April 19, 2016 • 43 mins
Mike and Nate relive their NFL Draft day moments then are joined by NFL Network super producer Shaneika Dabney-Henderson to discuss J.J. Watt's social media antics. They also discuss "Hard Knocks," Earl Thomas' king outfit and Odell Beckham's dancing. Plus, listen to Nate Burleson's new song.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It was popping. This is your boy named bur liston
I'm real Mike Rob and this is the R and
B Podcast. And that was good man. I know you
heard it together with your voice, which I was good.
I sound like Oscar to grouch a little bit cook
your monster TV dropped that beat man. Yeah, oh no, no, yeah,
(00:28):
well I had a long day, not really trying to
go hi by my lady. I dress stop for man
on the town town and now ain't going down. See now, baby,
I got some stats for you and also real players,
super speci fast for your teach at this game go down.
As they analyzed the winners, they might shout my name
out because you're bad, mommy making jump tune into the
(00:51):
R and B Show. We shout to tune into the
V show show to tune. Oh see, oh day, Come
on man, we got an old song, bro, and it
never gets old, It never gets old. Eight Nate, welcome
back your second What was this your second week or us?
(01:12):
Your first week back? First week in studio? Man? Sorry, man,
I know your voice a little messed up. I gotta
get a surgery on my voice. Oh man, I'm gonna
pray for you. Dog. You're all good is an outpatient.
It's it's a day in, day out. I go, Okay,
I got noduls on my vocal cords, so they got
a scrape the nodules off my vocal cords. That sounds gross. Yeah,
(01:33):
well it's over usage. Over usage. I mean, I've been
working here. I've been I've been doing what I do
in the podcast TV and I record the song. I
see you recorded a song, dog, I mean it was
I mean it was dope. But where where was? Why?
How come I didn't know that a video was being shot?
They let me? Let me help you out here. Let
me know. I'm just saying, because Mike is we gotta
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do it right with it. What it's you on there.
We can't just put you in there in the cameo.
It's got to be set up. So this was like
my name is and right, and the next single was
gonna be like the Guilty Conscience. Yeah, t D Man,
it sounds like you're buttering me up. That's messed up. Okay,
I'm just saying, Dog, I mean, hey, may you get
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the start in and then we're bringing the big guns. Mike,
I'm telling you, Guilty Conscience. You needed to hype man's
why your voice is gone. You had to hype yourself
up and wrap andrew the ad libs all of that.
That's my point. That's That's what I'm here for you, right, Mike.
We're gonna we're gonna do it, all right, dog. I hey,
look man, I'm here. You just let me know. You
(02:38):
just let me know. Man, This is the R and
B Podcast. Yeah dog, yeah dog. So look, today, producer
T D tell the people what they need to do. Alright, guys,
what you guys people need to do is check out
Nate's new song and then, you know, because in the
future it's gonna be more, gonna be more of that
coming up. And also what you need to do is
just subscribe to the show. Tell your friend to hell
(03:00):
a friend, leave comments, ratings this. We're not just asking
for this for no reason. We legitimately needed. So please
tell the people, you know, tell you people to subscribe
to the show. Yeah man, all of that. Look, coming
up on today's show, we got Shanika Dabney Henderson s
D eight, NFL Network super Superior Producer. We're gonna be
talking some draft moments and hard knocks. J J. Watt.
(03:22):
Of course, Nates We've already talked about your new song, man,
and look you left me out. Man, I'm gonna be
upset about that for a while. I mean, I'm just
not gonna let you let you just get up out
of here without that understandable. It's the R and B.
So we we we're gonna we're gonna work it out, Mike,
I got you. We gotta have that, man, we gotta
have a TV. Do we get a beat before we
go into the draft segment? Man? Oh, no rapping, No
(03:46):
rapping voice protective voice protectives are beat though. Probably could
rip it off. This could I could you could rip
it off? Bro? Oh oh oh, so like doing the
(04:10):
matrix like bending way back? You know what I'm saying,
Watch what it does right here? Yeah. Uh, it's got
to a days about rapt I know right, Nate, we
can't have you wrap it down. He look, man, the
draft is eleven days away. Uh tell us, you know,
(04:32):
talk to the people. Man, how was the draft like
at this moment? Draft? What was the process like right now?
For those young cats? Man, it's uh, it's nerve racking. Mike.
You remember, um, the first time I realized that I
had a chance to be drafted was my junior year.
I came out early, and I remember my agent saying,
your life is about to change. And I'm thinking to myself, like,
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what do you mean are you come out early? Bro?
You came out early? Well? I led the nation my
tune year, and I knew that I had to take
advantage of the opportunity to make as much money as
I can. And being in the White Conference at Nevadarino,
I was thinking to myself, is it possible for me
to get one hundred and thirty eight catches in one season? Again? No,
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At that time, it was second all time in the
n C Double A. So my agent is like, look,
you come out. You're a late first rounder, second rounder
at the latest, third, and you'll be able to set
up your family for a long time. Not only will
you be able to set up your family, but you
have a chance of really having a long career. And
(05:37):
I was like, you know what, I'm gonna do it.
There's no other reason why I would stay. So I
went out and I declared for the draft, and there's
all these teams saying, hey, well, you're one of the
best receivers in this class. We're not sure about the
competition level at Nevada. But what we do know is
that you are a legitimate wide receiver and your versatile
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and some teams, I remember San Francisco in particular, said
they were gonna give me in the first round. I'm
thinking first round. Uh so when you so, look, when
you thought about first round? Did you? Did you what
you're thinking? Bl blink you already know. I was thinking
to myself like, this was before that rookie cap and
(06:21):
all that stuff kicking. So first round, if you got
drave in the first round, you're making money. So for me,
I'm thinking, all right, if I get drafted in the
first round, I'm gonna be on some buy a mansion,
a fancy car or Rolex. I'm young. I didn't come
from a ton of money. You know. My mom and
dad worked two jobs and over time was a necessity.
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So for me, like my concept of having new money
was buying new things. Obviously at thirty four, I think
differently now, But I was twenty one, like new one
when I got drafted. So um, I was sitting at
home first round went by, I was like, okay, I
didn't expect to go so I wasn't that mad. The
second round went by. I wasn't upset about second round
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going by, was more upset that other receivers that I
felt like I was better than when now there's guys
that went before me that were legitimately better than me,
Andre Johnson and Boding Monsters phenomenal careers. And then third
round came by. I was sleep like upset, sleep likes off.
(07:28):
I want to watch this. So I laid down my
phone rang I think I got a flip on cell
phone at a fliph on cell phone and uh, They're like, hello,
it's this nip bro. So I'm like, yeah, um my
mom and dad are They're looking at me like what's
going on? Who's that? What's that? And I was like,
I don't know how you doing. This is Mike Tyson
with the Minnesota Vikings. Are you ready to be a Viking?
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And I said, uh, yeah, yeah I am. He said, oh,
you don't sound so excited, young man. I said, oh,
I just took a nap. He said he took a nap,
turning felt draft and I was like, yeah, I'm sorry
about that. He's like, well, let's it's time for you
to wake up. You want to be a Viking and
I was like cool. At that moment, that's when everything changed.
(08:11):
What's up with your story, dude? So you know me, man,
I people didn't know what position I was gonna play.
Running back, quarterback, defensive back. I mean I backpedal for
teams everything. Um, I knew I was gonna be a
role player or whatever. All I asked is that they
watched me throw the ball. So at my pro at
my pro day, man, I threw the ball. I ran routes,
I did running back stuff, I did receiver stuff. I
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backpedal for some people, I didn't. I did the entire
nine man. So you know, for me leading up to
the draft, not only did I not only was their
anxiety about where I was gonna play, like whether with
state I was gonna play in, but it was also
anxiety about what position I was gonna play Because people
don't understand man Cepenn State, Man, great university. You know,
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love all my experiences there. Um, I never practiced at
another position other than quarter back. And I practiced a
little bit at whide receiver my junior year when I
left the team and receiving, but I've always practiced that
quarterback And just the Thursday or Friday before the game,
they said, you're playing this other position. You're playing running back.
And I had to go adjust. Or you're gonna slop,
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you're gonna start the slot receiver. Or you're gonna return kicks. Oh,
you're gonna return punts. I mean all of that, man.
And Uh, it was tough because I just didn't know.
It was the unknown. I had went to the Senior Bowl,
had the forty niners. Um they called coach Uh. I
played against that their coaching staff. Their coaching staff had
no idea they wanted me. Um. And I remember I
(09:37):
had a little get together at a hotel in State
College because that's why I was training, and all my
people from Richmond came up. You know. That's when the
first three rounds was on the first day, you know.
And I didn't get drafted at all. Oh dude, I
had just bought a car. Just drove the car off
off the showroom floor, Nate. It was two thousand and seven.
(09:58):
Um uh Tahoe Chevy Tahoe. Yeah. Man. At the time,
you know, I was doing my think brand new. It
was two thousand and six, it was still brand new, right,
Just drove it off, right, and I'm thinking, I'm not
gonna be able to pay for this truck. I had
no clue. I had no nowherewithal no, you know, nothing
(10:19):
understanding of the other rounds and finances and all that.
