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October 11, 2022 • 41 mins

The NFL Power Rankings podcast with Dan Hanzus and guest host Steve Wyche begins looking at Dan's top team in his power rankings. Why does Dan have the Buffalo Bills slotted over the undefeated Philadelphia Eagles? The Dallas Cowboys are riding a hot streak and Dan has them as his #10 team; the guys share how the Dallas Cowboys have won so many games without Dak Prescott. Later, Dan explains why he has the 2-3 Bengals ranked higher than the Cowboys and Steve answers if he's buying into the New York Giants. Dan and Steve also dive into what's happening with the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
NFL Power Rankings is a production of the NFL in
partnership with I Heart Radio. Hello and welcome to Power Rankings,
presented by Energizer. I'm Dan Hansas in the power chair
because Connie Fox Colleen Wolf a little under the weather.
But you go to the bullpen and you have a

(00:25):
gifted right arm and gifted mouth and brain with Steve Weiss.
So here we are. Steve, thank you for stepping in,
you know, and and first of all, hope Connie is
feeling better. Um. Execondly, you're gonna have to go behind
my ears and do the inspection just to make sure
I've got no uh no, rather to scuff up the ball.
You might have some hot back there to keep you

(00:46):
focused on the show, which is one of the weirdest
baseball things I ever learned for a sport I've watched
my whole life. Um, but this is not about baseball.
This is about the NFL Power League and the Power
Rankings one through thirty two. Uh. They went up on
the website on Tuesday morning. People are fired up. Stephen.
Before we get into we're gonna kind of break it

(01:06):
into four quadrants. Before we get into the first eight teams,
I want to say, like I'm more of a broad
thing as I'm putting together power rankings, who do I trust?
Right now? Who do you trust? Because I I can
name three teams and we're gonna get to some of them,
but I have trust issues with the league right now?
Are you in the same boat? Yeah, I mean, look,
there's a couple of teams, and again, those are the

(01:28):
three teams that are probably at the top that you
feel comfortable with. But then some of the teams, you know,
you're looking at their quarterback situations. You know, the Patriots
to play their hearts up, but right is Bailey's happy
gonna be the guy who can do it for a
long time? What's going on with the quarterback situation in Miami?
I mean, so it's gonna be interesting to see. You
know when you when you look at your rankings, how
much maybe you factored that into it, because a lot

(01:51):
of times, you know, when you say, well, this team
might have a better record, but if they met head
to head, this team is better. Well, I kind of
like somebole some of the ways you looked at it.
We're gonna have some good conversations. But the trust, I mean,
there there's a certain team we're gonna get to that
played on Monday night. That is just the the the
Kings of sprinting into a parked car that they just

(02:15):
can't get it out of their own way. That should
be close to close to undefeated. But you know, continue
to go and you bite that rear bump. And you
have a new title here at the company, NFL Senior
correspond What is it? What does mean? It's it's it's
chief reporter, not chiefs not chief reporter, chief reporter, very confusing,
but chief reporters. So you have responsibility and you're guiding

(02:38):
conscience of the newsrooms. I've said many times, but now
you understand the cross that I bear. I've done. I've
done these rankings because again sometimes it's like, okay, this
team's got a better record, but if these teams met
head to head, right, you know, the team with the
lesser record would smoke them. So but again, the quarterback situation,
the injury situation, My god, the forts are back. You
know where the half the teams on? I r again, No,

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I don't know what to do with them, but all right,
I'm here with the chief correspondence. So let's get to
number one through eight. Right, let's start right where we're
at the top here, and I put a new team
at number one, the Buffalo Bills, followed by the Eagles,
Chiefs at three, Niners for Ravens, five, Bucks, six, Vikings seven,

(03:19):
Packers eight. And yes, I do have trust issues about
most of these teams, but I don't have any trust
issues about the Bills. So let's start there, Steve, I
haven't had a chance to check my mentions yet. Um,
it's still early on the West coast, but I'm sure
Eagles fans are not happy. But this is the thing, Steve.
I couldn't do it. I couldn't in good conscience sit

(03:41):
in front of my laptop on Monday and say the
Bills aren't the best team in football. And and it's
not just because they pants the Steelers. It's because what
they've been doing all season long. To the Rams in
Week one, to the Titans in Week two. Uh, they
had to come back when on the Ravens in Week four. Yes,
a bump in the road against the Dolphins in weird, hot,
humid conditions came down to the wire. But then again,

(04:05):
the Steelers, they're just the best. They're the best team.
So I had to put them at number one. But
but here's where I'll say, you know, to push back
a little bit, what what did the Eagles do to
make you think that they're not? Again, when it comes
to style points, when the Bills win, they win. I mean,
their defense dominates, their offense, take to lead, they look clean.
But what did the Eagles do? Okay, they had a
tough game at Arizona, but they showed that they have

