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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You know, time of it is here we got Jenny Graham,
you know, just a guy who made it thirteen years
in the league.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How many Pro Bowls?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Too?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Damn many? How many All Pros? You know, he's got a.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Few more than me, because I mean it is just
a perennial Pro Bowl or just a guy who was
a force to me record with not only with the Saints,
Seattle and then other places, but he came back to
the Saints, another place with Chicago Green Bay. But like again,
he came back to the Saint and finished strong as
the red zone target, as a man who ran routes,
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as a guy who I've seen over a thousand yards
at tight end.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I don't know if your tight end can't do what
he was doing.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Really broke the mode in terms of basketball players, the
tight ends like the Antonio Gates era, right, yeah, I
mean when we think about, oh, like a big guy
can move, wiggle around, but let's talk about the and
can move. You know, you Q came into the league
and guys sort of doubted your speed. I know, there
there was there was There wasn't even a rumor there
was an official race between DJ Williams of Old and
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Jimmy Graham.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Jimmy who won that race.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
We're not gonna say what the monetary value of the
race was over the rumors around.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It, but who won the race?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Oh well that was definitely me, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Absolutely, you know, and confirmed by multiple.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Others multiples because a lot of people were betting on it.
But that started. I gave him three months to train
for that. I was up like two seventy at the time,
and I guess I ran like a four to four
or something in that. Yeah, you got to for the money.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
The money of pride, because at the time, you know,
you're not to bet on anything like that. You know. Well,
the things that I've never done in New Orleans is
win a.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Super Bowl, you know, trust man, I know. Yeah, it's
You're able to come in here and catch up a
lot of people. But you know when the Super bowls
in your hometown and and uh, you know, you sit
here and you never had that experience of even playing
in one. Yeah, I mean each yep, I mean you know,
I went and you know, uh, let's say, like, you know,
(02:02):
when I went to Green Bay, you know, my assisiant
go to Green Bay, Aaron Rodgers, and I saw everything
going on I was like, I'm just trying to look
to who's gonna maybe be close to have an opportunity
in Super Bowl, and you know it's it's uh yeah,
I mean I took ten million less to go there,
and because it wasn't about the money. It was about
getting the opportunity to to go out on that field
on a Sunday like this and and battle with your boys.
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And you know, it's just something that evaded me for
thirteen years has abited you as well. And you know
it it it can be annoying, that's for sure. Man.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know that that is the ultimate prize in our
in our profession. And as you look at it, you know,
you you went thirteen and you went to a couple
of teams and like you know, saw playoffs.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, I mean Seattle. Right when I went there, Legion
a boom Era. Uh, you know, what more could we want?
We had the best running back in the game at
the time. You know, Russ was playing well. Uh, we
had a ton of receivers and the defense was just
absolute beasts. So you know, I mean that's why you
when I got traded, it was like, well, I'm still
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going to a playoff team and I have an opportunity,
so you know, I'm trying to make that work. And
but you know, you could chase it all you want to,
and sometimes you know, it's just those those chips don't
lay down as it should. Right.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Beyond that, going going through multiple teams, do you pick
up new hates like as as as the Saints, Sueeze
typically go out a way to hate the Falcons, and
the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Typically go out their way to hate us.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, you go to Seattle, did you do you hate
the Cardinals the Rams? Do do you find a hate
or is it just you?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
You It depends on how long you're there, so you
eventually do find some type of hate, you know, like
for US sanfraan right, Seattle with Sanfra always was uh
you know, especially that defense. You know, were always trying
to show up and do kind of do our thing
when it in Green Bay. Uh, you know, the the
hate there between Minnesota Minnesota is then, you know, especially
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when Zen was there and that defense. Uh, you know,
sometimes the way they were playing a little dirty and
how it was you know, so that those games were
always so intens especially when we go to Minnesota. But yeah,
you have new but I had never faced anything like
it was since Falcons. You know, that was just we
don't like you. We're going out here saying stuff in
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the media, We're gonna see here and then try to
embarrass you, and you know, there's there's no friends on
the other.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Side, right, You're like, I see you, and also I
hate you. Yeah, I hope, I hope you don't die.
