May 31, 2016 • 45 mins
Mike Robinson and Nate Burleson react to the latest NFL news including Ryan Fitzpatrick's contract situation and Peyton Manning almost signing with the Titans in 2012. The guys then discuss the running back position in "Depth Chart Debates" and pick a winner for the NBA Finals.
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gonna tip, but I like the CD. So coming up
on today's show, we're gonna talk Brandon Browner b B. Yeah,
BB always talking that stuff, man, and that's what do
you do well? And we're gonna talk Ryan Fitzpatrick of course,
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hey man, he better do something. Yeah, we're gonna cover
uh W man, y'all boys, Man, why y'all doing that?
I got stuff on my mind today, Mike, Hey man,
I got stuff on my mind today. Man. Let's go,
and we're gonna continue our our new segment, which is
Depth Chart Debates, and we're gonna talk running. Come on, man,
you know I got a lot for you. I know
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you gotta I'm ready, and then we'll wrap our show
with or No. That's the segment from producer T D,
a dope segment he came up with. And speaking of
our producer t D, you gotta tell the people what
they need to do. What's something fellas don't know what
you gotta so this weekend, but what the people need
to do. If you're a parent, especially if you're a parent,
please to not let your son or your kid into
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a gorilla's cage. Come on, guys, all and look, things happen,
Mistakes happen. Just listen, listen, hit me out, Just hit
me out for a second, because I we don't know
the circumstances, but I'm pretty sure they have bars so
that the kid couldn't get there. But all right, I'm
not gonna lie. Man. You know, you got people out
there saying, you know, you saved the gorilla, which I'm
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I'm I agree on that. You don't want to take
the gorilla's life, right, But if that was your kid
and your kid was over there and you saw that
kid kid getting drugs like that, I would have jumped
over and I would have said, you gotta do something. Yeah,
you gotta do something. Some people are saying, well, uh,
shocked the gorilla, taste them, but or wound them. Listen,
you wound a gorilla next to a base. That gorilla
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is about to go bananas. Bananas. So, first of all,
just like you said, TV, why is your child so
close to the gorilla? Man? Like, why how did how
did the child? I have no idea. I don't even
know if I want to know, right, But I tell
you one thing, my kids won't be anywhere near when
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we go to the zoo. It's a cautionary till man. Yeah,
I tell you that one thing, and I'm learned. I'm
one of those I don't have to go through that
experience to have to learn from. I can watch other people.
I was watching Kevin Hart stand up and he was
talking about how gorilla slapped the glass. Yeah, it's like
to me, just escaped. That's about I'll be at the
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little I don't know, the ferret exhibit, and things get
too close. I'm backing up. I'm listen, I am not
Jack Hannah. I'm not gonna be out here talking and
touching animals. I ain't got to do a little never
get that, don't get too close. But I ain't got
to do that, So definitely, please that's what you needed
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is TV man, you gotta beat for us, man, Let's
get it. Um um uh yeah like that. It's like
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I can hear some early early Will Smith when he
was the fresh Prince wrapping on that June, Like, hey
my boy, Brandon Browner b B back in the l
O B up in Seattle. He goes on Instagram, he
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calls out the Saints. He calls him weak and I
can hear BB, but I can hear him already, calls
him weak. He says he took he said he He
says he took that few millions. Yes, part of the
part of one of the worst defenses to ever step
on the field. So in NFL history, he got paid
a few million dollars. Yeah, he did play with the team.
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And now he's you know, going to Instagram social media
and calling him weak. But but I got it. I
got in his defense. I think it was just a
reaction to a fan. Fans are coming at him, coming
at him. It wasn't like he just went up there
just to post. It wasn't like he just went out
there to do that. Listen, I understand sometimes you feel
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like you gotta respond to the fans and and kind
of you know, defend decisions you make, our teams, you
played on them. But this is the wrong way to
go about it. I respect Brandon Brown, like I love
the way he plays. He's one of those dudes that
you always have to account for. Big, fast, strong, um.
You know, even at the age he's playing that now
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he's gonna be effective, you know in the llob Back Reunited.
But you never first of all, you never bite one
of the hands that fed you and fed your family.
And it's almost in a sense that you're burning the bridge.
Like I know, maybe he doesn't have any top, But
what if he had some personal stuff, like really like
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what if And again I'm just going about what we
see on TV. We saw him arguing with Dennis Allen,
the defensive coordinator, Right, what if it? What if it
was part of that anger comes from maybe a feel
of disrespect. I mean, we we've been there. We've been
there when we felt like coaches have disrespected us or
not put us in the right position to succeed. Not
I mean, I get that, but you don't when you
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say a team. When you say the Saints, you're talking
about a whole organization and everybody that's within it, you know,
And what if you know he's you know, a couple
of years down the line, he wants to getting the
coaching or say he's a free agent and they're looking again.
And and another reason I don't really like the statement
is because when you give the fans a reason to
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think you're playing for just the money, it dilutes what
fans appreciate about us. They appreciate the fact that even
with a cloud of dollar signs hanging over everybody's head,
they can appreciate the fact that we do it because
we love it when you make it come in like, man,
I just took them a few million. I ran with it.
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It's like, Bro, he was there to collect the check.
And we know guys that did that. Yeah, And that's
what I was about to say. I mean, there are
guys in this league that do it because they don't.
They don't say it is okay, right, but this is
my thing, this is my thing on the whole thing.
And again, b B, I would consider him a friend, right,
and I probably would have advised him not to say
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this quite frankly. But let's say last year happened like this.
Let's say he made three million last year. There was
a few millions he said he stole. Right, Um, Let's
say this man was an all pro last year and
led the league in pis p bus all of that,
and really wanted to be paid fifteen sixteen millions, as
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that's what top corners are paid. Right. Do you think
the team would renegotiate and give him his money? They're
gonna use him for with they needed to use him
for and and be all BB is saying is, hey, man,
I needed a job. They gave me a job, and
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I took the millions that was there. I probably could
have went to I probably could have stayed in New
England or stay somewhere or went somewhere else, took less,
you see what I'm saying, and been more successful last year.
But I took a guy. I took a gamble, y'all
just like I took a gamble of me as I'm
just saying, I'm just playing Devil's advocate. I get that.
But his team's doing us all the time. But we
I'm just breaking down, like what he said, And for
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him to say Saints are weak, he was a Saint,
so essentially you're a weak two. I mean, the defense
was terrible. It's just like me knocking the Lions and being,
you know, being a guy that can look back and say, man,
they were garbage and I didn't like the city. Man,
the whole organization's wack. Lions are terrible. I would be
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talking about myself. So, you know, for him to make
that comment out thinking, like you said, it was just
more of him and the last back it was. I
think I think it was an emotional response. But again,
we live in a fishbowl. I can't do that. But
I tell I tell you one thing and this I'm
gonna digress a little bit. Sometimes fans like the wrongness
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of that, right because again I go back to a
couple of weeks ago, Mars Shawn came to my football,
my my dinner and all of that. He gave a speech, right,
I think we talked about it last week again he
cursed every other word, right, which was okay, that's him.
But the the like people had cameras that they loved
it because again they knew he was crazy. They wanted
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to see it and they got a chance to see it.
And it's almost one of those where some fans like, man,
you know, I respect them for that, but from talking
about BB now, I respect him for saying that because
if that's I want to know the realness about it.
If that's how he felt last year he took the money,
he took the money. I'll do what I'm saying. I
can dig that, Mike. But you I know, man, I'm
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just playing Devil's advocate a little bit. Man, But I
got to there's certain guys that you expect, expect realness from,
and he's one of them. So I'm okay with that. Now, Listen,
we we gotta talk about a couple of receivers. You know,
I knew you was gonna get in there. Listen, we
have to man. Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall reportedly stood
up for still unsigned Ryan Fitzpatrick. So the question is,
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before I give my my two cents, um, how do
you feel about this Mike, you know, because they're saying
that they didn't show up for O T A S,
which right now is what voluntary. But the coach said
one doesn't have to do with the other. The coach said,
we knew they weren't here is unrelated. But these are
your two starting wide receivers who have spoken highly of
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Ryan Fitzpatrick, so of course they want to see their
guy get paid and back in the uniform on the
field sooner than later. Do you think it's okay for
guys to take a stand like this when one of
their teammates Slash free Ends are going through it financial
dispute with the organism. First of all, they're back in
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the building today and Fitzpatrick isn't back on the building
and today's too say you know what I mean. So
if it was related to that, they still wouldn't be
in the building. Okay, Um, I tell cats all the time. Man,
those guys are under contract. Fitz He isn't right. So
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no matter how much support they want to give, no
matter what they think of the situation, they don't handle
the team's money. And at the end of the day,
if they want to continue to have their career going successfully,
they gotta show up and work. And the Jets understand that.
And again I I understand, you know, hey, you know
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I'm doing this from a quarterback. The quarterback, I get it, right.