I just saw it. Hey, yo, I didn't go. I
didn't get draft to have all these people show up.
I didn't get drafted on that Saturday night, man, I
cried bro. I mean, dude, it heard because I could have.
You know, I took a couple of visits um to
a couple of teams in Miami, Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh had
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traded their second round pick for two threes, and I
just thought for sure I was one of those third rounders.
And the next morning I'll sleep, I said, you know what,
I'm not even gonna even wake up for the draft,
and and it woke. You know, the draft was early
the next day. I'm pissed. I had twenty three miss
calls from a four or eight number. I'm like with it.
(11:00):
I had still I hadn't even turned on the television yet.
I had no idea what was going on. Something like, man,
whatever it calls again, I pick up. It's Mike Nolan.
You know what I mean? Scott mcclaud those guys. Hey, man,
we're gonna pick you pretty earlier today. I said whatever, whatever,
Wait wait, you said whatever. If you was gonna pick
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me while you give me yesterday, you know what I'm saying.
When I had all these people show up, you know
what I mean? You know, but again, I still had
no clue that I mean a fourth rounder, Bro, that's
a that's good money. That's good money. That's it's a
good bit and it's a good pick. Right. So they
just said he said, I remember Scott laughing, Scott mclau laughing. Hey, Mike, Mike,
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look just turn on your television. Man, I'm gonna we're
gonna get off the phone with you. Just turn on
your television. Because you know they had they had at
the Senior Bowl. Man, we had eight dinner together, we
had hung out. I mean, they knew exactly who I was.
They knew I was a no nonsense type of guy.
I knew I was gonna tell him exactly what was
on my mind. And so I hung up, you know,
by a peace, took a shower. I look out, I
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heard it. I think it was I forget who it was.
It wasn't it wasn't a commissioner. It wasn't Paul Tackling,
but at the time it was like the assistant commissioner
or whatever that they did the second day and they
called my name, and I'm like, oh, with a hundred
pick I'm like Mike rob Oh. And then the first
thing I did was I called my agent. I'm not
gonna lie. And for my far listeners out there, this
(12:29):
lets you know, like kind of the background and some
of the guys that come into the league where we
come from. Right. I had no idea of my finances
or money. The first thing I did was called my agent, Like,
what's that signing bonus? Gonna look black? Hey, seriously, I
needed to know the difference between third round, in fourth
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round and fifth round? Was it my signing bonus? I
think my signing bonus? Uh was like for yeah, four
and some change like forty five. And I was rolling.
I felt like I was rolling in money, man, And
I thought to myself, they just gave me after hold up,
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but after taxes you didn't take on no obviously, ast
how are you doing? We we just got joined, but
we just got joined. Oh say yo, we get a
woman's opinion on some of these topics. Damn Henderson is
in the building. But but but checked this out, man, seriously,
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no concept of finances And look, I'm I'm gonna digress
a second man. Okay, I went to my Penn State
this past weekend. I through an event. Um I've introduced
my foundation to state college, our signature program where where
we basically created a fantasy football learning platform for high
schoolers the middle schoolers. But anyway, I came back and
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it was our two thousand five. They did a little
reunion and did a little something was coming back, right,
they announced us during the spring, the spring football game
and all of those things. And Bro, first of all,
I've seen guys that I hadn't seen in over ten years. Okay,
but one thing I left there thinking about one thing
that was on my mind heavily. Bro as I as
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I adapted and Bro hugged all my guys. Right, that
was a quarterback, that was you know, it was my team.
I felt I felt personally responsible for those guys. Right,
every person was doing well, making money, succeeding in life,
CEOs or or or or part of the part of
(14:38):
the financial sector. Um UM teachers, UH, football coaches, all
influence and the impacting young people. Right, And as I think,
and I you know, I hope all the football players
that listened to us are listed R and B podcasts.
You have to play this game for more than just finances,
because that's what made me think about it. You have
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to play this game. You have to go for a
deeper impact though. And I think about coach paternal or
my my, my head coach in college, and he had
a grand experiment right there. We're gonna be able to
play football, right, and in school is gonna mean something.
You're gonna get degrees, right, and you're gonna be impactful
in society. And I'm just it's crazy. I come back
(15:20):
ten years later and you see everybody, and that's what happened.
We want to Orange both finished third in the country, boom,
top of you know, guys got drafted all of that. Right,
you come back ten years later and everybody I'm talking about,
everybody is doing well off. That's awesome. That's awesome. So
my bad, my bad, my bad. Shneika, how are you
what's going on? Tired? You're tired? I mean I'm tired.
(15:44):
You're tired. I feel like I just I feel like walking.
Just walking with this baby makes me feel like I
played a super Bowl every every so look, just just
so you know, I took a biologist sex class and
college school me okay, and I had to wear a
pregnancy suit around campus for a day. I felt, I
feel you feel I feel you, Nate. I'm telling you, bros,
(16:09):
how many months were you I was not? I was in.
I was in my last time. Yes, I was there.
And I couldn't bend over the top of my shoes,
none of that. I had to get coaches to help
me all of that. Bro, it was bad. I had
Ashley needs the other day. I ain't even know. I know,
I didn't even know. Walk around, got to my destination,
(16:33):
put my feet up, and I was like, now, somebody
could have told me something something because they know I
can't see. Well, look, man, let me get you all thoughts. So, um,
we're in l a Okay. They put off a huge
trade last week, huge straight all right, um put coming
up to the number one pick. They're also going to
be on Hard Knocks this season. I have my own
(16:54):
views about Hard Knocks because you know, I like Hard
Knocks honestly, right, I love it. I feel as a fan,
you love it, right, But I don't know, Nate, if
you were a player trying to make the team, would
you want all your business? I don't care like that.
I mean seriously, because when you get there, I've gotten
a call. Hey may bring. But if if you're established,
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if you're established player, it doesn't matter. Your brand becomes
bigger's if you're an established player. But come on, man,
how many of these guys on these teams out of
fifty three guys are established players? Yeah, all of a
lot of guys are interchangeable. Now, see I look at
it like this, man, I look at it like this,
and I'm making in trouble for saying that. But I
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don't care. And she gotta get your opinion on this. Also,
I'm jumping all over the place. I feel like since
guys are making more money, right, guys are making more money.
You see guys like Megatron, see guys like Marshawn. Okay,
you got fifty something million. I was in the bank.
Why would I keep on banging myself up? Right? So
I feel like you're gonna see guys exit in that way.
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But then you look at the bottom of the league, right,
the guys who are in the league four and five
years right when they try to get that second contract.
It's easy. It's more it's economically better for a team
to just draft another rookie. So where did those guys come?
So that's what I'm saying. And I know we got
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we jumped back and forth from l A or whatever.
But I don't know. Most of the team are guys
that are interchangeable. I don't know if hard knocks would
be great for those guys or would it be a distraction.
I don't know. That's just that's just me. I would
think though, and I don't know. I mean, I'm not
a player, but I would think that there has to
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be an attraction to the celebrity of it. It's show business,
you know, And that's the part of being an athlete now,
is the show business side of it. Now. I don't
think i'd want to be the dude who's like getting
cut on TV and crying. But but if you bring
it and you say you want to have a part
in it, that goes along with everything. You know what
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I'm saying, Come on what you think listen. I'll say this.
When I was in Detroit, UM, we were on the
list to have hard knocks in Detroit, and UH coach
Jim Schwartz, our head coach, denied it. He said, nah,
you know, we need to focus on winning. We uh,
we got a young team and we have other things
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that are more important as a vet on the team.
I was disappointed. I was building my brand. I just
started my clothing line. I thought to myself, I'm about
to take advantage of this opportunity to make my name,
my brand, my post career um even bigger than what
it already is. But then I talked to other guys
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like Matt Stafford, Calvin Johnson. They said, no, we don't
want it. I didn't, I don't want it. Calvin doesn't
like attention. Matt Stafford is a guy that just wants
to play ball. So I think it was a mixed
bag of individuals that I love the idea, and other
guys said, no, we don't want to be on blast
like that. We don't. We're already magnified when you have
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hard knocks in your building, cameras everywhere and not just
at the facility. The main stars like Calvin and Sue
and and Stafford, they got cameras in their cars. So UM,
I understand the mindset. But for me to your point, Mike,
if guys are contemplating leaving this game early and take
advantage of the dollars, then they want to have that that,
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you know, shine on them. So if you retire seven
eight years into it, which is you know, not necessarily
a long career, but some would say you retire early
if you're still capable playing, then this could build your brand.
Like how many how many players are you more familiar
with because of Hard Knocks? That's a lot. Aren't guys
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doing their own reality now anyway? There snapchatting there, put
they make on Twitter. You don't have to be on
Hard Knocks at this point to have your own reality show. Okay,
and you bring up you bring up snap I know
you guys heard of J J. Wat. You remember J J.
