NFL Network Insiders Tom Pelissero and Ian Rapoport give you updates on the statuses of Falcons QB Michael Penix Jr. and Steelers QB Aaron Rodgers along with a discussion about Shedeur Sanders' first regular season action for the Browns. Bridget Condon joins the show to recap the Rams beating the Seahawks to take sole position of first place in the NFC West and the 49ers beating the Cardinals in Brock Purdy's first game back from injury.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome Inside with the Insiders, a Monday podcast edition alongside
Ian Rapaport, I'm Tom Pelaicero. For those of you who
are loyal viewers of The Insiders Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays
on NFL Network, Monday show a little bit different. It's
in this case it's me and Ian. We're a little
more casual. We are approaching this slightly differently, but we're
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still giving you all the news, all the inside talking
about all the games from Sunday in the NFL. If
you are tuning to the podcast, it's in two parts.
If you're watching on YouTube the NFL channel, just stay tuned.
We had everything you need right here. Let's start out
Ian with some injury updates, including in Atlanta, where you've
seen over the last five weeks. Here this move for
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the season, move from promising to Oho to yesterday, it
seemed like bordering on disaster, not just with the fifth
straight loss, not getting swept by the Pain, but also
injuries to both their quarterback Michael Pennix Junior the wide
receiver Drake London. Tell me the latest on those injuries.
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Starting out with Pennix, who we are not going to
see again. For a while here.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So first of all, in the Michael Pennock situation, we
knew last night it was not good anytime you have
a reaggravation of their previous injury. As we learned with
Rock Purdy, that term generally means you're out as long
or probably longer.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
This time it's going to be longer. Michael Pennick was
placed on injured reserve.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
He has out the next four games, which means he
is out till at least in mid December. We are
also getting to the time of year when basically every
injury that knocks you out for a while is either
out for the season or back for the playoffs. The
Eagles have one that's back for the playoffs. We'll talk
about that in a second, but this seems to be
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one where for the Atlanta Falcons, out for the next
four weeks could mean out for the rest of the season.
So it is a aggravation of the bone bruise and knee sprain.
There is also damage to the ACL. Now, when every
year there's like one or maybe two ACL sprains, it's
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very rare, but they do exist, and so if you
have an ACL sprain, which is basically a partial tear.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
It is a partial tear. Just to clarify any it
is a partial taar. Yes, that's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's the same thing. But sometimes you can rehab, but
most of the time, eventually a full reconstruction is needed.
And that's why when the Falcons say they're doing more
tests on Michael Pennix, those are the tests.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They know he's going to miss four games.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
They don't know if it's going to be full reconstructive
knee surgery, which would be his third, the first on
this knee, but his third overall. So Kirk Cousins, who's
making twenty seven million dollars this year to be a
backup quarterback that is coming in really looked pretty bad.
He now has to save their season. He has to
do it without Drake London. London is out this big
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with the PCL sprain. My understanding is that he could
miss additional weeks as well. These are bad injuries, and
I'm not saying this one in particulars bad. I'm just
saying every receiver has had one, from Puka Nakua, Ricky pearsall,
there's been several of them. They all come back at
a much longer time frame than initially anticipated. So if
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you're a Falcons fan and you're listening to this right now,
it's all bad.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's all bad.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And this is, you know, within the broader picture here,
it creates or adds to a variety of different questions
about the Falcons into twenty twenty six. Again, this was
very much treated as a we are in to be
a playoff team in twenty twenty five. Fell short last year,
but this is where you're taking a stride forward, and
every move they made to fortify, whether it was with veterans,
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whether it was in the draft, creating next year's first
round pick to the Rams to get a second pass
rusher in James Pierce after taking Jalen Walker already in
the first round. Now, all of a sudden, that pick
what you were thinking, we're gonna make the playoffs, it's
gonna be in the twenties. That could be a top
ten pick, that would be potentially ammunition to get a
quarterback for one of your other major needs. And when
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it comes to the quarterback position, nav a guy and Michael
Pennick Junior, who, as you said ian had torn his
right acl retore it in college, had actually been healthy
for several years now a left knee injury that potentially
could involve a full reconstruction as well. It does create
and again add to the questions already existed of with
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all the resources they put in the quarterback position, do
they have a quarterback in Atlanta? Because if Kirk Cousins
at this point, let's say, even if Kirk plays well
down the stretch here, he's due another I believe forty
million next year. Only ten million is guaranteed. It's hard
to imagine never say never, because they kept him this
year when everyone thought they were going to cut him
or trade him. But it's hard to imagine you're bringing
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him back once again. And then in terms of Michael Pennix,
he's potentially looking at a lengthy rehab, missing time into
next off season. And you also have to go a
guy who's in a history of knee injuries now has
another one. It just it creates so many different layers
to this. Obviously, there will be fair questions raised about
the organizational direction and who is guiding this team into
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twenty twenty six. And I would also add this as well,
when you talk about the partial ACL tear, there is
a history of players trying to rehab that it doesn't
often end well. The most notable example I can remember
for a quarterback in recent years was Ryan Tannehill partially
toward his ACL. I think it was in twenty seventeen.
Came back because the j Cutler year, laz here, Yeah,
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you would have been twenty when.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You turned Jake Cutler into a dolphin. The best meme ever.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That one still pops up every now and then.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Jay Cutler is now a dolphin.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I said, the Jay Cutler has passed his physical and
is now officially a dolphin, which people sent me South
Park memes for a long period of time after that.
But Tannehill had torn his ACL in twenty sixteen, rehabbed.
