Don’t worry, Cam will be back Wednesday Oct. 23rd with a brand new episode! In the meantime, he wanted to bring back one of his favorites from the offseason. So, enjoy his conversation from the Sack Summit with Jacksonville Jaguars pass rusher Josh Hines-Allen. Josh reflects on his breakout 17.5 sack season, and break bread with Cam on how to take his game to the next level. Cam and Josh discuss the goals of the Sack Summit and the importance of sharing their knowledge with the young bucks coming up. Josh also shares how changing his entire routine, from reading books from Kobe Bryant’s mentor, to listening to jazz, to sitting in a dark room, were keys to his breakout season. He also talks about why he and Trevor Lawrence are on the same page about what it’ll take to bring a Super Bowl to Jacksonville. All this and more. So, tap in!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Here we are on off the edge with me, your host,
Cam Jordan's and I'm just overly blessed, overly happy to
be here in Las Vegas at the annual Sack Summit,
which has become a thing now you know me, Von Miller,
Max Crosby, first collaboration. We're gonna take off from here.
But I'm sitting here with my guy, Josh Allen. When
(00:26):
I say paid is an understatement. We're not gonna put
numbers out there, but he just got paid this offseason.
We are so excited for him to join the show.
When I say pro bowler, we talk about Josh Allen.
When I say, you know a guy who had seventeen
half sacks this past season, a threshold that is hard
to get to. You know, there's been a lot of
seasons you can put together half ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen.
(00:50):
Once you get beyond that fifteen, you get in a real,
real rare air and you hit seventeen half marks and
seventeen half sacks for the mark this is past season.
I'm just gonna say, congratulations on your success, Congratulations on
getting paid, Congratulations on everything you've done at this point.
And I know there's so much more, but I appreciate
you tapping in on the show to be here with you,
(01:11):
big bro. Yeah, indeed, and you've been to Sax some before, right,
I have eight years ago. I would say it was
one of them years. I was like all these all
these sex im start to blend together, like definitely been here. Yes,
I was it three years ago. And now you're coming
back you know where where it's bigger and better than ever. Uh,
sitting here at a hotel where we're about to get
active tomorrow, get some real work in. What are you
(01:33):
looking forward to? Uh? Communication?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Uh, blending with the guys, learning, growing, and also spreading
my knowledge and wealth things that I you know, learned
throughout these years that I could pass on to other guys.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Spreading wealth. Can I get a dollar wealth the wealth
of knowledge? I can help some money, you know, Okay,
no doubt, no doubt speaking of you know, just the
the success that you had, have you have you had
a big splurg Yet I know you got a fami.
I know you got kids beyond moms, and I know
you took care of the fam. I know you got
(02:09):
a wife. He probably got a nice purse out of it.
What did you get you? I got a new car.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh, we'll say double.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
R Oh I had to get it.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh big, big, big dog.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Okay, I'm saving that. What a driver? Oh does it
come with the driver? What does a double ar come
with the driver? You gotta sell you separately.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's easy. You gotta get it separately. It's easy to
get one, especially in jackson A lot of people. Yeah,
Jacksonville really small. Oh you boy, I'm not gonna lie
to you.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
When I first got to Jacksonville, my my big homie
Tyson Lulu was drafted. Was that twenty ten, first time
I ever got through Jacksonville. I was like, there's nothing here.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Nope, that's why it's easy to make people.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
No people. I mean, fourteen years later, it actually looks
like it's like a solid city.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, it's growing. It's definitely grown.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
With the new stadium being built too, then that's gonna
bring a lot more revenue, a lot more more money
in the city.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And then bringing the four seasons into our owner, bringing
the four seasons in and.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You got a four season in Jacksonville, were making one.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, So we're doing something man, And you know, hopefully
that just keeps growing.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And growing for us right right, You got my you
got my former d line coach Ryan Nilson as your decordinator.
Now you've had you know a little off season with them.
How do you like him so far?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I mean, so far, so good, you know for me,
you know, he called the first time. The first thing
he talked about when I talked on the phone was
he going forward. That's all I need to hear. Now,
put the ball in my court, let me be me
and we can do that. And I think it's the
conversations that we had. He kind of lets you, you know,
take a choke because I think in his defense, you know,
the ends right, need to be need to be elite,
(03:53):
you know, needs to be those guys. And where I'm at,
where my trajectory is going in my career, I can
only see myself going up. So if you allow me
to go right, trust me, then I'm gonna go. And
but now this year, man, I did that last year
by myself. Now it's trying to spread that well to
the others. You know, Uh, got Trey who's coming up,
(04:14):
Got Eric that's new, and we got a lot of
younger guys that I can kind of like, let's let's
do this a big movie like this.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You have the monster in the middle.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Now I'm already No, man, I'm happy. I'm happy kid
in the candy stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Sure, it seems like you guys got a strong collective.
You know, a couple of years ago they paid the
wide receiver Kirk. You know, they kept They're starting to
keep their own you. You know, Trevor Lawrence. How does
howes it make you feel? The organization, you know, wants
to love the players, wants to you know, pay their
loyalty towards players like you and Trevor.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I mean it means a lot. Uh, it means we're
going in the right direction. You know, things that haven't
been done in a very long time. You know, for
me to be the first you know, one hundred million
dollar player and or like in the whole organization. Uh,
it's kind of crazy, but it's a it's a humble experience,
and you know, I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But it's we're in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
We're keeping our top players, our best players, and our
core players as well, so we can continue to keep
building on that, keep bringing the younger guys up. That's
why we put these guys in these roles to I mean,
you play for the Saints, you had none but young
guys and build them up and now you see them
go here, go there. But they helped the organization build
as well. That's all I want to do. Put my
name on the map and never be forgotten in Jacksonville history, right.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Right, But I mean, just keep your core guys in there.
Keep your locker room integrity good too, like the vibes,
the ability for you know, in the season you want
to have adversity. You're going to have those wins by
twenty points. Some losses by threes that hurt way more
than a blowout loss. But that core locker room keeps
it going. Like, tell me about that, Tell me about
your locker room. How does it feel? Because you know,
every locker room is different, so I'm always intrigued to know,
(05:55):
like what is your locker room feel like?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Is there is you know, over you go, I don't
see any dancing or like, you know, now, we've got
a cool locked room. We got a lot of young guys.
This is one or two things that we I think
we need to implement this year moving forward to build
that team chemistry. I think right now, we too were
too blocked off, you know where we got one one
one group of like D line in one area, right
(06:19):
old line in another area.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I think we need to mix that up.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Uh and just just know you know your teammates and
I think that kind of being I think that would
bring a lot more chemistry with each other offers and defensively.
But other than that, we got a young locker room.
We'd like to have fun.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Who gets control of the ox?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You know, I keep boom box?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay, you know, so I usually but I like the
old schools and so if I'm on it, you know,
I'm usually playing cards with the guys and I'm playing
you know, my jams and stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
What's old school for you, sir? You were born in
the late nineties.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
No old so I like, you know, I like like
a little Luther, you know, I like I like a
little like Big Luther music, soul child.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I like the vibe.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Bro. I like to keep it because we all we
go out on the field, we listen in that rap.
We go in the weight room, were listening in the rap.
You know, all this stops rolling around. Kind of need
it in the locker room. Just keep a nice chill vibe.
Everybody talking vibbing out. Like I said, we're playing cards.
We got a basketball hoop. You know, we got a
nice little you know, game room. Guys go chilling.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I got a game room.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah we do, like Jackson, what you mean like like
I said, we got it's like a little lounge, a
little lounge. We got piers fous golf simulator, ping pong table.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, come on, man, we got simulator. We're doing it.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Okay, Okay, I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I mean, uh, we know obviously you're you're you're a
leader on the team. You lead by example. What's it
like to have, you know, Trevor Lawrence, former number one
overall pick from Clemson? Uh? What is he like as
a quarterback? I mean when I when I came to
the league, I had Drew Brees and like so they
epitome of a leader. I know exactly what that looked like.
(08:03):
You know, for you you come in and then you
get you get Trevor Lawrence, and he clearly is a
clear cut got to be a leader. The way he plays,
the way he you know, implements his style to the game.
