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December 4, 2024 23 mins

Where should the Minnesota Vikings and Pittsburgh Steelers be ranked following their recent victories over the Cardinals and Bengals? Can Justin Tucker work himself out of this slump after he’s missed several important kicks for the Baltimore Ravens? How much trust do you have in the Washington Commanders after they blew out the Tennessee Titans? Will the 6-6 Tampa Bay Buccaneers win their division over the Atltanta Falcons?

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to a brand new edition of NFL Power Rankings.
If you want complete analysis of all the teams, all
you have to do is check out Eric's article on
NFL dot com. Eric, it's wild to me. I had
a couple teams before the season started that I thought
could win a Super Bowl, and yet sometimes I'm wrong.
Actually usually I'm wrong. But I cannot wait to hear
where you think some of those teams actually deserve to

(00:31):
be in your latest edition of the Power Rankings.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Absolutely right. I had the forty nine ers near the
very top the start of the season. I was a
big Bengals believer. Believe I had them in the top ten.
You know, we can go down the list, Cowboys. You know,
there are other teams that certainly fit that bill, and
we've kind of pushed them to the side. Mike, I'm
sorry they're not in that upper half right now. They're
kind of out of the picture and looking in.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, they are. But we still have some premier teams
that have absolutely balled this season, and not necessarily a
ton of change at the top of the rankings. As
we go through some of your squads. Here in fact,
with the top four teams, with the Lions, the Bills,
the Eagles, and the Kansas City Chiefs in that order
sit one through four. By the way, from a Lion's perspective,
eleven and one. That is the best start in franchise history.

(01:17):
The Vikings maybe not getting nearly enough love. I'm gonna
make sure we talk about them. The Packers sit at
number six. Cannot wait to see them on Thursday Night
Football against the Lions squad at seven, it's the Steelers
rust with over four hundred passing yards he was cooking
in week number thirteen. And the Ravens at eight. Yeah,
we have a real kicking problem. Time for the team

(01:38):
of the week. Instead of one singular team, I'm gonna
ask you about the group of the top four, Eric,
These are really talented teams, and yet as I was
watching some of these games unfold, I started to hedge
over the weekend and say, is this the right order?
So I'm gonna frame it this way to you. Of
the top four teams, who do you think is best
situated to make a deep run and more importantly, win

(02:00):
a Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah? It may not reflect how I have him right now.
I mean I always say it's what the team is
at this very moment, right and we can obviously have
a big effect on the rankings. Didn't this week, But yeah,
if you just take those top four, I can obviously
make a case for the Kansas City Chiefs. We know
their recent track record. They're going for their third straight
Super Bowl. I can clearly make a case for the Lions.
They've been the best team arguably weeks one through now

(02:25):
in the NFL this season. Certainly could make a case
for the Bills the way they're playing, killing the Niners.
But I'm gonna go with the Eagles just because I
think that win over the Ravens did kind of tell
us a lot about them as a team. They played
phenomenal ball since the buy. They march into Baltimore come
out with a win after falling behind by two scorers.
It really was a statement victory in a lot of ways.

(02:46):
Up by two scores late before the cosmetic touchdown, but
they could beat you in so many ways. The long ball,
the power run game, the finesse run game, the screen game. Defensively,
they've gotten so good the secondary Zach Bonnett, linebacker Jalen
Carter wrecking people on defense. It's really a full team
effort right now, and it's been impressive to watch after

(03:07):
you know, frankly a disappointing season, even one that started
ten to one a year ago. So I'm buying on
the Eagles even if they are number three in my
power rankings right now.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I also think you made a really good point in
your article about all of these teams on NFL dot Com.
The Eagles an easier schedule than the Lions the rest
of the way, so I think there's a reasonable conversation
about home field advantage what's going to end up being
more important. I'm glad I'm not alone here because I've
been loving up this Lions team all season long. But
after the win that the Eagles had against the Ravens,
game is done, and I sort of lean back on