It was a partial tear. He rehabbed it, told me,
you know, sitting there on on the practice field an
NFL network with an interview, he was feeling great, and
like two days later he tore it the rest of
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the way. So it's a matter of what There's a
lot of medical stuff here that you and I are
not the experts on here. But again, these are all
the broader questions surrounding the team that oh yeah, has
to make a decision on paying b. John Robinson. Has
Kyle pitts now potentially edit toward free agency?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Are you paying?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Crowds?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Missing the block on that led to Michael Pennock's being
injured did not help.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I'm just gonna five five years of Kyle pitt you
get flashes and then but ever since his mcl injury,
which is another weird injury that there's just these are
the things like we talk about everything. It's like these
isolated news stories, but they all fit together. And right
now the Falcons are in the eye of the storm.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Mean yeah, and you know I would say, I would
say where they go from here? Like, look, it's been
a bad season, and even if Michael Pennix was injured today,
I'm sorry, Even if Michael Pennis was not injured today,
it's a long road ahead to get the Falcons back
to the playoffs. The bigger issue, and I do think
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it's an issue, is like where do they go?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's like who's leading them now?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I think Raheem Morris is okay, but there's questions in
a lot of places in the organization about the decisions
that were made, how the resources were allocated, where.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Do they go from here?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Evaluating your own roster, interestingly enough can be the one thing.
Let me say this, there's two ways where people in
charge can get in trouble. One is wasting the owner's money.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
They hate that.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Two is misevaluating your own roster, in other words, thinking
you're closer than you are. And I think after the season,
the Falcons are gonna have to take a look at
things and be like, what did we miss and how
did it all end up this way? And I'm fascinated
to see where it goes from here. But you know,
if you're like our good old friend Andrew Gruver and
you love the Falcons, this has been a very, very
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bad twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Let's sell with some of the other injuries, including one
to Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, which as we reported last night,
and it does not sound like this is anything long
term for Aaron Rodgers. He does have he had x
rays at the stadium. He's got a small fracture in
his left wrist. Whether that requires some type of a
procedure or not, it's an injury that Rogers believes he
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can play through. We have to find out now, do
the doctors believe that Aaron Rodgers can somehow pad it up,
protect it and play. You know, he's potentially in his
last run here. He's forty one years old. He doesn't
want to go, all right, I'm just going to take
a month off here. He wants to go, and this
might take We'll see what more we learn here in
the coming days and hours, but this might take the
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week to find out exactly what the Steelers plan is
going to be.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, I mean, this always makes me nervous to say,
because news really does change. Like you say, like, oh,
this player has this and then he gets an MRI
or not, so you know that's right. No, I'm just
saying a shot, but knowing that this is being recorded.
Here is my sense right now, Aaron Rodgers has not
been ruled out for Sunday. He very much wants to play,
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whether or not he needs surgery.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I don't know that he's going to get it now.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Anyway, Well, again, we will see, but I don't know
that he's going to get it. I think what he
wants to do is play and just go. I don't
really care about anything else. It's my last year. I'm
just going to go play. And I was told last
night that he's fifty to fifty for Sunday. I believe
that is the case, but either way, I don't believe
this is a long term thing. Anyway, he plays some
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you know, shotgun. I don't know what the actual numbers are,
but it seems like a lot. You could do that
with a left hand that's injured. Josh Allen won the
MVP last year, did it with a broken left hand
for half of the season.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
There is precedent.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
So my guess right now is he's up in the
air for Sunday, but probably plays the following week. And
you know, backup quarterbacks have really struggled this year, they
really really have. Mason Ruff played pretty good Sunday, he
really did. And I don't know that this is a
bad thing at all for the Steelers. If Rogers doesn't
play Someday, I'm just not that Mason's better, But like
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I think they'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
The Steelers went to the playoffs two years ago with
Mason Rudolph being the hot hand down the stretch. It
was the third different quarterback I believe that they had
played in that season start over Kenny Pickett was that
the year we started and stayed in the lineup into
the playoffs. So we have seen Mason Rudolph play functional
football that defense right now, this is maybe the best
that they've played. You know, clearly there was a situation
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that occurred yesterday in terms of Jalen Ramsey getting ejected
from the game. Videos showed that Jamar Chase spit on him.
We'll see that's the situation. They'll probably get resolved in
the hours between us recording this and actually having a
decision from the NFL. So let's not go too deep
into the weeds on that. But the point is the
Steelers defense has been playing pretty well. If they do that,
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you're gonna have a shot week in and week out
for a Steelers team that right now is still clinging
to that top spot in the AFC North. Speaking of
that division, Dylan Gabriel also lands in the concussion protocol.
On Sunday, Kevin Stefanski said he self reported symptoms at halftime.
That's why they went to Shador in the second half.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And if there was.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Any question ian about the remaining excitement level for people
who had not seen Shador on the field for a
couple of months, the frankly relative derangement of some people
with regard to why Shador had not played to this point,
but also the reaction, the crowd reaction to him coming
onto the field. This remains a cultural phenomenon. First time
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out tough spot for any quarterback, much less a rookie.
Who know, quarterbacks who are backups at this stage get
regular reps. It's hard no matter what. It was an
ugly start and one that maybe we'll find out a
little bit more about Shador Sanders with an actual week
of work, if indeed Gabriel can't go this week.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, I just want to really quickly go back to
the Steelers defense. You know, they have not been very
good this year, but it's amazing to me their pass
rushing depth. I mean, we went through a trade deadline
period where everyone in the world seemingly was looking for
pass rushers and nobody wanted to trade them except for
the Dolphins. The Steelers have a good deep crew of
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pass rush depth and Wan Hank Smith her big herbig TJ.
