Ep. 16: RJVP series finale for a reason

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to episode sixteen of the Rosenthal and Jescelyn Nick
Vanity Project Project. They say all good things must come
to an end, Anthony, but say it ain't, so it's
all right to cry. Crying gets the sad out of you,
rain drops from your eyes, washing all the mad out
of you, and probably we are back for one more

(00:35):
go around in the podcast studio, Anthony, you said it
was kind of hard to recharge the batteries here after
last week, but you're here. Yeah. I wanted to quit
two weeks ago and you didn't let me, And now
I'm back and I regret it. It's the last episode. Um,
you know, now that I'm here, I'm happy to be here.
Are we drinking champagne in the studio? No, that wouldn't
be allowed, but I wanted to. Um, it's this is

(00:57):
the last one. It should be It should be fun.
We should let it all hang out. Yeah, I mean
you had you had certain rules that you had to say.
You know, you put some rules down if we were
gonna do the last show. I had some demands for
the last show. One of them because you know you,
it takes a long time to get here. Every week.
You insisted that i'd be the drive your driver today. Yeah,
you come pick me up and take me here and
drop me home afterwards, which was fun, which I did.

(01:19):
And uh, this is my I'm off on vacation this week,
so I made, you know, multiple people upset with me
showing up here today. My wife of course, because now
she has to watch our kids a little extra during
my vacation and my other podcast. It was not helped.
I'm not happy that it came in for this podcast,
but not their podcast. You do another podcast, Yes, I've
waited us. I mentioned it to you anytimes. We actually

(01:41):
did one at the super Bowl last week. That's why
we Uh we weren't on the show, but we did
do a best of show, which I will talk about
in a few minutes. But you know, we did my
other podcast at the Super Bowl. Watched the little Broncos
and the Panthers taking them out. Uh what a what
a weird game that was is but what a cool
week it was. I I enjoyed San Francisco very much.

(02:04):
I met up with some podcast listeners that we we
did a meet up for my other podcast, like an
official meet up, like how did you let people know
to meet up? We tweeted it out like a few
days in advance or the night before. We said where
to meet up, and then we tweeted out a couple
of times and a lot of people came. I would
guess maybe about fifty people. And did you enjoy it?
Like I I've gone on record, I do not like

(02:25):
meeting with fans. I would mean I can meet them
like one on one every now and again, but I
don't if there was a meet up where like people
went there to meet me, it was my worst nightmare,
especially if it's in a bar and everyone is drinking,
I would not like. It was a little intense. And
a friend of mine from high school, Kathleen, was there,
and she kind of like just saw that it was
intense initially and immediately just started, you know, putting shots
uh down my throat basically, and that was a good

(02:47):
move by her, just kind of loosened it up. It
was fun, but I was I was surprised and um
pleasantly surprised that so many of the most of the
listeners listened to both podcasts and they all wanted to
hear about our j VP. They all wanted to hear
about the Rosenthal and jessell Nick Vanity Project. Would you
say that more fans? There were more more people who

(03:07):
were there. We're interested in our j VP than in
the podcast you just started recently. Uh while that I
didn't start that recently. We've been doing that for three years.
And they called the Around the NFL podcast and it
changed names used to be Around the League. Inherently they
were going to be listeners of that podcast because they
would have had to been following us on Twitter really

(03:27):
for that for them to show up. But I was
amazed they at least to me, they didn't really want
to talk about it. They wanted to, uh talk about
the jessel Nick podcast. They had theories about what last
episode meant. They asked a lot of you know, a
lot of a lot of questions about jessel Nick. I
was spreading, you have an audience, these are the people
that you're potentially giving up on that if of course

(03:49):
the heartbroken Anthony. Of course I have an audience. I'm
a television star. I'm a star of stage and screen,
not podcasting. And the fact that r j VP doesn't
have their own Twitter accounts is one of the many
reasons that I'm leaving that I'm getting away as far
away as I can national football. We haven't. I'm not
I'm not looking at you. I'm looking at you a
commissary Brandon, I'm not. I'm not blaming you. That's not

(04:09):
your job. I'm sure there's someone at the at the
at the at the network really probably would have been Brandon. No,
I would have had to go through somebody actually to
get that proved. That's Brandon, our producer for the last time.
We introduced Brandon. Last time. Anyone induces Brandon. What are
you gonna do after this? Seppuku? Women's track and fields seppuku?

(04:30):
That was a joke for Gregg's wife. No one gets
that joke other than you know, the people at my
wedding who you um, we made fun of my my
wife's nationality. You know she was she grew up in
Orange County one to eight, but then a lot of
time in Japan. She's Japanese. Orange County in Japan. Yeah,
they have one there too. And you said that that
our marriage was really me during this speech, finishing off

(04:54):
my fetish, satisfying your fetish. Yes, that's the one part
of the speech that I remember. I may have been
drunk during that too, not just this podcast. Although I'm
not drinking in this pod. I would never know. I
would never drink, uh and podcast at the same time.
We Yeah, it was a cool experience. Though San Francisco
was a great location for a Super Bowl, I would
not I would recommended doing it highly. It was very

(05:14):
far you know, the game was very far away. That
was annoying how far away it was, But it was cool.
When what time do you have to get to the game,
since you were kind of working, at what time you
gotta be there? We got there and this is later
than usual. We got there at eleven for a three
thirty game, which it's like there's nothing to do. There's
really not that much to do for that whole time.
Maybe ten thirty we got there. Okay, sounds sounds fun.

(05:35):
I heard the people of San Francisco did not like
having the Super Bowl there. They were all kind of annoyed. Yeah,
they didn't seem to care that much. But that's why
I kind of liked it. It It was just part of
the city. You were just hanging out in San Francisco
for a week. And uh, the Panthers were like the
loosest team I've ever seen during a week. I guess
it didn't really help. Maybe they were maybe they were
a little too confident in the game was interet, you know,
it was intriguing, it was tense, it was surprising. I

(05:57):
don't know if it was a great game. It was not.
People don't listen to us for our football analysis though,
so I don't know. Oh they do, that's all they
listened to us for. Let's get into what was cut?
That was little Wayne. What was cut last week? This
is unprecedented, this is not since our first podcast have

(06:19):
we had an episode where nothing was cut last week.
I don't know if you heard the podcast. If you have,
If you haven't heard last week's podcast, hit pause right now,
go download episode fifteen and listen to it. If you
had listened to it, listen to it again, because you're
gonna miss a lot of inside jokes, a lot of
great stuff in last week's podcast. And I think the
fact that we brought in Goodell kind of help us
curate the best of our j VP. I think really

(06:41):
helped us out to think the Shadowy League figures couldn't
really edit anything, couldn't mess with anything, a lot of
a lot of offensive stuff, a lot of inside jokes,
a lot of outside jokes and our last week's podcast,
I told my mom not to listen to it. Made
sure I forgot to tell my brother and not listen
to what he called me and was it was upset,
was upset. We did get a lot of people. Brandon
was very upset. You know, it says the best of
our podcast, and I think it did. Chose choose all

(07:03):
the best moments for our podcast over the last fifteen weeks,
and Brandon was very anxious about it. He didn't think
it was gonna work. The first couple of responses on
Twitter were very negative. They were angry, and He's like, oh,
the people are hammering you already. First of all, I
didn't care. Second of all, I didn't think that would
hold true, and it didn't. I got more responses for
this podcast than anyone I've ever done. I think people

(07:25):
saw it as an experience. When they got through it,
or they listened to part of it, they had to
share it. You've got more responses than any r j
VP you've ever done, or any podcast. I think I've
got hundreds and hundreds of responses on this particular one.
People were you know, give give the name of the
other podcast to use. The people who listening to this
will maybe check that one out around the NFL podcast,
around the NFL podcast. Okay, it doesn't sound like it's

(07:45):
for me, it doesn't sound like it's it's it's my speed,
but people should check it out. One little of this
podcast is going away. I don't mind the competition. I
support you. You always say that you're my best friend, um,
and one of the reasons I often correct you and
just say we're you know we're friends. Is I support you,
uh in your endeavors. I've watched basically every show that
you've ever done. You know, I've listened to you on

(08:07):
various podcasts, maybe every single one. But if you hosted
a podcast for years, I would be aware of it,
I would listen to it. If I hosted a podcast
for years, I wouldn't be on those TV shows that
you watch. You understand, I've got things to do. Guys, Again,
I am slumming when I come here. But my favorite
thing about last week's episode that we're hearing the different
experiences that people had with it. Like I asked my

(08:28):
mom about it and she said, she said, oh, that
was really funny. I listened to about fifteen twenty minutes
of it. I was like, oh, you didn't get to
the did you. Did you skip ahead? She's like yeah,
but she didn't know that there was a sweet spot
in the middle. And then I asked my dad and
just totally normally, he just said, oh, yeah, I listened
to the whole thing. It was funny. It's like, what

