November 10, 2014 • 27 mins
Brian Billick and Steve Mariucci recap Week 10 in the NFL. They discuss who's to blame in Chicago for the Bears struggles, whether the Arizona Cardinals can go to the Super Bowl with Drew Stanton at quarterback and if the 49ers or Seahawks are the better playoff contender. Plus, Baltimore Ravens head coach John Harbaugh joins the show to talk about the Ravens comeback win over the Tennessee Titans.
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Now you know, the Arizona Cardinals are sitting there at
eight and one. Bruce ayerans doing a heck of a job.
It's got a great defense, everything's going their way. And
then boom down gooes Carson Palmer. Let's talk a little
bit about what is in store for the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah,
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and Carson was having such a great season, had only
thrown three interceptions all season and was undefeated as a quarterback. Well,
he's gonna miss the rest of the way, right and
and uh, Bruce arians brought Drew Staton there for a reason.
He knew this system. He he liked his maturity. He's
thirty years old. He's not a kid anymore. So if
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anybody's gonna take over for Carson Palmer, you can see
Carson right there, that left knee right there, Uh, same
knee injured when he was at Cincinnati, and hopefully he'll
be back better than you. He tweaked it right there too,
and it was not odd kind of how many times
do we see that again? It wasn't like he got
crumpled up and tackled, just kind of open, got torked
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a little bit and it just must have hit just
the wrong way. Yeah. I think he had an A
c L and M c L that least that last
surgery there. But hopefully this is not going to require
too much repair. But let's go Drew Stanton, he's gonna
have to save the day. Well, and Bruce has come
out like we all would say, I mean, what else
are you gonna say? But we can go in a
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super Bowl because that's where they're at right now. They're
eighting one and when you look at their schedule without
you know, being disrespectful, that they got Atlanta, Kansas City, St. Louis,
Kansas City is at home. You can see them getting
to eleven five and a heartbeat that doesn't even a rest.
What they'll do this week at Detroit, which is gonna
be a really great game they got Seattle twice in
San Francisco, so if they can just steal one or
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two of those all of a sudden, now you're looking
at a twelve win season maybe, So clearly they're on
the path for the playoffs. But let's talk about now
they have faith and Drew Stanton. But you know, frankly, now,
Drew Stanton's a sub six guy, just about as many
touchdowns interception. He does have a little experience. Now he
says he's not going to change anything, Bruce arians, but
don't you have to alter the offense just a little
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in terms of playing playing great defense. Let's let's put
more emphasis on the run of the ball and let
this guy just not lose it for us. Well, the
answer is yes, because I think Drew stands a little
bit more mobile than Carson Palmer is. And you saw
when he came in the game. He ran some play
action stuff, some movement stuff, and I think he can
do this very well. The only problem with that is
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they've got to run the ball more often. Andrea Ellieton
only had twenty three yards rushing, so they've got to
find some balance in their offense. But I think Drew
Stanton is capable of getting the ball down the field.
Look he's looking, he's he's got a lot of guts.
Now look at that. Look at that John Brown. Now
I like the dance. Look at that. That looks like
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you he needs some spandex on if he's gonna do it,
dance like that. But but you talk about the running
game normally. Okay, we'll look at the agris on the
Carl's eight one saying they're playing great defense, not good defense,
great defense, shut down secondary that let's Todd Bowles pressure
all he wants with seven and eight guys, but you
gotta run their twenty nine and league in rushing. They've
got to commit to running the ball better if they're
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going to help Drew Stanton, you know, not turn the
ball over. Get you one maybe two touchdowns a game
and let that formula win for you, no doubt. We
always say, uh, and he's not a young quarterback, but
he's a backup and he's a new quarterback. You gotta
play defense, which they will, and you gotta run the
ball to help that guy out a little bit. So
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I think Bruce knows that he'll run the football more
often and in a better way to help him out.
But you know he says, Drew stan can win a
Super Bowl for him. You know what, what else is
he gonna say? Well, he's run enough to take second
in our division. He's got it, he's got it. We're dead,
we're done, We're shut it down because there's no way
we can win with this guy. So yeah, what what
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do you think he's gonna say? Uh? And and I
the team again that asked two and one, okay, and
when he has started for them, and he came in
and did as we just showed that winning touchdown. So
it's not like he just came in and kind of
handed off to finish off the game. He actually came
in and you could say won the game for him.
The game against Detroit. That the game against Detroit's gonna
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be interesting because Detroit has you talk about, or we
just talked about their ability to run the ball. Detroit,
that front seven of theirs can make it a long
day running the ball for Arizona. But conversely, I'm loving
waiting for the matchup between Patrick Peterson Antonio Crimarti. They
got nothing but first round draft to is back there,
Dion Buchanan and even Tyron Matthew he was the first round,
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but he was a third round, but he was a
first round talent. We agree with that was the off
field deal. That So you're talking about four first rounders
matching up against Megatron and obviously Golden Tape and Riddick
coming out of the backfield. The tight ends, if they're healthy,
now's when this is this is gonna be worth the
price of admission. Yeah, and you've got Drew Staton's a
Michigan kid right from Farmington Hills over there, and he
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you know this, this is gonna be a huge game
in terms of NFC playoff ramifications. Detroit goes to Arizona.
Both quarterbacks are gonna be slinging it around and it's
gonna come down to which corners can hold up the best. Yeah,
it's and and the hardest thing I have is that
running game. They've They've got five games that they've played.
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This isn't eight one football team, but five games where
they've had less than a hundred yards rushing and only
four with over a hundred. So you're right, the touches
their ability to run um. They've got to get more
focus on that. And and we talked about Bruce arians
Let's remember Tom Moore, a long time offensive mind in
this league. He's kind of mentoring the quarterbacks and the
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effect you can see that he's that he's had on
Carson Palmer, and that also will be a very calm
voice for Drew Stanton to drawn along with Bruce Arians.
So yeah, these guys are gonna be okay and if
anybody can pull it out, will beat Bruce Arians. Let's
move on. We were talking a little bit about Boy
that Sunday night game. Moach I, I you'd like to say, boy,
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I've been there, and now tough of that is fortunately
you and I I don't know you, but I've never
been there, not not when you're looking up. And it's
that slow train wreck that we saw with Chicago and
Green Bay and Mark Tressman. You got what what do
you what do you say at halftime on a game
like that? Uh, you know, they're down forty two and nothing,
and and I think that's the second worst of all
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time at halftime. So there's no cookie cutter speech for
something like that. And then they come back out in
the third quarter and they get a punt blocked and
then not very good at anything. And so I feel
bad for these guys. Their expectations was pretty darn high.
