November 27, 2024 • 42 mins
On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Cam is joined by three-time Super Bowl champion, Julian Edelman. As Julian approaches eligibility for the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2026, he reflects on what it means to be considered among football's greatest legends. Julian reveals where he keeps his Super Bowl MVP trophy, and Cam challenges him to recall the eight other receivers who share that honor.
Julian also discusses being one of the earliest athletes to build a personal brand through media. He explains how adhering to the “Patriot Way” inspired him to start his own production company and tell his story on his own terms.
Julian shares his thoughts on Tom Brady’s leadership during their playing days, praising his ability to uplift teammates while balancing his fiery competitiveness. Together, Cam and Julian discuss the pride and unique honor of spending their entire careers with one team, offering their personal perspectives on loyalty in the NFL.
In a fun segment, Cam and Julian play a game of "Versus," where Julian must decide which is better: LA or Boston.
The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeart Media.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Here we are Off the Edge with your host Cam Jordan.
I'm excited, you know, I just thought about this. I've
been blessed to have a lot of amazing people come online,
sit here at the pod, to have amazing listeners and
viewers tap in. I've been around this, this media space
for you know, the podcast space for about five six
(00:26):
years now, you know, to this second season all Off
the Edge, and I just want to shout out to
everybody listening. Thank you, you know, thank you for tapping in,
thank you for being you as a listener.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You're valued.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And speaking of value players, I'm go ahead and bring
in a man who is clearly valuable player. You know,
a slot receiver that's won at the highest level super Bowl.
You know, the man that may have seen not one,
not two, but like three super Bowl championships.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I just want to go to a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
A guy who has been a part of the New
England Patriots.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Is one of the you know, all dynasty team members.
Somebody who's seen the success on every level and is
of course media personality himself, and probably will see him
sometime during my bye week. A man who still leaves
the term athlete on his id bio. We talking about
Julian Edelman, big doll. Appreciate you coming.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
In, No problem, no problem. Thank you to the listeners too. Man,
that was a beautiful opening right there. Value for the listener.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I mean, that's a football guy right there. Got to
always display value.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Big team, you know, big team, little me. But I'm
just I'm just simply thinking, like, let's just talk about this.
You know, athlete in the bio, you still consider yourself athlete.
He's still like you still work out, you like that,
you built, you built for the for the game today.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I don't know if I could go out and play today.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
But I mean I have everything in my life because
of athleticism or athletics.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Uh so, I mean I'm an athlete.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I mean this meet of stuff now, but you should
see me on the Batmanton court.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I hoping you say so. Pick a ball, yeah yeah,
flick of the risks, catch.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, it's risks and elbow.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
UVE love that for you.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Speaking of, you know, meet the media part though, I mean,
what what haven't you done? You're on You're on the
Fox NFL Sunday show as a sports analyst. You know,
you you host, not one but two podcasts. Man, you
never stopped working, co founded a production company. You know,
Nuthouse Sports. I've seen you know on your ig you
(02:37):
got to riddle all types of like skits and everything
else from there, like it's it's entertainment at its finest
highest levels.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
It's been fun.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'll say, what what What inspired you to have your
own production company?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It all started with making short form content back in
like twenty eleven. Everyone knows playing for the New England Patriots,
there's a certain way you have to handle the media
when it comes to football and work. And this is
like the beginning stages of social media where you had
(03:12):
your own platform. And so with how I handled the
media as a Patriot, it was so different or it
was so difficult to show your personality and who you
really were off the field. And it all started with
making stupid smooth videos and I fell in love with it,
(03:33):
got comfortable behind the camera, loved the process of you know,
making something. You know, we started off with smoothie time,
then it went to burger time. Then we would do
produce these little Google glass videos and then it turned
into a thing where you know, you have a team
of people, you know you're behind the camera, but the
(03:55):
people behind the camera all working together to make this content.
You know, it's something that's been fun and it allows
me to be a part of a team still and
I enjoy it. So that's kind of like where it started,
and then turned into making documentaries and producing podcasts, having
(04:17):
you know, live shows. We did pop up shops, like
we were. I was like one of those first athletes
on social media that was trying to identify and make
his own brand instead of making other brands, you know,
more valuable, Like we were talking earlier in the show,
trying to bring value to me as a person and
(04:39):
then license my name to other big brands.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And il is hard. Okay, before there was nil, you
know what it is.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I wish we had it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Wish we had.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You see these gosh darn freaking player lots and at
the SEC rolling up better looking better than our player lots.
I mean I see like six seven, eight lambows.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, could imagine.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Being twenty two dollars with like five million bucks in
your bank account.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I mean it was I feel like it was still done.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You remember Terrell prior back in Ohio State days and
they're like stop coming up with new cars and he yeah, exactly, it.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Was a tattoo of maybe one car. But you you
roll up into these these player lines. Now, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Hell Cat packages everywhere, scot Pass everywhere. Oh well, Lampos
with the with the range rope. I couldn't imagine eighteen
nineteen years old with a range.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, when we were kids to young playing in college,
it was about like struggling.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It was about struggling, but it was.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
About like you had a sick TV like set up
and placed it because you were on you know, you
lived in the Section eight housing because you didn't have
money and you got extra money and rent was only
like seventy five bucks and that was your way of
kind of living fresh was you know, you had a
big stream TV and an Xbox, sweet speakers.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Now it's a whole different league.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, my biggest My biggest fear was did I have
enough to cover rent as well as the bills and
some like and enough money for a date. Boy, I
ain't even worried about that right now, what's the kid?
The five star kid that flipped from LSU to Michigan.
They're talking about it said ten million dollars deal. I said,
first of all, I said millions me in college I
(06:29):
would have I wouldn't have been a football player. I
would be like, no, So this is it for me.
I'm gonna go be a lawyer. I've started my own
law firm.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
It does sift out a lot of guys though. This money, right,
this new it's gonna make it harder for, you know,
guys to be great in the league. If you're gonna
have to truly love football now as a young athlete
to go out and basically have those blinders on with
all the money that they could make at such an
(06:59):
early stage in the life. You know, if guys can
realize that that's just the splash of what you could
really make, and if you just focus on football and
you win and you perform, well, all that nil stuff
will come on its own.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
When I was younger i first got to the league,
I said, look, I just want to put my head
down and work. And it wasn't the first or second
Pro Bowl that got me to a little bit of spotlight.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
It was like the third fourth.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Oh Okay, now that I've established myself as as a
great player, now I can actually like get some deals
coming in because I wasn't in a big market. You know,
it wasn't La New York. You know, Pat's winning Green
Bay because there's nothing else in Green Bay. You know,
I'm in New Orleans, a smaller market. You know, just
you have to you have to win as well as
(07:45):
have a personality as well as you know.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Be able to uh to push yourself in media. But man,
just just thinking a job, not that I mean, you.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Know shows you're still playing. You got five shows I
see year on our show and on Fox.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I mean you got a lot of great stuff cooking.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, because there's guys that you know, like the Mike
straight Hands that I've watched do it you who did it?
