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
We'll look forward to seeing you out there between the
Dolphins and the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
That is it. We are done.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
We appreciate you hanging out with the NFL Fantasy Football Show.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
You know the drill.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
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remember only the mediocre are always at their best. Be safe,
take care of yourselves. Enjoy Week fifteen. We'll talk to
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Alcot
What's up, everybody. Welcome to another edition of the NFL
Fantasy Football Show. It's Me Your Man, MG. Marcus Grant,
joined by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones l Q. You're
like us and you're a degenerate who plays in wacam
any leagues?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
How many if you've done the tally yet? How many?
Did you make the playoffs? In seven?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
The lucky number seven, and I hope to bring home
the gold in all seven and I'm posturing that way
to bring home all seven. So hopefully fingers crossed, we
get it done.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sure it's seven, it's not six six seven, don't we're
trying to make that die.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Come on, No, I'm gonna absolutely bury it by saying
it over over till people are sick of it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I said already, I don't have you? Have you done
the count yet? I don't think I've done the.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Official of I only did redraft, like I'm not doing
counting best Ball or Dynasty. Eight of eleven made the
playoffs and the three that didn't. All three came down
to Week fourteen Wow, one of which came down to
AJ Brown dropped. Literally, if he catches that touchdown, I
make the playoffs, he drops it, I lose it and
I missed the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I think out of the seven redraft leagues, I think
I made four, so you know more than half. We're
all putting a differcentage out there. It's all. It's all.
That's all that matters. Like once you get here, all
that matters, and what this one.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Once you get to this point, you know, hey, the
ships fall where they may like, it's sort of out
of your hands. The job is to make it to
the second season. At that point anything can happen. So
our job today, that's pretty much every other day of
the year, is to help you continue to succeed in
your fantasy playoffs or I guess in your consolation bracket
if you're in that too, right where if you win
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to the bowl bracket, you're out right, That's how it
works in the consolation right you win, you're done, it's over.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Or if you keep losing, you lose all the way.
I've never really.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
There's there's like for punishment leagues. I think that like
my league, my home league does it where you the
consolation is for the winner of it gets to make
their selection of like you could pick first pick twelfth
pick whatever you want, but regardless of what's on the
line in yours, waivers are for teams in playoffs.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I'm gonna die this argument again to day, this argument
again today. What we are gonna do today is the
starts and sits for week fifteen plus. We are putting
Justin Jefferson in the start a meter. We're gonna have
some hot takes and we will be joined as always
during the week by cam Wolf.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But we are going with the starts and sits.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Of course, you can read all of Michael lef Florio's
starts and sits at NFL dot com slash starts sit.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
See how that works. It's really simple. Let's we go
with the quarterback position. Who do you like? Who do
you not like? In Week fifteen, Lamar looked like Lamar again.
He has a fantastic match.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
At least he was running again, which I should say
like he didn't look like full Lamar, but close to it.
Running again and great match against the Bengals. I don't
think they could stop him twice in a three week span.
Jackson Dart just a reminder, he was at over twenty
one Fantasy points per game as a starter of the
Commanders have really struggled against the pass this year. I
think Jared Goff, I expect the Lions to be really
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aggressive this week. That means going for it on fourth down,
going for two at times, and throwing the.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Ball a lot. The Rams they have a very good
offense as well.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
They've also struggled a little bit against the pass as
of late.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'm not trying to cause a crashouts. Yeah, we just
got to get through the show. I guess yet the show.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Look, look, Rock Purdy, I'm saying good things about your
team here. Look he's a safe floor option in a
great matchup the Sis. I'm sitting Jacoby Brissett. I'm doing
it so myself in a number of leagues. I just
wanted to avoid the Texans matchup at all costs. Jordan
Love is very touchdown dependent, and he's facing the team
that is a lot of the second fewest pass touchdowns.
Caleb is playing in a blizzard and the floor already
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is a week losing floor, so I'm getting away from that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And then CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, I know the Texans are winning and their fun
story right now, but it's all.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Bad for fantasy unless you have Nico Collins. Really.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, somebody asked me whether they would start h C J.
Stroud or uh oh who Okayle Williams, I think it
was or C. J.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Stroud really even in the frozen.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That might change, Okay, the weather might put I would
go JJ McCarthy though, over those options like go pick
him up, he's out there, Get Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
He's might be out there.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Marcus Mariota this week is an option against the New
York footballer said that zikes kwan Jordan Love going up
against the Denver Broncos. He has played well, looked very
good against the Chicago Bears last week. Also, it's large
Japanese automaker palooza at your local dealership.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Or what I think. That's how I think, that's how
it goes your feelings on Jordan Love this week.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I like that he's a sit this week because this
is a matchup where we've seen the Broncos put hands
and feet on quarterbacks, like this is the number one
team in QB HIT, so they are to be physical.
They're going to touch him, okay, and this is a
defense that could take the ball away. So they're completing
their sacks they're taking the ball away, causing chaos in
the trenches. This is not a matchup where Jordan Love
should be taken into starting lineups. Don't get cute, but
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I will say this, This isn't where Jordan Love is forgotten.
Hopefully you make it to the next round, because if
you make it to the next round in the playoffs,
I'm starting him in week sixteen and seventeen when you
have the Bears in the Baltimore Ravens to wrap up
the championship. So this isn't like a completely let go
to the wave wire pick up another quarterback. This is
where you're gonna stash and roster and hold on to
Jordan Love because I like his playoff matchups in the
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next few weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
All right, so we're not necessarily starting Jordan Love this week.