But again, just like we said last week, Ryan Fitzpatrick
is going to have to make a decision, right do
I want to retire? Because if we get into the
season at a pro rated rate, he's not gonna get
the fifteen million he wants so now, and that's that's
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waiting for somebody to get hurt and then somebody signing you.
He's not gonna get that money. This is the most
money he's gonna get, and less somebody sustained sustains a
big injury before training camp, which the odds of that
had happened in a slim Okay, So that's where we're at.
The team knows that there's no market for him, okay,
and and and and the receivers if they, if they're smart,
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they better come on, get into practice and get with
the quarterback that's probably gonna be throwing them the ball
this year. Okay, because at the end of the day,
you better start thinking about, you know, so success this season. Reportedly,
they were saying that the contract was around twelve million
the first year, and I think an said this morning
fifteen million guarantees and then six million a year after that,
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so it drops significantly. Okay, So say fits continues to
trend upward and he has career numbers like he did
last year. But the man, I gotta stop right there.
You're talking about a cat in year thirteen or year
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twelfth thirteen, and you keep saying ascending like he's not like,
like he's gonna get that much better? Now, what if
he does? Come on, come on, system, come on, they
will show me then, guys they're surround, show me, then
him with but then showed me. Then take this deal
and then go back to the table next you show
me then, but you know they won't pay him if
he's if he how do you know that if he
comes back, if he comes back and say, look, okay,
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well my head, y'all, I'm gonna make this fIF team
million this year, okay, because I'm gonna hit all my
marks or whatever. I make this fIF team and that's
what I want, and then next year we can have
another problem. Why not do that? Then? If you if
you want to play, why not do this because you
just said, Mike, if you're under contract, you're obligated. Now
all of a sudden retired, He's a disgrunt or employee
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next year. If he knows, Man, I'm playing better than
half of the NFL quarterbacks, and all of a sudden,
I'm I'm making six million dollars over ask him to
give you one year, fully guarantee contract. That's what he should.
You know what I'm saying, and just better on yourself.
I mean again, if you okay, I need to be
making this type of money. And again I'm not saying
I'm I want fits to get paid what he thinks
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he's what he thinks he's worth. But I'm also a
guy that I'm about reality. If there were three or
four other teams out there chasing them, then you got
a point, man. Other teams are leverage. That's how this
game works. But you're still sitting out there, Bro, we're
o t s man. This is where your time and
get down. This is when you figure out little stuff
you want to do in the season. When you try
that double pass, when you try to reverse, when you
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try to throwbacks and all, this is when you do it.
I get that mighty but it's also volunteer. I understand
its volunteer. Bro, I understand his volunteer. But as you know,
there's more expected out of that position. And whether it's
volunteer or not, the quarterbacks gotta be there. You can
say what you want. The core the back of every
every team, all thirty two, all thirty two teams quarterback
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rooms are completely there during the voluntary part of the
off season. Let me ask you this. You're talking about
the organization, the Jets organization, having the most leverage in
this back and forth between him and Fitzpatrick, or Fitzpatrick
in the organization. But you know, like I know, you're
only as good as your backups, right, the question I
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have for you. You keep saying that if fits doesn't
make this happen, then Decker and Marshall will be catching
from whoever it is, Hackenburg, Geno Smith, who they got
the young they definitely don't want. Hey look like, hold
a hold on, hold up, Let's get to that question
about it for a second, though. I ain't mean to
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cut you out, so I think about it. What's up
if you got if you Geno, you're sitting up there
with the with the stink phace dog like cus. Y'all
keep trying to chase this man, giving them more money.
I'm sitting right here. I'm your god. I'm your god.
Did you draft the guy get rounded and you're giving
them reps? You dropped the guy last year. You're giving
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them reps. But that's that's no knock to Gino. But
yes it is. Yes, it is a knot to Gino.
I guess it is. But just play well. He's asked
some opportunities and he didn't play well. So the question is, sorry,
is fits out of the guys the list of guys
on that roster fits at home. The guys don't feel
right now? It fits clearly the best quarterback for this
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team right now. Yeah, now he is, but not for
sixteen million season, that's your answer. Okay, Now I can
think that if the price drops, Okay, yeah, he becomes
a lot more attractive, we can do something with him.
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But I know, I don't know to bow but I
played against to bowls. Okay, defensive ki defensive coaches say,
you know what I don't. You ain't gotta give me
a Just give me a guy that done turn the
ball over the hand the ball off can make the
simple throw can be manageable from the sideline. Let my defense,
special teams and run game win the ball game from me,
I could I love that world. That's what That's what
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Tar Bowls are saying. So if I, if I got
to develop a rookie, do it, do it. And you
know what this kind of reminds me. Um uh, what
happened when I actually I was on my way out
of San Francisco at the time. But when Crabtree, Michael
Crabtree I first signed and he was going through his
contract disputing things like that, and uh, it was a
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lot of questions as a weather how it would affect
the locker room. And my thing was at first, ain't
gonna affect the locker room now, And we don't know
this guy. He's a rookie, so we don't know how
to love him or like him or whatever what. But
what happened was when he did sign in the middle
of training camp, when he did come back and he
you know, was hurt, you know, hurt quote quotation marks hurt.
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Uh and he didn't playoff preseason and you know it
did start, it did start to rub the locker room
the wrong way. It's like, dude, Oh so you you
you stayed away to get your money, and in this
particular instance, he was a rookie, it hadn't done anything.
And then when you come back, you ain't even putting
up your load of the work. You see what I'm saying,
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And and and and pushing this back to Fitzpatrick again,
when he got paid in Buffalo, losing the next couple
of seasons after that, his history says, when you get
when you reward him for those his greatest seasons ever,
with your other quarterbacks just regular seasons, you know what
I mean, When you're paying a reward him for that.
But that's the market value, Mike. You have to pay
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a guy for what he's done. And then this lead,
it's whatever you done for me lately, and lately fits
is the guy for the job. I just hope he
gets on that roster because I feel like they're better
team with him. I agree with him, I agree with you,
they are all right now. Now, speaking of quarterbacks, let's
talk about pay Manning. You know, he's why you gotta
talk about Page. He has been in the news and
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he tired, tired drinking a beer right now, tired. He
better be chi. Yeah, chilling, really chilling. Well, let's talk
about what he was doing in two thousand twelve, getting
the size nine hat. He got a big smart but
I got a big hand, so I could talk about
another guy. Ye, No, I get um. So Peyton Manning.
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They said he was close to signing with the Titans
in two thousand twelve. What what that have been a
move that would have redefined what we know as the
great Peyton Manning? Uh? Two thousand twelves we were still playing. Yeah, yeah,
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I was in there. I went to the to the
division around lost to Atlanta that year. Um, I don't know, Um,
I don't know. I don't know if it would have
really hurt his legacy like that. I know he would
have Hey, neat it too. Probably have to play play
the Coats twice a year, you know what I'm saying,
because he has. I mean, that's that's the place Peyton built.
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Um who was the head coach of the time, mun checked,
Mike Monk checked. You know. Uh, I don't know. And
again I took a visit to Tennessee when I got
released the year we wanted Super Bowl in Seattle and
I got back. I don't know if that franchise at
that time in twelve was stable enough for Peyton Manning.
Peyton is a guy who the organization has to be stable.
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The Ducks have to be in a role, you know,
they have to be You don't have to treat every
situation with the urgency, you know what I mean. And
I just didn't get that sense from the Titans organization
when I took my visit. But they were losing franchise
at the time. He would have had Kenny Britt and
c Jo running back, Lavel Hawkins, receiver, Kendall Right a receiver.
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He would add some decent talent, some decent talent, but
they weren't. They weren't a threat to the NFL. No,
they weren't. But but I don't know, I look at
that team in relation to the rest of the a
f C. Because again, even when Peyton was playing with
it with the Coats, don't have a look at the division.
It was always in relation to the entire AFC. You
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always looked at New England, You always looked at teams
like that that he was gonna eventually play to get
to the super Bowl. That's what all all that matter.
And to me, he had a lot more. Um Uh,
he had a better supporting cast, he had a better
organization in Denver, being that John Elway had played in
all the all the things that he does in the
front office. It was better for Peyton. I don't see
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them being that strong in the playoffs if they would
have if he would have stayed with Tennessee. I just
that's just my opinion on that. Okay. Now that's basically
Peyton saying almost made this decision. The question I have
for you is, we're there moments in your career where
you could have went left instead of going right. Was
there a team that you could have signed with that? Oh? Man,
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I was a backup running back, fullback, uh, special team guy,
and Nate ain't had you know, my options? Want want
won't like that. A lot of trust me with a a
lot of a lot of interest in the NFC West
because they got a chance to see me. Right. Um,
but right after we won the Super Bowl and actually
I was getting myself prepared to continue doing this jet
to do this job, and I got a call from Pete.