I mean, it's there. That is what everybody wants, and
that is why you draft and spend capitol on those guys. Anyway,
Shador so yes, he got barely any first team reps
because backups almost no backups get first team reps. He
looks bad except in two minutes, when I thought he
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looked okay. The throw in the end zone two Actually
there was two throws in the ends, and there was
the one he missed deep, and then there was the
one to the undrafted free agent whose name I forget.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
That got broken out of Gage Larvadan. Yes, that one,
that one, and.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Uh so that's pretty good Tom, and so like I thought,
when things got some players, young players especially are better
in two minute because things are simplified. Defenses are going faster,
they can't call as much, and you know, things are
much simpler.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I wonder if the Browns end up going.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Faster to force that on Traue door so he could
just go out and be simple and make plays.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I'm really looking forward to seeing it. I really.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I know that there's a big role eye roll from
a lot of people because there's been so much hype
for media.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I am fascinated.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
This is as big a quarterback development story as we
are going to see. Because in the preseason, when he played,
he looked good. He played last weeks, he looked bad.
The expectations are through the roof. The ratings are going
to be crazy. It sucks that it's because of an injury,
but we are going to learn so much about Shrador
Sanders from just one game, and god forbid he plays well.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It is going to be insane. This is going to
be insane.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
There's a lot of outcome based analysis, and a lot
of it is the binary basically, like you're with Shadoor
or you're not. He can play or he can It's
shades of gray. You're talking about a young quarterback. His
first time out, he was four of sixteen for forty
seven yards. He came in the game with a lead
and they lost. That is not a success by any stretch.
But also you're right, Teams run about seventy to eighty
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plays in a regular season practice week. There are no
additional reps. Especially, yes, Dylan Gabriel got some reps when
Joe Flacco was the starter, because Joe Flacco is a
million years old and he didn't need to take all
those reps. With Dylan Gabriel, you got to give him
those seventy to eighty snaps every week to get him ready.
There's not enough to also let's get let's get Shadoor ready.
If Dylan cannot practice this week, which the reason history
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would suggest that that's probably going to be the case
that he'll probably miss a game in concussion protocol. That's
an actual week of workforce shudur, and we'll see what
it looks like in potentially his first NFL start.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
We'll be right back with more on the inside.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Let's bring our friend Bridget Condon into the conversation because
she's based out there in LA. We had a massive
game in the NFC West yesterday and one that Sam
Donald would probably prefer to file away with another big
division road game last year Week eighteen against Detroit, Bridget,
this was not the best Sam Donald we've seen, although
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Ernest Jones probably is watching this summer and has a
few choice words for me in that Listen what sound
it was a fantastic SoundBite from Ernest Jones. You can
you can google it. We can't show it to you
on here. Yes, I want someone to speak up on
might behalf like he did for Sam Darnald. They love
Sam Donald. This was not a good day against a
really really good Rams defense. But knowing those teams as
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well as you do, Bridget, what did you take away
from the Rams getting that win over se.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Well, look, those were two of the best teams in
the NFL, arguably the two teams that we will see
in the NFC Championship game. Right, Like, both of these
teams somebody was going to have to lose. And in
talking with people pregame, specifically on the Seahawks sideline, they
all were praising Sam Donald. You know, of course this
was before the game, but people were saying that he's
the leader that they've needed in Seattle, and he's so
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even keeled. That's the word I kept hearing pregame, and
then also listening to some of the guys speak postgame too,
Mike McDonald as well. Just Sam Donald never really gets
too high, never gets too low. And yes, he had
a bad game against the Rams, and had a bad
game last year with the Vikings against the Rams. So
I don't know if the Rams have his number or what,
but those are two bad games. And if you throw
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in the Detroit last year too, those are three bad games.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
But Sam Donald has been bawling.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Okay, the stats that he's putting up, he's playing great,
and that's what people in Seattle were saying, like they
were kind of shocked that us in the media and
everybody else has been surprised at the Seahawks' success because
they're like, we got this guy from Minnesota who played
incredible last season. You put good guys around him, he's
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going to continue to play really well, and that's what
they've seen.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I think it speaks more to the Rams defense.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
And look, guys, that locker room was crazy yesterday after
the game. They were blasting the music as teams typically do,
but like full blast Stillwell, guys were at the podium
and I was like.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Okay, I was going to say, there must have been
something where someone could hear them.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Like the way that it works that so far is
you're in the room listening to the podium, and the
doors right here to the locker room. Like a lot
of times it's like a hallway between the locker room
and the podium.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It's literally right there. The music was still a lot.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I was like, okay, I'm ready to go in there,
like and talk to what those guys are doing. Jared
Verse also, have you guys ever talked to him because
ominal sound Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
He told me that people were doing backflips in the
locker room after the win, which I mean, look now
they're in first place in their division, you should be
doing it. But also I just want to read you
this transcript because it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
He was like the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yeah, people were doing backflips. I told everybody, put your
helmet back on. We're going to go out and run
another quarter man. It was a good time and it
was just great energy. And that is like the conversation
that I had with all the defensive players that I
talked to yesterday.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
They're just having so much fun and you're seeing it.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
We've talked about this Rams defense for now two three
years Byron Young, Jared Vers, Kobe Turner.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
They were so young when they came into the league,
and it.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Feels like this season, it's not like something is drastically changed.
They're just a little bit more mature and a little
bit more experience, and you're seeing it. DeVante Adams said
it perfectly at the podium. He said, man, like, I
just love that we can play like crap on offense
and we still get a win. Sean McVeigh said, I'm
not going to apologize for how we won, and that's
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how you have to do it, especially in November December.