But maybe don't drop them, don't drop them, don't drop him,
don't do it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's shouting a good fantasy quarterback.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I think he's a real highly underrated, real life quarterback.
I think what holds him back from being so in fantasy.
I think he has the upside of being like not
in a lead option because he doesn't run, but like
that second tier the Packers just need to let him
throw more. They're throwing the ball at I know, last
I checked, it was the third lowest rate in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That was coming into last week. It might have changed
a little bit, but let him air it out. He
statistically was is one of the best throwers of the
football in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, I mean he threw the ball really well last
week watching that game against Chicago. Just a lot of
touch passes, a lot of on target, on time throws.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He's really really good against Chicago.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Also say he's a really predictable quarterback as well.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You can predict it.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
With matchups he's going to do good and then the
matchups he's going to do bad.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And like for example this week, yeah on the road
at Denver, doesn't seem all that the appealing for joinings. Yeah,
over the running backs because this is I don't know,
I think there's an interesting running back matchups this week
across the board.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Who are your starts and who are your sits? Travis
Etna is a must start for me this week. I
have a hot take with him later on in the show.
I love r J Harvey. Look.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
R J Harvey is the first Sean Payn running back
to get the bulk of carries, targets, and goal on
usage since prime Alvin Kamara, Quinn Shawn Judkins gets so
much volume.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
He's the goal one runner there, and it's going to
be a feel.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Of negative ten, I believe is the high right now
they're calling for in that game, they're gonna run.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Good luck tackling him. I think Tremon and Ramandre are
in play against the Bills. I think Trayon is the
highest ceiling play.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I prefer him, but Steven said has a good chance
of scoring a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And then the Sis. Look, it's looking like it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Brady Cook as the quarterback for the Jets, So yeah,
that's bad for free call.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He had one target from him last week.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
And the Jags are the best run defense statistically, David
Montgomery because the Rams are elite against the run, and
don't look now in the last month, he's averaging eight
opportunities per game.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's just not usable. Kenneth Walker, he's.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Still playing a little bit over Charbonay, but it's been
so frustrating. And then Jordan Mason, like I know, he
scored a two touchdown. If you look at Jordan Mason's
game log, they're all the same. He rushes between somewhere
like forty and fifty five yards and if he doesn't
get a touchdown, he scores like five Fantasy points.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Man, that that one week of Jordans was kind of
fun way back. He's a good runner, it's just not
a good The situation is that.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Part whole line though, the whole line for the Vikens
is kind of bad too, so it's not like he has.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Enough room to actually work.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And like all the things we've seen with him with
the forty Whiners, like I was expecting that coming, you know,
from the forty Winers, to have Minnesota utilize him the
same way, but just didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Just didn't work. Yeah, Harvey, look at r J.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Harvey was a dude that the kuwan you were You've
been taping for all season long.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It took a while. And then look, but I'm not
putting this on you. This is basically a Sean Payton thing.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Sean Paynon, yes, wasn't giving him opportunities now because everybody
else is just vanished.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
R J.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Harvey's getting his opportunity this week got the Packers, who, for.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
The most part seems to have been a good run defense,
but not lately. How you feeling about RJ this week?
I hope Sean Payton kind of switches it up.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I hope he really utilizes him as the album Kamara
like how Florio has said that he is the first
running back we've seen get this type of usage. But
look at the b roll right here. This is all
I want to see all game. RJ Harvey needs to
be utilized in the passing game. Get these Packers linebackers exhausted,
get them running sideline a sideline. Because r J Harvey
has proven he could be a weapon all over the field.
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We're seeing him catching the ball in the red zone. Like,
I need more of the password from RJ Harvey this
week so he can repeat these back to back weeks
that he's put it up. RB one numbers twenty plus
fantasy points, Like, I think this is where you can
get it done. Because we've seen previous running backs in
the pass against the Packers put a big points. Davonte Williams,
Rico Daddle, even Tyrone Tracy with a solid outing out
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of that week in Week eleven. So I look at
this as an opportunity where Sean Payton unleashes him in
the passing game, so we can get some solid fantasy
points this week.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
That's been the nice thing is that he has had
a decent target shar and target volume over the last
few weeks, because I mean, look, if we're being honest,
he has not been the most efficient runner necessarily obviously
had the seventy five yards last week, that was great.
He's been able to find the end zones a few
times the last couple of weeks. That has sort of
been nice, but the rushing numbers on the ground haven't
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been great. Hopefully this is a week that that starts
to change. But either way, we do have the targets
to kind of fall back on, and that is a
really good thing, I think for RJ Harvey and fantasy
managers who are starting RJ Harvey at this point.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
All right, we are just getting started.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Of course, we'll have more starts and since coming up
later on in the show, we'll get into the wide
receivers and the tight ends a little bit later, also
have some game previews as we look at Sunday Night
and Monday Night football. But first a quick break. Will
come back with more coming up on the NFL Fantasy
Football Show taking a look at the Sunday night football
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game the Minnesota Vikings heading down to Arlington to take
on the Dallas Cowboys, and these are the first touchdown
odds for that game. Javonte Williams, who we have really
feel like we haven't really talked.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
About him a whole lot. In guy man, I got
to get back on board. We'll talk about him just
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But George Pickens right behind him, followed by Jake ferguson side.
