Los Angeles Rams uniform review & best American rock band of all-time?

Dave Dameshek is joined by Matt "Money" Smith, Handsome Hank and Eddie Spaghetti via video chat for a mid-week DDFP! The show starts off with the group discussing actor Hank Azaria's viral Tweet of who should be considered the greatest American rock band of all-time (7:30)? Next, the guys talked about the possibility of NFL teams playing in only a few locations due to Covid-19 (32:30). They rounded out the show by reviewing the Los Angeles Rams new uniforms and ranked the best new ones unveiled in 2020 (38:45).

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The draft is the proof that you do not need
and you should not overreach for a quarterback. Don't do that.
And in fact, of course Cam Newton would have gotten
to Denver. But that's just the start of it, Fellas,
because the torch would have been passed all over the
world of pro football. I've brought some usual aids here,

(00:25):
got your point here? For Andrew luck is now living
in Football America in Charlotte, North Carolina. So instead Cam
is going to land in Denver. Here I can't see him,
but that means that there's no room now for Peyton Manning.
Don't look confused by Peyton. No room for you in Denver,

(00:48):
no matter. There's a spot open now with Matt Hasselbeck
moving on up in Seattle to Seattle, with Peyton Manning
in Seattle and presumably winning a Lombardi at Lee that
Russell Wilson won when he was there. Now he's not
gonna wind up in Seattle. Where's he gonna go? Who
was rumored to be taking him in the third round
of Seattle didn't the Philadelphia Eagle. So now Russell Wilson

(01:12):
lands in Philadelphia. There's no room for Carson Wentz. There
where's Carson Wentz Go? I'll leave that to you. I'm
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And yet another week month year of sequestration. I don't
know where we are just yet, but we're here to

(02:16):
kibbits about the game of pro football and the game
of life with our pals. Here. Let's start it off
with the voice of your Los Angeles Chargers. He looks
down right, so Callie circa nineteen four? Is that Tim
salmon working up work in one of the corner infield
spots for the then Anaheim Angels. I don't know, but

(02:39):
the shades say is or is that the terminator? Let's
get to the bottom of it. I think it is,
in fact our pal Matt Money Smith. What's the poop, fellow? Oh,
I just got my battle vision glasses in the mail
from the SCN on TV. If you notice, because I
think advertising is down a little bit in the world
of television, some of the more interesting commercials are being run,

(03:00):
and one of those happens to be the advertisement for
these fine battle vision glasses designed in a Nassa laboratory,
UH for fighter pilots, and because I have always longed
to be a fighter pilot. But alas, my less than
twenty vision is all that stood in my way, not
my overwhelming powardness in the face of adversity. But I

(03:20):
figured at least I could somewhat live my dream by
simply sporting these, lifting my head up a little bit
and jutting out my bottom jaw so it looks like
it's more square and powerful than it really is. How
does it look? It looks great? Hey? Money? Do you
get anything else but free. You know sometimes with those
kind of ads. If you get I'm glad you asked,

(03:41):
as you can buy you get something. Oh second, and
then just in case I go out at night battle
vision night vision. Yes, all for the low low price
of plus shipping and handling, which was like sixty dollars.
You don't work your spots in the shell. What your
dog talking about? Do that on your own time the

(04:06):
broadcast when you're watching the Chargers host the Rams. We'll
talk about the Rams and their new get ups in
just a second. First, though, let's say hello to our
resident of Miami Dolphins fan all the way from London, England,
surely over the moon that to Uh is now officially
a member of his Miami Dolphins. He's signed, sealed and delivered.

(04:27):
It's handsome, Hank. How are you handsome? Hi, Dave, I'm
very good. You're right? Yes, to or ONEA as I
call him now, Because he is sporting the number one?
Should I stick with that? I don't get it. I
don't get it? Why not? Well? But yeah, apparently that
the punter was wearing number two. I know that he's
going to need to right. They could cut the punter anyway,

(04:49):
because then they're gonna be needing him now that two
is on the team. UM, so yeah, I'm excited. Um
we're still the One of the great surprises of the
last decade for me and talking to pro football players,
was Matt Ryan telling me that he chose the number
two as an homage to his favorite quarterback when he
was growing up, Tim Couch. Very rarely do you get

(05:14):
as a as a human being, do you get to
outstrip your idol in terms of deeds, and Matt Ryan
has actually exceeded his boyhood hero Tim Couch. How many
people can really say that they um did better than
than they're idol did. Also, let's say hello, dar pal
um the you know, big news since last week. Hibbit's

(05:35):
here on the d DFP as it turns out, the
first Monday night football game of the season. I don't
know who's gonna be in the broadcast booth, but I
know who's gonna be on the field. It's his New
New York Football Giants against Mike Pittsburgh Steelers. How say you, Eddie,
I'm looking forward of that game. The Giants have a
lot of really good games this year. Unfortunately, you're looking
forward to that game you're looking forward to I'm looking

(05:56):
forward to any game played by any people. I don't
I'm every don't even have to be people. They could
be our pets. We could they could beat robots. I
don't care robots. Yeah, the Giants are coming to l
A week four, I think so. I mean, I'm not
sure if fans will be near that stadium, but it's
uh it's unfortunate for me because might be there. But
uh yeah, Giants get the Steeler, Giants get the Ravens,

(06:18):
Giants get the car. Was a lot of really big
match looking forward to. Um, but you know, fingers crossed
the football spaghetti you're wearing a game especially garish tank
top today plane because everybody's just listening to us, But
what gives here? It's so it's the Minnesota Timperwolves, Purple Rain,

(06:39):
Jersey's car Anthony Towns. So we're just one actually find
that Jersey. I have a site, like a Chinese wholesale
site that right now, though orders are definitely on like
back order, but they're like fifteen dollars. I order a
bunch of where I'm like bootleg merchandise, bootleg non licensed
merchandise is what you're doing here. Uh, just just helping

(07:02):
to finance the Chinese underground? Is that what you're doing?
You know what? Responsible for COVID nineteen. I hope you yeah,
I think I I at the very least, I hope
you have the dignity to to have on the back
of that jersey the number nineteen. That's what it should
have on their C nineteen. Daddy Spagett, Well, it does

(07:22):
bring up something that has been floating around on social
media this week, which is the question I'm not even
sure who wait, it was somebody significant, somebody as somebody said, Oh, well,
it was what's in the Hankers area? That's right? So uh,
I love your Simpsons, you know Hankers area, he said.
He floated the idea Rolling Stones, Beatles led Zeppelin is

(07:44):
the debate best best band of all time? All British?
Of course, what's the best American band? It's kind of weird.
It's a little bit like asking the question that we've
debated here previously, who's the third best wide receiver in
NFL history? Randy Austin and Jerry Rice are surely the
top two, but after that it gets very weird to

(08:04):
try and figure out who number three? Is the best
American band. It's a pretty unimpressive list. I mean, I'm
not saying there are great bands, but it's weird that
there's not one that you would say rightly rivals any
of the three I just named there, whether its Zeppelin,
Rolling Stones, or the Beatles. Let's start with you. Mute.
Former music executive Matt money Smith best band in American history? Well?