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They have shown they can win with a big play,
that they can grind it out on the ground, that
they can take the ball away, they can come up
with defensive stops like they have shown, they can win
in every style possible. And again, if these two teams
met head to head, are you certain that Buffalo gets
the dub here? Again, that that's the question. But if

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if you're asking me that question on a neutral field, yes,
I think the Bills are the best team in football
right now and the Eagles, the point you're making is
absolutely on point because they've done it all. They've won,
they've answered the bells in different ways. They've won in
to shootout, they've blown a team off the field, They've
rallied from multiple scores down. They want a close one
on Sunday in a hostile environment in Arizona. So it

(05:11):
wasn't easy, Steve. But again, the difference between one and two,
it's very tight. But I just think the Bills get
the edge. I get it, though. Well you're saying, basically,
is Dan, you're an idiot. This is just I know, no,
I mean, it's it's not disrespectful. I'm just saying, you
say the Bills. He didn't say, no, you're not an idiot, Dan.
Now he just said no, you're not disrespectful. I'll know that. No,
but just but just to take away, just to take

(05:35):
away from the Eagles when they did it again and
they won in a in a different way this time. Again,
I get what you're saying. It would be hard for
me to say that Bills aren't the best team. But
when I look at the unbeaten record and the team
that right now looks like the best team in the NFC,
I don't know if I would have demoted them, so

(05:56):
to speak, it would have been it's been a one
A one B type. So are you on the camp?
And I've been this guy before, but as my power
rankings era has moved on, I've shifted a little bit.
My philosophy. The Eagles should be number one until they lose. Correct, correct,
until they lose, until they lose. I disagree, and I respect. Um.
Let's let's check in with the number three team and

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the final team I trust, like, wholeheartedly trust. It's the
Kansas City Chiefs. They hold at number three, four and one. Um,
and I have to say, I can't. I can't say
Steve that I was totally on board with the Raiders
don't cover Kelsey strategy at the goal line of My god,
isn't it an amazing like him and Mark Andrews. Look,
they're that's just a late coverage right there. Ran a

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package is tough to cover. But there was one touchdown.
I forget he ran in front of three guys. It
was the fourth one. I think. It was just like
what are we doing here? For three? It was like
no where seven is no where eight? Seven is right?
And they just couldn't get it. Look, the candid the
Chiefs are are absolutely right. Look they were, they were
down seventeen nothing. The Raiders came out and popped him

(07:02):
and they and they went here here it is right here,
like oh hey, come on them, here but they came
back and they played physical. I mean, I thought that
the big plays by Valdesc Gantling and Jet McKinnon and
some of those guys sparked some of the place and
they got the Raiders on their heels again. And the
Raiders had a little doubt, you know, they came back. Um,

(07:24):
I don't really like Andy Reid going for two when
he did it, but I just the way now that
the Chiefs are playing, they diversified their offense. Their defense
still has some things to work through, right, but they've
played a brutal schedule to this point, giving up a
lot of points to this point. But again, Kelsey got
the touchdowns. But when you get Jet McKinnon, Edward Hilaire Judson,

(07:44):
Miss Schuster, Valdisc Gantling, hardmen, they look very very very good.
Got some issues on the offensive line a little bit,
but um, three is three is a perfect spot for them.
You're right there with your your your trust issues are
are are good right here, Dan, and they have thank you,
and they have Tyreek Hill out the door. And yet
this offense still feels like when it starts cooking where

(08:08):
it gets warmed up. It is a freight train rolling
downhill and nobody could deal with. That's why, especially in
the NFL today, Stephen, you've been covering the league for
years and years seventeen, nothing leads not what it used
to say, especially against Mahomes and read Well. And that's
the thing. Okay, Patrick Mahomes got it going and it once.
Once they got rolling, they're kind of at the end
of the of the first half right again, Valdis scantling

(08:30):
as a couple of big catches, Mahomes moving around a
little bit. They're like, okay, let's go. So then they
go in the halftime, they get the ball, come out
of halftime, they come right back down boom. I mean,
Holmes is just that guy. That's why when we came
into the season, everybody was like, oh, you know, the
Broncos got rouss, the Charger's got all this, you know,
and you still have to say to yourself, yeah, but

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the Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes and they've got Andy Reid.
To me, that keeps them on top until the Chargers
don't charge her, you know, until Brandon's Daley decides to
actually maybe punt or you know, kick it all that
by the way, Oh my god, from home two scoops,
what are we doing? Um? And finally in the in

(09:11):
the last spot of the first quadrant, we have the
Green Bay Packers, a team that drops four spots, and UM,
I don't know what it is here, Steve, because on paper,
the Packers look like they should have a great defense,
and yet we see it now throughout this season when
they need a big stop, they don't get it, and
they're not getting against a third string quarterback in New