Watt doing this his social media stuff he posted during
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his you know, a video of his workout dunk Kobe's
last game? Right? Uh? You think JJ doing too much? Man?
I mean you think you're doing too much. I don't
know what happened. What happened? Let me go you in
right here? So doing Kobe's final game where you're dropping sixty,
Everyone's watching j J. Watt goes on Snap and he's like, well,
I'm not trying to watch Kobe. I'm trying to be
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like Kobe. So it's like dj J, come on, we
know you're working hard. And then just yesterday with the
you know, the weather situation in Houston, he posted, you know,
a snap of him being at the facility working out,
and like, j J, we get it, bro, you're a
hard worker. I mean didn't even look at him on
Hard Knocks last year though. I mean, you don't get
me wrong. I know you work hard. I know you're
doing everything, but it's it was dramatic. I'm like, zoo, snap,
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you know I'm this guy. I mean it was like
rocking the freezer. I didn't see. I didn't know that.
I didn't know he posted a snap. You know, it's
kind of saying, hey, well I'm not watching. That's kind
of alright, j J. Relax, everybody get yeah. I mean,
I mean, from a woman's standpoint, how how do you
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view J J Watt? Listen. I think it's like that
friend who we all have that I have, who's like
at the gym or running or whatever, and on Facebook
or whatever, you gotta see a picture every five minutes
of the gym, Saltie, like, that's what I feel about. Look,
I get you. Your body is banging, it's tighter, are
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doing it boo? But I know too much. You know
more than I need to I ever needed to know.
We get it, yeah, man, And don't get me wrong,
I know. I think JJ is probably the most dominant,
dominant guy, dominant defensive player in this league. But does
he really have to have his persona grow anymore? I mean,
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does he have to? Does he have to be the
one promoted because it's already there. Your thing is over promotion.
Though you're right, he's not gonna lose from it. He
can't lose from it, and it isn't necessarily like negative, right, right,
he's doing it in a way. But when you heard
when you nate, you just heard that he posted a
snap during the Kobe's last game, we already know how
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Kobe is seen amongst athletes. Right, your first reaction was,
I mean it's a it's a different era now. I mean,
social media is the biggest tool in vehicle for you know, stars,
and you would think, oh J j W, you're established,
you don't need to do that. But once you get
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on that path of promoting yourself, it's hard to jump off.
So I get where he's coming from. You just gotta
be a little bit more selective. But like Shinika said,
it's not negative, so I can't be too mad at it.
But you know what, Nate, or so hold on Anna
flip for a second, right, because I gotta put you
on the spot dog. And we had a discussion about
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this last week. You promised we was gonna have somebody
on the shoulder this week. Oh yeah, let me check
my text message was gonna have somebody on the shoulder
this week. Man, Well, Nate's checking his sex though. The
question about j j O. People say that's what makes
him him, right, like it's that part of his sona,
that's what makes I mean, this is a guy who
you know, didn't necessarily have the you know, the highest
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rated high school collegiate playing career, and then now he's
the best defender in the game. Like maybe that's inspiring
somebody like, oh wow, look how hard he works and
look at the level he's at, So maybe you know
for those Yeah, some people called out Ray Ray ray
Lewis in his day for doing too much and obviously
it was in a different way. And you know, ray
Lewison do no wrong to me, but there are some
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people out there he thought that Ray Ray was too
much with it. How did you guys feel about that,
that Ray was too much? Yeah, to hear a good
friend of mine though. Man, it's tough, but look Ray,
he's a legend. Man. It's hard to say anything bad
as going too much, but but I do, and I
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have heard guys on this team. I have her tell him.
That's like, come on down a little bit. To imagine
if Snapchat and Instagram was at its height when to
our owns was playing. You want to talk about a
guy who, uh, he captivated everybody when there wasn't even
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a vehicle for him to promote himself. He was using
just normal day to day TV, local news, and he
was making you know, NFL Network Sports Center every single night,
and everybody thought, man, you're doing too much. But his
brand is built and on top of that, he was
a monster on the field. So for me, I feel like,
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just like Shnika said, there's no such thing as over promotion. Now,
there such thing as over saturation. People can get. Over
promotion is just building your branch continuing, you know, every
single day, trying to promote yourself so people can buy
into whatever you're selling, whether that's your sneaker line or
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your your clothing are just your your personality. But over
saturation is people getting too used to you and turning
you off because you're always in your face, in their face,
like promoting yourself in a wrong way. And that's my opinion,
crossed into the over saturation territory towards the tail end
(26:41):
of his he did he did? And also what the
thing about Ocho? His his numbers telled off to the
thing about to Yo. He put up numbers everywhere he went. Man, Yeah,
you didn't like him too much, but if you threw
them the ball enough, he was gonna win games for you.
And I think Ocho that that's kind where he messed up,
you know what I mean. His his his actual play
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dropped off. And if you're gonna be promoting yourself and
putting yourself out there like that, first and foremost we
play football, Yeah, you better have a product, you better
be out there putting put putting yourself out there like that.
So I don't know, I think that's still close to
being the same thing. Nate, No, I really do. Man,
if you're putting yourself out there is and that's saturating.
If you over promoting yourself in't that saturating it? No, No,
(27:27):
because you can. It's all. It's all about brand building anyway.
You know what I what I try to tell these
young guys when they come out is, um, this is
a small window of time in your life. It seems
like it's forever when you're in it. Mike. You know,
when you're playing in the NFL, you're like, this is
the beginning and this is the end. All. I love
this sport. But what we have to tell these guys
(27:49):
is the light at the end of the tunnel is
small when you first get in, but then towards the
end it gets bigger and brighter, and then eventually you're like,
oh man, I'm I'm out this tone it's over. I
can't jump as I run as fast, I don't have
the same following. So when you're in it, take advantage
because here's the thing. The league will forever sell your image.
(28:11):
The NFL. We signed our rights over right, they have
our images forever. So they got your highlights, Mike, They're
gonna run them until they can't run them anymore. The
super Bowl you went to and what you guys did,
and you pumping up the team and being in the huddle.
So what I thought halfway through my career is if
they're gonna sell my image, keep making money off of
(28:32):
my image and my videos and my highlights forever, even
when I'm dead, then I have to I have to
grab every single fan, every single following while I'm innute.
And if I can take that out of the league
when I'm done, then I can benefit from it. And
that's how built the things that I have. You know,
I created Lying Blood when I was in Detroit because
(28:55):
I'm a Leo and I played for lines and majority
of the people that buy that brand, our fans that
follow me when I was in Michigan that sd It
also helped him create the videos, the wrapping and all
that that he has on YouTube. One of feels YouTube
right now that I'm not in. I'm not even in
the video. How did you feel about that? Biggest stuff
(29:20):
off just been through very you. You weren't even down, Mike, Listen,
It's all good, It's all good. Next segment, next segment.
I don't even try to apologize mate a t D.
We will drop a beat before we do that. I
gotta say, and I was saying, like he's got to
be a part of it. We can just have him
sliding for a cameo. It's got to be set up right.
(29:41):
We're trying to do your service, mic Rob. I think
that's problem. You know what I'm saying. Why it was
a little Willie was here. That what I'm saying. Won't
you wait a couple of days? You're helping us out?
Oh I would just go ahead on My best man
can't be in town for the wedding. But I'm just
going on, you get another best man. You know what
I'm saying. That's kind of a saw a good name.
(30:13):
All right, here we go, Here we go. Before we
get to her new segment, it's not a new segment.
Were doing it for a couple of couple of shows. Now,
Mike Rob, tell the people what it is or no,
all right, what's going on TV? What you got for
is this week? I have two on ours this week?
You want to start off with Earl Thomas, my man
dressed up as a king crown and all at his
(30:35):
own wedding. To look what Nick's got with her day
talking there we go. I like, he has a crown already.
I like it. I like we're gonna do it alright.
That's that's all I like. So the question is, was
that a good look like Shanika right now with the
crown over with my man, Earl Thomas potentially stealing the
(30:57):
spotlight away from his bride, So you can't tell us
it's not it's not still in the spotlight. I think
I think, Nate, you said, you said it perfectly on
Total Access last night. You're setting up, You're letting them know.
I mean, I'm your king. I'm gonna try to protect you.
I'm gonna do everything I can um to be there
for you. I'm gonna serve you, all of that type
of stuff. And I thought, you know, I thought it
(31:18):
was cool. It's a it's a message. I don't know
how many kids he has, but I know he has
at least one. Um, he's the king, she's the queen.
And he walked down that aisle saying, listen, this is
royalty and we're building something special here and we have
royalty in our blood. And you know, to be honest,
being a young African American athlete, you're trying to set
(31:40):
the standard because there's a lot of misconceptions. You know,
people have these perceptions of you know, guys who make
it big and have money. And I think he's trying
to dispel that and say, you know what, I am
a king and you know, not to get too deep
on us, but we're weren't cut from that clause. Yeah,
(32:00):
that's where a lineage is. So um you know, I
love it. So if I had to decide, uh yeah
or not, I'll say yeah. I like his approach and
his mindset, and it's sending a huge message to a
lot of people that need to hear if your man
came down, I'm gonna give my own man or not
on it. But I'm gonna give him an or not.