(08:28):
Is it rock band? Rock band? So it's got to
be so it can't be like indie rock or hardcore
or punk rock. It's like rock and roll. Is that
what we're talking about? Well, I think you got to
expand it to that. I don't think you can go
um John Coltrane, right, And I don't think I'm saying like,
like are the Ramans in that conversation? Is that? Or

(08:53):
is it like, hey, it's Eagles, CCR, Tom Petty? Is
it like classic rock? Like? That's what I don't understand
the the what is the question? Yes, I don't know.
I think I can if it's if it's rock band,
I'd probably go um. I mean, I like, can I
go Beach Boys? Like, I'd probably go beach I think

(09:15):
I think I think Beach Boys would probably be my
submission Beach Boys or maybe maybe ccr UM. I think
those two work. I think Metallica from a technical standpoint
in terms of musicianship is in the conversation. Um, I
don't know, I guess, I guess just kind of off
the top of my head, that's what I would. But then,

(09:37):
you know, selfishly, i'd want to put the Grateful Dead
in there. Um, you know, just for wealth of catalog,
difference of sound, the ability to incorporate jazz, blues rock,
multiple singers, the idea of of the drums solo in space. Um,
you know, in terms of drums in space like that
would be in the conversation for me as well. I
know that was a very long answer to a very

(09:58):
simple question. So my apologies, but I don't at all
I'm thinking about it in a moment. I didn't think
about this all right. I'm sorry I didn't send out
a prep sheet for music talk here. But yeah, that
was a great answer you just provided there, and I
feel free to jump in with more. One person I
know who's chomping at the bit to get in on
this is Eddie Spaghetti there so far I'll mention of

(10:18):
who he wants to hear what you know what My
answer is not gonna be what you think. I'm not
gonna even go there. I think to clarify with money
could not better because it was more important than sports,
because because because Hankers Area and the Threats said that
like like Bruce and Tom Petty don't count towards this
because it's more they're more of like a one person

(10:40):
with like a backing band thing. It wasn't a collaborative
group effort with writing the songs and such. Although I
do think the Easter Band is a lot of talented musicians,
but that's a different story. So you can't put Dylan
and Petty and Bruce um Ill the Beach Boys in
the dead word that way? Wait what what a what
an arbitrary line to draw on the sand, Tom Petty
and the Heartbreakers, Huey Lewis and the News. Not that

(11:03):
I'm volunteering them for this, uh for the shortlist here,
but they're bands, aren't they. I mean I, by the way,
as I've said many times before, I don't understand how
you get the van the vanity required to be like, yeah,
this is all of us, this is our whole traveling band.
Will go on the year, on tour for for for years, decades,

(11:27):
um at great length, as a as a collective. But
we are going to call it the Dave Matthews Band,
Like who signs up for that band? Like, no, we
gotta come up with a cool name that isn't Dave. Well,
imagine how noxious? Wait a minute, the Dave damage. Yeah,
the dam okay, bitten by my announced snake. However, the

(11:49):
most obnoxious deed I would submit is um is that
we have the miracle of three chipmunks, three rodents with
with the ability to sing and harmonize and everything else,
and one has the gall to be like, oh, yeah,
but I'm the front man, but I deserve specific shout out. Alvin.
The other two you're just chipmunks, But Alvin, I get

(12:10):
the shout out. Obnoxious, Yes, handsome, Yes, I agree. I
mean they're all talking chipmunks. In the end, everyone deserves
some credit. I don't even know what the other guys
are named, Simon, and I don't care about not that's
not that's not what goes on in the background of

(12:31):
the other But by the way, what's wrong with the
other two? What are they that down on themselves? Are
they that unimpressed, like, yeah, you know, fair's fair. I mean, yeah,
it's it's absolutely, by the laws of nature, a downright
miracle that we all three can sing, but albums just
that much better. So yeah, let's let him get tops singing,

(12:51):
isn't he The the most impressive thing is that they
are talking chipmunks then singing, which is more. Yeah, Hank,
I guess you know the fact that they can communicate
with humans in our in our own language exactly. By
the way, By the way, Hank, if if you would
would be so inclined to weigh in on the Hank
Azaria Twitter thread, Um, do you find it at all offensive?

(13:15):
Because I do. I mean I just rejected it immediately
out of hand when he didn't put Queen in their
Queen's better than any of those bands anyway, So it's like,
how do you come up with that and and not
include Queen, which pretty much every musician would say is
the best of the bunch. Uh, they were the band's band.
Uh if you would ever ask musicians themselves, yeah, I
would throw I think Queen is in the mix. I

(13:36):
as you know, I'm a personal fan of Radiohead, who
I think you could throw in there as well. Um,
so I think I think there. I think America probably
you know, maybe falls outside of the top five at
least when it comes to it. But it's hard to
put those in in any specific order. But I enjoy
all of that music. For an American band, can I submit?
And this is maybe just me because I grew up
listening to a lot of this in the car with

(13:58):
my parents. But Fleetwood Macs been been a fan of them,
and I put them in the mix. But for great
American that's a great call that I didn't think of
them actually yeah, and I I'm with you on Radiohead
and I think their library of work now puts them
into it. People typically say, you know, uh audio files

(14:20):
like um like money, who are you know? Who know
the history? And everything else seemed to put the clash
Um way up there. London Calling seems like it's always
in the top two or three greatest records of all
time when people makes a bunch list, I mean, I
don't know that their body of work would require. And
also the Kinks too, we talked about them recently, but

(14:41):
that's British. I would say, since no one asked me,
I am gonna go out into the chipmunks one. No,
I'm gonna go um account as American? Right or do
they just belong to the woods the woodlands? Um? I
will say, it's weird what's become of R E M?