(09:34):
for New England. In your building, you don't get stops.
And then this week happens Sae Kwan Bartley's missing swaths
of the second half. They're Giants are middling offense at best.
You can't get a stop there, and this time Aaron
Rodger's gonna bail you out. It's you know, it's amazing
when you look at all this defensive talent. You know,
Rare Shawn Gary's is turning into a superstar. But the

(09:56):
points you make are are so valid. I mean, I
almost gotta stop, Steve, almost think eight is too high.
I mean, I know the record is what it is,
but it I don't like some of the mistakes they're
they're making. Um, they to me, they still don't have
a true offensive footprint there. They're counting on twelve to
just improvise and make things happen. As you said, he
couldn't bail them out this time. Um. But defensively to

(10:18):
some of the mistakes, they're making some of the big
play I mean they made the giant wide receivers who
have struggled all season long, you know, look like the
fun Bunch or something. Those guys are out there making
plays and it's like when was I mean Daniel Jones
made the Pro Bowl in that game? And so it's like,
what is going on here? You have talent galore on

(10:38):
this defense. How come they are not making plays? And
they have to make play and and this I don't
think this is on Aaron Rodgers in the offense. But
also this is a team that's searching where the Chiefs
moved right along post Tirade Hill. You know, Rogers finished
over six on deep attempts of at least twenty yards
in this game on Sunday. Um, they nearly hit one
two dobbs the week before, but they didn't. And they're

(11:01):
just this offense. You do sense that that Adam's size
hole is missing when they need a big play they're
not able to get it to to stop the momentum
building on the other side. That's a part of this
too for me. So maybe I do have them a
little too high, but that almost speaks more to how
the middle of this league is. I mean, it's so
hard to figure out who's in the back end of

(11:21):
the top ten because nobody's really earned it. So the
Packers get some points from me and and and some
respect points, but you could absolutely make a case they
should be further down because because here's my question, and
this is where I think the quarterback conundrum factors into
your thinking. Okay, if I'm reading your mind, we're here.
I would have the Cowboys there, Okay, I mean and
I and I just don't know if if you're you know,

(11:44):
is this something where you're just like a Cooper Rush.
This has all smoking mirrors right now with the defense
that you know, even though they're player four and one,
they're playing exceptional quad complimentary football. You just can't do
it because it's Cooper Rush and not Aaron Rodgers. Am
I there with you? Dan? No, You're You're in the ballpark.
Let's look at nine through sixteen. Now, as we moved
to the second quadrant. I got Cincinnati at nine, coming

(12:05):
off the loss at two and three. I guess I
just still believe in them. Uh the Cowboys at ten. Uh,
Titans eleven up one spot, Chargers up two spots to twelve,
and up six spots to thirteen, Raiders up one to fourteen,
Rams dipping for to fifteen, and the Saints up two
spots to sixteen. So yeah, the Cowboys. I love Mia Culpa.

(12:32):
I said it this morning and a good morning football.
I'm not gonna hide from it, but nobody else should either.
Like I buried them after week one. I put him
in the mid twenties of the power rankings. I said,
if they get out of five weeks without dak at
two and three, it should be considered a huge win. Uh.
And and meanwhile, they've won every game. Um, maybe the
reason why they're not higher than ten, why they're not

(12:54):
ahead of the Packers, is yes, I think the defense
is carrying a little too much of the weight and
I don't quite see the balance. And if they get
punched in the mouth. Um, would a Cooper rush let
off offense be able to uh lift them? I'm not
there yet. And I think he got away with some
bad throws in week four. Uh Rush, I think I
threw for about a hundred and twenty yards in Week five.

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So I think they're vulnerable on offense until Dak returns.
But I love the stat that's that they've given up
exactly one touchdown in each of the five weeks and
each of the five games. It's the real deal. And
you set it on around the NFL before the season started, Steve,
when we did um around the NFC and forty eight
minutes exactly that this defense wasn't good, it's great, and
that's certainly what's happened here. Well, I mean, look, you

(13:36):
know when we talk a lot about Michael Parsons, but
here's here's the brilliant of dan Quinn and what they've
done with their personnel in Dallas on defense. Michael Parsons
unicorn right, could play inside, outside, can do a lot
of things them. Donovan Wilson a safety right, he's playing free,
he's playing strong, he's playing a spy in the middle,
and Taron Curse's doing the same thing. So now they've
got three queens on a chessboard on their defense, and

(13:58):
this is how they're really making it hard for opposing
quarterbacks on who the key who to read and if
you're some team with a weakness on their offensive line,
it's over those guys up front with with Tank Lawrence
and Micah Parsons. You know, so those d tackles, they're
really aggressive. So here here a little question. So you

(14:18):
talked about Okay, here's Cooper rush Hunter ten yards five yards.
Isn't that how Jimmy Garoppolo the Niners got to the
Super Bowl? It's fair. I mean, you know, when you
when I do bury them after the back injury, they
have a lot of ground to make up. So I
think they've gone to ten in four weeks. But you're right,

(14:40):
and this is that consolation. Here's a great test. Here
we go. Here we go because if they if they
go on Sunday night against Philly, if they win that game,
I will be on this show with Colleen next week. Um,
unless you Wally Pip Colleen, and it's just a Dan
and Steve joint going forward. And I'll say, man, they
should have been at in the top five before that game,

(15:01):
but now here they are in the top three. But
maybe it's a bit of a for Dan to show
me game on Sunday Night for the Cowboys that you
could take out a big time team, and you will
because you know why, after they win that game, they're
gonna put Dak Prescott in the next week and you'll
be okay, like everything could be settled for it right right?
How about the Bengals at nine? So I have him ahead?