(32:26):
But but for all Thomas, I think it works, you
know what I mean. I mean, I think he's big personality,
and I think that all goes with him. I think
he owned it personally. Why why why it just wouldn't
have worked. Why would look like a straight clown? You
(32:47):
would have looked like a straight clown. Damn. But Earl Thomas,
he had the swag to go with it. He was
feeling it. You know. I'm just trying to picture Mike
because he Mike did walk down the aisle at our wedding,
but I'm trying to like picture him with Nahou. He
would look up your guy, he would have looked and
felt uncomfortable, and it wouldn't I got you. I I thought, okay, yeah,
(33:11):
I thought you yeah, okay. I'm all down for her,
you know, like the whole royalty thing. But the pictures
I saw his Brian wasn't necessarily dressed up as a queen.
She looked like she had a regular, you know, wedding
gown on. You know she should you know, shouted the
Tierra rockets and everything. That's what I'm saying. She had
that look going to She just naturally looked you know
(33:33):
what I mean. She didn't need all that extra Who
didn't let me need to pick it up? And not
because we're bringing so much on our wedding day, you
all need some extra flare? Yeah, you're right, all hear that?
All right? The second one in this show is all right.
We also Odell Beckham's video dancing at Drake's house. Rob
gren Kelsey was also out there. Apparently Steph Curry was
out there shooting in Drake's backyard. So I'm asking you guys,
(33:55):
did you guys ever hang out with celebrities or not?
I didn't really hang out. I don't know. I mean
i've met him. I've met some celebrities, I mean Odell
and Rob and Steph gather at the same time. But
Odell took a photo of Rob. Then there's another video
(34:16):
of Odell's dancing with his homeboys, like dance choreography type stuff,
routine and every song I umping up and I didn't
read that. Yeah, he had a corey. It was a choreograph. Yeah,
he jumped in and he did he cartweeled into the video.
I'm not even jumping Mike, what are you laughing about?
(34:38):
Just say he cartwheeled in the video? He did. I
gotta go look at this when I can't imagine this
looking dope. I just can't imagine that dope, all right? So, um,
is Odell dancing too much like what we don't like? He? Oh,
there was really good A lot of things. He can
play baseball, he can pitch, he can hit. Um, he's
(35:01):
a hooper, he got hops. I've seen him punk. He
kicked like a forty yard field goal. Um, he might
be one of like the most versatile athletes. He got swag,
got the hair, and he could dance. Is he come?
But why why you gotta ad and he can dance?
He didn't know? You know what I'm saying because we've
seen him dance, or what I'm saying, is he dancing?
(35:23):
Look if he was just like doing the robot, I
mean he could. He has good dance moves. So I'm
entertained by it. I'm entertained by it. I'm not gonna
so if there's like a link, he says, Odell, dancing again,
you're gonna You're gonna I'm gonna look at it. If
it was whack, then I'd be like, all right, Odell,
you know what I mean. But I mean it's like,
you know what you think this man dancing? You know
(35:46):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say or
not just because like I've seen him dance plenty and
there's nothing wrong with it. But at this point it's like, man, O'Dell,
like just relax on a breakdance and you know I
(36:09):
love everything else though, oh just trying to save it. Hey,
I'm just saying, man, why he got why everything gotta
be why I gotta be a lot of posted dances.
I mean, you could dance just you know, you know
you because he's got Yeah. I think he's proud of
his dance. And here and here it is like you
(36:29):
knew the new generation knew like you know, fans of
that there did not like back in the days, a
challenge beating old start doing a whole one, right, That's
how we fended down Michael Jackson in the bad video.
That's what's about to happen there. I would say this though,
just like we talked about earlier with social media, um O'Dell,
(36:52):
he is building his brand in a phenomenal way. And
there's and there's a demographic that wants to see him dance.
There's just like there's a demographic that won't see him play.
There's also people that just they love the social side
of what deal. They don't even care that he's a
good I'm not gonna lie. My kids love it, Yeah,
they love everything. My son the other day was like, hey, Dad,
(37:12):
I want to grow my hair out and die at
the tips. That's exactly what my kids said. I said, yeah,
you can do it, I said, because old deal. He said, yeah,
I said, of course, I get it, and I respect
that he's having an impact on my child. That's a
little Nate. His name is little Nate, and he's he
wants to look like a little old deal and I'm
I'm good with it. And again, he's not doing anything negative.
He's just dancing. So and that house so like, who
(37:35):
wouldn't want to dance? He had a waterfall in the background.
Who I mean, how come you to? I can wait
and get it. Invite now, I don't know. I am
Canadian too, I should have got damn. You know. I
was watching the video and I was like, I saw
del dance. I'm like, okay, I know he could dance.
So I mean, I'm like looking at the landscape, I'm like, yo,
that crib is crazy bananas. I ain't gonna lie. I
(37:58):
would like to kick with at Drake's house. You would
of you know, I'll try to get a deal over
your name, like I'm trying to get signed Ovial Nate.
That sounds kind of smooth. Ovio Nate. What is a
New Balance? Yeah, Ovio Nate? Where didn't where did the
New Balance name come from? Uh Man's a curious n B.
(38:21):
You know his Nick Burless and New Balance is nb UM.
When I first started rapping, which was like high school,
I thought to myself, like, because I like lyrics, I'm
cut from like that type of hip hop cloth hip
hop cloth, and I was like, you know what, I'm
gonna bring a new balance to the game. I don't
do the whole like just spit gibberish and make it
rhyme with a nice beat, like I want to say
(38:42):
something that's clever and you gotta like either or why did?
I'll be like yo, that was kind of that was
that was tight. So I was like, Yea'm gonna bring
a new balance to the game. And uh, that's how
I came up. That's dope name. I'm gonna saw calling
you new bounding new bound After that, I gotta listen,
though I did. I was just checking my Instagram and uh,
Snoop came in shout out on his I g to
(39:04):
that he did he Snoopy here wrapped up chilling. He
was like, Yo, Nate, you did your thing, like shout out,
that's dope. That's I'm I'm on cloud nine right now.
BRONC hit me up like crazy. Can you hit him
up and ask him who presses his hair because I'm
(39:26):
just looking for something saying it's always laid. Just ask him.
I'll ask you. I'm gonna trying to get a collaboration.
I think he'll do it. You know. That's that's the
O g Willie like Willie and it's here at the network.
That's his board. Don't we gotta clip tod We gotta
clip from it from the Instagram. Shout out to Nate
Burglers and that rap you did to recap the season
(39:47):
on the NFL channel. That was dope. But that was hard.
N B New Balance, that was hard this season recap
wrap on NFL network. You did that. Yeah, yeah, I
made it. You made it. Man, I'm gonna retire while
I'm gonna talk past. They look like like my guy said,
(40:13):
then the juice Now you got to light you go. Hey.
That was that's it for this week's show. Sta thank
you for coming by. So somebody unique, a unique perspective.
Subscribe on iTunes, spread the word, leave a message, all
of that I got. I got surgery coming up on
(40:34):
my voice. Yeah, pray for Nate, pay for Ny You'll
be all right. Man. Let's let's hear that single. Man.
Oh We're gonna drop that. Can we hear that CD?
Drop that recap? Give me it's your boyd made pig.
I like this and I'm gonna break it down for you, Congress,
(40:55):
the Bunker's country, believe that the season ain't really over
to you. The precap before m predict to wins the
next room. Let me break down again the thousand fifteen
and Winston Oh expect nor keep your eyes on the
rooks like the chess board, ninus qbs in a complete
flip flop. They removed cat faster than the twist. Top
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packers started hot, indemisible. Ail Mary's became a leg game
ritual hussell, what's the second tier? Now? I might keep better?
That's a rating ice coat like what he bought. Sierra
Coats made a few moves to the poop the roster,
but they looked right now too soon. The prosper caught
a game in d C. It flew right back when
Atlantic Perth had me yelling at you like an just
(41:37):
keep pounding, no more ignoring. Cam kept Dancingcaus Cam kept
scoring Big Ben in Antonio. Then boys, the truth he
throwing up like what can brown do for you? Fits
so by the time. Not yet, honey. He went off
like runa shoulder, my bad tony defensive player again with
the J. J. Watt well deserved honey Badger. After that spot,
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d v's making niln for hits and bits. Josh Norman
Patrick being Richard Sherman legit can't forget my white House.
Who put in Burke or Sail and Julio both went
for something then shout out the shacky Kobe Damian Lillard Labe,
I'll ball a k juice ball plays to wrap very
(42:20):
Arry be canceled for hard over fear. Congrats to being
comeback player the year Kobe, Sea Wood and Lynch leaving
the game. Let's just say twenty four will never be
the same. Speak in the retirement Gotta mention c J.
