This week on the Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Cam chops it up with former NFL wide receiver turned Emmy-winning broadcaster Nate Burleson. Nate shares how his high school days as a cornerback opened the door to his college career as a receiver, his wild stories from freezing games in Green Bay and Philly (yes, cayenne pepper was involved), and how he transitioned from the locker room to CBS Mornings and Nickelodeon’s SlimeTime.
Cam and Nate also dive into how the Saints can surprise teams this season, Spencer Rattler’s potential, and what it takes to stay locked in through cold-weather matchups. Plus, Nate opens up about finding his voice in broadcasting, the suits that gave him TV swag, and he and Cam play a game of “onside or offside.”
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome on in today it's Off Edge the podcast and
me your host Cam Jordan, and I say welcome on
it because I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Not only it's like week one coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Not only are we done with training camp, We're not
looking behind, we look in the head and talking about ahead.
I've got a great guy to come talk football with me. ALLEI, football,
a little pop culture, a little bit of everything. I've
got nothing but an extreme respect for this this man,
this myth, this legend who's taking football to a whole
another meaning beyond the grid iron, from his playing days
(00:40):
to being an analyst, to being colored commentary to hosting
a TV show to you know, hosting what.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Extra for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I mean, I don't know what you haven't touched, Nate
Burrow said, you know, just just appreciate you spent some
time a former All American at the University of Nevada.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You know, I appreciate it. I love I love doing this.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I love doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Thank you for the love, thank you for the intel.
I feel, the energy and the vibe. I appreciate you
having me on. You know, I'm a big fan of
you on and off the field, so it's only right.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I pull up, No doubt, look very familiar, you know,
just feels extended family everywhere I see you, and I'm like,
how's how's my.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Channel worth doing?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
You know what I'm saying, No doubt White, she went
to Channel in high school. She's always representing Arizona everywhere
she go to run.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
A joke in the house is I know Mom, I know, Mom,
Arizona does it better. She truly does feel that way.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Hey, It's true, nobody, absolutely, I see town's finest. I mean,
there's a few of us that got out and we
hold us down, you know, back home properly.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, y'all do y'all represent y'all well.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Before we get to anything, I have to say this,
and I gotta say it on camp because I appreciate
you for it. I reached out to you because my
son switched positions from tight end to d N and
I was like, Yo, I need some pointers and he's
trying to learn the position. And just like you do,
always willing to help somebody, you reached out, reached back
out right away. You gave some notes, some tips, some nuggets,
(02:10):
and then you said some clips. You were like, have
them look at these clips and anything else you need
holler at me.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I sent that right to them. So I just want
to say I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Know, in this brotherhood there's people that live by it
and ride by it, and they really truly do act
like brothers. So I appreciate you showing up for my
family like it's your family.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Hey, look, if if I got access, if my son
ever wants to be like a wide receiver, I know
exactly you mar Jo's keithon Ally, if I need a quarterback, Jared.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Like I'm using it.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Like if we work this hard not to have the connection,
you ain't everybody else does. So I'm not gonna be
shy about it. I'm gonna set my ego aside. I'm
gonna reach out.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
To my brethren.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I mean, not that you need them with your with
your resume, I mean you probably you probably played a
little safety back in the little corner man.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I'm all state cornerback and wide receiver, so on both
sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You know what I mean. That's now.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I was the knucklehead when I caught the ball and
never wanted to go out of bounds because I kind
of lightweight, wanted to smoke. I wanted to hit until
I got a little bit too old, and then hits
started to slow me down.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You remember when when you were young and we.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Were invincible, You remember that, Like, listen, I still feel
that way. I know you do, and I try. I'm
not trying to say you old. I'm saying you're older.
But the mindset at least now you're hyper aware of
your body and you know.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Like what is going to keep you on the field
and what can take you out.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
When we first got in the game, bro, it didn't
matter what they threw my way. I'm like, I'm bouncing back.
They're like, now you're gonna be out four weeks. I'm like,
I'll be back here for days. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Right? No?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, see see with science as it is now, you know,
with the now.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Hey, I've still only missed two games in my entire year.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You're you're an anomaly though, You're you're an outlier when
it comes to the rest of us.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So what so if you played defense in high school,
what made you toward turned towards just being a pure
bride receiver covering out eleven year eleven year NFL career.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, you know, listen.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I didn't mind playing cornerback, but there was something about
the position of wide receiver where I felt like I
had more opportunities to be the hero, and at cornerback
you have more opportunities to be the villain because even
if you make player after player at the play.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
You give up that big one. People are on your neck.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
And for me, as a young kid, I was fifteen,
sixteen seventeen, I was thinking about staying out of the
headlines for the wrong reasons and being the guy they
praised for the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And I remember my senior year.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We were a running school, so I had like sixteen catches,
but seven of them with for touchdowns. So there were
schools that were looking at me and they're like, we
feel like he's a good wide receiver, we just don't
have enough on tape. Now we know he's a good corner,
solid height, almost six to two. He hasn't been scored
on all senior year. He could jump through the gym,
so what are we going to recruit him as? So
(05:00):
some teams came in there like, look, we'll recruit you
as both, but we want you to play corner. And
then Nevada out of all the teams that were recruiting me.