(15:22):
Is us? I got him drying spots. I kind of
liked a lot of what I saw on Sunday Night.
They get beat by Tucker hitting a fifty eight yarder
and then hitting one at the gun to win it. Um.
But there was something with Burrow, who again without Tee Higgins,
that took away the best parts of their offense and

(15:42):
their ability to attack down field. I just started showed
that they do have that metal in them to to
rise up when it counts, to go on that long
drive to take the lead late. It didn't work out
for them and I and I understand if you're gonna
come back with me and say this is too generous,
But I still believe the Bengals is one of the
top teams in the a f C. So I'm not
willing to bail at this point. And I get that

(16:03):
because you know, I'm bullish on the Bengals to what
disappointed me because they should have won this game if
not for their head coach slash play caller driving all
the way downfield with a beautiful mix of power runs,
short passed with great catching runs, getting down close to
the goal line, and then all of a sudden playing
Candy Land with the play called Okay, let's go wide,

(16:24):
let's do this, let's try this trick play on fourth down.
I mean, dude, you drove the joke, you drove the
Tonka dump truck down there, you play power football against
this right, and then all of a sudden you get cute.
Let's get cute. You know, they should have won that
ball game, you know, not saying that that would have
been the end all, but that would have put the
Ravens in a situation where Okay, I think I think

(16:47):
the Bengals go up right there. Um, I just I
think there are there are a football team that's still
finding itself and they're still on the come up. I
think they need to give us more Joe Mixon. I mean,
when he started rolling this offense, that was the first
time that happened all the year. But they decided to
like kind of commit to him, even if it was

(17:08):
in the short passing game, and to both running backs.
To p Ryan was fantastic as well. Continue to mix
those guys in there and balance the offense amore. It's
not just the big shots. I think they're a team
that again is gonna find itself as it goes along.
You know. For the rankings again, I think both of
our projected feeling about this team, you can look at

(17:31):
it and say this is too high again ahead of
ahead of the you know, the Cowboys and Giants right
now that you can say, but again, that's the feeling
like if those two teams met head to head of
the Giants played the Bengals head the head of the
Cowboys with the Bengals head the head, you might want
to see the Bank was probably have a better team.
There's some projection in here as well, because um, we

(17:53):
haven't seen it yet this year. But you know, I
kind of waiting for Jamaar Chase to take over games
and win games single handedly the way he was doing
in December last year. In January. That hasn't happened yet either,
So maybe once you know, Higgins hopefully gets healthy and
mixing builds on this and then you unlock Chase. But
I'm a little surprised he's not. He's not like a
Justin Jefferson type where it doesn't matter what else is

(18:15):
going on off the offense. I'm gonna get mine. That
hasn't been the case, but Sincin had his offense. But
but they have again I said they haven't found their identity.
I mean with Justin Jefferson, it is clear the Vikings
are gonna find ways to scheme him open and do
things the same way the Ram scheme open Cooper Cup. Right,
They're not doing that so much to Cincinnati because they
have so many weapons and they're still trying to figure
stuff out. I mean, that offensive line is not what

(18:37):
we thought it's gonna be. Is it a talent issue?
Is it a scheme issue. They've got to figure that
part out first, because I mean, Burrow is not getting
sacked as much, but he saw Lel Collins gonna get
shoot up by Zach Taylor on that little cute Shouble
play that you know that they try to copy from
the Chief that just did not work. And you mentioned

(19:11):
the Giants, Steve, do you want to go to the
twilight zone? Of the power rankings. Let's go the twilight
zone of the power rankings. Uh, it should be sponsored,
it's not. Let's work on that, uh, Shaun Kelly behind
the glass and get some money in our pockets. Because
the twilight zone is the thirteen spot. It's the team
I don't know what to do with. Okay, they are
a team that you can make a case should be

(19:32):
in the top ten. Some could make a case they
could be in the back end of the teens. Um.
I feel good about having the Giants at four and
one at thirteen, but I also I also understand the
doubters out there who might say, this is a classic
situation where team gets out to a fast start. Check

(19:52):
back within January when there's seven and ten. You're buying
in on the Giants or no, I'm buying it on
exactly what you said. I am still very much of
I love how they're putting it together. This music to
get you into the the music. This is almost I
wish somebody would have made the White's theme song with
this be behind it, a little reggae guitar through it.