Which I mean you started you said back in twenty
ten eleven, which that almost puts you out like the
Vine days, you know, like and guys.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Think So I showed.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Content guys and TikTok, I swear.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
But did your meet a career like help you transition
from the game, make it that a little bit easier
that second phase of laugh.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
You know, I didn't know necessarily that I was going
to get into TV. Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I kind of parlayed a deal with with Paramount for
my production company, so I said, I would do your
TV show right out of you know, retirement if you
were to, you know, give my production company some funding
and also some office space. So I kind of tried
(08:58):
to parlay that. And then once I got on camera
and started doing it and hanging out with guys like
you know, Mike Irvy and ray Lewis, Jay James Brown
on Inside the NFL, Brandon Marshall. Like, I realized that
the stuff you missed when you were playing was that
locker room environment.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And you get a little.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Bit of that with the TV where you get to
talk old war stories with guys that you know from
different generations. Now I work on Fox and you know,
I got Charles Woodson, Michael Vic, Chris is Schrager, and
then you have the big team with you know.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Terry Howie, Michael.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And It and Jimmy coach Jimmy, and you get to
have those kind of locker room environments in the green
rooms with those.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Guys, and that's what you really miss.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I mean, I love I miss competing and you know
you'll never have that because your body's not the same.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
So you get a taste of that when you jump
in media.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And I had a plan I had a good team
around me when I retired, and I did a lot
enough stuff off the field, like I said, with social
media and creating content and where I had options after
I played. I think a lot of guys get in trouble,
you know, when they retire, when they have a lot
of free time, and they don't know how to handle
(10:18):
it because we're pretty much we're hurt animals. When you're
an athlete that's been a professional athlete for a long time,
you've been having the same schedule since you were probably
in high school, where you go to school, you go
to practice, you do homework, and then you do it again,
and the school is flipped when you're a pro with
you know, football school where you're studying and you're identifying
(10:40):
other teams and you're game planning, but it's.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
The same schedule.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So I think a lot of guys get in trouble
when they get in you know, when they retire, when
they don't have things to do afterwards. So it was
great for me to have a good team and a
bunch of things I was interested off the field that
led into my future after football.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Mike Tyson say, everybody got a plan to you can
punch in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Everybody swears they gonna play in the NFL for forever
and or I'll worry about it when it's done.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
But when it's done and there ain't nothing around now, what.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
You gotta You gotta keep your chickens, as Marshaun Lynz said,
and uh.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Take care of your mentals. Take care of your chickens.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Yeah, take carry your chickens.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, you got the You got the podcast with Gromp
and co hosts and Dudes with Dudes. When I when
I scrolled through the ig earlier, I was like, Dudes
on Dudes.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Dudes with Dudes is way better title, by the way.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Dudes, but oh, you guys also work on Fox NFL Sunday,
So like, how did how that go with your teammates
to to partners on the pod?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, No, Dues on Dudes has been fun. It's a
fun concept. Funny concept where we go out and we
determine what kind of dude each guy, uh is that
we go over. So there's five different dudes. There's a
dude's dude, there's a freak, there's a stud, there's a whiz,
and there's a dog. They all have their kind of
(12:09):
forms of how we think they are. A dude's dude's
a glue guy, a dog someone who's mentally, physically, emotionally,
just mentally tough. Stud is a guy that has pedigree,
he's always been great, freak, is a one of a kind.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
And then a dude's dude's a glue guy.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And it's been fun to guind of go over guys
that we played against, legends of the past and guys
that you know are playing now and kind of determining
what kind of dude each guy is, because that's what
you do when you're in the locker room and you're
sitting there with the homies with your five minute meeting
before the next or a five minute break in the
locker room before your next meeting.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
You sit there and you're like, man, do you watch
that dude on film? Man? He was crazy. That was insane.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That's what we all do when we're in the locker room.
You know, you're studying guys. It's kind of funny to
hear you're studying guy.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Uh yeah, you pair that up with my dudes on
dudes coming, and then it gets real real freaky. May
tell you you know there should be a six category though,
like there should there should be one like category, the
one b dudes, you know, like the.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Dudes that that that.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That talk like they want to be in the league,
talk like they want to be the guy, but when
they walk you like, I don't really see what you're
talking about. You know, the ones that like, I want
to live. You know, I'm a hard hitter, but he's
not really a hard hitter. The one that you know, frauds, fraudulents,
fraudulent activities of plenty.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, you know we could do that, but we want to.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You want to.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
We want to celebrate and uplift guys. Okay, in our
sport and other sports. You know, there's a lot of
there's a lot of place on the internet for bringing guys.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, just check just check x out. I want to
say Twitter, but yeah, if you want some darkness, go
to x excell. Let you know exactly what you never
wanted to be. We're celebrating, celebrate absolutely What kind of
dude would I be?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Then?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Man, dude, look at it, first team All Pro, bunch
of Pro Bowl, second team All Pro. You got a pedigree,
you could be just a straight out stud. Mm hm,
you know what I mean, you're a stud.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, I used to love that, jumping into a You're.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Already jumping into another workforce while you're in the other.
Like anything you touch you're good at. So I would
put you in the stud category. Eleven sacks on a
quiet ear for you, that's like stud right there. You know,
you get a fit in here. But man, maybe missed
(14:51):
a couple with the ankle. Morgan, he'll get nine and
a half, ten sacks, get a few and get a
five second.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Did you have like a six sac game one?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I remember watching four four, just four?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
I remember that. That's a stunt.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, I guess the Cantlanta Falcons, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Against the Vision rival. That's even better. People realize that's hard.
You guys see each other twice a year. That's hard.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
On Thanksgiving Thursday.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Hey, you're thankful for those four SATs.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No doubt. I had the wings and the legs. Give
me all four. Give me that. Did you get the
leg Oh yeah, you know I did.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You gotta get you gotta get the dry turkey because
it's been sitting there for like an hour. I said, yeah,
that that that turkey. You're trying to You're trying to
answer questions while you got you need to like they
need to at least bring some like cranberry juice or like,
you know, a little bit of sparkling champagne something something something.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Thanksgiving, I probably would have got a turkey leg, but
I was knocked out.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
After I got my.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I got obliterated reset button on a on a reverse.
But it was the butt fumble game. Remember the the
Mark Sanchez butt fumble.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, there's only one butt fumble game.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
That was on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Geez was it?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
It was in so we I scored a touchdown, like
a deep one, like a forty five yard touchdown.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Brady hit me on a blitz zero, then the butt.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Then we were kicking off, uh McKnight rip he mccordy
hit McKnight on kickoff.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
The ball popped up in the air.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I took the ball in mid air and ran it
for a touchdown. So we scored big touchdown that touchdown,
and then the very next drive was the butt fumble.
We scored like twenty one points and freaking like twenty
eight seconds or something.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
It was gnarly.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
That's Thanksgiving. That's that's a tease. What we have coming
next week for all you listeners. Thanksgiving is a very
fun day for everyone to have their platform and their
tradition of getting to play.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Football on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
All right, did you you thirty years Yeah? Yeah, I
chuck up Fall holidays as a loss. Anyways, I'm like, yo,
like all all the spring holidays that that's what Dad's
here for. That's what I'm here for, you know, Summer
for sure, and fall. Hey, if I'm there, I'm there,
and I'm gonna make the best of it. If I'm not,
(17:18):
I didn't expect to be there. I expected to have
practice on Thanksgiving. I expect to have practice on Christmas.
I'm trying to win. And if when it takes me
not being around for Thanksgiving a Christmas, that's all right
if you if you're good enough person, you make every
day Christmas anyways.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
But you know, I look at it also as what
kind of you know, when you when you're playing with guys,
at least where I was at, you're with family, their family.
You know, you spend so much goddamn time with your
teammates more than you do with your family during the
football season, that it's always super exciting on those holidays,
New Year's, Thanksgiving, Christmas when you had a practice here,
(17:58):
you had a game, and there was always some sort
of excitement. If it was a practice, you had your
practice on the practice field. Then you had short days,
so after practice you got to go home and spend
it with the family. It was just there was always
a bit of excitement I felt when it was a
holiday and you had to practice and you know, you
had a game on there and then afterwards you get
(18:20):
to go spend it with the family.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I just enjoyed. That's what we know as football players.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Absolutely bro I remember my younger years before we had
like our first couple of games on Thanksgiving. We would
practice on Thanksgiving and then we would have you know
practice early, like it'll be like a half day. But
after that practice, we had the Turkey Bowl where the
coaches would line up for you know, defensive coaches versus
office coaches for one play if it's either a stop
(18:47):
or go you know what I'm saying, Like it's the
if we had the boomboss going music playing, and the
guys loved it.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Look forward to it, look forward to it.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Nothing more fun watching coaches go out and compete against
each other.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Mother fuck them for their technique.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Hey, talking all types of craziness. You lock coach. You
said you sposed to shad coach. You are too high
on the right, right on the quarterback. You knew better
give me that double dick on.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
The release, get all give me a swine? Why daddy,
all those.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Caps are looking big, No doubt. Dan Campbell at tight end.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You know what I'm saying, Like back in his back
this glory day, run a little hunh, Sean Payton trying
to toss one tool. Meanwhile, you know got guys like
Brian Young pass rushing with like like, oh this giving
it man.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I love Brian. Remember you used to wear the double
helmet on the helmet.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yes, yes, you're doing the Guardian cap.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Cool exactly, That's wild. Did you should talk about team camaraderie?
