June 14, 2016 • 44 mins
Mike Robinson & Nate Burleson are joined by veteran linebacker LaMarr Woodley to discuss issues with the Cardinals' defense last season, most fun coaches in the NFL and contract negotiations. Plus, their takes on Steph Curry's shoes and LeBron vs. Draymond Green.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, what's popping? This is the R and B Podcast.
I am Nate Brillison, I'm real, Mike Rob. We got
a special guest, Lamar, what up? What's going on? Man?
A t D dropped their beat. Yeah, oh no no, yeah,
well I had a long day and not really trying
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to go by my lady dressed out for her night
on the town down, but now ain't going down. See now, baby,
I got some staffs for you and also real playing
super special fast for your teacher at this game go down.
As they analyzed the winners, they might shout my name
out because you're bad, mommy. We can jump tune into
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into the nd show show tone all season long. Yeah,
that's On't hot, man, I get I get hype. Man
hYP got our own phone a lot. When he first
told me about the show R and B, I'm like,
they got an R and B show the NFL network.
Who's saying I did? I thought that at first. Today
(01:06):
explained it to you. So no disrespect, but so for
everybody listening, that's a voice of Lamar Whitley. Hey, I
appreciate you coming. You are one of the best backers,
pass rushers, tacklers, all that from our error like say this, like, hey,
you know, like I know more than I know this
man is a month that I've had to block this dude,
(01:27):
or attempt to block this dude. I've had to run
away from this dude being at quarterback. Right. Uh he
gets down, Yeah, yeah, he gets down. He's one of
those guys on the board. You gotta say, this dude
right here, slide everybody to him, chip them, put a
tight end over there. Everything. That's what I'm saying, straight
up and down. I'm just being real. So listen, this
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is the R and B podcast. This is the show.
We talked about the NFL, We talked about pop culture music.
We obviously got beats throughout the show. Got my man
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not if you're not hip to one of the dopest
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So this is a little right, this is the best
in the game. I'm just saying. From anybody talking sports
and pop culture. This is your podcast meets slaughter House.
So this is the show. This is we got coming up.
We got Lamar woollye. He's gonna talk that talk. We're
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gonna just we're gonna go off the rails, is gonna
stay on the rails, is gonna stay GoF subject. We're
gonna talk Fletcher Cox, new contract, pockets fat, and we're
gonna talk about new era, making new money. Um. Obviously
we want everybody to get paid. We're gonna do depth
chart debates, linebacker talk with Lamar. Um. We'll wrap the
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show with or Not. You know, that's the segment that
my man tv UM speaking of our producer t d
Hey tell the people what's up man, what's going on? Fellas?
And this is what's up. Not the Curry two lows
you know, don't don't know. I mean, if you haven't
seen them, go on social media, check them out. Check
out those memes. Those hilarious. I was for to say,
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that's probably the lowest point of Curry season so far.
It's had some rough finals games and it was Curry
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So what are you saying about this man? Shooter? Man?
I don't trying to understand. I mean, I mean, honestly,
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I just feel like they're going after after a different
market that was when used to in the basketball round.
You know market, what market is that TD They're going
after first of all, the really young kids, okay, and
then also going after more diverse, uh demographics. You're saying
than the usual like urban hip hop filling basket. Are
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you saying there isn't a market for trying he's trying?
So he's the basketball shoes something like women exactly? You
know almost, so you're saying there isn't a market for
waterproof family reunion shoes. Like's not You're not personally not,
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but I didn't think they were. This is what we
can't say is that Steph Curry has brought over a
billion dollars to their basketball division and they say that
his contract, you know what the numbers, his contract is
worth upwards to fourteen billion dollars to under armour. How
crazy is that? Yeah? But how much? How much? How much?
Is Steph Curry getting in that what you're saying? All
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of that last year reportedly he made like you know,
it was like fifteen and twenty million. Oh, just something
just fitting, something like all right, well listen, we'll get
to that a T D. You gotta beat Son. Uh huh.
I always I always sound like I'm about to rap boy,
but I never really wrapped. You know what I'm saying.
(05:08):
I'm like a game spinner. I'll just knowledge over. You
know what I'm saying. Uh, you got the hot top
Baker on the day they Hey, I got the Hot
to come bad Dog? I was that was supposed to
be your intro. You know what I'm saying, it's about
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to take that I got, I got the next week,
the next week, next week, you're gonna get it. Okay, cool,
all right, what's up? Man? Let's jump right into it, Lamar.
I appreciate you joining us man. I appreciate man. So,
so what's up? Talk to us? Man? What's next for you?
You said that you've got some stuff going on in
Michigan right now, But what's the grand scope on what
(05:51):
you got going on? Man? You know, it's a lot
of different things right now. I'm finishing up school getting
my masters degree engagulations, you know, sports counsel appreciated, Mind
support management. UM. I have my AU basketball program called
Greenwood Elite based out of Michigan. We got teams from
fourth grade all the way up to eleven grade. UM.
I got some things going on with a commercial real
estate that I have going on back at home. I've
(06:13):
been doing that about two three years now. You know,
I do my own podcast show called Avenue fifty six.
Appreciate that. You know, y'all come over there and check
me out. Man, We're gonna you know, but I'm just
you know, I'm still working out, having fun. You know,
I was here, um yesterday doing audition for us for
a show. You know, hopefully I get that call and
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host the show and I can, you know, be up
here doing a little something with y'all, see y'all every day.
But still working out. You know, my phone still working,
So I don't I don't control that that that's in
their hands. Are you done? I mean, you didn't play
this game along time? Bro. You know what I'm saying
that you sound like you got other interests. Hey, you
know what what I'm saying. You know, they always told
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me that, you know, coming up. You know, football didn't
last that long. So I always here for life after
the game because you never know when it end, and
I just always prepared for that. So if my phone
don't ring, I'm prepared for whatever happens after that. So
I'm just always staying prepared. You know, I ain't gonna
let nobody control my destiny. You know, what's up to
them to call me, but that's not gonna stop me
from doing other things. Last year, you played with the
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Arizona Cardinals. Um, great year, bro Uh. Talk about playing
for Bruce Arians and being out there being in that culture.
Um looked like he was having fun. Man. Yeah, you know,
a couple of weeks ago, I called a little heat
uh for talking about the Cardinals. Uh. I kind of
said something about the defensive coordinator. He man, what you say?
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You know what I'm saying. I didn't hear that report.
We just say I called him dumb. Uh. So I
went and blasted the decordinate a little bit because you know,
I just felt like last year playing with the Arizona Cardinals,
and I said this, it was a great organization, great team,
great players, everything was great. And I felt like we
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had a team to actually when the Super Bowl. You know,
come from Pittsburgh, you know, when you gotta win a team,
you know what I've seen that. I just felt like
the defensive coordinator didn't listen to his players. You know.
You know how some situations coaches feel like they know
more than the players, and you know, when you're out
there playing the game of football, you have to listen
to the guys out there on the field. Because me
coming from coach Dick Lebo, he was that type of
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guy that listened to his players and he helped make
those adjustments doing game time. So we're the last year
in Arizona. It wasn't that same field, you know, and
I felt like, damn, you know, this is a super
Bowl team and a lot of people look at and say,
you know, Arizona would have a chance to do the
same thing next year. But we know that teams change
every year. It's hard to get back to the NFC
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Championship game into that Super Bowl, and we have a
lot of a lot of guys that's playing in this
lead that's never been there, you know, so you have
to see the moment while you're there. And I felt
like he just didn't take his players. Just to give
full context on Lamas quote, and again you said you
brought it up so because you're talking about both the
Raiders and the Cardinals defensive coordination, and you said they
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thought we were like Madden players. They draw something up
on paper and it looked good, but the players still
have to go out there and run it. Those guys
didn't really listen to their players. They wanted to do
their own way and their way only as you guys
this place. Have you guys ever felt like that, like, hey,
these players aren't gonna work and how do you hand
a Let me, I'm gon backtrack a little bit. So, um,
we talked about this on our podcast about players calling
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out upper upper management or calling out coaches, and we
both agree you have to be established in this sleep.
You have to have years on you, like Lamar, you
have to have had a resume that's strong enough to
where you can say something like that. So obviously we
all think to say, I don't see no problem with it.
If you're gonna call a player dumb, a coach down,
you gotta be a veteran that has been there, done
that has experienced. Now, now let me let me we
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back in through the back door. I'll do the analyst thing.
Listen so that I'll do the analyst thing. I was
talking to a player that will remain nameless on the
(10:13):
Arizona Cardinals team, and he said, we had so much
talent on both sides of the ball, specifically on defense.
I don't understand why our defensive coordinator would try to
using a baseball uh quote changed the game in the
ninth in it, he's like, we showed up, thank you
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those I can't see lamars. He said, we showed up
to Carolina with an over complicated game plan and it
was much different than what we were used to. So
what people saw was us getting our asking. What we
knew as players was we went to a game plan
doing something completely different than we were accustomed to make stuff.
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So listen, I'm listening to him. I'm making up that's
crazy because he was in there. He was in the
locker room. I just happened to be casually talking to
one of my boys this off season, and I'm like,
for real, like I was watching it as a former
player in analysts now, like man, y'all getting the bait,
the breaks beat off you, but really, they went to
that game doing something that y'all, and I didn't. I
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didn't talk to anybody or whatever. I just watched the film. Right,
you look at the film, you look at what they
were defensively, what you guys were doing all during the season,
and you look at that game and it just looked
like two totally different teams, looked like two totally different philosophies,
you know what I mean, It just didn't look like
the same team to me. Carolina. What I mean, Carolina
is a good team. It was a good team, but
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they were that much better than the Arizona did. It
makes sense. It didn't obviously, like you know, I'm a
big Carson family that he didn't play his best game.