(08:49):
you that's amazing. A lot of people said it was
our best ever, and I believe that it was like
your best ever. I've never listened to your other podcast,
but I believe that it was better than anything else
you've ever done. For me, it was just like a
walk in the park, you know what I mean. It
was just kind of like a like a lazy Sunday. Well.
Goodell was very proud of it, and I do think
it was. It was some of his best work. That's
why we don't have to take anything out of this.
I mean, I'll just quote Goodell here. He's called me up,

(09:09):
he said, Anthony, I just listened to episode fifteen. I
am hyped, is what he kept saying. I am hyped.
It was almost you know, some people at the meet up,
they really wanted to talk about it. They wanted to
keep the Rosenthal and Justin like Vanity Project VP, they
wanted to keep it going. Uh. And one of the
things I liked is they had different theories about what

(09:30):
last week's episode meant. It was like an X File situation.
What's going on, Whether it meant the show was over
or not, whether I don't I don't really remember. It
was a hazy It was a bit of a hating,
hazy night. But people had different ideas over Okay, what
did that mean? Were we giving a big you know,
middle finger to the NFL, My my friends at my coworkers, Uh,

(09:51):
some of whom listen you know, Mark Sessler for instance,
he listens to our um. The other guys don't as much.
But when they heard about it, they were like, oh,
you know this is you're really you're really going to
get in trouble this time. You know that, you know,
Jesse Nick is not going to be good for your
career at some point, because they was like when people
when they hear this, they are going to take it
down and you're you know, you've gone a step too far,

(10:13):
but people, but people love it. You know it when
it went up Wednesday night, and I'll say, someone move
on to headlines. I went to I went on Wednesday night,
and I was excited about it. I was like, let's
see what happens. I know Brandon was worried. Brandon was
a little scared like a little girl. Uh, and about
his job and about his about the job at all.
I thought it would be fine. It was just like,
people are gonna listen to forty seven minutes of pretty

(10:35):
much the same, the best of Justin mc vanity project. Uh. I.
I looked it up. When when it first came up,
I saw a couple of tweets, I went and looked
at it, so I was online. And then five minutes
later it was not on iTunes, and I thought the
league took it down immediately, and I was furious. I
was curious about like an hour. I was texting Greg
and then they put it back up and all was

(10:56):
right with the world. Let's get the headlines. But I
thank you to me right back, Lord into you for
how would give my life beg for? Just run? Like
yeah from San Francis and Chimpanzees. That was Little Wayne.
Someone who knows at the song length requirements the NFL

(11:21):
is given out. Why not it's the last episode we
can do whatever we want. What are they gonna do?
Fire me? That's a sports center by Little Wayne. Oh.
One of the reasons I love Little Wayne, big sports fan.
Who else is talking about Frank Gore? The inconvenient truth?
We're coming from the San Francisco super Bowl, one of
the greatest all time forty Niners. Shout out to Frank Gore,

(11:41):
Love Core. He's my guys. That's if that's gonna be
our last Little Wayne clip. We're only allowed to, you know,
commercial songs each each week. Suppose we're going we'll get
into that later on. I'll get another one of my
beaks with the NFL and they're so called rules. After this,
what's our first headline? Greg, Let's talk about Peyton Manning.
Let's talk about Peyton Manning. I'm not happy he won

(12:02):
the second Super Bowl of his career, and I was
afraid that he was going to retire right after the game,
which would have complicated my week. What were you gonna say?
I was like, why would you afraid of that? Because
I would have worked too extra Like we finished working.
We did another podcast at one thirty in the morning
after the Super Bowl. It might have been three in
the morning if he had retired, because it just would
have been a lot, a lot to get to. We

(12:24):
were somewhat prepared, but you stuff to right off of
what happens. Were not pre writing, you know, fifty articles
or whatever goes on. So he didn't retire, um, but
he did win his second Super but almost a little
apologetic about it, like he like he's enjoying the moment,
but he knows he's no longer what he once was.
He obviously didn't play well, and Von Miller and DeMarcus
Ware and Malik Jackson, those guys basically won the Super

(12:46):
Bowl for him on his own. But the thing that
was most noticeable about Manning was sort of how he
celebrated right after the Super Bowl ends. The first person
you see he's not He's not hugging his wife, he's
not kissing his little kids, he's not hugging his coach,
your teammates. He gets a big fat kiss from Papa John.

(13:06):
Peyton kisses Papa John. Why would you do that? You
don't have to kiss Papa John. I know he's got
a deal with Papa John. He's already done the commercials.
You've already sold all your dignity and thrown in Joe
Montana's dignity to Papa John, you just won the Super Bowl.
You can do anything you want. You can go out
to the fifty yard line, bend over and let the
annoyed edited because I felt like, I think, I can't

(13:29):
believe Payton didn't retire on the spot. He couldn't have
been lamer. He could not have been more lame at
the end of that game. When Jerome Bettis won Super
Bowl forty ten years ago to the day in Detroit,
he went out there and he said, this is it.
I'm giving it up. I won the Super Bowl. I
am retiring and it was awesome. But the best thing
you could have done. But clever plan words there said exactly.

(13:51):
I mean that's where he's from. He went home to
Detroit to retire. When Ray Lewis retired after the Ravens
one was the best way you could retire. Peyton blew it,
not only not only by not the town him by
kissing Papa John, who he did not have to kiss,
and then claiming he was gonna go home and drink
a bunch of Budweiser. No you're not, No, You're not
going to do that, and why would you say it?
It was lame. It's not even Disney World. It's I'm

(14:12):
gonna drink Budweiser and not retiring weak sauce. I have
a lot of things to say about shout out to
the noise. By the way, Yeah, well, so how many
people listening to know what the noise is? I bet
Brandon does not know what the noise is. You got
to avoid the noise. I'll tell you that right now.
You got to avoid the noise. You have to be
about thirty five year older to know what the noise is.
Annoid ruins pizzas, but it's a pizza reference. It's Domino's

(14:34):
pizza reference. There was once a guy whose last name
was Annoid, and he was so upseted Dominoes for their
their avoid the annoyed campaign that he got a gun
and he took people hostage at a Domino's pizza and
and and uh and it requested two pizzas. No, he
maybe corporate headquarters wanted them to stop using Really what
happens not in the commercials in real life. He took

(14:55):
people hostage and then demanded two pizzas and they stopped
using the noise. One of the pizzas and then gave
it up, gave up and went to Joe hashtag avoid
and annoyed. Um. Peyton could have done the done the
dirty with annoyed. Well, I'm sure in violation of his contract,
but why not. You just want the Super Bowl? Do
whatever you want, like it's our last show, this is
my super Bowl. I can do anything. Fly well, he owns.

(15:18):
It turns out Peyton Manny owns a couple bud Wiser
distilleries or something, so he owns you don't have to say,
you don't have to ruin your moments. But no one
even knew that because now you could look at this
where you and Peon many of something common. I like
where you're going that he was, I mean his nose
at the NFL, because you're not allowed to have an
alcohol sponsorship if you're a player in the NFL. Yeah,

(15:41):
none if your player, only if you are a team
or the league itself otherwise no, yeah, so or if
you're a fan of the game and you want to
drink as much beers. People were saying, you know that
was that that mentioned was worth millions and millions. Imagine
how much they're making off of us talking about it
right now. Oh my god, billions of dollars. He also
didn't show up to the team party, was reported by

(16:02):
Yahoo in a couple of places. This I support, this,
I supports I don't know if I bet a lot
of players did not show up to this party. The
team party for the Denver the world champion Denver Broncos
was at the Santa Clara Marriott, which I'm sure is
not a great hotel, much less the best Marriott in
the world. Why can't you guys get a better place.
Why can't you just party in the parking lot and
get it on. Why do you have to go to

(16:23):
the Marriott. I think Peyton was probably getting a room
somewhere with with Papa John, his wife and Papa John
and annoyed. Getting annoyed in there is gonna make it
a little crazy. I thought. People picking on Manning for
his postgame party activities it's a little match. I know.
I'm not picking on him. I think I know you're
not didn't go. I think that. I think it's cool
he didn't go. It's weird ther guy had to answer

(16:45):
to it at all. I I have read, you know,
I've seen this over the like if Tom Brady when
they win the Super Bowl, he'll kind of be at
the team party, could go through for a little bit,
but then he'll have sort of off room where it's
like the separate Tom Brady party where you know, where
the close friends Tom Brady come in. Yeah, you stop,
but you gotta stop in, you know what I mean.
Like I've I've had rap parties for shows, I've done,
movies I've done and that's the bowl. You drop in,

(17:07):
you say hello to the little people, to the crew,
you know. I mean, like I would have gone in
and be like, hey, what's up Brandon and taken off
and then gotten out of there. But you got you
gotta do that. But I think it's in the Broncos
for not having in a better place. If they had
had it at a Budweiser brewery that serves Papa John's,
than Peyton would have been there for sure. Santa Clara.
Santa Clara is very far from anywhere, So maybe there
was just a little tough logistically. I don't know what.

