September 29, 2025 • 25 mins
NFL Network Insiders Mike Garafolo, and Ian Rapoport report on Lamar Jackson dealing with a hamstring injury, Marlon Humphrey expecting to miss a couple of weeks with a calf injury, and Nnamdi Madubuike missing the rest of the season with a neck injury.
The crew also broke down the top storylines from Week 4 including the Giants earning their first win under Jaxson Dart, the Ravens falling to 1-3, and the Steelers securing their first-ever victory in Dublin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is Monday of week four, and this is part
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this here as well. Ian Rapaport back with me. Mike
Arra follow as we wrap up the front part of
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the weekend. We still have Monday Night football to come
here in week four, but we wrap up a lot
of texts the weekend that was a lot of text
is a lot of news. So nom the metabk, the
Ravens defensive tackle. Again, I keep saying that like maybe
the casual, casual fan doesn't know who he is.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
No, I know a lot of people do not know
who he is.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
If you don't know, first of all, I made this
case on Good Morning Football the other day after they
lost to the Lions. He makes twenty four million dollars
a year and it's probably not enough. But this being said,
he does have any neck injury that is going to
knock him out for the rest of the season. John
Harball saying that today just an enormous loss there for
the Ravens because you saw the impact or the impact
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of him not being there against Detroit and this past
weekend against Kansas City. So the Ravens maybe as they
get closer to the trade deadline, look for some help
at the defensive tackle position. We shall see, but there's
just no replacing that guy. Ian. Let's get to the
Giants here, because game one of the Jackson Dart era.
We talked about it last week. We expected him to
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provide a spark to this team. He did just that.
I am now seeing the reaction to it, which was,
this is not sustainable. He's going to get hurt. He's
running too much. Look, the bottom line was, and we
mentioned this, his legs and being able to create with
his legs was a big part of their decision to
say we can go with him now because we don't
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have to put him in spread formations and have him
throwing the ball down the field and throwing the ball
forty times a game. We knew this was going to
be part of it. He did that, and he did
a nice job in Game one to get the Giants
off to an upset victory.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
A couple of things there.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
First of all, you know, we were on air all
week talking about like, you know, the spark that the
Giants want and like the good you know, you were saying,
you know, there was like a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Of juice in the locker room. That's cool for us
to say. You can really see it on the field,
Like that was all pretty real, you know, And I
thought that was cool. I mean, this is like, you know,
as a young dude running around like.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
He's fast, he's a good athlete.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I thought that was, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Sort of exactly the juice that the Giants were looking for.
The dance, I have some questions about maybe that's something
the kids do. I'm certainly older than Jackson Dart, so
maybe I'll ask my children about that dance and what
that was.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I don't think him running is a problem. Two things.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
One, I'm not convinced that a quarterback sitting back in
the pocket is any safer than a quarterback running. The
argument being you get hit from the back or the
side versus seeing people coming and being able to prepare
for it. So I will argue that running quarterbacks are
just as much in danger or whatever then guys who
sit back and just drop back. But really, like him
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opening up the entire offense for the Giants was so noticeable,
like Russ through the ball. Fine, you know obviously didn't
play well enough to not get benched, but this is
exactly what they needed in Yes, like losing the league,
neighbors hurts, and I saw you shaking your head when
I was talking about the potential positives to that. You
can argue with me if you want right now, but
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there are some positives to forcing him to read the offense,
go through it, go through his progression, figure it out,
and whatever happens to the Giants this year, every many
wins they get, clearly had it in a better direction
now than they were last week.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, that was in part one of the podcasts. You
were talking about how this may be better for Jackson
Dark because he's got to learn to run an offense
and not rely upon listen the Giants years ago traded
away Odell Beckham and tried to make the case this
is gonna make us. Remember you broke that, we're gonna
run We're gonna run our offense the way if you
broke that.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I remember you broke it, and I was so happy
for you, but also so mad because I wasn't included
in it because I went to go vote at a
local election and then you broke the trade while I
was voting for the local.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Voting in May. Your story doesn't check out. You vote November.
It it was in May primary.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
No, it was March. It was traded in May.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
May. I'm at March whatever. It's not November usually that's
where elections take place. But if it was a primary
or something, I get it. But I remember the story
coming out of it's gonna make us a better offense.
We're gonna have to run it the way like we're
not just forcing the ball to one Jackson Dark could
use Molaie neighborsut there, because right now it's gonna be
Wondale Robinson. I got it Line Target and a friend
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of yours that you met the Derby. You're gonna mention
it so I might as well do it before you
do it. Matter of fact, you sent a picture back
to me and were like, but you don't know who
this is? And I was like, that's Wandale Robinson and
you're gonna get to see him a lot more Giants
fans and fans around the NFL because surely he'll be
thrust into a bigger role alongside Darius Slayton. Maybe you know,
is there a free agent option or a trade op?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Jalen Hyatt also a little more Jalen Hyatt.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
All hi it too. The problem is that at this point,
if you're a free agent, I don't think we're still
despite winning yesterday, we're not expecting the Giants to go
to the playoffs? Like is this the team that you
want to go to or is it gonna be one
where you have a chance to win? And then would
the Giants make a trade for a guy in season
and use capital that they could use down the line
to build around him, Like there's a lot that goes
into it, but you want guys around Jackson Dart and
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they still have talented, skilled players at the tight end
position and in the backfield as well. So we'll see
how that's going to go for the Giants. It was
a or sweet victory. It's the vibe got out of
there was kind of like why can't we have nice
things like we get this victory.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I would say that sums it up.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, yeah, And it's like and Elik Neighbors get towards ACL.