But still it's just the result. The result, the result
and fit what we saw out of Arizona all year.
So let me ask you this, being in that game,
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right going into the locker room at halftime, what what
were you thinking? Well, you know what I was thinking,
because I was I was hurt, so I was you know,
I was just coaching the um. But I was just
thinking that we need to make some adjustments because usually
offenses running all their places, you're gonna see everything in
the first half, so you have to make those adjustments
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and come out in the second half and do what
you gotta do. And I felt like we just didn't
make those adjustments. You know, like like you said, we
didn't have a bad team. We had a great defense.
We had a great defenses. They just knew that every
time we're in third down, we're blitzing, we're bringing the house.
Cam knew that. I'm pretty sure y'a knew that too,
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and everybody a cross Lee knew that. So what they
do They just kept on picking us apart doing that
hitting the big place. We didn't make the adjustments, and
then you have players on the sideline. You know that's
not what's going on in the game. But when there's
no communication from the man up top, things don't have
So you guys couldn't say nothing to him. Huh, you
couldn't say anything, hey, yo. And you know how certain
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people is when they get when they're get in a
certain position, you know, they feel like they know everything
and they don't listen. They don't listen to their players.
Like I said, I'm coming from Dick l Bow, you know,
great defensive coordinator. He listened to his players. So I'm
expecting if coach Dick Lebow was listening to his players,
that any other defensive coordinator's gonna listen to his players,
but especially with the amount of talent you had, Like no,
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I know, obviously guys are banged up. You and Honey
Badger with that crushed because I feel like that young boy.
So it's a trip, man, listening to what you're saying
and then kind of playing back what we saw. We
were at that game, right know, we we did game,
but listening to what you said, see I didn't. So
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now people know I'm not making it up. You know
what I'm saying because validation exactly, because at first no
one has come come out and said that. A lot
of people have criticized me, saying or lamars man because
he's not on the NFL roster this he's that. I'm
not yo. I'm telling you the truth. I'm not upset.
I'm like, I'm not upset. I got a million other
things going around. I played nine years in the league.
Why would I be upset about that. I'm just speaking
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the truth. And now that you said that, I'm like, hell,
that's fast, it's good man. But you know, It's crazy,
is that like coaches can talk about a player. They
can call player, you know, intelligent, they can call them dumb.
They can say the players are smart or he isn't fast,
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he can't jump that. They can criticize us from the
bottom down. As soon as a player says something that's legitimate,
like you with no hate involved, just saying the decordinator
was dumb. He made some dumb decision toward the end
of the year and that cost us a chance at
the Super Bowl in two thousand and fifteen sixty. All
of a sudden, that player is a guy that's out
of pocket. And we talked about this a lot. We're
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putting this box as players, right, and as soon as
we step outside of what they know us as, which
is basically jocks, we get the the brash end of it.
But I would say the better coaches, the better coaches
can sit there and and I've seen it what guys
are saying, we need to be doing this. There's some
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dumb stuff we're doing in the coach will sit there
and say, yeah, you're right, right, what y'all want to do.
But like he said, lobos On one of the best,
and I didn't know what I'm saying is Burg, but
what I knew about all my boys that played there.
He would see his talent. He would create a game
plan based off of the strengths that they have, and
that was all season long and times you have to
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adjust depending on the team. But he wasn't a guy
that saw a team was like, all of a sudden,
we're gonna do something different. Now we're gonna do what
we do best and make them adjust. And that's what
the best coaches do. Hey, TV, I know you got
a question for Lamar. What's up? Definitely? I don't know
he talking about the not till pleasant times there with
the Cardinals. But overall, most people see Bruce arians as
a fun coach to play for. And obviously you played
for Mike Tomlin for years in Pittsburgh and Mike Rod
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he played for b Carroll. So overall, I think most
people assume these like the most fun coaches to play for.
What do you guys think who was who was more
fun than why? I'm not gonna lie. I always wanted
to play for Mike Tomlin. I always wanted to get
a chance to play for him, And I'm not gonna
lie just for just from the postgame interviews, right, how honest?
To me? I felt like he was the most honest.
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I felt like he was in front of our team
room saying this to us, but he was saying it
to the camera like we just got beat, no excuses?
What do you want me to say about it? And
I always I always have respect for coaches who was
standing up there and and take it on the chain. Now,
we didn't coach right, or we didn't do this, we
could have done this better. And then on the same
time say, oh yeah, we snapped the ball to Levi
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bes he the best back in the league, and he
got it. He got it done. I'm as big as fan.
We need big with big, big back. Y'all gonna see
why I'm so excited. I'm know what I'm saying. I'm
gonna let Lamar tackle this question. Last. I'm gonna share
a quick story about Tomlin not. We were in Pittsburgh,
right uh. I was playing for Detroit. I just signed
my contract, went out there. We had a rain delay.
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It's like thunderstorms. So we're out in the locker room,
and the locker rooms are sitting my close to each other.
So I'm out there just warming up, just chilling talking
a couple of boys that I know on the steepers team,
and Mike comes out. You know, Mike super chill bro. Like,
if if you don't know Mike Tomlin, you wouldn't think
like he's this head coach in NFL. He's the guy
that you relate to and talk to. So he's like, hey,
your name, what's up. I'm like, I'm chilling, man, how
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are you doing. He's like, okay, cool, He's like yeah,
minutes Raindeer lay Man throwing everything. I was like, I
was like yeah, yeah. He was like, you know, we
was looking at you. You know, we were thinking about
bringing it to Pittsburgh. I said, yeah, yeah, I heard.
He was like, uh, how much did Detroit pay you?
I was like that they gave me five you know
they you know, Levin guaranteed something, something that you know
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I could run with. He as a real dude. He
was like, nah, we weren't gonna pay you. That's like,
now we're gonna pay that with you a good player though,
And it was like it was like a conversation you
were have at a barbershop. I didn't get mad. I
was like I laughed. I was like, no, I know
I could dig that, and this is I don't even
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play for him. So magic, like you said, Mike, the
type of relationship he has with guys on that squad
where he can criticize you, he can encourage you all
while being honest. And that's what that's all to mention.
You know, he is a young black coach in this league, thriving,
you know, doing what he does on a yearly basis.
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So let's let's talk about head coaches. Lamar, who you
like and why? What about these coaches stand out? Well?
I can. I can talk about coach Thomlin and Bruce
you know, um, you know, but coach Tomlin being that
you know, he drafted me to Pittsburgh. He's just he
always been that straight up guy. I mean fun, he
makes he makes it fun. It's a family type atmos Fear.
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I mean, every time he's in the meeting room, he's
telling some kind of story about his family and his kids.
So he tells so many stories it kind of felt
like you knew them personally, you know, just to short
the stories that he told. And I mean he treated
everybody like a man. So he wasn't big on finding
people because he said, hey, man, you got enough guys
in your pocket, enough family in your pocket. I'm not
trying to take your money, just get it under control.
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So he was always one of those type of people.
Doors are always open. I mean you can go in
there and talk to him about anything, you know. Like
I said, it felt like he was just a player
on the team, you know, because he was. He was
that cool. He didn't have he didn't have like strict
rules where it's always like an uptight thing. It was
just like, hey, learn how to be a professional, treat
yourself like a man. I'm gonna let you'all handle it.
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I don't want to have to step in and do
those type of things. And and that's how the whole
entire facility is actually. You know, when you and I
talked about Mr Rooney yesterday, it was a family atmosphere.
I mean, you see Mr Rudy in the locker room
working out. You see you know that's Art Runey in
the way room working out. You see Dan Rooney coming
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through the locker room giving people that walking through the
training room. You know, his office was always open, like
you can just go into Mr Runy, Can I talk
to you come on in. You know, they was They
was there to help you every step of the way.
You know. So that that's a great organization. And when
I got to Arizona it was the same way because
you have a lot of guys over there from Pittsburgh,
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you know, from the trainers to some of the cooks,
I mean, everybody coaching staff was like Pittsburgh there and
having coach Bruce Anon. And Bruce Anson is a straight
up dude. You know, he would cut you out. He
will tell you what's on his mind. And overall like
Coach Thomas, he's a great guy. He speaks his mind,
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he's gonna be honest with you. He's gonna treat you
like a professional, you know. And and and there it
was like a family type atmosphere, you know. So it
was it was similarity. Bruce Aeronson, Bruce Anrinson will cut
you out, that was the dipper to him and Coach Thomas.
You dun't he would tell you know what I'm saying,
you have no problem doing that. But from the owner
own down, man, it was when I say, a great organization, man,
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it was a great organization and it was very similar,
you know, just Pittsburg has been doing it for a
long period well, and I think a lot of good
coaches have a lot of similarities that family atmosphere. Pete
Carroll was the same way. A family atmosphere. Everybody felt like,
you know, you wanted to contribute to the family. Everybody
felt like you can bring your own family to the
building and be a part of meetings and all of
those types of things. Anything like I've I've brought my
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kids when they care wasn't open, had to bring my
kids to practice. Yeah, they in the office. It is
all good, you know, in the owner's office, are all good.