(17:28):
I don't know what the thought there was. Maybe they
didn't expect to win the Super Bowl. They were like
this Panthers team is great. They didn't have anything planned.
They just threw it together last minute, like the A
T n meet up that we did, the A T
NFL meetup, Uh, the one the one other thing that
I noticed post game with the Mannings was Eli Manning
and his reaction to the two point conversion or the

(17:49):
touchdown the Broncos scored that basically put the game away
for Denver. Of course, Von Miller gets the strip sack.
C J. Anderson scores a touchdown. At that moment, That's
when I just started put my head down and I
started writing, You're always kind of waiting for that moment
when the game is truly over and you can stop
paying attention and just start working. You don't have to
tell me, brother. And Eli Manning was you know. They

(18:11):
showed the Manning box when that moment happened, and all
the Mannings are going crazy. Olivia is hugging some sort
of grandson or nephew that's his mom, and Archie's happy
and everyone's happy, and Eli is just sitting there stone faced.
Now I saw this and not even still. He looks confused,
he looks a little upset. He looks like he just
ate a piece of Papa John's pizza. I saw that

(18:33):
at first, and I thought, this is ridiculous, because I've
seen Peyton's reaction when Eli won those two Super Bowls
against the Patriots, which made them great um and and
Eli and Peyton would be like a cheerleader. He would
be like a little girl, jumping up and down so excited.
Clearly afterwards they would interview him, and he was clearly
so happy for his brother. Maybe Eli's uh, Eli's being
weak Sauce Week saw us here. But then I thought

(18:54):
about the way that I watched Steeler games and I'm
on emotional lockdown until the w was in the books
that I kind of believe Eli's excuse, and I believe
that they are close and they do love each other
than root for each other. And I think that Eli
was just an emotional lockdown until that game was over.
What was his excuse? It was basically he was thinking
about what they needed to do next. He was like,
are they going to go for two? This game is

(19:15):
not over. They could still come back. He's an emotional lockdown,
which I understand, and I respect. I respect Eli more
than I respect Payton. Well, you if you were going
to be like one of the Manning brothers, it would
definitely be Eli. I mean he's on emotional lockdown all
the time, which is true of you two. Sure, unless
he's out drunk with his wife in public, that's fair.

(19:36):
I saw Eli Manning and his wife a few times
during the week NFL honors. They were at Eli Manning sneaky,
better looking than you would think, you know, tall, tall guy.
I think he's getting better with age. I mean, if
you can prepare him to to Peyton, of course he's
better looking. Peyton's you said the other side, pay And said, yeah,
I think he's better looking than Tom Brady Peyton, but
he's not a good looking guy. Payton's not Payton not
a handsome man. But if you can put with Tom Brady,

(19:57):
he's an adonist. This is reminding me of the other
or night you you know, I texted you about the
fifteenth episode of our The Rosenthal and Justin Lake Vanity Project,
and which now I'm beginning to think maybe that should
have been the finale, that that really was our mission statement.
But I'm glad we're back here now. And you know,
I was happy with the response a lot. I was

(20:21):
happy with the response, and I texted you, you know
how funny. You know how how people liked it, And
I was like, you did it, you did it again? Justly, Nick.
Do you remember what you responded? Uh? No, but I'm
sure it was great. You said something about I've been
carrying you since two thousand and eight. No two, it
said two thousand and eight. You screwed up the joke. Well,

(20:42):
two thousand eight is about when your career really started
to take off or so maybe so you were saying
you care me and and I was gonna and I
had a perfect response back, and for some reason, um
I was, I felt too nice, and I don't know,
I hesitated to send it back, and then I really
regretted not sending And now I feel like I I
should just say in my response was gonna be like

(21:02):
the Rosenthals make you human. That was gonna be my
response that we offer a lot to you. You know
that's kind of true. I'm glad instead of sending me
a pithy text that you've wasted five minutes of our
final podcast to talk about it. You know what, let's
this Peyton Manning thing is that anyone's talking about let's
let's reach out, let's take a phone call, let's have.
Let's take the Brandon, Let's take the fifth caller at
eight eight five five, five, five, five six or six

(21:27):
fifth caller. You're on the air with r J v P.
What do you think about this whole Peyton Manning situation? Oh?
You know, I do you know idea? What are the
chances that my god daughter Ellis would be the fifth
caller to r j VP. Ellis? Of course I have
the telescope you got me. It's beautiful. I keep it

(21:47):
as a centerpiece on my dining room table. What do
you think about this Peyton Manning situation? You think you
should have kissed Papa John's Do you think you should
have gone and celebrate with his teammates? What do you think?
You're that is right here. I'm right here, Alice. And
and it's great to hear you on the show. I knew,
I know you had some big opinions on the Peyton

(22:07):
Manny and the Broncos. You were excited for the Super Bowl?
Oh you bet you did. This is I mean a
little aggressive, little more aggressive than all her callers to be.
But I like what you're saying. I like where your
head's at. Ellis. Uh And what do you think about
next year with the Super Bowl. You think the Bronco
is gonna come back, you think Peyton's gonna come back?
A h what Roe our arrival Lorcas bron Balker's birthday?

(22:38):
Thank you. I could not be there. I was not
divided by your father. Um, but thank you for thank
you for doing that, and thank you for being our
fifth caller. We'll talk to you soon. Alice. All right,
I love you. I love you, Alice. Bye, good good
Uh insight, Yeah, that was great indirect shot by her
about you're not showing up to a little upset. I

(23:00):
didn't show up at her at her little brother's birthday. Um,
but I you know, I appreciate that she pays attention
to the game and kind of knows what's up and
and surprised that she knows how to use the phone
to call us. And I think, Brandon, great job. I'm
picking her as the fifth caller. It could have been anybody. Hey, listen,
I'm trying to step it up. It's the final episode
doing what I can. I know that was great mechanism.

(23:21):
Let me know what the exacts on the bassat Hey,
dog get must on your face is the place that
was your old Drew forty deuce his new one. Uh that,
of course. Uh. We we've played a lot of your
Old Drew throughout the season because the league mandated, uh,
we can only use two hip hop songs of our
choosing for a short amount of time, and then we

(23:41):
could use anything that gave us a permission. And your
Old Drew and I are boys. We are friends, as
we say in the biz, and he let us do
you do anything we want? Found out recently the league
thought that we were just thumbing our nose at them
and using as much hip hop as we wanted. It
didn't understand that the connection between me and Yould drews
We could have been playing Little Wayne all the way through.
But I'm glad we didn't. I'm glad we didn't because

(24:02):
year old Drew. I'm a I'm a new fan. I'm
a I bought his album. It's fantastic, It's great stuff.
Cam Newton was obviously in the news for what was
just about the worst game of his season. He had
a few in September that weren't great. I would say
his teammates were the bigger reason why they lost that
Super Bowl, but he didn't have a good game and
he didn't have a good post game. He left his

(24:25):
press conference just about three minutes into it was very
you know, down and cast didn't really answer questions. People
giving him grief for that. He again talked to the
media on Tuesday, tried to explain a couple of things
why he didn't necessarily go all out to get that
fumble in the late fourth quarter. And then he was
just saying that he was proud to be a sore loser.

(24:46):
That you don't want someone that can take losing well.
When you take take losing well, you are a loser.
So he's proud that he was a sword loser. Now.
Also a couple of things about this. First of all,
him not diving for that fumble. I believe him and
his teammates when they say that he was just waiting
to see where it's squirted out. He wanted to be
in position to get that fumble. I I kind of
appreciate that that sort of football mind. And I also
about him his suppress conference. Of course, you want a

(25:08):
leader to stand up there and taking the tough questions.
But when you have a guy like Cam who's so dynamic,
if you can't handle Cam at his worst, you don't
deserve him at his best. To get that guy who's
dancing and dabbing throughout the season, you're gonna get a
guy who's a store loosely end of the year. I
think that's okay. But I do think Greg that his
teammates aren't down. I don't think his teamate suported him percent.
I think in the locker room people a little upset
at the way he's kind of carried himself all year

(25:30):
and then to uh have that kind of game in
the super Bowl. It's kind of like a Don McNab situation.
You know, you're getting with your low voice and looking
at me very serious. There's a little bit of that.
Especially our interpid reporter Connor Or, who covered the Panthers
for last week. He he thought that, yeah, the teammates, certainly,
the offensive teammates are totally down with him. I think

(25:52):
there's probably some It's natural. You've got fifty guys. Not
everyone's gonna love each other. I mean people hated people
suppose did not like Dan Marina, they did not like
Joe Montana necessarily. I mean, when you're a big leader
and you're the main guy and you're getting all the attention.
They're maybe not gonna be down, So maybe they weren't
down with with how he handled the end. I think
you can say that he didn't handle that situation great