(03:37):
the couch for a second. I was like, are they
better than Detroit? Because that was a really impressive win.
Although once again I can story every single one of
these losses for the Ravens, it's still a little bit
of a head scratcher. We'll talk about Baltimore in just
a second, but I want to move on to number five,
the Minnesota Vikings. In any other year we're talking about
them as one of the premier teams. Got double digit

(03:58):
wins already. I started the show asking you about perception.
Is our perception of Sam Darnold the reason why this
team does not get more love nationally?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah? I think there's absolutely something too that the Darnald factor. Right,
you look at the teams above them on the list,
they have more established quarterbacks or more established systems perhaps,
And you know, there has been a little bit of
volatility for a ten to two team. You know, they've
had some ups and downs, they've blown some big leads,
they've had a fight off some lesser teams. But you're right.
I mean, you know, a couple of years ago they

(04:29):
won a lot of football games, and I think everything
was undone because they lost that wildcard game to the Giants.
But you know, we shouldn't forget the fact that they
were a competitive team with all the quarterback injuries last year.
And Donald has been pretty darned steady all things considered,
as he'd been amazing. I don't know, but really from
overtime against Chicago, I think until now, you know, he's

(04:50):
played some pretty good ball and has the Lions in
a great spot. Excuse me, the Vikings in a great
spot heading into that big game against the Lions on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
You know, I think everyone makes a big deal about
the quarterback, and rightfully so. You'd want one of the
more talented guys than not have one the most talented guys.
Say what you want about Sam Darnold, who once again
is just delivering this season. Joe Burrow is top five
quarterback in the NFL and he's having, at least numbers wise,
an MVP type season. Doesn't matter. They can't win some
football games. This is a really good football team. Emphasis

(05:21):
on the team part from a Vikings perspective, the Steelers
checking in at number seven, I gotta tell you if
they if the offense looks like you did this last
time out, they are one of the scariest teams in
the AFC. I just don't know how reliable that is,
considering some of the hiccups leading into this pass game
that they had had offensively.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, I think you should start the game tape immediately
after the pick six, which really wasn't what Russell Wilson's fault.
It may not have been pickings fault. There may have
been a call there that went uncalled, but absolutely did
Wilson look good on Sunday. I mean, this is the Bengals.
They've had a lot of bad defensive performances. You can't
overlook that. But you know, the long ball was there.
The few opportunities he had, he took him and he

(06:03):
hit him short and intermediate stuff. He was just carving
up those Cincinnati zones all day long. And when it
took time to, you know, move around a little bit
and find guys like friar Me down the middle, he did.
I mean, Russell Wilson has taken this job and run
with it. I know the play has been a little
bit up and down leading into this game, but I
don't think there are very many questions about whether Mike

(06:25):
Tomlin made the right decision. And they could still bring
in justin Fields for a game ceiling scramble there at
the end, and he's got his role. Wilson's got a
bigger one right now.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
By the way, when Tomlin went to fields there, what
was your going through your mind? Because personally, I was like,
don't do this, don't do this. Then obviously right once
again about the quarterback situation. Tomlin knows his guys.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
He knows his guys, he knows the situation. He's bypassed
some of those opportunities in the past, but he took
it late in the game and it paid off with
a seven yard run. And yeah, I mean this is
the kind of Steelers team that can make some noise
in the playoffs. All right.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Number eight, The team that I think has got the
best roster in the NFL, and that is the Baltimore Ravens.
There is now officially, if you didn't think there was before,
you have to now there is a kicking problem with
arguably the greatest kicker in the history of the game,
who's probably you know, a Hall of Famer one. It's
all said and done. What am I supposed to do
if I'm a Ravens fan with the Justin Tucker situation?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, eight miss field goals, two missed extra points on
the season, you know, cost him in the in the
Steelers game, cost him on Sunday as well. And you know, look,
it was a close game. They could have made it
a ten to nothing score. Misses that one missed two
x two other kicks throughout the course of the game,
had a chance to take the lead both times, couldn't
do it. It really was frustrating. And look, this is