It's one thing about Pete that I can say. It
was different from other coaches being around him. He always,
uh was trying to teach you something deeper like and
I'm not saying that not not that that other coaches
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don't do this, but he was always you know, he
was a psych major, So everything was for a reason.
He would you know, even team meetings and where he
stood was for a reason, you know what I mean,
whether it was on stage or down there with you.
I mean, all of those things made it made a difference.
The type of music he was playing during practice, All
of those things made a difference, and he always knew
that coaching was kind of something that I may have
wanted to do one day. So we would always have
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these conversations, and he was very intentional about everything, you know, uh,
with videos that were shown, who was in the in
the weight room, with the types of personalities that were
in the locker room. He would call us when he
would make big you know, I remember when Percy Harvin
was we were thinking about getting Percy and he called
you know me, you know, called camp Chancellor. I know,
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he called Tommy, called a lot of the veterans, a
lot of veterans, a lot of leadership. It was like, yo,
how does it? How do you think this personality would fit?
And not a lot of coaches do that, you know
what I mean? So, uh, Pete was all of that,
all fun and games, all of that, uh, but again
he was always about something a little bit deeper to
and speaking of deeper, somebody that got deeper pockets. It's
(22:58):
Fletcher Cotto. So let's touch on that man second before
TD give us another Um. Okay, so may von Miller
pay that dude? Man? You see this, No Nate, no Nate,
you see this. John Elway need to stop playing with
this lad's money. They get his man sixty million guaranteed. Right, Okay,
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I'm talking on Von Miller. Okay for those Okay, for
those listening, can we talk about he paid his dudes
next year one and three million dollar contract. Um. If
I'm Von, I'm like, that's the most in total value
for a nine quarterback. Okay, So let's let's go through
(23:40):
the process of negotiations. Like there's a little bit. He
got twenty six million to sign to day just to
sign his name. That's crazy. Twenty six million signed his name. Okay.
So we've been through contract negotiations. I've been through three
of them myself. Personal, I haven't really Okay, I a
little bit. I played back dog. This are you trying
(24:03):
to sit out of football for a year? You want to?
You're like, I take switch, let me get hey man.
All right, Okay, Well, then let's talk about these contracts
negotiations because they can get a little sticky. Well, people
(24:23):
see what people don't know. They see the big numbers
and they're like, oh man, you know my favorite player
got paid or he got underpaid, overpaid. That's all they see.
What we know is your agent calls you and he's like, hey, yo,
So the team's talking. They this is they first offer.
First offer. What you see on TV is never the
first offer you don't take. So what's attached to what
(24:44):
we hear your first offer is all the negative things
about you. So for everybody listening to imagine, you know,
for a guy that works downtown l A in a cubicle,
your boss comes in, he's like, hey, I know your
your contracts almost up. Um, this is what we want
to pay you, and this is why we're gonna pay this.
It's not all the positive things. I remember every contract negotiation,
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it was about how old I am, the injuries I've had,
the system I'm in, the better players out there. So
it's almost like they're trying to mess with your mind.
So you all of a sudden have a lower self appreciation.
But if you signed that lower contract, oh man, we
love you. Talk about it. Talk about contract negotiations and
(25:33):
how you dealt with them as a young professional and
then as a veteran. I mean, just as you know,
when I signed my first big contract in Pittsburgh, Um,
you know what and what was that? I would talk numbers, bro,
you can't get this. The RB Podcast don't forget. We
can look at you ain't forget how much it was
what I forgot and they never forgot how much dollars.
(25:57):
I see the roles on this. You try took it away.
I'm looking at my album watch over here. Okay, so
another guy you got to watch. I got to to watches.
He like T boy. Alright, alright, so first contract you
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think it was around what because we know we could
look it up. Yeah, my first deal was I signed
a six year, sixty one and a half million dollar
contract and this was this is when uh, after my
fourth year how old yea? Yeah, so Pittsburgh let me
play at my rookie contract. Um and and we want
to the negotiations that came low, you know, but you know,
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we just kept fighting for more, you know, because I
did put up great numbers, and uh, I put up
some I put up some great numbers, and I felt like,
you know, this is a type of money I should
have if you look back on they said I shouldn't
have it, because like I hurt. But I always tell people,
you get paid for what you did, right, You get
paid for what you did the potential of what you
can and with the potential of what you can. Yeah,
(27:03):
so but you get paid for what you did. But um,
what most people, when you're speaking about contracts, what they
don't know is they look at the overall, the big number.
But a lot of teams backloads your contracts and then
you're five and six that you never see. So when
they always wonder about why players are fighting for guaranteed
money and more upfront money because most teams is gonna
(27:25):
cut you back there. So a lot of people trying
to get that guaranteed money right away up front, you know.
But a lot of people, man, you should take this,
you know, because they're not gonna make it a year
five and six. They're gonna screw you and cut you.
And that's why people try to get their money up
front with the big sign of bonus. And I wanted
my money up front up front, all right, so you know,
I'm gonna go off the rails a little bit. TD.
So you were, you were down with your rookie deal
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and you got this big contract at twenty six years old.
That's life changing. Now you are, you're already in the league,
you're already established, you already made some money, you're already
a millionaire now you're taking a different into like that
upper echelon of financial stability at twenty six years old.
What were you thinking when you knew that still was
(28:09):
att I mean what I was thinking. I mean, the
first thing I thought about was like, now we have
money in this family to pass it on for generations.
You know, That's the first thing that crossed my mind
s we finally put a Woodley stamp on something where
when I'm dead and going, there's gonna be some money passed.
So that's the very first thing that crossed my mind.
And then after that, I mean, I already had plan
(28:32):
for the contract, so I knew what exactly what I
was gonna do for my family, my mom my dad.
So I kind of had everything already set up. That's
how much I'm gonna spend on the house. You know,
this is I'm gonna take care of. So the blueprint
was already laid out because we knew it was coming.
You know, I didn't want to get into the situation
now the money come, Oh what I do? Now I'm
making bad decisions because I'm trying to make quick decisions,
you know what I'm saying. So the blueprint was already
(28:54):
set out and all we had that that's the hardest part.
Having a plan, definitely the hardest part. Man. So just
before we get to this beat, T D. Lamar from
what I took from that is for these young boys
listening to the podcast that's in the league, have a
plan that the goal is to make money, right, So
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don't be caught off guard when you make the money.
Have a plan, layer blueprint down. So when you get
this money, you got decisions based off of making this
money and keeping this money going, not just for you
in this lifetime. You're gonna be rich. You made it
to the league, You're rich right now. The goal is
to be wealthy for generations. Hey TV, let me get
(29:35):
a beat. That's a freestyle beat, right definitely? Yea yeah,
I like that. I like that. Let me get little
water real quick, clear my throat and I'm saying hold on,
uh yeah, I like that. I ain't freached out in
a minute, bring it right back. Everybody listening to the
(29:58):
podcast like, oh boy, I like that. See Lamar says
some real stuff. How could he? But that's real talk
from Woodley. He said the decordinator didn't do his job,
and everybody got down to shape the odds. Ain't tripping.
We're not tripping. We doing our things. We're on the
field trying to get it ranked. I didn't get it
(30:20):
ranked and I played eleven gears. That's get him sweat
and tears. But still I'm here. Do what we do though,
keep it real. I'm just not let me chill. Mar
hight back there, He's like, let's go in the drop.
All right, So let's let's do a depth chart debates. Um,
(30:41):
you know we got one of the best to do it,
Lamar in the building. Um, let's talk about it. Let's
talking about let's talk about best. That's basketball. Basketball. I
really feel like I know about I don't know more
about the NBA and NFL, but we'll get and we'll
get to that. And speaking of the NBA, TV got
(31:01):
the Dope podcast. Yeah, TD gotta they can take it.
The podcasts fire. Um, all right, so um, let's talk linebackers.
Let's talk about We'll do this real quick so we
don't run out of time. Let's talk about who you
looked up to before you got in the league. Let's
talk about when you were in it, aside from yourself,
who you thought was a monster, and then who was
(31:23):
that dude right now. So this is the past present
future depth chart debates. William asked all the questions, Hey,
we get it, popping the question already. What did you
look up to from yesteryear when you were in it?
Who was the man aside from yourself and right now? Well,
(31:44):
when I asked president, when I first, I mean looking
up to somebody least, it wasn't actually a linebacker. I
looked up to Jerome Bettis and like Hines Ward as
far as like a position, not particularly a linebacker, you know,
I just like the way they played the game. Really yeah,
just having to be Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, I was a
still a fan growing so that really great for me.
So when I got in the lead, you know, it
was ray Lewis like watching them, I mean everything, you know,
(32:09):
the attitude he played with, how he was the leader
out there in the field. And then one thing I
respected about him too is I had a chance to
talk to ray Lewis my freshman, my rookie year at
at the Super Bowl and I talked to him after
we beat them in the ANFC Championship at the Super Bowl,
and he said, man, go out here and sees this opportunity. Yeah,
because you never know when it's gonna happen again, Like,
(32:30):
take advantage of this. I'm like, man, we just beat them,
and he's giving me advice to going here into the
Super Bowls and win. He said, Man, last year when
I talked to you, I think I gave you too
much advice because 'all came in and I but it
was great advice. So I looked up to to Ray
Lewis and and I used to like watching Patrick Willis play.