(15:03):
They've become what? What? When did things turn against them?
You know? It's strange. They were uber hip money. You
remember that you're I mean you're a little younger than
I am, but round about you know, life rich, pageant
and document and then people were kind of down on
green and but then they bounced back without a time

(15:24):
and automatic for the people. These are all great records,
and the ones that preceded those are all great that
I mean the lot then they get sideways as far
as I'm concerned with, was you know, a little bit
too much? Uh precious ukulele for my years or may
in the land or whatever, But not not the ukulele,
but R E M. Somehow people, the cools of the
twenty one century have turned against them. Is this? Uh?

(15:46):
Is this is my perception of reality money. I think
it's the old Billy Joel line. Right. I hope I
die before I get old, you know, I mean I
think uh that that you get old and it's it's
harder to write your sixth than your seventh and your
eighth album and a still be relevant and the still
make great music. It's just it's hard to do. I mean, hack,
look at the Eagles, right, did you ever hear the

(16:07):
their single from whatever the Health Freezes over toward Get
Over It? It's one of the worst songs I've ever heard.
It's absolutely horrible. It's like, not only is it just
good Eagle song, it's a terrible, terrible song. I don't
know what happens to bands. It is very odd. Uh.
Same thing with with the Stones, you know, and when
they were going back out on tour. My gosh, some
of those records are They're just terrible. Um, look at

(16:31):
Pearl Jam. It is crazy. It is how to get
it in. You know, it's not true, So I'm not
gonna give me to but oh god, you know you're
not gonna give me. You're not gonna get me to
take the bait, but you're not gonna get um. I

(16:56):
feel that, yes, that's also true. I always find that
speech is logic, that it's like, Hey, that guy was
in the writer's room on Seinfield, on Seinfeld, Let's give
him five million dollars to develop another sitcomm It's like,
are you are you sure that maybe everybody or a
lot of people don't just have one really good idea

(17:18):
and nothing behind it. Isn't that what they say about albums?
The second album is the hardest, wonders of the second
novel is the hardest one to write. You get your
whole life to write the first. And no one's gonna
call me on saying, Billy Joel, I hope I die
before I get old instead of the Who. By the way,
I screwed that one up. I was gonna gonna jump
in save me. What are you gonna say? I was

(17:39):
gonna work myself back to that. But but yes, we
also in our great bands of of British origin. Yeah
we left off Who. Man, oh man, that's disgraceful for America.
I I don't know why I'm so late to the
party on this one, but we we should as a
nation be ashamed of ourselves. The UK is relatively small

(18:00):
in comparison, and yet they've turned out way more high
end classic bands. I would say it's across the board.
Let's let's be honest, um, the UK is a juggernaut
compared to the US. Well, I mean, look, jazz is
infinitely superior to rock and roll, so on that front,
it's not even close. America destroys the uk UM. I mean,

(18:25):
you know, so when you're talking about rock and roll
being a derivative of jazz and blues, it's all derivative
of American artists. So you can have your your bastardization
of our really one true American invention. Jazz music is
American born, raised, bread spread across the world, specifically to Europe,
when all those musicians had to go to Paris because

(18:47):
they were no longer appreciated here and kind of re
established jazz over there, and then that then birthed kind
of this rock and roll movement, the British invasion. That
was all from American artists. So it's nice, it's cute
that you have Hank, but don't forget but but but
the autists had to go to Europe to be appreciated,
to then be the country they were appreciated here because

(19:09):
the mass that the American mass, the had no culture,
had no appreciation of Hank. Hank, don't come on, we're
not gonna do this, come on, I mean, it was appreciated.
It then gave gave birth to Elvis Pressley, and rock
and roll started seeing, you know, coming into fashion um

(19:31):
and obviously before Elvis you're talking about all the blues musicism,
is that he stole his music. I was just gonna say,
money isn't isn't that where it starts again? From our
shoes come the blues Robert Johnson at all. Then the
British take that and run with it in the sixties
at some point. So really it is our creation and
rock and roll. The British invasion is a sandwich between

(19:53):
our blues and our jazz. It's really kind of the
big payback for two d and fifty years ago. Everything
in the US starts starts over there and and ever
since you guys take our scraps like punk too, we
come up with punk. Then for some I don't know why.

(20:13):
I mean, that's a little that should make Americans read
in the face a little bit that they vibed more
to the clash and the sex pistols and they did
the Ramans. If my punk history is accurate, their money yeah, well,
you know, I mean the thing about the clash and
like one of the reasons why I think they get
in this conversation is kind of the way that they
amalgamated all these different genres, specifically, you know a lot

(20:35):
of reggae and and you think about the like that's
what's weird about the UK is like they have a vibrant,
like legitimate reggae scene. Um, it's it's really good and
really strong. And I think one of the great things
about the clashes they kind of took rock and punk
and reggae and sort of put into this pot and
it really inspired a lot of great artists, um in
each of those genres right to kind of grow out

(20:56):
of that the trunk of that. Right now, I sound
like a complete douche. I mean just no, I'll tell
you this. I'll hell PreTect you there. It looks like yeah, exactly,
he looks at Yeah, he looks like he just talked
about those uniforms already with right, said Fred. He just

(21:17):
stepped off. He just did ninety minutes on stage, and
now he's gonna hip us to what's going down in
the music scene. He's gotta he's gotta run the Kurt
Loder's waiting to talk to him for more. Ended all
that out. Spaghetti. God, that was terrible. No, I'll tell
you this. Here's here's a hipster take from from Vain Dave,
Bob Marley and um and all reagae. It's kind of

(21:39):
like by the time the mainstream seeks its sinks its
teeth into it, legend is great. Great listen, you know,
breezy summertime music and uh and chill out music and
so on. But um, the dance hall stuff is the best.
I mean that that before Bob Marley really makes it big.
That's that's the grandest sound of Marley there is. Yes, handsome, Yeah,

(22:02):
I agree with that. I mean I'm a huge reggae fan. Um,
so you know it's yeah, from the start of the
you know Scar before that and then all the way
through the rock Steady era and Molly and everyone else.
Huge fan. Um, all right, I just wanted to see
if we could figure it out there. Oh by the way, yeah,
another one we're leaving out is that James Brown, Right, Yeah,