They were the second best scoring team in the league
last year. Four guys that went to Pro Bowls with
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Cutler and all Sean Jeffrey and Brandon Marshall and Forte.
They've been very good at times in their careers. Excuse me,
they're they're not doing it. They're not doing it in
defense either. They're not doing it in special teams either.
I don't know. I don't have an answer for these guys.
Well and and and this is an indictment to a degree,
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but the pressure on Mark Tressman. Now, I do a
radio show in Chicago every every week, and you can
tell the mentality is, I mean, let's look around the
league without maybe Dallas, maybe Denver. Is there a offensive
group that you would trade for those if you had
those Chicago Bears, and you talk about all those receivers,
good offensive line. Mills and Long on the right side
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were rookies last year and they've played up to it.
You got Matt Forte behind you. You know, they're they're
clearly one of the top five offensive personnel group, aren't
they And they're just no production, They're none and You've
got a versatile running back with a big receiving group
tight ends and receivers are huge, and a strong arm quarterback,
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and they're just not getting the plays, especially down the
field like they did a year ago. They have to
earn every yard they make, They have to go the
distance twelve place to to get it in the end zone.
They're finding a way to shoot themselves in the foot,
whether it's a penalty, a drop pass, a fumble, a sack,
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illegal procedures. They can't put successive place together. And I'm shocked.
I'm when I at halftime because I stuck around and
I did game Day final last night, and I'm watching
this at halftime, and I'm thinking of that A long
time Chuck Mills, Remember Chuck Mills former head coach, college
head coach was I think it was a William and
Mary and they were playing Oklahoma and they were down
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same thing kind of like fifty and nothing at half.
And the story is is that at halftime Chuck Mills
winning got his team together, these guys, here's what we're
gonna do. Because you know in Oklahoma, every time they
score that boomer sooner right and the horses going around.
He says, guys, we're gonna let that. I don't care
how many times we have to let them score. I
want that horse dead. I want that horse to pass
out from a heart attack. I don't care if we
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have to give up a hundred and fifty points. That's
our goal, is to run that horse into the ground.
All right, coach, let's go do it. Did they do it?
I don't know, but it probably got close. That was,
you know, and we can make fun of it. Well,
it's it's tough because this is gonna get ugly in Chicago.
I think whether it's Mark trust melt Tucker, the defensive coordinator,
you know, he came into a tough situation. They were
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pretty good on defense when they took over, so he
kind of gave himself over. He says, okay, we'll use
your terminology, we'll run your defense. And they were terrible
last year and Mark Trustman, in my opinion, smartly kept
melt Tucker even though they were lasting league in defense.
And now Ill said okay, well, now I'm gonna do
it my way. And they to transition and they've got
some people now. They brought in Jared Allen and Willie
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Young on the defensive line. Uh, Lance Briggs is just
coming back healthy. So there are some people there. Their
safeties are really suspect. With Monday and Chris conte um
this defensive group, they're gonna stick together. But unfortunately there's
gonna be some pressure here in Chicago at the end
of the year. Yeah, they got Lance Briggs back, but
it didn't seem to help much last night. Peana Tillman's
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not coming back. Kyle Fuller, I like him, the rookie
over there right corner. He's going to be a good
showing some signs. But you know, they just they busted
so many coverages. That's the problem. If you if you
give up a touchdown pass and it's contested and it's close, fine,
but when guys are wide open like that and d
if there's one guy you're gonna cover, it's Jordy Nelson, Right,
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there's one guy you're gonna cover, roll up to double
whatever it is, and he's just running down the field
with that first touchdown, you know, no one even close. Yeah,
and then they throw a little screen past to this
guy right here and he a cy and it goes
for about sixty yards for a touchdown. Nobody wanted to
tackle the guy. Yeah, a lot of business decisions being
made on that one. That's a big back to bring down.
But but I just and and and on the Jordy Nelson,
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it looked like the corner was playing cover two, but
the safety was playing one free in the middle. That's
a tough combination. Now, yeah, those don't go together. And
so they've got some things to fix that. And you know,
as a head coach, you come back after a game
and you say, all right, let's look at what we did. Well,
let's look at what we need to improve. They've got
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a laundry list now in every phase of the game.
We've got to get better at this. This, this, this,
this is in the second area. You've gotta get this this, this,
this in the passing game. They've got a lot of
things to try to figure out. Where they have Minnesota
come into town again, they have a chance to win.
They gotta find a way to win it in the division,
which makes it doubly tough. So well, let's move on
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to uh, your neck of the woods in this NFC
West with Seattle and San Francisco. Obviously you know Seattle,
hell help Court, you know, obviously home against a questionable
New York Giant team. But boy, the Niners. We talked
about last week about the Niners going into play New
Orleans and this was gonna be just the team they
needed to play because going on the road and beating
Jacksonville wasn't gonna do any good. Go into New Orleans
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where they have not been beat eleventh straight games winning
streak at home. That's kind of their mantle. Uh, and
able to pull out a really huge win on the
road at New Orleans. San Francisco. I'm not gonna say
they're totally back, but they've kept them. They've righted their
ship at least have given themselves a chance right now
sitting here at five and four. Huge win because really,
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up here in the Bay Area people were saying, boy,
if we lose this game and dropped to five and four,
the percentage of making playoffs is this would be a killer. Okay, Well,
they win the game in overtime. Crazy game. They did
some great things. Look at this great catch and Lewis
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had good coverage, but this one right here, fourth and ten,
this game should have been over, but the safety came
out of coverage and let that catch. Gave up the
field goal, and Kwan Bolden had fifteen targets. That guy's
a stud. And then Colin Kaepernick wasn't very good, but
he made a couple of plays that he needed to
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And and uh, I thought the Saints had some opportunities
they missed right before the half. They had two time
outs in their pocket, and they hurried, and they drew
through a pass into triple coverage intercepted right before the
half when really they could have just slowed it down
and took a time on kick a field whatever. Um.