So the good news is there's no it doesn't sound
like there's any other damage in the knee. It's a
clean tear. So long term, f Elie Neighbors, he'll be
back to full strength.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
The Eagles, I.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Want to get to them because it's all about style
points for them. And here's to make any sense, not
to me. And I did make the case and I
still believe this, and yesterday was part of it. That
the way their games have gone early in the season,
Jalen Hurts specifically has played the game and quarterback the
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position and made decisions whether to throw or not throw footballs,
and he didn't throw any of them in the second
where they didn't complete anything the second half, I should
say zero passing yards whatever it was. That's the set
I was going for based on like what do we
have to do to win this game? And there was
a game in Kansas City. It was a tightly contested,
defensive game, and they said, we're not gonna make any
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mistakes here. So he and they called it that way.
They needed to have a comeback against the Rams, needed
to start airing it out and throw some fifty to
fifty balls. He did that and they had a great comeback,
and they went again this game against Tampa yesterday. They
put enough points on the board in the first half
that in the second half it was almost back to
that let's not screw this up type thing.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I don't argument is this is Sirianni coaching to win
rather than him caring about what it looks like.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Is yes, right?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And I think yes, And I think it's one, let's
do what we have to do to win. Two, it's
still early in the season. And yes, we haven't had
to really other than the Rams second half put ourselves
in a positiation position where we have to be more
of an explosive offense. We're okay with that. There were
also some fumbled kickoffs against the Rams early in the
game where they were like, oh man, we're backed up.
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Let's not get stupid here. There's a lot going on here.
The problem is in Philadelphia. They remember two thousand or
twenty twenty three when they won a lot of games
early in the season and it was like, this isn't
passing the eye test. Now, that was more of a.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Defensive thing hours where they collapsed at the end and.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
They and they changed both coordinators and then they won
the Super Bowl in twenty four So that was more
of a defensive thing that year, and then all of
a sudden, everything kind of fell off a cliff at
the end of the year. Offensive end, defensive. This is
a little bit different. The defense has been for the
most part, other than chunks of that gaming stay really good.
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And in this case, the offense needs to come around.
AJ Brown's posting stuff on social media, which I was
just about to mention there they don't need that. There's
the post down the bottom, they don't need that. Like
he's got to stay locked.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
In What does that even mean?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So it was a Bible a Bible verse.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He's not appreciated enough.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yes, it was a it was a It was a
Bible verse. And there's a fuller context for what he's
trying to say. And he may he may come in
on Wednesday or Thursday and say, but I had nothing
to do with football or the offense. Don't care. Can't
put that out that after a game like that. Got
to understand the contest.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
He will not say that he might.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
He might if you're not welcomed. So this is a
whole Uh, this is the whole thing in the Bible.
Don't go to the gentiles of the Samerians, but only
to the people of Israel. Guys. Never mind, that's what
we're going down a rabbit hole there.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But you know this podcast for Bible analysis. This would
be that this is your time, Yes, right now is
your time.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And I would say I would say that in the
replies to his post, we're a lot of people like
there was one with the lighten up Francis meme uh,
and there was other people saying like we're four and zero.
We don't need you right now, we will need you
at some point. Stay folk like the fans were not
as much in his corner, and like, because I know
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that they're loves in their minds over this offense and
they want this thing to be high flying and they
want to be throwing the football. So I went to
the replies, I'm like, let's see what and a lot
of people are like a J man, chill, we're four
and out, so that that part of the surprises.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Well, I mean, I don't know that anybody loves the
receiver who goes, yeah, I know we won, but I
only had this many catches. It's like, ah, Like, at
some point, it gets very tiresome.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The thing with AJ Brown is he's so good. He's
so good and.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So like I feel like he gets a little leeway
because he's so good and he's like really like a
pretty likable, pretty likable guy, even though he can get
frustrated pretty quickly. It seems I just can't believe that
the Eagles of four and oh and it feels.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like they are zero in a million, and like there's
no other team that's like this.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Like when Kansas City starts out looking like not great
and then they get to two and two, everyone's like, ah,
Chiefs will be fine, Mahomes will do mahomes and they're
just gonna hang around and they'll be in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Eagles, It's like, man, that team is in trouble.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
That offense they didn't get any passing yards in the
second half, and AJ's not and they are in trouble
and I'm like, they're four no, and physically they're about
as good as anyone. So you live and basically live
in that city, sort of you represent that city.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Certainly you can understand this better than I can. But man,
but I.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Stopped rooting for the team years ago when I entered
the media, and I just go back to I gotta
tell you, I would love a team that didn't have
the style points and was winning games over and over
when I was rooting for the Eagles in the early
nineties and close to the two thousands. So but now
you get a little spoiled. You got two Super Bowl
championships under your belt, you get a little bit spoiled
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with it, and a lot of people are going to say, like,
this is the stuff that is going to come back
to bite you when you need it when you're playing
down the stretch, which is fine. I get that, but
it's also a time to figure out how do you
become that what are we not doing to get us
at that point? And I would also say, in this league,
you gotta win games a lot of different ways. Like
the Chiefs always have that game every so often where
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it's like, oh, we're just gonna run the ball for
two hundred yards like they did it in Buffalo one year,
think during the COVID year, and it was like the
Chiefs can just morph into that kind of team. The
Patriots for that kind of team week in week out,
drive in, drive out, they would show you a completely
different offense during the Josh McDaniels era and when they
were there were really coming. So I'm okay with winning
a game where you had to come from behind, winning
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a game where you're holding on for dear life and
you got to make the decisions like these are the
kind of things that you need to do throughout the
course of the season to win some games. We shall
see if the Eagles turn it around, put enough points
on the board and enough yards in aj brown Stack
com to make everybody happy.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
We'll be right back with more on the inside.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Welcome back to the Insiders uh the Monday of Week four,
as we continue to break down what happened in the NFL,
what we expect to happen in the NFL moving forward.