Note to this, as of this recording, Ceedee Lam's still
in concussion protocols. We're still waiting to see what the
updates are on him. Aaron Jones Sr. And then Justin Jefferson,
which tells you a lot about how the season's going
for Justin Jefferson that he's number five of five on
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this list.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Befooria, if you are picking.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Somebody here, is it somebody on that list or somebody
maybe off board?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
No, it's on the list.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
My heart wants to say Justin Jefferson, But I don't
think he is the first one, right Like, I think they're.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
In ketchup mode when it happens. So I think George
Pickens is where I'm going.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Coming off of that hugely disappointing game last TNF. He
got into it with Richard Sherman after he is their
go to guy in the red and end zone anyway,
And I think with everything that transpired last week, I
think they're, you know, teams as much as they say
they don't listen outside noise and stuff, I think with
something like what happened to they want to get.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Him right and get him going early.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Oh absolutely, teams du like there's no way social media
report everything's out there. It's like so hard to avoid,
like everybody does Laque of those guys Javonte Pickens, Ferguson Jones, Jefferson,
of those guys you like to score the first touchdown.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I mean, the way the season has been going, like
we've seen Tony Pollard last week, just go completely bonkers.
I'm gonna say it's Aaron Jones. It's gonna be the
least likely guy that you were probably looking at on
this list where you know, I gotta stick with my
joneses man, So I'm gonna go Aaron Jones SR. I
was gonna say if his name was Aaron Smith or no, no,
I probably wouldn't even noticed him on that board. To
be honest, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna throw out
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another wrench in this one. What about Jake Ferguson, What
about the ferg Daddy?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
They get down close little bootleg action, they're the goal
line and when I.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Hit forerg you are we are.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
We gonna play the visionary again where I predict how
Jake Ferguson gets in tden zone. I will It will
be probably a third and goal and then we're gonna
look at dag back up, look to his left to
see Pickens, look at Ryan Florinard because I think CD
is not gonna play and he's gonna dump.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It right down in the middle of the field to
Jake Ferguson for a.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Touchdown, to fer Delicious for the touchdown there. Huh yeah,
you don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
In fact, the quan has the script. He got to
have it. They have it on Good Morning Football.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He got the script and he's just let you know
how things work there.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Probably because I've been hanging with Seth man Less.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's why Less the the guys in the black unmarked
vans come and take me away.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'm joking totally joke.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Anyways, get a little further into into Sunday Night Football,
uh flor you we saw Justin Jefferson on this list.
We know what kind of season it has been for him.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
The Cowboys, despite being improved, they are still giving up
yards to wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Would you dare? Certainly DNFs, But even in like a
redraft league, start Jordan Addison this week?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So I I for a different play. I write up
like deep plays, and he was one of the ones
I wrote up. But that understand that it is.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It's like if you're desperate, or if you're in a
fourteen team league or something like that, I have conviction
and being like, I will trust Justin Jefferson in a
favorable matchup because he's Justin Jefferson. But Jordan Addison, he
has been getting volume. I'm not gonna say he's not,
but he is not that same caliber of player. So yeah,
he's not someone that I'm like forcing into lineups.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
But maybe you're you're a.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Little banged up with injuries, or you're in a really
deep league something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
To me, that is where Jordan Addison slides in.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
All right, So Addison maybe in the right situation gets
a look from folks. We talked about Javonte Williams just
touched on him briefly there with the touchdown odds.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Has Deefonte Williams become matchup proof?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I know it's like, I know it's weird to be
asked this question in week fifteen, like seasons almost over.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
But has he become matchup proof this year? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I mean, honestly, when we look at some of the
games where we shouldn't be starting him, I mean the
Chiefs game, he puts up RB one numbers, the Denver game,
he puts up RB one numbers, And I'm looking at
this game like, why wouldn't he put up RB one numbers?
And he's attached to a top five scoring offense. The
Cowboys were in offense this whole offseason that we were
talking up of, like they have the weapons now which
puts them in scoring opportunities. They look at Javante every
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time they get in striking distance. So I do feel
like this game they're going to be in striking distance
more and often than not. So I could see him
coming in and putting up RB one numbers. And also
he's getting involved in the passing game. As you can
see on the b roll that is one of those
things that he was doing in Denver as well. But
he is still doing it now at a more efficient rate.
So yeah, Javonte Williams next season is going to be
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interesting conversation where he goes in drafts.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean, I feel my early prediction is probably a
late second, early third for Javonte.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
But yeah, it feels good.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Unless people, you know, some people are still sleeping and
not believe. And I look at it like, hey, that's
a solid place to put him in ADP. I would
take them there.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I'm glad I can get back in on it because
I was ready to kind of give up, but not
because of Javonte, just because of the situations he was in.
It just didn't seem particularly good for him. So nice
to see him coming back into our fantasy lives for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
There you go. We keep going on our Week fifteen previews.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Monday Night Football, The Dolphins at the Steelers, Miami kind
of running hot, the Steelers coming off of big win
ins Baltimore and very much in the cat birds seat
to win the AFC North. You can see that game
Monday at fifteen pm Eastern on the Four Letter Network.
Question to you, Lakwan Jones, is Tuwatumdabaioloa a startable quarterback
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option this week?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I mean have you seen his game log in the
last couple of weeks. And again, I'm not going to
spend my Birthday weekend losing sleep at night with two
being the last resort if I know, if I go
to the next round into the playoffs, I'm looking at
this like, no, I'm looking for better options, Like I'm
even looking at Bryce Young maybe as a pivot option.