(20:12):
Don't tempt me. There you go. But you know, look,
the one thing I do like about the Brian Dayball
has got them believing right, you know you saw that game.
At least get one right here. He has got them
believing that they're a good football team. You know how
the New York media is though, and it's a national
thing too. They were saying the same stuff about Joe
Judge two years ago. I know, it's different, different, it's different.

(20:34):
It's different to say that sometimes I get ahead of
our skis a little bit in the New York and
I'm in New York. But I mean, look at how
they're playing. I mean, they're physical, You're seeing both sides
of the ball. You know they're they're they're playing well.
I still want to see it for a little bit more,
like I'm just not there yet, Like I'm there with
the Eagles and it's there to put them in this spot.

(20:57):
You've done what they've done and you got them a
plus six. I mean, are they are they the biggest riser? Yeah,
there's another New York team that has made a big
up this week out of the nether world as as
they should. As they should. We'll get to that and
one more thing before we take a break here, Steve,
I got the Raiders hanging tough one in four and

(21:17):
yet I got him at number four teen because I believe.
I believe that they will win at some point. It
just hasn't really happened yet this season. That was a
tough one against the Chiefs. I mean the tough one
against every team, and they've been one possession games every game.
I was in a game in Tennessee where the Titans
are just crushing them in the first half. They come out,
they put it together in the second half, and had

(21:38):
they made a two point conversion at the end of
the game, it's going overtime. But that's their whole season, right,
you know, they come down. We're gonna talk to you
so much about Chris Jones roughing the quarterback penalty is
the big penalty. No, the big penalty is when um
coots Malcolm Coots on the defensive hold on the missfield goal.

(21:59):
How is that a thing? How is he playing the game? Steve?
How does that happen? You are coached to move the
guys to some audience. I mean, it's never called. So
they call it on miss field goal. Four plays later
the chief going score touchdown and that's kind of difference.
Oh yeah, Well, Josh m. Janiels could have tied it up. Um,
you know if he kicks the extra point with like

(22:20):
one of the best kickers to model NFL. Yeah, I don't.
I mean, is so cute with this stuff? Yeah, that
the two point love? I mean I get, Hey, we
got momentum, we got this and that. Hey, you know,
the Chiefs are pretty good team. And you know, I
I get. And if that's your play called Josh Jacobs
is rolling but on a condensed field, I don't know,
but it's it's just these things you the Raiders do

(22:41):
every week. They are so close, so close, so close,
but not close in I know, And that that game
specifically was really and you saw it boil over at
the unfortunate incident with Davante Adams show and the cameraman down.
But Jacobs comes up what six inches short, maybe closer
to taking the lead with four seven to play. Davante
Adams on that ensuing possession after they get they get

(23:03):
the stop and good on them for it. In the
stop has the ball in field goal range with an
automatic kicker ready to go win the game, and a
little bobble. It was the right call and review, but
so painful and then a bad route where Renfro and
Adams collide and the game it's just like, you can't
make it up. I don't know if I put it
so much on coaching. Like Zach Taylor. We can talk
about Cincinnati, whether he's helping or hurting McDaniels. That just

(23:26):
seems to be a team. It's a little bit snake
bid right now, and their schedule softens up. That's the
thing I'm buying. I'm holding on the Raiders more than
buying in or buying out because I think in a
very milk toast a FC right now, they have it
in them to make a rise and make me look
good or make me look terrible. Next the next six games,
they seriously should go five and one, you know, if

(23:49):
not sick, so they could be right in the mix
at the end of that stretch. All right, So we're
just we're about halfway through here now in the power rankings.
We're gonna take a break, and when we return, we
dig into the back end where there are some intriguing
teams and some depressing teams. We'll be right back, all right,

(24:23):
Welcome back this time now for Power Moves presented by
Energizer and here we go the biggest Week six jumps.
We've got the Jets. My Jets up nine spots UH
to seventeen. You have the Giants as we discussed, up
six to thirteen, the Pats up four spots UH and
Dallas of three spots to number ten. So let's start

(24:46):
with my Jets, Steve. You know we've been working together
a long time now, Steve, as long as I've been here. Basically,
the Jets been one of the worst teams in the league.
There's no way to sugarcoat it. There was the fith
magic year and fifteen even that went sideways at the end.
Um So I try to be objective as possible U
with with this our rankings exercise. Am I a little

(25:06):
too excited to get the Jets up to seventeen based
off these three wins in the first You know they're
they're playing very good football right now, Zach Wilson's come back.
The offense has got a little bit of an identity.
The defense is playing well, and Robert Sala has got receipts.
He's got receipts. But look the way this defensive front
is starting to play Dan again. The way the offense

(25:27):
is functioning. Bruce Hall kind of came into his own
a little bit this week. I like the way they're playing.
They are believing. We talked about how the Giants are believing,
the Jets are believing, and that look that is that
is a very healthy drug belief because talent is pretty
much equal across the board with most of the teams