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I remember my wife and now we were going to
the movies with the kids, and I got a call
from Pete and everybody was on the you know, everybody
the phone was on the on the loudspeaker in the car.
You know, my kids know, pe hey, coachah and they
say hi to him and he's like, Mike, you know,
we don't know how this thing is gonna shake up.
You know, stay ready, stay ready. And I'm like, well, coach,
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you know I can't sit here and wait on you
are you are you telling me that I'm probably gonna
be back, because if you are, I'm about to turn
this car round and go to the gym. You know
what I'm saying. But if you can't tell me that,
I gotta go with this. I gotta go with this
hot street gun riding. I gotta go with this workout
put in the transition already r And he was like,
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I can't guarantee nothing, Like I just can't. I said, well, coach,
I love you to death. Man, I'll be here when
you need me. Uh. Scott mccluhen um in Washington when
he first got the general manager job, he wanted to
wanted to see if I wanted to be the player
engagement guy there, and again, that's one of those types
of jobs where you can be around for a long time. Um,
I really thought about it. But you know what, men,
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it would have been no R and B if I didn't.
You know, I'm gonna listen for me. You know, my
first free agency experience was I was I was a
restricted free agent in Minnesota. Seattle put that tinder in
and um, they matched, they matched it, and they gave
me the big contract. And then that's from the whole
poison pill with Steve Hutchinson happened. Uh so I didn't
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really have a choice on where else I could have went. Now,
obviously I could have went back to Minnesota, but I
decided to go back Seattle, go back home. But then
after Seattle four years, four year contract, played it out,
made off on money and with it took five millions
and it was more than a few but I so,
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you know, I was sitting there thinking, you know, where
can I go? Um, Detroit Lions reached out and uh,
you know, I never consider going there, but Scott Linehan
was there and I wanted to wait because my agents said, look,
there's teams that need a god they needed they need
the legitimate number two. You had a couple of big years,
you almost had a thousand yards twice, but you had injuries.
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So in four years you put up some numbers so
you're respected. And he was talking about Pittsburgh. He's talking
about the Patriots. You should have went there, and he
was should have went to one. I'm just gonna you
should have went there. You know, it's crazy. So here's
it's crazy. Like I thought about those teams and they're
they're winning programs, organizations that every player wants to play for.
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But what got me excited wasn't a team that gave
a legitimate like push for me. It was an article
about a team that needed me in That article was
found in Dallas. I got this, Dallas got this. I
got le They were saying, this is the perfect guy
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for the job. He's a perfect number two, great leader. Um,
this is the guy you want. This is two thousen.
So I'm not sure who was there, but I was
geeked up. Mike, I'm talking about I sent the article
to my dad. I'm about to be a cowboy. You know.
They were on hard knocks and you know, t O
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was making T shirts and I'm thinking to myself, this
is gonna make me not a star on the helmet,
but just a star in general. You play for that
team and you win and you build your brand. It's perfect.
But they never actually took their shot. So for me,
it was just like college recruiting. The team that wanted
me the most. School they want me the most. That's
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where I went, and that's why I went in Detroit.
That's dope. Name a TV man. We got another beat man.
Let's transition. Oh uh, sounds like we should be wrapping,
but I can't. But I can't. But I can't wrap, mio.
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I do it in the shower, you know what I'm saying.
I'll do it in the shower in front of my
wife and stuff. You know what I'm saying in front
of the mirror, like I'm you know, it's like I'm
n w and them back in the day, you know, Hey,
depth chart debate running backs, running backs, So I'm gonna
I know you're a wilde receiver, but I'm sure you
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played Pop Warner and you ran the football and everybody
when they get the ball in their hands, there's some
type of a running back or runner at the time
and you and I ain't gonna lie to you they
I ain't never told you this, but you was one
of the best guys that I had to tackle running
the football. Dog you was, you was an animal on
playing the pre time. But anyway, what do you admire
most about the running back position? And then I'll give
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you my alright, let me let me get my brief history,
you know as running back. So when I first started
playing Pop Warner, I was tall, skinny, lanky, so it
was like d n tight end, you know, come off
the edge. And then I started to get a little
bit of speed. So right around fifth sixth grade, to
put me a receiver, play a little dB, little safety. Um,
so I was always you know that guy the receiver
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or the tight end or you know, the not really
glory glory position. You know. I wasn't a quarterback and
I wasn't running back. So my freshman year, we had
just moved to Renton in Washington, used to live here. Yeah, yeah,
so I was just owned for a school, high school
called Lindburgh. So I went to Lindburgh High School. And
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I'm not gonna say the talent was terrible, but it
wasn't as good as like inner city Seattle. So I
mean just keep I get there and I'm like I'm
looking around, you know. The first summer day that's transition
into high school. And they got the freshman football team
out there, and I'm thinking to myself, like, yo, I'm
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like legitimately the most talented guy here. And when I
was in Seattle where we originally lived, like, you know,
you're one talented kid in a group of a lot.
So it wasn't often that I was in that position.
So uh, I'm sitting there in the coaches like, hey,
he wants to play quarterback and I don't want to
play a quarterback. So you know, this tall lanky kid
named Adam mcgurky stuck his hand up and they were like,
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who wants to play running back? And nobody raised it
in First of all, I thought this was a weird
way of like asking black let's play. No. No, I
thought I thought that like you know, even in Pop
Warner they would put the kids out you practice, and
then the coaches would say, oh, here's this going here,
you're going there. You didn't do that. He just was
like who you want to play? And me I was like, yo,
I never played running back. This is my time to shine.
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Maybe I'm I'm the next and Mitt Smith? So what
did you what did you like about it? What did
you want to know, you gotta hear about my stone.
My bad. You must have got pumbled. Listen, you must
have got smashed Mike. First of all, we went, oh
intent right, oh yeah, y'all were terrible. We didn't score
touch down to the last game and I didn't score
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touch Then all I did we had pitch left, pitch right,
and I did nothing to speak. That's all I did.
I saw that on video games, and I just spin,
move your smack, spin, move your smack. After the season,
I was like, Dad, I don't think running back is
for me. He was like, yeah, you need to go
out there and catch them ball. So I said all
that to say this, I have the ultimate respect for
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the running back position, because if you can get the
rock and manipulate a defender who is coming at you
full speed, whether you run him over, running around him,
or shake them up, you're one of the top athletes
on the field on any given days. When I look
at complete running backs in the league, I'm looking at
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guys like Adrian Peterson, Lavan, Bill mars Sean when he
played uh you know, taking it further back. Uh you know,
Marshall Falk, who was one of the best ever to
be as specialists at the pastition. So um, that's that's
what I liked about the running back some of the
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more talented ones I've played with. You know, the short
lived career of job at best. He was a Blazer
who got drafted out of the cow and he had
the concussions in college and then he had a few
more in the league and that shut down his career.
But absolute speed, demon and could stop on a dime
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and had vision. So unfortunately, you know, concussions and and
that that whole um protocol kind of shut his career down.
But that's those are the guys that come to mind
when I think of game changing running backs. Snate like,
the crazy part about it is, man, when you're when
you're eight yards in the dot, on your eight yards
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in the backfield, and you get to see the entire defense.
I mean you're deeper than the quarterback. I mean you
get to see everything. You see the rotations, you see
the corners, you see leverage on the receiver, as you see,
you see gaps. It's like you see like okay, when
I start this zone to the right, Okay, this backside
lineback if he overruns and I can get this cut
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by my backside guard. Man, if I push it to
their feet, I know I'm gone. I know I'm gone.
If I gotta three technique, I gotta pop the clutch,
I gotta, I gotta. I got gotta slow down a
little bit because it's gonna wash by. I'm gonna get
I'm gonna get the back door. You know you're looking
at all of that. And when you get the ball.
When you get the ball as a runner, it's the
only position on the field that you get the ball
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behind the line of scrimmage, and all the leven defenders
are coming to get you. The corners are coming to
get you. To say, if he's a d lineman, the linebackers,
when I throw the ball out to a receiver, not always.
You know, some of these big fat linement ain't running
out there. It's a handful of guys. When I dropped
back as a quarterback, if I'm not a runner, it's
only the guys that are blitzing the quarterback, whether it's
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the four downs and a couple of blitzers, or it's
only those guys. Everybody else is doing other jobs. But
when a runner gets the ball, Nate, he's manipulating eleven guys,
oh and maybe ten nine or ten more who on
his team he's reading their helm was he's mine. So
you're talking about manipulating twenty guys when you get the football.