What is he like as a leader?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
One thing that I can say about Trevor Man is
the consistency that he has with the routine. You know,
I think the more older I get is you know,
you have to have a routine, but you can't be
a robot to that routine. But you have to have
a routine. And I remember, you know, his second year
and he just wasn't playing as good every morning because
(08:36):
we're like early birds, so I come in there heat
right there. So it's like seeing that every single day
from now, from then to now, it's consistent. You know,
He's always had the same demeanor of like we're gonna
get it. You know what I'm saying, We're gonna command this,
We're gonna take control, you know, but we just have
to keep seasoning the moments. And but so for me,
just to see him stay disciplined, to see him stay
(08:57):
locked in Lilliam State, trusted in his after what works
for him, you know, I like to see that. And
he's been doing that ever since. And I know it's
gonna pay off.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I think he's gonna have to you know, breakout year
this year, and I think he's gonna lead us the
right away and lead us to you know a lot
of victories.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Okay, okay, I mean yeah, that the AFC out there
scrapping y'all. Y'all, y'all heavy sets. Yeah we did.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, it's uh, it's just the d line though, you
know how the dy you know, the Battle of Trench
is really gonna play a part.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And I think the investments y'all made. The last time
y'all had success into into the playoffs was you know,
back when it was Saxonville. So like what y'all, what
y'all created with the addition of Eric Armstead, y'all have
potential get.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Back, get back to it, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Like it's like I said in the intro, you had
seventeen seventeen and a half sax this past season. Uh,
how do you talk this last season in terms of production?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I think, you know, I think last year, man, last
year was a difficult. It wasn't It was difficult for me,
you know, because I feel like I couldn't rely on
anybody else mentally. So it's like two people, three people communication,
no communication. I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna meet the
band in front of me. I studied the dude since
since since July, since June, you know, I know my
(10:16):
matchup and I'm gonna work this dude in front of me.
And I think, you know, that gave me a lot
of success individually, but I think it kind of I
could where I could have spreaded that wealth all over
the line and build this person and build that person up.
I think it was just like I did it by myself.
Now let me see if I can do this, but
added add the value to everybody else, you know, and
(10:38):
bring them to my level. I don't won't go to
nobody else's level. I don't want to bring everybody up
to my level. And obviously adding Eric, a guy that's
been played at the high level for so long, played
with guys that played at the high level, play with
Nick defensive play of the Year, so he knows what
that work ethic is and he knows what that competitive is.
So it's like, if I can bring that to my
other guys and take more control right there, this y'all
(11:00):
far we can go as a whole D line now.
And that's why I say, like AFC South young quarterbacks,
you know, we got guys really throwing that.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Ball there, and who's gonna win up front? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And if you look at every super Bowl. You know
who who's taking over.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
The line heat and you see which one's gonna win.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And I told him that, right, I won't be the
best one. We're gonna be the best D line, and
we gonna be the best D line. That won't be
the best one. So you know that's my that's my
challenge for them, and you know they accept, They know that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
They know.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
They accept that for me, and I accept that for
them as well. Like Trade, Me and Trey talk all
the time. That's like my little brother, and like he
know and I know he knows I'm gonna be the
top dog. Te you got to come give me well,
he said, Josh, I'm gonna be top doll.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
We're gonna work. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
It's that competitive edge, man. We need to compete.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I want to be the best. You want to be
the best.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
We want to be the best together, and we keep
we got to keep proving it right. Everybody can do
it one time, everybody, Look you do it two times,
three times.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
That's where I gotta get the word. The world tries
to to crown people king over one year. If you've
been in the Lee long enough, I'm like yeah, but
show me three four years. You can do it three
four years. I believe in the height. If you do
it for one year, anybody can catch a lick. Anybody,
anybody can roll the dice and be amazing. Off one
roll show you can continue, you know, and you like
(12:18):
that building like and the greatest thing about you just
said is you know like i'ma topped up but I
want you to come get me. It's like I used
to tell the d Lion. I'm telling d Lion all
the time. I like, Yo, if y'all can shine as
bright as y'all can, Like if y'all bring in everything
y'all do, y'all be amazing as you can, think about
how much more amazing I'm gonna look too, because like
if you bro, if you're if you're a sword and
(12:39):
you're your sword and your sword everybody is what is
these gleaming swords call me excaliburate, like I'm gonna be
like I'm a king slayer. You know what I'm saying.
And you have to have that mentality in this game
so when you come to it, like I want to
make Brian Bezi the best he can be. I want
to be uh I want. I want to make car
grants and the best that he can be, because by
(12:59):
doing that that elevates their play, which is gonna push
myself to work even harder. Sir, what did you what
did you do this differently? You know from years previous
to this break, this huge monsters here, you just had
staying locked in. You know, I did a lot more
reading this past year by my audio books. Uh, audio
books like actually books protecting football or just like mental
(13:22):
mental mindset brooks, you know, being able to stay locked in, uh,
being able to control, you know, control what you could control.
So for me game days, man, I didn't listen to
any music.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know, I was really big on you know, if
anything was to happen, I didn't want music to be
the reason why I didn't perform, you know, or it
didn't I didn't play my song.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I didn't do this, just like little things. So it
was really big.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
On how mentally can I be in the game, Like
I'm mentally confident. I know, I studied this dude for
so long. I studied his offense for so long.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So if there was no music, how did you keep
your cane? A lot there?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'm just breathing watching a film a long time. You know,
I get in the dark room. So my first thing,
my people find me a dark room.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I get a dark room. I go in there.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I just chill out, control my thoughts, like in the stadium,
in the stadium, in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And so once you once you get to the stadium.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I find me. You know, my people give me a
dark room. I go in there, and you know, I
take a little nap. I read my book. First of all.
I read my book so I can like get off
of football, get off of you know, any feeling that
I'm about to feel and just have like a you know,
I got better off of reading, you know, and I'm
reading things that's that can apply to me in this game.
(14:33):
So I'm reading these books. I'm taking naps. I listen
to a little jazz here. And I got that from Lebron.
Uh I got that from Brin. I definitely take that
from Bro.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And you stay on the first page, like no, I read, Okay,
I read.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'd be reading this uh Relentlessness by Tim Grover, and
you know he talks about three years of people you
got a cooler, cleaner, and you got a cooler, you
got a cleaner, and you got a closer.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'm a cleaner, you.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Know, cleaner, cleaner.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
What's the cleaner the.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Guy that do it right?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
You know, a guy that do it right half the time.
And you got the cooler, that guy that's just out there.
You know, I don't want to you know they talking
about clutch people. You know, clutch people come come in
clutch moments. I wouldn't be a player that come in
at all moments. And so if I can continue to
have that mindset, continue to challenge myself, continue to push
(15:32):
myself in practice, first one on the field, last one
to leave. Really doing things that's applying myself to get
better during practice. You know, I do things pre practice
to get better during practice, and then I do the
things that after practice that I didn't do right in practice.
So every day I just feel like I'm getting better.
You know, I'm eating right. You know, my family, my
(15:53):
family is situated. I make sure my wife is you know,
stable enough that if I'm not in the house with
covering my body, are sleeping in the type of barrick
that everything's okay. And make sure I spend time with
my kids and obviously tell them, let them know why
I'm doing what I'm doing. And also I take them
with me sometimes, so you know, making sure everything in
(16:13):
my life is is what it's supposed to be so
I can play. That's why kids like we had to
chill out on the kids.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know, three three three is a plenty at it
gets to be a lot, especially in season.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
You know, wife, you need a date night, we do it.
They night, Tuesday night.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
We date nights tuesday'day night.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
You guys do like a defensive line dinner defense.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So again, so you know, un fortunately, we've been building
our house for three years and it just got finished
right before I signed my contract. And so prior to that,
I was like I don't know what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I was like, we're gonna sell it, We're gonna move here.
We gotta do this.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
And then we get our house done, and then a
couple days ago we signed our contract. So it's like,
this is our future. We built it for our family
and so like, and now we got it built to
where we can entertain, We have spaces for the kids,
and then we have people. Now we can have people over,
So I kind of want to That's why he said
take more control and take more lead, come over.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I got a full chef now that can that can
help cater out not only myself but for everybody else
as well. And so you know we did differs. Yeah,
but I want to do more of like a chill
like come to the crib. Maybe we will watch the game,
maybe watch some tape. You know, I got a good
setup to where I can entertain a lot more people,
and I want to take more control in that. And
(17:31):
you know it's my team. They pay me to be
that guy. Yeah, you know, so it's trying to take.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, act accordingly. Look on on our on our defense,
we do defense every defense, dinners every other Thursday, and
like it just goes from like the pecking order, og
pay you know the so now it's me the oldest
guy in the room. Pay the next time that it
just goes you know, from whoever on and then every
(17:58):
other week the d line will go eat you know.
So then so it's always just like camaraderie. It's always
like trying to figure out how I can what motivates
my teammates off the field, on the field, whatever it is,
so I can be just have that relatable moment like
in game if things get huge, it's like all right, bro,
Like I just need you to lock in with me.