(25:48):
in the NFL. And now you're starting to understand why
you're doing things and what can be the result. There
is something interesting going on here with this draft class,
and there was a lot of hype and talk about
it when it happened that Joe Douglas had leveraged all
these draft assets into potential immediate impact guys. And that's
what's happening here. I love this quote. Sauce Gardner his

(26:09):
immediately stepped up a big time cornerback. Uh and Garrett
Wilson is a hit the ground, running playmaker at wide receiver.
And then you have Braece Hall, who they moved up
to grab in the second round. And I love this quote. UM.
At some point during the Sunday's game against the Dolphins, Hall,
Gardner and Wilson looked at each other and laughed. This

(26:31):
is from the Associated Press. We were just talking about
it during the game, like, bro, we're so good. What
that is This that's a team that's starting to believe
in itself. And you could say, and I know Dolphins
fans will say it, we were playing our third string
quarterback toront Armstead went out, we were on the road
in a bad situation. And that's all true, but that
that is independent from a Jets team that knows nothing

(26:54):
but losing for years. Having these new guys Like I
remember at the draft in Vegas interviewing Sauce Gardener, uh,
you know, twenty minutes after he selected, and as like
as the Jets guy like, oh, you know, the Jets
have had a lot of losing, He's like, I don't
care about that because that had nothing to do with
me or any of the guys that are coming in.
And you feel that now that these guys they're not
tied to the losing like the fans are. They're young

(27:16):
and hungry and maybe even younger Rahee Morris style well,
and keep in mind Robert sal and Michael Floor the Floor,
the offensive coordinator. They came from a Niners team that
went through this. When they started with the Niners, back
in the day when Shanahan took over, the Niners were terrible.
They were coming off that great Jim Tom Seula Chip
Kelly run right, and so they were horrible. They didn't
have the personnel. Took some years to build a personnel,

(27:36):
took some years to develop that talent, and got took
some years for those guys to believe. I mean the
Jets by name me get ahead of the curve and
termed of that belief factor. So you have these young
guys who are playing the good in the quarterback situation
is still gonna continue to get better. We still got
to see more from Zack Wilson, but he looks like
the real guy. And so if they nail that, that

(27:56):
solves a lot of their problems. I mean, they haven't
had a playoff quarterback really since Mark Sanchez. And so
I mean, if Wilson turns out to be a player,
look out correct, look out correct. I get too excited
to see and and and I also think that la
Floor and sal are starting to kind of figure out
who they are as coaches as well. So to see
this learning curve. Dan receipts and we talked about the Packers,

(28:20):
who are number eight in the power ringings but can't
seem to get a stop on defense. The Jets go
to Lambeau in Week five, and if the Packers aren't ready,
that offense is going to score points and it's gonna
be an interesting situation. Uh in Green Bay. Let's move, No,
let's move. Check out the rest of seventeen through twenty four.
We talked about the Jets. Let's talk about the here

(28:41):
it is Jets seventeen, Dolphins eighteen down, eight spots. Uh,
they got all sorts of issues at quarterback and that
explains that situation. Cardinals nineteen down to Browns, Patriots, Falcons, Broncos,
Seattle round out. So let's talk to Browns a little
bit here, Steve, because there that's a frustrating team. Then

(29:04):
the Raiders, they they have the top spot in terms
of this this season is annoying at one and four,
playing all these close games. But the Browns, and you
hate to say this because this is also annoying. Oh
they could be five and oh, but Steve, they could
be five and oh, and yet here they are two
and three and in the middle of the pack. Last
week the Ravens lost, you know when they blew it

(29:25):
their defensive issues, they're just they're they're just now it's
it's no longer a blip. I mean, you come up here,
it's a tire fire. You play, you play the worst
rushing team in the NFL and they hit you for
almost three hundred on the ground. What is that? I
don't know. I mean you play in a division that
is a rushing division for the most part, right then,

(29:45):
clowney back. You expect better results, but it's not happening
getting gashed and then you know this is after you know,
you're letting all these balls go over your head. Uh
for communication on the back end, they are a frustrating team. Offensively,
they are playing good football. I mean Kobe percent had
to pick right, he had he had the he had
the bad lay pick. But they're playing good football there.