(26:17):
and say that it wasn't really his fault to lose
the super Bowl and that it's not a big deal,
and those all can be true. It's just what it
wasn't that true. I don't think it means you're necessarily,
uh like, piling on him to say it wasn't a
great moment for Marshall. Fox said on our air, Basically,
you know, he handled his first Super Bowl loss terribly,
and he thought he learned from it that he grew
up a little bit after the fact because he realized

(26:38):
he didn't handle it very well. Sure, but I think
you know when whenever anyone's mad after a game, you're
mad because you lost the game. You can have all
these different excuses of what you're really upset about, but
they're mad they if they had won that game. No
one's med at camp. Belichick is mono syllabic. He is
so annoyed everything in his life has been drained away,
and he wants everyone to die. And he makes it
very clear and he's, you know, the greatest coach of

(26:59):
his era. If not whatever I would say Mike Tomlin.
But uh but I kind of agree with you. I
I think a lot of the piling on of Cam
has to do with Brandon. Give me an echo. Racism, racism, racism, racism, racism, racist.
You know, let's take another college. Let's take the tenth color,
this time to eight five five five five five six
six oh tenth color? Is this Ellis again? What are

(27:23):
the chances? Ellis? Great to see you, my god daughter.
I love you. What do you think about Cam Newton?
Are you? Are you pro con? But I get you
and mommy a donut? I would be happy to get
you a Baker's. Doesn't that donuts and ice cream? I
would be happy to you. You're saying you on Anthony

(27:44):
because you know, Ellis that I picked up Anthony and
I brought him to work today. You're saying you on
Anthony to come over tonight with the doughnut. That's it
so outed like Emmaica there listening. Would you like that? Elie?
Maybe maybe I will. I've gotta show tonights, I've gotta
I've gotta perform. Stantem comed Ellis Ellis, what do you

(28:05):
think about the puppets I got you for Christmas? Wait,
you had a question for us else. Let's listen to
the question. Anthony. You gotta be a good host and
do that. Of course, house your house. I would love
to come. I want to come all the time. I
want to hang out with you as much as I can,
but your parents keep us apart by because by because

(28:34):
because Grabba here, Okay, you're gone, Grandpa are there, so
I can't hang out too long. I totally understand that
they're kind of like the Cam Newton of the household,
you know what I mean. They show up in the
big games, they're not always there in the Super Bowl?
Is that what you're saying, Ellis, Yes, exactly. So what
did you think about Cam Newton? Ellis? About about everything

(28:56):
that happened after the Super Bowl with Cam Newton and
him not talking to the me you and everything you
had a pizza and a salad party, Well, that sounds
like the opposite of what Cam Newton did. And I

(29:16):
think I understand exactly what you're saying, Alice, and I
love you for it. Thank you so much for for
being our tenth caller. Bye and bye bye. Ellis god
Alice the tenth caller again. I mean, does she do
anything but call in to radio shows and podcasts all
day long? I love it. I love that she's a
supporter of the show. Uh. And again, thank you everyone

(29:38):
who called in, But she was the tenth she gets
to do it. Greg, what's our hot take of the week. Well,
I'm tempted to give the hot take of the week
to Elis for that analogy she used between picking up
the donuts and Cam Newton's postgame reaction, But instead I'm
going to give it to Bill Romanowski, who sent a
tweet that got some notice about Cam Newton right after

(29:59):
the game, saying, you will never last in the NFL
with that attitude and the world doesn't revolve revolve around you, boy, unbelievable.
First of all, you'll never last in the NFL. He
will be a star. He was the MVP of the league. Uh.
He will be around for quite some time hopefully. Uh. Secondly,
do not use the word boy when talking to anyone

(30:19):
except your son. Even then it's pretty disrespectful. But Bill Romanowski,
a man who has famously dropped the N word in
the locker room to his teammates, many a time. I
should never be calling anyone boy. No, it's insane that
anyone pays attention to what this guy saying. He eventually
deleted the tweet, And of all people to be saying, oh,

(30:42):
here's the right and the wrong way to do things
in the NFL. This is a guy who you know,
he's been suspended, he's had all sorts of off field problems.
I don't even need to get into him, and and
it and it just proves what your point throughout the
year that that I think some of some criticism of
Kim Newton is before he before you say it, give
us the echo. It's about what Greg, It's about racisism,

(31:05):
racist racist racism. That was the hot take of the week,
with two especial shots. And they don't tell her how
many newspapers I read last several papers, and I'll read
them all twice. Resite him singing, that was Gerald Druke
when I brought up the idea of possibly bringing Ellis

(31:26):
into the studio just as an analyst. This week didn't
work with her snap schedule and everything. But when I
when I after that, my mom wanted to come in
to watch us, just to see us dancing in between
each segment, which which he's heard about people. And I
think it's the first time we've mentioned that we do
a little dance during these songs because we because we
bring the fire, we gotta dance. Uh, No one will
ever see no one ever seen him in what Brandon tries.

(31:48):
I have a real question, though, are we gonna be
able to get me unblocked before you leave for the Oh? Yeah,
you know what if you if you pull up a
laptop and you Brandon I blocked. I blocked him on
Twitter because he put a clip of me dancing and
I couldn't have that. Can I do that later? Yes,
I will unblock you. I just keep forgetting, but I would.
I would happily unblock you. Can I put up a
clip of you guys dancing? No, okay, now you cannot

(32:08):
I have I have a fan club that would jump
all over that. Uh, and I cannot have that out
in the world. Nobody dancing in Cleveland this week, Johnny Manziel,
this story just keeps getting worse and worse. I don't
even know where to start. His father made these quotes
that said, if if they can't help turn Johnny Manziel's

(32:29):
life around. He's worried that Johnny is going to be
dead soon. Basically that those are the sort of problems
that he has that he's suicidal. I first of all,
wasn't sure who they are. It's his it's Johnny Manziel's father.
You would think he would be you know, part of that.
They trying to help Johnny Manzel turn his life around. Um,
there was a report from our Michael Silver that when

(32:49):
the brown said he was in the concussion protocol, he
was actually just drunk and showed up to practice drunk. Uh.
Hugh Jackson, the coach of the team, basically says that
the Browns want to help. It's more than football. He
wants to save Johnny Manzel. They want to help Johnny
Manzel turn his life around. But it's dark times in
Johnny Manzel town right now. Yeah, this is this is
a tough one. And if this is true, if it's

(33:11):
true that you should have refracted drunk and they blamed
out a concussion, it's the Browns because Brett Farve should
have repracticed like every week drunk and people thought it
was great. That was like a funny story they told
after he retired hockey players do this every single day,
all right? Is it not true that I'm drunk right now? No,
it is not. That was a test, but the Browns
covered up. That's reprehensible. If Manzel killed his girlfriend and

(33:32):
himself like he had been quoted to do, edited because
it's our last show and I think it's hilarious though,
if there's a funny part of this at all, this
man needs help. But I like that the serious part
is that he threatened to kill his girlfriend and himself.
Because if he just threatened to kill his girlfriend edited
because I don't want you guys to laugh that much.
This girl sounds awful, like it almost sounds like if

(33:55):
he didn't have the girlfriend, he wouldn't have any of
these problems. She sounds like a terrible person. She sounds
like she sucks. And I think it's funny that the
part that he was like a you're gonna kill your
girlfriend edited because we bawled too hard. You know what,
Let's uh, let's find out, let's find out what the
people think. I feel like Greg wasn't really into my
reaction to know I was into it. I just knew

(34:16):
it was it would all be cut it seemed a
little really probably you don't think so. I also know,
well there was a report that the Browns way back
in the day wanted him to break up with the girl,
as if, of course we talked about it doesn't feel
like a positive thing to be, you know, in this
sort of situation, domestic violence, whatnot like blaming you know,
the victim, I mean the baby. I don't know. I mean,
Mandela is wrong to have to have struck her to

(34:37):
do anything, but she sounds like bad news. She sounds
terrible and no one has said anything positive about this woman. Ever.
Let's take a call, you know, let's take the Brandon.
Let's take the one collar five five five five five
six six Hello, one collar? What do you think about
this Johnny Manzel situation? Has he gone too far? If
the Browns dropped the ball? What ellis? What do you

(35:02):
have to what do you have to tell us? Ah?
I know you're speechless. I think a lot of people
are when they hear about something like this. It's tough.
The league is a tough place to play, much like
you play every day in your backyard with the toys
that I bought you. Right, ah m, what do you

(35:23):
think of the puppets that I got you for Christmas?
Have you been using those? Have you been playing with them?
Doing your toy box? Well, that's a great place to
have them. Do use the TP that I've gotten. You've
been hanging on the t P h what what do you?
What do you want to say about Johnny Manzel and football?
Alice is? Do you like football? Is it your favorite sport?