They sat in my living room and I remember the
coach was like, so.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So, how many catches you have this year? This is
my senior year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I'm doing my final round of meeting with the coaches,
and I'm like sixteen something like that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
He's like, We'll get you that in one game, son,
And I'm like, huh.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
He's like, man, we were top five and passing this year,
number four and passing last year.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
We throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I promise you if you come to Nevada, we will
get you sixteen catches in a game.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And I'm like, damn.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
So showing up three years later against San Jose, say
that at nineteen catches.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
They threw the ball to me twenty one times.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So they held their word because you know, once they
told me that, I said, oh, it's a rap. Why
am I going anywhere else? I don't even know what
it feels like to get the ball thrown on me
that much.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I need to be at Nevada.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Look come going from going from Seattle to Noveda.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah you was.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You was sixty five degrees year round, man, cloudy, overcast,
luscious green, everywhere to Nevada.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
You, yeah, University of Nevada.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, and where you can't breathe can't where it gets
super hot because it's desert, and then super cold because
the mountains are nearby. It's not like Vegas, where it's
hot all the time. It's a little bit different. So
I was getting used to that. You know what's that
cold weather came around. I was like, oh, boy, if
I ever get the chance to make it in the league,
I hope I don't go to a cold weather location.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
And then Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You said, just like that, I'm going third round.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Let me.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Let me. Let me go over to the borough of
the cold Factory and the grab a shoot jackets. I'm
on my way, many.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I don't know nothing about that. I don't want no
part of cold. I don't even like my air conditioning
hidden under seventy. That's why i'd excuse you who touched
a thermostat.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Okay, but but how do you Okay, so how do
you get your mind right for those cold weather games?
Because listen, personally, personally, you don't want to live in
cold weather, and people act like, oh, because you're a
football player, you guys are impervious to the weather.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
No, no, no, hold all the time. Hold.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Weather games are terrible, don't I don't care if it
looks like a classic NFL Films episode.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It's cold. So my question to you is.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
How did you prepare your mind for those whole weather
games when you have to play outside?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Honestly, I was blessed by Jesus as a chosen child.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Crazy right now, Cam.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It took me to bro. It took me to year
well to play in a snow game.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I started playing at thirteen. I was thirty two or
thirty three by the time I played my first snow game.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Chose because that's what I'm saying, Bro.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Because of that game alone, I picked up the family
and I moved to Spain as soon as season was over.
That game happened from New Year's that happened Christmas Eve whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
What was that twenty three? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
We played the trash Cleveland, the Cleveland Browns. And when
I tell you that frozen negative like thirty eight with
the windshield, I went from like like just a oh
I played in a forty degree game. I was like, no,
ain't cold it it could it could snow today and
then it's like the sun comes out, the sky clears up,
and I was like, you know, like I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I didn't get that in Cleveland. Cleveland, it was snowing
when we.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Landed, it was snowing through and they're like, no, it's
going to warm up game day. I was like, okay,
it's going to warm up. Should be hopefully thirty.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I can do that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I'm into the COLTEB before I get into COTEB once
a year before the playoffs. That's the only time you'll
see me in the cotub with the D line because
of the D line. Other than that, I walk into
Cleveland and when I tell you, nothing prepared me for
that day, Like the wind ripped through whatever I was wearing,
touched my soul. My soul looked at myself and said,
(08:52):
are we really doing this dumb stuff? And I got angry,
like and I'm normally a happy, jovial menace, like I
want to be a minister society.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
This took me to a whole nother place.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
This was like dark.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I'm speaking like Morrow, so angry. We hit Nick Chubb,
and Nick Chubb is a great dude. I push off
of them off the ground. I'm like, this is stupid.
I'm on at Deshaun Watson. You said this was legendary.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
This is trash.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
You lie.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And he's over here looking at me, like what are
you talking about? We said a text message, probably the
season before we're thinking about recruiting. I'm like, I'm like, hey, bro,
you might want to.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Check it out here, you know what I'm saying before
you make your move.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And he was like, yo, I gotta do something legendary
and he got to pull the guaranteed job.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And I was like, this ain't legendary. You're a liar.