(07:44):
a player who's obviously had, you know, built a reputation
as one of the greatest kickers of all time, arguably
the goat as far as kickers go. But this season
has not gone according to plan. Now, most of the
misses have been longer once right, they've been fifty and above.
But we've seen the last three games he's missed some
sub fifty yard kicks, and boy, this is the Ravens
team that that hasn't been as proficient in the red

(08:06):
zone every single week. So you know, this is the
kind of opportunities that they have to cash in on
if they want to be a serious Super Bowl contender.
At this point, what do they do? I mean, they're
sticking with them for now, but it's a tough tough call.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Do you bring someone in to compete?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I think I would at least have somebody at the
ready on the practice squad, ready to go, maybe take
you know, some of the kickoff duties away from things
like that. But you know, John Harbon knows his team,
knows his guy. There's also the chance that Tucker could
work himself out of this slump, after all, you know,
his his credentials. If there's a mechanical issue, a health issue,
maybe they can figure it out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I just don't know what the next move is because
if it's a confidence thing and then you bring in
a kicker to compete, I don't know if that sinks
the point one way or another. Right, I don't know
Justin Tucker like that. I mean, Harbond knows the strings
to pull, but from a play calling perspective, I mean,
it just it's got to change in absolutely in some
of these games. By the way, crazy stat here five

(09:02):
losses obviously for the Raisin Raven a combined point total
in those games of twenty two. The miskicks in those
games from Justin Tucker, those were worth twenty two points.
All right. More to come here on power rankings. In fact,
we were worried that the season was spiraling out of
control for the Houston Texans. What does a win do
for the perception of this team? The Dancers coming up next?

(09:30):
Back here on power rankings, Squads nine through sixteen, The
Charge are still a top ten team. One hundred and
eighty seven total yards in a win against the Falcons,
who we will talk about in just a moment. The
Broncos victorious on Monday Night Football. At eleven, it's the Commanders.
Nice to see Jayden Daniels get back into the win column.
Same for the Texans, who are at twelve. At thirteen,

(09:51):
a crazy overtime win for the Bucks against Carolina, who
deserve some flowers. I know there's some losses for this
Panther squad, but they're playing well. At fourteen, the Seahawks.
Leonard Williams the big Man touchdown that was the difference
in the game against his former squad, the Jets. At fifteen,
it's the Cardinals. Two straight losses after a four game
winning streak. That NFC West little dice you right now.

(10:12):
Because the Rams sit at number sixteen. Their offense came
alive against the Saints in the second half. All right,
number ten, I want to focus and get your take
on the Broncos. Bonex hadn't been turning the ball over
Sue picks in this game. I don't know if they
were necessarily his fall. There were some explosives in this game,
but are you concerned about the defense that had been
balling out and all of a sudden had some issues

(10:33):
against Famous Jamis.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, they came up with the big plays, right obviously,
the two pick sixes and the game sort of ceiling interception.
Nick Benito was great. He had a sack, a lot
of pressures and one of those pick sixes. But yeah,
the coverage, I mean, the secondary bus were at times glaring.
I will say that Jamis did make some great throws.
This was not one of them. Obviously he got baited
into both interceptions maybe, but yeah, I mean, look, that's

(10:59):
something you got to look for. And Jerry Jude going
into his old house and tearing him up the way
he did concern me. But you know, I will say too,
I mean bow Knicks made some poor decisions in this game.
I liked when he was playing within the confines of
Sean Payton's offense a little bit more, and you know,
taking those opportunities when they come like this pass right here.
But there was some risk involved too, so bo Nick's

(11:21):
got a little a little greedy at times, I thought.
On Monday night.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, by the way, Jerry Judy who you name dropped
two hundred and thirty five receiving yards, the most ever
in a revenge game by a wide receiver Beatto when
he matched up against the Niners. I think it was
two hundred and thirteen receiving yards. Point is Judy put
on an absolute show at eleven. It is the Commander's
get back in the win column. Here are they a
dangerous team in the NFC?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, you've been waiting for this kind of offensive breakout really,
you know, since before the Hail Mary game. But it
was great to see their run games start. I mean,
Brian Robinson, I think is such an important part of
what they do. You know, he was streaking into the
open several times. That helped out Daniels quite a bit.
It helped out Terry McLaurin. I mean, getting the ball
to Robinson and Terry McLaurin early in games is never