(35:49):
You know what? You go ahead and go, Pepe, thank
you for joining us, Thank you for being the hundreth caller.
I know you had to wait on hold for a
little while, but we really appreciate it. You go ahead
and use the bathroom as much as you want. I
don't mind. But by sweetie, I'll see it. I'll see
you soon. Oh that was great one. Ellis, What are
the chances Brandon that she'd be calling number five, calling

(36:11):
number tend and calling number one hundred. I don't know
what the actual chances are, but I know that it's
very improbable. And you know what, I see the phone
lines are still lightening up. Just get rid of all
those people. We're not gonna take any more calls. But
but again, Ellis, uh, Greg, you've really raised a great,
a great god daughter from me, which is pretty much
how I think of her. Um, let's take our next headline.

(36:41):
That was that was Roger Goodell playing a sad playing
a sad song, playing playing a violin, a tiny violin,
for how sad he is that r j VP is
going away. This is our last episode. I picture like
me listening to that song while I look at your corpse,
Greg taking care of your face. Why would I be
dead because the show is dead? You have no reason
to live anymore. This really came up in conversation on

(37:02):
Monday night. I was at my friend Evan's house, so
you know, you know Evan in San Francisco, and uh,
you know, I mentioned how you're the god godfather and
they were like, yeah, but if if you guys die,
like Anthony wouldn't take care of the kids? Would he like?
We like we would, we'd helped, like they were trying
to encroach on they're like, you know, they figured their
parents or they could help take care of the kids.

(37:23):
That was like, actually, you'd be surprised. I think Anthony.
I don't know if he'd be there all day every day,
but I think he'd find a way to take care
of them. I would be. I would be there to
take care of him at least once a week if
you guys died. I know I would, I would look
into it. I'm one of my friends, my my writing
partner in the show I'm working on. He's god find
into a couple of different kids, and one of them
he signed paperwork that if something happens to the parents
like he is, he's in charge. Would you guys have

(37:45):
not had me do, but I would take anyone to court.
I would. I would take him to the blood bank,
senator if anyone tried to take those kids away from me.
Once you guys die, Yeah, no, I think it's assumed.
Maybe maybe we'll have to put it, you know in
writing one day that that Anthony, I mean, you could
take care of them, you can. I would be great,
I would be I've got the money to do it.
Do you know what I mean. That's what I'm saying.
I can. I can handle this, so halfway through it

(38:06):
on my back, put it on my back like crucifix.
We hope this doesn't happen. I mean, you sound a
little too excited about the concept of Emmcha and I
both dine together. I mean, even if it's not together.
Even if it's like separately, you know what I mean,
Like then I would still be on board. So if
I died, you just move, move into the house, perhaps
at least nearby, edited to keep your interest. Another sad

(38:42):
song that was Roger Goodell when he tried to score, uh,
the Incredible Hulk TV show when the Hulk was kind
of walking away hitchhiking. Goodell gave it a shot and
you got rejected. That's why he's now the commission as
opposed to scoring television shows from the seventies and eighties.
But it was a good it was a good song
and again appropriate the Brandon which whoose that since their
last show? And it's a sad time, a little bit

(39:02):
of a bummer And uh, I think when I think
of cold Play songs, they're a little bit of a bummer.
You know, they're there, wrote them a little well that
they exist at all. That there. It's melancholy, you know,
you know, there's some hope normally, but some of them
are just sad, you know, sad love songs. They were
the NFL's halftime show a little underwhelming for a lot

(39:23):
of people. Basically I didn't really you know, I didn't
really pay attention. Did you watch it? I didn't. I
watched the whole game, but I halftime, I walk away,
like I went and took a walk with a friend
of mine, just like got out of the house for
a little bit, and I was at a super Bowl party,
so I got out and walked around and then came
back right as it was ending. I did not care
about any of it. I I do that. I do
a similar routine. I'm at the game each year and

(39:45):
it's an intense first half. Maybe we're just finishing up
work for five minutes right after the half end, and
then I go take a walk, which I always feel
a little bit like a jerk uh doing. I don't
feel like like everyone else gets really excited and there
they start going outside to get a better seat to
why the half time show. But usually just take a walk,
kind of collect my thoughts, get some exercise, you know,
think about the game. But people, people were not excited

(40:07):
about the cold play portion of so much. They were
excited when Beyonce and and uh Bruno mars around. Yeah,
Beyonce and Bruno mores are made for the Super Bowl.
Cold play should never be allowed anywhere near it like
put them on it, like the pregame. You know what
I mean if like if someone died who played football,
and you would do like an immemorial segment, in memorium segment,
then you get cold played to play over that. You
don't want them at halftime they do. They even play

(40:28):
songs that would pump you up, would make you excited.
I mean, they played their ver you know, they played
their songs that would be most likely to do do that.
I didn't recognize a couple of them. Yeah, I know
you were upset. You saw some negative reaction to Uh. Yeah,
I didn't want I didn't watch Beyonce. I'm Beyonce fan
in general, Like I don't know her music. I don't
listen to that kind of music, but I like her

(40:49):
and I like that she used as a platform to
you know, talk about, uh, talk about black lives matter,
and to kind of do like the Black Panther kind
of thing because it points out, give me echo Brandon, racism, racism, racism, racism.
Then when people get upset about it, they are showing
their true colors. Rudy Giuliani saying that it's like, oh,

(41:10):
Middle America watches this, you know, what's in the middle
of America? Uh St Louis. You know it's in the
middle of America. Missouri, you know what's in the middle
of America? Ferguson. They appreciate that, they want to see it.
She's a black artist doing black artist things in the
Super Bowl. That's awesome. I think it's great, and anyone
who's against it sucks. Even though I've never bought a
Beyonce song or could name one of them. I think

(41:31):
she's awesome and I hope the NFL does more stuff
like this where a lot of people do political statements
as opposed to cold play. That was Roger Goodell playing
multiple instruments at the same time, hands and feet. You

(41:55):
would think it's hard to run a bow across strings
of a violin or cella with your feet, and it is.
It's almost impossible. It's only been done by one man,
and that man is Roger the God good Doll. Lisan
McCoy in the news this week, not for a reason
that he'd want to be got into. You don't know
that a fight in a bar and you know, at

(42:17):
being two thousand and sixteen, it got caught on phones
on video and it turns out the people that he's
alleged to be in a fight with that he you know,
it's not confirmed that he was there, that they were
under they were playing close coop cops undergover cops basically,
And there is some reporting that you know, he might

(42:38):
you know, arrest warrant might come and and it just
got me thinking a little bit about any any fight
situations that maybe Anthony Jesselyns ever been. I love this story. Um,
he took on he took out two off duty cops
in a bar brawl. The quote from the cops are
they got That's what they said. I know we're gonna
bleep it, but that's what they said. What was their

(43:00):
drugs quote? So he did some damage. And that's why
you never get into a bar fight in Philly. Nine
out of ten bargoers are playing clothes police. Didn't you
remember bar fights in New Orleans? Like, we never got
into fights in New Orleans? You actually did you get
knocked out in New Orleans? I never was knocked out.
You were carrying home someone who got knocked out. I
did arrest. I did spend the night in Orleans Paris prison.

(43:21):
I don't know if I should be telling this story,
but uh yeah, there was a it was noble you did.
It wasn't a bad cause. There was a there was
a fraternity fight as a fracast. You were helping. You
were helping a friend who got knocked out. I was
walking a block and a half away from where there
had been a fight at that point with Greg Safinski
over my shoulder, you know, a bigger guy, not that
not a big big guy, but he ended up joining them,

(43:43):
bigger than you know, much bigger than me. And we're
walking just kind of stumblings. All of a sudden, I
hear a voice behind me and it's just like where
do you think you're going? And it was like the cops,
the cops, you know, and they just they just put
us in the car. And the worst thing was then
they went back to where this fight as and they
were just like, all right, pick three of them just

(44:03):
to even it out, because it was me, Sefinski, and
our friend Pete Gardner, and they were just like they
had to pick three of those guys, like it's it
really is terrible to be those three guys who just
had to take the bullet and go to jail to
make it. Eave, I didn't know you had to do that.
I mean I didn't have to do it. I didn't
pick It was they. They asked that group. They asked
that group basically you guys, okay, okay, that's that's right.