Like we've gone through enough. I know enough about you,
like I know how to lock you in, you know,
(18:18):
like whatever it is. And I feel like those off
the field moments creates that trust and that camaraderie that
you sort of need to achieve success in the season. Yes, sir,
we'll be right back. So you being at the sex summit, right,
how does this How does this fit into your goals
of improving? Man?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Just I like to learn, Yeah, I like to see
see my already came.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I already got questions that I want to ask certain people,
and you're one of the people I wanted to definitely
chop it up with on just you know how you
I know how I break that field, right, But like,
what other tendencies do you look at when you you know,
when you're looking at a tackle, you're looking at an
offensive scheme?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Like what is what is telltale signs that you can
see on? Know?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You know, Like that's really what I want to get to.
You know, I'm not big social outside you know this
that you know, if I catch you, I catch you
just like when we play, y'all right, you know, it
was my moment.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
We had a little time.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I'm gonna go say, what's something told you know what
I'm saying, like, show my respect Clays. And I was
with Clays right and one thing he told me, Man,
if you really love this game, you gotta respect it.
You gotta respect the people who paid.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It for you.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So for me, it was like, I've always you know,
and I love the game. I always loved the game.
So for him to say that to me, so it's
like when I do play against another guy, I have
to you know, I respect you know, I respect the game.
I respect what you've done. Not a lot of people
have done what you've done. So it was a moment
for me to show, you know, show show, show, show.
My value to you is that I'm coming to get you, bro,
(19:46):
But I respect and I respect what you do and
I love it because I want to be there one
day and it's a club for a reason.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Come join me. I got it. I'm gonna puh, I'm
gonna push this bard over come on now, you know
saying like it, I know we all got goals.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Because because Ryan even showed me a lot of your
tape man, and so I've definitely been tapped in a
lot more so you know, I like what you do. Yeah,
I appreciate that, but I can't do what you do.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I mean there's a lot of news that you do
that I'm like, ah, but I know he got a lot.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Of masks to Yeah. Yeah. Ryan Newson came in probably
like year six or seven. For me, it was like hey, man,
mask kicks, and I was like, well say less got
begin But I mean it's crazy that you now you
got Ryan Nielsen. He's different as a decoordinator than it
(20:41):
was this D line coach. You get like the relaxed
Ryan Nilsen. Oh, Ryan Neilson D line coach hands on
twenty four to seven. I believe he like like he's
feeling the need to fire you up at every moment.
You're like, just take a breath, let me talk to
you over here. Let me let me talk to you
over here. So we don't have to we don't have
to have this, you know, because like you know, when
(21:02):
a new coach comes in, you know it's like he's
he paid away. It's like, hey, my way to the highway,
and I'm like, come to this highway real quick. We're
gonna make it our way.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah for sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
And that's that's real that you say that, because you know,
I know what I do best, you know, and what
I do best kind of doesn't it's not it's not
like what he's like teaches to do. So to have
that conversation, to sitting down with him, to have that
conversation coach, this is what I do.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Best, right, and but I do like what he did
help me out. He said, he said three different things.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Rush angles, you know, speed rush, got to change the
power angle rush, and he made me simplified. He made
me like made it so simple, give my power and
he can stop his feet.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
What you got? Office of the linemen are dumb so
liked it was like off the linement like they're literally cattle.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah what you do last?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Like which way did you go? George Liman in general,
and like there's smarter ones. I'm sure that can count
the three, but like, you know, real, it's like it's
like if you kill him with the speed, move one
one one, put one down, like you can literally just
be like all right, now here's my counter and right
like all they remember is the last.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Now that's it, and it's yeah, he told me. He
told me those things, and I was like, I want
to go train on my own. I'm like, he just
made it a lot easier for me. So when I
want to study, it's like, you know, when I watch
your tape, what angle is he rushing at? Especially if
we're playing against a guy that we're about to see
this year, I'm like, he works with the speed and
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what did his feet do?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
His feet kept his feet stopped right, So this.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Is my counter So it's like, you know, putting moves
that a lot of people do, but what move can
I do? You know, I'm a cross chop absolutely, side
sision is not my thing, right, but cross chop?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
How can I.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Threaten you to get the same reaction that you just
got to put him in this position?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
You know?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
So there's just things.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's the thing I stole myself swipe from, like Alex
okafort I becoming like whatever it is as I'm watching film,
like you know, my my arm over I've been doing forever,
but I took I took that. I took that power
move from from Klay's campbell. I'm like, oh that was
like after I was like to catch my home over
work and try and work and work back inside with this.
I'm never going to be a hump guy. But I
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can throw that. I can. I can try to throw it.
Like I still I still like different angles from all
different rushers. I look at Daniel Hunter and I'm like, oh,
that long arm killing crazy and that like he has
that that's like his chop is just like Berkeley down.
I'm feeling moves at every like as much film as
I watched. I stopped watching film on officeive Lineman and
started watching film on concepts, schemes and other defensive ends
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because I love I love the way you know we
rush or how you rush or how Trayvond rushes.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
When did you get when'd you When did you get
out of that? When did you get out of that realm?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Probably like year three, I was like so focused on, like, oh,
what's he doing? What's he doing? I could care less
what he's doing because it's like he has to work in,
work within the scheme. He has to work in like
if they're a pulling team or motion team, whatever it is,
he has to work in his confinements. And then again
offensive Lineman, like if they were if they were actually athletes,
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they would have played on the defensive side. And that's
like you'd be like, oh, man, he used to be
you know, he was a basketball player and now he's fat,
so he's an officsive lineman. Or like, oh he was
a detackle, he was at tackle, but then he got
fat and now he's a guard. You know, like if
you were twitchy, you would be on this side. If
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you you know, if you were as fast as they say,
you be on on this side. So I look at
them as just you know, they're like, oh, he has
great obstacles, obstacles like his one job is to hold
dear life for three seconds.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Do you know it's crazy that you said that, because
I look at these dudes, that's how can I get
him to this armslat So when I was here, when
I was here for the last summit and they had
me up there speaking, but I was so shock. I'm like,
I'm here bringing out my tape. I'm like uh. And
I was talking to uh uh justin Houston, and he
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was like, bro, you gotta work on you gotta work
on the arms. You know, on the arm sluds. You
better be on it every single day, every single day.
You gotta know what you do. You gotta trust what
you do, because right now I don't like you're trusting
what you're doing. You gotta go in there and trust real.
And I'm sitting I got you every day I've been
to this day, still do I even one at the crib.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I got my kids. I got my kids. I'm trying
to take. I tell him a kid, I say, hey, boys,
what daddy do for a living?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Sack quarterbacks? What y'all do for living?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Sack quarterbacks? So let's do it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Come on, we work, Let's work this car shot. I
get my oldest, I got to work with the eyes closed.
I switch it up on them. I poset and I
get back on. I got my second boy, he getting
corporate on it now, six years old, out there working. Yeah,
we get it. Because I feel like if I can
train them to do it, yeah, then I'm always keeping
it on my mind, you know what I mean. So
I think it kind of that's what I do.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
So it's like if I can do what I do
just without thinking, then it's like who can stop me?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
In my mind?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Because if you if I can't cross chopping, I'm gonna
runn your face right and start that and now you're
thinking about.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Me running out your face and gets back at it.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
So it's you know, everything got a plan in my mind.
But you know, run now to eighty five oh me
two eighty five dollars system.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, wal come on in, yeah okay.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
And I've been liking it. Okay, I've been liking it.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Look you say that until you like fifty snaps in
in that back they.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Talk, Josh, I know you like to play. Well, we're
gonna have to rotate you a little bit.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Okay, I'm like, I gotta feel it out.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So we argued about that for a little bit. But
I'm starting to understand the reason and this. But i
like to play.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And I got that from Kalayis Kalays he never want
to get out the game. I used to hate playing
behind class.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But Clays, I got you.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
It's ten players. I'm good, man, I'm good. I'm good
at the game.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Bro come on, man, let me get her up. But
but I feel like the longer I can get into
a groove.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You feel, you feel the flow, and you feel like.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I'm seeing how you see this?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Look at this hill he leaning on he rocket like
you know those are things I get when I'm in
the when I'm in the game, right.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
If I'm watching, I'm not, I'm watching this, D'm gonna
get at the ball?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I'm not. You know, absolutely, that flowed the game.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
It's serious, It's real. Now tell me about this.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You like you've had You've had rushers, but now you've
got Trayvon Walker on the other side. Uh, what have
you given him? So his game is like you become
a counterpart to him, you know, so they have to
worry about you and him, you know, the double tu
They got to work about Trayvon or you know whatever,
whatever he's doing. You know, if you guys suit sides,
it's like what are you looking at his moves? Or
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is he looking at you? Or it's like, how are
you guys rushing the korla quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I think it's a trust. I always tell him to
trust himself.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You know you didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
You didn't get here for no reason, you know, And
trust your process and trust your moves. You know what
I'm saying. Like I just told you, I know what
moves I know I can win on. I've trained it,
I've trusted it, I've instilled it in my mind and
body that I can work these moves and you and
not I can do it. Tray, you have to do
the same thing. You have to mold your body. What
do you do best?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
His get off? His get off is insane, Like.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Getting to point A to point B is probably the
best I've ever seen in person. You know, he's strong,
he's long. So it's just like, okay, you're fighting this dude.