The Ravens now nom Di Matabike. We mentioned this the
latest news we knew he was on injury reserve. I mean,
this has been a slow trickle of he's not playing
this week, he's on IR he's out for the season.
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You hope that's where it stops for a good young
player to make sure that he can come back and
play in the NFL once again and play for the Ravens.
But Kyle van Noy injured, Lamar Jackson was hurt. John
Harball not really providing much of an update in that regard.
Who'd I miss? They're they're they're they're, I mean, they're
they're really banged up at this point. You mentioned Marlon
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Humphrey too, I believe as well Ian what he's dealing with.
You're one in three and it's like, okay, we knew
one of those teams after that game, Chiefs or Ravens
was going to be one and three. Uh, but it's
one in three and like, whoa, this is not right here,
This does not look right. There's a lot of injuries.
How much can they possibly overcome? Next week they have
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the Houston Texans at home, a team that really has
played them tough there before, they got the Rams at home,
and then a bye week, so this is a almost
got to go to and zero and get into the
bye week type of situation. I mean they could go
one on one. I'm not calling these must win games,
but you really want to hit that week seven by
because on the back side of that there are winnable games.
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So this is like, let's just get to that buy
in the right shape, moving in the right direction, and
maybe we could salvage this thing.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, a couple of specifics on some of the injuries.
So first of all, it does seem like there's a
real chance. Lamar Jackson this is this week, got a
hamstring injury, John Harbaugh saying that he could not continue
in the game. Now, we didn't see him going into
the blue tents at all, but I mean, hamstring injury
could happen. Literally, any guy ran around a million times.
That could have happened at any moment, and I could
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see him just sort of dealing with it, not acknowledging
it until at some point it was like, all.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Rokwan Smith, my understanding is going to miss time with
a Grade two hamstring strain.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Marlon Humphrey is going to be out a couple weeks
with the calf injury. Mattabuik you mentioned, is out for
the season, and we'll see.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It's a lot. It is a lot now for the Ravens.
I refuse to believe that any of this matters because
they are going to be good, and they're certainly too
good to not be a playoff team. So yes, could
they go one and one this next stretch? They could?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Could they go and too? They could?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I believe the Ravens are too talented and going to
be fine. Just got a sort of hang in there.
I'm interested in Zach Or, their defensive coordinator. He is
a little in battled. They've had to get him some
sort of older wiser help, not wiser, but older help,
recently in the form of DNPS. I wonder if maybe
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during the bye week or something like, they make them
as there because this team is too talented to be
giving up guys who are just running free, and so I.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Think they're going to be okay because I love the roster.
But it is a weird time for the Ravens right now.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, we ran down the list of injuries there. I
want to show you something because Ravens, I would look
internally for the motto that you need right now? What
does that say?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Nobody cares work harder?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Nobody cares work harder? If you're not watching us on video.
Here it is Lamar Jackson wearing it at a press conference.
That is a motto inside the Castle, which is what
they call their training facility there at in Owens Mills, Maryland.
Nobody cares. Work harder, Nobody cares that you're injured. A
lot of other teams are injured right now, doesn't matter.
You are the Ravens, You are well coached, You have
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depth because of your ability to scout and put together
a fifty three man roster. You have got to find
a way to win these games. Now, look on the
back end. I talked about that bye week. Here's the
back end of it. Okay, And if you're fans of
any teams, or if you're players or coaches a person of it,
I'm not insulting you. I'm just saying, here's the back
end of it. Home against the Bears, at the Dolphins.
Two more row games after that at the Vikings, at
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the Browns. These are not a lot of playoff teams
potentially that we're talking about Home against the Jets, Home
against the Bengals. I would assume that's still gonna be
without Joe Burrow. Get into December home against the Steelers
at the Bengals home against the Patriots at Packers at
Steelers close. There's winnable games, there's enough to get you
into the postseason. There nobody cares work harder Baltimore Ravens.
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I mentioned the Steelers there at some point during that
schedule rip. They played the first NFL regular season game
in Dublin. An entertaining game for sure. Carson Wentz at
the end with a chance to pull some stuff out,
not quite able to make it happen. The Steelers were
able to put the ball in the air. We're able
to have big plays, explosive plays on offense, which is good.
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That's why you've got DK Metcalf here did a nice
job without Jalen Warre. And they're starting running back Kenneth Gamewell.
Thanks Ian for suggesting I don't start. I picked them
up off the wire, pick them up, and I go
I should start Kenny Gamewell. This is the team that
runs the ball, and I liked what I saw from
him early in the season when he played in Spurts.
I should start.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Casting them playing really well.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Didn't do it. Went with Travon Henderson again, who actually
had one of his better games, but still nowhere near
the production So frankly, I'm going to be one in
three in fantasy boomy. Your thoughts, your thoughts in the
entire Dublin experience. Another successful international game for the NFL,
which has got a ton of them coming up here.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It does, that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
The Vikings are actually staying out there and go and
hang out in England playing the Cleveland Browns as a
matter of fact, next week.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So it seemed good.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
You know, people always ask like, well, you know, what
was the Dublin game, Like, I've never been to an
international game while working in NFL network, so I truly
have no idea. I just know it looked cool on TV,
which is the most important thing to me, Like it
looked awesome. Got to hear Greg Olsen talk about why
he tried Guinness and doesn't really like it very much.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I thought that was one of the best moments of
the game.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And that's fair because I also have tried Guinness and
drank other beers. Guinness is fine, it's just like really
just not for everyone. So I appreciated his take there.