(22:26):
I mean the but again, like I think what happens
is we get into you know it should you know.
I Look, I was just being a jerk to Hank
there is you know. Look, the British invasion was was
kind of the most meaningful sort of moment of rock
and roll, you know, if you could, but you can argue.
But then again, it's like is Elvis Presley. It's such
a stupid argument. I don't know what the hell to say.
You know, Fleetwood, Matt and make your pick. You know

(22:48):
they're all great, everybody's everybody's right in these conversations. Whatever,
All right, you wanta Okay, fine, Monny, have it your away.
Let's let's pour through the Jacksonville Jaguar. How many wins
you're gonna have? Yeah, now, spaghetti, you're not gonna I'm sorry. Yeah,
I kind of moved on there too quickly. I wanted
to get your thoughts here. My assumption is you're going

(23:09):
better in the Boys. No, if you if if Bruce
is a legitimate pick, if it's not, if it's considered
a rock band because of the East band, I'm going
to pick Bruce, but I don't. But I know Hank
is area. That's right, said, like Bruce and Petty don't
really count because he doesn't say it wasn't like as
collaborative as never. It makes no sense. You know, bruches

(23:29):
rock and roll, Dylan's rock and roll, Prince's rock and
roll by the way, I might put Prince in there. Well,
that's where I started. No conversation was what I saw.
Spaghetti said Jersey there and forgot that they included Yes,
that that that's a that's a contender that they might
be able to knock off. You might. You might have
a shot at knocking off one of those those big

(23:50):
four with Prince, if you really get into the catalog
and think about it. The thing is, it's a little
bit for me. I this is obviously my personal experience.
I can't speak for you. But but same thing with Rush,
I get it, you know. Or it's also like, uh, um,

(24:14):
what was her name? The woman who is the universal
universally No, no, no, I was trying to make an
analogy with with physical beauty the woman who, um she
was I for the Italian woman. No, the Italian Isabella Rosaline.

(24:35):
Thank you for saving me. I would that would have
taken nine minutes at least for me to figure that
one out. And no, I would not have moved on
until we solved it as a group. Yes, everybody holds
her up. I can understand that aesthetically she's attractive, but
she's not attractive to me. Rush I get it technically,
Oh you listen, so Neil perd oh, I gotta like, No,
it doesn't do anything for me, doesn't hit me in

(24:56):
the guts. So I don't care um about that at
and um that's a Prince does hit me in the gut.
But I don't find myself ever. It's kind of like doughnuts.
I like them, like we talked about last week. I
like Prince, but I don't find myself listening to him
more than once or twice a year. Am I wrong

(25:16):
about that? Do you list Do you sit around listening
to Prince records? I would just kind of go back
to your your initial band that you brought up. Like
if you told me I could have the R. E. M.
Catalog or the Prince catalog, it takes me less than
a second to just grab that giant stack of Prince
records and and go with that. Yeah oh yeah, yeah,
like the early stuff. It's it's fantastic, you know, even

(25:39):
before you know Purple Rain or you know, you're talking
about three or four albums that just technically he's great.
He's a brilliant songwriter. Um, but again I don't know, like,
what do you have to have a uh, stopping, stopping.
You know, do you you talk about something about I
don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want
it to sound like that, you know what I mean, Like,
I don't do you have that hits? Like does it

(26:00):
have to be popular? Is that like part of the criteria,
Like oh, you can't really kind of get into if
we start getting into deep tracks, then people are gonna
come with, oh god it buy voices or something like that,
or like do you have to do you have to
have some sort of stronghold and popular culture, like at
one point you had to be one of the three
or four most popular bands in your country or in
the world, because I think that's kind of an important

(26:21):
part of it, right that you were able to appeal
to the masses and not just right really cool, critically
acclaimed you know music, but have that special gift of
writing hooks and writing songs that people want to listen
to sixty years after they've been written. I think that
probably has to come into the conversation as well. It
sounds a bit like the whole of fame or not

(26:42):
just you know, it's going to be stats and winds
and longevity, you know, everything the combination of things. Well,
I guess it comes down to all things that have
to do with taste. It's a little bit like the
old George Carlin joke is something about how people drive,
Like if people drive faster than you, they're jerks, and
if they drive slow or than you, their a hole
kind of thing. It's like, my taste is my taste

(27:04):
is just right. Yes, it respects um technical proficiency and
uh and and the history, but it also it also
moves you, you know it also it also hits you
in the gut a little bit. And then I bemol
people who are too in the Dave Matthews band, you
know kind of thing like that's that's beneath the standard
there again, So you're not gonna try to make a

(27:26):
case here for Pearl Jam because some of your pals
on the social media jumped on me when I mentioned
a couple of options there. No, they said, how can
you not go better? They I read through the hangers
area threatened. They were mentioned enough, So I'm not gonna
go to back for them. I think my answer really
would be Bruce. I saw Bruce play four hours and
twelve minutes once. I mean in terms of like his

(27:47):
catalog and his mass appeal and his like live show.
I mean that's really to me, those are the most
important things, and it's it's there's no other live show
like it. I've seen seventy five year old men dance
and of g a pit um. To me, he's incredible,
and uh I, I could listen to it pretty much
any of his albums from back to front, and uh,

(28:09):
I think he is the answer if he has qualified.
I feel that I am. I've never seen Bruce Springsteen,
but I know myself well enough to know that I
think I could get bored. I mean, how about like
all right, I like to me, how about four hours?
About like that? That's way more than a football game.
Let's wrap it up here. The Giant Party, I'm been

(28:31):
telling you like it was. It was awesome, it was amazing.
I was at MetLife stating it was absolutely it was. Actually.
Speaking of Purple Rain, I saw him once in Barkley's
when he opened up with her part when Prince passed,
And uh I remember that show specifically because me and
my dad stole boxes of popcorn, ate the popcorn, and
then there was a sushi table that we just took
a handfuls of sushi and threw him the popcorn box.

(28:53):
And as the show is starting, this is from the
forty club inside Barkley's. We ran back to our seats
like in the last row. During the river tour, um
not the original river, for the one down to the
river that was one of the him opening up with
Purple Rain. The whole crowds pur never danced so hard
to a song about death, despair and poverty. Let's go well,

(29:18):
that tour was amazing. I'm saying, open Purple Rain, We're
eating sushi, had of a popcorn box. It was, it
was incredible. Me and I had a great time. We
um we we. I had the occasion a few months
ago to go on a twister daytime Twister with with
the Spaghetti's and with Jade. It was. It was a
grand time to get to see Staten Island zoned and
and hear the the origin story of our superhero Spaghetti.