Your get off is five yards, ten yards and two steps.
Right now, you on them because you just naturally like that.
How are you going to beat them?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Now? Like, when you get on them, what are you
gonna do? What's your plan? You know? Run down?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, well if he started that, then what's your next plan?
Now it's angles? So now if you keep running with this,
you know you your power angling them, But you get
him size scissors?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
How does that working?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You know?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So you gotta really you know, and there's been games
with Bro just consistently just blipping dudes, you know, because
he knows what he's doing, you know what I'm saying.
So I think just consistently like being on top of
him and helping him out because you know, I always
felt like, you know, I'm just got do this. By
myself but also be accountable for everybody else. But now
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it's like trade. But we've also had time with Trade.
You know that we know that they running a time
or then inside, all right, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I'm gonna quarterback flush. You know you really feed if
you step up, it's me. If if he flushed around,
it's got to be you.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Absolutely, And that's one thing with trade too, is like
having that trust with each other because it was it
all changed for me. We played Miami in the preseason
and we did a flush game and like in practice,
we did it and Trace stopped, like he didn't finish
the flush right, he just stopped, and the quarterback just
flushed out, And so it was like, bro.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And then in the game we did it, did the
same thing. He stopped, the quarterback flushed out.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So it was like it was like that moment where
it was like, no more, everything that we do, everything
that we changed for in practice is going to happen.
So let's not train bad habits in practice and walk
through and all the things that we do. Let's make
sure we're excellent and everything we do so when we
get into the game, it's even better or it's better,
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you know what I mean, like at least have that habit.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Of doing it.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
So you know, that's one thing that we just talk
about all the time, like in practice, like you know,
when we communicate, we communicate and the you.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Know, like yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Now, if you tell me you want to work some
you want to work something, I trust you, I trust
what you see, I'm gonna do it. And it goes
vice versas, but not only us but the interior as well.
Hey hey, I got an exit right here. I've been
watching on tape second and long. He likes this type
of like the kickset, so boom, that's gonna give you
a lot, hey texted texting or goose it or you
know what I'm saying. Hit that as because he's coming
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out to me, or we can run a quick exit
because he's bailing. So it's just like having a trust.
And that's where I want to get to. It's like
having a trust between the line that you know when
me and Clay's rush it said one thing, we said
one or two things to each other and it was
like sack because we trusted each other. He said something, Hey,
Josh's running text all right.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Cool, gotta run it. Boom, I'm hating it.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Text Sack, Hey, Clay's exit exit got you your fellow
boom exit sack.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So, but we had that trust and that was things
that we was hanging out outside the building as well.
So it's like we had like I want to bring
that officially to Jacksonville, you know, and I think we
got a lot of We got a good core now
people that's been there. Yeah, so it's like I know
what we get in into, and I know we can
be still don't know how to say you running rects
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last name, Yep, there we go, Travis t Yeah, them
become a core member of the team. That's only when
I have like Eddie and.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Like you never won. Oh man, let me let me
get you out of here. But think about think about
this when you're setting up moves right on the edge
to understand angles. It's a lot like hooping, right, It's
about getting your mad off centered. So like in my mind,
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if I'm on the edge and I'm like yo, and
like you know, when you're really teeing off, you have
two three sacks or you're just killing your dude, you
go to the sideline, I'm like, I'm hooping right now,
I'm in my bag. I heard you. I heard you
hoop back in the gap, right, got a little little
basketball to you. Does that Do you think that helps
you out to play football? Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, it definitely care But you don't want to have
that mindset at basketball mindset playing nobody.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's what I'm just saying, Like, for sure, the ability
to ice show, the ability to shift your weight to
shift angles, like you know when you exactly that band.
For sure?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, I mean definitely when I look at uh, when
I watched Vaughn you know, back in because I told
you I've been on the Super Bowl journey, right, so
when I watched back to the fifteen when he went
on that little run, he was the best player in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
The whole every game.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
And the way for him to work that bending keep
going full speed is just how do you do that?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
How do you work that?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
How you get to that angle? Like what was your mindset?
What was your what was your thought process? Like, what
what did you do to get yourself in that position
at all times? If that was that was a boom
because he was just power Russian and as soon as
he stopped his feet just running around. So it's like
that's the that's like you about to. So I can
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see it all relate.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I come from a basketball family as well, right if
you know my sister in w Yeah, so I watch
her a lot. Is she a big post player and
I love seeing her get in the post because the
idea get her post everybody back off.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
She working that.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Spill, you know what I'm saying, working come through, dribble, dribble,
cross pull up.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
All that all has a face because now when she's
backing them up, they gonna right, you know what I'm saying,
They stop their feet, she's spinning. They don't stop their feet.
She can keep backing up, go for easy lay. So
I think body position all matters.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
You having a power angle. I'm rushing you.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I just ran down your face. I might not I
might not a one, but you your face right now.
So now when I give you the same illusion, just
like you said, they dumb, get that same illusion. You're
gonna stop your feet getting ready to catch it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Now you can't recover.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So I think it dude, got a good you know,
I think that's my.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Foundations where it transfers over absolutely, Now do you agree
with You know, was that a month ago, a month
and a half ago when Austin Rivers hit everybody with
the there's more NBA player that could transfer over to
the NFL, the NFL, the NBA, And I was like,
that don't even make sense. Like that, we talk about
height differential and even then who, like.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I'm saying, who would like? Who would who could? Who
could play?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Who could have a successful career from the NBA to NFL?
Them dudes is huge.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
They're tall, bro Polo. I went to the Magic playoff
game man and I took a picture.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But I'm big, right, you know. I took a picture
about this dude. This dude is tall.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
How do you play?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Like?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
What do you play? What would you play? You play
tight end?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
You're dying, You're you're getting you that you can't one
over the middle. It's over any six seven and above
you at tight end you're just a red zone threat
or your your career is over.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
The boys not playing receiver, right, the boys not playing running?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
But who playing running? Look? I see basketball players like
like run routes and they look like buddy off of
off of American whatever, like the American bro, And I'm like, like,
it's just be upset, Like.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Man, I really got it like that. But guys can
really hoop like everybody we got hoping we got there's
some people in the in the NFL that can really
hold like and we the same size as them. Something
somewhat two.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Threes, you know, one two threes for sure translatable for
I'm not gonna lie to you. There's not twenty guys
that are six eight and above.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
And Trayvon shout out. The trade is a dog. He's
a whole trade.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yes, Travon Walker, He's a dog like dog in the post. Yeah,
you know, I used to be trying to hate because
like but then I'm really watching like I got it,
damn like big body and it looked good too, bro,
real smooth.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Okay, Who's Who's uh last? What I have for you
is who's the best dress on your team? Best dressed
game day, fits in and out, not just not just
oh he was killing the one week consistently.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
We got a couple of guys. We had a couple
of guys. Can I put myself in it?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
You can?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
If you think if you can definitely put myself on there.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
You know, I'm more of a classical you know if
you know, you know type of dude, you know, but
looking really clean. We got Roy who wears like a
lot of colorful, you know, suits and who can really
put it together, Big Roy, and you got.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Roy Robinson. Robinson, you got him.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
And then you got Andre Cisco, who's more of the
you know, the the retro or more up to date
fashion trends. He come out with some stuff I like, uh,
Kurt Kurt is like five Now that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Okays, the fit everything, thank you?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, Like I said that with shoe sizes, like, man,
you can't cut to me on know you wear team dude,
I can't wear those.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I gotta see. I gotta win my Zenias dogs just
to black sneakers.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I got the Gucci, I got, I got I got
with Zeni shoes, right, But it's all for the big guys.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Bro. Like it gets harder, it gets hard to drip,
and yet we find you know what I'm saying, drip,
don't drown.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
No, what's the hair do this year?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Bro? Man, I'm just too straighting up. Bro, I'm just
keep this saying light. I've been I've been playoff list
for for like three years. I'm focusing. I might even
chop it all off, just like I could kill all
maintenance work. But I'm I'm focused in. I'm locked in.
We're gonna make it real simple. I was gonna have
fun with it. I was like, bro, like three years
of no playoffs, you don't get to have fun. I
need to win a super Bowl like I've got. I
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got two years.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Left in this thing. You know, congratulations too, they just
get paid no extension, bro, Like yeah, congratulations though. Let
me know, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Like, give you a year fifteen, man, just slide in.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Congratulations on that too. But people with the same franchise.