But the forty Niners found a way to win it.
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They're five and four, they're right back in it, and
they're gonna start getting healthy. Yeah, on defense, which is
obviously has not been the problem. Well, let's talk a
little bit about them in the Seahawks in terms of
both are on the verge of leaving the NFC West
and going into the NFC Wild Card Division, notwithstanding how
Arizona plays. And that gets very competitive now because Green
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Bay and and uh and obviously uh you're looking at
Dallas and and and Philadelphia is in that competition. Nothing's
gonna come out of the NFC South, obviously, But if
you're looking in the NFC North Long with Detroit and
Green Bay. So if you look at this and remember
now the Seattle and it was a good solid win
for they got down a three game winning streak, but
two a month ago, remember Seattle had back to back
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losses and people were wondering where they're gonna go. And
Pete Carroll's saying kind of like, uh, you know, um,
Aaron Rodgers, they just relaxed, We're okay. Well, he said,
just relax because they were gonna play Oakland, Carolina and
the New York Giants, who collectively are six and twenty
and one. So Pete kind of new, you know where
they were heading him with that thing. But if you
look at the schedule and they've got Kansas City course,
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San Francisco twice, they got Arizona, they gotta play Philly
in there at Philly, I can see where Seattle and
and San Francisco kind of scratch out maybe a tenant six,
eleven and five record, and one of them is gonna
be out of the playoffs at ten and six or
even eleven and five. Brian, it's possible that both of
them missed the players the playoffs because you're gonna have
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probably two out of the NFC East Eagles and Cowboys
getting in. You're probably gonna have two out of the
NFC North Lions and Packers getting in. So it's possible
that you need to win the NFC West to get in. Obviously,
Arizona's in the driver's seat with their record, but all
of these teams play each other now, and wouldn't that
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be something if Seattle and forty Niners don't get in. Yeah,
when we all when we thought the NFC West might
see three participants in the playoffs be given Arizona ten
and six last year didn't make the playoffs. So, but
you're right, this is becoming very competitive in that way.
I pick one. What do you think? Who said San
Francisco Seattle? Who gets you had to pick one? I
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think San Francisco only because they're going to be a
complete team here going into December. Smith Navarro bow bowman,
Patrick will He. Patrick Willis hasn't played in the last
few games. He's coming back. Glenn Dorsey possibly. I think
they're gonna be more whole going down the stretch and
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the way they play the Seahawks twice within three weeks,
and the healthiest team will win Yeah, good, good point.
And the good thing for them too is they've got
Oakland in between, so you know which is obviously that
you look at their schedule in terms of New York,
maybe Washington at home, Oakland, you know, San Diego, we'll
see where they are at, so you can easily see
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that path that Now it really comes down to those
split games with Seattle and that last game against Arizona. Yeah,
it could come down to that one for all the Enchilaudas.
I mean, it's Arizona at San Francisco win or take all. Well,
one of the coaches that had a really good, solid
win this week, a seven win against the Tennessee Titans,
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was John Harborugh of the Baltimore Ravens, and we had
a chance to catch up with John. He'll look into
the touchdown play. That was a fantastic tort Smith has
it touchdown talk about rank effort Wood. Well, I'm joined
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by the head coach the Baltimore Ravens, John Harbor, and
John great win. Every win's a great win, but talk
a little bit about I always found that playing a
team like Tennessee struggling a little bit team you're supposed
to beat at home, sometimes so those were the hardest
games to get through. Those can be the hardest games.
And we had another challenge being the fact that we're
going into our bye week this week. We were coming
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off a really physical game against the Steelers on Sunday night.
It was emotionally challenging loss. And then the Titans had
the bye weekly week before, so they were preparing for us,
and they had a great game plan for us, so
really well coached team. But our guys overcame it. They
fought through it, and I thought we got better as
a game when um I thought when they had driven
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the ball initially and then you got that turnover down
on the goal line. Not that the team woke up,
but that was kind of like, okay, now now we'll
write this thing going forward. It was big. You know.
We preached to our guys all the time, especially in
the red zone, just make him play one more play.
Let's make it hard for him to score to wherever
the he can, to keep him out and maybe we'll
have a chance to make a play. And that's probably
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the training tape for that coaching point right there. Yeah. Absolutely,
you can't. You can't always those good teaching moments, No,
question about it, and your team responded very well, I
want to talk about Justin Force said a little bit. Obviously,
you know, the guy's fourth in the league and rushing
right now. Had a big game the other day twenty
carries for a hundred and twelve yards when and obviously
he suits the Gary Kubiak zone running system. Did you
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know when you first got him that that he was
gonna kind of be this good or is it kind
of like whole boy? Did he kind of grow on you? Well,
I'd like to say that I knew, uh, Justin knew.
He has been a guy if you look at his career,
has made a lot of plays. He's good in past protection,
he can catch the ball. But the thing I think
that we're seeing now that maybe people didn't know about.
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He's got unbelievable vision and he makes people miss. So
he's making yards for us and it's just been a
great addition. It's nobody. I don't think anybody predicted it.
Even Gary probably didn't predict it. But Justin he has
done some special things on on really both of the
touchdown and runs, but one in particular, it's you know,
obviously is we both know in that zone running scheme.
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You gotta be patient and when you make that one
cut and go. And there were a couple of plays,
one on the touchdown where he really showed that patience
of Okay, I know it's coming, I know it's coming. Boom,
now I'm ready to go. Right, He does have patience
and he's not in a hurry to get into the hole.
He sees the whole broad spectrum of the line of scrimmage.
I've seen him take a stretch play outside the tight
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end to the to the right and all the way
back behind the whole defense to the left, and that's
pretty hard to do. Another guy, I want to talk
about someone that I'm familiar with, Tory Smith, that came
in that was a raw talent when he came in
a lot of people I don't think fully appreciate just
how raw he was. This was there was some growth
that had to happen here, and it looks like he
has really gotten to that point where he is really
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a true professional. Now. Well, he's running all the routes now,
he's doing a great job with the underneath routes, the
stop routes, coming back to the sideline, the deep middle
crossing routes, the routes that are hard for those guys
to run. We always thought he could track deep balls. Um,
he's probably done a better job in the past than
that he has this year. But he's drawn penalties this
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year because people are kind of grabbing him deep. But
he made place for us yesterday deep, which was huge. Yeah,
if I'm not mistaken, he's the number one penalized, meaning
he draws more penalties than any receiver in the league
so far. Right, that's as good as a catch. Right, Absolutely,
it's a fast interference. That's the rules of the game.