(29:41):
Um quickly Spaghetti, how was the birthday? I had some
great food of this week and I went and got
some brisk it down in Huntington's Park and raised Texas barbecue.
His story is great. You've ever a chance to go
over there? And drive and I you know what, drive
now because driving around Laze been awesome. Uh. The one
positive I guess of this pandemic is getting around play races,
because I would never go to Huntington Park if it

(30:02):
wasn't for this, because it was taking over an hour.
M amazing brisket like as good as I have it
in Austin, and then drove up the coast a bit
just to see the water was great. And then I
had East Boys bagel sandwiches. I have not had a
bagel since moving out here, so it's been four years.
I just I just figured that, you know, it's not
gonna happen in l A, like it's a New York thing.

(30:23):
And these guys they did it. And I went over
to Silver Leg I got a bagel sandwich. Actually they
threw in an extra one by accident, so I had
one of the bagel sandwiches, and uh, it was good.
It was really good. I gained two and a half
pounds over the weekend, but well, well worth it. It was.
It was good. It was really as good as a
quarantine birthday as you're good have. Well you've never looked

(30:44):
at it that much as that much, just clear take
up your hat. Do you really want to see it? Yeah?
Oh yeah, I want to see it right. Oh, it's
so good. You kept it like that. You did that,
wasn't I was maybe like halfway through the cut and
then you're gonna you're gonna finish it off. But no

(31:06):
money tweeted, I mean to do a taxi driver and
I wanted to do that, and Jady was like, you
live your whole life with the full military. He was awful.
I've done mohawk twice. She's like, that's awful. So it's like,
just keep it along the top. It'll be easy to
grow back wear hats every day. So that's what I'm doing.
It's you know, no, no, no, please go mohawk for us,
would you? Let's do it now? Come on. Fats Holmes,

(31:37):
the old defensive tackle for the Steelers. He went the
extra mile and he turned his mohawk into an arrow.
Do that? Do it right now? Get Jade to do it.
And also if you could do it, because people always
use the middle mohawk, can you just bring it over
to one side, like, let's get a non aligned mohawk.
Maybe letting a ram horn. That was bail today. You know,

(32:00):
it's like a cur little curved ram horm, you know,
an homage to the new uniforms. Yeah, I see you
chuckling spaghetti. I don't see uh, Colin Jade, and come up.
If I do that, I may be a single man
by next episode. Come on, do it for real? And uh?
And the money brings up to the uniforms, not once,

(32:24):
but twice. Let's dig in on those. I do want
to say, though, very quickly before I forget. I think
you're right because I think two weeks ago, three weeks ago, money,
I expressed my skepticism that any of these professional sports
leagues obviously incented the sports fans of Sports America or
chomping at the bid for anything, give us any sports

(32:46):
and we will watch them. And you said, I think
that the leagues will be able to compel the players,
like this is an act of patriotism on some on
some level to go out there. And I think you're
It's when I'm wrong. I say I'm wrong like Jerry Orba,
and I think that I might be wrong about this
one because Lebron and it seems like the majority of
baseball players and everybody are anxious to actually get out

(33:09):
there I don't know if they're going to. I feel
like major League Baseball in the landscape as it is
here two decades into the twenty one century, baseball has
slipped considerably in terms of import to to our society
as the NBA has um gone up a little bit
and other distractions everything. This is a golden opportunity for

(33:32):
baseball if baseball would just get out there in about
two three weeks and get going, when people would obsess
over it. And I I completely get where the players
are coming from on this. I am almost always pro
player on this one. I just feel like, um, that
the that the sport is losing out here because they

(33:53):
could have the full attention for the first time, um
in a spring and forever if they would just get
out there. And I think that goes for you know,
you know, multiply it, you know, ten times over for
golf and tennis. Right. You know, we've talked about that
about golf courses are open now here in southern California.

(34:14):
You know, you can't you can't practice on the range,
can't take the flagstick out, you can't break the bunker.
You gotta keep apart from everybody. So they figured it
out at least we hope they have, you know, and
I hope everybody stays safe and does what they're supposed
to be doing out there. But I would think if
they figured it out, you assume the pros can can
do that as well, and then they're going to starting
in June. But um, yeah, I'm with you. I I

(34:35):
think it's it's encouraging that the players, you know, are
are are anxious to get back and understand the you know,
what what sports mean to to us here. We've said
it on this podcast repeatedly, and hopefully that will be
the case. You know. It's interesting because you have, you know,
a governor where we're doing this from that's basically said, look,
we got to play this thing super super safe and
nothing's going to be open for a while. And then

(34:57):
you go to the state right next door in Arizona,
and they're like, we're good, uh sports starting on fift
let's let's make it happen. So I don't know how
you put all that together, how those those pieces fit
in the puzzle, but it will be interesting. I think
over the next by the time we're doing this next week,
I think things will have dramatically changed, will have I
think you know, are are I think you are absolutely

(35:20):
right that. I guess that the news in general, the
media in general is loth to sort of get into predictions.
I guess at least, or at least that's how they
perceived themselves, despite the fact that they uh do predictive
stuff all the time anyway, but I think they don't
want to wear that. But I think you're exactly right. Money.

(35:42):
I don't know if it's a week, but yeah, it's
essentially you have this side by side. I don't know
who's the control group and which is the other. I
forget my the science lessons that I learned forty years ago.
But um, yeah, that's right. I mean, is Arizona gonna spike?
If it does, and we'll see, now we got to
do with the way California is. If it doesn't, thember

(36:02):
is gonna be like, let's go, let's start playing ball, right,
I mean that seems like that's how simple it will be.
Um handsome Hank, what do you think of um the
what what do you think about pro football? And the
assume that no, I I know it's personally hurts you

(36:24):
a little professional, I should say, since you do so
much work around the international games those being canceled. Do
you think that there is a plan that can be
conjured if let's say California says we're out, we can't,
we can't host pro football games in do you think
that they go with centralized locations football games. Yeah, I
mean I guess that that's you know, one of the

(36:46):
contingent seasons being explored on the on the international side,
it makes sense, right, It's it's hard enough to put
together a schedule without you know, in this in this situation,
without um trying to factor in quarantines for people arriving
in new country and certainly like playing an empty stadiums
in the UK, that doesn't definitely doesn't make sense. UM.
So so that was not surprising. But yeah, I would say,