(44:24):
And then Sefinski got to go home because he was
concussed something like yeah, you and just you and Pete
had to go to jail. I spent a couple of
nights in jail in New Orleans, nonconsecutive, um for different things.
Never a fight, though, But I always loved bar fights
in New Orleans because people would star at them all
the time. People were drinking until all hours. There'd be
two guys from out of town bump into each other
start a fight. Every single bouncer in the bar would

(44:46):
love it. They would jump over the bar, beat the
hell out of both guys. Then both guys would go
to jail, and the cops would be vicious to them
the whole time they were in jail because they love
these bounces so much. Like cops would drink for free
and all of these bars, so they would do anything
that the bound Susan bartenders wanted. It was it was great.
Do you remember our friend Steve Mercado, who got arrested
outside of the bar. He worked at a bunch of

(45:07):
friends and the next day and they were like the
cops work for us, who who sent you to jail?
All you had to say was I work here, and
they would he would find when he spent he spent
twelve hours in prison. I mean, there there were too
many fights in in New Orleans general. Plus you're in
college and you can just stay out all late. I
mean I was never, shockingly never in the middle of
any of these. But it was always annoying when someone

(45:28):
you knew or vaguely knew would be involved because you
I think you were there something, you were of the
same mind you you would kind of have to be there,
you and maybe even possibly get a little more in
the middle of it, but you'd have to be there
and kind of watch it, but also make sure, at
least from my perspective, that I'm staying way on the
outskirts and I do not get involved whatsoever. Yeah, I
was a guy that everybody wanted to fight, but I
avoided fights like the plague in college. But people always

(45:50):
wanted to beat me up because I of my mouth
and I was taller than you, like you were a
guy that people didn't really pick on. Um, but I
I definitely uh, I definitely uh inspired and yeah and
several other whereas. Now people just now I'm huge and
people just want to take me out. I mean I
almost punched you right now, which is while we're talking
about it, another sad one from the Goodell Symphony, the

(46:22):
Goodell Symphony Orchestra. They are incredible, and I'm starting to
get a little sad, a little melancholy. Maybe this isn't
my last show, but it definitely is. Uh. Now it's
time for the NFL's favorite r j VP segment, Who's
had sex? Oh yeah? Keep to leave after claiming he

(46:43):
was proud his children got to see him try to
tear a man's head off with a vicious face mask
penalty falling during an NFL networking interview being watched by
dozens of fans, turned to his wife and said the following,
you're looking gorgeous, baby. We're gonna get it in tonight.
And you know what that means. They most likely had
sex later on that night if he didn't get too drunk.

(47:12):
Sit back ruck, sit back, sit back ruck, sit back.
That should have been longer. Let's take at the recommendation station.
Greg's our last one. What are you gonna recommend? I'm
gonna recommend. Uh. You know anyone really listened to all

(47:35):
that who's had sex segments? Because that is Anthony jessely
Next favorite favorite. It's his favorite thing that he's done
on this entire show. No, I will, I'll make some recommendations.
Mistress America have not recommended that on this show. No
a Bombax movie from a year ago, from about six
months ago, that kind of slipped under the radar. If
you like No Bomback at all, this is my favorite

(47:57):
Noah Bomback Movi. Really I love No Bomback for first
of all, I think he's kind of a genius. But
I like it more than Francis ha I like it
more than Greenberg, which is great. And it kind of
just fell I don't know why it just slipped like
I was shocked that to me, it should have won Oscars.
It was awesome. It's been very divisive. People have either
loved it or hated I. I enjoyed No A Bombach,
No No a bomb Back, not all of them, but
I have liked I loved Francis haw I like a

(48:19):
bunch of mine need to see this. You gotta see it.
Good recommendation. I will. I will send a book too.
I know people hate that's insane, like if like they thought,
you know, if you don't like knowing Bob back, you
think it's this sort of cloistered world. Whatever. I get
why he annoys some people, like he's almost trying to
be a little annoying. But it's awesome. I I couldn't
recommend it higher. By the way, whoever sent the database

(48:40):
of all of our recommendations out on Twitter, send it
to me again, because I can't find that tweet and
people have been asking and I was impressed that that
you did this. So send it back to me on Twitter,
and you can add this one final book and Karin,
and then I know I'm going back to the classics.
But I just I feel like someone needs to tell
the tell the kids. It's a page turner. People mentioned

(49:02):
old Russian novels like they're the hardest thing to read.
It is easy to read. It is a page turner.
It's got everything you could possibly want in a book.
Maybe the greatest book of all time. You and a
colonel in a Dustjevski correct the best, Uh, that is.
That is a good one. I have not read it.
I have several copies my It's my one of my
dad's favorite books. I've always meant to read it and
get the get the Pashier and vulcan Ski translation. I'm

(49:24):
even give it translation. Is that the newest one? That is?
I believe it's the probably the newest one, but it's
it's the one to go with because I have read
Crime and Punishment. I have read one piece, but I
have not read in a Crena enough, but I would
check that out. I've got two. I've got a um,
I've got a TV show and a comedy album. My
TV show was American Crime Story The People versus O. J.
Simpson on FX. It's only two episodes deep as of
this podcast. It is incredible. It is unbelievable. I love it.

(49:48):
I don't fink anyone who's seen A. Brandon has seen it.
Brandon's a fan. Uh. It's unbelieving. We were both kids
watching that. We didn't get the full story. Getting to
see it now was incredible and the performances are great.
And the comedy album, my good friend Emily Heller was
open for me on the road has a comedy album
out from Kill rock Stars called Good for Her. It
is an excellent album. She's a very funny person. Uh

(50:10):
you should check it out. I'm wearing a T shirt
right now that with her face on it. So check
out that comedy album, and check out that TV show.
Check out that book, and check out that movie. That
was recommendation station for the final time that was That

(50:33):
was Brandon tuning your guitar. That was another sad when
I was Brandon to pick sad music, so somber. I
look at this as a celebration. It should have been
looking back now, I should have had him pick like
like Peppie music, you know, I mean, we played that
one song over and over again. But but this is okay.
I bet we got a surprise coming. You always have
a surprise for me. I bet there's something coming up.
Don't ruin it. Our listener of the Week g rc s.

(50:57):
You know, I know the show's ending for now. You
got come join me, listeners and pressure Anthony and pressure
the NFL to bring us back for a season two
next season something like that. But uh so you can
still leave reviews, is what I'm saying, because some people
might find this in a couple of months. A lot
of the people that came up to me said, oh yeah,
it took me a while, but then I just cranked

(51:17):
right through it. GRC simply the best. If you gave
this podcast fewer than five stars, you must have your
head censored for being accurate. Touched Episode fifteen probably the
best podcast I've heard. It combines all the best of
the previous episodes into a montage which will be a
first ballot entry into the podcast Hall of Fame. Touched.

(51:42):
I feel like these guys are friends, best friends. Please
NFL don't cancel the Rosenthal and justcen Nick Vanity projectp
Whatever Anthony wants, give it to him. If he wants
Mr Goodell to censor, to keep Grigg's job, make it
happen that ship sailed. Oh there are things that could
have done and it didn't do them. And now we're
here where we are and you can't turn back time.

(52:04):
There's no time machine at the NFL network. There's not
a lot of things at the NFL network. There's no
jess Nick at the NFL network. Another one that I
like just said it just said, our j VP has
helped to find their life. They were looking for a
voice listening to this podcast. That was just insane. That

(52:31):
was Roger Goodell watching the movie The Godfather and just
tooling around with musical instruments. Pretty good stuff. Ask Anthony
this week where I appreciate everyone tweeting at us as
Anthony looks at me like he regrets us drinking, well,
not drinking champagne during this entire podcast, because that's not

(52:54):
what we're doing. Um. One of our listeners asked about
a great Marty Grass story and that you didn't want
to do that because your mom listens to the podcast
and all the Marty Grass stories are just just a
little too much. So instead of how about a great
New Orleans you know night story from us at college?
And that was from Maria de Aria. People have been

(53:15):
asking we we mentioned that the tattoos we got uh
in college. And I'll tell this story very quickly or
as coosely as I can. And I don't know if
you how much you remember this. This was kind of
remember this was a jessly Nick driven night. This was St.
Patrick's day, uh year two thousand St Patrick's Day. Uh.
The last thing I remember. It's like the middle of
the afternoon. I had gone to like an uh in
New Orleans. They they party for any reason. And I

(53:37):
went to a St. Patrick's Day party where they're drinking
green beer. It's like this big, this big, like block party.
I came home and I found myself with one of
those boxes of wine but just the bag, and I
was walking down the Yeah, Phronsia walking on the street
drinking like white wine out of a bag. And it's
the last thing I remember. And then I'm at Fat
Harry's as far we would always go to, and I

(53:57):
was like trying to make out with the girl who
was my girlfriend at the time's friend and you, and
everyone was like, Anthony, you're you. You have this girlfriend
you really like, get away from this other girl who
was not attractive. Took me home. You got you and
paulma Culture took me back home, put me on the couch.
I passed out for ten seconds and then jumped up
and said, let's get tattoos. And it was like one

(54:18):
in the morning. We called a tattoo place that said
they would stay open for us in the French Quarter.
We had po our friend who had not been drinking,
drive us down to the French Quarter and me and
Paul went in to get tattoos. Instead of coordinating a man,
let's go at the same thing, like something we would remember.
I was looking around and I couldn't I couldn't pick
out a tattoo. I was like, I can't even see anything.
I'm too drunk. And I told you, guys, I said
the guys, I can't get a tattoo. I'm too drunk.