Megan Tron your highlights were living the replays, Ronckles d
one of the best of all times. Nobody's ella than Miller,
mccomflix smaller time. He Manning gave us eighteen years afore,
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thank you, sheriff, But now who will uphold the law?
You ready for the season? Yelped me to keep that
lock right here because this is what we do. So
that's it. NFL fifteen reviews. Stay tuned for the two
thousand sixteen preview. I'm gone. I told Talk a Rap,
you didn't believe me. The It's your boy, Napi a
(43:05):
k A New Balance. Listen to everything. Mr Versatility, the
hardest working man in Hollywood. I can play football, I
can talk sports, and I can rap. Thank you for listening.
It was popping. This is your boy named bur liston
I'm real Mike Rob and this is the R and
B Podcast. And that was good man. I know you
heard it together with your voice, which I was good.
I sound like Oscar to grouch a little bit cook
your monster TV dropped that beat man. Yeah, oh no, no, yeah,
(00:28):
well I had a long day, not really trying to
go hi by my lady. I dress stop for man
on the town town and now ain't going down. See now, baby,
I got some stats for you and also real players,
super speci fast for your teach at this game go down.
As they analyzed the winners, they might shout my name
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(00:51):
R and B Show. We shout to tune into the
V show show to tune. Oh see, oh day, Come
on man, we got an old song, bro, and it
never gets old, It never gets old. Eight Nate, welcome
back your second What was this your second week or us?
(01:12):
Your first week back? First week in studio? Man? Sorry, man,
I know your voice a little messed up. I gotta
get a surgery on my voice. Oh man, I'm gonna
pray for you. Dog. You're all good is an outpatient.
It's it's a day in, day out. I go, Okay,
I got noduls on my vocal cords, so they got
a scrape the nodules off my vocal cords. That sounds gross. Yeah,
(01:33):
well it's over usage. Over usage. I mean, I've been
working here. I've been I've been doing what I do
in the podcast TV and I record the song. I
see you recorded a song, dog, I mean it was
I mean it was dope. But where where was? Why?
How come I didn't know that a video was being shot?
They let me? Let me help you out here. Let
me know. I'm just saying, because Mike is we gotta
(01:55):
do it right with it. What it's you on there.
We can't just put you in there in the cameo.
It's got to be set up. So this was like
my name is and right, and the next single was
gonna be like the Guilty Conscience. Yeah, t D Man,
it sounds like you're buttering me up. That's messed up. Okay,
I'm just saying, Dog, I mean, hey, may you get
(02:16):
the start in and then we're bringing the big guns. Mike,
I'm telling you, Guilty Conscience. You needed to hype man's
why your voice is gone. You had to hype yourself
up and wrap andrew the ad libs all of that.
That's my point. That's That's what I'm here for you, right, Mike.
We're gonna we're gonna do it, all right, dog. I hey,
look man, I'm here. You just let me know. You
(02:38):
just let me know. Man, This is the R and
B Podcast. Yeah dog, yeah dog. So look, today, producer
T D tell the people what they need to do. Alright, guys,
what you guys people need to do is check out
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(03:00):
a friend, leave comments, ratings this. We're not just asking
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to the show. Yeah man, all of that. Look, coming
up on today's show, we got Shanika Dabney Henderson s
D eight, NFL Network super Superior Producer. We're gonna be
talking some draft moments and hard knocks. J J. Watt.
(03:22):
Of course, Nates We've already talked about your new song, man,
and look you left me out. Man, I'm gonna be
upset about that for a while. I mean, I'm just
not gonna let you let you just get up out
of here without that understandable. It's the R and B.
So we we we're gonna we're gonna work it out, Mike,
I got you. We gotta have that, man, we gotta
have a TV. Do we get a beat before we
go into the draft segment? Man? Oh, no rapping, No
(03:46):
rapping voice protective voice protectives are beat though. Probably could
rip it off. This could I could you could rip
it off? Bro? Oh oh oh, so like doing the
(04:10):
matrix like bending way back? You know what I'm saying,
Watch what it does right here? Yeah. Uh, it's got
to a days about rapt I know right, Nate, we
can't have you wrap it down. He look, man, the
draft is eleven days away. Uh tell us, you know,
(04:32):
talk to the people. Man, how was the draft like
at this moment? Draft? What was the process like right now?
For those young cats? Man, it's uh, it's nerve racking. Mike.
You remember, um, the first time I realized that I
had a chance to be drafted was my junior year.
I came out early, and I remember my agent saying,
your life is about to change. And I'm thinking to myself, like,
(04:55):
what do you mean are you come out early? Bro?
You came out early? Well? I led the nation my
tune year, and I knew that I had to take
advantage of the opportunity to make as much money as
I can. And being in the White Conference at Nevadarino,
I was thinking to myself, is it possible for me
to get one hundred and thirty eight catches in one season? Again? No,
(05:17):
At that time, it was second all time in the
n C Double A. So my agent is like, look,
you come out. You're a late first rounder, second rounder
at the latest, third, and you'll be able to set
up your family for a long time. Not only will
you be able to set up your family, but you
have a chance of really having a long career. And
(05:37):
I was like, you know what, I'm gonna do it.
There's no other reason why I would stay. So I
went out and I declared for the draft, and there's
all these teams saying, hey, well, you're one of the
best receivers in this class. We're not sure about the
competition level at Nevada. But what we do know is
that you are a legitimate wide receiver and your versatile
(06:00):
and some teams, I remember San Francisco in particular, said
they were gonna give me in the first round. I'm
thinking first round. Uh so when you so, look, when
you thought about first round? Did you? Did you what
you're thinking? Bl blink you already know. I was thinking
to myself like, this was before that rookie cap and
(06:21):
all that stuff kicking. So first round, if you got
drave in the first round, you're making money. So for me,
I'm thinking, all right, if I get drafted in the
first round, I'm gonna be on some buy a mansion,
a fancy car or Rolex. I'm young. I didn't come
from a ton of money. You know. My mom and
dad worked two jobs and over time was a necessity.
(06:43):
So for me, like my concept of having new money
was buying new things. Obviously at thirty four, I think
differently now, But I was twenty one, like new one
when I got drafted. So um, I was sitting at
home first round went by, I was like, okay, I
didn't expect to go so I wasn't that mad. The
second round went by. I wasn't upset about second round
(07:06):
going by, was more upset that other receivers that I
felt like I was better than when now there's guys
that went before me that were legitimately better than me,
Andre Johnson and Boding Monsters phenomenal careers. And then third
round came by. I was sleep like upset, sleep likes off.
(07:28):
I want to watch this. So I laid down my
phone rang I think I got a flip on cell
phone at a fliph on cell phone and uh, They're like, hello,
it's this nip bro. So I'm like, yeah, um my
mom and dad are They're looking at me like what's
going on? Who's that? What's that? And I was like,
I don't know how you doing. This is Mike Tyson
with the Minnesota Vikings. Are you ready to be a Viking?
(07:50):
And I said, uh, yeah, yeah I am. He said, oh,
you don't sound so excited, young man. I said, oh,
I just took a nap. He said he took a nap,
turning felt draft and I was like, yeah, I'm sorry
about that. He's like, well, let's it's time for you
to wake up. You want to be a Viking and
I was like cool. At that moment, that's when everything changed.
(08:11):
What's up with your story, dude? So you know me, man,
I people didn't know what position I was gonna play.
Running back, quarterback, defensive back. I mean I backpedal for
teams everything. Um, I knew I was gonna be a
role player or whatever. All I asked is that they
watched me throw the ball. So at my pro at
my pro day, man, I threw the ball. I ran routes,
I did running back stuff, I did receiver stuff. I
(08:32):
backpedal for some people, I didn't. I did the entire
nine man. So you know, for me leading up to
the draft, not only did I not only was their
anxiety about where I was gonna play, like whether with
state I was gonna play in, but it was also
anxiety about what position I was gonna play Because people
don't understand man Cepenn State, Man, great university. You know,
(08:54):
love all my experiences there. Um, I never practiced at
another position other than quarter back. And I practiced a
little bit at whide receiver my junior year when I
left the team and receiving, but I've always practiced that
quarterback And just the Thursday or Friday before the game,
they said, you're playing this other position. You're playing running back.
And I had to go adjust. Or you're gonna slop,
(09:15):
you're gonna start the slot receiver. Or you're gonna return kicks. Oh,
you're gonna return punts. I mean all of that, man.
And Uh, it was tough because I just didn't know.
It was the unknown. I had went to the Senior Bowl,
had the forty niners. Um they called coach Uh. I
played against that their coaching staff. Their coaching staff had
no idea they wanted me. Um. And I remember I
(09:37):
had a little get together at a hotel in State
College because that's why I was training, and all my
people from Richmond came up. You know. That's when the
first three rounds was on the first day, you know.
And I didn't get drafted at all. Oh dude, I
had just bought a car. Just drove the car off
off the showroom floor, Nate. It was two thousand and seven.