But you know what, Hey, you know he goes up
and makes plays. He can run fast, and guys are
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grabbing him, and I think that's a sign of respect. Sure,
that's all part of it. Um, I gotta ask it.
And given your Special Teams background, because I'm sitting I'm
watching all the games. Thing I'm gonna love and right
now and what I do for the NFL network, I
get to watch all the games and then for playbook,
I've got to get ready for my segments special Teams.
And maybe it just feels this way. We're seeing more
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blocked punts, blocked kicks, more punt returns and I'm I'm
the old coaching. He's coming out is part of this,
a function of the limited time you have to get
your teams ready in training, camping, and done during the season.
It probably is part of that. Another theory that we
have is the fact that there are a fewer kickoff
and kickoff return plays, so it uh lessons the value
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of special teams players and maybe sometimes guys aren't keeping
those veteran players that know how to play quite as much,
so you get worse covered kickoffs and worse covered punts,
and it creates more big plays just sheer reps something
you're not doing as much of and all of a
sudden it's not as good. Well, I'm looking at your division, coach,
and who the thought all but early I love it
when they say, well, if the playoffs started today, Well
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they don't. But could you envision being six and four
and technically being last in the division? That just doesn't
make sense. Yeah, we're not looking at it that way, Yeah, exactly. Well,
what it says is how good your division is. Talk
a little bit about that. It is a great division.
You know, I thought at the beginning of the year
it had a chance to be the best division in football.
We just have to do our part. We've got six
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games left, We've got three excellent teams in our division.
We're gonna have to play great football to keep up
with these teams. We plan on doing that. That's our objective,
that's our goal. Do you ever think about petitioning to
move to the NFC South where where four and five
leads the division? That that would solve the problem right there.
We like our rivalries, yeah, absolutely, And obviously what you've
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got coming in front of you, you've got to feel
very good about where you're at in terms of kind
of in control of your own destiny, just simply sitting
at six and four, which is pretty darn good. And
the teams you have to play, obviously within the division,
Cleveland you're gonna play again, Obviously who leads the division
right now, that's part of It's got to make you
feel good, it does. You know, the team's just a vision,
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gonna play against each other and there's gonna be some
losses and some wins kind of stacked up that way.
But we gotta take care of our business. We've got
to go to New Orleans in two weeks. We've got
San Diego coming in here in three weeks. Tough schedule
after that, Well deserve it. Week off, coach, get some
time away. We appreciate it. Thanks, coach. Great being with you.
I always enjoy visiting with John Harbor. Always has a good,
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solid perspective on the game. Coach. Let's talk about they
had a little bit of a flurry about a locker
room conversation at the end of the game that was
filmed and he made a comment about the Pittsburgh Steelers,
and it wasn't supposed to be public that it was.
Let's talk about postgame speeches a little bit. Tell me
about one of your better postgame speeches. We played one
on here in the other the other day on the
show right where it said, look, I know you guys
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don't listen to half of what I say, and I
don't listen to half and believe half of what I say.
Either button went on to make whatever point. Let's talk
about the purpose. What is that that postgame locker room
pep talk by the coach supposed to be? Well, you know,
when you win, it's great. It's uh, there's nothing better
than a joyous locker room right and there's nothing worse
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than a discouraged, angry locker room. But one thing is
really ticked me off one time I was in a
locker room. This is a little bit like John's. First
of all, you have to allow the network to come
in and film if you want him in there. Well,
when I was with San Francisco, we won a game.
We ended up twelve and four, and because other games
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were going on at the same time, we learned that
we were gonna go to Green Bay for a playoff game,
and we were the wild card team at twelve and four.
And I said, that's right, We're gonna go to the
frozen tundra and it's gonna be twenty below and big
hairy armpit. We're gonna go in there, and had to
kick them. But well, the headlines everywhere was Mary Uchi
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calls Green Bay, Wisconsin a big hairy armpit. So this
is where I'm from. I was pissed. I can't remember
if it was Fox or CV. I can't remember when network.
I was so because I had an answer every press,
every day, even when I went back there, and this
is where I grew up. Obviously, have all the respect
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in the world for them, but they aired it, and
they kind of made me look stupid, and I was
reluctant to let any networks in my locker room after that. Yeah,
we've all had I I can make myself look stupid
without any help, so I don't need a network to
you're exactly right. How about the one not long ago
when I think it was Rex Ryan's second year when
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and he came out to his news conference kind of apologizing, well,
it's too bad we mit and haven't made the playoffs
in YadA YadA, YadA, and they coach No, so and
so lost. You're in the playoffs. So you have to
wonder what was his locker room speech, which you always
do before you come in, and hell, guys, you know,
I'll see you on my name. We'll check out meetings
at two o'clock and then get here rushed back into
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by the way, guys, No hold on, half the guys
have already left and checked out. And boy, yeah that
I you know, the to me, the post game was
always all week long. You're setting a theme, you know,
it begins with that Wednesday morning meeting, and you kind
of set a couple of teams you hope the players
buy into and you, you touch on it during the
course of the week, and then that Saturday night, you know,
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you kind of bring it full circle in terms of
the message you're delivering. And then hopefully after the game
in a positive sense, you you finish it off. You
bring back Okay, we said we had to do so
and so and so, and we did that and that's
great and uh, and you finish it off. It was
always You're right, it's always a very very emotional time.
But you can tell, as with Rex Ryan, just to
get that one win. You talk and Mike Smith in
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Atlanta the same way. You know that the exhale that
you have now with those guys, just to give them okay,
we we And how about Mike Smith. They're they're sitting
there at three and six or one game out. How
about that one? How about that motivational guys, this one
when for the Gipper and only one game out at
three and god bless America at three and six, you're
only one game out. That's fantastic. I know. That's why
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it is. You know they're going into November and December,
so interest Dean in the National Football League because most
teams still have a chance and so that's what makes
it awesome. Yeah, and and the outcomes are very very
very quantifiable. Now again I always said, everybody said, well
this is a must win and this is a big win. Well,
no more so than September. We just know what the
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outcome is now based on or what the results are of,
because that win in September is probably what sets you
up in November and December for this to be a
must win or one way or the other. Well, thanks
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Now you know, the Arizona Cardinals are sitting there at
eight and one. Bruce ayerans doing a heck of a job.