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Not to me, that's what's mind boggling about the running
back position and two guys. Obviously everybody knows I played
with Marshawn, but people forget I played with Frank. People
forget I backed up Frank for a few years before
I became as fullback. We challenged each other. Frank didn't
like me, so to say. When I first got there,
I didn't know what this league was about. I was
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one of those guys. I can answer every question in
the meeting because I played quarterback. I knew and all
the defense and stuff. But I couldn't. I couldn't manipulate
a defense with my eyes or have a feel for
the run game as to where Frank couldn't even explain
the cuts that he made. Just the backtrack, because you're
saying you would suck up to the coaches so you
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can get more plans. I won't sucking up, but I
knew that I knew the answer, like I can't help
it if I know the answers, Man, I gotta raise
my hand. You see what I'm saying. That's just the
way I am. Like. Is that dude who hang out
with the homies in school become test time he knows
all the answers. He actually studied, damn. And when you
sit by me, I'm guarding my stuff. I was out
party with you. You know what I'm saying, and I
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got man, I studied exactly. But anyway, Frank Man, he
couldn't even explain to you some of the cuts he
used to do. The vision you talked, And I've talked
to these guys, Clint Porters, Edgerman, James um Naja Davenport,
all these backs that used to come from the you,
uh my boy Peyton and Jared Payton, um Walterson. Talk
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to all these guys and all of them say, the
best back to ever put on the Miami New Jersey.
What's Frank the best vision ever? And they look at
Edge as the godfather bro? Like truth, Edge. You feel
what I'm saying. I played against Edge, party with it. Edge,
all of that man, good brother dude, real good dude.
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But Frank's vision, Bro, I've never seen in my life.
And then when you look at Marshawan and and one
of my best friends we still have talked to this,
talked about this today, Nate, Like, man, if you only
if you only had really new the professional part of
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this game early in your career, how much better you
would have been. I don't think we've truly seen the
best of Marshan. I don't think we've ever seen it.
Because what people don't realize that you look at some
of his college tape. He can go out in the
slot and beat youth as a receiver, I mean really
beat you. I've seen him beat the dude in a
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forty carryoake in dude running fat. You see what I'm saying,
like special athletes, Bro, you know you know who else
was talented that I felt mentioned and his career was
cut short, but due to different reasons. Ontario Smith, Ontario
was nice to. He went to Oregon. Yeah, I'm somebout
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to say. Yeah. He was drafted fourth round the same
year I was drafting all three by the Vikings, and
he was one of the most talented. That guy had
fifty five touchdowns not in his high school career. His
senior year. I remember we were all talking about our
own highlights and we were in training camp and we're
sitting there in the dorm and the vets was hazing us.
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I think we had eyebrows cut off, and we're just
kind of bonding as a wounded group of guys that
just gott you know, got the whole treatment, and we're
talking about high school kind of like, oh, man, we
missed those days, you know, when we didn't have to
go through the scolding. And so I started telling my
little highlights. A man, you know, we're running team. You know,
I had fourteen touchdowns, but you know I only caught uh,
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you know, a handful of boss you know that that
was the way we did it. And I was like, man,
what I had fifty five? I'm like, man, you have
fifty five touchdowns in your careers? Like not my senior year. No,
He's like, yeah, it's California record. I'm like, there's no way.
And then he pops in the highlight tape and literally
one of the best running backs I've ever seen, ever seen.
You know, I've seen some of it, only played a
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few years due to mistakes he's made. But Terence Terence
Phillips another guy. But let me actually real quick before
we moved on to the next beat. Best running backs
in the league today, that's running back or backs. You
know you want, you want one guy, I'm not I'm
not gonna be that guy and just give you one.
I'm one guy healthy Levy on Bill. He reminds me
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of a really unique combination of the running backs from yesteryear,
and I'm talking the bruisers, the old school bruis from
the eighties and early nineties. But he also has that
that unique skill set of the visual running backs of
the mid to late nineties, the Marshall falks and the
work dones, and then he has the patients of the
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new era running backs where he can sit there and
shuffle his feet with a hand on the back of
his lee blocker and then explode right off the shoulder
into a hole that I didn't even see as a
guy watching on TV. So his skill set is tremendous. Yeah,
I was six, great height and weight. I was second
Levian Bill, I would I would. I would say Levian
needs to work on running, want to run with more leverage.
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He's getting to him eight, He's getting to a point
in his career where guys are gonna take those shots
that's like, he's a really good back. I mean, he's
one of the best in the league. So he has
to start to protect himself. So you see what I'm saying,
running too higher on too low. When I stay running
with leverage, he needs to up again. He's a taller back,
so him running low is still gonna seem tall to
us because he's a taller back, you know what I mean.
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But it's all about just running behind your pass. He
does a great job of running behind his past, but
he takes too many hits because his hitting surface is
too big. If he would lower his hitting surface, which
means kind of I ain't gonna say, duck down, you
keep your head up, but you you you you you.
You kind of run with a little bit more similar
to how Adrian Peters runs. That's a AP runs high,
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but that's him. That's what he does, and he'll eat.
He'll eat a helmet to the chin like it ain't nothing.
That's just what he do. All I'm saying is to
help preserve Levan a little because he has gotten that
rep right now as a little bit of an injury
bug guy. But for me, I like it, Avian Belt.
I will put Ap right there with him. Um, but
Levian a little slight more because he can catch the
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ball a little bit better. But Todd Girle is gonna
separate from a lot Todd Gurley. I cannot wait to
see this kid with a quarterback. I cannot wait to
see this kid um without a knee brace again. I
knew his strength and conditioning coach down in Georgia. He
was his strength and condition to coach is my left
tackle in college. And the kid is special and he
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has long speed as a backage. That's what makes AP
guys like a p Marshawn. That's what makes those guys
special because they got long speed. Then they will beat
you up to get a blade of grass. You see
what I'm saying. They will beat you up and they
and they liked the contact. Tyur Gurley to me, could
be the best out of all of them. But TD
gotta be for TD. You gotta be word words Smith,
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stride up when the pop wrapped or make the art
fad away. Oh that's my favorite. Oh man, I love
us right here this one. I'll just ride. You're just riding.
Oh this is fire. That's where nods just drop some
(40:50):
knowledge on him. That's fire right, that's real fire. A man,
we got the next segment? Or no or no TV?
What you got for us this week? What's going on
fellas on today's or not? I gotta ask you guys.
You guys been watching the playoffs. I'm sure the Warriors
came back down to be one on that series. It's
(41:11):
a rematch Calves Warriors, So the Warrior of the Warriors
going to repeat or not? I'm gonna say or no.
I like the Calves and it's not because uh that
random dude dropped the F Steph Curry songs. Listen, there's
(41:32):
a there's a video. I'm I'm going off track. There's
a video of like NBA players dancing to their own music,
but they got that track over the top of it,
so it really looked like the vibe into that F
Steph Curry, F Steph Curry. And uh so there's a
meme that had Steph Curry looking at Westbrook where he's
like peeking at him and Westbrook is hunched over and
(41:52):
the little bubble was like, I've seen you in that
visit video dancing the F Steph Curry dance. Now, so anyways, listen,
I like Stephen Carry. I like what he's doing. I
love Clay Thompson. Um, you know, I'm I'm a huge
basketball nut. I just feel like with the rest these
Calves have had the confidence in which they have played
(42:13):
these playoffs. Um, and the health. Now they got Kevin
love Bath and you know it was last year was
the Splash Brothers and everybody was giving crap to the
Trash Brothers, which they kind of named Shumper and j R. Smith.
They've been playing well. Jr. Has been playing tremendous. He
plays great defense. Um, Shumper comes in off the bench,
(42:35):
plays well. Even Delavandover does his job. I like, I
like the Calves. That that's my squad, you know what
my hominge. As much as I hate to agree with you,
I agree you see how I just like it's like
a sole Patch kid. But anyway, Uh, I hate to
agree with you, but I think the Calves being healthy.
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I think Lebron is the most valuable player in the league.
I think, uh Steph is uh the most impressive player.
He had the most impressive season this year. But as
far as value, those has to be nowhere. But I
love Lebron, you know what I mean? As far as
basically in the Kevin Duran for she's saying, Lebron, you're
the real MVP. Yeah, but I tell you this never
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and we've been hearing it all playoffs. You can't ever
under underestimate the heart of a champion. And they've been there,
done that. Lebron is a champion, but nobody else than
that team really is, and that that locker room might
still smell like champagne. That's what I'm saying at TV.
Who you think? Who you guys? All I'll say is this.
We remember the Calves taking that two one serious lead
over the Warriors. Ever since that point, the Warriors have
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won five straight games against the Calves and pretty much
none of them have been close. I'm leading, I'm leading Warriors.
They wont seventy three for a reason, as we saw
when they're down three one. Yeah, and this is my thing.
If you leave space for them boys to come back
in the game, if you don't put your foot on
their throat early, they will come back. It's gonna happen.
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I guarantee we will see the most impressive collection of
games from Lebron James. He's been casually being the Magic
Johnson of this squad during these playoffs, getting everybody. He
is not as nature. Love him. It's not as nature. Man,
He's not going up against that. He didn't have that Kobe.
(44:23):
He didn't have to get it done. He didn't have
that Kobe. I agree, I think so, but he just
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That's where I come from. Mike, I'm about to stop.