It seems like the teams had a really good experience
being over there, so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Seemed pretty good, right.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
It did, yes, And I thought the crowd was into it,
and I you know, I covered the first of these.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
By the way, definitely the most pro any team crowd
except for London and Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Like that was a pro Steelers crowd.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Felt like I get that. Yeah, and I would agree
with that. It's a weird text. I would also say that.
And I covered the first international game in two thousand
and seven, Giants Dolphins, and it was a weird scene
and not a lot of folks into it. Jerseys from
all over first international game, Yeah, Giants Dolphins. Horrendous field
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conditions at Wembley. It's another thing. The fields have gotten better.
We had to slip yesterday. Who slipped? Justin Jefferson? I
believe I was like, oh, otherwise, good footing the rest
of the game. So people have explained like a lot
of these stadiums are it's a different kind of grass
for soccer, and so it's more of a it's not
a plotting thing. It's more of a gliding surface, and
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so when you try to play it beyond my understanding
of things. But I think they've done a nice job
with the surfaces. Internationally, and you haven't had those kinds
of issues where we said, hey, maybe we shouldn't be
playing the NFL games at Wembley where they're not used
to playing NFL games, where way beyond that, the quality
of the games has been excellent. You play a nine
thirty AM game and it's you're watching the night game
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and you see highlights of that game, it's like, oh,
I remember that game. It feels like it happened like
three weeks ago. That's how long these days tend to be.
But it's nice to have NFL football in the morning.
Here your thoughts on the Steelers overall, because this is
a team that has not been shy about talking Super
Bowl and talking high expectations, and it's a team that
a lot of folks say they'll be good, they'll be
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around nine to eight like they always are. Can they
put it all together? Can they get above that?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yes? I feel fine about the Steelers. I thought.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I liked the game plan and Judy told us some
about this in pregame show, moving dk Metcalf around, featuring him,
putting him in different positions in the offense and getting
the balltim Millenium run. I liked that if they can
stop the run, as they did some yesterday. I think
they're going to be fine or more than fine, as
long as Aaron Rodgers stays healthy.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
And that's kind of what I mean. They looked like, honestly,
look like every Steelers team has for the last like
five years. It's just like, can they get good quarterback
plane if Rogers avoid some of the lower body injuries
that he had last year, like hamstring, ankle, like I
kill us before that, I think they are.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Going to be in the playoffs and a team that
you would not want to play. Are think gonna win games?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Like?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I don't know, but I think they will be a
team you do not want to play, which that is
for doing all the.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Things that did in the offseason. That is progress.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I want to get your take on the vikings and
the things j jjban officially ruled out. I mean, I
know we said it was unlikely he was going to play.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I don't know if it's not officially no.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I mean, it usually doesn't happen till Friday, but I
didn't know if Kevin O'Connell basically had said it. I
missed the postgame press conference yesterday. This felt like and
this is going to be a gotta have a game
against the Browns here on the second half of their
European tour here. They were favored in this game against
the Steelers, to which I actually said to you, I
don't understand why they're considered favorites in this game. I
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feel like it would be more of a toss up.
Not that I'm ever right about this stuff, but it
just so happened in this case the Vikings and Carson
Wentz and the long term plan for JJ McCarthy. I mean,
I guess you don't necessarily like you want your backup
to play well, but in this case, it's like you
didn't want him to play.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Play too well.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
They'd never say that you don't want to play too
well because you've got to get JJ McCarthy back in there,
got to get him feeling good once he's healthy and
moving in the right direction. Because this this injury, and
there is an injury. I know some people are skeptical
there is an injury. Has given him a chance to
hit the pause button and to basically reset and come
back and hopefully play better. In this case for the
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Vikings down the stretch on the other end of the game,
the Browns. Time for a quarterback change for the Browns.
Here it is. This is the promo Vikings Browns Sunday,
ninth thirty Eastern. Tune in at seven am Eastern for
Pacific to see us on NFL Game Day kickoff. But
the Browns at some point got to make a quarterback change,
maybe right?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Maybe yeah. I mean it feels like it's time, and
that's fine. I mean, you know, I think Dylan Gabriel
would make sense. I think everybody would like to see it,
and I think the season is not gone like you'd want.
So we'll see on that one coick thing for the Vikings.
You know, Kevin O'Connor was asked like, hey, could you
know Carson Wentz keeps starting if he plays well? And
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he's like, I don't have to answer that question essentially,
And he's right, like it'll play out like it plays
out like it's j jimccarthy's job. I think it's clear.