(12:08):
a bad thing in my opinion. The Commanders finally did that.
And look, you can say, Okay, it's just the Titans,
but Titans have been playing fairly competitive lately, and this
is a good defense. Statistically, they still remain in the
top ten even after giving up two hundred whatever yards
on the ground, So this is a good defense that
the Commanders had really a bounce back game against and
that's always good to see, even if the wins haven't

(12:29):
been there for Tennessee. So I think they're dangerous. They're back,
but you know, they still have some questions to answer.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Twenty three rushing touchdowns for the Commanders this season, second
in the NFL only behind Jalen Hurt, Saquon Barkley and
the Philadelphia Eagles. At thirteen, it's the Buccaneers. What an
exciting game down the stretch against Carolina. But I'm going
to take this thing big picture here, because they pull
even with the Falcons inside that division. Atlanta's still in
head because of the head to head that they have

(12:56):
with that squad, but because of some of the disarray
that we've seen, and I know the Bucks haven't been
playing great, but they battled some injuries. Generally speaking, is
the trending up for them to win the division?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, I mean they've obviously been so competitive in a
lot of these games. The two head to head losses
against Atlanta really really sting right now because that momentum
would be even stronger. But getting Mike Evans back into
the offense was a huge development. You know, even if
Baker wasn't great on Sunday, he had somebody could rely
on and they may have a breakout star here at
Bucky Irving who took I want to say, had thirteen

(13:30):
touches in fourth quarter and overtime. You know, this is
a guy who was averaging maybe thirteen a game for
a big stretch of the season. Kind of took over
that lead role for Rashad White. And give Mayfield credit.
Even on a night when he didn't have his best stuff,
he's still making things happen, living around, scrambling for first downs,
enough plays from the defense just enough, and then Baker
doing his thing along with the run game that it's

(13:51):
a close win, but a much need to win for Tampa.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Not for nothing. Man. You know, Baker Mayfield, He's slowly
become one of my favorite guys in the league to
go and watch. There's this moxie, this intensity confidence. You know,
they go down late in regular and there's like thirty
seconds I think they had at least one time out
in hand. I'm like, they're gonna get in a field
goal territory. Baker's gonna will it to happen, and he did,
and they go on to win in overtime. Taking a

(14:14):
look at the odds in the NFC West. This thing
not exactly how we drew it up before the season.
The Seahawks still the leaders of the pack. Arizona fouled
following them. Then it's the Rams in that third position
in the San Francisco forty nine ers, who will discuss
a little bit later the worst odds right now to
go and win this division. Let's look at team number

(14:35):
four team. It is the Seahawks. What do I make
of this team? I week to week here, I'm always
a little confused about the squad.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, and let's hope they don't have as adventurous a
special team's day next week. Is they did Sunday against
the Jets, against a better team, Maybe they can't come
back from their self inflicted mistakes, the fumbles, the muffs,
allowing a ninety nine yard touchdown, having an extra point blocked. Yes,
they made a couple of field goals too, and made
life tough for Aaron Rodgers. There put some pressure on

(15:05):
him a little bit. But you know, I do give
him credit for crawling back from a deficit like that.
But I just don't know, man, there's something about this
team that's kind of holding me back. Just a little bit.
Even with that golden opportunity in the NFC West.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
You know what it is in first place, but we've
seen some losses from them and some inconsistent inconsistency from
Genosmith with some big turnovers. So it scares you a
little bit. Charbonay though, if he runs like he did
against the Jets, and by the way, even being down
against Gangreen early in that game had me a little
bit worried about what this team really could be. But
if Sharbonay continues to run like this, he's an absolute force. Meanwhile,

(15:41):
some big name teams before the year that had Super
Bowl aspirations might be long gone. Is Eric willing to
end their postseason dreams today? Find out next Mike Cam
and Eric at Home with you back here on NFL
Power Rankings, Eric's teams seventeen through twenty four of the