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(02:12):
hey man, he better do something. Yeah, we're gonna cover
uh W man, y'all boys, Man, why y'all doing that?
I got stuff on my mind today, Mike, Hey man,
I got stuff on my mind today. Man. Let's go,
and we're gonna continue our our new segment, which is
Depth Chart Debates, and we're gonna talk running. Come on, man,
you know I got a lot for you. I know
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(02:55):
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there saying, you know, you saved the gorilla, which I'm
(03:19):
I'm I agree on that. You don't want to take
the gorilla's life, right, But if that was your kid
and your kid was over there and you saw that
kid kid getting drugs like that, I would have jumped
over and I would have said, you gotta do something. Yeah,
you gotta do something. Some people are saying, well, uh,
shocked the gorilla, taste them, but or wound them. Listen,
you wound a gorilla next to a base. That gorilla
(03:43):
is about to go bananas. Bananas. So, first of all,
just like you said, TV, why is your child so
close to the gorilla? Man? Like, why how did how
did the child? I have no idea. I don't even
know if I want to know, right, But I tell
you one thing, my kids won't be anywhere near when
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we go to the zoo. It's a cautionary till man. Yeah,
I tell you that one thing, and I'm learned. I'm
one of those I don't have to go through that
experience to have to learn from. I can watch other people.
I was watching Kevin Hart stand up and he was
talking about how gorilla slapped the glass. Yeah, it's like
to me, just escaped. That's about I'll be at the
(04:24):
little I don't know, the ferret exhibit, and things get
too close. I'm backing up. I'm listen, I am not
Jack Hannah. I'm not gonna be out here talking and
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I can hear some early early Will Smith when he
was the fresh Prince wrapping on that June, Like, hey
my boy, Brandon Browner b B back in the l
O B up in Seattle. He goes on Instagram, he
(05:33):
calls out the Saints. He calls him weak and I
can hear BB, but I can hear him already, calls
him weak. He says he took he said he He
says he took that few millions. Yes, part of the
part of one of the worst defenses to ever step
on the field. So in NFL history, he got paid
a few million dollars. Yeah, he did play with the team.
(05:56):
And now he's you know, going to Instagram social media
and calling him weak. But but I got it. I
got in his defense. I think it was just a
reaction to a fan. Fans are coming at him, coming
at him. It wasn't like he just went up there
just to post. It wasn't like he just went out
there to do that. Listen, I understand sometimes you feel
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like you gotta respond to the fans and and kind
of you know, defend decisions you make, our teams, you
played on them. But this is the wrong way to
go about it. I respect Brandon Brown, like I love
the way he plays. He's one of those dudes that
you always have to account for. Big, fast, strong, um.
You know, even at the age he's playing that now
(06:38):
he's gonna be effective, you know in the llob Back Reunited.
But you never first of all, you never bite one
of the hands that fed you and fed your family.
And it's almost in a sense that you're burning the bridge.
Like I know, maybe he doesn't have any top, But
what if he had some personal stuff, like really like
(07:00):
what if And again I'm just going about what we
see on TV. We saw him arguing with Dennis Allen,
the defensive coordinator, Right, what if it? What if it
was part of that anger comes from maybe a feel
of disrespect. I mean, we we've been there. We've been
there when we felt like coaches have disrespected us or
not put us in the right position to succeed. Not
I mean, I get that, but you don't when you
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say a team. When you say the Saints, you're talking
about a whole organization and everybody that's within it, you know,
And what if you know he's you know, a couple
of years down the line, he wants to getting the
coaching or say he's a free agent and they're looking again.
And and another reason I don't really like the statement
is because when you give the fans a reason to
(07:43):
think you're playing for just the money, it dilutes what
fans appreciate about us. They appreciate the fact that even
with a cloud of dollar signs hanging over everybody's head,
they can appreciate the fact that we do it because
we love it when you make it come in like, man,
I just took them a few million. I ran with it.
(08:04):
It's like, Bro, he was there to collect the check.
And we know guys that did that. Yeah, And that's
what I was about to say. I mean, there are
guys in this league that do it because they don't.
They don't say it is okay, right, but this is
my thing, this is my thing on the whole thing.
And again, b B, I would consider him a friend, right,
and I probably would have advised him not to say
(08:25):
this quite frankly. But let's say last year happened like this.
Let's say he made three million last year. There was
a few millions he said he stole. Right, Um, Let's
say this man was an all pro last year and
led the league in pis p bus all of that,
and really wanted to be paid fifteen sixteen millions, as
(08:48):
that's what top corners are paid. Right. Do you think
the team would renegotiate and give him his money? They're
gonna use him for with they needed to use him
for and and be all BB is saying is, hey, man,
I needed a job. They gave me a job, and
(09:08):
I took the millions that was there. I probably could
have went to I probably could have stayed in New
England or stay somewhere or went somewhere else, took less,
you see what I'm saying, and been more successful last year.
But I took a guy. I took a gamble, y'all
just like I took a gamble of me as I'm
just saying, I'm just playing Devil's advocate. I get that.
But his team's doing us all the time. But we
I'm just breaking down, like what he said, And for
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him to say Saints are weak, he was a Saint,
so essentially you're a weak two. I mean, the defense
was terrible. It's just like me knocking the Lions and being,
you know, being a guy that can look back and say, man,
they were garbage and I didn't like the city. Man,
the whole organization's wack. Lions are terrible. I would be
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talking about myself. So, you know, for him to make
that comment out thinking, like you said, it was just
more of him and the last back it was. I
think I think it was an emotional response. But again,
we live in a fishbowl. I can't do that. But
I tell I tell you one thing and this I'm
gonna digress a little bit. Sometimes fans like the wrongness
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of that, right because again I go back to a
couple of weeks ago, Mars Shawn came to my football,
my my dinner and all of that. He gave a speech, right,
I think we talked about it last week again he
cursed every other word, right, which was okay, that's him.
But the the like people had cameras that they loved
it because again they knew he was crazy. They wanted
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to see it and they got a chance to see it.
And it's almost one of those where some fans like, man,
you know, I respect them for that, but from talking
about BB now, I respect him for saying that because
if that's I want to know the realness about it.
If that's how he felt last year he took the money,
he took the money. I'll do what I'm saying. I
can dig that, Mike. But you I know, man, I'm
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just playing Devil's advocate a little bit. Man, But I
got to there's certain guys that you expect, expect realness from,
and he's one of them. So I'm okay with that. Now, Listen,
we we gotta talk about a couple of receivers. You know,
I knew you was gonna get in there. Listen, we
have to man. Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall reportedly stood
up for still unsigned Ryan Fitzpatrick. So the question is,
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before I give my my two cents, um, how do
you feel about this Mike, you know, because they're saying
that they didn't show up for O T A S,
which right now is what voluntary. But the coach said
one doesn't have to do with the other. The coach said,
we knew they weren't here is unrelated. But these are
your two starting wide receivers who have spoken highly of
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Ryan Fitzpatrick, so of course they want to see their
guy get paid and back in the uniform on the
field sooner than later. Do you think it's okay for
guys to take a stand like this when one of
their teammates Slash free Ends are going through it financial
dispute with the organism. First of all, they're back in
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the building today and Fitzpatrick isn't back on the building
and today's too say you know what I mean. So
if it was related to that, they still wouldn't be
in the building. Okay, Um, I tell cats all the time. Man,
those guys are under contract. Fitz He isn't right. So
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no matter how much support they want to give, no
matter what they think of the situation, they don't handle
the team's money. And at the end of the day,
if they want to continue to have their career going successfully,
they gotta show up and work. And the Jets understand that.
And again I I understand, you know, hey, you know
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I'm doing this from a quarterback. The quarterback, I get it, right.
But again, just like we said last week, Ryan Fitzpatrick
is going to have to make a decision, right do
I want to retire? Because if we get into the
season at a pro rated rate, he's not gonna get
the fifteen million he wants so now, and that's that's
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waiting for somebody to get hurt and then somebody signing you.
He's not gonna get that money. This is the most
money he's gonna get, and less somebody sustained sustains a
big injury before training camp, which the odds of that
had happened in a slim Okay, So that's where we're at.
The team knows that there's no market for him, okay,
and and and and the receivers if they, if they're smart,
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they better come on, get into practice and get with
the quarterback that's probably gonna be throwing them the ball
this year. Okay, because at the end of the day,
you better start thinking about, you know, so success this season. Reportedly,
they were saying that the contract was around twelve million
the first year, and I think an said this morning
fifteen million guarantees and then six million a year after that,
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so it drops significantly. Okay, So say fits continues to
trend upward and he has career numbers like he did
last year. But the man, I gotta stop right there.