(32:50):
I mean he was over the field. I mean he
played with that with that dog attitude. He was sidelines,
sideline down hill. Yeah, he was a dog mean but
and you know, I had guys on my own team,
like the James Harrison and I had James Ferry, and
I had Lawrence Timmis, so I had I had a
bunch of guys on my team too. And I was like, hey,
(33:10):
the boys getting it. They had line back. How was
that playing against like that type of corps Because you know, Mike,
you're a fullback. There's games you're going to, the games
you're going to forget that, you know, you know, you know,
we all men. So you're like, you know, you start
(33:33):
watching on tape. You know, you're looking at body types
and all of that, you know, but half of the
time you didn't know where these cats coming from. That's
where it was. You be in the backfield like I'm
just staying in, bro, Just somebody gonna come to me,
you know what I'm saying that. That was really the
hard part about playing Pittsburgh, Bro, Like it tested everything.
(33:56):
And then with Troy back there, Bro, you make the
key like something something happening over here, then they send
like fine cats on the other side, you know what
I mean. That's what made it difficult. And then when
you figuring out what they were doing, you had the
physical confrontation you had to uh try to overcome. I
remember James Harrison slapped me on the butt one time. Dog.
(34:17):
He almost told my quad mom. I was like, dog man,
oh man, Slama, Who who do you think is the
best in the game? Right? Man? I got two guys.
I got the guy from Carolina Luke. Yeah, I'll tell
you one. I'm Tommy David. Make that man look good too.
(34:41):
He he helped me. Alright, Mike, I take that back
my back list, let him talk shut up, and you
know I got to go back to Pittsburgh. My man shakes,
he are gonna do some stull. Oh he gonna really yea,
he gonna go. They need him to. He gonna go. Yeah,
he gonna go. I like it. Alright, alright, that's what's
up man. Alright. So that was depth to oard debates.
(35:01):
Let me get or not? TD, What do you have
for us right now on this or not? So this
is our orna segment for sure. For sure, as as
Lamar says, he is a big hoops guy, and you
know we all are to some extended again, Draymond the
final is going on right now. Yas one Game five,
Draymond did not play because of the step over. So
(35:22):
my question to you guys is did you view Lebron
step over Draymond Green as disrespect or not? And I know, Lamar,
I know the dreamanager boy too so interested to hear
your thoughts on this, all right, so uh hey, Lamar,
just let's check on man. That move Lebron did as
a sucker move. Okay, you gotta keep it real. They
(35:44):
down by twenty or thirty or whatever. He realized that
the Golden State Warriors still can beat him if they
shut down Clay and Curry, So who do he really
go after? The man that really holds that team together
is Draymond Green, So let's not a pick a fight
with him at the end of the game, and you
know he's gonna react. Knocked him down, step over and
did this that pushing all that, But then go to
(36:07):
the media and talk about, man, this guy said some
disrespectful things that I got kids, that this and that. Yeah,
it was almost kind of like telling you know what
I'm saying the commissioner to view the tate looking too,
that this guy's a problem. And then soon as he
do it, Draymond gets suspended. What happened? Then Lebron go
(36:28):
out there dropped forty one because he didn't have nobody guarding.
So he built a little confidence. But on Thursday, that's
gonna get taken back away. I like it. What do
you say about people who have the mindset that Draymond
has done that quite a Draymond is kind of look
he on the fence. I like him as a player,
(36:49):
but he is on just keep it real. The Draymond
has been playing that way ever since he was in elementary. Like,
that's how far I go back with Draymond ever since elementary.
He always had that attitude, that that aggressive attitude going
out there playing ball. You ain't gonna pump me. What
happened is the league just got soft. So now you
(37:10):
know it started with the Ben Wallace is and giving
all them guys tech and they're making the lead soft.
And by the league getting soft is trickling down to hey,
you and all them elementary and all that. So you
got a guy like Draymond and you said that you
know what I'm saying. Charles Barkley did say though, that
Draymond had a moral obligation to go after And as
you guys know, I have nine dream family back home.
(37:31):
It is total disrespect. If someone steps over you, now
you have to make the person to step back the
other way because it's straight up disrespect. We don't play that.
It's hey, if he had a problem, you should have
just seen him in the back. Hey, how light me
in the back? You know what I'm saying, take this
off the court, all right, that's what That's what somebody
real would have did. I can dig that. So you're
saying that the Goats stay Warriors are gonna close this out.
(37:55):
Now I'm gonna ask because I love who Now that I
I got you here, I know you gotta go. We
gotta go. What about being out, Draymond miss in the game,
Curry and Clay not necessarily playing up to standards. STEP's
hurt right now. I think it's I think it's fairly obvious,
but or it could be the shoes. Yeah, but I'm
just saying, and Kyrie and Lebron both dropped forty one
(38:17):
like that ain't gonna happen every night, And I'm going
for you know why Lebron dropped forty one because Draymond
wasn't in and when Draymond is in, Steph Curry and
UH and Clay played different because I mean, Draymond, get
that ball out the rim and help that offense go
and Steph Kurry And now you gotta respect everybody. You
gotta respect more people on the court now. But now
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Dramond gone, you know they was able to do something.
But now I might go to the game now on Thursday,
because every time I've been to every championship game that
Draymond played in, all the championship games, I've been there
and they won, they were they lost when Michigan State
North Carolina. But I've been, and I might go to
this one just because I know they're gonna close it out,
just because just so you could be there part of
(38:57):
all right, So I like that. I love and hey,
speaking to NBA, talked before we let everybody go TD,
I said, I had another story last week. I was
at the spot called the Nice Guy. Right. It's a
little low key lounge to do a little little dinner
and food. So I was in there at my boy
Reggie Bush with chilling, and Russell Westbrook was in there.
So I'm always cashable to like run up on somebody
because I just don't know our cats act. And uh,
(39:19):
they were like, you know, Russ is in here. He's
a cool guy. You know he should probably say what's up.
So I walked over to him. I was like, look,
I want to take up too much of your time.
I'm maybe I played in the league. He was like yea,
he showed me up. And I was like, look, I
gotta ask this question. If you played football, what position?
Because you know, we always look at like the real
athletic like slashers as like, oh he could have played ball,
(39:41):
he could have played football. And so I'm sitting there
He's like he thought about. He's like, I don't know.
You know, when I was younger, I played running back,
you know, but now, like you know, I don't know
if I want to play offense. I think if I
played right now, i'd be a safety. And I was like, oh,
like like a you know, like a big time hitter.
He's like yeah, because I let a hit. It was
(40:04):
like like Cam Chancellor. He was like, yeah, like a
Cam Chancellor. So we'll leave this for another conversation. But
what I'm saying is when you look at some of
these athletes and other sports, oftentimes we don't translate a
basketball player to a football player. What's the rest book,
(40:24):
It's one of those guys that could take his NBA
jersey off and put on the NFL jersey. So that's
my story. Mike's not buying it. I can tell. I
got looking at the micro right now. I know Mike.
I told I told story, and he was like camp.
I'm like why. First of all, they I don't sound
(40:46):
like he's so explosive, bron I don't sound like kind
of do man. Second of all, second of all, he's
at it's a lot easier for someone to go from
a contact sport to me, just my opinion, it's a
lot easier for a football player to go to basketball
than a basketball player to come to this contact sport.
(41:08):
This is a different animal over here, this is all
right now, is a different animal. And then here talking
about banging. He talking about getting in that box. Come on, man,
if I seen Russell Westbrook, come on down in this box, dog,
I'm taking his lunch money. And I don't give a
damn how explosive Russell. I'm taking his lunch money. Helmet.
They put that wood on you. They pro you don't
(41:30):
believe that. You know what I know exactly exactly that's
what I said, receiver DV or something like that. I
think that's perfect for them. But you talk about getting
down in that box, you're banging with cats outside. Dog.
Russell Westbrook a six four like. It's not like he's
a small dude. I'm not talking about heights. Russell's NBA
(41:51):
is a He's an NBA is Odell Backham, That's what
it is. But I can see that, I can see
him doing Odell Beckham type stuff on the outside. Don't
come down, don't come down in that Robin wanted no
part of that track. Robinson worked there for our former team. Yes, shaw,
he did. The Robinson played eleven years, slammed up Champion.
They passed on peak here on them, so we'll see
(42:12):
if football they may pick it. Trust me, I know
he's a cat that I can see Week four teen fifteen.
He just want to do something to create a little
buzz or whatever outside for a couple of weeks. That's
saying a couple of games, playoffs already sold up. Hey, well, listen,
I appreciate you joining us a little man. Appreciate it.
(42:33):
Hey man, anytime you in town, stop by at Mike
and I'm gonna keep it one hunting. I ain't never
had anybody in the studio with two watches on, so like,
that's pretty dope at different time zones. Ain't dropping knowledge.
Hey listen, t d lest the altro step wealth right there, man, Okay,
(42:57):
oh go ahead, And they were talking about give me
a subject subject I don't know, and stop thinking. Let
me wrap this water hydra to start drinking. Lamar. Appreciate
you coming to That's real talk. We don't just talk
(43:17):
that talk, man, This is real. Walk from the East
coast to the west though I ain't trying to brag,
but homie, this is the best show. Everybody want to
talk about that? No, come on, man, out the cuts. Man.
I just can't. I can't just do it, at it
and keep going. That's true. I forgot come on man,
man talking about he stopped to be talented. Man, do
(43:37):
your thing a head, Mike, you go, huh what. I
don't rap, I don't wrap the thing. Then I don't
think I just pick that. I just picked that thing. Man. Listen,
it's the R and B Podcast. Man. I appreciate everybody.