This is like the loyalty factor? You know, he played
pretty much like the whole career with one team. Yeah, Like,
(20:03):
is that like a badge of honor? Because I feel
like I feel like it.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Is it is in this day and age, I think
it is a badge of honor. And I remember, you know,
when I was going through the free agent processes of
potentially leaving, we had something special, you know, and and
I knew that I may have got more money going
(20:27):
to another place. But you know, say you go to
another place, you get a new coaching stuff. In two years,
you're not making money. You know, you got a new
regime coming in. It's just you know, it's different. It
was always special when you when you were a kid
and you had your favorite guy that stayed on one team.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
So I do wear it is a badge of honor.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
And I'm very blessed and honored that I got to
be a New England Patriot my whole career.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Right, Yeah, I couldn't I say, I couldn't imagine you
anywhere else. This sort of felt like like you know,
not to down play, like like like the Wels Welker,
you know, like the Jerry Rice, the you know, like
the all Time Grace. You think of like one team
and all of a sudden he's on another, and it
just doesn't feel the same. Nomd Awesome Wall, you know,
like go to Philly, You're like you're the guy, and
(21:14):
then because you're on a different team.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Like, yeah, he wasn't old Namdi anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
That's what I'm like. Yeah, it's just like.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
We like it just feels wrong as a fan like
Brett Favre, because I was born in Minnesota, possibly for
the Vikings. I hated Green Bay all my life. And
next thing I know, he's dawning of Vikings Jersey. I
was disgusted. I stopped being a fan for a short time.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, no, I it's but it's also a different generation
and a different age with fans because of fantasy football,
and back when we were kids, at least when I
was a kid, fantasy was just coming around.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
But you didn't you know, you didn't know. You only
watched your team.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Now you know, I'll be when you were playing, you
roll into another city and then someone rolls up to
you and says, man, you got me eight points in
fantasy last week.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Thanks bro right Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I mean growing up, I did. I don't remember NFL
all access pass. This is the accessibility of it all.
You were locked in on your team, like your team,
like that's that's it. There was no you know, I
don't know if it definitely was at YouTube in ninety
five ninety six, like.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So where were you catching the highlights for the game?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So sports Center, Sports Center, I'm exactly top ten, if
you'll take it wasn't on it.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
That's it. That was it.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You see that SAT Sports Center clip five times?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
All right?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
All right? Man, Like at this point, I'm fourteen years
in with the Saints, Like could you imagine, like I've
imagined myself Donna in a different jersey, and I was like,
it's worth it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's what Like, that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Like all money isn't good money because like you said,
you got head coach changes, you're just going in and
now you're you're like, oh, he's just it him as
a OG instead of like an integral piece. There's there's
so many different ways you could look at it.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
But there's comfort, there's you know, there's comfort costs money.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Man. You know, if you want to go somewhere else,
you have to learn a whole new system.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
You gotta learn a new team. You got you gotta
learn new people in the building. Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You know, when you're with some place forever, you know,
for a long time, and you roll up and you
see our parking lady give you know a hub.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
You know everybody for five minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
You go into the cafeteria, you see all your lunch
ladies and lunch people. You know you're walking through the
tunnel and you see all Marv who works on the field.
You know, there's just a there's a there's a thing
about being with somewhere for a long time.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
That's just you know, it's special exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You know when when you're when your guy personnel guys
at him, you know, knows all the kids. You know,
Tyler Photographer's he's like, hey, if you ever need just
regular photos, just let me know.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You know, just like great people that you're gonna build
like a rapport with.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
In Boston, you get like a bunch of There's be
Mary Anne, There'd be a Shahleen gas pipe over there
down in the hall. You know, all these all these
Boston people. So you have a relationship and it becomes
part of.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Who you are absolutely life alone.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You know, since I don't have a Super Bowl trophy,
I'm just gonna ask you, do you where do you
keep your Super Bowl MVP trophy.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
It's in the studio.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
It's in the nuthouse, Yeah it is, Yeah, so we do.
It's we have if you watch our show, we have
a cool like wall of memorabilia through the years, which
was essentially just a bunch of that was sent to
me after I retired. Where you accumulate boxes and boxes
of things, as you know in.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
The locker room over years.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Uh, it was it was fun to go through that
and put it all on the wall for the show.
And and that's where that that that trophy.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Is dirty, dirty Tiffany's boy. I wish I got a
car though, And it was the first.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Year he didn't give a goddamn car for Super Bowl
MVP bla bro. And even though the cars get old,
I remember when I was a young player. You know,
Tom got an m VP and he had his like
his escalade uh in the parking lot, and it'd be
like five eight years old, but it was still a
Super Bowl car, like MVP car that held drive.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Dion Branch had a Cadillac Coop that he got when
he won one. So it was like a badge of honor,
you know, because everyone always.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Had their new cars in the lot.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But if you saw this like six five six year
old car, roll up in there and you're like, oh, what, oh,
MVP car, MVP.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Car, didn't didn't uh, didn't good old Tom by James
White a suo give him the Super Bowl MVP car.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
What I think he gave him.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I think he gave Malcolm Butler the car after the pick. Okay,
so I think, you know, But then Thom's had so
many of those things it's it's hard to track that
for accounting and tax reasons.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
So he probably just gave it away.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I don't want to deal with this and don't write
it down. Give it, give it to my dog.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You know, you're one of only nine receivers to win
Super Bowl MVP. You know this?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
No, I didn't know there was nine?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah? Can you name the other eight?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I know Jerry did it. I know Holmes did it.
I know, Uh Cook did it. Dion Branch did it.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
That's four. Who else did Lynn Swan do it?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah he did? Okay one historian over here?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Five?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Who else where? Steve Other said Stealers? Uh did I
say homes? I said homes right, yep.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
But you're missing one.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Another Steelers Hines.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
It was too I forget. So that's six. I got
two more.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
One of them became like an award, college award.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
One of them became a college award. What years?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Uh that is at the very beginning right after Lynn Swan.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Oh, that's one of those tough guys.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, Fred Blittnikoff.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Blittant cough, the blatant cough with the.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Fun exactly, ka boom. That's the only reason why they
might have then. Yeah, yeah, that's impressive. And Desmond Howard
and well, he was a kick returner mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
That was with the Packers when he ran, when he
housed it, You're.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Like, okay, you're not gonna claim him.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
We'll claim I'm a teamer. You know, I'm a part
returner too, so we'll definitely claim him. But like when
you think of Dejien Howard, I don't remember him.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
You remember him as.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
His receiver, but he always had such a lectrifying like
kickoff returns.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I remember that when that was in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
No, he's even fun.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And he was like remember him and Dante Hall back
in the day, do I joy.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Stick exactly you?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
And then but then they followed up with, you know,
possibly the greatest returner ever just a few years later
with with Devin Hester, and I was like, I was.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Like, yeah, I was like, nobody's gonna be better than Dteo.
Devin Hester showed up. I was like nobody's gonna be
better than Danteo, than Devin Hester and Corde Cordero.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Well, okay, you gotta put some love to Cribs too.
Josh crib a monster on special teams for a long time.
And I remember when I was at Kent State and
he was the quarterback before me at Kent State. And
when we go up to Cleveland, people forget how big
Josh Cribbs was. I mean he was on the sides
(29:04):
of buildings for Nike ads, like the guy in Cleveland.
Their only form of any kind of offense, and it
was on special teams, and they used to do a
bunch of wildcat stuff. So Josh Cribbs got to be
put in there too. For returners, Sharon Sproles was really
good at a punt returning. Jackson DeShawn Jackson home runner.
(29:30):
I just still see him catching. I don't know, he's
still catching seventy yard touchdowns. I think he just caught
another fifty five yard touchdowns. I don't know how let
this guy get behind you every time every time because the.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Sort and has like the deceptive speed bro like, and
you're just like, how is he that fast gliding glid?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I mean that's that's one of these God touch you
with that.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Speed, guy give you a little he just touched you.