You hope that the injury has forced him to step
back and watch and learn, and you hope that when
he comes back he's a better version than he was
the first time around.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
But we will see last time. Ian Rappaport said it's
time to make a quarterback change was last week and
the Giants did make the quarterback change they did. If
the Browns wind up doing it here, you heard it
here first from Ian Rapaport. I mean really, but we're
going to say that. Okay, that has been it for
the Insiders podcast. We appreciate you joining us. Here's where
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the weekend. We still have Monday Night football to come
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of texts the weekend that was a lot of text
is a lot of news. So nom the metabk, the
Ravens defensive tackle. Again, I keep saying that like maybe
the casual, casual fan doesn't know who he is.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
No, I know a lot of people do not know
who he is.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
If you don't know, first of all, I made this
case on Good Morning Football the other day after they
lost to the Lions. He makes twenty four million dollars
a year and it's probably not enough. But this being said,
he does have any neck injury that is going to
knock him out for the rest of the season. John
Harball saying that today just an enormous loss there for
the Ravens because you saw the impact or the impact
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of him not being there against Detroit and this past
weekend against Kansas City. So the Ravens maybe as they
get closer to the trade deadline, look for some help
at the defensive tackle position. We shall see, but there's
just no replacing that guy. Ian. Let's get to the
Giants here, because game one of the Jackson Dart era.
We talked about it last week. We expected him to
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provide a spark to this team. He did just that.
I am now seeing the reaction to it, which was,
this is not sustainable. He's going to get hurt. He's
running too much. Look, the bottom line was, and we
mentioned this, his legs and being able to create with
his legs was a big part of their decision to
say we can go with him now because we don't
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have to put him in spread formations and have him
throwing the ball down the field and throwing the ball
forty times a game. We knew this was going to
be part of it. He did that, and he did
a nice job in Game one to get the Giants
off to an upset victory.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
A couple of things there.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
First of all, you know, we were on air all
week talking about like, you know, the spark that the
Giants want and like the good you know, you were saying,
you know, there was like a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Of juice in the locker room. That's cool for us
to say. You can really see it on the field,
Like that was all pretty real, you know, And I
thought that was cool. I mean, this is like, you know,
as a young dude running around like.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
He's fast, he's a good athlete.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I thought that was, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Sort of exactly the juice that the Giants were looking for.
The dance, I have some questions about maybe that's something
the kids do. I'm certainly older than Jackson Dart, so
maybe I'll ask my children about that dance and what
that was.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I don't think him running is a problem. Two things.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
One, I'm not convinced that a quarterback sitting back in
the pocket is any safer than a quarterback running. The
argument being you get hit from the back or the
side versus seeing people coming and being able to prepare
for it. So I will argue that running quarterbacks are
just as much in danger or whatever then guys who
sit back and just drop back. But really, like him
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opening up the entire offense for the Giants was so noticeable,
like Russ through the ball. Fine, you know obviously didn't
play well enough to not get benched, but this is
exactly what they needed in Yes, like losing the league,
neighbors hurts, and I saw you shaking your head when
I was talking about the potential positives to that. You
can argue with me if you want right now, but
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there are some positives to forcing him to read the offense,
go through it, go through his progression, figure it out,
and whatever happens to the Giants this year, every many
wins they get, clearly had it in a better direction
now than they were last week.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, that was in part one of the podcasts. You
were talking about how this may be better for Jackson
Dark because he's got to learn to run an offense
and not rely upon listen the Giants years ago traded
away Odell Beckham and tried to make the case this
is gonna make us. Remember you broke that, we're gonna
run We're gonna run our offense the way if you
broke that.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I remember you broke it, and I was so happy
for you, but also so mad because I wasn't included
in it because I went to go vote at a
local election and then you broke the trade while I
was voting for the local.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Voting in May. Your story doesn't check out. You vote November.
It it was in May primary.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
No, it was March. It was traded in May.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
May. I'm at March whatever. It's not November usually that's
where elections take place. But if it was a primary
or something, I get it. But I remember the story
coming out of it's gonna make us a better offense.
We're gonna have to run it the way like we're
not just forcing the ball to one Jackson Dark could
use Molaie neighborsut there, because right now it's gonna be
Wondale Robinson. I got it Line Target and a friend
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of yours that you met the Derby. You're gonna mention
it so I might as well do it before you
do it. Matter of fact, you sent a picture back
to me and were like, but you don't know who
this is? And I was like, that's Wandale Robinson and
you're gonna get to see him a lot more Giants
fans and fans around the NFL because surely he'll be
thrust into a bigger role alongside Darius Slayton. Maybe you know,
is there a free agent option or a trade op?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Jalen Hyatt also a little more Jalen Hyatt.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
All hi it too. The problem is that at this point,
if you're a free agent, I don't think we're still
despite winning yesterday, we're not expecting the Giants to go
to the playoffs? Like is this the team that you
want to go to or is it gonna be one
where you have a chance to win? And then would
the Giants make a trade for a guy in season
and use capital that they could use down the line
to build around him, Like there's a lot that goes
into it, but you want guys around Jackson Dart and
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they still have talented, skilled players at the tight end
position and in the backfield as well. So we'll see
how that's going to go for the Giants. It was
a or sweet victory. It's the vibe got out of
there was kind of like why can't we have nice
things like we get this victory.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I would say that sums it up.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, yeah, And it's like and Elik Neighbors get towards ACL.
So the good news is there's no it doesn't sound
like there's any other damage in the knee. It's a
clean tear. So long term, f Elie Neighbors, he'll be
back to full strength.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
The Eagles, I.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Want to get to them because it's all about style
points for them. And here's to make any sense, not
to me. And I did make the case and I
still believe this, and yesterday was part of it. That
the way their games have gone early in the season,
Jalen Hurts specifically has played the game and quarterback the
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position and made decisions whether to throw or not throw footballs,
and he didn't throw any of them in the second
where they didn't complete anything the second half, I should
say zero passing yards whatever it was. That's the set
I was going for based on like what do we
have to do to win this game? And there was
a game in Kansas City. It was a tightly contested,
defensive game, and they said, we're not gonna make any
(07:05):
mistakes here. So he and they called it that way.