You know, I'm trying to be right before.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Year fourteen coming in doing the Super Bowl, I said,
hopefully I'll see you there. Yes, I'm being that thing, Yes, sir,
but appreciate you, uh jumping on the pod. Shout out
to everybody who has made you the man that you
are today, because clearly you got your head on the
right way, and I just want to say thank you
for stopping by off the You me and your host
cam j Hey, I just like looking back at him,
(39:26):
to look back at you, to look back at him
Here we are on off the edge with me, your host,
Cam Jordan's and I'm just overly blessed, overly happy to
be here in Las Vegas at the annual Sack Summit,
which has become a thing now you know me, Von Miller,
Max Crosby, first collaboration. We're gonna take off from here.
But I'm sitting here with my guy, Josh Allen. When
(00:26):
I say paid is an understatement. We're not gonna put
numbers out there, but he just got paid this offseason.
We are so excited for him to join the show.
When I say pro bowler, we talk about Josh Allen.
When I say, you know a guy who had seventeen
half sacks this past season, a threshold that is hard
to get to. You know, there's been a lot of
seasons you can put together half ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen.
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Once you get beyond that fifteen, you get in a real,
real rare air and you hit seventeen half marks and
seventeen half sacks for the mark this is past season.
I'm just gonna say, congratulations on your success, Congratulations on
getting paid, Congratulations on everything you've done at this point.
And I know there's so much more, but I appreciate
you tapping in on the show to be here with you,
(01:11):
big bro. Yeah, indeed, and you've been to Sax some before, right,
I have eight years ago. I would say it was
one of them years. I was like all these all
these sex im start to blend together, like definitely been here. Yes,
I was it three years ago. And now you're coming
back you know where where it's bigger and better than ever. Uh,
sitting here at a hotel where we're about to get
active tomorrow, get some real work in. What are you
(01:33):
looking forward to? Uh? Communication?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Uh, blending with the guys, learning, growing, and also spreading
my knowledge and wealth things that I you know, learned
throughout these years that I could pass on to other guys.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Spreading wealth. Can I get a dollar wealth the wealth
of knowledge? I can help some money, you know, Okay,
no doubt, no doubt speaking of you know, just the
the success that you had, have you have you had
a big splurg Yet I know you got a fami.
I know you got kids beyond moms, and I know
you took care of the fam. I know you got
(02:09):
a wife. He probably got a nice purse out of it.
What did you get you? I got a new car.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh, we'll say double.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
R Oh I had to get it.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh big, big, big dog.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Okay, I'm saving that. What a driver? Oh does it
come with the driver? What does a double ar come
with the driver? You gotta sell you separately.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's easy. You gotta get it separately. It's easy to
get one, especially in jackson A lot of people. Yeah,
Jacksonville really small. Oh you boy, I'm not gonna lie
to you.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
When I first got to Jacksonville, my my big homie
Tyson Lulu was drafted. Was that twenty ten, first time
I ever got through Jacksonville. I was like, there's nothing here.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Nope, that's why it's easy to make people.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
No people. I mean, fourteen years later, it actually looks
like it's like a solid city.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, it's growing. It's definitely grown.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
With the new stadium being built too, then that's gonna
bring a lot more revenue, a lot more more money
in the city.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And then bringing the four seasons into our owner, bringing
the four seasons in and.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You got a four season in Jacksonville, were making one.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, So we're doing something man, And you know, hopefully
that just keeps growing.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And growing for us right right, You got my you
got my former d line coach Ryan Nilson as your decordinator.
Now you've had you know a little off season with them.
How do you like him so far?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I mean, so far, so good, you know for me,
you know, he called the first time. The first thing
he talked about when I talked on the phone was
he going forward. That's all I need to hear. Now,
put the ball in my court, let me be me
and we can do that. And I think it's the
conversations that we had. He kind of lets you, you know,
take a choke because I think in his defense, you know,
the ends right, need to be need to be elite,
(03:53):
you know, needs to be those guys. And where I'm at,
where my trajectory is going in my career, I can
only see myself going up. So if you allow me
to go right, trust me, then I'm gonna go. And
but now this year, man, I did that last year
by myself. Now it's trying to spread that well to
the others. You know, Uh, got Trey who's coming up,
(04:14):
Got Eric that's new, and we got a lot of
younger guys that I can kind of like, let's let's
do this a big movie like this.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You have the monster in the middle.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Now I'm already No, man, I'm happy. I'm happy kid
in the candy stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Sure, it seems like you guys got a strong collective.
You know, a couple of years ago they paid the
wide receiver Kirk. You know, they kept They're starting to
keep their own you. You know, Trevor Lawrence. How does
howes it make you feel? The organization, you know, wants
to love the players, wants to you know, pay their
loyalty towards players like you and Trevor.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I mean it means a lot. Uh, it means we're
going in the right direction. You know, things that haven't
been done in a very long time. You know, for
me to be the first you know, one hundred million
dollar player and or like in the whole organization. Uh,
it's kind of crazy, but it's a it's a humble experience,
and you know, I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But it's we're in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
We're keeping our top players, our best players, and our
core players as well, so we can continue to keep
building on that, keep bringing the younger guys up. That's
why we put these guys in these roles to I mean,
you play for the Saints, you had none but young
guys and build them up and now you see them
go here, go there. But they helped the organization build
as well. That's all I want to do. Put my
name on the map and never be forgotten in Jacksonville history, right.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Right, But I mean, just keep your core guys in there.
Keep your locker room integrity good too, like the vibes,
the ability for you know, in the season you want
to have adversity. You're going to have those wins by
twenty points. Some losses by threes that hurt way more
than a blowout loss. But that core locker room keeps
it going. Like, tell me about that, Tell me about
your locker room. How does it feel? Because you know,
every locker room is different, so I'm always intrigued to know,
(05:55):
like what is your locker room feel like?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Is there is you know, over you go, I don't
see any dancing or like, you know, now, we've got
a cool locked room. We got a lot of young guys.
This is one or two things that we I think
we need to implement this year moving forward to build
that team chemistry. I think right now, we too were
too blocked off, you know where we got one one
one group of like D line in one area, right
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old line in another area.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I think we need to mix that up.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Uh and just just know you know your teammates and
I think that kind of being I think that would
bring a lot more chemistry with each other offers and defensively.
But other than that, we got a young locker room.
We'd like to have fun.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Who gets control of the ox?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You know, I keep boom box?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay, you know, so I usually but I like the
old schools and so if I'm on it, you know,
I'm usually playing cards with the guys and I'm playing
you know, my jams and stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
What's old school for you, sir? You were born in
the late nineties.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
No old so I like, you know, I like like
a little Luther, you know, I like I like a
little like Big Luther music, soul child.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I like the vibe.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Bro. I like to keep it because we all we
go out on the field, we listen in that rap.
We go in the weight room, were listening in the rap.
You know, all this stops rolling around. Kind of need
it in the locker room. Just keep a nice chill vibe.
Everybody talking vibbing out. Like I said, we're playing cards.
We got a basketball hoop. You know, we got a
nice little you know, game room. Guys go chilling.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I got a game room.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah we do, like Jackson, what you mean like like
I said, we got it's like a little lounge, a
little lounge. We got piers fous golf simulator, ping pong table.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, come on, man, we got simulator. We're doing it.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Okay, Okay, I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I mean, uh, we know obviously you're you're you're a
leader on the team. You lead by example. What's it
like to have, you know, Trevor Lawrence, former number one
overall pick from Clemson? Uh? What is he like as
a quarterback? I mean when I when I came to
the league, I had Drew Brees and like so they
epitome of a leader. I know exactly what that looked like.
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You know, for you you come in and then you
get you get Trevor Lawrence, and he clearly is a
clear cut got to be a leader. The way he plays,
the way he you know, implements his style to the game.
What is he like as a leader?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
One thing that I can say about Trevor Man is
the consistency that he has with the routine. You know,
I think the more older I get is you know,
you have to have a routine, but you can't be
a robot to that routine. But you have to have
a routine. And I remember, you know, his second year
and he just wasn't playing as good every morning because
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we're like early birds, so I come in there heat
right there. So it's like seeing that every single day
from now, from then to now, it's consistent. You know,
He's always had the same demeanor of like we're gonna
get it. You know what I'm saying, We're gonna command this,
We're gonna take control, you know, but we just have
to keep seasoning the moments. And but so for me,
just to see him stay disciplined, to see him stay
(08:57):
locked in Lilliam State, trusted in his after what works
for him, you know, I like to see that. And
he's been doing that ever since. And I know it's
gonna pay off.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I think he's gonna have to you know, breakout year
this year, and I think he's gonna lead us the
right away and lead us to you know a lot
of victories.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Okay, okay, I mean yeah, that the AFC out there
scrapping y'all. Y'all, y'all heavy sets. Yeah we did.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, it's uh, it's just the d line though, you
know how the dy you know, the Battle of Trench
is really gonna play a part.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And I think the investments y'all made. The last time
y'all had success into into the playoffs was you know,
back when it was Saxonville. So like what y'all, what
y'all created with the addition of Eric Armstead, y'all have
potential get.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Back, get back to it, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Like it's like I said in the intro, you had
seventeen seventeen and a half sax this past season. Uh,
how do you talk this last season in terms of production?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I think, you know, I think last year, man, last
year was a difficult. It wasn't It was difficult for me,
you know, because I feel like I couldn't rely on
anybody else mentally. So it's like two people, three people communication,
no communication. I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna meet the
band in front of me. I studied the dude since
since since July, since June, you know, I know my
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matchup and I'm gonna work this dude in front of me.