We'll see you all next week. Part
Man, what's popping? This is the R and B Podcast.
I am Nate Brillison, I'm real, Mike Rob. We got
a special guest, Lamar, what up? What's going on? Man?
A t D dropped their beat. Yeah, oh no no, yeah,
well I had a long day and not really trying
(00:21):
to go by my lady dressed out for her night
on the town down, but now ain't going down. See now, baby,
I got some staffs for you and also real playing
super special fast for your teacher at this game go down.
As they analyzed the winners, they might shout my name
out because you're bad, mommy. We can jump tune into
the R and B Show. We shout to tune tune
(00:46):
into the nd show show tone all season long. Yeah,
that's On't hot, man, I get I get hype. Man
hYP got our own phone a lot. When he first
told me about the show R and B, I'm like,
they got an R and B show the NFL network.
Who's saying I did? I thought that at first. Today
(01:06):
explained it to you. So no disrespect, but so for
everybody listening, that's a voice of Lamar Whitley. Hey, I
appreciate you coming. You are one of the best backers,
pass rushers, tacklers, all that from our error like say this, like, hey,
you know, like I know more than I know this
man is a month that I've had to block this dude,
(01:27):
or attempt to block this dude. I've had to run
away from this dude being at quarterback. Right. Uh he
gets down, Yeah, yeah, he gets down. He's one of
those guys on the board. You gotta say, this dude
right here, slide everybody to him, chip them, put a
tight end over there. Everything. That's what I'm saying, straight
up and down. I'm just being real. So listen, this
(01:48):
is the R and B podcast. This is the show.
We talked about the NFL, We talked about pop culture music.
We obviously got beats throughout the show. Got my man
t D behind the asked this is like your favorite
podcast meets Let's see, we got a Michigan guy in
the house. You know, this is like slaughter If you're
(02:11):
not if you're not hip to one of the dopest
lyricist groups in hip hop, slaughter House, they are monsters.
So this is a little right, this is the best
in the game. I'm just saying. From anybody talking sports
and pop culture. This is your podcast meets slaughter House.
So this is the show. This is we got coming up.
We got Lamar woollye. He's gonna talk that talk. We're
(02:32):
gonna just we're gonna go off the rails, is gonna
stay on the rails, is gonna stay GoF subject. We're
gonna talk Fletcher Cox, new contract, pockets fat, and we're
gonna talk about new era, making new money. Um. Obviously
we want everybody to get paid. We're gonna do depth
chart debates, linebacker talk with Lamar. Um. We'll wrap the
(02:53):
show with or Not. You know, that's the segment that
my man tv UM speaking of our producer t d
Hey tell the people what's up man, what's going on? Fellas?
And this is what's up. Not the Curry two lows
you know, don't don't know. I mean, if you haven't
seen them, go on social media, check them out. Check
out those memes. Those hilarious. I was for to say,
(03:16):
that's probably the lowest point of Curry season so far.
It's had some rough finals games and it was Curry
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So what are you saying about this man? Shooter? Man?
I don't trying to understand. I mean, I mean, honestly,
(03:39):
I just feel like they're going after after a different
market that was when used to in the basketball round.
You know market, what market is that TD They're going
after first of all, the really young kids, okay, and
then also going after more diverse, uh demographics. You're saying
than the usual like urban hip hop filling basket. Are
(04:00):
you saying there isn't a market for trying he's trying?
So he's the basketball shoes something like women exactly? You
know almost, so you're saying there isn't a market for
waterproof family reunion shoes. Like's not You're not personally not,
(04:24):
but I didn't think they were. This is what we
can't say is that Steph Curry has brought over a
billion dollars to their basketball division and they say that
his contract, you know what the numbers, his contract is
worth upwards to fourteen billion dollars to under armour. How
crazy is that? Yeah? But how much? How much? How much?
Is Steph Curry getting in that what you're saying? All
(04:46):
of that last year reportedly he made like you know,
it was like fifteen and twenty million. Oh, just something
just fitting, something like all right, well listen, we'll get
to that a T D. You gotta beat Son. Uh huh.
I always I always sound like I'm about to rap boy,
but I never really wrapped. You know what I'm saying.
(05:08):
I'm like a game spinner. I'll just knowledge over. You
know what I'm saying. Uh, you got the hot top
Baker on the day they Hey, I got the Hot
to come bad Dog? I was that was supposed to
be your intro. You know what I'm saying, it's about
(05:29):
to take that I got, I got the next week,
the next week, next week, you're gonna get it. Okay, cool,
all right, what's up? Man? Let's jump right into it, Lamar.
I appreciate you joining us man. I appreciate man. So,
so what's up? Talk to us? Man? What's next for you?
You said that you've got some stuff going on in
Michigan right now, But what's the grand scope on what
(05:51):
you got going on? Man? You know, it's a lot
of different things right now. I'm finishing up school getting
my masters degree engagulations, you know, sports counsel appreciated, Mind
support management. UM. I have my AU basketball program called
Greenwood Elite based out of Michigan. We got teams from
fourth grade all the way up to eleven grade. UM.
I got some things going on with a commercial real
estate that I have going on back at home. I've
(06:13):
been doing that about two three years now. You know,
I do my own podcast show called Avenue fifty six.
Appreciate that. You know, y'all come over there and check
me out. Man, We're gonna you know, but I'm just
you know, I'm still working out, having fun. You know,
I was here, um yesterday doing audition for us for
a show. You know, hopefully I get that call and
(06:34):
host the show and I can, you know, be up
here doing a little something with y'all, see y'all every day.
But still working out. You know, my phone still working,
So I don't I don't control that that that's in
their hands. Are you done? I mean, you didn't play
this game along time? Bro. You know what I'm saying
that you sound like you got other interests. Hey, you
know what what I'm saying. You know, they always told
(06:55):
me that, you know, coming up. You know, football didn't
last that long. So I always here for life after
the game because you never know when it end, and
I just always prepared for that. So if my phone
don't ring, I'm prepared for whatever happens after that. So
I'm just always staying prepared. You know, I ain't gonna
let nobody control my destiny. You know, what's up to
them to call me, but that's not gonna stop me
from doing other things. Last year, you played with the
(07:17):
Arizona Cardinals. Um, great year, bro Uh. Talk about playing
for Bruce Arians and being out there being in that culture.
Um looked like he was having fun. Man. Yeah, you know,
a couple of weeks ago, I called a little heat
uh for talking about the Cardinals. Uh. I kind of
said something about the defensive coordinator. He man, what you say?
(07:38):
You know what I'm saying. I didn't hear that report.
We just say I called him dumb. Uh. So I
went and blasted the decordinate a little bit because you know,
I just felt like last year playing with the Arizona Cardinals,
and I said this, it was a great organization, great team,
great players, everything was great. And I felt like we
(07:58):
had a team to actually when the Super Bowl. You know,
come from Pittsburgh, you know, when you gotta win a team,
you know what I've seen that. I just felt like
the defensive coordinator didn't listen to his players. You know.
You know how some situations coaches feel like they know
more than the players, and you know, when you're out
there playing the game of football, you have to listen
to the guys out there on the field. Because me
coming from coach Dick Lebo, he was that type of
(08:20):
guy that listened to his players and he helped make
those adjustments doing game time. So we're the last year
in Arizona. It wasn't that same field, you know, and
I felt like, damn, you know, this is a super
Bowl team and a lot of people look at and say,
you know, Arizona would have a chance to do the
same thing next year. But we know that teams change
every year. It's hard to get back to the NFC
(08:42):
Championship game into that Super Bowl, and we have a
lot of a lot of guys that's playing in this
lead that's never been there, you know, so you have
to see the moment while you're there. And I felt
like he just didn't take his players. Just to give
full context on Lamas quote, and again you said you
brought it up so because you're talking about both the
Raiders and the Cardinals defensive coordination, and you said they
(09:04):
thought we were like Madden players. They draw something up
on paper and it looked good, but the players still
have to go out there and run it. Those guys
didn't really listen to their players. They wanted to do
their own way and their way only as you guys
this place. Have you guys ever felt like that, like, hey,
these players aren't gonna work and how do you hand
a Let me, I'm gon backtrack a little bit. So, um,
we talked about this on our podcast about players calling
(09:27):
out upper upper management or calling out coaches, and we
both agree you have to be established in this sleep.
You have to have years on you, like Lamar, you
have to have had a resume that's strong enough to
where you can say something like that. So obviously we
all think to say, I don't see no problem with it.
If you're gonna call a player dumb, a coach down,
you gotta be a veteran that has been there, done
that has experienced. Now, now let me let me we
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back in through the back door. I'll do the analyst thing.
Listen so that I'll do the analyst thing. I was
talking to a player that will remain nameless on the
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Arizona Cardinals team, and he said, we had so much
talent on both sides of the ball, specifically on defense.
I don't understand why our defensive coordinator would try to
using a baseball uh quote changed the game in the
ninth in it, he's like, we showed up, thank you
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those I can't see lamars. He said, we showed up
to Carolina with an over complicated game plan and it
was much different than what we were used to. So
what people saw was us getting our asking. What we
knew as players was we went to a game plan
doing something completely different than we were accustomed to make stuff.