It's not always going to look pretty. And that's the
biggest thing when we talk about Sam Donald, and I
don't want him to get so much flack as he's getting.
I know a lot of people love to talk badly
about Sam Darnold just because it's ingrained in our minds
how his start in the league was, right, like, it
just wasn't really good. He was with the Panthers, he
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was with the Jets, and it just never really never
really worked out, and people remember that. But the thing
is he's a really good quarterback. Matthew Stafford didn't have
a great day yesterday, but nobody's talking about him. Why
because his defense bailed him out of that game.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
The Seahawks almost won that game.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
And would we have been talking about how bad Sam
Donald played if they were.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
That's the whole thing we're talking about with this. Within
the frame of reference, it was, I mean, it was
in the general neighborhood. It was short and wide, right.
But yeah, and also, well, you know the other part
of this is Mike McDonald ian. His defense has been
unbelievable and they gave Matthew Stafford a hard time. No,
he still had what two touchdowns and no interceptions.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
He's on an unbelievable time for my fantasy.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
But it's like if he had a play's defense like
that and Sam Darnold just has a little bit less
of a catastrophic day than it will be just fine.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, And I would say, you know one thing about Darnald.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I think you're right, Bridget, And it's like, this happens
in the NFL, and it happens for better or worse
and college. When I covered colleges, it was the same thing.
It's like if you were a five star recruit, everyone
always remembered that no matter what, and you got a
million chances. With Donald, it's like because he struggled early,
it's like everyone's sort of looking for him to falter.
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Everyone's looking to find the clip where he's on the sideline.
It's like I'm seeing ghosts, you know, when he was
miked up and it caused the big thing.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And it's like six years ago.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
That was six years ago, three teams ago, that was
many millions ago. And like I find myself one because
I like him and two because I think he's really good.
It's like I found myself generally annoyed by people waiting.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
For him to turn back into a pumpkin.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
It's like, and the Vikings also moved on from him,
now I know they that was a little bit of
a different philosophical reason.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
They had JJ McCarthy building and all that how.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Much it was going to take to pay take and
the versus the commitment of what that would mean to
JJ McCarthy. But that's a sign, right and.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Also what that would mean like they wouldn't be able
to pay as much for defenders and offensive line, so
like that was a different thing. But still and it's like,
if this team goes deep into the playoffs, which it
certainly seems like it could, like he could have a
really cool season with a much better ending than he
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did last.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So here's the question now, because the forty nine ers
could brock pretty back yesterday and it was the second
stray week where the Cardinals just just they're behind the
eight ball from go. But you see yesterday, why as
much as yes Mac Jones played well, Mac Jones is
probably better than one of the starting quarterbacks in the NFL.
But Brock Purty, the Kyle Shanahan bridget, is special and
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when he talks about statistically, I mean, he's got the
highest passer rating, I believe of anybody depending on how
many career attempts you say is qualified. He got the
highest passer rating of anybody in NFL history. He's a
difference maker when he's on the field as much as
the forty nine ers of all these moving parts, and defensively,
they're playing with the JV at best right now. Yeah,
they still look dangerous, especially because they've got a guy
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in Kyle Shannon as well as Robert Solow or two
of the best in the business.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, I mean, Christian McCaffrey said it.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
He was vintage Brock, like he went and missed six
games and then came back and had a performance like that.
Because this episode should be called reputation and not Taylor
Swift reputation. It's just we're talking about another quarterback who
has a reputation for not being a great quarterback because
he was the last player drafted right and people constantly
think that he isn't good.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
In Mac Jones and whatever.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
He came in and played insane like he just missed
six weeks and to go now against NFL players. Yes,
the Cardinals are not good, but they still have a
dominant pass rush, and he goes out and balls the
way he did. Like I think that people forget how
talented he is because you look at Kyle Shanahan's offense
and the weapons that he has in George Kittle and
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Chris McCaffrey, it's like, oh, he's a system quarterback. Okay,
well the system's working for him and we just saw
it yesterday. And just the joy that comes out of
that locker room in those players when he's on the field.
George Kittle said, there's only been two quarterbacks that he
can relate to in the way Brock like is in
the huddle. It's like him and I don't know who else,
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he said, but like he's just so elite in the huddle,
and he plays the game with this joy that's so infectious,
and it's so fun for them to have him back.
It did feel like, though, for a second, guys, you know,
I'm in here doing updates every week. I was like,
how many times are we going to say Brock Purty
is on the field?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Limited? Like when is this guy gonna go? Let's go?
But now he's back, and.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Now the Niners are back in hey NFC West, Yes,
the Rams are in first place, but it's honestly anybody's game, really.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, And I think two things we learned in this
one is I sort of thought that after Brock's contract
that we would stop wondering if he was a franchise guy,
we meaning the collective media and public, And that has
not happened.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Like it's still like.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He's played three games since That's why. It's basically not
been on the field.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
That's why.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
But still, but still even people who like respected people
who know better were still talking about a quarterback controversy
when we know there isn't one, and Kyle Shannan said
there isn't one and there can't possibly be one, and so.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Like, yeah, and you talk about the system, like Bridget said,
the system quarterback differs between a system quarterback and a
system fit. Yeah, Kyle's system is so well proven. Matt
Ryan won an MVP playing in this system. We saw
Jimmy Garoppolo take a team to a super Bowl playing
in the system. Brock is taking this team to a
super Bowl playing in the system. None of those guys
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statistically have ever done what Brock Purty is doing over
this long of a period of time. Bridget, we ran
out of time. Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Appreciate you your reputations because it'll follow you forever.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Okay, yeah we know, trust me.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, just google Ian. You'll find a few good ones
in there, all right. If you're on the podcast, go
to part two right now. If you're watching us on
YouTube or on the NFL channel on faster and platforms,
stay right here. A lot more insiders to come for
bridget Ian. I'm Tom, will see you there.