Oh man, I mean with with your Lester's career, Like
you know, you're you're coming up on eligibility of you
know what that h O F how you like? You
know how what does it even feel to be like
mentioned in that same sentence because that's that's rare air.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
H you know, it's it's a it's pretty cool. I
mean usually it's a lot of negative talk if anyone's
talking about it, but uh, if they're talking about it
and even putting you in that sentence, uh, it's pretty
(30:37):
damn cool.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
But ultimately that was never my goal.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Uh when I when I was playing football, my goal
is the the hote of a Lombardi Trophy. And I
got to do that three times and playing four times
five I didn't play with my A C.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
L year.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
But you know, so like that's where I'm content. But
you know, it's an absolute honor that people even talk
about it because you look at the names and the
people and the guys that I grew up watching and
guys peers that I played with that have already gone
in like you know, those that's that's the cream of
the crop right there.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Facts you look at your postseason status, I mean postseason
stats where you know, your stats speak the loudest, third
all time in playoff res even yards third all time,
and playoff receptions, like you know, like it's it's.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah, it was a hell of a run. It was
a hell of a run.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Still gonna remember, probably one one of the greatest catches
in Super Bowl history.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
So like if we're saying, we're saying, you know, those
stats matter.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
I mean some would say that those stats matter the most,
but usually be winners.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You don't want three of them things lower.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Just you know, it was still cool to be a
part of that organization. I mean, I remember when I
got drafted New England. I was a huge Niners fan
growing up. Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Brent Jones,
Ken Norton and the success that they had when you know,
I was really young, and then they got the Super
(32:14):
Bowl in the nineties when I was pretty.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Much able to remember.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
But they were such a folk lore of a team
to our family. And then to get drafted to New
England and they had three Super Bowls at the time when.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I got drafted there and they were kind of getting.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
In that that like Niners, Steelers, Cowboys world of organizations.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
You know. It was like it was just like I
was pinching myself because I was.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Like, man, I'm on the San Francisco forty nine ers
of this generation when I first got there, you know,
with Tom Brady had the quarterback and you had the
coach they had, you know, Niners have Bill Walsh, we
have Belichack and the great defenses and the key players around. Like,
it was just it was such a cool thing to
(33:02):
be a part of. I'm you know, I'm really thankful
for that. I don't know if it's because of Thanksgiving,
but I just got so much thankfulness going right.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, Okay, So you had Tom Brady and come out
of out of a you know, Michigan, and I was
like seven round pick in his story, your story, like
the fact that you guys are are great teammates.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I was just thinking, like, is there you know, I'm
thinking of.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
The game last night when you watch you know, game whatever,
this last game where you watched Jameis Winston inspire the
Cleveland Browns to go rally past the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I'm just thinking about get your lesture's career.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Was there ever a need for Tom to give you
like a rally who rah, like you know with you
guys padded the success was there? Was there every time
I was like, all right, this one we knew, we
go kick it in gear. I just I just feel
like Tom Brady in my mind is always like business
as usual. Look, we're gonna we're gonna give me, I'm
gonna take the rock. I'm gonna give you the rock.
We're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah, you know, there's definitely been some stuff captured on
the sidelines of Tom being vocal, but you know, as
with Tom, there was a lot of unseen stuff, individuals
stuff if he knew you were having a hard day,
or he knew something was going on in someone's life
or someone need to pick me up. You know, it
(34:18):
may not have been around people, but he you know,
he'd walk you over and you know.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
See see what was up and what he could do
to help to get you better.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
And I think there was countless of those times because,
as you know, the NFL season is such a grind mentally, emotionally, physically,
and that's all just within the game, and the people
don't realize that you're a regular human being and you
have off the field and regular life stuff that you
have to deal with. Family, male family matters, health of family,
(34:54):
things of those magnitude and those things going on in
your life, which that's hard to juggle for young eyes.
And you know Tom was a vetro and I got
in there, so he was as he was always a
great guy that could you know, give me through his
experience advice. So he's he's always a guy that could
with a lot of guys, you know, with with anyone.
(35:14):
It wouldn't be necessarily in front of people, but he
would always kind of, you know, buddy up with you
in the locker room and kind of see what was
going on.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Mmm.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
I mean true leaders, leaders all, they all have different
ways of leading.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Facts. Facts all.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Let's let's transition to a little bit lighter talk about
a fun topic just because you know, now you're in
LA you've spent your entire career with Boston. Hit a
little East coast versus West coast lower here, but we'll
do a fun section called versus where you know we'll
ask you, I'll ask you a few questions about which
is better l A or Boston.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And as a fact, kid, we're gonna start off with
the important question better food.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Oh it's tough. I have to go l A. Yeah,
I have to go La.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Now if you want like unbelievable lobster oysters.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Italian.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Uh, Boston is really great, but I have a bias
because I come.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
I'm from California and.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I love Mexican food and the Mexican food out and
in Boston I found my one what is it a
hualastcos is pretty good.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
But just pound for pound thanking out here. I gotta
go with the Mexican.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I can't get the Italian of the East Coast, but
I'm a Mexican food guy.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I'd rather go on to Enchilada.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Oh I'm a Chili riano or carneacta fries. Every time
I hit the West Coast, I need the carneo fries.
They're not hitting the same in Louisiana. Nah, all right, no, Uh,
you're better restaurants.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Better.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
See that's a I like that difference of that question.
I would go with Boston. I have more fun and
I like the restaurant game there because it's a different environment. Uh,
you know, La, you go to the restaurant and seen
and see me. You know, sometimes you just want to
go have a nice meal with a couple of boys
(37:16):
in like a little little Brownstone under you know, an
establishment in Boston where you to hide out, get some
you know, oysters, get you know, so for restaurants. And
I love you know, Ken Oranger and his restaurants out
in Boston, a bunch. I got a bunch of friends
in that chef world in Boston. I'm gonna have to
(37:39):
go with Boston.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Better night life, la Yeah, easily, easily.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I feel like the one time I went to Boston,
I think they like they kept the bottles or something
like that, and they would like only like the poor.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
You know, you got to you gotta realize, you know,
I played for the Patriot.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
It's you.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
You're doing to do what you wanted.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
You could do that. We had a lot of wins.
We had a lot of fun times. I love the
night life in Boston. But some like, you go to Boston,
everyone's gonna be watching you.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You go to l a nobody caps.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Right next door, ain't nobody watching?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Nobody cares?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Too many sports teams, too many celebrities, too many flights
on the.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Street, you ain't going you see Tom Hanks and Pole Foods,
you ain't messing with him with me.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Better sports city as far as teams, fans and traditions.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Oh it's come on, It's titled town Boston.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
I mean I went to every damn championship there was
in pro sport. I played in Super Bowls, won Super Bowls.
I went to you know, the Bruins winning the Cup.
I've been to the Red Sox winning the championship, sat
courtside with the Celtics winning the championships.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I've been to them all. I've been to them all.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
You can't argue that better vibe I like.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I like the Boston vibe. Yeah, you know l A.
You know how LA is. Everyone's after here.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, but I's actingst They.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Might be a little meaner, but they're not meaner. They're
just honest.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Is that what you're gonna cover for them? Got it?
Got it?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Honest?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
But I tell you right now, you walk down the
street in Boston, you say hi to someone, They're gonna
look at you sideways.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
You do that, and someone's gonna be, oh, what do
you do this?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
That?
Speaker 4 (39:29):
But if you walk down the street.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
In Boston and something happened to you and you got
hit or some you were injured, you needed help. That
mean ass person that wouldn't say anything to you would
help you more than the person in LA would help you.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Mm hmm okay, solid right there.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
That's It'd be an asshole the whole time doing it, but.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
They would help you. How you running the street and
you didn't see it coming.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Oh yeah, I got a clear I got a terrible
Boston accent. I would never get it down.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
It's tough. Don't pronounce any r. It's like having.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's that's tough. Hey man, Well, I appreciate you, you know,
I appreciate you hopping on the pod. Uh, clearly, I'm
gonna have to come on your pod.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Dudes on Dudes with Dudes.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Games with Names, which is their fun podcast where we
go over historical games in all sport with someone that's
played in the game to get their perspective on how
they prepared, what the game yume was like, what the
celebrations were, what the pop.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Culture was going around during that time. It's a fun way.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
So if you want to learn about dudes and what
kind of dudes are, you go to Dudes.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
But if you want to learn.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
About games, and you want to talk about historic games.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
You go to games with names. Do your games? Which
one do you want? We got them both, great question.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I need to know what type of dude I am
or what type of dude I'm about to play.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
So I love that anytime you got all pros, you
got moles, you got Hella sacks, everywhere, You've been on
one team for one your whole career, Like, that's a
freaking stud.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, man, you know Steve Jordan, Cam Jordan's two teams
so far, you know, in New Orleans Saints, Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
So that's so, that's that's legacy too, legacy legacy. You
came out of a stud too. You know, horses you got,
You're part of that study.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
When you said pedigree, I was like, dang, yeah, pedigree,
pedigree applies.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah, I mean when you got I mean you came
from you came from one greatness.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Anyway, let me let me get you out of here. Man,
I appreciate you for tapping in.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Hey, this is off the edge with Cam Jordan's Man,
I've I've had probably more fun than I expected to have,
But who wouldn't When is Julian Edelman on the other side,
appreciate you guys. Uh out there again. I'm gonna ask
you to leave a five star review wherever you get
your podcast.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Uh, that's the It's Apple podcast. iHeart radio. Watch us
on the NFL YouTube. You know what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Things we want to go in with, continue greatness and
continue success. I got I got guys, I got friends.