But also I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Get exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Exactly I mean, are you still doing the Archer Challenge?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, we talked about this now officially now like two
years ago in a hot tub. You're like, yeah, man,
me and my guys we're gonna And I was looking
at you, like, well, we're sitting in the hot tubs,
so this doesn't make sense for me to ever be
in anything cold. I know you've been training. I mean
last time, last time I saw you had like road rash.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, yeah, I got so I was I just started. Yeah,
I just started my training for the row and I
got a bike accident, missed like I was missing half
my skin. So I wasn't even allowed to train for
this row. So while I was on this boat, this
was last week, so we had our first open sea
trial for the Arctic Challenge twenty twenty five, and I'm
sitting there missing half my skin on my leg, like
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my hands are missing skin.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
We sat down the lunch and I'm just like, what happened?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah? Brutal, brutal. So you know, I'm managing that, trying
to make sure stuff doesn't get infected. And then we're
sitting on this boat for two overnights Miami, Alamarada to Miami.
And where's Alamarada? Don't just the words out there that
I understand. That's a that's in the keys. It's right
right above Marathon keys. Yeah, yeah, Flota keys. And so
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I burned nine thousand calories a day as we're out there. Uh,
And I mean we learned a lot on the sea trial,
but yeah, the biggest thing I learned is this is
just going to be brutal. You know, I was sleeping
broken sleep through. I was a night because you can
only sleep for fifty minutes at a time, So basically
I went nine to eleven the first night. Then alarm
went off. I switch out with Andrew. I do some
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navigation and stuff, make sure our way point's good, get
some food in me, lay down for a little bit. Finally,
fifty minutes alarm goes off. I wake back up. Now
it's one o'clock. I crawl out of this like little
hot box of a thing. It's kind of chilly outside,
kind of cold. And then you sit and jump on
this row, sit for two hours in a row, and
then you do that again, which would be that's five o'clock.
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And that's just NonStop. The boat is always moving twenty
four to seven.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
How much communication is going on between you and your
your boat mates shipmates teammates.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, quite a bit. Like so I'm rowing with hand
on normally, so you know, we're always chatting and talking
and saying so there's music playing, but at night it's
just pure silence and all you can hear is the
oars for two straight hours. Yeah, this is and you know,
because you're you're facing the other way right that the
boat's going, and so you're just looking at the back
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of a wall and these numbers. Do you have a
cocksmith and no, no, no, I've got a little now
Cox Cox Coxon Cox. We had one for the head
of the trials obviously because he's got a steer. But yeah,
for this, you know, it's me. You know, I'm the
lead navigator, so I got to make sure we don't
you know that we get from point into point B.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Why you're sleep for for an hour fifty minutes of
so what the hell you mean? Fifty for two days straight?
And then when this when when this challenge how happens?
How many days is that?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
The world records fifteen days four hours? So this will
be NonStop like that, but only that the boat but brother, yeah,
trust me, bro, this boat is so tippy, like you know,
it's built for speed. So if one person walks on
one side, the whole boat's tipping over.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Are you supposed to sleep through that?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah? I mean we'll waves like so up there in
the Arctic, it's the average temperature in July is going
to be thirty five forty, the water temperatures twenty eight.
The winds are seventeen to twenty six knots and gusting
thirty five forty something, and the swells can get up
to sixteen feet.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So one day you woke up and was like, you
know what, this coolball is too easy for me. I've
had too much success. My business is booming off the field.
You know what, what is going to challenge? Me.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I already fly helicopters and planes. You know what, the Arctic?
How do you even have a dream to say the Arctic?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I never had a dream about this. This is all
from my boy. My boy, he graduated from Cambridge guys NBA.
We're at a pub. He's always want to roll across
the ocean. He basically convinces me after a couple of drinks,
of course, and now yeah, oh wait, that's usually how
it gets involved. Yeah, and and and so now I'm
run across the ocean. But it's cool because we do
have the opportunity to raise quite a bit of money.
(08:41):
We're gonna do this thing called the Million Meters Challenge
where we're gonna try to raise a dollar per meter,
which will be a million meters to support the charities
that were here, which is Laws and the Covenant House.