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So listen, I'm listening to him. I'm making up that's
crazy because he was in there. He was in the
locker room. I just happened to be casually talking to
one of my boys this off season, and I'm like,
for real, like I was watching it as a former
player in analysts now, like man, y'all getting the bait,
the breaks beat off you, but really, they went to
that game doing something that y'all, and I didn't. I
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didn't talk to anybody or whatever. I just watched the film. Right,
you look at the film, you look at what they
were defensively, what you guys were doing all during the season,
and you look at that game and it just looked
like two totally different teams, looked like two totally different philosophies,
you know what I mean, It just didn't look like
the same team to me. Carolina. What I mean, Carolina
is a good team. It was a good team, but
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they were that much better than the Arizona did. It
makes sense. It didn't obviously, like you know, I'm a
big Carson family that he didn't play his best game.
But still it's just the result. The result, the result
and fit what we saw out of Arizona all year.
So let me ask you this, being in that game,
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right going into the locker room at halftime, what what
were you thinking? Well, you know what I was thinking,
because I was I was hurt, so I was you know,
I was just coaching the um. But I was just
thinking that we need to make some adjustments because usually
offenses running all their places, you're gonna see everything in
the first half, so you have to make those adjustments
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and come out in the second half and do what
you gotta do. And I felt like we just didn't
make those adjustments. You know, like like you said, we
didn't have a bad team. We had a great defense.
We had a great defenses. They just knew that every
time we're in third down, we're blitzing, we're bringing the house.
Cam knew that. I'm pretty sure y'a knew that too,
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and everybody a cross Lee knew that. So what they
do They just kept on picking us apart doing that
hitting the big place. We didn't make the adjustments, and
then you have players on the sideline. You know that's
not what's going on in the game. But when there's
no communication from the man up top, things don't have
So you guys couldn't say nothing to him. Huh, you
couldn't say anything, hey, yo. And you know how certain
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people is when they get when they're get in a
certain position, you know, they feel like they know everything
and they don't listen. They don't listen to their players.
Like I said, I'm coming from Dick l Bow, you know,
great defensive coordinator. He listened to his players. So I'm
expecting if coach Dick Lebow was listening to his players,
that any other defensive coordinator's gonna listen to his players,
but especially with the amount of talent you had, Like no,
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I know, obviously guys are banged up. You and Honey
Badger with that crushed because I feel like that young boy.
So it's a trip, man, listening to what you're saying
and then kind of playing back what we saw. We
were at that game, right know, we we did game,
but listening to what you said, see I didn't. So
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now people know I'm not making it up. You know
what I'm saying because validation exactly, because at first no
one has come come out and said that. A lot
of people have criticized me, saying or lamars man because
he's not on the NFL roster this he's that. I'm
not yo. I'm telling you the truth. I'm not upset.
I'm like, I'm not upset. I got a million other
things going around. I played nine years in the league.
Why would I be upset about that. I'm just speaking
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the truth. And now that you said that, I'm like, hell,
that's fast, it's good man. But you know, It's crazy,
is that like coaches can talk about a player. They
can call player, you know, intelligent, they can call them dumb.
They can say the players are smart or he isn't fast,
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he can't jump that. They can criticize us from the
bottom down. As soon as a player says something that's legitimate,
like you with no hate involved, just saying the decordinator
was dumb. He made some dumb decision toward the end
of the year and that cost us a chance at
the Super Bowl in two thousand and fifteen sixty. All
of a sudden, that player is a guy that's out
of pocket. And we talked about this a lot. We're
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putting this box as players, right, and as soon as
we step outside of what they know us as, which
is basically jocks, we get the the brash end of it.
But I would say the better coaches, the better coaches
can sit there and and I've seen it what guys
are saying, we need to be doing this. There's some
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dumb stuff we're doing in the coach will sit there
and say, yeah, you're right, right, what y'all want to do.
But like he said, lobos On one of the best,
and I didn't know what I'm saying is Burg, but
what I knew about all my boys that played there.
He would see his talent. He would create a game
plan based off of the strengths that they have, and
that was all season long and times you have to
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adjust depending on the team. But he wasn't a guy
that saw a team was like, all of a sudden,
we're gonna do something different. Now we're gonna do what
we do best and make them adjust. And that's what
the best coaches do. Hey, TV, I know you got
a question for Lamar. What's up? Definitely? I don't know
he talking about the not till pleasant times there with
the Cardinals. But overall, most people see Bruce arians as
a fun coach to play for. And obviously you played
for Mike Tomlin for years in Pittsburgh and Mike Rod
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he played for b Carroll. So overall, I think most
people assume these like the most fun coaches to play for.
What do you guys think who was who was more
fun than why? I'm not gonna lie. I always wanted
to play for Mike Tomlin. I always wanted to get
a chance to play for him, And I'm not gonna
lie just for just from the postgame interviews, right, how honest?
To me? I felt like he was the most honest.
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I felt like he was in front of our team
room saying this to us, but he was saying it
to the camera like we just got beat, no excuses?
What do you want me to say about it? And
I always I always have respect for coaches who was
standing up there and and take it on the chain. Now,
we didn't coach right, or we didn't do this, we
could have done this better. And then on the same
time say, oh yeah, we snapped the ball to Levi
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bes he the best back in the league, and he
got it. He got it done. I'm as big as fan.
We need big with big, big back. Y'all gonna see
why I'm so excited. I'm know what I'm saying. I'm
gonna let Lamar tackle this question. Last. I'm gonna share
a quick story about Tomlin not. We were in Pittsburgh,
right uh. I was playing for Detroit. I just signed
my contract, went out there. We had a rain delay.
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It's like thunderstorms. So we're out in the locker room,
and the locker rooms are sitting my close to each other.
So I'm out there just warming up, just chilling talking
a couple of boys that I know on the steepers team,
and Mike comes out. You know, Mike super chill bro. Like,
if if you don't know Mike Tomlin, you wouldn't think
like he's this head coach in NFL. He's the guy
that you relate to and talk to. So he's like, hey,
your name, what's up. I'm like, I'm chilling, man, how
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are you doing. He's like, okay, cool, He's like yeah,
minutes Raindeer lay Man throwing everything. I was like, I
was like yeah, yeah. He was like, you know, we
was looking at you. You know, we were thinking about
bringing it to Pittsburgh. I said, yeah, yeah, I heard.
He was like, uh, how much did Detroit pay you?
I was like that they gave me five you know
they you know, Levin guaranteed something, something that you know
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I could run with. He as a real dude. He
was like, nah, we weren't gonna pay you. That's like,
now we're gonna pay that with you a good player though,
And it was like it was like a conversation you
were have at a barbershop. I didn't get mad. I
was like I laughed. I was like, no, I know
I could dig that, and this is I don't even
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play for him. So magic, like you said, Mike, the
type of relationship he has with guys on that squad
where he can criticize you, he can encourage you all
while being honest. And that's what that's all to mention.
You know, he is a young black coach in this league, thriving,
you know, doing what he does on a yearly basis.
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So let's let's talk about head coaches. Lamar, who you
like and why? What about these coaches stand out? Well?
I can. I can talk about coach Thomlin and Bruce
you know, um, you know, but coach Tomlin being that
you know, he drafted me to Pittsburgh. He's just he
always been that straight up guy. I mean fun, he
makes he makes it fun. It's a family type atmos Fear.
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I mean, every time he's in the meeting room, he's
telling some kind of story about his family and his kids.
So he tells so many stories it kind of felt
like you knew them personally, you know, just to short
the stories that he told. And I mean he treated
everybody like a man. So he wasn't big on finding
people because he said, hey, man, you got enough guys
in your pocket, enough family in your pocket. I'm not
trying to take your money, just get it under control.
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So he was always one of those type of people.
Doors are always open. I mean you can go in
there and talk to him about anything, you know. Like
I said, it felt like he was just a player
on the team, you know, because he was. He was
that cool. He didn't have he didn't have like strict
rules where it's always like an uptight thing. It was
just like, hey, learn how to be a professional, treat
yourself like a man. I'm gonna let you'all handle it.
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I don't want to have to step in and do
those type of things. And and that's how the whole
entire facility is actually. You know, when you and I
talked about Mr Rooney yesterday, it was a family atmosphere.
I mean, you see Mr Rudy in the locker room
working out. You see you know that's Art Runey in
the way room working out. You see Dan Rooney coming
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through the locker room giving people that walking through the
training room. You know, his office was always open, like
you can just go into Mr Runy, Can I talk
to you come on in. You know, they was They
was there to help you every step of the way.
You know. So that that's a great organization. And when
I got to Arizona it was the same way because
you have a lot of guys over there from Pittsburgh,
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you know, from the trainers to some of the cooks,
I mean, everybody coaching staff was like Pittsburgh there and
having coach Bruce Anon. And Bruce Anson is a straight
up dude. You know, he would cut you out. He
will tell you what's on his mind. And overall like
Coach Thomas, he's a great guy. He speaks his mind,
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he's gonna be honest with you. He's gonna treat you
like a professional, you know. And and and there it
was like a family type atmosphere, you know. So it
was it was similarity. Bruce Aeronson, Bruce Anrinson will cut
you out, that was the dipper to him and Coach Thomas.
You dun't he would tell you know what I'm saying,
you have no problem doing that. But from the owner
own down, man, it was when I say, a great organization, man,
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it was a great organization and it was very similar,
you know, just Pittsburg has been doing it for a
long period well, and I think a lot of good
coaches have a lot of similarities that family atmosphere. Pete
Carroll was the same way. A family atmosphere. Everybody felt like,
you know, you wanted to contribute to the family. Everybody
felt like you can bring your own family to the
building and be a part of meetings and all of
those types of things. Anything like I've I've brought my
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kids when they care wasn't open, had to bring my
kids to practice. Yeah, they in the office. It is
all good, you know, in the owner's office, are all good.