I've got people galore coming on the pods over the
next few more, few more weeks, and we're gonna just
keep on rolling. So thank you for tuning in Off
the Edge with your host Cam Jordan.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Appreciate you juels all day.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Like and subscribe unfollowed, then follow again so we can
break algorithm. Comment and the comments Off the Edge greatness
a stud and Cam Jordan's
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Hell you helly
Here we are Off the Edge with your host Cam Jordan.
I'm excited, you know, I just thought about this. I've
been blessed to have a lot of amazing people come online,
sit here at the pod, to have amazing listeners and
viewers tap in. I've been around this, this media space
for you know, the podcast space for about five six
(00:26):
years now, you know, to this second season all Off
the Edge, and I just want to shout out to
everybody listening. Thank you, you know, thank you for tapping in,
thank you for being you as a listener.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You're valued.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And speaking of value players, I'm go ahead and bring
in a man who is clearly valuable player. You know,
a slot receiver that's won at the highest level super Bowl.
You know, the man that may have seen not one,
not two, but like three super Bowl championships.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I just want to go to a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
A guy who has been a part of the New
England Patriots.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Is one of the you know, all dynasty team members.
Somebody who's seen the success on every level and is
of course media personality himself, and probably will see him
sometime during my bye week. A man who still leaves
the term athlete on his id bio. We talking about
Julian Edelman, big doll. Appreciate you coming.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
In, No problem, no problem. Thank you to the listeners too. Man,
that was a beautiful opening right there. Value for the listener.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I mean, that's a football guy right there. Got to
always display value.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Big team, you know, big team, little me. But I'm
just I'm just simply thinking, like, let's just talk about this.
You know, athlete in the bio, you still consider yourself athlete.
He's still like you still work out, you like that,
you built, you built for the for the game today.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I don't know if I could go out and play today.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
But I mean I have everything in my life because
of athleticism or athletics.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Uh so, I mean I'm an athlete.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I mean this meet of stuff now, but you should
see me on the Batmanton court.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I hoping you say so. Pick a ball, yeah yeah,
flick of the risks, catch.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, it's risks and elbow.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
UVE love that for you.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Speaking of, you know, meet the media part though, I mean,
what what haven't you done? You're on You're on the
Fox NFL Sunday show as a sports analyst. You know,
you you host, not one but two podcasts. Man, you
never stopped working, co founded a production company. You know,
Nuthouse Sports. I've seen you know on your ig you
(02:37):
got to riddle all types of like skits and everything
else from there, like it's it's entertainment at its finest
highest levels.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
It's been fun.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'll say, what what What inspired you to have your
own production company?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It all started with making short form content back in
like twenty eleven. Everyone knows playing for the New England Patriots,
there's a certain way you have to handle the media
when it comes to football and work. And this is
like the beginning stages of social media where you had
(03:12):
your own platform. And so with how I handled the
media as a Patriot, it was so different or it
was so difficult to show your personality and who you
really were off the field. And it all started with
making stupid smooth videos and I fell in love with it,
(03:33):
got comfortable behind the camera, loved the process of you know,
making something. You know, we started off with smoothie time,
then it went to burger time. Then we would do
produce these little Google glass videos and then it turned
into a thing where you know, you have a team
of people, you know you're behind the camera, but the
(03:55):
people behind the camera all working together to make this content.
You know, it's something that's been fun and it allows
me to be a part of a team still and
I enjoy it. So that's kind of like where it started,
and then turned into making documentaries and producing podcasts, having
(04:17):
you know, live shows. We did pop up shops, like
we were. I was like one of those first athletes
on social media that was trying to identify and make
his own brand instead of making other brands, you know,
more valuable, Like we were talking earlier in the show,
trying to bring value to me as a person and
(04:39):
then license my name to other big brands.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And il is hard. Okay, before there was nil, you
know what it is.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I wish we had it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Wish we had.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You see these gosh darn freaking player lots and at
the SEC rolling up better looking better than our player lots.
I mean I see like six seven, eight lambows.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, could imagine.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Being twenty two dollars with like five million bucks in
your bank account.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I mean it was I feel like it was still done.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You remember Terrell prior back in Ohio State days and
they're like stop coming up with new cars and he yeah, exactly, it.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Was a tattoo of maybe one car. But you you
roll up into these these player lines. Now, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Hell Cat packages everywhere, scot Pass everywhere. Oh well, Lampos
with the with the range rope. I couldn't imagine eighteen
nineteen years old with a range.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, when we were kids to young playing in college,
it was about like struggling.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It was about struggling, but it was.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
About like you had a sick TV like set up
and placed it because you were on you know, you
lived in the Section eight housing because you didn't have
money and you got extra money and rent was only
like seventy five bucks and that was your way of
kind of living fresh was you know, you had a
big stream TV and an Xbox, sweet speakers.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Now it's a whole different league.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, my biggest My biggest fear was did I have
enough to cover rent as well as the bills and
some like and enough money for a date. Boy, I
ain't even worried about that right now, what's the kid?
The five star kid that flipped from LSU to Michigan.
They're talking about it said ten million dollars deal. I said,
first of all, I said millions me in college I
(06:29):
would have I wouldn't have been a football player. I
would be like, no, So this is it for me.
I'm gonna go be a lawyer. I've started my own
law firm.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
It does sift out a lot of guys though. This money, right,
this new it's gonna make it harder for, you know,
guys to be great in the league. If you're gonna
have to truly love football now as a young athlete
to go out and basically have those blinders on with
all the money that they could make at such an
(06:59):
early stage in the life. You know, if guys can
realize that that's just the splash of what you could
really make, and if you just focus on football and
you win and you perform, well, all that nil stuff
will come on its own.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
When I was younger i first got to the league,
I said, look, I just want to put my head
down and work. And it wasn't the first or second
Pro Bowl that got me to a little bit of spotlight.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
It was like the third fourth.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Oh Okay, now that I've established myself as as a
great player, now I can actually like get some deals
coming in because I wasn't in a big market. You know,
it wasn't La New York. You know, Pat's winning Green
Bay because there's nothing else in Green Bay. You know,
I'm in New Orleans, a smaller market. You know, just
you have to you have to win as well as
(07:45):
have a personality as well as you know.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Be able to uh to push yourself in media. But man,
just just thinking a job, not that I mean, you.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Know shows you're still playing. You got five shows I
see year on our show and on Fox.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I mean you got a lot of great stuff cooking.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, because there's guys that you know, like the Mike
straight Hands that I've watched do it you who did it?
Which I mean you started you said back in twenty
ten eleven, which that almost puts you out like the
Vine days, you know, like and guys.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Think So I showed.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Content guys and TikTok, I swear.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
But did your meet a career like help you transition
from the game, make it that a little bit easier
that second phase of laugh.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
You know, I didn't know necessarily that I was going
to get into TV. Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I kind of parlayed a deal with with Paramount for
my production company, so I said, I would do your
TV show right out of you know, retirement if you
were to, you know, give my production company some funding
and also some office space. So I kind of tried
(08:58):
to parlay that. And then once I got on camera
and started doing it and hanging out with guys like
you know, Mike Irvy and ray Lewis, Jay James Brown
on Inside the NFL, Brandon Marshall. Like, I realized that
the stuff you missed when you were playing was that
locker room environment.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And you get a little.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Bit of that with the TV where you get to
talk old war stories with guys that you know from
different generations. Now I work on Fox and you know,
I got Charles Woodson, Michael Vic, Chris is Schrager, and
then you have the big team with you know.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Terry Howie, Michael.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And It and Jimmy coach Jimmy, and you get to
have those kind of locker room environments in the green
rooms with those.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Guys, and that's what you really miss.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I mean, I love I miss competing and you know
you'll never have that because your body's not the same.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
So you get a taste of that when you jump
in media.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And I had a plan I had a good team
around me when I retired, and I did a lot
enough stuff off the field, like I said, with social
media and creating content and where I had options after
I played. I think a lot of guys get in trouble,
you know, when they retire, when they have a lot
of free time, and they don't know how to handle
(10:18):
it because we're pretty much we're hurt animals. When you're
an athlete that's been a professional athlete for a long time,
you've been having the same schedule since you were probably
in high school, where you go to school, you go
to practice, you do homework, and then you do it again,
and the school is flipped when you're a pro with
you know, football school where you're studying and you're identifying
(10:40):
other teams and you're game planning, but it's.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
The same schedule.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So I think a lot of guys get in trouble
when they get in you know, when they retire, when
they don't have things to do afterwards. So it was
great for me to have a good team and a
bunch of things I was interested off the field that
led into my future after football.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Mike Tyson say, everybody got a plan to you can
punch in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Everybody swears they gonna play in the NFL for forever
and or I'll worry about it when it's done.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
But when it's done and there ain't nothing around now, what.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
You gotta You gotta keep your chickens, as Marshaun Lynz said,
and uh.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Take care of your mentals. Take care of your chickens.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Yeah, take carry your chickens.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, you got the You got the podcast with Gromp
and co hosts and Dudes with Dudes. When I when
I scrolled through the ig earlier, I was like, Dudes
on Dudes.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Dudes with Dudes is way better title, by the way.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Dudes, but oh, you guys also work on Fox NFL Sunday,
So like, how did how that go with your teammates
to to partners on the pod?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, No, Dues on Dudes has been fun. It's a
fun concept. Funny concept where we go out and we
determine what kind of dude each guy, uh is that
we go over. So there's five different dudes. There's a
dude's dude, there's a freak, there's a stud, there's a whiz,
and there's a dog. They all have their kind of
(12:09):
forms of how we think they are. A dude's dude's
a glue guy, a dog someone who's mentally, physically, emotionally,
just mentally tough. Stud is a guy that has pedigree,
he's always been great, freak, is a one of a kind.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
And then a dude's dude's a glue guy.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And it's been fun to guind of go over guys
that we played against, legends of the past and guys
that you know are playing now and kind of determining
what kind of dude each guy is, because that's what
you do when you're in the locker room and you're
sitting there with the homies with your five minute meeting
before the next or a five minute break in the
locker room before your next meeting.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
You sit there and you're like, man, do you watch
that dude on film? Man? He was crazy. That was insane.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That's what we all do when we're in the locker room.