(37:08):
you know, with regards to states, here are their teams
that could potentially share stadiums. UM, could the could the
charges somehow in a world gun playing Arizona play in
Las Vegas? That that that seems to control to be explored.
But you'd have to control legitimately. I'm the fans in

(37:30):
general don't care, would be like whatever, whatever the details,
just give us football games, right, But competitively you would
have to solve the home field advantage thing no one could.
You couldn't have. I mean, it would have to be
if there's no fans, and it really should be I think,

(37:50):
is not having to travel there, right, That's the advantage
you have is you don't have to get on a
plane and do all that stuff. So if a team,
let's say that the Charges ended up playing in Arizona
for the sake of dogument, if everyone, if that whole
team therefore had to move train practice in in Arizona,
then that home field advantage is they wake up on
Sunday morning and they are playing in a stadium that

(38:12):
they drive to and the other team has had to
fly into. And who knows what flying is enough of
a pain for for an NFL team already, And who
knows what the new world will bring us with travel
um and whether that becomes even more complicated even with
the charter flights that teams take. Well, hopefully come autumn

(38:33):
there will be Pro Football Times two in Los Angeles
and the brand new, shiny stadium. There one thing I
am assuming, but feel free to tell me I'm wrong
about this one, any of the three of you. We
know that the Chargers are going to be the better
looking squad out there thanks to their powder blue get
ups versus what was unveiled on Wednesday this week, the

(38:58):
new l a Rams. I'm gonna start with you handsome,
because money, you know, is a little in the bag,
of course, I'm gonna start with I'm gonna go with
you here, and what do you think? I think I
have a couple of takes, and this is more like
we're now at the end of the uniform unveilings for
a bunch of whatever six seven teams change uniforms. So

(39:21):
my take is as much about the whole process as
it is about the Rams in particular. First of all,
in the Rams, like the the you know they got
went back to old, the old colors, but they didn't
really fully embrace the idea of going back to in history,
to the to the you know what looked great in
the eighties. I think they could have just done that,

(39:41):
and I think everyone would have come away from that
feeling pretty happy and that that certainly was sort of
the rest. It was just made the help right, Just
make the helmet that color that you've made it now
so that it matches the royal blue jersey and everybody,
and you probably you probably would have been good exactly
that said, you know, I don't, I don't hate those
color is together. I think I think they're fine. I

(40:02):
do feel like the way that these uniforms, and so,
just moving more broadly to two takes number one. The
way that the uniforms look that it feels like they're
they're kind of for superheroes or something like it. They
don't look like football uniforms anymore. And this may just
be when they're presented as new uniforms, it looks like
a sort of superheroes outfits kind of been sprayed on.

(40:22):
I want to see like it's all very well, unveiling
them with wide receivers and cornerbacks and safeties wearing the uniforms.
If I when I unveil my new uniform it's gonna
be with offensive linemen and defensive linemen. I want fat
guys wearing the uniforms, because that's really what you see.
The bulk of that's the most of the team is
not is not like a you know, a skinny little guy.
They're mostly Eddie's build um, And so I want to see, like,

(40:46):
how does this look with some curves and some bulges. Um.
And and that's never ever how they're unveiled. Um. And
that's ms Eddie spaghetti walk in the walk in the runway,
new model for all uniforms. That's actually that new fancy
haircats future. And it'll think me from ordering from Chinese

(41:07):
wholesale sites too. I just give them the actual time. Yeah,
you got them exact symmetrical asymmetrical mohawk there. That would
be great spaghetti. Um. Matt money Smith, your thoughts, well,
I'm not a fan. I think uh, I think you
hit it on the head. I thought, you know, the
the RAMS uniforms of the eighties are in the conversation

(41:29):
is is the greatest uniforms in in the NFL, and
all the ages of the NFL are beautiful. Um. And
I think you could have just kind of updated that
particular uniform and and been fine. Uh. Instead you kind
of have this, Well, we're we're in l A. So
see how our numbers look like a sunset on the sand.
Isn't that cool? No? No, it's not cool. Make them

(41:51):
make them the gold that they've always been and put
them on a royal blue jersey. I don't understand why
they felt the need to have the numbers look kind
of like a ram horn. That seems like that's going
a little too far. Um. They're incongruous with the font
is not congruous with the font on the side. On
the sleeve, the numbers are two different fonts. It's very weird. Um.

(42:14):
And and the piping looks weird. It looks it just
looks like it's out of place. UM. I don't know.
I'm just not really a fan, and I had a
feeling I wasn't gonna be a fan after I saw
the logo and they decided that was a good idea.
I was like, God, this was so easy. Just update
the old ones, because you've already got some of the
best uniforms of all time in the NFL. What is

(42:35):
the I mean? I like the I like the gradient effect,
the rainbow of the Denver nuggets. I like that the
I like the Pelicans that you know. I I like
the um what is it? The purple green and yellow
that they wear. I like the Steelers bumblebees. I like those.
I like kind of broad striping like that. The gradient

(42:57):
on the numbers, though, is unappealing. Maybe it's the pallor
of yellow than it is it doesn't work, whatever it is.
And then the then the road uniforms that got stuck
in the wash with a pair of new black sox.
What is it? What is that? What is the thing of?
Like if they're not they're not white? Well are they gray? Yeah?

(43:17):
They're just dingy? You know why? It looks like that?
Looks like that like a kid's a y s oh
soccer team where one mother was sent home with all
the jerseys and they were white, and then there was
an accident and they have to persuade the kids that
actually this was the intentional alone. It's also a little
bit like we're talking about with Neil Perk or that

(43:38):
I was trying to make the point about Neil Perk. Okay,
the nuance of of of how technically sound he is great,
but um, it's the same thing like, well, now, so
you have to learn why if you look at the numbers,
why they have that little darker thread in them, because
that's an homage to Los Angeles. I don't care what

(44:00):
what just does it move me or not? What the
hell do I care about? What the what the backstory is? Yeah,
I can't see it on my TV. I don't I
don't care unless I'm wearing it. It's it's it's weird
and it it misses the mark for me. Maybe they
sell more as a result, Maybe that's the goal, but um,
just to my eye watching it, it's how it pairs
with whoever they're on the field with. It reminds me