They needed to have a comeback against the Rams, needed
to start airing it out and throw some fifty to
fifty balls. He did that and they had a great comeback,
and they went again this game against Tampa yesterday. They
put enough points on the board in the first half
that in the second half it was almost back to
that let's not screw this up type thing.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I don't argument is this is Sirianni coaching to win
rather than him caring about what it looks like.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Is yes, right?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And I think yes, And I think it's one, let's
do what we have to do to win. Two, it's
still early in the season. And yes, we haven't had
to really other than the Rams second half put ourselves
in a positiation position where we have to be more
of an explosive offense. We're okay with that. There were
also some fumbled kickoffs against the Rams early in the
game where they were like, oh man, we're backed up.
(07:57):
Let's not get stupid here. There's a lot going on here.
The problem is in Philadelphia. They remember two thousand or
twenty twenty three when they won a lot of games
early in the season and it was like, this isn't
passing the eye test. Now, that was more of a.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Defensive thing hours where they collapsed at the end and.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
They and they changed both coordinators and then they won
the Super Bowl in twenty four So that was more
of a defensive thing that year, and then all of
a sudden, everything kind of fell off a cliff at
the end of the year. Offensive end, defensive. This is
a little bit different. The defense has been for the
most part, other than chunks of that gaming stay really good.
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And in this case, the offense needs to come around.
AJ Brown's posting stuff on social media, which I was
just about to mention there they don't need that. There's
the post down the bottom, they don't need that. Like
he's got to stay locked.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
In What does that even mean?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So it was a Bible a Bible verse.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He's not appreciated enough.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yes, it was a it was a It was a
Bible verse. And there's a fuller context for what he's
trying to say. And he may he may come in
on Wednesday or Thursday and say, but I had nothing
to do with football or the offense. Don't care. Can't
put that out that after a game like that. Got
to understand the contest.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
He will not say that he might.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
He might if you're not welcomed. So this is a
whole Uh, this is the whole thing in the Bible.
Don't go to the gentiles of the Samerians, but only
to the people of Israel. Guys. Never mind, that's what
we're going down a rabbit hole there.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But you know this podcast for Bible analysis. This would
be that this is your time, Yes, right now is
your time.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And I would say I would say that in the
replies to his post, we're a lot of people like
there was one with the lighten up Francis meme uh,
and there was other people saying like we're four and zero.
We don't need you right now, we will need you
at some point. Stay folk like the fans were not
as much in his corner, and like, because I know
(10:04):
that they're loves in their minds over this offense and
they want this thing to be high flying and they
want to be throwing the football. So I went to
the replies, I'm like, let's see what and a lot
of people are like a J man, chill, we're four
and out, so that that part of the surprises.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Well, I mean, I don't know that anybody loves the
receiver who goes, yeah, I know we won, but I
only had this many catches. It's like, ah, Like, at
some point, it gets very tiresome.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The thing with AJ Brown is he's so good. He's
so good and.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So like I feel like he gets a little leeway
because he's so good and he's like really like a
pretty likable, pretty likable guy, even though he can get
frustrated pretty quickly. It seems I just can't believe that
the Eagles of four and oh and it feels.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like they are zero in a million, and like there's
no other team that's like this.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Like when Kansas City starts out looking like not great
and then they get to two and two, everyone's like, ah,
Chiefs will be fine, Mahomes will do mahomes and they're
just gonna hang around and they'll be in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Eagles, It's like, man, that team is in trouble.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
That offense they didn't get any passing yards in the
second half, and AJ's not and they are in trouble
and I'm like, they're four no, and physically they're about
as good as anyone. So you live and basically live
in that city, sort of you represent that city.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Certainly you can understand this better than I can. But man,
but I.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Stopped rooting for the team years ago when I entered
the media, and I just go back to I gotta
tell you, I would love a team that didn't have
the style points and was winning games over and over
when I was rooting for the Eagles in the early
nineties and close to the two thousands. So but now
you get a little spoiled. You got two Super Bowl
championships under your belt, you get a little bit spoiled
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with it, and a lot of people are going to say, like,
this is the stuff that is going to come back
to bite you when you need it when you're playing
down the stretch, which is fine. I get that, but
it's also a time to figure out how do you
become that what are we not doing to get us
at that point? And I would also say, in this league,
you gotta win games a lot of different ways. Like
the Chiefs always have that game every so often where
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it's like, oh, we're just gonna run the ball for
two hundred yards like they did it in Buffalo one year,
think during the COVID year, and it was like the
Chiefs can just morph into that kind of team. The
Patriots for that kind of team week in week out,
drive in, drive out, they would show you a completely
different offense during the Josh McDaniels era and when they
were there were really coming. So I'm okay with winning
a game where you had to come from behind, winning
(12:33):
a game where you're holding on for dear life and
you got to make the decisions like these are the
kind of things that you need to do throughout the
course of the season to win some games. We shall
see if the Eagles turn it around, put enough points
on the board and enough yards in aj brown Stack
com to make everybody happy.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
We'll be right back with more on the inside.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Welcome back to the Insiders uh the Monday of Week four,
as we continue to break down what happened in the NFL,
what we expect to happen in the NFL moving forward.
The Ravens now nom Di Matabike. We mentioned this the
latest news we knew he was on injury reserve. I mean,
this has been a slow trickle of he's not playing
this week, he's on IR he's out for the season.
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You hope that's where it stops for a good young
player to make sure that he can come back and
play in the NFL once again and play for the Ravens.
But Kyle van Noy injured, Lamar Jackson was hurt. John
Harball not really providing much of an update in that regard.