I would see William Trevor mid Lawrence is an option
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that I've said this week in replacing the quarterbacks, we
cannot trust. Tua has not been great, man, It's been sorry.
And and even with the matchup that we look at
the Steelers defense where you can get up on this secondary,
I'm not gonna trust this, especially when Davon h Chen
banged up, so a lot is going to be on
Tua's back where I'm like, nah, bro, you have been terrible.
You have been unrosterble in these last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Man, It's weird that the vibes are better in Miami.
And a two QB league. This week I have to
decide Tua or Caleb. Yeah, not fun.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
I Mariota is my QB one, Like I lost Jayden,
it's been a bad year.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I probably go with Caleb because I would rather if
it's gonna be bad, I want to rip that band
aid off on Sunday, Like I don't want to die
a slow painful death on Monday night.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I'm the exact opposite, because I'm like, hey, if.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I'm gonna go down, I want to go I want
to still at least have a chance night.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You know, slow painful deaths is watching yourself watching your
team just bleed out on the floor, as to a
struggles to throw three yard passes.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Like Flora, You're gonna go to bed angry Sunday if
your team doesn't put up enough points and then you're
looking at Monday like.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
All right too, you got to bring it home. That
is so stressful.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
So you know, I said I had eight teams of
the this is one that it's again.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It's a two QB league and my qbs are awful.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I look at it and I'm like, yeah, I'm not
winning this league, so I'm hopeful.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
My skill position. Guys are really good, but they got
to carry me. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
We will find out for sure, but that is an
awful dilemma to have to have. On the other side,
Aaron Rodgers looked really good against the Ravens last week.
I posted on Blue Sky that it looked like twenty
sixteen Aaron Rodgers again, right. He was moving around in
the pocket, he ran for a touchdown, he did the
discount double check. Even it looked like the old Aaron Rodgers.
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What should we expect for him this week against the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I think he goes back to what he always has been,
least with the Steelers, which is a floor play, right,
Like last week was his season high in passing yards.
Before that, he hadn't thrown for two point fifty in
a game this year. He hasn't thrown for multiple passing
touchdowns since Week eight against the Packers, which was hate inspired.
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And yeah, the rushing touchdown was awesome last week, but
you can't like that was his first one of the year,
and I think his first one in over a calendar year.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Like, you can't bank on that. So Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Is only to me in play in two QB leagues
and even that, like you look at last week was fun,
but before that he had three points a week before that,
and he had less than ten in three games before that.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
So I'm not trusting him in the Fantasy playoffs. I know.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Earlier in the week on Fantasy Live, Patrick Claiband said,
the Rogers Revolution is a one week thing, and it
sounds like you're sort of doubling down on that as well.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Look, we keep talking about these deeper QB twos. I
would take a shot on JJ over Aaron Rodgers this week?
What is all with you with JJ? Man? Absolutely not?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Noh yeah. When I'm diving this deep, I'm looking at
the matchup and that's it, you know you? So you
play Aaron Rodgers over JJ McCarthy this week? Yes, I would.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I would confidently, Yes, I'm not playing JJ because look,
we look at JJ with the matchup, right, we know
the Cowboys defense is bad at the past, but how
bad is JJ? So we're comparing bad and bad, and
I think JJ is worse than the Cowboys defense. But
I'm sure we can get into this later.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Aaron Rodgers failed to score three Fantasy points two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Three.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I know, I know, I know, I'm going with the
better talent in this one, regardless of the matchup. I'm
going with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
The talent is old. Yeah, you look at me as old.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Three straight games and single digit fantasy points for the
Earth the just who old to be on my fantasy.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Roster since Week nine. Last week is the only week
he's scored more than fifteen points. We shall not.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I mean in the end, that's probably both score Like
na Man, JJ's throwing three touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
This week were like twelve points.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And it's gonna be Riley Leonard. He may not even
play this week. We'll say Riley Leonard, chill out, get
back to the starts. And since looking at the wide
receiver position Florida, who do you like?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Who do you not like? This week?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Jalen Waddle I think is a must start this week.
He's like the one consistent thing in the Dolphins passing attack,
and the Steelers have struggled against receivers. Terry McLaurin has
a lot of history of success against this matchup. It
had fourteen targets with Mariota and then the Giants struggle
against receivers.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Wandell that's lq's boy.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
He's been getting so much volume, and it's a really
good matchup for him as well. And then I feel
like we're going to talk about Justin Jefferson a little
bit more, and then my sis, Michael Wilson. I wanted
to avoid that matchup by all. Like I've played fantasy
a lot, We've seen great stories come crumbling down when
they have matchups like this. I think you get rid
of the Colts wide receivers this week, it's going to
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be Philip Rivers' best case scenario, and the Seahawks are
elite against receivers. I'm not going to get rid of
the away from the Bears wide receivers and that terrible
weather game against a tough Browns defense.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And then Xavierworthy, like I know he had his best
game in a while last week.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
That feels very circumstantial because they couldn't get Rashid Rice going.
I'm not The Chargers' secondary, I think is highly underrated,
and now it's getting more talking point because of Monday.
But still they've been great all year.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, they have a really good this year.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean having a guy like Derwin James just sort
of patrolling the area also is going to make your
secondary a whole lot better. Let's look at Wanda Robinson.