It's got a great defense, everything's going their way. And
then boom down gooes Carson Palmer. Let's talk a little
bit about what is in store for the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah,
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and Carson was having such a great season, had only
thrown three interceptions all season and was undefeated as a quarterback. Well,
he's gonna miss the rest of the way, right and
and uh, Bruce arians brought Drew Staton there for a reason.
He knew this system. He he liked his maturity. He's
thirty years old. He's not a kid anymore. So if
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anybody's gonna take over for Carson Palmer, you can see
Carson right there, that left knee right there, Uh, same
knee injured when he was at Cincinnati, and hopefully he'll
be back better than you. He tweaked it right there too,
and it was not odd kind of how many times
do we see that again? It wasn't like he got
crumpled up and tackled, just kind of open, got torked
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a little bit and it just must have hit just
the wrong way. Yeah. I think he had an A
c L and M c L that least that last
surgery there. But hopefully this is not going to require
too much repair. But let's go Drew Stanton, he's gonna
have to save the day. Well, and Bruce has come
out like we all would say, I mean, what else
are you gonna say? But we can go in a
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super Bowl because that's where they're at right now. They're
eighting one and when you look at their schedule without
you know, being disrespectful, that they got Atlanta, Kansas City, St. Louis,
Kansas City is at home. You can see them getting
to eleven five and a heartbeat that doesn't even a rest.
What they'll do this week at Detroit, which is gonna
be a really great game they got Seattle twice in
San Francisco, so if they can just steal one or
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two of those all of a sudden, now you're looking
at a twelve win season maybe, So clearly they're on
the path for the playoffs. But let's talk about now
they have faith and Drew Stanton. But you know, frankly, now,
Drew Stanton's a sub six guy, just about as many
touchdowns interception. He does have a little experience. Now he
says he's not going to change anything, Bruce arians, but
don't you have to alter the offense just a little
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in terms of playing playing great defense. Let's let's put
more emphasis on the run of the ball and let
this guy just not lose it for us. Well, the
answer is yes, because I think Drew stands a little
bit more mobile than Carson Palmer is. And you saw
when he came in the game. He ran some play
action stuff, some movement stuff, and I think he can
do this very well. The only problem with that is
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they've got to run the ball more often. Andrea Ellieton
only had twenty three yards rushing, so they've got to
find some balance in their offense. But I think Drew
Stanton is capable of getting the ball down the field.
Look he's looking, he's he's got a lot of guts.
Now look at that. Look at that John Brown. Now
I like the dance. Look at that. That looks like
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you he needs some spandex on if he's gonna do it,
dance like that. But but you talk about the running
game normally. Okay, we'll look at the agris on the
Carl's eight one saying they're playing great defense, not good defense,
great defense, shut down secondary that let's Todd Bowles pressure
all he wants with seven and eight guys, but you
gotta run their twenty nine and league in rushing. They've
got to commit to running the ball better if they're
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going to help Drew Stanton, you know, not turn the
ball over. Get you one maybe two touchdowns a game
and let that formula win for you, no doubt. We
always say, uh, and he's not a young quarterback, but
he's a backup and he's a new quarterback. You gotta
play defense, which they will, and you gotta run the
ball to help that guy out a little bit. So
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I think Bruce knows that he'll run the football more
often and in a better way to help him out.
But you know he says, Drew stan can win a
Super Bowl for him. You know what, what else is
he gonna say? Well, he's run enough to take second
in our division. He's got it, he's got it. We're dead,
we're done, We're shut it down because there's no way
we can win with this guy. So yeah, what what
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do you think he's gonna say? Uh? And and I
the team again that asked two and one, okay, and
when he has started for them, and he came in
and did as we just showed that winning touchdown. So
it's not like he just came in and kind of
handed off to finish off the game. He actually came
in and you could say won the game for him.
The game against Detroit. That the game against Detroit's gonna
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be interesting because Detroit has you talk about, or we
just talked about their ability to run the ball. Detroit,
that front seven of theirs can make it a long
day running the ball for Arizona. But conversely, I'm loving
waiting for the matchup between Patrick Peterson Antonio Crimarti. They
got nothing but first round draft to is back there,
Dion Buchanan and even Tyron Matthew he was the first round,
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but he was a third round, but he was a
first round talent. We agree with that was the off
field deal. That So you're talking about four first rounders
matching up against Megatron and obviously Golden Tape and Riddick
coming out of the backfield. The tight ends, if they're healthy,
now's when this is this is gonna be worth the
price of admission. Yeah, and you've got Drew Staton's a
Michigan kid right from Farmington Hills over there, and he
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you know this, this is gonna be a huge game
in terms of NFC playoff ramifications. Detroit goes to Arizona.
Both quarterbacks are gonna be slinging it around and it's
gonna come down to which corners can hold up the best. Yeah,
it's and and the hardest thing I have is that
running game. They've They've got five games that they've played.
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This isn't eight one football team, but five games where
they've had less than a hundred yards rushing and only
four with over a hundred. So you're right, the touches
their ability to run um. They've got to get more
focus on that. And and we talked about Bruce arians
Let's remember Tom Moore, a long time offensive mind in
this league. He's kind of mentoring the quarterbacks and the
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effect you can see that he's that he's had on
Carson Palmer, and that also will be a very calm
voice for Drew Stanton to drawn along with Bruce Arians.
So yeah, these guys are gonna be okay and if
anybody can pull it out, will beat Bruce Arians. Let's
move on. We were talking a little bit about Boy
that Sunday night game. Moach I, I you'd like to say, boy,
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I've been there, and now tough of that is fortunately
you and I I don't know you, but I've never
been there, not not when you're looking up. And it's
that slow train wreck that we saw with Chicago and
Green Bay and Mark Tressman. You got what what do
you what do you say at halftime on a game
like that? Uh, you know, they're down forty two and nothing,
and and I think that's the second worst of all
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time at halftime. So there's no cookie cutter speech for
something like that. And then they come back out in
the third quarter and they get a punt blocked and
then not very good at anything. And so I feel
bad for these guys. Their expectations was pretty darn high.