(44:23):
very much like the overly elaborate uniforms like that are
a distraction and they don't jibe with whoever they're playing against,
in the same way that the ubiquitous pizza box that
you get um with. The one guy looks like a
heavy set Italian guy with a mustache in the foreground,
he's kind of paunchy and he's delivering a pizza. But

(44:44):
then the guy working the stove right behind him is
a cartoon character who kind of looks like Beaker from
from the Muppets. It's like, what the hell are those
two guys doing on in the same kitchen? Same thing?
Whoever the Rams play, it's gonna be like the same
thing is watching the Jags and those weird melted rollo
candy hats that they were wearing the same thing. It's like,

(45:06):
why how did those two wind up on the same field.
They don't look right together to see. That's the favor
you do with a good uniform for whoever you're playing.
The one thing we have to wait for um and
hopefully to your point earlier day, we will get to
see it. This fall is in a new stadium, like
part of the part of the attraction, like the forty
nine is in Candlestick Pocket was always about how the

(45:27):
sun hit the field, and it's definitely was the same
at the Colosseum as well, how the sun hits the
field with those uniforms like that, the mix of that
on TV. We'll have to see in Englewood. You know,
what's what's what's the light? Like, how do those uniforms
look in that light? Because that that's gonna be key
to this whole thing. That's why you're gonna see them
the most. Well actually walking around to lay the most,

(45:51):
you know, at least that's it's like just a person
wearing not the you know, elastic on the sides, you know,
sort of tank tops, sort of muscle shirt. Now you're
gonna see the replicas with the with the stripes on
the side and the weird numbers on the side. Yeah,
so it's like, I don't know, I don't think I
would have been so well, actually I probably would have
still found them, um, not to be that attractive. But

(46:12):
just the way they rolled out that logo with the
Fibonacci sequence and the years of research and this is
what went into it, whatever you said it, Dave, Like,
just the logo is terrible. The l A logo is
just awful. Um. And so maybe because the uniforms aren't
as bad as that logo, like everything since then has
been has been a little bit better. I don't I

(46:35):
don't mind the helmet, but I think you hit it
on the head, like why is the helmet this crazy
metallic when it's not really going to match the uniform? Now,
it's just I don't Can we rank the seven teams
that changed? Can we just quickly? We didn't play show
and let's do individud not set well, I to do

(46:55):
single uniform. I will start it by going, and it's
a close one. It's the all white Chargers get ups,
followed very closely by the powder blue with the white
pants of the Chargers. Those are my one and uh

(47:15):
and two. That's win and place. And then I guess,
unless I'm forgetting you know what, I'd go Browns um
their return to um their classic. I like the home
brown always more than the all white. So I'll make
that my show out of my two three there, I
think if I mean, if we're doing individual ones, then

(47:36):
my Wind place show old Charges uniforms minus the Charges
blue with the yellow pants as the wind, the blue
and white as the show and sorry as the place,
and then the Charge is royal blue as the show.
But if we if we're going judging my team charges

(47:57):
A one, I would agree that I think it's a
probably are probably too um. I don't know. I think
the mean the Colts didn't really do very much. More
interesting is what's the worst is that the Patriots is
that the Falcons is at the rams. I think those
are probably the bottom three, right. I would assume the

(48:17):
Bucks are in the middle there with the you know,
I think the Browns, like you said, are up there
with the Chargers. But I feel like a missing who
am I missing? I think the Bucks the cults. The
cults made some I'm not even sure that should be included.
I think that I think that the Falcons are probably
the loses on this one, unless they just look at
what everyone has said and say you know what that

(48:38):
one throwback uniform included in there. Let's just wet out
all the time. Yeah, but it's a little bit like
you get held higher standard. You're a victim of your
past success. It's shack getting swept by a team. It
looms larger. Uh. That's that is in my mind, Matt
money Smith and that the that that Orlando Magic. I

(49:03):
have to take a quick detour because I want to
wrap it up here, but I had to say quickly
about the last dance got swept. That's right, that's right.
Well with that first of all, not only am I
more resolute than ever that a Keen and company would
have beaten the bulls the Orlando Magic. Talk about the

(49:27):
things that broke just right in Michael Jordan's professional basketball career,
that he retires just when, and they played stiff competition
in all six of those title rounds. The worst matchup
for them would have still been the Houston Rockets. Another
terrible matchup for them was the Orlando Magic. And this

(49:49):
jive talk about like how history just allows people some people,
some people get away with everything, other people everything gets
poured over. Michael Jordan's this thing of like why wasn't
in bass ketball shape? So why whether that? What does
that mean? You weren't out drinking in bars for a
year and a half, you were playing professional sports man,
you were playing baseball. That's better than as compared by comparison,

(50:12):
Ted Williams flying missions. Uh goodness knows why Mary you
being this thing about, like, why wasn't in basketball shape?
You played before you got to that series against the
Magic the reason the Bulls lost. The premise of the
argument is at this point and always has been, is
oh well, yeah, yeah, well what were they supposed to do?
Jordan's wasn't in basketball? Wasn't it basketball shape? Like twenty games?

(50:36):
It's baseball game? And how they played a quarter of
an NBA season before the Magic Show. You're running up
and down a basketball court, Dave for two minutes. It's
totally different baseball. He's working on his swing, You're you're
running sprints for ninety feet at a time. There's no
cardiovascular in baseball. You don't have to kind of may
be in a perpetual state of motion in the outfield.

(50:58):
The guy was working on us when he came out
of that, he became a retirement on a Thursday and
hit the court on a Saturday. That would be a
viable excuse. He played for two months before the match.
He played for one month before the playoffs started. One
month he gets to to get back in. It's not

(51:20):
like he's and by the way, he's not walking onto
a local y M C. A. Cord. He's going in
the NBA against the greatest players on earth. It's not
like or not like Bo Jackson went from baseball into
pro football. What's a more rugged transition? Uh, maryel Lemie
got off the chemo table and went out and played hockey,

(51:42):
and and and they all three of those examples all thrived.
What's Jordan's And by the way, Jordan was great that
year too, a little less great than he typically was,
but he was great. The reason they lost that he
had a few He had a few good games. He
had a few good of his I don't know what
he had if if you go back and look through
the game logs, you'll see that of the seventeen games

(52:03):
he played, there's maybe three to five that he was
really really good. Otherwise he was in Affin Grant motivated.
Horace Grant and Shack Fu were too much for Michael
Jordan's in basketball shape and the other guys he was
out there with, there was no Dennis Rodman. And in
to answer your question, by the way, um Nick Anderson

(52:25):
gets hurt, Horace Grant gets hurt in the first game,
so that eliminates an advantage that they might have had.
And that you add Dennis Rodman to the Bulls. Well,
of course, then that explains the difference. So what team
is playing? And that's what I'm trying to figure out,
Like because if Mike, because your your premises, Michael never retires,
he loses to the Rockets. So but but what's the team?