And I think, you know, that gave me a lot
of success individually, but I think it kind of I
could where I could have spreaded that wealth all over
the line and build this person and build that person up.
I think it was just like I did it by myself.
Now let me see if I can do this, but
added add the value to everybody else, you know, and
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bring them to my level. I don't won't go to
nobody else's level. I don't want to bring everybody up
to my level. And obviously adding Eric, a guy that's
been played at the high level for so long, played
with guys that played at the high level, play with
Nick defensive play of the Year, so he knows what
that work ethic is and he knows what that competitive is.
So it's like, if I can bring that to my
other guys and take more control right there, this y'all
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far we can go as a whole D line now.
And that's why I say, like AFC South young quarterbacks,
you know, we got guys really throwing that.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Ball there, and who's gonna win up front? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And if you look at every super Bowl. You know
who who's taking over.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
The line heat and you see which one's gonna win.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And I told him that, right, I won't be the
best one. We're gonna be the best D line, and
we gonna be the best D line. That won't be
the best one. So you know that's my that's my
challenge for them, and you know they accept, They know that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
They know.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
They accept that for me, and I accept that for
them as well. Like Trade, Me and Trey talk all
the time. That's like my little brother, and like he
know and I know he knows I'm gonna be the
top dog. Te you got to come give me well,
he said, Josh, I'm gonna be top doll.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
We're gonna work. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
It's that competitive edge, man. We need to compete.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I want to be the best. You want to be
the best.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
We want to be the best together, and we keep
we got to keep proving it right. Everybody can do
it one time, everybody, Look you do it two times,
three times.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
That's where I gotta get the word. The world tries
to to crown people king over one year. If you've
been in the Lee long enough, I'm like yeah, but
show me three four years. You can do it three
four years. I believe in the height. If you do
it for one year, anybody can catch a lick. Anybody,
anybody can roll the dice and be amazing. Off one
roll show you can continue, you know, and you like
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that building like and the greatest thing about you just
said is you know like i'ma topped up but I
want you to come get me. It's like I used
to tell the d Lion. I'm telling d Lion all
the time. I like, Yo, if y'all can shine as
bright as y'all can, Like if y'all bring in everything
y'all do, y'all be amazing as you can, think about
how much more amazing I'm gonna look too, because like
if you bro, if you're if you're a sword and
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you're your sword and your sword everybody is what is
these gleaming swords call me excaliburate, like I'm gonna be
like I'm a king slayer. You know what I'm saying.
And you have to have that mentality in this game
so when you come to it, like I want to
make Brian Bezi the best he can be. I want
to be uh I want. I want to make car
grants and the best that he can be, because by
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doing that that elevates their play, which is gonna push
myself to work even harder. Sir, what did you what
did you do this differently? You know from years previous
to this break, this huge monsters here, you just had
staying locked in. You know, I did a lot more
reading this past year by my audio books. Uh, audio
books like actually books protecting football or just like mental
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mental mindset brooks, you know, being able to stay locked in, uh,
being able to control, you know, control what you could control.
So for me game days, man, I didn't listen to
any music.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know, I was really big on you know, if
anything was to happen, I didn't want music to be
the reason why I didn't perform, you know, or it
didn't I didn't play my song.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I didn't do this, just like little things. So it
was really big.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
On how mentally can I be in the game, Like
I'm mentally confident. I know, I studied this dude for
so long. I studied his offense for so long.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So if there was no music, how did you keep
your cane? A lot there?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'm just breathing watching a film a long time. You know,
I get in the dark room. So my first thing,
my people find me a dark room.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I get a dark room. I go in there.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I just chill out, control my thoughts, like in the stadium,
in the stadium, in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And so once you once you get to the stadium.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I find me. You know, my people give me a
dark room. I go in there, and you know, I
take a little nap. I read my book. First of all.
I read my book so I can like get off
of football, get off of you know, any feeling that
I'm about to feel and just have like a you know,
I got better off of reading, you know, and I'm
reading things that's that can apply to me in this game.
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So I'm reading these books. I'm taking naps. I listen
to a little jazz here. And I got that from Lebron.
Uh I got that from Brin. I definitely take that
from Bro.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And you stay on the first page, like no, I read, Okay,
I read.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'd be reading this uh Relentlessness by Tim Grover, and
you know he talks about three years of people you
got a cooler, cleaner, and you got a cooler, you
got a cleaner, and you got a closer.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'm a cleaner, you.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Know, cleaner, cleaner.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
What's the cleaner the.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Guy that do it right?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
You know, a guy that do it right half the time.
And you got the cooler, that guy that's just out there.
You know, I don't want to you know they talking
about clutch people. You know, clutch people come come in
clutch moments. I wouldn't be a player that come in
at all moments. And so if I can continue to
have that mindset, continue to challenge myself, continue to push
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myself in practice, first one on the field, last one
to leave. Really doing things that's applying myself to get
better during practice. You know, I do things pre practice
to get better during practice, and then I do the
things that after practice that I didn't do right in practice.
So every day I just feel like I'm getting better.
You know, I'm eating right. You know, my family, my
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family is situated. I make sure my wife is you know,
stable enough that if I'm not in the house with
covering my body, are sleeping in the type of barrick
that everything's okay. And make sure I spend time with
my kids and obviously tell them, let them know why
I'm doing what I'm doing. And also I take them
with me sometimes, so you know, making sure everything in
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my life is is what it's supposed to be so
I can play. That's why kids like we had to
chill out on the kids.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know, three three three is a plenty at it
gets to be a lot, especially in season.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
You know, wife, you need a date night, we do it.
They night, Tuesday night.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
We date nights tuesday'day night.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
You guys do like a defensive line dinner defense.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So again, so you know, un fortunately, we've been building
our house for three years and it just got finished
right before I signed my contract. And so prior to that,
I was like I don't know what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I was like, we're gonna sell it, We're gonna move here.
We gotta do this.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
And then we get our house done, and then a
couple days ago we signed our contract. So it's like,
this is our future. We built it for our family
and so like, and now we got it built to
where we can entertain, We have spaces for the kids,
and then we have people. Now we can have people over,
So I kind of want to That's why he said
take more control and take more lead, come over.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I got a full chef now that can that can
help cater out not only myself but for everybody else
as well. And so you know we did differs. Yeah,
but I want to do more of like a chill
like come to the crib. Maybe we will watch the game,
maybe watch some tape. You know, I got a good
setup to where I can entertain a lot more people,
and I want to take more control in that. And
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you know it's my team. They pay me to be
that guy. Yeah, you know, so it's trying to take.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, act accordingly. Look on on our on our defense,
we do defense every defense, dinners every other Thursday, and
like it just goes from like the pecking order, og
pay you know the so now it's me the oldest
guy in the room. Pay the next time that it
just goes you know, from whoever on and then every
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other week the d line will go eat you know.
So then so it's always just like camaraderie. It's always
like trying to figure out how I can what motivates
my teammates off the field, on the field, whatever it is,
so I can be just have that relatable moment like
in game if things get huge, it's like all right, bro,
Like I just need you to lock in with me.
Like we've gone through enough. I know enough about you,
like I know how to lock you in, you know,
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like whatever it is. And I feel like those off
the field moments creates that trust and that camaraderie that
you sort of need to achieve success in the season. Yes, sir,
we'll be right back. So you being at the sex summit, right,
how does this How does this fit into your goals
of improving? Man?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Just I like to learn, Yeah, I like to see
see my already came.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I already got questions that I want to ask certain people,
and you're one of the people I wanted to definitely
chop it up with on just you know how you
I know how I break that field, right, But like,
what other tendencies do you look at when you you know,
when you're looking at a tackle, you're looking at an
offensive scheme?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Like what is what is telltale signs that you can
see on? Know?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You know, Like that's really what I want to get to.