They were the second best scoring team in the league
last year. Four guys that went to Pro Bowls with
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Cutler and all Sean Jeffrey and Brandon Marshall and Forte.
They've been very good at times in their careers. Excuse me,
they're they're not doing it. They're not doing it in
defense either. They're not doing it in special teams either.
I don't know. I don't have an answer for these guys.
Well and and and this is an indictment to a degree,
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but the pressure on Mark Tressman. Now, I do a
radio show in Chicago every every week, and you can
tell the mentality is, I mean, let's look around the
league without maybe Dallas, maybe Denver. Is there a offensive
group that you would trade for those if you had
those Chicago Bears, and you talk about all those receivers,
good offensive line. Mills and Long on the right side
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were rookies last year and they've played up to it.
You got Matt Forte behind you. You know, they're they're
clearly one of the top five offensive personnel group, aren't
they And they're just no production, They're none and You've
got a versatile running back with a big receiving group
tight ends and receivers are huge, and a strong arm quarterback,
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and they're just not getting the plays, especially down the
field like they did a year ago. They have to
earn every yard they make, They have to go the
distance twelve place to to get it in the end zone.
They're finding a way to shoot themselves in the foot,
whether it's a penalty, a drop pass, a fumble, a sack,
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illegal procedures. They can't put successive place together. And I'm shocked.
I'm when I at halftime because I stuck around and
I did game Day final last night, and I'm watching
this at halftime, and I'm thinking of that A long
time Chuck Mills, Remember Chuck Mills former head coach, college
head coach was I think it was a William and
Mary and they were playing Oklahoma and they were down
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same thing kind of like fifty and nothing at half.
And the story is is that at halftime Chuck Mills
winning got his team together, these guys, here's what we're
gonna do. Because you know in Oklahoma, every time they
score that boomer sooner right and the horses going around.
He says, guys, we're gonna let that. I don't care
how many times we have to let them score. I
want that horse dead. I want that horse to pass
out from a heart attack. I don't care if we
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have to give up a hundred and fifty points. That's
our goal, is to run that horse into the ground.
All right, coach, let's go do it. Did they do it?
I don't know, but it probably got close. That was,
you know, and we can make fun of it. Well,
it's it's tough because this is gonna get ugly in Chicago.
I think whether it's Mark trust melt Tucker, the defensive coordinator,
you know, he came into a tough situation. They were
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pretty good on defense when they took over, so he
kind of gave himself over. He says, okay, we'll use
your terminology, we'll run your defense. And they were terrible
last year and Mark Trustman, in my opinion, smartly kept
melt Tucker even though they were lasting league in defense.
And now Ill said okay, well, now I'm gonna do
it my way. And they to transition and they've got
some people now. They brought in Jared Allen and Willie
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Young on the defensive line. Uh, Lance Briggs is just
coming back healthy. So there are some people there. Their
safeties are really suspect. With Monday and Chris conte um
this defensive group, they're gonna stick together. But unfortunately there's
gonna be some pressure here in Chicago at the end
of the year. Yeah, they got Lance Briggs back, but
it didn't seem to help much last night. Peana Tillman's
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not coming back. Kyle Fuller, I like him, the rookie
over there right corner. He's going to be a good
showing some signs. But you know, they just they busted
so many coverages. That's the problem. If you if you
give up a touchdown pass and it's contested and it's close, fine,
but when guys are wide open like that and d
if there's one guy you're gonna cover, it's Jordy Nelson, Right,
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there's one guy you're gonna cover, roll up to double
whatever it is, and he's just running down the field
with that first touchdown, you know, no one even close. Yeah,
and then they throw a little screen past to this
guy right here and he a cy and it goes
for about sixty yards for a touchdown. Nobody wanted to
tackle the guy. Yeah, a lot of business decisions being
made on that one. That's a big back to bring down.
But but I just and and and on the Jordy Nelson,
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it looked like the corner was playing cover two, but
the safety was playing one free in the middle. That's
a tough combination. Now, yeah, those don't go together. And
so they've got some things to fix that. And you know,
as a head coach, you come back after a game
and you say, all right, let's look at what we did. Well,
let's look at what we need to improve. They've got
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a laundry list now in every phase of the game.
We've got to get better at this. This, this, this,
this is in the second area. You've gotta get this this, this,
this in the passing game. They've got a lot of
things to try to figure out. Where they have Minnesota
come into town again, they have a chance to win.
They gotta find a way to win it in the division,
which makes it doubly tough. So well, let's move on
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to uh, your neck of the woods in this NFC
West with Seattle and San Francisco. Obviously you know Seattle,
hell help Court, you know, obviously home against a questionable
New York Giant team. But boy, the Niners. We talked
about last week about the Niners going into play New
Orleans and this was gonna be just the team they
needed to play because going on the road and beating
Jacksonville wasn't gonna do any good. Go into New Orleans
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where they have not been beat eleventh straight games winning
streak at home. That's kind of their mantle. Uh, and
able to pull out a really huge win on the
road at New Orleans. San Francisco. I'm not gonna say
they're totally back, but they've kept them. They've righted their
ship at least have given themselves a chance right now
sitting here at five and four. Huge win because really,
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up here in the Bay Area people were saying, boy,
if we lose this game and dropped to five and four,
the percentage of making playoffs is this would be a killer. Okay, Well,
they win the game in overtime. Crazy game. They did
some great things. Look at this great catch and Lewis
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had good coverage, but this one right here, fourth and ten,
this game should have been over, but the safety came
out of coverage and let that catch. Gave up the
field goal, and Kwan Bolden had fifteen targets. That guy's
a stud. And then Colin Kaepernick wasn't very good, but
he made a couple of plays that he needed to
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And and uh, I thought the Saints had some opportunities
they missed right before the half. They had two time
outs in their pocket, and they hurried, and they drew
through a pass into triple coverage intercepted right before the
half when really they could have just slowed it down
and took a time on kick a field whatever. Um.
But the forty Niners found a way to win it.