You know, you're studying guys. It's kind of funny to
hear you're studying guy.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Uh yeah, you pair that up with my dudes on
dudes coming, and then it gets real real freaky. May
tell you you know there should be a six category though,
like there should there should be one like category, the
one b dudes, you know, like the.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Dudes that that that.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That talk like they want to be in the league,
talk like they want to be the guy, but when
they walk you like, I don't really see what you're
talking about. You know, the ones that like, I want
to live. You know, I'm a hard hitter, but he's
not really a hard hitter. The one that you know, frauds, fraudulents,
fraudulent activities of plenty.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, you know we could do that, but we want to.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You want to.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
We want to celebrate and uplift guys. Okay, in our
sport and other sports. You know, there's a lot of
there's a lot of place on the internet for bringing guys.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, just check just check x out. I want to
say Twitter, but yeah, if you want some darkness, go
to x excell. Let you know exactly what you never
wanted to be. We're celebrating, celebrate absolutely What kind of
dude would I be?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Then?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Man, dude, look at it, first team All Pro, bunch
of Pro Bowl, second team All Pro. You got a pedigree,
you could be just a straight out stud. Mm hm,
you know what I mean, you're a stud.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, I used to love that, jumping into a You're.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Already jumping into another workforce while you're in the other.
Like anything you touch you're good at. So I would
put you in the stud category. Eleven sacks on a
quiet ear for you, that's like stud right there. You know,
you get a fit in here. But man, maybe missed
(14:51):
a couple with the ankle. Morgan, he'll get nine and
a half, ten sacks, get a few and get a
five second.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Did you have like a six sac game one?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I remember watching four four, just four?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
I remember that. That's a stunt.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, I guess the Cantlanta Falcons, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Against the Vision rival. That's even better. People realize that's hard.
You guys see each other twice a year. That's hard.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
On Thanksgiving Thursday.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Hey, you're thankful for those four SATs.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No doubt. I had the wings and the legs. Give
me all four. Give me that. Did you get the
leg Oh yeah, you know I did.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You gotta get you gotta get the dry turkey because
it's been sitting there for like an hour. I said, yeah,
that that that turkey. You're trying to You're trying to
answer questions while you got you need to like they
need to at least bring some like cranberry juice or like,
you know, a little bit of sparkling champagne something something something.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Thanksgiving, I probably would have got a turkey leg, but
I was knocked out.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
After I got my.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I got obliterated reset button on a on a reverse.
But it was the butt fumble game. Remember the the
Mark Sanchez butt fumble.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, there's only one butt fumble game.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
That was on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Geez was it?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
It was in so we I scored a touchdown, like
a deep one, like a forty five yard touchdown.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Brady hit me on a blitz zero, then the butt.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Then we were kicking off, uh McKnight rip he mccordy
hit McKnight on kickoff.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
The ball popped up in the air.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I took the ball in mid air and ran it
for a touchdown. So we scored big touchdown that touchdown,
and then the very next drive was the butt fumble.
We scored like twenty one points and freaking like twenty
eight seconds or something.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
It was gnarly.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
That's Thanksgiving. That's that's a tease. What we have coming
next week for all you listeners. Thanksgiving is a very
fun day for everyone to have their platform and their
tradition of getting to play.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Football on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
All right, did you you thirty years Yeah? Yeah, I
chuck up Fall holidays as a loss. Anyways, I'm like, yo,
like all all the spring holidays that that's what Dad's
here for. That's what I'm here for, you know, Summer
for sure, and fall. Hey, if I'm there, I'm there,
and I'm gonna make the best of it. If I'm not,
(17:18):
I didn't expect to be there. I expected to have
practice on Thanksgiving. I expect to have practice on Christmas.
I'm trying to win. And if when it takes me
not being around for Thanksgiving a Christmas, that's all right
if you if you're good enough person, you make every
day Christmas anyways.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
But you know, I look at it also as what
kind of you know, when you when you're playing with guys,
at least where I was at, you're with family, their family.
You know, you spend so much goddamn time with your
teammates more than you do with your family during the
football season, that it's always super exciting on those holidays,
New Year's, Thanksgiving, Christmas when you had a practice here,
(17:58):
you had a game, and there was always some sort
of excitement. If it was a practice, you had your
practice on the practice field. Then you had short days,
so after practice you got to go home and spend
it with the family. It was just there was always
a bit of excitement I felt when it was a
holiday and you had to practice and you know, you
had a game on there and then afterwards you get
(18:20):
to go spend it with the family.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I just enjoyed. That's what we know as football players.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Absolutely bro I remember my younger years before we had
like our first couple of games on Thanksgiving. We would
practice on Thanksgiving and then we would have you know
practice early, like it'll be like a half day. But
after that practice, we had the Turkey Bowl where the
coaches would line up for you know, defensive coaches versus
office coaches for one play if it's either a stop
(18:47):
or go you know what I'm saying, Like it's the
if we had the boomboss going music playing, and the
guys loved it.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Look forward to it, look forward to it.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Nothing more fun watching coaches go out and compete against
each other.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Mother fuck them for their technique.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Hey, talking all types of craziness. You lock coach. You
said you sposed to shad coach. You are too high
on the right, right on the quarterback. You knew better
give me that double dick on.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
The release, get all give me a swine? Why daddy,
all those.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Caps are looking big, No doubt. Dan Campbell at tight end.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You know what I'm saying, Like back in his back
this glory day, run a little hunh, Sean Payton trying
to toss one tool. Meanwhile, you know got guys like
Brian Young pass rushing with like like, oh this giving
it man.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I love Brian. Remember you used to wear the double
helmet on the helmet.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yes, yes, you're doing the Guardian cap.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Cool exactly, That's wild. Did you should talk about team camaraderie?