You know, I'm not big social outside you know this
that you know, if I catch you, I catch you
just like when we play, y'all right, you know, it
was my moment.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
We had a little time.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I'm gonna go say, what's something told you know what
I'm saying, like, show my respect Clays. And I was
with Clays right and one thing he told me, Man,
if you really love this game, you gotta respect it.
You gotta respect the people who paid.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It for you.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So for me, it was like, I've always you know,
and I love the game. I always loved the game.
So for him to say that to me, so it's
like when I do play against another guy, I have
to you know, I respect you know, I respect the game.
I respect what you've done. Not a lot of people
have done what you've done. So it was a moment
for me to show, you know, show show, show, show.
My value to you is that I'm coming to get you, bro,
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But I respect and I respect what you do and
I love it because I want to be there one
day and it's a club for a reason.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Come join me. I got it. I'm gonna puh, I'm
gonna push this bard over come on now, you know
saying like it, I know we all got goals.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Because because Ryan even showed me a lot of your
tape man, and so I've definitely been tapped in a
lot more so you know, I like what you do. Yeah,
I appreciate that, but I can't do what you do.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I mean there's a lot of news that you do
that I'm like, ah, but I know he got a lot.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Of masks to Yeah. Yeah. Ryan Newson came in probably
like year six or seven. For me, it was like hey, man,
mask kicks, and I was like, well say less got
begin But I mean it's crazy that you now you
got Ryan Nielsen. He's different as a decoordinator than it
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was this D line coach. You get like the relaxed
Ryan Nilsen. Oh, Ryan Neilson D line coach hands on
twenty four to seven. I believe he like like he's
feeling the need to fire you up at every moment.
You're like, just take a breath, let me talk to
you over here. Let me let me talk to you
over here. So we don't have to we don't have
to have this, you know, because like you know, when
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a new coach comes in, you know it's like he's
he paid away. It's like, hey, my way to the highway,
and I'm like, come to this highway real quick. We're
gonna make it our way.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah for sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
And that's that's real that you say that, because you know,
I know what I do best, you know, and what
I do best kind of doesn't it's not it's not
like what he's like teaches to do. So to have
that conversation, to sitting down with him, to have that
conversation coach, this is what I do.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Best, right, and but I do like what he did
help me out. He said, he said three different things.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Rush angles, you know, speed rush, got to change the
power angle rush, and he made me simplified. He made
me like made it so simple, give my power and
he can stop his feet.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
What you got? Office of the linemen are dumb so
liked it was like off the linement like they're literally cattle.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah what you do last?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Like which way did you go? George Liman in general,
and like there's smarter ones. I'm sure that can count
the three, but like, you know, real, it's like it's
like if you kill him with the speed, move one
one one, put one down, like you can literally just
be like all right, now here's my counter and right
like all they remember is the last.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Now that's it, and it's yeah, he told me. He
told me those things, and I was like, I want
to go train on my own. I'm like, he just
made it a lot easier for me. So when I
want to study, it's like, you know, when I watch
your tape, what angle is he rushing at? Especially if
we're playing against a guy that we're about to see
this year, I'm like, he works with the speed and
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what did his feet do?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
His feet kept his feet stopped right, So this.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Is my counter So it's like, you know, putting moves
that a lot of people do, but what move can
I do? You know, I'm a cross chop absolutely, side
sision is not my thing, right, but cross chop?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
How can I.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Threaten you to get the same reaction that you just
got to put him in this position?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
You know?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
So there's just things.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's the thing I stole myself swipe from, like Alex
okafort I becoming like whatever it is as I'm watching film,
like you know, my my arm over I've been doing forever,
but I took I took that. I took that power
move from from Klay's campbell. I'm like, oh that was
like after I was like to catch my home over
work and try and work and work back inside with this.
I'm never going to be a hump guy. But I
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can throw that. I can. I can try to throw it.
Like I still I still like different angles from all
different rushers. I look at Daniel Hunter and I'm like, oh,
that long arm killing crazy and that like he has
that that's like his chop is just like Berkeley down.
I'm feeling moves at every like as much film as
I watched. I stopped watching film on officeive Lineman and
started watching film on concepts, schemes and other defensive ends
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because I love I love the way you know we
rush or how you rush or how Trayvond rushes.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
When did you get when'd you When did you get
out of that? When did you get out of that realm?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Probably like year three, I was like so focused on, like, oh,
what's he doing? What's he doing? I could care less
what he's doing because it's like he has to work in,
work within the scheme. He has to work in like
if they're a pulling team or motion team, whatever it is,
he has to work in his confinements. And then again
offensive Lineman, like if they were if they were actually athletes,
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they would have played on the defensive side. And that's
like you'd be like, oh, man, he used to be
you know, he was a basketball player and now he's fat,
so he's an officsive lineman. Or like, oh he was
a detackle, he was at tackle, but then he got
fat and now he's a guard. You know, like if
you were twitchy, you would be on this side. If
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you you know, if you were as fast as they say,
you be on on this side. So I look at
them as just you know, they're like, oh, he has
great obstacles, obstacles like his one job is to hold
dear life for three seconds.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Do you know it's crazy that you said that, because
I look at these dudes, that's how can I get
him to this armslat So when I was here, when
I was here for the last summit and they had
me up there speaking, but I was so shock. I'm like,
I'm here bringing out my tape. I'm like uh. And
I was talking to uh uh justin Houston, and he
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was like, bro, you gotta work on you gotta work
on the arms. You know, on the arm sluds. You
better be on it every single day, every single day.
You gotta know what you do. You gotta trust what
you do, because right now I don't like you're trusting
what you're doing. You gotta go in there and trust real.
And I'm sitting I got you every day I've been
to this day, still do I even one at the crib.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I got my kids. I got my kids. I'm trying
to take. I tell him a kid, I say, hey, boys,
what daddy do for a living?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Sack quarterbacks? What y'all do for living?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Sack quarterbacks? So let's do it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Come on, we work, Let's work this car shot. I
get my oldest, I got to work with the eyes closed.
I switch it up on them. I poset and I
get back on. I got my second boy, he getting
corporate on it now, six years old, out there working. Yeah,
we get it. Because I feel like if I can
train them to do it, yeah, then I'm always keeping
it on my mind, you know what I mean. So
I think it kind of that's what I do.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
So it's like if I can do what I do
just without thinking, then it's like who can stop me?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
In my mind?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Because if you if I can't cross chopping, I'm gonna
runn your face right and start that and now you're
thinking about.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Me running out your face and gets back at it.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
So it's you know, everything got a plan in my mind.
But you know, run now to eighty five oh me
two eighty five dollars system.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, wal come on in, yeah okay.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
And I've been liking it. Okay, I've been liking it.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Look you say that until you like fifty snaps in
in that back they.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Talk, Josh, I know you like to play. Well, we're
gonna have to rotate you a little bit.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Okay, I'm like, I gotta feel it out.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So we argued about that for a little bit. But
I'm starting to understand the reason and this. But i
like to play.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And I got that from Kalayis Kalays he never want
to get out the game. I used to hate playing
behind class.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But Clays, I got you.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
It's ten players. I'm good, man, I'm good. I'm good
at the game.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Bro come on, man, let me get her up. But
but I feel like the longer I can get into
a groove.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You feel, you feel the flow, and you feel like.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I'm seeing how you see this?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Look at this hill he leaning on he rocket like
you know those are things I get when I'm in
the when I'm in the game, right.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
If I'm watching, I'm not, I'm watching this, D'm gonna
get at the ball?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I'm not. You know, absolutely, that flowed the game.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
It's serious, It's real. Now tell me about this.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You like you've had You've had rushers, but now you've
got Trayvon Walker on the other side. Uh, what have
you given him? So his game is like you become
a counterpart to him, you know, so they have to
worry about you and him, you know, the double tu
They got to work about Trayvon or you know whatever,
whatever he's doing. You know, if you guys suit sides,
it's like what are you looking at his moves? Or
(28:06):
is he looking at you? Or it's like, how are
you guys rushing the korla quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I think it's a trust. I always tell him to
trust himself.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You know you didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
You didn't get here for no reason, you know, And
trust your process and trust your moves. You know what
I'm saying. Like I just told you, I know what
moves I know I can win on. I've trained it,
I've trusted it, I've instilled it in my mind and
body that I can work these moves and you and
not I can do it. Tray, you have to do
the same thing. You have to mold your body. What
do you do best?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
His get off? His get off is insane, Like.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Getting to point A to point B is probably the
best I've ever seen in person. You know, he's strong,
he's long. So it's just like, okay, you're fighting this dude.
Your get off is five yards, ten yards and two steps.
Right now, you on them because you just naturally like that.
How are you going to beat them?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Now? Like, when you get on them, what are you
gonna do? What's your plan? You know? Run down?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, well if he started that, then what's your next plan?