(54:40):
And you said, we've already gotten us. We've already sat
down and gotten our tattoos. And I didn't even ask
you what you had gotten. I was like, okay. And
I was looking at like a giant book of angels
and you were like, Anthony, don't get an angel tattoo.
I was like, okay, thanks. Turned around and saw this
like dragon on the wall and I was like get that.
And I was like should I get it on my arm?
And you guys are like, yes, get I love how
like this is that crystal clear? Part of your memory

(55:00):
is our reaction. You can't remember anything else. But it
must be our fault that and it's not your fault.
I think you were just like this was sweet. I
don't think Paul and I are helping you out. No.
I was like, is this cool, and you guys are like, yes,
do it like and we were all excited at the
same time. And when you if you get a tattoo,
you get a piercing there's an adrenaline that kicks in
where you're just like everything is great. I understand when
people get addicted to them. We were fired up going

(55:21):
down to Ye, So then I get this tattoo. You're
not supposed to get them when you're drunk, but these
people did not care, the tattoo artists, and the next
money I woke up and was like, oh yeah, and
I had to like take off the bandage to see
what I had gotten. Like that's how drunk I was,
but not that you guys go. I got like a
dragon shape, like a like a Japanese dragon, kind of
Mortal Kombat looking thing on my shoulder, which I have
since covered up. I've since got a tattoo cover up

(55:42):
which you have seen, which I will not get up.
We kind of just accentuated it. Essentially, it's not a
dragon anymore. It's something completely different. I got a real
artist to take care of it for me, because this
looked like a sixteen year old doing Immortal Kombat imitation. Exactly.
It was like at the time, I thought it was
kind of cool, and then I saw other people the
exact same tattoos, like this is lame. And then you

(56:02):
got it looked like a sea horse is really what
people would pick on it for you. Uh, And it
was a big one yours. Mine was small and I
was not, you know, all together at that moment, but
there was still enough of me that was just like,
I'm gonna do something minimal damage. I got the symbol
of a hurricane with a ying yang inside of him,

(56:25):
and that's on my back like my shoulder blade, but
it's but it's very small. Yeah, you got you got
a really small thing when you're back, which like no
one would ever care. If I had gotten that, I
would never would have covered it up. This is not
no one ever knows it exists, no one ever sees it.
And then our friend Paul got a shamrock. Uh. Paul
mc golder got a shamrock. And then since what are
the words you got put around it? Later on? Uh,
it was some sort of some country lyrics who knows,

(56:48):
who knows, but you'll never get your car. Party never ends,
but something never ends, but the party will live forever,
something something like something ridiculous. All I remember is that
you were furious, especially with me, that I got a
small one on my back and you've got this huge
and his is on his back too, although it's bigger,
and you got this big one on your arm, and
you were like the next day you were you were saying, like,

(57:11):
what the heck that that? Basically, you know, no one's
ever gonna see mine and you've got this monster thing
on your bicep. I thought we should all should have
gone in together. Yeah, it wasn't. I wasn't mad about
my tattoo. I like that we all wanted his friends,
but I was like, we should have gotten either the
same thing or let's all get one on our back.
I I felt I felt left out and upsetting. That's
one of the reasons I'm leaving the podcast today. Well,
so many people sent in by the way for ask

(57:33):
Anthony somebody that there was a bunch, including from Ben Waldriff.
You know what it would take to keep the show going. Nothing,
I mean there were they could have kept going if
the league had treated me differently or treated the podcast differently,
but they blew it. Uh, And I'm supposed to have
a meeting with someone from the network after this. But
I don't think that's gonna go well. I think, uh,
I think I'm gonna take him to the woodshed. Oh please.

(57:54):
And I disagree. I think people can do something to
keep it going. I think if people listening and the
buzz there's build it and Anthony starts being he's away
from the podcast, and then the next season starts rolling around. Now,
even taking a week off, I was like, I don't
want to do this anymore. That taking two weeks off
is gonna make it doubly so. And people cannot influence.
So you're like Peyton Manning. You know you're you're emotional
right after the season. You've put everything you had into

(58:15):
this season of our g VP. But when the next
season starts going around and uh, you know, you're driving
somewhere and maybe you hear a few a few licks
of fifty nine miles to Jacksonville and the blood's gonna
start flowing. That was Roger Goodell's edited to keep Greg's job,

(58:48):
a joke that will definitely not be cut. Um here's
this is one of the last things I want to do.
We don't have predictions. Uh, this week but I wanted to,
uh talk about The Last Boy Scout, one of my
favorite movies of all time. Bruce Willis Damon Wayne's The
Last Boy Scout. I watched it a million times in college. Greg,
you have never seen it. I've never seen it all
the way through. I've seen parts of it because you

(59:08):
watched it, like you said, in college. So I would
watch twenty minutes here there. I definitely saw the most
memorable scene at some point, but I never watched it
all the way through. And this is something Even when
we were talking about doing this podcast back in July,
this was on your mind. You really wanted to revisit
The Last Yes, I wanted to. I wanted to put
it in present day circumstances. Brandon, have you ever seen
Last Boy Scout? Nope? Okay, put in present day circumstances.

(59:30):
Described the plot to you as if it was real
like current time players. I'll make it the Dallas Cowboys
as opposed to the l A. Stallions, which is the
team in the in the movie. And you tell me
what would what your job would be like that week
if this happened. Okay, let's start. Okay, let's say Darren
McFadden the Cowboys leading rusher last year, gets to call
at halftime of a Monday night football game against the

(59:51):
Cleveland Browns, telling him to win the game at any
cost or else. Okay, McFadden takes PCP, puts a gun
in his waistband, and takes the field for the second half.
On the first carry the half, McFadden shoots three Browns players,
one in the knee, two in the head, scores, gets
into the end zone, takes off his helmet, says, ain't life,

(01:00:14):
and then shoots himself in the head, kills himself. What
would your job be like that week you said it was?
It was tough when when Lynch retired during the game
with Tim and his left, What would that be like
for you? Yeah, that would be tough. We would definitely
go breaking news on that, Darren, you know, breaking Darren McFadden,
uh kills three Browns and self kills two and himself.

(01:00:37):
That would be the headline. Because you have to fit
it in like a certain amount of words. Tell me this.
We'll get into that. You know, because it comes on
your phone, you need to have a certain you know,
a certain length to get it on your phone. With
the Cowboys, get the w for that game. Well, it
would raise a lot of questions, you would you would
think you would think the game would stop right then, Uh,
and it would just become a crime scene. I don't

(01:00:58):
know how Fox, you know, who carries NFC games would
fill those next couple hours that would be interesting to watch,
Like would they go to you know, the Panthers Jaguars game,
or would they just go to James Brown and Terry
Bradshaw offering analysis that, oh my god, Darren McFadden just
killed two people and himself. I would think they would

(01:01:18):
do the ladder and it would really be asking a
lot of Terry. Okay, Let's say a couple of days later.
A couple of days later, Tony Romo's wife, Candice is
gunned down by hitman. What Tony stappens in the movie?
You're saying the equivalent, because we don't want to suggest
this is Damon this is Damon Wayne's in the movie,
you're saying halle Berry is his girlfriend. So I'm saying, uh,
Tony Romo plays the parts of of um Damon Wayne's

(01:01:42):
Damon Wayne's and Candice, his wife plays Hallie by underrated talent.
Damon Waynes underrated talent Hallie Berry. Tony Romo's wife Candice
is gunned down by hitman and then Tony kills several
of the hitman in retaliation. What's your week like after that?
What's what's your day like? Is that a big thing? Yeah?
That would that would feel like we were just I mean,
first of all, we would be covering. We would still

(01:02:04):
be covering the McFadden thing NonStop. That would be going on.
Everyone would be doing. That would be very stressful. Also
working at the NFL, because this would be an uncomfortable story,
I believe for the league, especially really any anyone covering
it would be it would be tricky. You have to
make sure you get everything right. Uh people wouldn't you know?
When they heard that story. People would obviously be unhappy,

(01:02:25):
um for Mrs Romo, but they would also be really
upset about themselves because, oh my god, that it would
just go to another level. Aaron Hernandez was hard enough.
This would be this would be something get out some day. Well,
I think he would be allowed to if he wanted to.
It would the NFL canceled games, I don't think so.