Who'd I miss? They're they're they're they're, I mean, they're
they're really banged up at this point. You mentioned Marlon
(13:44):
Humphrey too, I believe as well Ian what he's dealing with.
You're one in three and it's like, okay, we knew
one of those teams after that game, Chiefs or Ravens
was going to be one and three. Uh, but it's
one in three and like, whoa, this is not right here,
This does not look right. There's a lot of injuries.
How much can they possibly overcome? Next week they have
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the Houston Texans at home, a team that really has
played them tough there before, they got the Rams at home,
and then a bye week, so this is a almost
got to go to and zero and get into the
bye week type of situation. I mean they could go
one on one. I'm not calling these must win games,
but you really want to hit that week seven by
because on the back side of that there are winnable games.
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So this is like, let's just get to that buy
in the right shape, moving in the right direction, and
maybe we could salvage this thing.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, a couple of specifics on some of the injuries.
So first of all, it does seem like there's a
real chance. Lamar Jackson this is this week, got a
hamstring injury, John Harbaugh saying that he could not continue
in the game. Now, we didn't see him going into
the blue tents at all, but I mean, hamstring injury
could happen. Literally, any guy ran around a million times.
That could have happened at any moment, and I could
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see him just sort of dealing with it, not acknowledging
it until at some point it was like, all.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Rokwan Smith, my understanding is going to miss time with
a Grade two hamstring strain.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Marlon Humphrey is going to be out a couple weeks
with the calf injury. Mattabuik you mentioned, is out for
the season, and we'll see.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It's a lot. It is a lot now for the Ravens.
I refuse to believe that any of this matters because
they are going to be good, and they're certainly too
good to not be a playoff team. So yes, could
they go one and one this next stretch? They could?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Could they go and too? They could?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I believe the Ravens are too talented and going to
be fine. Just got a sort of hang in there.
I'm interested in Zach Or, their defensive coordinator. He is
a little in battled. They've had to get him some
sort of older wiser help, not wiser, but older help,
recently in the form of DNPS. I wonder if maybe
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during the bye week or something like, they make them
as there because this team is too talented to be
giving up guys who are just running free, and so I.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Think they're going to be okay because I love the roster.
But it is a weird time for the Ravens right now.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, we ran down the list of injuries there. I
want to show you something because Ravens, I would look
internally for the motto that you need right now? What
does that say?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Nobody cares work harder?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Nobody cares work harder? If you're not watching us on video.
Here it is Lamar Jackson wearing it at a press conference.
That is a motto inside the Castle, which is what
they call their training facility there at in Owens Mills, Maryland.
Nobody cares. Work harder, Nobody cares that you're injured. A
lot of other teams are injured right now, doesn't matter.
You are the Ravens, You are well coached, You have
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depth because of your ability to scout and put together
a fifty three man roster. You have got to find
a way to win these games. Now, look on the
back end. I talked about that bye week. Here's the
back end of it. Okay, And if you're fans of
any teams, or if you're players or coaches a person of it,
I'm not insulting you. I'm just saying, here's the back
end of it. Home against the Bears, at the Dolphins.
Two more row games after that at the Vikings, at
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the Browns. These are not a lot of playoff teams
potentially that we're talking about Home against the Jets, Home
against the Bengals. I would assume that's still gonna be
without Joe Burrow. Get into December home against the Steelers
at the Bengals home against the Patriots at Packers at
Steelers close. There's winnable games, there's enough to get you
into the postseason. There nobody cares work harder Baltimore Ravens.
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I mentioned the Steelers there at some point during that
schedule rip. They played the first NFL regular season game
in Dublin. An entertaining game for sure. Carson Wentz at
the end with a chance to pull some stuff out,
not quite able to make it happen. The Steelers were
able to put the ball in the air. We're able
to have big plays, explosive plays on offense, which is good.
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That's why you've got DK Metcalf here did a nice
job without Jalen Warre. And they're starting running back Kenneth Gamewell.
Thanks Ian for suggesting I don't start. I picked them
up off the wire, pick them up, and I go
I should start Kenny Gamewell. This is the team that
runs the ball, and I liked what I saw from
him early in the season when he played in Spurts.
I should start.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Casting them playing really well.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Didn't do it. Went with Travon Henderson again, who actually
had one of his better games, but still nowhere near
the production So frankly, I'm going to be one in
three in fantasy boomy. Your thoughts, your thoughts in the
entire Dublin experience. Another successful international game for the NFL,
which has got a ton of them coming up here.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It does, that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
The Vikings are actually staying out there and go and
hang out in England playing the Cleveland Browns as a
matter of fact, next week.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So it seemed good.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
You know, people always ask like, well, you know, what
was the Dublin game, Like, I've never been to an
international game while working in NFL network, so I truly
have no idea. I just know it looked cool on TV,
which is the most important thing to me, Like it
looked awesome. Got to hear Greg Olsen talk about why
he tried Guinness and doesn't really like it very much.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I thought that was one of the best moments of
the game.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And that's fair because I also have tried Guinness and
drank other beers. Guinness is fine, it's just like really
just not for everyone. So I appreciated his take there.
It seems like the teams had a really good experience
being over there, so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Seemed pretty good, right.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
It did, yes, And I thought the crowd was into it,
and I you know, I covered the first of these.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
By the way, definitely the most pro any team crowd
except for London and Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Like that was a pro Steelers crowd.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Felt like I get that. Yeah, and I would agree
with that. It's a weird text. I would also say that.