Covenant House. They they shelter, it's a it's a homeless
shelter for kids twenty two and lower, and then Lauris
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introduces kids into sports. So it's for a good cause,
but it's gonna be the hardest and most protal thing
I've ever done.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, that just sounds amazing for me. Sleeping waking
up going oh, you know, because you're going to be
lack of sleep, oh beyond I mean it will be
a good person when I get angry, let alone, like
lack of.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Sleep, oh man, and then making right decisions. Right. So
that's one of the things is like this mind gym
really understanding training the mind because I'm gonna weather calms
and I have to set a route and I've got
to make sure that route's good. So yeah, it's gonna
be serious. All right.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So when you get into serious training, this happens in
ju said July.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, so we leave in June, we wait for the
weather window, it'll be July. Our next seat trial is
in March, and then the boat get shipped off. Jeez. Yeah,
this is this is insane. So there's only been sixteen
people to ever do this route ever. Yeah, so there's
been more people to walk on the Moon than have
attempted to row this route. That's how dangerous this is.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
All right, but at least you're you're doing it for
a good cause. Million meters possibly over a million dollars,
you know.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, we're hoping, I mean, because all this is happening,
you know, to change the lives of kids here locally
in New Orleans, kids who have been through a lot,
who just need opportunities, and this is going to help
provide those things.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
What are you what are you most excited about on
this challenge? And what are you most worried about in
this challenge? Okay, that you have the apparently the nautical
experience to now be.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
The navigator, Yeah, I would say them uh leaving Trump SA,
we have to get out of the Fjords, which is
gonna be very dangerous Felds. But yet we're still in
the Fjords, so that's gonna be absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
The only time I've ever heard fjords is in the
TV show The Vikings.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah continue, Yeah, I mean basically they play. And then
not only that, the glacier is that we're going to
is uh, you know, home to polar bears and all
these other things. So being able to see that's going
to be pretty cool. The biggest thing I'm looking forward
to is my first meal after this is over, and
how much food I'm gonna eat right is going to
be out of control. But the biggest worries of this thing,
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there's a lot. Yeah, the water maker has to work,
so We've got to get that dialed in because it's
colder up there, so the density of the water is different.
So you have to reset this water maker to be
able to clean that type of salt water. And you
have to understand that. So that's a problem. I keep
going too, apparently up there in the cabin because they
got to be completely sealed, because that's the only reason,
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that's the only way the boat, if it rolls over,
won't sink.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
When they're sealed, you run out of oxygen in there,
and because of your body heat, it creates like conversation everywhere.
So this one team that did it, they had about
a foot of water in the cabinet that they were
sleeping in for like a month on.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Oh yeah, I don't understand the intrigue for a man
who has jumped out of planes, for a man who's
flown those planes, for a man who has a trick
plane and flown with the Blue Angels.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And I'm just like, I'm gonna just like.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Give you your flowers now because apparently you're you're going
this is the last reckless feet.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That I have to like no, no, no, no, no, well.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Me, no, no, no, no, no, there's nothing more reckless than like, okay,
so there's the moon next.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
No, it's all about mitigating risks, which we're doing constantly.
That's why I've been so.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Busy mitigating risks.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Would be like, hey, let me not take my ass
onto THETIC challenge. But you're doing it for the kids,
and I can't fight that.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's problem is I'm too far into this point. So
we're all in on this. And not only that, but
some of the issues of weather, we're gonna get hit
by a weather system.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I'll get to escort with this, Like is there gonna
be something like if you have to bail you.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
That is the biggest issue. The biggest issue is because
we're going after world records, you cannot have a boat
following you, so it's unassisted. Well, we'll be up there completely.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Like you had to say, there's other worries. Now, that
is the biggest worry. If I need help, there is
no help.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Well, all those other well, all those other things.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
That's why you like because like some some people are like, man,
I don't know if I can swim like that.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well, I mean like I'm technically going to be the
first light skin ever up there. So you know that's
where record.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I okay, yeah yeah, somebody gotta fight back for Drake.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, I have too. I'm gonna do my best. Well.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I appreciate you be tapping into the pop always