Welcome Inside with the Insiders, a Monday podcast edition alongside
Ian Rapaport, I'm Tom Pelaicero. For those of you who
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about all the games from Sunday in the NFL. If
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We had everything you need right here. Let's start out
Ian with some injury updates, including in Atlanta, where you've
seen over the last five weeks. Here this move for
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the season, move from promising to Oho to yesterday, it
seemed like bordering on disaster, not just with the fifth
straight loss, not getting swept by the Pain, but also
injuries to both their quarterback Michael Pennix Junior the wide
receiver Drake London. Tell me the latest on those injuries.
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Starting out with Pennix, who we are not going to
see again. For a while here.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So first of all, in the Michael Pennock situation, we
knew last night it was not good anytime you have
a reaggravation of their previous injury. As we learned with
Rock Purdy, that term generally means you're out as long
or probably longer.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
This time it's going to be longer. Michael Pennick was
placed on injured reserve.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
He has out the next four games, which means he
is out till at least in mid December. We are
also getting to the time of year when basically every
injury that knocks you out for a while is either
out for the season or back for the playoffs. The
Eagles have one that's back for the playoffs. We'll talk
about that in a second, but this seems to be
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one where for the Atlanta Falcons, out for the next
four weeks could mean out for the rest of the season.
So it is a aggravation of the bone bruise and knee sprain.
There is also damage to the ACL. Now, when every
year there's like one or maybe two ACL sprains, it's
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very rare, but they do exist, and so if you
have an ACL sprain, which is basically a partial tear.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
It is a partial tear. Just to clarify any it
is a partial taar. Yes, that's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's the same thing. But sometimes you can rehab, but
most of the time, eventually a full reconstruction is needed.
And that's why when the Falcons say they're doing more
tests on Michael Pennix, those are the tests.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They know he's going to miss four games.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
They don't know if it's going to be full reconstructive
knee surgery, which would be his third, the first on
this knee, but his third overall. So Kirk Cousins, who's
making twenty seven million dollars this year to be a
backup quarterback that is coming in really looked pretty bad.
He now has to save their season. He has to
do it without Drake London. London is out this big
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with the PCL sprain. My understanding is that he could
miss additional weeks as well. These are bad injuries, and
I'm not saying this one in particulars bad. I'm just
saying every receiver has had one, from Puka Nakua, Ricky pearsall,
there's been several of them. They all come back at
a much longer time frame than initially anticipated. So if
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you're a Falcons fan and you're listening to this right now,
it's all bad.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's all bad.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And this is, you know, within the broader picture here,
it creates or adds to a variety of different questions
about the Falcons into twenty twenty six. Again, this was
very much treated as a we are in to be
a playoff team in twenty twenty five. Fell short last year,
but this is where you're taking a stride forward, and
every move they made to fortify, whether it was with veterans,
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whether it was in the draft, creating next year's first
round pick to the Rams to get a second pass
rusher in James Pierce after taking Jalen Walker already in
the first round. Now, all of a sudden, that pick
what you were thinking, we're gonna make the playoffs, it's
gonna be in the twenties. That could be a top
ten pick, that would be potentially ammunition to get a
quarterback for one of your other major needs. And when
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it comes to the quarterback position, nav a guy and Michael
Pennick Junior, who, as you said ian had torn his
right acl retore it in college, had actually been healthy
for several years now a left knee injury that potentially
could involve a full reconstruction as well. It does create
and again add to the questions already existed of with
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all the resources they put in the quarterback position, do
they have a quarterback in Atlanta? Because if Kirk Cousins
at this point, let's say, even if Kirk plays well
down the stretch here, he's due another I believe forty
million next year. Only ten million is guaranteed. It's hard
to imagine never say never, because they kept him this
year when everyone thought they were going to cut him
or trade him. But it's hard to imagine you're bringing
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him back once again. And then in terms of Michael Pennix,
he's potentially looking at a lengthy rehab, missing time into
next off season. And you also have to go a
guy who's in a history of knee injuries now has
another one. It just it creates so many different layers
to this. Obviously, there will be fair questions raised about
the organizational direction and who is guiding this team into
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twenty twenty six. And I would also add this as well,
when you talk about the partial ACL tear, there is
a history of players trying to rehab that it doesn't
often end well. The most notable example I can remember
for a quarterback in recent years was Ryan Tannehill partially
toward his ACL. I think it was in twenty seventeen.
Came back because the j Cutler year, laz here, Yeah,
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you would have been twenty when.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You turned Jake Cutler into a dolphin. The best meme ever.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That one still pops up every now and then.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Jay Cutler is now a dolphin.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I said, the Jay Cutler has passed his physical and
is now officially a dolphin, which people sent me South
Park memes for a long period of time after that.
But Tannehill had torn his ACL in twenty sixteen, rehabbed.