(09:58):
Um uh Tahoe Chevy Tahoe. Yeah. Man. At the time,
you know, I was doing my think brand new. It
was two thousand and six, it was still brand new, right,
Just drove it off, right, and I'm thinking, I'm not
gonna be able to pay for this truck. I had
no clue. I had no nowherewithal no, you know, nothing
(10:19):
understanding of the other rounds and finances and all that.
I just saw it. Hey, yo, I didn't go. I
didn't get draft to have all these people show up.
I didn't get drafted on that Saturday night, man, I
cried bro. I mean, dude, it heard because I could have.
You know, I took a couple of visits um to
a couple of teams in Miami, Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh had
(10:40):
traded their second round pick for two threes, and I
just thought for sure I was one of those third rounders.
And the next morning I'll sleep, I said, you know what,
I'm not even gonna even wake up for the draft,
and and it woke. You know, the draft was early
the next day. I'm pissed. I had twenty three miss
calls from a four or eight number. I'm like with it.
(11:00):
I had still I hadn't even turned on the television yet.
I had no idea what was going on. Something like, man,
whatever it calls again, I pick up. It's Mike Nolan.
You know what I mean? Scott mcclaud those guys. Hey, man,
we're gonna pick you pretty earlier today. I said whatever, whatever,
Wait wait, you said whatever. If you was gonna pick
(11:25):
me while you give me yesterday, you know what I'm saying.
When I had all these people show up, you know
what I mean? You know, but again, I still had
no clue that I mean a fourth rounder, Bro, that's
a that's good money. That's good money. That's it's a
good bit and it's a good pick. Right. So they
just said he said, I remember Scott laughing, Scott mclau laughing. Hey, Mike, Mike,
(11:46):
look just turn on your television. Man, I'm gonna we're
gonna get off the phone with you. Just turn on
your television. Because you know they had they had at
the Senior Bowl. Man, we had eight dinner together, we
had hung out. I mean, they knew exactly who I was.
They knew I was a no nonsense type of guy.
I knew I was gonna tell him exactly what was
on my mind. And so I hung up, you know,
by a peace, took a shower. I look out, I
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heard it. I think it was I forget who it was.
It wasn't it wasn't a commissioner. It wasn't Paul Tackling,
but at the time it was like the assistant commissioner
or whatever that they did the second day and they
called my name, and I'm like, oh, with a hundred
pick I'm like Mike rob Oh. And then the first
thing I did was I called my agent. I'm not
gonna lie. And for my far listeners out there, this
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lets you know, like kind of the background and some
of the guys that come into the league where we
come from. Right. I had no idea of my finances
or money. The first thing I did was called my agent, Like,
what's that signing bonus? Gonna look black? Hey, seriously, I
needed to know the difference between third round, in fourth
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round and fifth round? Was it my signing bonus? I
think my signing bonus? Uh was like for yeah, four
and some change like forty five. And I was rolling.
I felt like I was rolling in money, man, And
I thought to myself, they just gave me after hold up,
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but after taxes you didn't take on no obviously, ast
how are you doing? We we just got joined, but
we just got joined. Oh say yo, we get a
woman's opinion on some of these topics. Damn Henderson is
in the building. But but but checked this out, man, seriously,
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no concept of finances And look, I'm I'm gonna digress
a second man. Okay, I went to my Penn State
this past weekend. I through an event. Um I've introduced
my foundation to state college, our signature program where where
we basically created a fantasy football learning platform for high
schoolers the middle schoolers. But anyway, I came back and
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it was our two thousand five. They did a little
reunion and did a little something was coming back, right,
they announced us during the spring, the spring football game
and all of those things. And Bro, first of all,
I've seen guys that I hadn't seen in over ten years. Okay,
but one thing I left there thinking about one thing
that was on my mind heavily. Bro as I as
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I adapted and Bro hugged all my guys. Right, that
was a quarterback, that was you know, it was my team.
I felt I felt personally responsible for those guys. Right,
every person was doing well, making money, succeeding in life,
CEOs or or or or part of the part of
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the financial sector. Um UM teachers, UH, football coaches, all
influence and the impacting young people. Right, And as I think,
and I you know, I hope all the football players
that listened to us are listed R and B podcasts.
You have to play this game for more than just finances,
because that's what made me think about it. You have
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to play this game. You have to go for a
deeper impact though. And I think about coach paternal or
my my, my head coach in college, and he had
a grand experiment right there. We're gonna be able to
play football, right, and in school is gonna mean something.
You're gonna get degrees, right, and you're gonna be impactful
in society. And I'm just it's crazy. I come back
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ten years later and you see everybody, and that's what happened.
We want to Orange both finished third in the country, boom,
top of you know, guys got drafted all of that. Right,
you come back ten years later and everybody I'm talking about,
everybody is doing well off. That's awesome. That's awesome. So
my bad, my bad, my bad. Shneika, how are you
what's going on? Tired? You're tired? I mean I'm tired.
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You're tired. I feel like I just I feel like walking.
Just walking with this baby makes me feel like I
played a super Bowl every every so look, just just
so you know, I took a biologist sex class and
college school me okay, and I had to wear a
pregnancy suit around campus for a day. I felt, I
feel you feel I feel you, Nate. I'm telling you, bros,
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how many months were you I was not? I was in.
I was in my last time. Yes, I was there.
And I couldn't bend over the top of my shoes,
none of that. I had to get coaches to help
me all of that. Bro, it was bad. I had
Ashley needs the other day. I ain't even know. I know,
I didn't even know. Walk around, got to my destination,
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put my feet up, and I was like, now, somebody
could have told me something something because they know I
can't see. Well, look, man, let me get you all thoughts. So, um,
we're in l a Okay. They put off a huge
trade last week, huge straight all right, um put coming
up to the number one pick. They're also going to
be on Hard Knocks this season. I have my own
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views about Hard Knocks because you know, I like Hard
Knocks honestly, right, I love it. I feel as a fan,
you love it, right, But I don't know, Nate, if
you were a player trying to make the team, would
you want all your business? I don't care like that.
I mean seriously, because when you get there, I've gotten
a call. Hey may bring. But if if you're established,
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if you're established player, it doesn't matter. Your brand becomes
bigger's if you're an established player. But come on, man,
how many of these guys on these teams out of
fifty three guys are established players? Yeah, all of a
lot of guys are interchangeable. Now, see I look at
it like this, man, I look at it like this,
and I'm making in trouble for saying that. But I
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don't care. And she gotta get your opinion on this. Also,
I'm jumping all over the place. I feel like since
guys are making more money, right, guys are making more money.
You see guys like Megatron, see guys like Marshawn. Okay,
you got fifty something million. I was in the bank.
Why would I keep on banging myself up? Right? So
I feel like you're gonna see guys exit in that way.
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But then you look at the bottom of the league, right,
the guys who are in the league four and five
years right when they try to get that second contract.
It's easy. It's more it's economically better for a team
to just draft another rookie. So where did those guys come?
So that's what I'm saying. And I know we got
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we jumped back and forth from l A or whatever.
But I don't know. Most of the team are guys
that are interchangeable. I don't know if hard knocks would
be great for those guys or would it be a distraction.
I don't know. That's just that's just me. I would
think though, and I don't know. I mean, I'm not
a player, but I would think that there has to
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be an attraction to the celebrity of it. It's show business,
you know, And that's the part of being an athlete now,
is the show business side of it. Now. I don't
think i'd want to be the dude who's like getting
cut on TV and crying. But but if you bring
it and you say you want to have a part
in it, that goes along with everything. You know what
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I'm saying, Come on what you think listen. I'll say this.
When I was in Detroit, UM, we were on the
list to have hard knocks in Detroit, and UH coach
Jim Schwartz, our head coach, denied it. He said, nah,
you know, we need to focus on winning. We uh,
we got a young team and we have other things
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that are more important as a vet on the team.
I was disappointed. I was building my brand. I just
started my clothing line. I thought to myself, I'm about
to take advantage of this opportunity to make my name,
my brand, my post career um even bigger than what
it already is. But then I talked to other guys
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like Matt Stafford, Calvin Johnson. They said, no, we don't
want it. I didn't, I don't want it. Calvin doesn't
like attention. Matt Stafford is a guy that just wants
to play ball. So I think it was a mixed
bag of individuals that I love the idea, and other
guys said, no, we don't want to be on blast
like that. We don't. We're already magnified when you have
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hard knocks in your building, cameras everywhere and not just
at the facility. The main stars like Calvin and Sue
and and Stafford, they got cameras in their cars. So UM,
I understand the mindset. But for me to your point, Mike,
if guys are contemplating leaving this game early and take
advantage of the dollars, then they want to have that that,
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you know, shine on them. So if you retire seven
eight years into it, which is you know, not necessarily
a long career, but some would say you retire early
if you're still capable playing, then this could build your brand.
Like how many how many players are you more familiar
with because of Hard Knocks? That's a lot. Aren't guys
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doing their own reality now anyway? There snapchatting there, put
they make on Twitter. You don't have to be on
Hard Knocks at this point to have your own reality show. Okay,
and you bring up you bring up snap I know
you guys heard of J J. Wat. You remember J J.