(30:05):
That's a team, like you said, you just want to
bang your head. But you know, probably in their big
picture of things, they're staying afloat just enough. This is
kind of the pattern. They got to get back on
the plus side and the wind laws column. So when
DeShawn Watson comes back in week eleven, um, it's week eleven,
a week two, I'm sorry when we come back leave.
I think whenever he comes back that they will be

(30:30):
in position to possibly make a run. And the division
continues to set itself up for him to possibly come
in to make it or even just get in the
door of the playoffs. And and then if Watson can
build a no matter of your opinion of that situation,
he's gonna make that team a lot better. Joe Woods
is the defensive coordinator over there. I would keep your
head on a swivel, Joe, because if they need to
make a change to jump start the team and might

(30:51):
be at DC UM. All right, let's move on. Let's
talk about the Broncos. Let's talk about talk Steve. Let's
talk about the Bronco. Let's talk about I than games
and maybe a blind spot you could call it, maybe
for the power rankings. For me, when a team really

(31:11):
either stinks out the joint in prime time or delivers
a dominating performance in prime time, I am susceptible to
a little extra drop or a little extra jump. It's
just who I am. I like football unto the lights
with when you when everyone's watching and the Bronco is
playing one of the worst prime time games on offense,
that you'll ever see on Thursday against the cults. I'm
just out right now, tell me I'm wrong, telling me

(31:33):
I'm right. Now, you're right, And look the only reason,
and I'm looking at your list, I think the only
reason why they're not lower is just because the teams
behind them are just like almost non competitive for the
most part. I mean, there's some teams here that you
can give some some hope to, but they're a mess
right now. I mean we can sit here and say, oh,
you know, they're they're they're taking some time to get
the offense together. No, they are. You know now they've

(31:55):
got their best offensive lineman, Garrett Bowls is out for
the season. Russ just can't seem to figure out what's
going on offensively. Maybe it's just him and Nathaniel Hackett
not getting it together, but just some things that you're hearing.
I mean, you know, Russ having his own office in
the building like he's a coach and spending time there
with his entourage as opposed to some of these younger
guys in the locker room who he was supposed to

(32:17):
be building all this chemistry with, like some of the
stuff like that. That's not healthy. It is not healthy. Um,
and there's new ownership there. I mean, I'm sure there
are some assistant coaches and some people in that building
whose heads on a swivel like this could go south
real quick for all of us in here, right up
to the big chair Hackett. They didn't hire Hackett, they

(32:37):
didn't hire Hackey, and you could go right up to him.
They're getting rid of Russ because they're too commute to
it financially. But and that just excused the power dynamic anymore,
even more potentially because Hacket is a smart guy. He
didn't get to this job by accident. He knows he
needs to make things work with Russ uh to keep
him happy because Russ isn't going anywhere. But so far
it has not worked out. And then there's the not

(32:59):
so small issue a Steve that after that game on
Friday morning, he's getting an injection nearest shoulder Russell Wilson,
so he's not physically right either. On top of everything else,
there's just a lot of bad vibes. It's there's a
lot of bad mojo. There's a lot of badmo with
the Chiefs playing the way that they're playing, Um, it's
gonna be tough to catch up. They're just lucky that

(33:19):
the a f C West is in this dynamic as
we thought it was gonna be. Through thirty two, we
got the Jags down five spots to twenty five. That's annoying.
Let's get to that in a second. Lions down two spots.
That's annoying. Let's also hit that UH Steelers hold at
twenty seven. Colts despite the win, I wasn't buying in
at all, they hold at twenty eight, Bears up one

(33:41):
to twenty nine, the Justin fields doing something. Finally, they're
UH Commanders down one to thirty. They're a tough watch.
The Texans get out of the seller for the first
time in a couple of weeks by getting into the
wind column, and the Panthers drop to the final spot.
And we're gonna get to their situation in a second.
But let's start with the Jags. Steve uh they were
the team in the beginning of the season when we

(34:04):
kind and I were talking about, oh, who's the Bengals
this year? Because infamously um I had Cincinnati about twenty
nine or so at the beginning of last season. They
end up playing at so far in February. Who could
be the team that shocks people and makes a run
into the class I said, the Jacks. It's all there
and yet, and I don't want to make this a
total referendum on the quarterback. They're not making that leap,

(34:25):
especially in the last two weeks, and Lawrence does have
a lot to do with it. Yeah, I mean, he's
turning the ball over and you know, they've they've got
to figure that. I'm I'm not completely out on them
because they've got a ton of talent, but he is
making some bad mistakes. Some defenses are finding some things,
some tendencies um and and making him second guests double

(34:47):
clutch a little bit. But the Jacks, I mean, look
at that, Look at the division. I mean, the Titans
are starting to, you know, find a little traction, but
they still have an opportunity to Trevor. Lawrence has got
to settle down. He's got to kind of Doug Peterson's
got to get him to settle down a little bit.
Uh to trust his players a little bit like he
was earlier in the season. Because defensively, they're gonna be

(35:07):
able to do some things. You have them in the
right spot. I mean, they've earned that that number twenty
five power ranking, but you know they're they're gonna be
better as the season goes along. But these last two
weeks they have just they've looked like the Jaguars that
we're used to seeing. Do you, I mean, entering the league,
did you see Lawrence is that type of guy who
could be a star And has anything changed for you