It was a partial tear. He rehabbed it, told me,
you know, sitting there on on the practice field an
NFL network with an interview, he was feeling great, and
like two days later he tore it the rest of
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the way. So it's a matter of what There's a
lot of medical stuff here that you and I are
not the experts on here. But again, these are all
the broader questions surrounding the team that oh yeah, has
to make a decision on paying b. John Robinson. Has
Kyle pitts now potentially edit toward free agency?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Are you paying?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Crowds?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Missing the block on that led to Michael Pennock's being
injured did not help.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I'm just gonna five five years of Kyle pitt you
get flashes and then but ever since his mcl injury,
which is another weird injury that there's just these are
the things like we talk about everything. It's like these
isolated news stories, but they all fit together. And right
now the Falcons are in the eye of the storm.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Mean yeah, and you know I would say, I would
say where they go from here? Like, look, it's been
a bad season, and even if Michael Pennix was injured today,
I'm sorry, Even if Michael Pennis was not injured today,
it's a long road ahead to get the Falcons back
to the playoffs. The bigger issue, and I do think
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it's an issue, is like where do they go?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's like who's leading them now?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I think Raheem Morris is okay, but there's questions in
a lot of places in the organization about the decisions
that were made, how the resources were allocated, where.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Do they go from here?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Evaluating your own roster, interestingly enough can be the one thing.
Let me say this, there's two ways where people in
charge can get in trouble. One is wasting the owner's money.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
They hate that.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Two is misevaluating your own roster, in other words, thinking
you're closer than you are. And I think after the season,
the Falcons are gonna have to take a look at
things and be like, what did we miss and how
did it all end up this way? And I'm fascinated
to see where it goes from here. But you know,
if you're like our good old friend Andrew Gruver and
you love the Falcons, this has been a very, very
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bad twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Let's sell with some of the other injuries, including one
to Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, which as we reported last night,
and it does not sound like this is anything long
term for Aaron Rodgers. He does have he had x
rays at the stadium. He's got a small fracture in
his left wrist. Whether that requires some type of a
procedure or not, it's an injury that Rogers believes he
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can play through. We have to find out now, do
the doctors believe that Aaron Rodgers can somehow pad it up,
protect it and play. You know, he's potentially in his
last run here. He's forty one years old. He doesn't
want to go, all right, I'm just going to take
a month off here. He wants to go, and this
might take We'll see what more we learn here in
the coming days and hours, but this might take the
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week to find out exactly what the Steelers plan is
going to be.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, I mean, this always makes me nervous to say,
because news really does change. Like you say, like, oh,
this player has this and then he gets an MRI
or not, so you know that's right. No, I'm just
saying a shot, but knowing that this is being recorded.
Here is my sense right now, Aaron Rodgers has not
been ruled out for Sunday. He very much wants to play,
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whether or not he needs surgery.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I don't know that he's going to get it now.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Anyway, Well, again, we will see, but I don't know
that he's going to get it. I think what he
wants to do is play and just go. I don't
really care about anything else. It's my last year. I'm
just going to go play. And I was told last
night that he's fifty to fifty for Sunday. I believe
that is the case, but either way, I don't believe
this is a long term thing. Anyway, he plays some
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you know, shotgun. I don't know what the actual numbers are,
but it seems like a lot. You could do that
with a left hand that's injured. Josh Allen won the
MVP last year, did it with a broken left hand
for half of the season.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
There is precedent.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
So my guess right now is he's up in the
air for Sunday, but probably plays the following week. And
you know, backup quarterbacks have really struggled this year, they
really really have. Mason Ruff played pretty good Sunday, he
really did. And I don't know that this is a
bad thing at all for the Steelers. If Rogers doesn't
play Someday, I'm just not that Mason's better, But like
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I think they'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
The Steelers went to the playoffs two years ago with
Mason Rudolph being the hot hand down the stretch. It
was the third different quarterback I believe that they had
played in that season start over Kenny Pickett was that
the year we started and stayed in the lineup into
the playoffs. So we have seen Mason Rudolph play functional
football that defense right now, this is maybe the best
that they've played. You know, clearly there was a situation
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that occurred yesterday in terms of Jalen Ramsey getting ejected
from the game. Videos showed that Jamar Chase spit on him.
We'll see that's the situation. They'll probably get resolved in
the hours between us recording this and actually having a
decision from the NFL. So let's not go too deep
into the weeds on that. But the point is the
Steelers defense has been playing pretty well. If they do that,
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you're gonna have a shot week in and week out
for a Steelers team that right now is still clinging
to that top spot in the AFC North. Speaking of
that division, Dylan Gabriel also lands in the concussion protocol.
On Sunday, Kevin Stefanski said he self reported symptoms at halftime.
That's why they went to Shador in the second half.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And if there was.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Any question ian about the remaining excitement level for people
who had not seen Shador on the field for a
couple of months, the frankly relative derangement of some people
with regard to why Shador had not played to this point,
but also the reaction, the crowd reaction to him coming
onto the field. This remains a cultural phenomenon. First time
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out tough spot for any quarterback, much less a rookie.
Who know, quarterbacks who are backups at this stage get
regular reps. It's hard no matter what. It was an
ugly start and one that maybe we'll find out a
little bit more about Shador Sanders with an actual week
of work, if indeed Gabriel can't go this week.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, I just want to really quickly go back to
the Steelers defense. You know, they have not been very
good this year, but it's amazing to me their pass
rushing depth. I mean, we went through a trade deadline
period where everyone in the world seemingly was looking for
pass rushers and nobody wanted to trade them except for
the Dolphins. The Steelers have a good deep crew of
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pass rush depth and Wan Hank Smith her big herbig TJ.