Watt doing this his social media stuff he posted during
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his you know, a video of his workout dunk Kobe's
last game? Right? Uh? You think JJ doing too much? Man?
I mean you think you're doing too much. I don't
know what happened. What happened? Let me go you in
right here? So doing Kobe's final game where you're dropping sixty,
Everyone's watching j J. Watt goes on Snap and he's like, well,
I'm not trying to watch Kobe. I'm trying to be
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like Kobe. So it's like dj J, come on, we
know you're working hard. And then just yesterday with the
you know, the weather situation in Houston, he posted, you know,
a snap of him being at the facility working out,
and like, j J, we get it, bro, you're a
hard worker. I mean didn't even look at him on
Hard Knocks last year though. I mean, you don't get
me wrong. I know you work hard. I know you're
doing everything, but it's it was dramatic. I'm like, zoo, snap,
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you know I'm this guy. I mean it was like
rocking the freezer. I didn't see. I didn't know that.
I didn't know he posted a snap. You know, it's
kind of saying, hey, well I'm not watching. That's kind
of alright, j J. Relax, everybody get yeah. I mean,
I mean, from a woman's standpoint, how how do you
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view J J Watt? Listen. I think it's like that
friend who we all have that I have, who's like
at the gym or running or whatever, and on Facebook
or whatever, you gotta see a picture every five minutes
of the gym, Saltie, like, that's what I feel about. Look,
I get you. Your body is banging, it's tighter, are
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doing it boo? But I know too much. You know
more than I need to I ever needed to know.
We get it, yeah, man, And don't get me wrong,
I know. I think JJ is probably the most dominant,
dominant guy, dominant defensive player in this league. But does
he really have to have his persona grow anymore? I mean,
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does he have to? Does he have to be the
one promoted because it's already there. Your thing is over promotion.
Though you're right, he's not gonna lose from it. He
can't lose from it, and it isn't necessarily like negative, right, right,
he's doing it in a way. But when you heard
when you nate, you just heard that he posted a
snap during the Kobe's last game, we already know how
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Kobe is seen amongst athletes. Right, your first reaction was,
I mean it's a it's a different era now. I mean,
social media is the biggest tool in vehicle for you know, stars,
and you would think, oh J j W, you're established,
you don't need to do that. But once you get
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on that path of promoting yourself, it's hard to jump off.
So I get where he's coming from. You just gotta
be a little bit more selective. But like Shinika said,
it's not negative, so I can't be too mad at it.
But you know what, Nate, or so hold on Anna
flip for a second, right, because I gotta put you
on the spot dog. And we had a discussion about
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this last week. You promised we was gonna have somebody
on the shoulder this week. Oh yeah, let me check
my text message was gonna have somebody on the shoulder
this week. Man, Well, Nate's checking his sex though. The
question about j j O. People say that's what makes
him him, right, like it's that part of his sona,
that's what makes I mean, this is a guy who
you know, didn't necessarily have the you know, the highest
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rated high school collegiate playing career, and then now he's
the best defender in the game. Like maybe that's inspiring
somebody like, oh wow, look how hard he works and
look at the level he's at, So maybe you know
for those Yeah, some people called out Ray Ray ray
Lewis in his day for doing too much and obviously
it was in a different way. And you know, ray
Lewison do no wrong to me, but there are some
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people out there he thought that Ray Ray was too
much with it. How did you guys feel about that,
that Ray was too much? Yeah, to hear a good
friend of mine though. Man, it's tough, but look Ray,
he's a legend. Man. It's hard to say anything bad
as going too much, but but I do, and I
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have heard guys on this team. I have her tell him.
That's like, come on down a little bit. To imagine
if Snapchat and Instagram was at its height when to
our owns was playing. You want to talk about a
guy who, uh, he captivated everybody when there wasn't even
(25:32):
a vehicle for him to promote himself. He was using
just normal day to day TV, local news, and he
was making you know, NFL Network Sports Center every single night,
and everybody thought, man, you're doing too much. But his
brand is built and on top of that, he was
a monster on the field. So for me, I feel like,
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just like Shnika said, there's no such thing as over promotion. Now,
there such thing as over saturation. People can get. Over
promotion is just building your branch continuing, you know, every
single day, trying to promote yourself so people can buy
into whatever you're selling, whether that's your sneaker line or
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your your clothing are just your your personality. But over
saturation is people getting too used to you and turning
you off because you're always in your face, in their face,
like promoting yourself in a wrong way. And that's my opinion,
crossed into the over saturation territory towards the tail end
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of his he did he did? And also what the
thing about Ocho? His his numbers telled off to the
thing about to Yo. He put up numbers everywhere he went. Man, Yeah,
you didn't like him too much, but if you threw
them the ball enough, he was gonna win games for you.
And I think Ocho that that's kind where he messed up,
you know what I mean. His his his actual play
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dropped off. And if you're gonna be promoting yourself and
putting yourself out there like that, first and foremost we
play football, Yeah, you better have a product, you better
be out there putting put putting yourself out there like that.
So I don't know, I think that's still close to
being the same thing. Nate, No, I really do. Man,
if you're putting yourself out there is and that's saturating.
If you over promoting yourself in't that saturating it? No, No,
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because you can. It's all. It's all about brand building anyway.
You know what I what I try to tell these
young guys when they come out is, um, this is
a small window of time in your life. It seems
like it's forever when you're in it. Mike. You know,
when you're playing in the NFL, you're like, this is
the beginning and this is the end. All. I love
this sport. But what we have to tell these guys
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is the light at the end of the tunnel is
small when you first get in, but then towards the
end it gets bigger and brighter, and then eventually you're like,
oh man, I'm I'm out this tone it's over. I
can't jump as I run as fast, I don't have
the same following. So when you're in it, take advantage
because here's the thing. The league will forever sell your image.
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The NFL. We signed our rights over right, they have
our images forever. So they got your highlights, Mike, They're
gonna run them until they can't run them anymore. The
super Bowl you went to and what you guys did,
and you pumping up the team and being in the huddle.
So what I thought halfway through my career is if
they're gonna sell my image, keep making money off of
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my image and my videos and my highlights forever, even
when I'm dead, then I have to I have to
grab every single fan, every single following while I'm innute.
And if I can take that out of the league
when I'm done, then I can benefit from it. And
that's how built the things that I have. You know,
I created Lying Blood when I was in Detroit because
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I'm a Leo and I played for lines and majority
of the people that buy that brand, our fans that
follow me when I was in Michigan that sd It
also helped him create the videos, the wrapping and all
that that he has on YouTube. One of feels YouTube
right now that I'm not in. I'm not even in
the video. How did you feel about that? Biggest stuff
(29:20):
off just been through very you. You weren't even down, Mike, Listen,
It's all good, It's all good. Next segment, next segment.
I don't even try to apologize mate a t D.
We will drop a beat before we do that. I
gotta say, and I was saying, like he's got to
be a part of it. We can just have him
sliding for a cameo. It's got to be set up right.
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We're trying to do your service, mic Rob. I think
that's problem. You know what I'm saying. Why it was
a little Willie was here. That what I'm saying. Won't
you wait a couple of days? You're helping us out?
Oh I would just go ahead on My best man
can't be in town for the wedding. But I'm just
going on, you get another best man. You know what
I'm saying. That's kind of a saw a good name.
(30:13):
All right, here we go, Here we go. Before we
get to her new segment, it's not a new segment.
Were doing it for a couple of couple of shows. Now,
Mike Rob, tell the people what it is or no,
all right, what's going on TV? What you got for
is this week? I have two on ours this week?
You want to start off with Earl Thomas, my man
dressed up as a king crown and all at his
(30:35):
own wedding. To look what Nick's got with her day
talking there we go. I like, he has a crown already.
I like it. I like we're gonna do it alright.
That's that's all I like. So the question is, was
that a good look like Shanika right now with the
crown over with my man, Earl Thomas potentially stealing the
(30:57):
spotlight away from his bride, So you can't tell us
it's not it's not still in the spotlight. I think
I think, Nate, you said, you said it perfectly on
Total Access last night. You're setting up, You're letting them know.
I mean, I'm your king. I'm gonna try to protect you.
I'm gonna do everything I can um to be there
for you. I'm gonna serve you, all of that type
of stuff. And I thought, you know, I thought it
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was cool. It's a it's a message. I don't know
how many kids he has, but I know he has
at least one. Um, he's the king, she's the queen.
And he walked down that aisle saying, listen, this is
royalty and we're building something special here and we have
royalty in our blood. And you know, to be honest,
being a young African American athlete, you're trying to set
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the standard because there's a lot of misconceptions. You know,
people have these perceptions of you know, guys who make
it big and have money. And I think he's trying
to dispel that and say, you know what, I am
a king and you know, not to get too deep
on us, but we're weren't cut from that clause. Yeah,
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that's where a lineage is. So um you know, I
love it. So if I had to decide, uh yeah
or not, I'll say yeah. I like his approach and
his mindset, and it's sending a huge message to a
lot of people that need to hear if your man
came down, I'm gonna give my own man or not
on it. But I'm gonna give him an or not.