And I covered the first international game in two thousand
and seven, Giants Dolphins, and it was a weird scene
and not a lot of folks into it. Jerseys from
all over first international game, Yeah, Giants Dolphins. Horrendous field
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conditions at Wembley. It's another thing. The fields have gotten better.
We had to slip yesterday. Who slipped? Justin Jefferson? I
believe I was like, oh, otherwise, good footing the rest
of the game. So people have explained like a lot
of these stadiums are it's a different kind of grass
for soccer, and so it's more of a it's not
a plotting thing. It's more of a gliding surface, and
(20:31):
so when you try to play it beyond my understanding
of things. But I think they've done a nice job
with the surfaces. Internationally, and you haven't had those kinds
of issues where we said, hey, maybe we shouldn't be
playing the NFL games at Wembley where they're not used
to playing NFL games, where way beyond that, the quality
of the games has been excellent. You play a nine
thirty AM game and it's you're watching the night game
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and you see highlights of that game, it's like, oh,
I remember that game. It feels like it happened like
three weeks ago. That's how long these days tend to be.
But it's nice to have NFL football in the morning.
Here your thoughts on the Steelers overall, because this is
a team that has not been shy about talking Super
Bowl and talking high expectations, and it's a team that
a lot of folks say they'll be good, they'll be
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around nine to eight like they always are. Can they
put it all together? Can they get above that?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yes? I feel fine about the Steelers. I thought.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I liked the game plan and Judy told us some
about this in pregame show, moving dk Metcalf around, featuring him,
putting him in different positions in the offense and getting
the balltim Millenium run. I liked that if they can
stop the run, as they did some yesterday. I think
they're going to be fine or more than fine, as
long as Aaron Rodgers stays healthy.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
And that's kind of what I mean. They looked like, honestly,
look like every Steelers team has for the last like
five years. It's just like, can they get good quarterback
plane if Rogers avoid some of the lower body injuries
that he had last year, like hamstring, ankle, like I
kill us before that, I think they are.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Going to be in the playoffs and a team that
you would not want to play. Are think gonna win games?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Like?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I don't know, but I think they will be a
team you do not want to play, which that is
for doing all the.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Things that did in the offseason. That is progress.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I want to get your take on the vikings and
the things j jjban officially ruled out. I mean, I
know we said it was unlikely he was going to play.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I don't know if it's not officially no.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I mean, it usually doesn't happen till Friday, but I
didn't know if Kevin O'Connell basically had said it. I
missed the postgame press conference yesterday. This felt like and
this is going to be a gotta have a game
against the Browns here on the second half of their
European tour here. They were favored in this game against
the Steelers, to which I actually said to you, I
don't understand why they're considered favorites in this game. I
(22:45):
feel like it would be more of a toss up.
Not that I'm ever right about this stuff, but it
just so happened in this case the Vikings and Carson
Wentz and the long term plan for JJ McCarthy. I mean,
I guess you don't necessarily like you want your backup
to play well, but in this case, it's like you
didn't want him to play.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Play too well.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
They'd never say that you don't want to play too
well because you've got to get JJ McCarthy back in there,
got to get him feeling good once he's healthy and
moving in the right direction. Because this this injury, and
there is an injury. I know some people are skeptical
there is an injury. Has given him a chance to
hit the pause button and to basically reset and come
back and hopefully play better. In this case for the
(23:23):
Vikings down the stretch on the other end of the game,
the Browns. Time for a quarterback change for the Browns.
Here it is. This is the promo Vikings Browns Sunday,
ninth thirty Eastern. Tune in at seven am Eastern for
Pacific to see us on NFL Game Day kickoff. But
the Browns at some point got to make a quarterback change,
maybe right?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Maybe yeah. I mean it feels like it's time, and
that's fine. I mean, you know, I think Dylan Gabriel
would make sense. I think everybody would like to see it,
and I think the season is not gone like you'd want.
So we'll see on that one coick thing for the Vikings.
You know, Kevin O'Connor was asked like, hey, could you
know Carson Wentz keeps starting if he plays well? And
(24:09):
he's like, I don't have to answer that question essentially,
And he's right, like it'll play out like it plays
out like it's j jimccarthy's job. I think it's clear.
You hope that the injury has forced him to step
back and watch and learn, and you hope that when
he comes back he's a better version than he was
the first time around.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
But we will see last time. Ian Rappaport said it's
time to make a quarterback change was last week and
the Giants did make the quarterback change they did. If
the Browns wind up doing it here, you heard it
here first from Ian Rapaport. I mean really, but we're
going to say that. Okay, that has been it for
the Insiders podcast. We appreciate you joining us. Here's where
(24:47):
you can find us if you're watching us on video
every single day of the week. We are back on
Tuesday night on NFL Network with Tom with Ian or
you off tomorrow. Maybe you are off tomorrow so to
be be checking in, perhaps from London. I don't know.
I haven't really looked at tomorrow's show plan, but I
promise you I will do it. Is she gonna be
I don't know. Maybe I'm just gonna throw it out
(25:07):
there and give her a call. Hey, Judy, we promote
it to now you gotta be on it. But she
is hustling all over Europe. She is spending another week
out there. She will be in London for that Vikings
Browns game, providing all the coverage out there, and we
will have all the coverage wrapping up Week four into
Week five. As we get through the week on the Insiders.
Thank you very much for joining us for ein rapport,
(25:28):
Tom Pelsero, Janeis Slater and Judy wherever she may be.
This has been the Insiders podcast. Thank you,
Hosts And Creators
Judy Battista
Tom Pelissero
Ian Rapaport
Mike Garafolo
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