(16:04):
Colts a big drive to get a win, sitting in
the seventeenth position at eighteen. Thanksgiving not kind to the
Miami Dolphins at nineteen, zero touchdowns, six interceptions in the
last three games for Kirk Cousins. That team is a reeling.
So are the San Francisco forty nine ers at twenty
at twenty one, it's the Cowboys first home win in
this season. Get it done against a divisional opponent in

(16:26):
the Giants on Thanksgiving. At twenty two, the Bengals tough
loss to Pittsburgh twenty three, Who is the Bears next
football coach? That might be the biggest question right now.
And at twenty four, Saints couldn't close the Los Angeles Rams.
Time for power moves up three spots. It is the
Indianapolis Colts. I want to get your thoughts on this team,

(16:47):
Eric should I, I don't know, give him some love
right now, like a team that's playing with a little
bit of confidence. Anthony Richardson, it feels like there's some
swag late in these games.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Absolutely, I mean I will say, did they get a
little bit of a bump from the teams ahead of
them last week? All losing? And yes, absolutely, that's one
way to power up. But when you've seen Anthony Richardson
kind of take a step forward and play the way
he has, especially laight in games, you know, with the
game on the line, when he threw that interception with
about five minutes to go down a touchdown, I thought, boy,
this isn't looking good. They're going to lose at foxbro.

(17:19):
He willed them back. They stopped him on defense a
couple times. That was impressive, but really it was Richardson.
His legs were a big part of the story on Sunday. Look,
he's flawed, he's still a fifty percent passer, but this
is a tough guy to defend. You know when he
makes the throws, he's a tough guy to tackle, tough
guy to bring down the backfield, and you know he
can power through some of those those attempts too, and

(17:41):
get off unusual looking passes like that little lob to
Taylor for the touchdown and back of the end zone
there to Alec Pearce. He's done a lot of interesting
things this year. Even if the development is still needed,
I'm taking my chances on him. I think he's got
an opportunity to kind of wiel the Colts into the
back end of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves,
but the Week fifteen match up against Denver, all of
a sudden, it has got my attention because of the
play of the Cold who once again move up three
spots in your power rankings at nineteen. It's the Falcons.
Should we be talking about Michael Pennix.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
I think you almost have to at this point. It
would have been crazy. Obviously, think back to the draft
and we said, what are they doing drafting Pennix? He's
not going to play this year? Well, hold that thought
just a minute. Obviously, we haven't seen a whole lot
of Pennix came in laid against Denver, had some throws.
We saw a ton of them in the preseason. There's
obviously hype about him. His former Zc's in the NFL,
so you could see how this would translate. He's got

(18:33):
the skills, the arm, talent, everything there is, and the
way Cousins is playing. Obviously Sunday wasn't just the first
bad game. Four interceptions, but he hasn't thrown a touchdown
in four games. Now. The turnovers are piling up. Some
of those passes are looking like frisbees out there, and
that's how you give up the game on Sunday. Essentially,
that one right there was the one that kind of
caught my eye a little bit too much of a

(18:55):
floater out there, and teams are just saying we're going
to jump those routes. I would rather have the chance
of getting beat deep because I know I can make
a play on those balls. Yeah, this is really a
problem for Atlanta. They were six and three, they were
loaded with this division. They were all setting ready to
go coast down the stretch to a playoff spot. Not
like that anymore. Man Tampa is breathing down their necks

(19:16):
and they've got to figure out what to do with
the quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, it's funny because if you're watching this show right
now as opposed to listening to it, I guess the
point still remains. Some of these throws, I mean, they're
like just wobbling it. Just I don't It makes me
think almost something's wrong with Kirk in terms of a
health situation. Meanwhile, two teams that I think we're on
the short list to win a Super Bowl this year,
I want to know if you're going to sink both

(19:39):
of them. I'm going to start at number twenty here
with the San Francisco forty nine ers. No Christian McCaffrey,
No Jordan Mason. Both those guys, well, McCaffrey obviously the
PCL injury, and Jordan Mason just got put on IR.
The season continues to tailspin in the wrong direction. Are
they out of the postseason? In your mind?