You're talking about a cat in year thirteen or year
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twelfth thirteen, and you keep saying ascending like he's not like,
like he's gonna get that much better? Now, what if
he does? Come on, come on, system, come on, they
will show me then, guys they're surround, show me, then
him with but then showed me. Then take this deal
and then go back to the table next you show
me then, but you know they won't pay him if
he's if he how do you know that if he
comes back, if he comes back and say, look, okay,
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well my head, y'all, I'm gonna make this fIF team
million this year, okay, because I'm gonna hit all my
marks or whatever. I make this fIF team and that's
what I want, and then next year we can have
another problem. Why not do that? Then? If you if
you want to play, why not do this because you
just said, Mike, if you're under contract, you're obligated. Now
all of a sudden retired, He's a disgrunt or employee
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next year. If he knows, Man, I'm playing better than
half of the NFL quarterbacks, and all of a sudden,
I'm I'm making six million dollars over ask him to
give you one year, fully guarantee contract. That's what he should.
You know what I'm saying, and just better on yourself.
I mean again, if you okay, I need to be
making this type of money. And again I'm not saying
I'm I want fits to get paid what he thinks
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he's what he thinks he's worth. But I'm also a
guy that I'm about reality. If there were three or
four other teams out there chasing them, then you got
a point, man. Other teams are leverage. That's how this
game works. But you're still sitting out there, Bro, we're
o t s man. This is where your time and
get down. This is when you figure out little stuff
you want to do in the season. When you try
that double pass, when you try to reverse, when you
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try to throwbacks and all, this is when you do it.
I get that mighty but it's also volunteer. I understand
its volunteer. Bro, I understand his volunteer. But as you know,
there's more expected out of that position. And whether it's
volunteer or not, the quarterbacks gotta be there. You can
say what you want. The core the back of every
every team, all thirty two, all thirty two teams quarterback
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rooms are completely there during the voluntary part of the
off season. Let me ask you this. You're talking about
the organization, the Jets organization, having the most leverage in
this back and forth between him and Fitzpatrick, or Fitzpatrick
in the organization. But you know, like I know, you're
only as good as your backups, right, the question I
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have for you. You keep saying that if fits doesn't
make this happen, then Decker and Marshall will be catching
from whoever it is, Hackenburg, Geno Smith, who they got
the young they definitely don't want. Hey look like, hold
a hold on, hold up, Let's get to that question
about it for a second, though. I ain't mean to
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cut you out, so I think about it. What's up
if you got if you Geno, you're sitting up there
with the with the stink phace dog like cus. Y'all
keep trying to chase this man, giving them more money.
I'm sitting right here. I'm your god. I'm your god.
Did you draft the guy get rounded and you're giving
them reps? You dropped the guy last year. You're giving
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them reps. But that's that's no knock to Gino. But
yes it is. Yes, it is a knot to Gino.
I guess it is. But just play well. He's asked
some opportunities and he didn't play well. So the question is, sorry,
is fits out of the guys the list of guys
on that roster fits at home. The guys don't feel
right now? It fits clearly the best quarterback for this
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team right now. Yeah, now he is, but not for
sixteen million season, that's your answer. Okay, Now I can
think that if the price drops, Okay, yeah, he becomes
a lot more attractive, we can do something with him.
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But I know, I don't know to bow but I
played against to bowls. Okay, defensive ki defensive coaches say,
you know what I don't. You ain't gotta give me
a Just give me a guy that done turn the
ball over the hand the ball off can make the
simple throw can be manageable from the sideline. Let my defense,
special teams and run game win the ball game from me,
I could I love that world. That's what That's what
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Tar Bowls are saying. So if I, if I got
to develop a rookie, do it, do it. And you
know what this kind of reminds me. Um uh, what
happened when I actually I was on my way out
of San Francisco at the time. But when Crabtree, Michael
Crabtree I first signed and he was going through his
contract disputing things like that, and uh, it was a
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lot of questions as a weather how it would affect
the locker room. And my thing was at first, ain't
gonna affect the locker room now, And we don't know
this guy. He's a rookie, so we don't know how
to love him or like him or whatever what. But
what happened was when he did sign in the middle
of training camp, when he did come back and he
you know, was hurt, you know, hurt quote quotation marks hurt.
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Uh and he didn't playoff preseason and you know it
did start, it did start to rub the locker room
the wrong way. It's like, dude, Oh so you you
you stayed away to get your money, and in this
particular instance, he was a rookie, it hadn't done anything.
And then when you come back, you ain't even putting
up your load of the work. You see what I'm saying,
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And and and and pushing this back to Fitzpatrick again,
when he got paid in Buffalo, losing the next couple
of seasons after that, his history says, when you get
when you reward him for those his greatest seasons ever,
with your other quarterbacks just regular seasons, you know what
I mean, When you're paying a reward him for that.
But that's the market value, Mike. You have to pay
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a guy for what he's done. And then this lead,
it's whatever you done for me lately, and lately fits
is the guy for the job. I just hope he
gets on that roster because I feel like they're better
team with him. I agree with him, I agree with you,
they are all right now. Now, speaking of quarterbacks, let's
talk about pay Manning. You know, he's why you gotta
talk about Page. He has been in the news and
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he tired, tired drinking a beer right now, tired. He
better be chi. Yeah, chilling, really chilling. Well, let's talk
about what he was doing in two thousand twelve, getting
the size nine hat. He got a big smart but
I got a big hand, so I could talk about
another guy. Ye, No, I get um. So Peyton Manning.
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They said he was close to signing with the Titans
in two thousand twelve. What what that have been a
move that would have redefined what we know as the
great Peyton Manning? Uh? Two thousand twelves we were still playing. Yeah, yeah,
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I was in there. I went to the to the
division around lost to Atlanta that year. Um, I don't know, Um,
I don't know. I don't know if it would have
really hurt his legacy like that. I know he would
have Hey, neat it too. Probably have to play play
the Coats twice a year, you know what I'm saying,
because he has. I mean, that's that's the place Peyton built.
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Um who was the head coach of the time, mun checked,
Mike Monk checked. You know. Uh, I don't know. And
again I took a visit to Tennessee when I got
released the year we wanted Super Bowl in Seattle and
I got back. I don't know if that franchise at
that time in twelve was stable enough for Peyton Manning.
Peyton is a guy who the organization has to be stable.
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The Ducks have to be in a role, you know,
they have to be You don't have to treat every
situation with the urgency, you know what I mean. And
I just didn't get that sense from the Titans organization
when I took my visit. But they were losing franchise
at the time. He would have had Kenny Britt and
c Jo running back, Lavel Hawkins, receiver, Kendall Right a receiver.
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He would add some decent talent, some decent talent, but
they weren't. They weren't a threat to the NFL. No,
they weren't. But but I don't know, I look at
that team in relation to the rest of the a
f C. Because again, even when Peyton was playing with
it with the Coats, don't have a look at the division.
It was always in relation to the entire AFC. You
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always looked at New England, You always looked at teams
like that that he was gonna eventually play to get
to the super Bowl. That's what all all that matter.
And to me, he had a lot more. Um Uh,
he had a better supporting cast, he had a better
organization in Denver, being that John Elway had played in
all the all the things that he does in the
front office. It was better for Peyton. I don't see
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them being that strong in the playoffs if they would
have if he would have stayed with Tennessee. I just
that's just my opinion on that. Okay. Now that's basically
Peyton saying almost made this decision. The question I have
for you is, we're there moments in your career where
you could have went left instead of going right. Was
there a team that you could have signed with that? Oh? Man,
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I was a backup running back, fullback, uh, special team guy,
and Nate ain't had you know, my options? Want want
won't like that. A lot of trust me with a a
lot of a lot of interest in the NFC West
because they got a chance to see me. Right. Um,
but right after we won the Super Bowl and actually
I was getting myself prepared to continue doing this jet
to do this job, and I got a call from Pete.
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I remember my wife and now we were going to
the movies with the kids, and I got a call
from Pete and everybody was on the you know, everybody
the phone was on the on the loudspeaker in the car.
You know, my kids know, pe hey, coachah and they
say hi to him and he's like, Mike, you know,
we don't know how this thing is gonna shake up.
You know, stay ready, stay ready. And I'm like, well, coach,
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you know I can't sit here and wait on you
are you are you telling me that I'm probably gonna
be back, because if you are, I'm about to turn
this car round and go to the gym. You know
what I'm saying. But if you can't tell me that,
I gotta go with this. I gotta go with this
hot street gun riding. I gotta go with this workout
put in the transition already r And he was like,
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I can't guarantee nothing, Like I just can't. I said, well, coach,
I love you to death. Man, I'll be here when
you need me. Uh. Scott mccluhen um in Washington when
he first got the general manager job, he wanted to
wanted to see if I wanted to be the player
engagement guy there, and again, that's one of those types
of jobs where you can be around for a long time. Um,
I really thought about it. But you know what, men,
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it would have been no R and B if I didn't.