It's one thing about Pete that I can say. It
was different from other coaches being around him. He always,
uh was trying to teach you something deeper like and
I'm not saying that not not that that other coaches
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don't do this, but he was always you know, he
was a psych major, So everything was for a reason.
He would you know, even team meetings and where he
stood was for a reason, you know what I mean,
whether it was on stage or down there with you.
I mean, all of those things made it made a difference.
The type of music he was playing during practice, All
of those things made a difference, and he always knew
that coaching was kind of something that I may have
wanted to do one day. So we would always have
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these conversations, and he was very intentional about everything, you know, uh,
with videos that were shown, who was in the in
the weight room, with the types of personalities that were
in the locker room. He would call us when he
would make big you know, I remember when Percy Harvin
was we were thinking about getting Percy and he called
you know me, you know, called camp Chancellor. I know,
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he called Tommy, called a lot of the veterans, a
lot of veterans, a lot of leadership. It was like, yo,
how does it? How do you think this personality would fit?
And not a lot of coaches do that, you know
what I mean? So, uh, Pete was all of that,
all fun and games, all of that, uh, but again
he was always about something a little bit deeper to
and speaking of deeper, somebody that got deeper pockets. It's
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Fletcher Cotto. So let's touch on that man second before
TD give us another Um. Okay, so may von Miller
pay that dude? Man? You see this, No Nate, no Nate,
you see this. John Elway need to stop playing with
this lad's money. They get his man sixty million guaranteed. Right, Okay,
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I'm talking on Von Miller. Okay for those Okay, for
those listening, can we talk about he paid his dudes
next year one and three million dollar contract. Um. If
I'm Von, I'm like, that's the most in total value
for a nine quarterback. Okay, So let's let's go through
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the process of negotiations. Like there's a little bit. He
got twenty six million to sign to day just to
sign his name. That's crazy. Twenty six million signed his name. Okay.
So we've been through contract negotiations. I've been through three
of them myself. Personal, I haven't really Okay, I a
little bit. I played back dog. This are you trying
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to sit out of football for a year? You want to?
You're like, I take switch, let me get hey man.
All right, Okay, Well, then let's talk about these contracts
negotiations because they can get a little sticky. Well, people
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see what people don't know. They see the big numbers
and they're like, oh man, you know my favorite player
got paid or he got underpaid, overpaid. That's all they see.
What we know is your agent calls you and he's like, hey, yo,
So the team's talking. They this is they first offer.
First offer. What you see on TV is never the
first offer you don't take. So what's attached to what
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we hear your first offer is all the negative things
about you. So for everybody listening to imagine, you know,
for a guy that works downtown l A in a cubicle,
your boss comes in, he's like, hey, I know your
your contracts almost up. Um, this is what we want
to pay you, and this is why we're gonna pay this.
It's not all the positive things. I remember every contract negotiation,
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it was about how old I am, the injuries I've had,
the system I'm in, the better players out there. So
it's almost like they're trying to mess with your mind.
So you all of a sudden have a lower self appreciation.
But if you signed that lower contract, oh man, we
love you. Talk about it. Talk about contract negotiations and
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how you dealt with them as a young professional and
then as a veteran. I mean, just as you know,
when I signed my first big contract in Pittsburgh, Um,
you know what and what was that? I would talk numbers, bro,
you can't get this. The RB Podcast don't forget. We
can look at you ain't forget how much it was
what I forgot and they never forgot how much dollars.
(25:57):
I see the roles on this. You try took it away.
I'm looking at my album watch over here. Okay, so
another guy you got to watch. I got to to watches.
He like T boy. Alright, alright, so first contract you
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think it was around what because we know we could
look it up. Yeah, my first deal was I signed
a six year, sixty one and a half million dollar
contract and this was this is when uh, after my
fourth year how old yea? Yeah, so Pittsburgh let me
play at my rookie contract. Um and and we want
to the negotiations that came low, you know, but you know,
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we just kept fighting for more, you know, because I
did put up great numbers, and uh, I put up
some I put up some great numbers, and I felt like,
you know, this is a type of money I should
have if you look back on they said I shouldn't
have it, because like I hurt. But I always tell people,
you get paid for what you did, right, You get
paid for what you did the potential of what you
can and with the potential of what you can. Yeah,
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so but you get paid for what you did. But um,
what most people, when you're speaking about contracts, what they
don't know is they look at the overall, the big number.
But a lot of teams backloads your contracts and then
you're five and six that you never see. So when
they always wonder about why players are fighting for guaranteed
money and more upfront money because most teams is gonna
(27:25):
cut you back there. So a lot of people trying
to get that guaranteed money right away up front, you know.
But a lot of people, man, you should take this,
you know, because they're not gonna make it a year
five and six. They're gonna screw you and cut you.
And that's why people try to get their money up
front with the big sign of bonus. And I wanted
my money up front up front, all right, so you know,
I'm gonna go off the rails a little bit. TD.
So you were, you were down with your rookie deal
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and you got this big contract at twenty six years old.
That's life changing. Now you are, you're already in the league,
you're already established, you already made some money, you're already
a millionaire now you're taking a different into like that
upper echelon of financial stability at twenty six years old.
What were you thinking when you knew that still was
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att I mean what I was thinking. I mean, the
first thing I thought about was like, now we have
money in this family to pass it on for generations.
You know, That's the first thing that crossed my mind
s we finally put a Woodley stamp on something where
when I'm dead and going, there's gonna be some money passed.
So that's the very first thing that crossed my mind.
And then after that, I mean, I already had plan
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for the contract, so I knew what exactly what I
was gonna do for my family, my mom my dad.
So I kind of had everything already set up. That's
how much I'm gonna spend on the house. You know,
this is I'm gonna take care of. So the blueprint
was already laid out because we knew it was coming.
You know, I didn't want to get into the situation
now the money come, Oh what I do? Now I'm
making bad decisions because I'm trying to make quick decisions,
you know what I'm saying. So the blueprint was already
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set out and all we had that that's the hardest part.
Having a plan, definitely the hardest part. Man. So just
before we get to this beat, T D. Lamar from
what I took from that is for these young boys
listening to the podcast that's in the league, have a
plan that the goal is to make money, right, So
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don't be caught off guard when you make the money.
Have a plan, layer blueprint down. So when you get
this money, you got decisions based off of making this
money and keeping this money going, not just for you
in this lifetime. You're gonna be rich. You made it
to the league, You're rich right now. The goal is
to be wealthy for generations. Hey TV, let me get
(29:35):
a beat. That's a freestyle beat, right definitely? Yea yeah,
I like that. I like that. Let me get little
water real quick, clear my throat and I'm saying hold on,
uh yeah, I like that. I ain't freached out in
a minute, bring it right back. Everybody listening to the
(29:58):
podcast like, oh boy, I like that. See Lamar says
some real stuff. How could he? But that's real talk
from Woodley. He said the decordinator didn't do his job,
and everybody got down to shape the odds. Ain't tripping.
We're not tripping. We doing our things. We're on the
field trying to get it ranked. I didn't get it
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ranked and I played eleven gears. That's get him sweat
and tears. But still I'm here. Do what we do though,
keep it real. I'm just not let me chill. Mar
hight back there, He's like, let's go in the drop.
All right, So let's let's do a depth chart debates. Um,
(30:41):
you know we got one of the best to do it,
Lamar in the building. Um, let's talk about it. Let's
talking about let's talk about best. That's basketball. Basketball. I
really feel like I know about I don't know more
about the NBA and NFL, but we'll get and we'll
get to that. And speaking of the NBA, TV got
(31:01):
the Dope podcast. Yeah, TD gotta they can take it.
The podcasts fire. Um, all right, so um, let's talk linebackers.
Let's talk about We'll do this real quick so we
don't run out of time. Let's talk about who you
looked up to before you got in the league. Let's
talk about when you were in it, aside from yourself,
who you thought was a monster, and then who was
(31:23):
that dude right now. So this is the past present
future depth chart debates. William asked all the questions, Hey,
we get it, popping the question already. What did you
look up to from yesteryear when you were in it?
Who was the man aside from yourself and right now? Well,
(31:44):
when I asked president, when I first, I mean looking
up to somebody least, it wasn't actually a linebacker. I
looked up to Jerome Bettis and like Hines Ward as
far as like a position, not particularly a linebacker, you know,
I just like the way they played the game. Really yeah,
just having to be Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, I was a
still a fan growing so that really great for me.
So when I got in the lead, you know, it
was ray Lewis like watching them, I mean everything, you know,
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the attitude he played with, how he was the leader
out there in the field. And then one thing I
respected about him too is I had a chance to
talk to ray Lewis my freshman, my rookie year at
at the Super Bowl and I talked to him after
we beat them in the ANFC Championship at the Super Bowl,
and he said, man, go out here and sees this opportunity. Yeah,
because you never know when it's gonna happen again, Like,
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take advantage of this. I'm like, man, we just beat them,
and he's giving me advice to going here into the
Super Bowls and win. He said, Man, last year when
I talked to you, I think I gave you too
much advice because 'all came in and I but it
was great advice. So I looked up to to Ray
Lewis and and I used to like watching Patrick Willis play.