(52:46):
I mean, it's not like that the team is different,
it will look different. It's it's Michael playing with Tony
Kok coach for an entire season. It's it's you know,
him being able to share his wisdom in part his
his his you know, competitiveness into this guy who was
was such a crafty and brilliant offensive player in in
Europe but didn't quite kind of figure out the NBA. Yeah,

(53:07):
I think there's so many. That's why it's so hard
to play those hypotheticals, you know, and remember real quick though, Dave, Like,
my biggest hypothetically is We're never dominating. They were never
a dominant team. They never ran rough shot over the West.
You know that year, what were they six seed? You're

(53:27):
telling me right now that a team that was a
six seed over the course of an eight two game
season was somehow going to be the juggernaut that knocked
off Jordan. No, come on, that happens in NBA and hockey,
that that happens a fair amount. He's different. Hockey is
a hot goalie. That's why an eighth seed can win,
you know that. I'm just saying that. I don't know

(53:49):
if that were they really a six seed. I know
that they fell off considerably after the title, But then again,
that can be explained away by the transition from Modus
Thorpe to Clyde Drexler that maybe they dipped a bit there.
I I will have to pour over that anyway. UM.
I think again, the Orlando Magic, this the retirement sets

(54:10):
up and benefits Jordan's so much. Um. And it's kind
of weird because the whole thing about the uber competitor,
he is the ultimate competitor in their vision. Dave third
in their division at forty seven and thirty five. That's
what I'm back on that would be is look at
look look at the Titanic teams that were in the
West at that point too, chas Barkley's sons. Here come

(54:34):
the Sonics and the push. They got pushed the five
games in the first round they won three, two over
the Jazz. They got pushed the seven games. In the
second round they won four or three over the Suns,
and then they got pushed the six games. They weren't dominant.
Like the matchup makes the fight. Match up makes the fight,

(54:55):
and that would be a matchup for a keen that
the matchup, and you know me, apparently Bob or Bob
Borey thinks that what guess I think Grant also feels
that that that's the case. Anyway, listen, delightful conversation is

(55:16):
always there, Spaghetti. You know I'm right, you can just
not right. I think after watching it, I realized how
great the Bulls teams really are, because you always said
those teams that Bulls played weren't that good. But like
the Barkley Sons, the Sonics are awesome. There are a
lot of really good West teams that I thought your
whole thing. Patson misses that shot in six the Sun's

(55:38):
winning game seven. Oh God, that's all right, my mistake.
I thought that's what I was your one of your takes.
I don't know, for a guy that spent formative years
and some of the most happy years of his life
in Chicago, you really do like the crap all over
their sports teams regularly? No, I do not, Yes, you do, yes,

(55:58):
you do. Your little hype of edical for the Bears.
They're hypothetical for the Bulls, like everything is just one
giant crap fest all over that city. I don't think
there's a more significant to happen. If the Dolphins would
have knocked off the Patriot, if Jordan would have never retired,
team would have ate his he in his sixth place,

(56:20):
his six seed Rockets that were pushed to a to
an elimination game, and each of their first two series,
they would have eight the greatest player in in team
sports history for lunch, Michael Jordan, two three couple man

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and Walter Payton's I think I rejoiced with all of
Chicago on the North Side when Paxton hit his shot
and Steve Kerr hit his And if if he lost
in seven and he didn't hit that Showers I as

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gonna say the Steelers would have lost the Chargers had
had they survived the Oilers in seventy nine. I'm I'm
an equal opportunity a little bit. Don't give us the
one little scrap that permits you to give us all
the other crap. That's all that is. It's like, you
know what I'm gonna. I'm gonna put this out there
just so I can say everything else and get away
with it. That's my Those those counts, my bona fides

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and handsome those There's no bigger result in pro football
history in a single game that alters our perception of
things than the five a f C title game in
the Rainy Orange Ball. If Marino wins that one, he
goes to the super Dome, he beats the greatest defense,
the single season defense um this side of the Steel

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Curtain of the twenty century, and he is held up
by the time that y two K arrived. Stay in
Marino is unquestioned. It's the greatest quarterback in pro football history.
But that's not the way it went. And Michael Jordan
is considered the best basketball player of all time? Is
he a jerk? That's a conversation for another past seems
like it's necessary to be I don't think that. Another

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question for another time. What you don't have to be
a jerk? I don't think so. I mean, I think
you have to be a little cutthroat right to get
all the way to the top. But I don't know
if you've got to be a jerk where someone hands
you you know, your thing, and you're like, oh, Garrett
Garrick Peyton, It's like, yeah, easy, Mike. He got you
in that in that fifth game where you ever were

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you ever in danger of losing the series? No, but
he played you pretty damn well and he had a
pretty damn good game. At least you can acknowledge that
it's not that big of a deal knocking a punch
in six to U Scrawnye, Steve Kerr, that's a Jerry Krause.
What a tough guy? What? What? What a bully if
there ever was one? Um? But funny, did you ever

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take a swing at uh and Horace Grant? There? Mike
we Ever reprimand him? Charles Oakley, go ahead, thank your
shot there, toughy Um? All right, listen, a gay conversation
is always handsome. I see Ronnie looming in the background.
Please happening in the background here, let him. Let let

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Ronnie know. I'm happy that he's got the number one.
You've you've purchased him the number one in aqua. He
actually is us for number one. Jesse. Um, he's gonna
have to earn that with with some better behavior. Tough Holse.
He doesn't get the logo on the side of the
helmet until he earns it exactly. It was like that

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was like a Hugh Jackson thing. So you may want
to reconsider that. You guys are not going to get
the stripes on your helmets. I have taken them off.
Thanks you, thanks so much. Straight alright, So for Handsome
Hank and Form and fred Dave, good times fellas as always.

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Uh Jay say um and uh and we'll kibbits sooner
rather than later. So four Handsome Hank, Matt money Smith,
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every day for you. The least you can do is
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Thanks so much. Football fans will talk to you soon.

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It's been a thin slice of heaven't