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But but for all Thomas, I think it works, you
know what I mean. I mean, I think he's big personality,
and I think that all goes with him. I think
he owned it personally. Why why why it just wouldn't
have worked. Why would look like a straight clown? You
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would have looked like a straight clown. Damn. But Earl Thomas,
he had the swag to go with it. He was
feeling it. You know. I'm just trying to picture Mike
because he Mike did walk down the aisle at our wedding,
but I'm trying to like picture him with Nahou. He
would look up your guy, he would have looked and
felt uncomfortable, and it wouldn't I got you. I I thought, okay, yeah,
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I thought you yeah, okay. I'm all down for her,
you know, like the whole royalty thing. But the pictures
I saw his Brian wasn't necessarily dressed up as a queen.
She looked like she had a regular, you know, wedding
gown on. You know she should you know, shouted the
Tierra rockets and everything. That's what I'm saying. She had
that look going to She just naturally looked you know
(33:33):
what I mean. She didn't need all that extra Who
didn't let me need to pick it up? And not
because we're bringing so much on our wedding day, you
all need some extra flare? Yeah, you're right, all hear that?
All right? The second one in this show is all right.
We also Odell Beckham's video dancing at Drake's house. Rob
gren Kelsey was also out there. Apparently Steph Curry was
out there shooting in Drake's backyard. So I'm asking you guys,
(33:55):
did you guys ever hang out with celebrities or not?
I didn't really hang out. I don't know. I mean
i've met him. I've met some celebrities, I mean Odell
and Rob and Steph gather at the same time. But
Odell took a photo of Rob. Then there's another video
(34:16):
of Odell's dancing with his homeboys, like dance choreography type stuff,
routine and every song I umping up and I didn't
read that. Yeah, he had a corey. It was a choreograph. Yeah,
he jumped in and he did he cartweeled into the video.
I'm not even jumping Mike, what are you laughing about?
(34:38):
Just say he cartwheeled in the video? He did. I
gotta go look at this when I can't imagine this
looking dope. I just can't imagine that dope, all right? So, um,
is Odell dancing too much like what we don't like? He? Oh,
there was really good A lot of things. He can
play baseball, he can pitch, he can hit. Um, he's
(35:01):
a hooper, he got hops. I've seen him punk. He
kicked like a forty yard field goal. Um, he might
be one of like the most versatile athletes. He got swag,
got the hair, and he could dance. Is he come?
But why why you gotta ad and he can dance?
He didn't know? You know what I'm saying because we've
seen him dance, or what I'm saying, is he dancing?
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Look if he was just like doing the robot, I
mean he could. He has good dance moves. So I'm
entertained by it. I'm entertained by it. I'm not gonna
so if there's like a link, he says, Odell, dancing again,
you're gonna You're gonna I'm gonna look at it. If
it was whack, then I'd be like, all right, Odell,
you know what I mean. But I mean it's like,
you know what you think this man dancing? You know
(35:46):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say or
not just because like I've seen him dance plenty and
there's nothing wrong with it. But at this point it's like, man, O'Dell,
like just relax on a breakdance and you know I
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love everything else though, oh just trying to save it. Hey,
I'm just saying, man, why he got why everything gotta
be why I gotta be a lot of posted dances.
I mean, you could dance just you know, you know
you because he's got Yeah. I think he's proud of
his dance. And here and here it is like you
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knew the new generation knew like you know, fans of
that there did not like back in the days, a
challenge beating old start doing a whole one, right, That's
how we fended down Michael Jackson in the bad video.
That's what's about to happen there. I would say this though,
just like we talked about earlier with social media, um O'Dell,
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he is building his brand in a phenomenal way. And
there's and there's a demographic that wants to see him dance.
There's just like there's a demographic that won't see him play.
There's also people that just they love the social side
of what deal. They don't even care that he's a
good I'm not gonna lie. My kids love it, Yeah,
they love everything. My son the other day was like, hey, Dad,
(37:12):
I want to grow my hair out and die at
the tips. That's exactly what my kids said. I said, yeah,
you can do it, I said, because old deal. He said, yeah,
I said, of course, I get it, and I respect
that he's having an impact on my child. That's a
little Nate. His name is little Nate, and he's he
wants to look like a little old deal and I'm
I'm good with it. And again, he's not doing anything negative.
He's just dancing. So and that house so like, who
(37:35):
wouldn't want to dance? He had a waterfall in the background.
Who I mean, how come you to? I can wait
and get it. Invite now, I don't know. I am
Canadian too, I should have got damn. You know. I
was watching the video and I was like, I saw
del dance. I'm like, okay, I know he could dance.
So I mean, I'm like looking at the landscape, I'm like, yo,
that crib is crazy bananas. I ain't gonna lie. I
(37:58):
would like to kick with at Drake's house. You would
of you know, I'll try to get a deal over
your name, like I'm trying to get signed Ovial Nate.
That sounds kind of smooth. Ovio Nate. What is a
New Balance? Yeah, Ovio Nate? Where didn't where did the
New Balance name come from? Uh Man's a curious n B.
(38:21):
You know his Nick Burless and New Balance is nb UM.
When I first started rapping, which was like high school,
I thought to myself, like, because I like lyrics, I'm
cut from like that type of hip hop cloth hip
hop cloth, and I was like, you know what, I'm
gonna bring a new balance to the game. I don't
do the whole like just spit gibberish and make it
rhyme with a nice beat, like I want to say
(38:42):
something that's clever and you gotta like either or why did?
I'll be like yo, that was kind of that was
that was tight. So I was like, Yea'm gonna bring
a new balance to the game. And uh, that's how
I came up. That's dope name. I'm gonna saw calling
you new bounding new bound After that, I gotta listen,
though I did. I was just checking my Instagram and uh,
Snoop came in shout out on his I g to
(39:04):
that he did he Snoopy here wrapped up chilling. He
was like, Yo, Nate, you did your thing, like shout out,
that's dope. That's I'm I'm on cloud nine right now.
BRONC hit me up like crazy. Can you hit him
up and ask him who presses his hair because I'm
(39:26):
just looking for something saying it's always laid. Just ask him.
I'll ask you. I'm gonna trying to get a collaboration.
I think he'll do it. You know. That's that's the
O g Willie like Willie and it's here at the network.
That's his board. Don't we gotta clip tod We gotta
clip from it from the Instagram. Shout out to Nate
Burglers and that rap you did to recap the season
(39:47):
on the NFL channel. That was dope. But that was hard.
N B New Balance, that was hard this season recap
wrap on NFL network. You did that. Yeah, yeah, I
made it. You made it. Man, I'm gonna retire while
I'm gonna talk past. They look like like my guy said,
(40:13):
then the juice Now you got to light you go. Hey.
That was that's it for this week's show. Sta thank
you for coming by. So somebody unique, a unique perspective.
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of that I got. I got surgery coming up on
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my voice. Yeah, pray for Nate, pay for Ny You'll
be all right. Man. Let's let's hear that single. Man.
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Drop that recap? Give me it's your boyd made pig.
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the Bunker's country, believe that the season ain't really over
to you. The precap before m predict to wins the
next room. Let me break down again the thousand fifteen
and Winston Oh expect nor keep your eyes on the
rooks like the chess board, ninus qbs in a complete
flip flop. They removed cat faster than the twist. Top
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packers started hot, indemisible. Ail Mary's became a leg game
ritual hussell, what's the second tier? Now? I might keep better?
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Coats made a few moves to the poop the roster,
but they looked right now too soon. The prosper caught
a game in d C. It flew right back when
Atlantic Perth had me yelling at you like an just
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keep pounding, no more ignoring. Cam kept Dancingcaus Cam kept
scoring Big Ben in Antonio. Then boys, the truth he
throwing up like what can brown do for you? Fits
so by the time. Not yet, honey. He went off
like runa shoulder, my bad tony defensive player again with
the J. J. Watt well deserved honey Badger. After that spot,
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d v's making niln for hits and bits. Josh Norman
Patrick being Richard Sherman legit can't forget my white House.
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for something then shout out the shacky Kobe Damian Lillard Labe,
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Arry be canceled for hard over fear. Congrats to being
comeback player the year Kobe, Sea Wood and Lynch leaving
the game. Let's just say twenty four will never be
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one of the best of all times. Nobody's ella than Miller,
mccomflix smaller time. He Manning gave us eighteen years afore,
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thank you, sheriff, But now who will uphold the law?
You ready for the season? Yelped me to keep that
lock right here because this is what we do. So
that's it. NFL fifteen reviews. Stay tuned for the two
thousand sixteen preview. I'm gone. I told Talk a Rap,
you didn't believe me. The It's your boy, Napi a
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k A New Balance. Listen to everything. Mr Versatility, the
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