This is like the loyalty factor? You know, he played
pretty much like the whole career with one team. Yeah, Like,
(20:03):
is that like a badge of honor? Because I feel
like I feel like it.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Is it is in this day and age, I think
it is a badge of honor. And I remember, you know,
when I was going through the free agent processes of
potentially leaving, we had something special, you know, and and
I knew that I may have got more money going
(20:27):
to another place. But you know, say you go to
another place, you get a new coaching stuff. In two years,
you're not making money. You know, you got a new
regime coming in. It's just you know, it's different. It
was always special when you when you were a kid
and you had your favorite guy that stayed on one team.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
So I do wear it is a badge of honor.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
And I'm very blessed and honored that I got to
be a New England Patriot my whole career.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Right, Yeah, I couldn't I say, I couldn't imagine you
anywhere else. This sort of felt like like you know,
not to down play, like like like the Wels Welker,
you know, like the Jerry Rice, the you know, like
the all Time Grace. You think of like one team
and all of a sudden he's on another, and it
just doesn't feel the same. Nomd Awesome Wall, you know,
like go to Philly, You're like you're the guy, and
(21:14):
then because you're on a different team.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Like, yeah, he wasn't old Namdi anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
That's what I'm like. Yeah, it's just like.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
We like it just feels wrong as a fan like
Brett Favre, because I was born in Minnesota, possibly for
the Vikings. I hated Green Bay all my life. And
next thing I know, he's dawning of Vikings Jersey. I
was disgusted. I stopped being a fan for a short time.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, no, I it's but it's also a different generation
and a different age with fans because of fantasy football,
and back when we were kids, at least when I
was a kid, fantasy was just coming around.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
But you didn't you know, you didn't know. You only
watched your team.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Now you know, I'll be when you were playing, you
roll into another city and then someone rolls up to
you and says, man, you got me eight points in
fantasy last week.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Thanks bro right Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I mean growing up, I did. I don't remember NFL
all access pass. This is the accessibility of it all.
You were locked in on your team, like your team,
like that's that's it. There was no you know, I
don't know if it definitely was at YouTube in ninety
five ninety six, like.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So where were you catching the highlights for the game?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So sports Center, Sports Center, I'm exactly top ten, if
you'll take it wasn't on it.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
That's it. That was it.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You see that SAT Sports Center clip five times?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
All right?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
All right? Man, Like at this point, I'm fourteen years
in with the Saints, Like could you imagine, like I've
imagined myself Donna in a different jersey, and I was like,
it's worth it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's what Like, that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Like all money isn't good money because like you said,
you got head coach changes, you're just going in and
now you're you're like, oh, he's just it him as
a OG instead of like an integral piece. There's there's
so many different ways you could look at it.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
But there's comfort, there's you know, there's comfort costs money.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Man. You know, if you want to go somewhere else,
you have to learn a whole new system.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
You gotta learn a new team. You got you gotta
learn new people in the building. Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You know, when you're with some place forever, you know,
for a long time, and you roll up and you
see our parking lady give you know a hub.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
You know everybody for five minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
You go into the cafeteria, you see all your lunch
ladies and lunch people. You know you're walking through the
tunnel and you see all Marv who works on the field.
You know, there's just a there's a there's a thing
about being with somewhere for a long time.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
That's just you know, it's special exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You know when when you're when your guy personnel guys
at him, you know, knows all the kids. You know,
Tyler Photographer's he's like, hey, if you ever need just
regular photos, just let me know.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You know, just like great people that you're gonna build
like a rapport with.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
In Boston, you get like a bunch of There's be
Mary Anne, There'd be a Shahleen gas pipe over there
down in the hall. You know, all these all these
Boston people. So you have a relationship and it becomes
part of.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Who you are absolutely life alone.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You know, since I don't have a Super Bowl trophy,
I'm just gonna ask you, do you where do you
keep your Super Bowl MVP trophy.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
It's in the studio.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
It's in the nuthouse, Yeah it is, Yeah, so we do.
It's we have if you watch our show, we have
a cool like wall of memorabilia through the years, which
was essentially just a bunch of that was sent to
me after I retired. Where you accumulate boxes and boxes
of things, as you know in.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
The locker room over years.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Uh, it was it was fun to go through that
and put it all on the wall for the show.
And and that's where that that that trophy.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Is dirty, dirty Tiffany's boy. I wish I got a
car though, And it was the first.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Year he didn't give a goddamn car for Super Bowl
MVP bla bro. And even though the cars get old,
I remember when I was a young player. You know,
Tom got an m VP and he had his like
his escalade uh in the parking lot, and it'd be
like five eight years old, but it was still a
Super Bowl car, like MVP car that held drive.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Dion Branch had a Cadillac Coop that he got when
he won one. So it was like a badge of honor,
you know, because everyone always.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Had their new cars in the lot.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But if you saw this like six five six year
old car, roll up in there and you're like, oh, what, oh,
MVP car, MVP.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Car, didn't didn't uh, didn't good old Tom by James
White a suo give him the Super Bowl MVP car.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
What I think he gave him.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I think he gave Malcolm Butler the car after the pick. Okay,
so I think, you know, But then Thom's had so
many of those things it's it's hard to track that
for accounting and tax reasons.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
So he probably just gave it away.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I don't want to deal with this and don't write
it down. Give it, give it to my dog.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You know, you're one of only nine receivers to win
Super Bowl MVP. You know this?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
No, I didn't know there was nine?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah? Can you name the other eight?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I know Jerry did it. I know Holmes did it.
I know, Uh Cook did it. Dion Branch did it.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
That's four. Who else did Lynn Swan do it?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah he did? Okay one historian over here?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Five?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Who else where? Steve Other said Stealers? Uh did I
say homes? I said homes right, yep.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
But you're missing one.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Another Steelers Hines.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
It was too I forget. So that's six. I got
two more.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
One of them became like an award, college award.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
One of them became a college award. What years?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Uh that is at the very beginning right after Lynn Swan.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Oh, that's one of those tough guys.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, Fred Blittnikoff.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Blittant cough, the blatant cough with the.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Fun exactly, ka boom. That's the only reason why they
might have then. Yeah, yeah, that's impressive. And Desmond Howard
and well, he was a kick returner mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
That was with the Packers when he ran, when he
housed it, You're.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Like, okay, you're not gonna claim him.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
We'll claim I'm a teamer. You know, I'm a part
returner too, so we'll definitely claim him. But like when
you think of Dejien Howard, I don't remember him.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
You remember him as.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
His receiver, but he always had such a lectrifying like
kickoff returns.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I remember that when that was in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
No, he's even fun.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And he was like remember him and Dante Hall back
in the day, do I joy.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Stick exactly you?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
And then but then they followed up with, you know,
possibly the greatest returner ever just a few years later
with with Devin Hester, and I was like, I was.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Like, yeah, I was like, nobody's gonna be better than Dteo.
Devin Hester showed up. I was like nobody's gonna be
better than Danteo, than Devin Hester and Corde Cordero.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Well, okay, you gotta put some love to Cribs too.
Josh crib a monster on special teams for a long time.
And I remember when I was at Kent State and
he was the quarterback before me at Kent State. And
when we go up to Cleveland, people forget how big
Josh Cribbs was. I mean he was on the sides
(29:04):
of buildings for Nike ads, like the guy in Cleveland.
Their only form of any kind of offense, and it
was on special teams, and they used to do a
bunch of wildcat stuff. So Josh Cribbs got to be
put in there too. For returners, Sharon Sproles was really
good at a punt returning. Jackson DeShawn Jackson home runner.
(29:30):
I just still see him catching. I don't know, he's
still catching seventy yard touchdowns. I think he just caught
another fifty five yard touchdowns. I don't know how let
this guy get behind you every time every time because the.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Sort and has like the deceptive speed bro like, and
you're just like, how is he that fast gliding glid?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I mean that's that's one of these God touch you
with that.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Speed, guy give you a little he just touched you.
Oh man, I mean with with your Lester's career, Like
you know, you're you're coming up on eligibility of you
know what that h O F how you like? You
know how what does it even feel to be like
mentioned in that same sentence because that's that's rare air.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
H you know, it's it's a it's pretty cool. I
mean usually it's a lot of negative talk if anyone's
talking about it, but uh, if they're talking about it
and even putting you in that sentence, uh, it's pretty
(30:37):
damn cool.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
But ultimately that was never my goal.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Uh when I when I was playing football, my goal
is the the hote of a Lombardi Trophy. And I
got to do that three times and playing four times
five I didn't play with my A C.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
L year.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
But you know, so like that's where I'm content. But
you know, it's an absolute honor that people even talk
about it because you look at the names and the
people and the guys that I grew up watching and
guys peers that I played with that have already gone
in like you know, those that's that's the cream of
the crop right there.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Facts you look at your postseason status, I mean postseason
stats where you know, your stats speak the loudest, third
all time in playoff res even yards third all time,
and playoff receptions, like you know, like it's it's.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah, it was a hell of a run. It was
a hell of a run.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Still gonna remember, probably one one of the greatest catches
in Super Bowl history.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
So like if we're saying, we're saying, you know, those
stats matter.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
I mean some would say that those stats matter the most,
but usually be winners.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You don't want three of them things lower.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Just you know, it was still cool to be a
part of that organization. I mean, I remember when I
got drafted New England. I was a huge Niners fan
growing up. Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Brent Jones,
Ken Norton and the success that they had when you know,
I was really young, and then they got the Super
(32:14):
Bowl in the nineties when I was pretty.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Much able to remember.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
But they were such a folk lore of a team
to our family. And then to get drafted to New
England and they had three Super Bowls at the time when.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I got drafted there and they were kind of getting.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
In that that like Niners, Steelers, Cowboys world of organizations.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
You know. It was like it was just like I
was pinching myself because I was.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Like, man, I'm on the San Francisco forty nine ers
of this generation when I first got there, you know,
with Tom Brady had the quarterback and you had the
coach they had, you know, Niners have Bill Walsh, we
have Belichack and the great defenses and the key players around. Like,
it was just it was such a cool thing to
(33:02):
be a part of. I'm you know, I'm really thankful
for that. I don't know if it's because of Thanksgiving,
but I just got so much thankfulness going right.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, Okay, So you had Tom Brady and come out
of out of a you know, Michigan, and I was
like seven round pick in his story, your story, like
the fact that you guys are are great teammates.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I was just thinking, like, is there you know, I'm
thinking of.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
The game last night when you watch you know, game whatever,
this last game where you watched Jameis Winston inspire the
Cleveland Browns to go rally past the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I'm just thinking about get your lesture's career.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Was there ever a need for Tom to give you
like a rally who rah, like you know with you
guys padded the success was there? Was there every time
I was like, all right, this one we knew, we
go kick it in gear. I just I just feel
like Tom Brady in my mind is always like business
as usual. Look, we're gonna we're gonna give me, I'm
gonna take the rock. I'm gonna give you the rock.