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I mean he was over the field. I mean he
played with that with that dog attitude. He was sidelines,
sideline down hill. Yeah, he was a dog mean but
and you know, I had guys on my own team,
like the James Harrison and I had James Ferry, and
I had Lawrence Timmis, so I had I had a
bunch of guys on my team too. And I was like, hey,
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the boys getting it. They had line back. How was
that playing against like that type of corps Because you know, Mike,
you're a fullback. There's games you're going to, the games
you're going to forget that, you know, you know, you know,
we all men. So you're like, you know, you start
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watching on tape. You know, you're looking at body types
and all of that, you know, but half of the
time you didn't know where these cats coming from. That's
where it was. You be in the backfield like I'm
just staying in, bro, Just somebody gonna come to me,
you know what I'm saying that. That was really the
hard part about playing Pittsburgh, Bro, Like it tested everything.
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And then with Troy back there, Bro, you make the
key like something something happening over here, then they send
like fine cats on the other side, you know what
I mean. That's what made it difficult. And then when
you figuring out what they were doing, you had the
physical confrontation you had to uh try to overcome. I
remember James Harrison slapped me on the butt one time. Dog.
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He almost told my quad mom. I was like, dog man,
oh man, Slama, Who who do you think is the
best in the game? Right? Man? I got two guys.
I got the guy from Carolina Luke. Yeah, I'll tell
you one. I'm Tommy David. Make that man look good too.
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He he helped me. Alright, Mike, I take that back
my back list, let him talk shut up, and you
know I got to go back to Pittsburgh. My man shakes,
he are gonna do some stull. Oh he gonna really yea,
he gonna go. They need him to. He gonna go. Yeah,
he gonna go. I like it. Alright, alright, that's what's
up man. Alright. So that was depth to oard debates.
(35:01):
Let me get or not? TD, What do you have
for us right now on this or not? So this
is our orna segment for sure. For sure, as as
Lamar says, he is a big hoops guy, and you
know we all are to some extended again, Draymond the
final is going on right now. Yas one Game five,
Draymond did not play because of the step over. So
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my question to you guys is did you view Lebron
step over Draymond Green as disrespect or not? And I know, Lamar,
I know the dreamanager boy too so interested to hear
your thoughts on this, all right, so uh hey, Lamar,
just let's check on man. That move Lebron did as
a sucker move. Okay, you gotta keep it real. They
(35:44):
down by twenty or thirty or whatever. He realized that
the Golden State Warriors still can beat him if they
shut down Clay and Curry, So who do he really
go after? The man that really holds that team together
is Draymond Green, So let's not a pick a fight
with him at the end of the game, and you
know he's gonna react. Knocked him down, step over and
did this that pushing all that, But then go to
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the media and talk about, man, this guy said some
disrespectful things that I got kids, that this and that. Yeah,
it was almost kind of like telling you know what
I'm saying the commissioner to view the tate looking too,
that this guy's a problem. And then soon as he
do it, Draymond gets suspended. What happened? Then Lebron go
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out there dropped forty one because he didn't have nobody guarding.
So he built a little confidence. But on Thursday, that's
gonna get taken back away. I like it. What do
you say about people who have the mindset that Draymond
has done that quite a Draymond is kind of look
he on the fence. I like him as a player,
(36:49):
but he is on just keep it real. The Draymond
has been playing that way ever since he was in elementary. Like,
that's how far I go back with Draymond ever since elementary.
He always had that attitude, that that aggressive attitude going
out there playing ball. You ain't gonna pump me. What
happened is the league just got soft. So now you
(37:10):
know it started with the Ben Wallace is and giving
all them guys tech and they're making the lead soft.
And by the league getting soft is trickling down to hey,
you and all them elementary and all that. So you
got a guy like Draymond and you said that you
know what I'm saying. Charles Barkley did say though, that
Draymond had a moral obligation to go after And as
you guys know, I have nine dream family back home.
(37:31):
It is total disrespect. If someone steps over you, now
you have to make the person to step back the
other way because it's straight up disrespect. We don't play that.
It's hey, if he had a problem, you should have
just seen him in the back. Hey, how light me
in the back? You know what I'm saying, take this
off the court, all right, that's what That's what somebody
real would have did. I can dig that. So you're
saying that the Goats stay Warriors are gonna close this out.
(37:55):
Now I'm gonna ask because I love who Now that I
I got you here, I know you gotta go. We
gotta go. What about being out, Draymond miss in the game,
Curry and Clay not necessarily playing up to standards. STEP's
hurt right now. I think it's I think it's fairly obvious,
but or it could be the shoes. Yeah, but I'm
just saying, and Kyrie and Lebron both dropped forty one
(38:17):
like that ain't gonna happen every night, And I'm going
for you know why Lebron dropped forty one because Draymond
wasn't in and when Draymond is in, Steph Curry and
UH and Clay played different because I mean, Draymond, get
that ball out the rim and help that offense go
and Steph Kurry And now you gotta respect everybody. You
gotta respect more people on the court now. But now
(38:37):
Dramond gone, you know they was able to do something.
But now I might go to the game now on Thursday,
because every time I've been to every championship game that
Draymond played in, all the championship games, I've been there
and they won, they were they lost when Michigan State
North Carolina. But I've been, and I might go to
this one just because I know they're gonna close it out,
just because just so you could be there part of
(38:57):
all right, So I like that. I love and hey,
speaking to NBA, talked before we let everybody go TD,
I said, I had another story last week. I was
at the spot called the Nice Guy. Right. It's a
little low key lounge to do a little little dinner
and food. So I was in there at my boy
Reggie Bush with chilling, and Russell Westbrook was in there.
So I'm always cashable to like run up on somebody
because I just don't know our cats act. And uh,
(39:19):
they were like, you know, Russ is in here. He's
a cool guy. You know he should probably say what's up.
So I walked over to him. I was like, look,
I want to take up too much of your time.
I'm maybe I played in the league. He was like yea,
he showed me up. And I was like, look, I
gotta ask this question. If you played football, what position?
Because you know, we always look at like the real
athletic like slashers as like, oh he could have played ball,
(39:41):
he could have played football. And so I'm sitting there
He's like he thought about. He's like, I don't know.
You know, when I was younger, I played running back,
you know, but now, like you know, I don't know
if I want to play offense. I think if I
played right now, i'd be a safety. And I was like, oh,
like like a you know, like a big time hitter.
He's like yeah, because I let a hit. It was
(40:04):
like like Cam Chancellor. He was like, yeah, like a
Cam Chancellor. So we'll leave this for another conversation. But
what I'm saying is when you look at some of
these athletes and other sports, oftentimes we don't translate a
basketball player to a football player. What's the rest book,
(40:24):
It's one of those guys that could take his NBA
jersey off and put on the NFL jersey. So that's
my story. Mike's not buying it. I can tell. I
got looking at the micro right now. I know Mike.
I told I told story, and he was like camp.
I'm like why. First of all, they I don't sound
(40:46):
like he's so explosive, bron I don't sound like kind
of do man. Second of all, second of all, he's
at it's a lot easier for someone to go from
a contact sport to me, just my opinion, it's a
lot easier for a football player to go to basketball
than a basketball player to come to this contact sport.
(41:08):
This is a different animal over here, this is all
right now, is a different animal. And then here talking
about banging. He talking about getting in that box. Come on, man,
if I seen Russell Westbrook, come on down in this box, dog,
I'm taking his lunch money. And I don't give a
damn how explosive Russell. I'm taking his lunch money. Helmet.
They put that wood on you. They pro you don't
(41:30):
believe that. You know what I know exactly exactly that's
what I said, receiver DV or something like that. I
think that's perfect for them. But you talk about getting
down in that box, you're banging with cats outside. Dog.
Russell Westbrook a six four like. It's not like he's
a small dude. I'm not talking about heights. Russell's NBA
(41:51):
is a He's an NBA is Odell Backham, That's what
it is. But I can see that, I can see
him doing Odell Beckham type stuff on the outside. Don't
come down, don't come down in that Robin wanted no
part of that track. Robinson worked there for our former team. Yes, shaw,
he did. The Robinson played eleven years, slammed up Champion.
They passed on peak here on them, so we'll see
(42:12):
if football they may pick it. Trust me, I know
he's a cat that I can see Week four teen fifteen.
He just want to do something to create a little
buzz or whatever outside for a couple of weeks. That's
saying a couple of games, playoffs already sold up. Hey, well, listen,
I appreciate you joining us a little man. Appreciate it.
(42:33):
Hey man, anytime you in town, stop by at Mike
and I'm gonna keep it one hunting. I ain't never
had anybody in the studio with two watches on, so like,
that's pretty dope at different time zones. Ain't dropping knowledge.
Hey listen, t d lest the altro step wealth right there, man, Okay,
(42:57):
oh go ahead, And they were talking about give me
a subject subject I don't know, and stop thinking. Let
me wrap this water hydra to start drinking. Lamar. Appreciate
you coming to That's real talk. We don't just talk
(43:17):
that talk, man, This is real. Walk from the East
coast to the west though I ain't trying to brag,
but homie, this is the best show. Everybody want to
talk about that? No, come on, man, out the cuts. Man.
I just can't. I can't just do it, at it
and keep going. That's true. I forgot come on man,
man talking about he stopped to be talented. Man, do
(43:37):
your thing a head, Mike, you go, huh what. I
don't rap, I don't wrap the thing. Then I don't
think I just pick that. I just picked that thing. Man. Listen,
it's the R and B Podcast. Man. I appreciate everybody.
We'll see you all next week. Part
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