Speaker 3 (19:54):
They're nominally in it, right I think they have something
like a three to four percent chance. It would take
an inside straight. They're in the one division that's kind
of forgiving, if you will. The NFC West is so
tight right now. Everybody's kind of logged together. But Hurd,
he's hurt obviously. You know Ayyuk's out for the season.
Kittle's been playing banged up. You mentioned the running back injuries.
It extends throughout the roster. It's feeling more and more

(20:17):
in my mind, like the twenty twenty season, which has
been the one outlier year under Kyle Shanahan. Normally so
good in November and December, you know, able to go
in and battle teams like the Bills head to head
and even win occasionally. That's not the case for this team.
You can see McCaffrey wasn't right. He left the game.
He's probably done for the year, and with it go

(20:37):
the hopes of the forty nine ers, who I think
will be a title contender next year depending on what
happens with the roster. But this was a missed opportunity
I believe this season because of all the bad luck
that piled up.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, it really has. Bad luck is probably the best
way to describe it. With all of these injuries around
this squad. It's funny. A couple weeks ago on the show,
I said to Eric, I'm done loving up Cincinnati. They're done.
And then we did game day preview on Sunday mornings
on the NFL channel, and I thought they were going
to win, that they're going to win convincingly against the Steelers.
That did not happen. But there's not a lot of

(21:09):
games left here Bengals. Are they done? In your mind?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I think they're done. You know, Joe Burrow, they asked them.
He gave kind of a Jym mora like playoffs, Are
you kidding me? That's the last thing on my mind
right now. Burrow's been okay. I didn't say his play
is leveled off, but I feel like he's got this
burden on him to play as spectacularly as he possibly
can every single week. He even kind of talked about
it after the game because of what the defense is allowing. Now,

(21:34):
there are issues offensively they have to figure out, but
they're far less concerning about what's happened to lou Anaumo's unit.
We saw this trend in the wrong direction last season.
It is most certainly there now. They've had a handful
of decent performances on defense, but the vast majority have
been bad, regrettable, and it questions whether this team can
make a super Bowl in Burrow's time in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Which is just wild to think because we always talk
about needing the quarterback to get it done. They have
the quarterback, They got this offensive firepower. Yeah, got to
be such a concerted effort to get better defensively in
this year's draft and over the next couple of years,
even in free agency, just to try to make this
thing competitive. Just a couple of years removed from a
super Bowl. It is just wild to think. Meanwhile, teams

(22:17):
twenty five through thirty two. Here the Browns jamis is fun,
but not able to get it done. They sit at
number twenty five. Bryce Young the guy the rest of
the season. He's at twenty six in this Panther squad.
The Jets at twenty seven, the Titans twenty eight, The
Patriots are twenty nine, the Raiders checking in at thirty.
At thirty one, it is the New York Giants and

(22:37):
good news from a Jaguars perspective, Trevor Lawrence saying that
he's home after that vicious hit that he suffered, that
he's home and he is feeling better. Eric, Before we
get wrap up here, I got to tell you there's
something that's been bothering me for basically the thirty minutes
that we've been doing.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
The show.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Started off the program talking about perception. I just want
to get your take on this. I mentioned Minnesota, Sam Donald.
Are we not giving them enough love? Because the Sam
Donald factor? People just don't believe it. Doesn't this remind you, though,
of a couple of years ago when the Detroit Lions
they had Jared Goff. People are like, oh, ok, Jared,
can he really get it done? Doesn't it have? Like
we don't question if the Lions can go and win

(23:12):
a Super Bowl? Should we be having the same conversation
about Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
I mean, look, it's a fair question, right. I think
even brock perty faced this at one point. Certainly other
guys have. But once you kind of graduate to that,
most of the times, unless you get to that latter
stage of your career, like Aaron Rodgers, will start failing.
But yeah, there is a negative perception against him that
I think we have to sort of wean off of.
And you know it applies to multiple quarterbacks around this league.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
O Okay, the best man, Love working with you.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
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