(35:28):
based on what we've seen in a year on the quarter? No,
I mean last year is a re shirt. You can't.
I absolutely thought he was gonna be a star. Still
think he's gonna be a star. People I talk to
coaches think he's going to be a star. He's just
going through it right now. Doug Peterson, we'll get him right, Okay,
that d C they have down there, We'll get that defense, right,
Mike Caldwell. So again, this is just kind of the
growing pains he's having to go through. This is his

(35:50):
rookie year, so to speak. So I still think he's
gonna be really good. I think the Jaguars are gonna
end up a lot higher on this list by the
end of the season. And then there's the Lions right
behind him at twenty six, and that this is just
kind of a bummer because I think we all want
the Lions to be fun. We all want to look
forward to like a cool Thanksgiving game for instance. Uh,
that would be nice between two quality teams, and yet

(36:11):
it's not there. They have the best offense in the
league statistically through the first four weeks. Then they go
up to New England and get shut out, shut out
and taken apart. So then and you take that out
of it, and you know their defense has all sorts
of issues that you have to be concerned about this team.
You have to be concerned. I mean because now you know,
ownership will probably be patient with Dan Campbell. But now
is usually when that that that ownership group up there

(36:33):
starts looking at other candidates outside, you know, the building,
because they're just not putting it together. Now this is
let's just say this at the operation game and they
get it back. That's fine. Still, defensively, they are a
hot mess um on what they're doing. And they've got
players on defense. I mean, that's what's got to be frustrating.
They have got some talented players on defense. They've got

(36:53):
to figure out what the heck they're doing right, And
I love Aaron Glenn. I think he's He's a guy
you saw in Hard Knocks. He's a great community secondary coach,
is a great coach, coaching staff. You there, easy to
root for, and yet you understand that there are questions
behind the scenes right now, like why isn't this working?
Why aren't we taking the leap that we all expected? Uh,
grit and grit alone does not get the job done, unfortunately,

(37:17):
and and Campbell said after the game on Sunday, to me,
this is about as bad as it gets. I believe
we hit rock bottom. So now the only place to
go is back up. Okay, that's the curse. Be careful
that that's a curse, Dan, because the one thing I
have found in life and especially in the business that
we do, it can always get worse. Man, be careful there, Dan.

(37:39):
It is week five. Uh. Finally, let's talk about the
number thirty two team, which usually we kind of steer
clear of because there are all sorts of issues, and
certainly that is the case with the Panthers right now.
But they were in the news this week because they
fired Matt Rule and eleven and twenty seven and two
plus seasons they all forty million bucks, some of that

(37:59):
is offset when he when inevitably he's coaching some big
twelve team and they're the top twelve team in UH
next fall. But whatever rules future, we don't have to
worry about him. But the Panther's future you should worry
about because what are they? Where are they right now?
Is an organization? In your mind? This is bad because
they couldn't fix their quarter right. They tried all the

(38:20):
band aid quarterback options. They traded away picks to get
Sam Donald. That didn't work. So now are they in
the situation where they just finish out the season, get
the number one pick, and go quarterback. I think that's
the route everyone's probably hoping they take. Let's just tear
this whole thing down at the trade deadline. Let's fire
sale some players. You've got a good young defensive nucleus.

(38:40):
If you gotta get rid of Christian McCaffrey, maybe you
trade him to contender. Here's some of those reports out there. Yeah,
what Buffalo was calling about it. So we'll we'll, we'll see.
I think they'll wait and try and get see if
there's some leverage to play there. But I've just covered
too many teams where this has happened, right, And so
now all the assistant coaches are calling their agents like,
all right, you know, hey, we're gonna play this out.

(39:02):
We're gonna be professionals. We've gotta have a good face
to the lot room. Um, but we're gone. Steve Wilkes,
wonderful human being, is gonna take over. He's gonna coaches
hard out. But we know that they're they're not gonna
give him a shot. You know, interim coaches just don't
get held over. Um. And so I think this is
gonna be bad. And here's something that you know, really

(39:22):
hasn't been mentioned that with his fire, and it has
to be taken into account. You don't think David Tepper,
the only other Carolina Panthers, is looking at what's happening
in Atlanta and saying, we have more talent than the Falcons.
And there in every game that coaching staff is coaching
those guys up, they are making those guys, they're putting

(39:42):
them in position to almost win, and we're getting smoked
week after week. We can't figure it out. I think
that had a little something to do with as well,
you know, including the far part of his team just
seemed to really just kind of lay down at the
end of that Niner scan. Yeah, and he said that,
he came out and said there was not enough competitiveness

(40:02):
on the field and there are too many, too much,
too much read in the crowd, referring to to the
forty Niners fans. So yeah, they're going through right now,
but maybe brighter days are ahead. Steve, you've said it all.
Thank you the list, good job, thank you buddy, Thank
you for jumping in. Colleen will be back with me

(40:23):
next week. Uh, make sure you check out the Power
Rankings NFL dot com slash Power Rankings and uh, watch
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