You know, I'm gonna listen for me. You know, my
first free agency experience was I was I was a
restricted free agent in Minnesota. Seattle put that tinder in
and um, they matched, they matched it, and they gave
me the big contract. And then that's from the whole
poison pill with Steve Hutchinson happened. Uh so I didn't
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really have a choice on where else I could have went. Now,
obviously I could have went back to Minnesota, but I
decided to go back Seattle, go back home. But then
after Seattle four years, four year contract, played it out,
made off on money and with it took five millions
and it was more than a few but I so,
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you know, I was sitting there thinking, you know, where
can I go? Um, Detroit Lions reached out and uh,
you know, I never consider going there, but Scott Linehan
was there and I wanted to wait because my agents said, look,
there's teams that need a god they needed they need
the legitimate number two. You had a couple of big years,
you almost had a thousand yards twice, but you had injuries.
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So in four years you put up some numbers so
you're respected. And he was talking about Pittsburgh. He's talking
about the Patriots. You should have went there, and he
was should have went to one. I'm just gonna you
should have went there. You know, it's crazy. So here's
it's crazy. Like I thought about those teams and they're
they're winning programs, organizations that every player wants to play for.
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But what got me excited wasn't a team that gave
a legitimate like push for me. It was an article
about a team that needed me in That article was
found in Dallas. I got this, Dallas got this. I
got le They were saying, this is the perfect guy
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for the job. He's a perfect number two, great leader. Um,
this is the guy you want. This is two thousen.
So I'm not sure who was there, but I was
geeked up. Mike, I'm talking about I sent the article
to my dad. I'm about to be a cowboy. You know.
They were on hard knocks and you know, t O
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was making T shirts and I'm thinking to myself, this
is gonna make me not a star on the helmet,
but just a star in general. You play for that
team and you win and you build your brand. It's perfect.
But they never actually took their shot. So for me,
it was just like college recruiting. The team that wanted
me the most. School they want me the most. That's
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where I went, and that's why I went in Detroit.
That's dope. Name a TV man. We got another beat man.
Let's transition. Oh uh, sounds like we should be wrapping,
but I can't. But I can't. But I can't wrap, mio.
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I do it in the shower, you know what I'm saying.
I'll do it in the shower in front of my
wife and stuff. You know what I'm saying in front
of the mirror, like I'm you know, it's like I'm
n w and them back in the day, you know, Hey,
depth chart debate running backs, running backs, So I'm gonna
I know you're a wilde receiver, but I'm sure you
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played Pop Warner and you ran the football and everybody
when they get the ball in their hands, there's some
type of a running back or runner at the time
and you and I ain't gonna lie to you they
I ain't never told you this, but you was one
of the best guys that I had to tackle running
the football. Dog you was, you was an animal on
playing the pre time. But anyway, what do you admire
most about the running back position? And then I'll give
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you my alright, let me let me get my brief history,
you know as running back. So when I first started
playing Pop Warner, I was tall, skinny, lanky, so it
was like d n tight end, you know, come off
the edge. And then I started to get a little
bit of speed. So right around fifth sixth grade, to
put me a receiver, play a little dB, little safety. Um,
so I was always you know that guy the receiver
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or the tight end or you know, the not really
glory glory position. You know. I wasn't a quarterback and
I wasn't running back. So my freshman year, we had
just moved to Renton in Washington, used to live here. Yeah, yeah,
so I was just owned for a school, high school
called Lindburgh. So I went to Lindburgh High School. And
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I'm not gonna say the talent was terrible, but it
wasn't as good as like inner city Seattle. So I
mean just keep I get there and I'm like I'm
looking around, you know. The first summer day that's transition
into high school. And they got the freshman football team
out there, and I'm thinking to myself, like, yo, I'm
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like legitimately the most talented guy here. And when I
was in Seattle where we originally lived, like, you know,
you're one talented kid in a group of a lot.
So it wasn't often that I was in that position.
So uh, I'm sitting there in the coaches like, hey,
he wants to play quarterback and I don't want to
play a quarterback. So you know, this tall lanky kid
named Adam mcgurky stuck his hand up and they were like,
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who wants to play running back? And nobody raised it
in First of all, I thought this was a weird
way of like asking black let's play. No. No, I
thought I thought that like you know, even in Pop
Warner they would put the kids out you practice, and
then the coaches would say, oh, here's this going here,
you're going there. You didn't do that. He just was
like who you want to play? And me I was like, yo,
I never played running back. This is my time to shine.
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Maybe I'm I'm the next and Mitt Smith? So what
did you what did you like about it? What did
you want to know, you gotta hear about my stone.
My bad. You must have got pumbled. Listen, you must
have got smashed Mike. First of all, we went, oh
intent right, oh yeah, y'all were terrible. We didn't score
touch down to the last game and I didn't score
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touch Then all I did we had pitch left, pitch right,
and I did nothing to speak. That's all I did.
I saw that on video games, and I just spin,
move your smack, spin, move your smack. After the season,
I was like, Dad, I don't think running back is
for me. He was like, yeah, you need to go
out there and catch them ball. So I said all
that to say this, I have the ultimate respect for
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the running back position, because if you can get the
rock and manipulate a defender who is coming at you
full speed, whether you run him over, running around him,
or shake them up, you're one of the top athletes
on the field on any given days. When I look
at complete running backs in the league, I'm looking at
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guys like Adrian Peterson, Lavan, Bill mars Sean when he
played uh you know, taking it further back. Uh you know,
Marshall Falk, who was one of the best ever to
be as specialists at the pastition. So um, that's that's
what I liked about the running back some of the
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more talented ones I've played with. You know, the short
lived career of job at best. He was a Blazer
who got drafted out of the cow and he had
the concussions in college and then he had a few
more in the league and that shut down his career.
But absolute speed, demon and could stop on a dime
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and had vision. So unfortunately, you know, concussions and and
that that whole um protocol kind of shut his career down.
But that's those are the guys that come to mind
when I think of game changing running backs. Snate like,
the crazy part about it is, man, when you're when
you're eight yards in the dot, on your eight yards
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in the backfield, and you get to see the entire defense.
I mean you're deeper than the quarterback. I mean you
get to see everything. You see the rotations, you see
the corners, you see leverage on the receiver, as you see,
you see gaps. It's like you see like okay, when
I start this zone to the right, Okay, this backside
lineback if he overruns and I can get this cut
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by my backside guard. Man, if I push it to
their feet, I know I'm gone. I know I'm gone.
If I gotta three technique, I gotta pop the clutch,
I gotta, I gotta. I got gotta slow down a
little bit because it's gonna wash by. I'm gonna get
I'm gonna get the back door. You know you're looking
at all of that. And when you get the ball.
When you get the ball as a runner, it's the
only position on the field that you get the ball
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behind the line of scrimmage, and all the leven defenders
are coming to get you. The corners are coming to
get you. To say, if he's a d lineman, the linebackers,
when I throw the ball out to a receiver, not always.
You know, some of these big fat linement ain't running
out there. It's a handful of guys. When I dropped
back as a quarterback, if I'm not a runner, it's
only the guys that are blitzing the quarterback, whether it's
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the four downs and a couple of blitzers, or it's
only those guys. Everybody else is doing other jobs. But
when a runner gets the ball, Nate, he's manipulating eleven guys,
oh and maybe ten nine or ten more who on
his team he's reading their helm was he's mine. So
you're talking about manipulating twenty guys when you get the football.
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Not to me, that's what's mind boggling about the running
back position and two guys. Obviously everybody knows I played
with Marshawn, but people forget I played with Frank. People
forget I backed up Frank for a few years before
I became as fullback. We challenged each other. Frank didn't
like me, so to say. When I first got there,
I didn't know what this league was about. I was
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one of those guys. I can answer every question in
the meeting because I played quarterback. I knew and all
the defense and stuff. But I couldn't. I couldn't manipulate
a defense with my eyes or have a feel for
the run game as to where Frank couldn't even explain
the cuts that he made. Just the backtrack, because you're
saying you would suck up to the coaches so you
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can get more plans. I won't sucking up, but I
knew that I knew the answer, like I can't help
it if I know the answers, Man, I gotta raise
my hand. You see what I'm saying. That's just the
way I am. Like. Is that dude who hang out
with the homies in school become test time he knows
all the answers. He actually studied, damn. And when you
sit by me, I'm guarding my stuff. I was out
party with you. You know what I'm saying, and I
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got man, I studied exactly. But anyway, Frank Man, he
couldn't even explain to you some of the cuts he
used to do. The vision you talked, And I've talked
to these guys, Clint Porters, Edgerman, James um Naja Davenport,
all these backs that used to come from the you,
uh my boy Peyton and Jared Payton, um Walterson. Talk
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to all these guys and all of them say, the
best back to ever put on the Miami New Jersey.
What's Frank the best vision ever? And they look at
Edge as the godfather bro? Like truth, Edge. You feel
what I'm saying. I played against Edge, party with it. Edge,
all of that man, good brother dude, real good dude.