I'm saying, like if I was pitching, Yeah, like wand Delay.
You know that's what I say. I mentioned earlier, the
Giants and Commanders. They both have bad defenses. I think
there's a situation where they're good. Weirdly be a lot
of points scores because these defenses are bad. Talk to
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me about Wanda Robinson, who really is having a very
good fantasy season.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yes, the volume is there, Like I want to have
fantasy managers really get their expectations in order because I
am a little worried about Wanda Robinson's a dot Now
I'm looking at his a dot, which means basically how
he's being targeted down for the depth of his targets.
But we know that he's a yat guy. I feel
like with Jackson Dark, we're not seeing the full capability
of Wandell Robinson. So I'm not looking at Wanda as
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a wide receiver two or obviously not a wide receiver one.
He is a flex play this week. Just make sure
your other wide receivers are lock solid. So I wouldn't
be starting him over at chrys Olave because I think
the ceiling may be a little bit higher at Tetraro
McMillan in a difficult matchup. I look at this is
where Wandell Robinson's a piece that gives you that safe
floor just based on the voume. So folks do not
go out there expecting he's going to be putting up
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what he was doing with Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson.
So I just want folks to have that expectation clear
when they're making these roster decisions.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
This week.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh so I do the segment on NFL Fantasy Live
called Slots of Fun where I talk about guys who
prolay primarily in the slot and kind of project my projection.
Now admittedly, like you know, some of this is entertainment purposes.
Only eight catches eighty one yards for wan Dale this week.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I like it. Oh. I like that. It's a sixteen
point game, sixteen point ye and if somehow he finds
the end zone, he finds the en zone, it's a
huge game out of Wandale Robins and he can do it.
He can do it. He can do it against Washington
for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Moving over to the tight end position, as I find
my place in the rundown again, who are your starts
and sits at tight end?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Floria.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I still think Tyler Warren is the only Colt I
would start outside of Jonathan Taylor with confidence this week
because it's a really good matchup for him, and I
think the quarterback is going to rely heavily on the
tight end. Donkin kid back at practice this week. We
saw last week it was Dawson Knox get more production.
I think we see Kinkaid take a step forward usage
wise this week in a good matchup. I like Isaiah
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likely more than Mark Andrews, but I think both are
in play this week. We saw last week two tight
ends can very much eat. We saw the week before
that two tight ends could very much eat again, and
now those two were the Ravens two weeks ago against
the Bengals, so I like both of them. Dallas Goddard,
I know he had a big game last week. Seems
like a kind of matchup driven because the Chargers are
so good against wide receivers. The Raiders, on the other hand.
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Third few was yards of tight ends, the season fewest
since we ten Hunter Henry. The Bills have been the
toughest matchup for tight ends this season. Evan Ingram is
just a name at this point, and Mikeaseki, I know
he's coming off his biggest game of the year, but
I wouldn't chase the points because that game equates to
like seven of his other games from this.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So the Dallas Goddard thing is interesting because I looked
at him and I have him as a beware this week, right, Yeah,
because you mentioned that the Raiders don't give up a
lot of yards to tight ends, and I kind of
dug into that a little bit, and what I realize
is they don't give a lot of the tight end
because people don't throw to the tight end against them,
because I think what happens is you can run the
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ball so effectively and you can your wide receivers you're
so wide open. It's just like offenses don't You're like,
oh yeah, we don't even have to get to the
tight end because like our wide receivers are just galloping
through their secondary Untie, do you hear that?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
AJ hold on to the ball this week? Please hold on?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So yeah, So I say beware of Dallas Goddard not
because I think the Raiders are gonna clamp down on him,
but just because I think Jalen Hurts is going to
have his pick of like Saquon and aj and DeVonta
and like, oh hey, we haven't really gotten to Dallas
Goddard because of them at this point.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Okay, you want to ask you though about Tyler Warren.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
We have talked a lot about Philip Rivers because it
is very possible that he starts this week. Do you
still trust Tyler Warren or maybe it's he the only
guy you can trust with Philip Rivers at quarterback, Yes,
just based off the matchup.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
This has been a weak point for the Seahawks' defense
all season long against the tight end position. Allow on
the second most catches, second most catches and fans points
to the position. So I look at Tyler Warren where
he gives us back that tight end one performance that
we have been missing these last couple of weeks, and
I think, if it's Rivers, if it's Riley Leonard who
had a full practice on Wednesday, I'm saying this now,
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it doesn't matter who's there at the quarterback position. I
don't think it's a bold take to think that we
can get number one this week for the fantasy playoffs.
In Week fifteen, tight end one, Tyler Warren.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
It's Tyler Warren still in play.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I do feel like that's kind of the consensus that
if there's anybody they can trust, it's Tyler Warren one
because of who the quarterback might be, whoever it is,
and also because the matchup. Because Seattle's done a good
job of shutting down pretty much everything else. They have
not done a good job of shutting down tight end.
So if you've got Tyler Warren, maybe you can breathe
the least a little bit easier. Also, as we've said
repeatedly on this show, the bar for success at the
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tight end position a lot lower than it is at
a lot of other ten points, that's all we want.
Ten points can make you a tight end one. That's
all you really need.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Time for a break.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
But when we come back, we're putting Justin Jefferson in
the Starto Meter. We'll give you our bold predictions for
week fifteen, and we'll catch.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Up with our friend cam Wolf. All Right, we did
the Starto meter earlier in the week.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
We did it with quarterbacks, but the man who actually
I think started this whole conversation was Justin Jefferson. So
we had to of course, but jj in the starto meter,
And so I listed some other wide receivers here, and
you guys can tell me, and I'll start with you.