(01:02:46):
People keep going. People talked up, I mean everyone when
they think of Brett Farve. They think about how he played,
you know, the day or day or two after his
dad died or that day. So you know, maybe Tony was,
but Far's dad wasn't killed by hit man, and Brett
Farb didn't have to kill those hit man himself. Well
plus plus bless you'd have a backup running back the

(01:03:08):
next week, Joseph, you know that that would be problematic.
The next day, Greg, after Tony Romo's wife dies and
he kills some of the hit man. The next day,
Tony Romo finds a tape recording of a conversation between
Jerry Jones and Texas Senator Ted Cruz trying to get
gambling legalized. Apparently Candice, Tony Romo's wife, was trying to
blackmail Jerry Jones and that's why he had her killed. Okay,

(01:03:30):
he finds this out right now, Ted Cruz wants too
much money to legalize gambling. He went six million, they're
often three. He wents six. So Jerry Jones decides it's
cheaper to have Ted Cruz killed by a sniper during
a Cowboys game. Again, these are the characters in the movie.
You're making them the current day. If everyone is seeing
this movie except for you and Brett. All Right, during

(01:03:53):
the game, during the game where they're gonna assassinate Ted Cruiz,
Tony Romo, who's not playing, jumps on a horse, jumps
on a horse, and the sidelines takes the game ball
from the field of play and throws it into the
luxury box, hitting Ted Cruz square in the nose, just
as the sniper who's hidden by the lights Ted Cruise,

(01:04:15):
just stops Ted Cruise from getting killed, but breaks his nose.
The snipers then shot by police and falls into a
helicopter blade, sending blood and viscera and body parts all
over the crowd below. What's your week like? Then? What's
your what's your what's your day? Like? Well? Have we
like did? I would have to? I would have to
call NFL media insider Ian Rappaport, like, has he confirmed

(01:04:36):
the conversations between Jerry Jones and the senator, Because that's
a key part of the story, the whole gambling conversations.
It's not public knowledge yet, Like I would need Ian to,
you know, even to have to confirm all of that.
If he did, I think we would just shut down
NFL dot Com. That would be it. Wetting. That would
be over. I just think it'd be too it would

(01:04:58):
be too much truth to deal with, and we'd let
other people, you know, cover the league for us. Now,
if you didn't confirm it, if it was just the
Tony Ramo, shooty, I think we'd do a long form
feature on how he saved the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, let
me put that, let me put the cherry on the sun.
This is the last part. Jerry Jones escapes, all right,
He gets out of the stadium after all this happens,

(01:05:19):
but takes a suitcase. He thinks it's full of money,
but actually contains a bomb, which he brings home and opens,
killing the Cowboys owner in a massive explosion. You can see,
you can see from the stadium. He blows himself up
in a huge explosion. Now what happens? Now all the
all the story comes out about Jerry Jones trying to
bribe senators, trying to assassinate people. Tony Romo's name is cleared. Well,

(01:05:42):
that's great for Romo, but that's bad. You know, Jerry
Jones a big supporter of the league. He's a big
time owner. Technically he owns one, you know, thirty second
of NFL dot com. So if we hadn't shut down
the league's website before, I think that's it. Flags are
a half master. Jerry Jones, even though he had all
these people killed, even though he had Tony roman wife killed.

(01:06:02):
I I feel like you could not keep the Cowboys
in the Jones family. You couldn't just give it to
Steven Okay, Stevens. I think if it becomes very complicated
and maybe you have to give the team to Mark Davis.
D I like that. Let's go to some bonus content

(01:06:28):
that is someone sitting on an accordion that was the
laziest sad song you could have possibly found. Uh, maybe
this gets cut for time. I'm gonna read the email.
People wonder why I'm not coming back to this podcast,
why the NFL is happy that I would not be
coming back. We definitely have our fans. People support this,
people continue to support, but the NFL has not been
very supportive. And I'll read an email that I sent

(01:06:51):
to Greg two forward to his bosses um, and then
Greg will tell you the parts that he edited, which
which caused me to like him less even though he's
my best friend. This is my email to Greg, I
said this maybe what three weeks ago, four weeks ago? Yeah,
mid January. I'll be as brief and blunt as possible.
Feel free to forward this to your boss or any

(01:07:13):
of the higher ups. We've been discussing a car service
to take me to and from the podcast every Wednesday
for the past month or so. And while I don't
think anyone would consider me a diva, I am certainly talent.
A car service might sound like a big perk for
many people, but I have come to expect it on
every job I have done for the past five years.
I understand that this is a free podcast, but you

(01:07:34):
cannot dangle a perk in front of me and then
not follow through the second I am told a car
shouldn't be a problem, I expect a car not following
through is not following through immediately, is quite frankly with me.
And I will continue to do this podcast as long
as the NFL is gracious enough to have me, but
I will not be I don't expect anyone to bend

(01:07:54):
over backwards for me, but but I absolutely expect the
NFL employee in charge of travel to type my name, address,
date and time into the system and make my life easier.
I look forward to the league's response and expect you
to print out this email and have it framed for it.
Is this treasure your best friend, Anthony Jesse. Now what
part did you write it out? Greg? Would you take

(01:08:15):
out before you sign it up? Yeah? I regret that
I took out the the with me and the I
will not be with Yeah, the heart of the email,
I don't. I think you get your message across other
than that. But I was looking out for you when

(01:08:38):
I told this story to to Emica, my wife, you know,
she said me editing out that email was almost like
our friendship in a nutshell? Do you trying to ruin it? Me?
Trying to you know, smooth things over just a little bit,
keep things going? And nowhere are we? We're doing the
last show. Well, it's better than us not doing the

(01:09:00):
last three or four shows, not to me. Let's do predictions?
Have you went the hospital needing? You'll see that was real?
Drew a fitting second to last song, a penultimate song
before we end this podcast. No games. Let's do predictions, Greg,

(01:09:24):
What do you predict gonna happen with our j VP? Oh? Well,
how lucky did I get to I predict that we're
gonna be back. Of course we're gonna be back. You
you know, you act all tough and you write these
emails and that's all true, and I'm, of course I'm
on your side with is It's it's ridiculous some of
the things that have that have gone on. But I
think once you get away from the Rosenthal and Justin

(01:09:48):
mc vanny project, Brandon quicker than you on that one,
you're getting slow. I think you're gonna think about this,
You're gonna look back on it very fondly, and you're
gonna think, let's figure out fun way to work together
again at the NFL, and that will be back. And
you know it might be maybe next season, maybe it'll
be the whole off seasons off that will be back.
That's my prediction. Well, I mean, I understand you would

(01:10:12):
say that there's no way. I'm I'm an optimistic, positive guy.
I'll say this, we will definitely work together again. I've
enjoyed doing this, but getting me here for sixteen episodes
six I'll count all sixteen has been crazy that I've
done all this. Um, you're lucky that I've done any
of these, maybe sixteen of them. Maybe they could change
things up and in terms of the agreement of you
being here and whatnot. Who knows. At this point they

(01:10:33):
would have to bend over so hard for me, and
they will never do that. They would never like we've
talked about the idea of a TV show on the
NFL network. They would never allow that. They will allow
us to do what we want to do. That won't happen.
I'll say this week we will work together again. Maybe
maybe not our j VP, maybe what I've called the
junior vice president, the jessel Nick and Rosenthal Vanda project.
Maybe that could live somewhere else, not here, But we'll see.

(01:10:56):
But I think by the time next season Rules Alone
rolls around, my life will be in a very different
I I'll have things I'll be working on that I
will not be able to have the time for this,
which is fine. But we will work together again. You're
my best friend, friend, But but this is this is dead.
This is dead as of about three minutes from now.
I I refused to believe any of that. You know,

(01:11:18):
some of that was hurtful. And I think once your time,
once your time in the sun, it's coming out even
more and you're busier and busier. That's even more when
jessel Nick needs to have a little reality in his life,
have a little more of the God, God kids, Elis
and I'll hang up and walker and have a little
more of this because this is more real than than
the rest of your work life. All right, Greg, you

(01:11:42):
gonna play one more song, Brandon, Brandon, what do you
think about this ending? I like it? Do you like
that it's ending? Yeah? I mean, Brandon, what do you
like about this ending? I thought this particular one was good,
but the actual show I don't like it. You don't
like the work ending? You do? You haven't enjoyed doing it.
I just helped life mood doing it. You've enjoyed doing
it in my life, it has do people like talk

(01:12:03):
to you about it? Is it? Like? Has it made
you more employable or less employable? I would say more employable?
Look at the other Look at the other gigs he's gotten.
He's doing um n zan women's ping pong for what
c sun? Yeah, a lot of extra gigs. Yeah, pretty much? Great? Great, Greg,
Great last joke before you want to play one more song?

(01:12:25):
Go ahead, Brandon, whatever you want this time? Sit back,
enjoy to rock, Sit back, Enjoy to Rock, Sit back,
Enjoy to Rock, Sit back to Rock. No one could
ever get sick of that song, no matter how much
they try, and they've tried hard. Greg, before we leave

(01:12:45):
last show, last part of the last show, tell me
about my god kids. How are Ellison Walker? How are
your children? They're good? I mean, I got home yesterday
from nine days away. That's the longest I've been away
from from both of them, the first time Emmaica and
I really spent any time away from from both of
them since Walker was born. Uh, And it was really cool,

(01:13:06):
Like I when I got back, Walker could not be
more excited. The I feel like the half hour hour
after we got home and he realized Emmica and I
had not just left him forever with his grand was
the happiest hour of his entire life. So that was
really cool. And Ellis was obviously very happy to see us,

(01:13:27):
and we heard her early on the show and she
loves you. And I think that's one thing I want
to point out before before this all wraps up, that
you know you you joke around about you know this
tough Anthony jessinick I, but you're a great godfather, You're
people out there should know. You're a great godfather to
these kids and they love you. And I picked well
choosing Jessick as my godfather. You're a lucky man. Ye.

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