We're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah, you know, there's definitely been some stuff captured on
the sidelines of Tom being vocal, but you know, as
with Tom, there was a lot of unseen stuff, individuals
stuff if he knew you were having a hard day,
or he knew something was going on in someone's life
or someone need to pick me up. You know, it
(34:18):
may not have been around people, but he you know,
he'd walk you over and you know.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
See see what was up and what he could do
to help to get you better.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
And I think there was countless of those times because,
as you know, the NFL season is such a grind mentally, emotionally, physically,
and that's all just within the game, and the people
don't realize that you're a regular human being and you
have off the field and regular life stuff that you
have to deal with. Family, male family matters, health of family,
(34:54):
things of those magnitude and those things going on in
your life, which that's hard to juggle for young eyes.
And you know Tom was a vetro and I got
in there, so he was as he was always a
great guy that could you know, give me through his
experience advice. So he's he's always a guy that could
with a lot of guys, you know, with with anyone.
(35:14):
It wouldn't be necessarily in front of people, but he
would always kind of, you know, buddy up with you
in the locker room and kind of see what was
going on.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Mmm.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
I mean true leaders, leaders all, they all have different
ways of leading.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Facts. Facts all.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Let's let's transition to a little bit lighter talk about
a fun topic just because you know, now you're in
LA you've spent your entire career with Boston. Hit a
little East coast versus West coast lower here, but we'll
do a fun section called versus where you know we'll
ask you, I'll ask you a few questions about which
is better l A or Boston.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And as a fact, kid, we're gonna start off with
the important question better food.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Oh it's tough. I have to go l A. Yeah,
I have to go La.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Now if you want like unbelievable lobster oysters.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Italian.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Uh, Boston is really great, but I have a bias
because I come.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
I'm from California and.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I love Mexican food and the Mexican food out and
in Boston I found my one what is it a
hualastcos is pretty good.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
But just pound for pound thanking out here. I gotta
go with the Mexican.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I can't get the Italian of the East Coast, but
I'm a Mexican food guy.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I'd rather go on to Enchilada.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Oh I'm a Chili riano or carneacta fries. Every time
I hit the West Coast, I need the carneo fries.
They're not hitting the same in Louisiana. Nah, all right, no, Uh,
you're better restaurants.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Better.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
See that's a I like that difference of that question.
I would go with Boston. I have more fun and
I like the restaurant game there because it's a different environment. Uh,
you know, La, you go to the restaurant and seen
and see me. You know, sometimes you just want to
go have a nice meal with a couple of boys
(37:16):
in like a little little Brownstone under you know, an
establishment in Boston where you to hide out, get some
you know, oysters, get you know, so for restaurants. And
I love you know, Ken Oranger and his restaurants out
in Boston, a bunch. I got a bunch of friends
in that chef world in Boston. I'm gonna have to
(37:39):
go with Boston.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Better night life, la Yeah, easily, easily.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I feel like the one time I went to Boston,
I think they like they kept the bottles or something
like that, and they would like only like the poor.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
You know, you got to you gotta realize, you know,
I played for the Patriot.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
It's you.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
You're doing to do what you wanted.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
You could do that. We had a lot of wins.
We had a lot of fun times. I love the
night life in Boston. But some like, you go to Boston,
everyone's gonna be watching you.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You go to l a nobody caps.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Right next door, ain't nobody watching?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Nobody cares?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Too many sports teams, too many celebrities, too many flights
on the.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Street, you ain't going you see Tom Hanks and Pole Foods,
you ain't messing with him with me.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Better sports city as far as teams, fans and traditions.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Oh it's come on, It's titled town Boston.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
I mean I went to every damn championship there was
in pro sport. I played in Super Bowls, won Super Bowls.
I went to you know, the Bruins winning the Cup.
I've been to the Red Sox winning the championship, sat
courtside with the Celtics winning the championships.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I've been to them all. I've been to them all.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
You can't argue that better vibe I like.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I like the Boston vibe. Yeah, you know l A.
You know how LA is. Everyone's after here.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, but I's actingst They.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Might be a little meaner, but they're not meaner. They're
just honest.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Is that what you're gonna cover for them? Got it?
Got it?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Honest?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
But I tell you right now, you walk down the
street in Boston, you say hi to someone, They're gonna
look at you sideways.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
You do that, and someone's gonna be, oh, what do
you do this?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
That?
Speaker 4 (39:29):
But if you walk down the street.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
In Boston and something happened to you and you got
hit or some you were injured, you needed help. That
mean ass person that wouldn't say anything to you would
help you more than the person in LA would help you.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Mm hmm okay, solid right there.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
That's It'd be an asshole the whole time doing it, but.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
They would help you. How you running the street and
you didn't see it coming.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Oh yeah, I got a clear I got a terrible
Boston accent. I would never get it down.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
It's tough. Don't pronounce any r. It's like having.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's that's tough. Hey man, Well, I appreciate you, you know,
I appreciate you hopping on the pod. Uh, clearly, I'm
gonna have to come on your pod.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Dudes on Dudes with Dudes.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Games with Names, which is their fun podcast where we
go over historical games in all sport with someone that's
played in the game to get their perspective on how
they prepared, what the game yume was like, what the
celebrations were, what the pop.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Culture was going around during that time. It's a fun way.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
So if you want to learn about dudes and what
kind of dudes are, you go to Dudes.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
But if you want to learn.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
About games, and you want to talk about historic games.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
You go to games with names. Do your games? Which
one do you want? We got them both, great question.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I need to know what type of dude I am
or what type of dude I'm about to play.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
So I love that anytime you got all pros, you
got moles, you got Hella sacks, everywhere, You've been on
one team for one your whole career, Like, that's a
freaking stud.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, man, you know Steve Jordan, Cam Jordan's two teams
so far, you know, in New Orleans Saints, Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
So that's so, that's that's legacy too, legacy legacy. You
came out of a stud too. You know, horses you got,
You're part of that study.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
When you said pedigree, I was like, dang, yeah, pedigree,
pedigree applies.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah, I mean when you got I mean you came
from you came from one greatness.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Anyway, let me let me get you out of here. Man,
I appreciate you for tapping in.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Hey, this is off the edge with Cam Jordan's Man,
I've I've had probably more fun than I expected to have,
But who wouldn't When is Julian Edelman on the other side,
appreciate you guys. Uh out there again. I'm gonna ask
you to leave a five star review wherever you get
your podcast.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Uh, that's the It's Apple podcast. iHeart radio. Watch us
on the NFL YouTube. You know what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Things we want to go in with, continue greatness and
continue success. I got I got guys, I got friends.
I've got people galore coming on the pods over the
next few more, few more weeks, and we're gonna just
keep on rolling. So thank you for tuning in Off
the Edge with your host Cam Jordan.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Appreciate you juels all day.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Like and subscribe unfollowed, then follow again so we can
break algorithm. Comment and the comments Off the Edge greatness
a stud and Cam Jordan's
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Hell you helly
Host
Cam Jordan
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com