Floria and Lakwan, you can jump in whether you're starting
Jefferson or these other.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Guys that I'm mentioning here.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
So first, do you start justin Jefferson against the Cowboys
or Deebo Samuel against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
It's not even a question to me. I'm going justin.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Jefferson, Deebo Samuel, Diebo Samuel. You might be Jefferson, Floria
might be Jefferson, all of these, and then Lakwan's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
The other guy on all of these.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
So let's have the conversation then, because that's exactly what
I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Well, but we got to we gotta go through all this,
you know, because there is one name, and there's one
name in here that I think you're gonna be sort
of twisted over Laquant just based on your past history
on this show. We'll keep going down the list, all right,
So Florio, Jefferson or Troy Franklin against the Packers.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I mean it's Jefferson. He said he would drop Troy
Franklin on Monday.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
All right, So Jefferson or Troy Franklin. Thanks for Lorio.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Some people didn't watch one show, but okay, yes, Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
All right, Justin Jefferson or Michael Wilson.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I'm going Justin Jefferson there because of matchup, all right,
all right, Michael Wilson, Michael Wilson against the Texans.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I should throw on mind, I'm gonna I go Jefferson
over Deebo. I would probably go Jefferson over Franklin. I
probably go Jefferson over Wilson too, but that one's close
for me. That one's close. I think I go Jefferson
over Wilson. But it's close, all right, Laurio, Jefferson or
Stefan Diggs against the Bills, which, by the way, it
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sounds weird to say Stephan Diggs against the Bills.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, it does. It depends on Christian Benford. He was
in a walking boot.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
On Thursday, but every report so far is saying that
it's just precautionary and like he was looking good at practice.
We'll see if he sits, I will go digs. If
he plays, I'm going Jefferson, all right, Uh Higgs digs?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
He lit him up last time, Diggs, And if a
Benford ain't gonna be out there, he gonna do it again.
Because it's motivated by hate.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I think it's I think it's Steph Diggs this week,
over over Jefferson. For me, this is the one where
I think Lakwan's gonna maybe, you know, have a little
bit of a headache here, uh, Forrio Jefferson or Ladd
Mconkey against the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I'm actually gonna go Justin Jefferson. Oh okay, all right,
laqu I know how you feel about Ladd. I know
you are not a lad. You're not one of Ladd's lads.
How are you? Is it jeff or is it Lad?
Can that pass? You have to make a decision. Come on, Jefferson, volume.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Give me Lad. I'm gonna go Laddle. I'm gonna go
Lad over Justin Jefferson this week.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Listen. This is tough because we saw what happened.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
With Justin Herbert with that left hand right, low pass volume,
low opportunities for all these pass catchers to go out
there and put up flex numbers or even wide receiver
two numbers. I'm still going Lad. I'm going Lid because
I can't put the trust in the hands and a
young quarterback that has not shown us anything that he
can bring Justin Jefferson remotely to even be trusted in
a flex position. So I'm going lad this week.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Jefferson does have some double digit fantasy games with JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Oh my god, how long ago was that? He has
one touchdown since week too? No, I need touchdowns, I
need fantasy points now.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
The other thing, though.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Is like, I get it, the last two games have
been really bad, but we get like two games is a.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Microscopic sample size.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
We have five and a half years of being like
Justin Jefferson is maybe the most talented wide receiver walking
the planet in the best by far matchup a wide
receiver could.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Have who was throwing him the ball? That's where the
source of the problem is. My boy is not even
getting the looks. That is the issue. The yards upside
is not there, the touchdown upside nothing.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Well last week last week, I think you have to
throw out the window.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
They were up they won thirty one. Nothing like they
threw twenty three times. They might be down.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Thirty one nothing against Dallas in the first quarters. Like, no, no,
But that's really one hundred percent. Something that needs to
be factored in is they're going to have to throw
maybe fifty times compared to twenty times last week.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You know, like they're gonna be in ketchup mode the
whole Jamison volume there for sure, I think that helps.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
All right, last one, Justin Jefferson or Jamison Williams against
the Rams.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
This is one where I would go, Jamison, all right,
we're a line. Let's go Florio.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
That's my boy. I figure you go Jamo in this one. Yeah, yeah,
against the Rams. There's opportunities. There's opportunities in the secondary
for explosive plays. Okay, that's all I'm gonna say. I'm
not gonna pinpoint the dB or the secondary. That's gonna
let it up. But there is opportunities for him to
get off in this game, all right, Emmanuel Forbes, come
on MG next? All right, Well, I'm just names on
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the bullets.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I'm just I'm not asking.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Maybe I'm just trying to think back at some receivers
we have recommended against the Cowboys over over the course
of this season, and like, come on, Justin Jefferson buils
them all out of the water. Like I mean, you
look at the like Wandell had his career game against them.
Aj Brown had his biggest get right game at that
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time against them. Luther Burden had his breakout game against them.