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They're five and four, they're right back in it, and
they're gonna start getting healthy. Yeah, on defense, which is
obviously has not been the problem. Well, let's talk a
little bit about them in the Seahawks in terms of
both are on the verge of leaving the NFC West
and going into the NFC Wild Card Division, notwithstanding how
Arizona plays. And that gets very competitive now because Green
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Bay and and uh and obviously uh you're looking at
Dallas and and and Philadelphia is in that competition. Nothing's
gonna come out of the NFC South, obviously, But if
you're looking in the NFC North Long with Detroit and
Green Bay. So if you look at this and remember
now the Seattle and it was a good solid win
for they got down a three game winning streak, but
two a month ago, remember Seattle had back to back
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losses and people were wondering where they're gonna go. And
Pete Carroll's saying kind of like, uh, you know, um,
Aaron Rodgers, they just relaxed, We're okay. Well, he said,
just relax because they were gonna play Oakland, Carolina and
the New York Giants, who collectively are six and twenty
and one. So Pete kind of new, you know where
they were heading him with that thing. But if you
look at the schedule and they've got Kansas City course,
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San Francisco twice, they got Arizona, they gotta play Philly
in there at Philly, I can see where Seattle and
and San Francisco kind of scratch out maybe a tenant six,
eleven and five record, and one of them is gonna
be out of the playoffs at ten and six or
even eleven and five. Brian, it's possible that both of
them missed the players the playoffs because you're gonna have
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probably two out of the NFC East Eagles and Cowboys
getting in. You're probably gonna have two out of the
NFC North Lions and Packers getting in. So it's possible
that you need to win the NFC West to get in. Obviously,
Arizona's in the driver's seat with their record, but all
of these teams play each other now, and wouldn't that
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be something if Seattle and forty Niners don't get in. Yeah,
when we all when we thought the NFC West might
see three participants in the playoffs be given Arizona ten
and six last year didn't make the playoffs. So, but
you're right, this is becoming very competitive in that way.
I pick one. What do you think? Who said San
Francisco Seattle? Who gets you had to pick one? I
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think San Francisco only because they're going to be a
complete team here going into December. Smith Navarro bow bowman,
Patrick will He. Patrick Willis hasn't played in the last
few games. He's coming back. Glenn Dorsey possibly. I think
they're gonna be more whole going down the stretch and
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the way they play the Seahawks twice within three weeks,
and the healthiest team will win Yeah, good, good point.
And the good thing for them too is they've got
Oakland in between, so you know which is obviously that
you look at their schedule in terms of New York,
maybe Washington at home, Oakland, you know, San Diego, we'll
see where they are at, so you can easily see
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that path that Now it really comes down to those
split games with Seattle and that last game against Arizona. Yeah,
it could come down to that one for all the Enchilaudas.
I mean, it's Arizona at San Francisco win or take all. Well,
one of the coaches that had a really good, solid
win this week, a seven win against the Tennessee Titans,
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was John Harborugh of the Baltimore Ravens, and we had
a chance to catch up with John. He'll look into
the touchdown play. That was a fantastic tort Smith has
it touchdown talk about rank effort Wood. Well, I'm joined
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by the head coach the Baltimore Ravens, John Harbor, and
John great win. Every win's a great win, but talk
a little bit about I always found that playing a
team like Tennessee struggling a little bit team you're supposed
to beat at home, sometimes so those were the hardest
games to get through. Those can be the hardest games.
And we had another challenge being the fact that we're
going into our bye week this week. We were coming
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off a really physical game against the Steelers on Sunday night.
It was emotionally challenging loss. And then the Titans had
the bye weekly week before, so they were preparing for us,
and they had a great game plan for us, so
really well coached team. But our guys overcame it. They
fought through it, and I thought we got better as
a game when um I thought when they had driven
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the ball initially and then you got that turnover down
on the goal line. Not that the team woke up,
but that was kind of like, okay, now now we'll
write this thing going forward. It was big. You know.
We preached to our guys all the time, especially in
the red zone, just make him play one more play.
Let's make it hard for him to score to wherever
the he can, to keep him out and maybe we'll
have a chance to make a play. And that's probably
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the training tape for that coaching point right there. Yeah. Absolutely,
you can't. You can't always those good teaching moments, No,
question about it, and your team responded very well, I
want to talk about Justin Force said a little bit. Obviously,
you know, the guy's fourth in the league and rushing
right now. Had a big game the other day twenty
carries for a hundred and twelve yards when and obviously
he suits the Gary Kubiak zone running system. Did you
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know when you first got him that that he was
gonna kind of be this good or is it kind
of like whole boy? Did he kind of grow on you? Well,
I'd like to say that I knew, uh, Justin knew.
He has been a guy if you look at his career,
has made a lot of plays. He's good in past protection,
he can catch the ball. But the thing I think
that we're seeing now that maybe people didn't know about.
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He's got unbelievable vision and he makes people miss. So
he's making yards for us and it's just been a
great addition. It's nobody. I don't think anybody predicted it.
Even Gary probably didn't predict it. But Justin he has
done some special things on on really both of the
touchdown and runs, but one in particular, it's you know,
obviously is we both know in that zone running scheme.
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You gotta be patient and when you make that one
cut and go. And there were a couple of plays,
one on the touchdown where he really showed that patience
of Okay, I know it's coming, I know it's coming. Boom,
now I'm ready to go. Right, He does have patience
and he's not in a hurry to get into the hole.
He sees the whole broad spectrum of the line of scrimmage.
I've seen him take a stretch play outside the tight
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end to the to the right and all the way
back behind the whole defense to the left, and that's
pretty hard to do. Another guy, I want to talk
about someone that I'm familiar with, Tory Smith, that came
in that was a raw talent when he came in
a lot of people I don't think fully appreciate just
how raw he was. This was there was some growth
that had to happen here, and it looks like he
has really gotten to that point where he is really
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a true professional. Now. Well, he's running all the routes now,
he's doing a great job with the underneath routes, the
stop routes, coming back to the sideline, the deep middle
crossing routes, the routes that are hard for those guys
to run. We always thought he could track deep balls. Um,
he's probably done a better job in the past than
that he has this year. But he's drawn penalties this
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year because people are kind of grabbing him deep. But
he made place for us yesterday deep, which was huge. Yeah,
if I'm not mistaken, he's the number one penalized, meaning
he draws more penalties than any receiver in the league
so far. Right, that's as good as a catch. Right, Absolutely,
it's a fast interference. That's the rules of the game.