I mean, it's there. That is what everybody wants, and
that is why you draft and spend capitol on those guys. Anyway,
Shador so yes, he got barely any first team reps
because backups almost no backups get first team reps. He
looks bad except in two minutes, when I thought he
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looked okay. The throw in the end zone two Actually
there was two throws in the ends, and there was
the one he missed deep, and then there was the
one to the undrafted free agent whose name I forget.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
That got broken out of Gage Larvadan. Yes, that one,
that one, and.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Uh so that's pretty good Tom, and so like I thought,
when things got some players, young players especially are better
in two minute because things are simplified. Defenses are going faster,
they can't call as much, and you know, things are
much simpler.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I wonder if the Browns end up going.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Faster to force that on Traue door so he could
just go out and be simple and make plays.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I'm really looking forward to seeing it. I really.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I know that there's a big role eye roll from
a lot of people because there's been so much hype
for media.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I am fascinated.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
This is as big a quarterback development story as we
are going to see. Because in the preseason, when he played,
he looked good. He played last weeks, he looked bad.
The expectations are through the roof. The ratings are going
to be crazy. It sucks that it's because of an injury,
but we are going to learn so much about Shrador
Sanders from just one game, and god forbid he plays well.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It is going to be insane. This is going to
be insane.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
There's a lot of outcome based analysis, and a lot
of it is the binary basically, like you're with Shadoor
or you're not. He can play or he can It's
shades of gray. You're talking about a young quarterback. His
first time out, he was four of sixteen for forty
seven yards. He came in the game with a lead
and they lost. That is not a success by any stretch.
But also you're right, Teams run about seventy to eighty
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plays in a regular season practice week. There are no
additional reps. Especially, yes, Dylan Gabriel got some reps when
Joe Flacco was the starter, because Joe Flacco is a
million years old and he didn't need to take all
those reps. With Dylan Gabriel, you got to give him
those seventy to eighty snaps every week to get him ready.
There's not enough to also let's get let's get Shadoor ready.
If Dylan cannot practice this week, which the reason history
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would suggest that that's probably going to be the case
that he'll probably miss a game in concussion protocol. That's
an actual week of workforce shudur, and we'll see what
it looks like in potentially his first NFL start.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
We'll be right back with more on the inside.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Let's bring our friend Bridget Condon into the conversation because
she's based out there in LA. We had a massive
game in the NFC West yesterday and one that Sam
Donald would probably prefer to file away with another big
division road game last year Week eighteen against Detroit, Bridget,
this was not the best Sam Donald we've seen, although
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Ernest Jones probably is watching this summer and has a
few choice words for me in that Listen what sound
it was a fantastic SoundBite from Ernest Jones. You can
you can google it. We can't show it to you
on here. Yes, I want someone to speak up on
might behalf like he did for Sam Darnald. They love
Sam Donald. This was not a good day against a
really really good Rams defense. But knowing those teams as
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well as you do, Bridget, what did you take away
from the Rams getting that win over se.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Well, look, those were two of the best teams in
the NFL, arguably the two teams that we will see
in the NFC Championship game. Right, Like, both of these
teams somebody was going to have to lose. And in
talking with people pregame, specifically on the Seahawks sideline, they
all were praising Sam Donald. You know, of course this
was before the game, but people were saying that he's
the leader that they've needed in Seattle, and he's so
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even keeled. That's the word I kept hearing pregame, and
then also listening to some of the guys speak postgame too,
Mike McDonald as well. Just Sam Donald never really gets
too high, never gets too low. And yes, he had
a bad game against the Rams, and had a bad
game last year with the Vikings against the Rams. So
I don't know if the Rams have his number or what,
but those are two bad games. And if you throw
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in the Detroit last year too, those are three bad games.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
But Sam Donald has been bawling.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Okay, the stats that he's putting up, he's playing great,
and that's what people in Seattle were saying, like they
were kind of shocked that us in the media and
everybody else has been surprised at the Seahawks' success because
they're like, we got this guy from Minnesota who played
incredible last season. You put good guys around him, he's
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going to continue to play really well, and that's what
they've seen.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I think it speaks more to the Rams defense.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
And look, guys, that locker room was crazy yesterday after
the game. They were blasting the music as teams typically do,
but like full blast Stillwell, guys were at the podium
and I was like.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Okay, I was going to say, there must have been
something where someone could hear them.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Like the way that it works that so far is
you're in the room listening to the podium, and the
doors right here to the locker room. Like a lot
of times it's like a hallway between the locker room
and the podium.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It's literally right there. The music was still a lot.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I was like, okay, I'm ready to go in there,
like and talk to what those guys are doing. Jared
Verse also, have you guys ever talked to him because
ominal sound Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
He told me that people were doing backflips in the
locker room after the win, which I mean, look now
they're in first place in their division, you should be
doing it. But also I just want to read you
this transcript because it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
He was like the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yeah, people were doing backflips. I told everybody, put your
helmet back on. We're going to go out and run
another quarter man. It was a good time and it
was just great energy. And that is like the conversation
that I had with all the defensive players that I
talked to yesterday.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
They're just having so much fun and you're seeing it.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
We've talked about this Rams defense for now two three
years Byron Young, Jared Vers, Kobe Turner.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
They were so young when they came into the league,
and it.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Feels like this season, it's not like something is drastically changed.
They're just a little bit more mature and a little
bit more experience, and you're seeing it. DeVante Adams said
it perfectly at the podium. He said, man, like, I
just love that we can play like crap on offense
and we still get a win. Sean McVeigh said, I'm
not going to apologize for how we won, and that's
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how you have to do it, especially in November December.
It's not always going to look pretty. And that's the
biggest thing when we talk about Sam Donald, and I
don't want him to get so much flack as he's getting.