Marvel eight against them, Jamison like everyone who has played
the Cowboys has eaten.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I mean, look, I still say I think I take
lad over Jefferson, but I definitely take Jamison Williams over
Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So this was actually peaceful.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I thought it was going to be a little bit
more chaotic, but this was actually peaceful.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
When we do bold predictions, I'll tell you that I haven't.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Heard I heard the last of Jeffer and Justice, which
actually seems perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Then, so let's let's pivot. Let's pivot. You had a
glass of milk.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
We have some spicy takes for Week fifteen, so lakwan
start us off.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Let's get spicy.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Listen, I'm going spicy with this one. Harrow Fannin Jr.
Is going to put up a twenty five burger, and folks,
if you don't know, now you know we are officially
on Harrow Fannin Jr. Watch Because back in February, a
random day that I decided to say if he finishes
top five, I will dye my hair blonde again. I
don't know why I keep doing this to myself, but
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he is currently doing this. He's currently top five. But
it's fine. It's working. I get the credibility as a
tightened whisper of what the fancy streets are saying.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
But it's fine.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
A twenty five burger for Harold Finn and in your
this week interesting, We're.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Going to see Lakwan's family this weekend. Oh about we'll
ask the wife how that's the white and the kids.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
The kids are going to be like you know esus,
blatantly honest about it too.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
If you do die you want, can you not tell
your kids?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
And then let's them show up when you pick them up,
just be like surprise, surprise. Listen, it didn't go well
last time and she does not know that I made
this game well again hair on the tight end. So
when you guys see her this weekend, this should be
an interesting reaction.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That she does not know about. Right now wait, I
cannot wait. Uh. In the meantime, Flora, what is your
your hot take for the week?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
We are the old fan and show of record. Now
the rest of the season it. Mine was going to
be pretty much what yours is. Like last week, mine
was a one hundred yards and a touchdown for Jefferson
And this week my Bowl prediction like we send them out,
they get tweeted out or whatever is Oh no wait,
I meant this is the week.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That he's gonna go for one hundred and a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
But Travis etn best Fantasy game of the season, which
is somewhere around like twenty three points. He hasn't had
the biggest of blow up games, but he has just
been reliable week in and week out. And like MG
was saying, oh no wait, that was on a different show.
The Jets run defense has been really bad since they
traded Quinnin Williams. Travis Etn has been running really well
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as of late. I wouldn't be surprised if this is
a not really most competitive game and it's one where
the Jags just run the ball all day long.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, we do so many shows together that they all
kind of yeah at some point, No, I get it.
I get that, you sort of get the hint of
what my hot take is. My Bowl prediction is going
to be based on what Florio said justin Jefferson will
have his second twenty point game of the fantasy season,
the first one wow that he has had since we
back in Week four when Carson Wentz was actually quarterback
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in the Minnesota Vikings at the time. I just think
they're really going to go out of their way to
get him the ball, especially after the last two weeks.
The dudes had a grand total of fifteen receiving yards
in the last two games. That's got to change, and
I think you're gonna see them making a concerted effort,
whether it's wide receiver screens, whether it's quick slants, just
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something where McCarthy can get the ball out of his
hands quickly and then get it to Jefferson and just
let him sort of work. So I just look, man,
I know this hasn't been the season the Vikings wanted
it to be. But the way to sort of fix
that is by getting your guy the ball as much
as possible.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So I think we're going to see that happen this week,
and we're.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Gonna see justin Jefferson, if somehow you survived, I was
gonna say, I would love to know the percentage of
playoff teams that have just have It's pretty small.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yes, that's why I want to know who was in
the room with us that we were speaking to that
actually made it this far to the fantasy playoffs in
my home league, that Justin Jefferson manager made the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
All right, there's gonna be somebody out there, because like
you can draft well around that, you know, like you
can hit. Got you Maybe you got a Javonte Williams,
I hope your running back spot.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Maybe you found a Mecca Buka who got you through
the first few weeks. Like there's ways that it happened.
So if you did that, I need to see the data.
I need to see the numbers. I need to see
the person anything.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Is Like I'm here battling for him. I have Justin
Jefferson on no team, like I didn't draft.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Him in a single team.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I was about to say, you sound like you're heavily
invested in this raiment, like I am not invested in.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
I am invested now because I'm invested in our reviewers
and listeners fantasy teams that have Justin jeffersons.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I have him in a dynasty league which is going nowhere.
But it's not because of Justin Jefferson. Because my quarterback
situation is an absolute dumpster fire.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
That's that's what that is. So and then they're doing
justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Anyway, those are the hot Takes presented by Frank's Red
Hot l Q.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Appreciate you logging in as always, service talk to you
next week. Yes, sir, it's another week and we.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Are happy as always to be joined by our friend
and NFL Network reporter Cam Wolf. And Cam, I'm sure
so you're in the playoffs, I assume it both.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Are you the one seed in both of your leagues
this year?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Yeah, I'm the one seed in both of my leagues,
and I'm scared man, like you only got negativity to go.
This week, I'm playing the eight seed one of my leagues,
the guy six and eight. I don't know how he
got in the playoffs, but he's got a shot and
if he knocks me off, he'll he'll be laughing. And
so I'm curious how people feel is that one seed.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I do remember a couple of weeks ago, you were like,
I picked up Mike Evans and my league mates were like,
what do you know?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
And now I'm sure coming your way?