Now it's angles? So now if you keep running with this,
you know you your power angling them, But you get
him size scissors?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
How does that working?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You know?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So you gotta really you know, and there's been games
with Bro just consistently just blipping dudes, you know, because
he knows what he's doing, you know what I'm saying.
So I think just consistently like being on top of
him and helping him out because you know, I always
felt like, you know, I'm just got do this. By
myself but also be accountable for everybody else. But now
(29:37):
it's like trade. But we've also had time with Trade.
You know that we know that they running a time
or then inside, all right, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I'm gonna quarterback flush. You know you really feed if
you step up, it's me. If if he flushed around,
it's got to be you.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Absolutely, And that's one thing with trade too, is like
having that trust with each other because it was it
all changed for me. We played Miami in the preseason
and we did a flush game and like in practice,
we did it and Trace stopped, like he didn't finish
the flush right, he just stopped, and the quarterback just
flushed out, And so it was like, bro.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And then in the game we did it, did the
same thing. He stopped, the quarterback flushed out.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So it was like it was like that moment where
it was like, no more, everything that we do, everything
that we changed for in practice is going to happen.
So let's not train bad habits in practice and walk
through and all the things that we do. Let's make
sure we're excellent and everything we do so when we
get into the game, it's even better or it's better,
(30:42):
you know what I mean, like at least have that habit.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Of doing it.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
So you know, that's one thing that we just talk
about all the time, like in practice, like you know,
when we communicate, we communicate and the you.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Know, like yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Now, if you tell me you want to work some
you want to work something, I trust you, I trust
what you see, I'm gonna do it. And it goes
vice versas, but not only us but the interior as well.
Hey hey, I got an exit right here. I've been
watching on tape second and long. He likes this type
of like the kickset, so boom, that's gonna give you
a lot, hey texted texting or goose it or you
know what I'm saying. Hit that as because he's coming
(31:14):
out to me, or we can run a quick exit
because he's bailing. So it's just like having a trust.
And that's where I want to get to. It's like
having a trust between the line that you know when
me and Clay's rush it said one thing, we said
one or two things to each other and it was
like sack because we trusted each other. He said something, Hey,
Josh's running text all right.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Cool, gotta run it. Boom, I'm hating it.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Text Sack, Hey, Clay's exit exit got you your fellow
boom exit sack.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So, but we had that trust and that was things
that we was hanging out outside the building as well.
So it's like we had like I want to bring
that officially to Jacksonville, you know, and I think we
got a lot of We got a good core now
people that's been there. Yeah, so it's like I know
what we get in into, and I know we can
be still don't know how to say you running rects
(32:01):
last name, Yep, there we go, Travis t Yeah, them
become a core member of the team. That's only when
I have like Eddie and.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Like you never won. Oh man, let me let me
get you out of here. But think about think about
this when you're setting up moves right on the edge
to understand angles. It's a lot like hooping, right, It's
about getting your mad off centered. So like in my mind,
(32:35):
if I'm on the edge and I'm like yo, and
like you know, when you're really teeing off, you have
two three sacks or you're just killing your dude, you
go to the sideline, I'm like, I'm hooping right now,
I'm in my bag. I heard you. I heard you
hoop back in the gap, right, got a little little
basketball to you. Does that Do you think that helps
you out to play football? Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, it definitely care But you don't want to have
that mindset at basketball mindset playing nobody.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's what I'm just saying, Like, for sure, the ability
to ice show, the ability to shift your weight to
shift angles, like you know when you exactly that band.
For sure?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, I mean definitely when I look at uh, when
I watched Vaughn you know, back in because I told
you I've been on the Super Bowl journey, right, so
when I watched back to the fifteen when he went
on that little run, he was the best player in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
The whole every game.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
And the way for him to work that bending keep
going full speed is just how do you do that?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
How do you work that?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
How you get to that angle? Like what was your mindset?
What was your what was your thought process? Like, what
what did you do to get yourself in that position
at all times? If that was that was a boom
because he was just power Russian and as soon as
he stopped his feet just running around. So it's like
that's the that's like you about to. So I can
(33:54):
see it all relate.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I come from a basketball family as well, right if
you know my sister in w Yeah, so I watch
her a lot. Is she a big post player and
I love seeing her get in the post because the
idea get her post everybody back off.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
She working that.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Spill, you know what I'm saying, working come through, dribble, dribble,
cross pull up.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
All that all has a face because now when she's
backing them up, they gonna right, you know what I'm saying,
They stop their feet, she's spinning. They don't stop their feet.
She can keep backing up, go for easy lay. So
I think body position all matters.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
You having a power angle. I'm rushing you.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I just ran down your face. I might not I
might not a one, but you your face right now.
So now when I give you the same illusion, just
like you said, they dumb, get that same illusion. You're
gonna stop your feet getting ready to catch it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Now you can't recover.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So I think it dude, got a good you know,
I think that's my.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Foundations where it transfers over absolutely, Now do you agree
with You know, was that a month ago, a month
and a half ago when Austin Rivers hit everybody with
the there's more NBA player that could transfer over to
the NFL, the NFL, the NBA, And I was like,
that don't even make sense. Like that, we talk about
height differential and even then who, like.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I'm saying, who would like? Who would who could? Who
could play?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Who could have a successful career from the NBA to NFL?
Them dudes is huge.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
They're tall, bro Polo. I went to the Magic playoff
game man and I took a picture.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But I'm big, right, you know. I took a picture
about this dude. This dude is tall.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
How do you play?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Like?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
What do you play? What would you play? You play
tight end?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
You're dying, You're you're getting you that you can't one
over the middle. It's over any six seven and above
you at tight end you're just a red zone threat
or your your career is over.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
The boys not playing receiver, right, the boys not playing running?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
But who playing running? Look? I see basketball players like
like run routes and they look like buddy off of
off of American whatever, like the American bro, And I'm like, like,
it's just be upset, Like.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Man, I really got it like that. But guys can
really hoop like everybody we got hoping we got there's
some people in the in the NFL that can really
hold like and we the same size as them. Something
somewhat two.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Threes, you know, one two threes for sure translatable for
I'm not gonna lie to you. There's not twenty guys
that are six eight and above.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
And Trayvon shout out. The trade is a dog. He's
a whole trade.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yes, Travon Walker, He's a dog like dog in the post. Yeah,
you know, I used to be trying to hate because
like but then I'm really watching like I got it,
damn like big body and it looked good too, bro,
real smooth.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Okay, Who's Who's uh last? What I have for you
is who's the best dress on your team? Best dressed
game day, fits in and out, not just not just
oh he was killing the one week consistently.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
We got a couple of guys. We had a couple
of guys. Can I put myself in it?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
You can?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
If you think if you can definitely put myself on there.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
You know, I'm more of a classical you know if
you know, you know type of dude, you know, but
looking really clean. We got Roy who wears like a
lot of colorful, you know, suits and who can really
put it together, Big Roy, and you got.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Roy Robinson. Robinson, you got him.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
And then you got Andre Cisco, who's more of the
you know, the the retro or more up to date
fashion trends. He come out with some stuff I like, uh,
Kurt Kurt is like five Now that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Okays, the fit everything, thank you?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, Like I said that with shoe sizes, like, man,
you can't cut to me on know you wear team dude,
I can't wear those.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I gotta see. I gotta win my Zenias dogs just
to black sneakers.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I got the Gucci, I got, I got I got
with Zeni shoes, right, But it's all for the big guys.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Bro. Like it gets harder, it gets hard to drip,
and yet we find you know what I'm saying, drip,
don't drown.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
No, what's the hair do this year?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Bro? Man, I'm just too straighting up. Bro, I'm just
keep this saying light. I've been I've been playoff list
for for like three years. I'm focusing. I might even
chop it all off, just like I could kill all
maintenance work. But I'm I'm focused in. I'm locked in.
We're gonna make it real simple. I was gonna have
fun with it. I was like, bro, like three years
of no playoffs, you don't get to have fun. I
need to win a super Bowl like I've got. I
(38:40):
got two years.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Left in this thing. You know, congratulations too, they just
get paid no extension, bro, Like yeah, congratulations though. Let
me know, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Like, give you a year fifteen, man, just slide in.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Congratulations on that too. But people with the same franchise.
You know, I'm trying to be right before.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Year fourteen coming in doing the Super Bowl, I said,
hopefully I'll see you there. Yes, I'm being that thing, Yes, sir,
but appreciate you, uh jumping on the pod. Shout out
to everybody who has made you the man that you
are today, because clearly you got your head on the
right way, and I just want to say thank you
for stopping by off the You me and your host
cam j Hey, I just like looking back at him,
(39:26):
to look back at you, to look back at him
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