But you know what, Hey, you know he goes up
and makes plays. He can run fast, and guys are
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grabbing him, and I think that's a sign of respect. Sure,
that's all part of it. Um, I gotta ask it.
And given your Special Teams background, because I'm sitting I'm
watching all the games. Thing I'm gonna love and right
now and what I do for the NFL network, I
get to watch all the games and then for playbook,
I've got to get ready for my segments special Teams.
And maybe it just feels this way. We're seeing more
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blocked punts, blocked kicks, more punt returns and I'm I'm
the old coaching. He's coming out is part of this,
a function of the limited time you have to get
your teams ready in training, camping, and done during the season.
It probably is part of that. Another theory that we
have is the fact that there are a fewer kickoff
and kickoff return plays, so it uh lessons the value
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of special teams players and maybe sometimes guys aren't keeping
those veteran players that know how to play quite as much,
so you get worse covered kickoffs and worse covered punts,
and it creates more big plays just sheer reps something
you're not doing as much of and all of a
sudden it's not as good. Well, I'm looking at your division, coach,
and who the thought all but early I love it
when they say, well, if the playoffs started today, Well
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they don't. But could you envision being six and four
and technically being last in the division? That just doesn't
make sense. Yeah, we're not looking at it that way, Yeah, exactly. Well,
what it says is how good your division is. Talk
a little bit about that. It is a great division.
You know, I thought at the beginning of the year
it had a chance to be the best division in football.
We just have to do our part. We've got six
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games left, We've got three excellent teams in our division.
We're gonna have to play great football to keep up
with these teams. We plan on doing that. That's our objective,
that's our goal. Do you ever think about petitioning to
move to the NFC South where where four and five
leads the division? That that would solve the problem right there.
We like our rivalries, yeah, absolutely, And obviously what you've
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got coming in front of you, you've got to feel
very good about where you're at in terms of kind
of in control of your own destiny, just simply sitting
at six and four, which is pretty darn good. And
the teams you have to play, obviously within the division,
Cleveland you're gonna play again, Obviously who leads the division
right now, that's part of It's got to make you
feel good, it does. You know, the team's just a vision,
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gonna play against each other and there's gonna be some
losses and some wins kind of stacked up that way.
But we gotta take care of our business. We've got
to go to New Orleans in two weeks. We've got
San Diego coming in here in three weeks. Tough schedule
after that, Well deserve it. Week off, coach, get some
time away. We appreciate it. Thanks, coach. Great being with you.
I always enjoy visiting with John Harbor. Always has a good,
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solid perspective on the game. Coach. Let's talk about they
had a little bit of a flurry about a locker
room conversation at the end of the game that was
filmed and he made a comment about the Pittsburgh Steelers,
and it wasn't supposed to be public that it was.
Let's talk about postgame speeches a little bit. Tell me
about one of your better postgame speeches. We played one
on here in the other the other day on the
show right where it said, look, I know you guys
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don't listen to half of what I say, and I
don't listen to half and believe half of what I say.
Either button went on to make whatever point. Let's talk
about the purpose. What is that that postgame locker room
pep talk by the coach supposed to be? Well, you know,
when you win, it's great. It's uh, there's nothing better
than a joyous locker room right and there's nothing worse
(24:04):
than a discouraged, angry locker room. But one thing is
really ticked me off one time I was in a
locker room. This is a little bit like John's. First
of all, you have to allow the network to come
in and film if you want him in there. Well,
when I was with San Francisco, we won a game.
We ended up twelve and four, and because other games
(24:25):
were going on at the same time, we learned that
we were gonna go to Green Bay for a playoff game,
and we were the wild card team at twelve and four.
And I said, that's right, We're gonna go to the
frozen tundra and it's gonna be twenty below and big
hairy armpit. We're gonna go in there, and had to
kick them. But well, the headlines everywhere was Mary Uchi
(24:47):
calls Green Bay, Wisconsin a big hairy armpit. So this
is where I'm from. I was pissed. I can't remember
if it was Fox or CV. I can't remember when network.
I was so because I had an answer every press,
every day, even when I went back there, and this
is where I grew up. Obviously, have all the respect
(25:08):
in the world for them, but they aired it, and
they kind of made me look stupid, and I was
reluctant to let any networks in my locker room after that. Yeah,
we've all had I I can make myself look stupid
without any help, so I don't need a network to
you're exactly right. How about the one not long ago
when I think it was Rex Ryan's second year when
(25:32):
and he came out to his news conference kind of apologizing, well,
it's too bad we mit and haven't made the playoffs
in YadA YadA, YadA, and they coach No, so and
so lost. You're in the playoffs. So you have to
wonder what was his locker room speech, which you always
do before you come in, and hell, guys, you know,
I'll see you on my name. We'll check out meetings
at two o'clock and then get here rushed back into
(25:53):
by the way, guys, No hold on, half the guys
have already left and checked out. And boy, yeah that
I you know, the to me, the post game was
always all week long. You're setting a theme, you know,
it begins with that Wednesday morning meeting, and you kind
of set a couple of teams you hope the players
buy into and you, you touch on it during the
course of the week, and then that Saturday night, you know,
(26:13):
you kind of bring it full circle in terms of
the message you're delivering. And then hopefully after the game
in a positive sense, you you finish it off. You
bring back Okay, we said we had to do so
and so and so, and we did that and that's
great and uh, and you finish it off. It was
always You're right, it's always a very very emotional time.
But you can tell, as with Rex Ryan, just to
get that one win. You talk and Mike Smith in
(26:34):
Atlanta the same way. You know that the exhale that
you have now with those guys, just to give them okay,
we we And how about Mike Smith. They're they're sitting
there at three and six or one game out. How
about that one? How about that motivational guys, this one
when for the Gipper and only one game out at
three and god bless America at three and six, you're
only one game out. That's fantastic. I know. That's why
(26:55):
it is. You know they're going into November and December,
so interest Dean in the National Football League because most
teams still have a chance and so that's what makes
it awesome. Yeah, and and the outcomes are very very
very quantifiable. Now again I always said, everybody said, well
this is a must win and this is a big win. Well,
no more so than September. We just know what the
(27:17):
outcome is now based on or what the results are of,
because that win in September is probably what sets you
up in November and December for this to be a
must win or one way or the other. Well, thanks
for checking us out here on the Coaches Show, Make Shooter.
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