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Yeah, broken clocks are right twice a day, you know
what to tell you. You know, sometimes it just happens
that way, right, you know. I also picked up Trey
Benson and I just had to cut him.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
So sometimes you don't get them all right, right. You
win some, you lose some. That's guy where it goes.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I got to ask you what the biggest story of
the week in Indianapolis. What are your expectations for forty
four year old grandfather Philip Rivers coming back to play.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, I have no expectations. I
just want to see it. I think it's gonna be
a fun story. I can't imagine getting off the couch
and doing anything I did four years ago, including like
playing flag football, so I can't imagine tackle football.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I look.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
I hope there's a fun player too in the journey.
I hope that's he slings a deep touchdown or shakes
somebody off of him.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
But this is not the right week that I would
love to make.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
My comeback as a forty four year playing a Seattle
Seahawks team that is probably gonna blitch you and see
what your instincts are. So I don't have a lot
of optimism that is gonna go super well for Phillips Philip,
but I'm hopeful for a fun moment or two.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Hey, if it goes poorly this week, imagine what a
couple weeks from it looks like they play like Cam. Look,
you you've been with the brown like following the Browns
a lot this year and stuff has sha door made
a case to be there QB one next season.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
He certainly made a case for sure.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
I think that the way he played this past week
was the best performance he's had all season. He's improved
vastly on his pocket management, not drifting as much taking
those sacks. That's something that the Browns are really emphasized
with him, and he's showing a playmaking the ability that
none of their order of other quarterbacks can show. Now
to me, it's my consistency. You've got a few more
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games left, can you put up a few more like that?
And if so, then yeah, maybe the Browns start thinking
we kick some of those pack picks back twenty seven,
we get pieces around him. If you don't fall in
love with somebody in that draft class, then why not
give it one more year. I think that he certainly
can make his case with with duplicating a couple of
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those games.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah, I mean, I do like like they've kind of
kept the offense sort of simple. They add a little
bit in each and every week. I think he's done
a good job with what they have given him to
do so far. So I'm curious how to watch that development.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Can we get a Dolphins vibes checked? The vibes were
bad earlier in the year, it's kind of turned. What
are the vibes around the Dolphins? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Yeah, I was just in a Dolphins locker room about
twenty minutes ago and Chop Robinson told me we had
hit rock bottom. We looked around each other and we're like,
I'm playing awful, You're playing awful?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Is this who we are? Are we awful?
Speaker 5 (42:18):
And they really have galvanized together. They're playing with the
level of looseness, nothing to lose because they honestly had
nothing to play for until this week.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
And you look up and you're like, maybe if.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
We squid, maybe if this team does this and this,
and maybe we can get back into the hunt. And
so I wonder if they can still play with that
level of looseness. But a big portion of it is
they chained their identity leaning on that run game, leaning
on Devon h Chan in a way they have never
done before, and he's running the ball spectacular. I just
saw him at practice and he said he's doing well
(42:50):
health wise, and I expect him to play Sunday despite
that rib injury.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
And don't think I didn't notice Josh Allen's picture returned
to your after a big win against the Bengals. But Cam,
I have to ask you, what is going on with
Joe Burrow. If I'm a Bengals fan his comments yesterday,
I'm on like panic ten level right now.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Yeah, it is always interesting because Joe doesn't talk much.
Joe's very internal, and so when he says anything of value,
you have to listen because it's coming from the heart.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I haven't got.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Any indications that, like Joe Burrow is considering retirement, which
is what I think some people went through there. But
I think that he's just getting a little worn down
by the injury cycle. Seems like every year it's him
coming back and having a great year and then him
getting injured, and it's.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Back and forth, back and forth.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
I just think with no playoffs, no end results, I
think he had some time where he was trying to
compartmentalize it.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
But Joe's a competitor.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
I think he'll come out there this week and play great,
but certainly onus on the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
To not waste this Joe Burrow era.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
And I think back to Andrew Luck, and you just
don't want to look a few years from now and say,
what if we were better set up to win in
the Joe Burrow era.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, that was the name that that popped into my
head too, was Andrew Luck. And I wonder if you
know Colts people are Colts fans aren't texting saying, hey, man,
make sure you take care of your guy.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
We've seen what happens if he pulls it as you look.
Maybe they call it Carson back. That's a coach up
to playing quarterback for the Bengals. Who knows which game
we got this week, Cam.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
I'm actually at the Steelers Dolphins game, so I will
get to see that Monday night game and see whether
the Dolphins can keep this magic run going against old
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
So I'm really eager to see how they defend this
passing attack.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
You know, they've been up and down this year, the
Steelers have, but dk Metcalt coming off a really strong week.
You know, we're Seul Douglas on the other end is
played well for the Dolphins. That's going to be a
fun matchup to watch. And then on the other side,
Ken the Steelers slow down Devon Chan, who's like we
talked about playing incredible Pro Bowl type year to me,
and the Steelers have really really struggled to stop that
(44:57):
run defense, the run game all over. So I think
this is actually a very competitive game. I know the
Steelers are the leaders of their division, but I think
the Dolphins can give them a run if they play
their style of ball. Don't try to get the ball
too much into his hands in this cold weather. I
just try to hand the ball off to twenty eight
and see what he can do.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Damn. Always appreciate it. Look forward to catch it up
with you next week. Boss.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
We'll look forward to seeing you out there between the
Dolphins and the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
That is it. We are done.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
We appreciate you hanging out with the NFL Fantasy Football Show.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
You know the drill.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Tell two friends to tell two friends rate review and
remember only the mediocre are always at their best. Be safe,
take care of yourselves. Enjoy Week fifteen. We'll talk to
you again on Monday. Wow spook at at bottok As
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