I know a lot of people love to talk badly
about Sam Darnold just because it's ingrained in our minds
how his start in the league was, right, like, it
just wasn't really good. He was with the Panthers, he
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was with the Jets, and it just never really never
really worked out, and people remember that. But the thing
is he's a really good quarterback. Matthew Stafford didn't have
a great day yesterday, but nobody's talking about him. Why
because his defense bailed him out of that game.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
The Seahawks almost won that game.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
And would we have been talking about how bad Sam
Donald played if they were.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
That's the whole thing we're talking about with this. Within
the frame of reference, it was, I mean, it was
in the general neighborhood. It was short and wide, right.
But yeah, and also, well, you know the other part
of this is Mike McDonald ian. His defense has been
unbelievable and they gave Matthew Stafford a hard time. No,
he still had what two touchdowns and no interceptions.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
He's on an unbelievable time for my fantasy.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
But it's like if he had a play's defense like
that and Sam Darnold just has a little bit less
of a catastrophic day than it will be just fine.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, And I would say, you know one thing about Darnald.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I think you're right, Bridget, And it's like, this happens
in the NFL, and it happens for better or worse
and college. When I covered colleges, it was the same thing.
It's like if you were a five star recruit, everyone
always remembered that no matter what, and you got a
million chances. With Donald, it's like because he struggled early,
it's like everyone's sort of looking for him to falter.
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Everyone's looking to find the clip where he's on the sideline.
It's like I'm seeing ghosts, you know, when he was
miked up and it caused the big thing.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And it's like six years ago.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
That was six years ago, three teams ago, that was
many millions ago. And like I find myself one because
I like him and two because I think he's really good.
It's like I found myself generally annoyed by people waiting.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
For him to turn back into a pumpkin.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
It's like, and the Vikings also moved on from him,
now I know they that was a little bit of
a different philosophical reason.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
They had JJ McCarthy building and all that how.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Much it was going to take to pay take and
the versus the commitment of what that would mean to
JJ McCarthy. But that's a sign, right and.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Also what that would mean like they wouldn't be able
to pay as much for defenders and offensive line, so
like that was a different thing. But still and it's like,
if this team goes deep into the playoffs, which it
certainly seems like it could, like he could have a
really cool season with a much better ending than he
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did last.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So here's the question now, because the forty nine ers
could brock pretty back yesterday and it was the second
stray week where the Cardinals just just they're behind the
eight ball from go. But you see yesterday, why as
much as yes Mac Jones played well, Mac Jones is
probably better than one of the starting quarterbacks in the NFL.
But Brock Purty, the Kyle Shanahan bridget, is special and
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when he talks about statistically, I mean, he's got the
highest passer rating, I believe of anybody depending on how
many career attempts you say is qualified. He got the
highest passer rating of anybody in NFL history. He's a
difference maker when he's on the field as much as
the forty nine ers of all these moving parts, and defensively,
they're playing with the JV at best right now. Yeah,
they still look dangerous, especially because they've got a guy
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in Kyle Shannon as well as Robert Solow or two
of the best in the business.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, I mean, Christian McCaffrey said it.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
He was vintage Brock, like he went and missed six
games and then came back and had a performance like that.
Because this episode should be called reputation and not Taylor
Swift reputation. It's just we're talking about another quarterback who
has a reputation for not being a great quarterback because
he was the last player drafted right and people constantly
think that he isn't good.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
In Mac Jones and whatever.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
He came in and played insane like he just missed
six weeks and to go now against NFL players. Yes,
the Cardinals are not good, but they still have a
dominant pass rush, and he goes out and balls the
way he did. Like I think that people forget how
talented he is because you look at Kyle Shanahan's offense
and the weapons that he has in George Kittle and
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Chris McCaffrey, it's like, oh, he's a system quarterback. Okay,
well the system's working for him and we just saw
it yesterday. And just the joy that comes out of
that locker room in those players when he's on the field.
George Kittle said, there's only been two quarterbacks that he
can relate to in the way Brock like is in
the huddle. It's like him and I don't know who else,
(23:35):
he said, but like he's just so elite in the huddle,
and he plays the game with this joy that's so infectious,
and it's so fun for them to have him back.
It did feel like, though, for a second, guys, you know,
I'm in here doing updates every week. I was like,
how many times are we going to say Brock Purty
is on the field?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Limited? Like when is this guy gonna go? Let's go?
But now he's back, and.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Now the Niners are back in hey NFC West, Yes,
the Rams are in first place, but it's honestly anybody's game, really.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, And I think two things we learned in this
one is I sort of thought that after Brock's contract
that we would stop wondering if he was a franchise guy,
we meaning the collective media and public, And that has
not happened.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Like it's still like.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He's played three games since That's why. It's basically not
been on the field.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
That's why.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
But still, but still even people who like respected people
who know better were still talking about a quarterback controversy
when we know there isn't one, and Kyle Shannan said
there isn't one and there can't possibly be one, and so.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Like, yeah, and you talk about the system, like Bridget said,
the system quarterback differs between a system quarterback and a
system fit. Yeah, Kyle's system is so well proven. Matt
Ryan won an MVP playing in this system. We saw
Jimmy Garoppolo take a team to a super Bowl playing
in the system. Brock is taking this team to a
super Bowl playing in the system. None of those guys
(25:00):
statistically have ever done what Brock Purty is doing over
this long of a period of time. Bridget, we ran
out of time. Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Appreciate you your reputations because it'll follow you forever.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Okay, yeah we know, trust me.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, just google Ian. You'll find a few good ones
in there, all right. If you're on the podcast, go
to part two right now. If you're watching us on
YouTube or on the NFL channel on faster and platforms,
stay right here. A lot more insiders to come for
bridget Ian. I'm Tom, will see you there.
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