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But Frank's vision, Bro, I've never seen in my life.
And then when you look at Marshawan and and one
of my best friends we still have talked to this,
talked about this today, Nate, Like, man, if you only
if you only had really new the professional part of
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this game early in your career, how much better you
would have been. I don't think we've truly seen the
best of Marshan. I don't think we've ever seen it.
Because what people don't realize that you look at some
of his college tape. He can go out in the
slot and beat youth as a receiver, I mean really
beat you. I've seen him beat the dude in a
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forty carryoake in dude running fat. You see what I'm saying,
like special athletes, Bro, you know you know who else
was talented that I felt mentioned and his career was
cut short, but due to different reasons. Ontario Smith, Ontario
was nice to. He went to Oregon. Yeah, I'm somebout
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to say. Yeah. He was drafted fourth round the same
year I was drafting all three by the Vikings, and
he was one of the most talented. That guy had
fifty five touchdowns not in his high school career. His
senior year. I remember we were all talking about our
own highlights and we were in training camp and we're
sitting there in the dorm and the vets was hazing us.
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I think we had eyebrows cut off, and we're just
kind of bonding as a wounded group of guys that
just gott you know, got the whole treatment, and we're
talking about high school kind of like, oh, man, we
missed those days, you know, when we didn't have to
go through the scolding. And so I started telling my
little highlights. A man, you know, we're running team. You know,
I had fourteen touchdowns, but you know I only caught uh,
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you know, a handful of boss you know that that
was the way we did it. And I was like, man,
what I had fifty five? I'm like, man, you have
fifty five touchdowns in your careers? Like not my senior year. No,
He's like, yeah, it's California record. I'm like, there's no way.
And then he pops in the highlight tape and literally
one of the best running backs I've ever seen, ever seen.
You know, I've seen some of it, only played a
(37:34):
few years due to mistakes he's made. But Terence Terence
Phillips another guy. But let me actually real quick before
we moved on to the next beat. Best running backs
in the league today, that's running back or backs. You
know you want, you want one guy, I'm not I'm
not gonna be that guy and just give you one.
I'm one guy healthy Levy on Bill. He reminds me
(38:00):
of a really unique combination of the running backs from yesteryear,
and I'm talking the bruisers, the old school bruis from
the eighties and early nineties. But he also has that
that unique skill set of the visual running backs of
the mid to late nineties, the Marshall falks and the
work dones, and then he has the patients of the
(38:24):
new era running backs where he can sit there and
shuffle his feet with a hand on the back of
his lee blocker and then explode right off the shoulder
into a hole that I didn't even see as a
guy watching on TV. So his skill set is tremendous. Yeah,
I was six, great height and weight. I was second
Levian Bill, I would I would. I would say Levian
needs to work on running, want to run with more leverage.
(38:45):
He's getting to him eight, He's getting to a point
in his career where guys are gonna take those shots
that's like, he's a really good back. I mean, he's
one of the best in the league. So he has
to start to protect himself. So you see what I'm saying,
running too higher on too low. When I stay running
with leverage, he needs to up again. He's a taller back,
so him running low is still gonna seem tall to
us because he's a taller back, you know what I mean.
(39:06):
But it's all about just running behind your pass. He
does a great job of running behind his past, but
he takes too many hits because his hitting surface is
too big. If he would lower his hitting surface, which
means kind of I ain't gonna say, duck down, you
keep your head up, but you you you you you.
You kind of run with a little bit more similar
to how Adrian Peters runs. That's a AP runs high,
(39:26):
but that's him. That's what he does, and he'll eat.
He'll eat a helmet to the chin like it ain't nothing.
That's just what he do. All I'm saying is to
help preserve Levan a little because he has gotten that
rep right now as a little bit of an injury
bug guy. But for me, I like it, Avian Belt.
I will put Ap right there with him. Um, but
Levian a little slight more because he can catch the
(39:47):
ball a little bit better. But Todd Girle is gonna
separate from a lot Todd Gurley. I cannot wait to
see this kid with a quarterback. I cannot wait to
see this kid um without a knee brace again. I
knew his strength and conditioning coach down in Georgia. He
was his strength and condition to coach is my left
tackle in college. And the kid is special and he
(40:09):
has long speed as a backage. That's what makes AP
guys like a p Marshawn. That's what makes those guys
special because they got long speed. Then they will beat
you up to get a blade of grass. You see
what I'm saying. They will beat you up and they
and they liked the contact. Tyur Gurley to me, could
be the best out of all of them. But TD
gotta be for TD. You gotta be word words Smith,
(40:30):
stride up when the pop wrapped or make the art
fad away. Oh that's my favorite. Oh man, I love
us right here this one. I'll just ride. You're just riding.
Oh this is fire. That's where nods just drop some
(40:50):
knowledge on him. That's fire right, that's real fire. A man,
we got the next segment? Or no or no TV?
What you got for us this week? What's going on
fellas on today's or not? I gotta ask you guys.
You guys been watching the playoffs. I'm sure the Warriors
came back down to be one on that series. It's
(41:11):
a rematch Calves Warriors, So the Warrior of the Warriors
going to repeat or not? I'm gonna say or no.
I like the Calves and it's not because uh that
random dude dropped the F Steph Curry songs. Listen, there's
(41:32):
a there's a video. I'm I'm going off track. There's
a video of like NBA players dancing to their own music,
but they got that track over the top of it,
so it really looked like the vibe into that F
Steph Curry, F Steph Curry. And uh so there's a
meme that had Steph Curry looking at Westbrook where he's
like peeking at him and Westbrook is hunched over and
(41:52):
the little bubble was like, I've seen you in that
visit video dancing the F Steph Curry dance. Now, so anyways, listen,
I like Stephen Carry. I like what he's doing. I
love Clay Thompson. Um, you know, I'm I'm a huge
basketball nut. I just feel like with the rest these
Calves have had the confidence in which they have played
(42:13):
these playoffs. Um, and the health. Now they got Kevin
love Bath and you know it was last year was
the Splash Brothers and everybody was giving crap to the
Trash Brothers, which they kind of named Shumper and j R. Smith.
They've been playing well. Jr. Has been playing tremendous. He
plays great defense. Um, Shumper comes in off the bench,
(42:35):
plays well. Even Delavandover does his job. I like, I
like the Calves. That that's my squad, you know what
my hominge. As much as I hate to agree with you,
I agree you see how I just like it's like
a sole Patch kid. But anyway, Uh, I hate to
agree with you, but I think the Calves being healthy.
(42:57):
I think Lebron is the most valuable player in the league.
I think, uh Steph is uh the most impressive player.
He had the most impressive season this year. But as
far as value, those has to be nowhere. But I
love Lebron, you know what I mean? As far as
basically in the Kevin Duran for she's saying, Lebron, you're
the real MVP. Yeah, but I tell you this never
(43:18):
and we've been hearing it all playoffs. You can't ever
under underestimate the heart of a champion. And they've been there,
done that. Lebron is a champion, but nobody else than
that team really is, and that that locker room might
still smell like champagne. That's what I'm saying at TV.
Who you think? Who you guys? All I'll say is this.
We remember the Calves taking that two one serious lead
over the Warriors. Ever since that point, the Warriors have
(43:39):
won five straight games against the Calves and pretty much
none of them have been close. I'm leading, I'm leading Warriors.
They wont seventy three for a reason, as we saw
when they're down three one. Yeah, and this is my thing.
If you leave space for them boys to come back
in the game, if you don't put your foot on
their throat early, they will come back. It's gonna happen.
(44:02):
I guarantee we will see the most impressive collection of
games from Lebron James. He's been casually being the Magic
Johnson of this squad during these playoffs, getting everybody. He
is not as nature. Love him. It's not as nature. Man,
He's not going up against that. He didn't have that Kobe.
(44:23):
He didn't have to get it done. He didn't have
that Kobe. I agree, I think so, but he just
didn't have that code. That's man, that's a rap. Hey listen, man,
you gotta spread the word about R and B. This
is what we do. Man, Hit us up hashtag r
A and D B Yo. Hit my man t D
on Twitter. Hit real Mike Rob here, Yeah, man, real
Mike Rob. Go to itunest. Because we want this show
(44:48):
to be a show, so they need to We need
to be on TV talking like this to educating you guys.
Shout out to Jalen and Jacobe on sp and they
do their thing. So we're gonna giving them. No shout out.
I'm gonna do that, but it's gonna they work for ESPN.
Make you better watch out. I'm just saying our show
is gonna be better. It is better get them. That's
(45:10):
what's up. Uh back next week? Oh yeah, we're back
next another round upon me. He thought I was gonna
wrap um, but I don't know nothing but the Chip,
That's where I come from. Mike, I'm about to stop.
(45:31):
You just gonna come on, man. I was about to man,
you know, but that ain't my style. Nasty
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