I'm good for you.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Like it doesn't make you mad for real, Like it
changes your whole personality, bro, Like especially like listen, you
can let certain stuff slide on a weather a regular
weather day, like an extra shove or somebody does something
on a pile or go your way.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's almost like I'm playing football, getting paid a ton
of money.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I'll see your next play when it's whole.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
If somebody that's something to annoy You're like, bro, I
like what we want to kill you right now, but I can't.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
All the way No, No, I'm going to get my get
back next play bro. Like I said, I'm mushing guys
off the ground like this stupid like getting up like
and I normally would.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Like that person.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, no doubt so so so are you?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Are you like me or at least how I was
a lot of dudes when we would get the lock
the schedule like this is when like we would get
it by paper in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I'm dating myself, but it's oh three and like the like.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Hardcore like lost in the season already football players. They
was thinking about like specific matchups and I'm gonna face
this dude that I hate and I can't wait to
score here and all me receiver, I was.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Like this, Oh, oh we got Miami in December. Oh
we got Green Band September.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Okay, oh we got we got La Like it was
for me. All I was thinking about was weather. I
didn't care about the defenses, the skis, the coaches, the players.
I went through the schedule.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And I'm like, that's that's crazy, kind of cold back
to one. That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
That said, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You had Green Bay Facts in Chicago, you know Chicago
nasty and certain.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Well don't I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I catch them early I always.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Did you catch them early? That's true?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I mean is there field trash?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah, build his trash, feel this trash, But don't you
rather have that or field turf?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I love turf.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I'm on I'm on the fence side of I love
turf because the most important thing for me is my
get off and on grass. Guess what flies first when
you're really trying to get out your first grass?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Of what that first step be? Got slipped?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Like? Yeah, I like turf. There's a lot of there's
a yeah, not practicing it.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But a lot of guys they don't feel that, especially
out of here in New York.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
They feel got the worst of the worst. I don't
really know, you know what I'm saying. I can't. I
came in when I had a little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Of turf and like straight up old school carpet turf
at Metro Dome in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
We was running.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It was it was a thin layer of carpet on
top of hardcore concrete.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I'm not gonna now it hurt when you need to grab,
but I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Once you got up the full speed, you are burning
and turning, rolling, rolling.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I want to see your best eleven versus my best
eleven and then turf gives you the best chance. Grass
fat people like grass, office Aligneman love grass.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Slot like oh man, a little bigger down in there,
grabbing on it outside of your shoulder.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Past, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
The bigger corners love love grass a fact, like a
big corner loves one because now they can use their
big body and you know, lean on you and everything else.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Absolutely, but that cold weather is different.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
How much do you think, Like I don't think Michael
Parsons knows what he signed up for. Like, you know,
you go from Dallas where you play the Giant. Sure
you play the command, but you're not in a Lambo shape,
Like now you're guaranteed eight to nine games in lambo.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Four of those games frozen Ton. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
People were hitting me up, like what do you think
about the parcels deal? What do you think about Jerry
Jones letting him go? What do you think about the
new contract?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
What do you think about the taxes going from Texas
to his cousin.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I'm like, bro, that's all fine and dandy. That's none
of my business. I'm not pocket watching. I'm thinking about
the weapon.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I'm thinking about him being outside of that dome and
being outside in the elements in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Listen, the first couple of months you good, even like
even like.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Late October early November, you'll get away with some chili games.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
But really it's just like, all right, this is chili
game football.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
But when you get into December, Green Bay brouh like,
it's different. I remember I remember one of my first
playoff games. There, snow's coming down. We walk into the
locker room. Randy Moss is sitting there, and I'm young,
so I'm just watching everything he do. So he put
on Experiens socks. I'm putting on expair socks. He put
on long Sleep, I put on long Sleep.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
If he got the thicker gloves, I'm warning thicker gloves.
So I just do what he does.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
And then I'm listening to everybody what they're doing. And
most of the guys were getting up and getting they
We was drinking straight chicken bro like hot steaming. You
can see the steam. We're trying to warm our souls up,
not our body, but warm our souls up. And I
remember I remember going out there with my shirt off
because I'm like, it's up, man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Like let's go.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And then I went right in because I was like,
I'm not built for this. Who am I trying to full?
Let me go, put my clothes on. And then I
got in there, and this was funny. This is when
I realized how different we really are, and like the
backgrounds we came from.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Cause a lot of guys were like, all.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Right, hey, hey, just extra pair of socks, get the
spandex you straight. And then it'd be like another corner
of people will be like, nah, man, I'm telling you,
get the basket lean rub dad all over your body,
and that right there is going to keep in the porsch.
I'm like, okay, I'm listening to him and the other
And this one I knew some folks is this country country.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
One dude was like, hey, my.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
My, my granddaddy said, if we use this cayenne pepper
that I got this this powder, that we could put
it in our shoes and and and that way, when
we start to sweat, it'll open up the pores and
the heat from the high am outer would heat up
your body. I said, man, this, first of all, that
is a remedy from voodoo lamb.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I'm not noning with that. I don't know if that's
gonna I don't want no part of that.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
But everybody had they put the put the nurses gloves
under your real gloves. And I'm just sitting there like,
as a guy who really didn't play in too many
cold games coming up, I'm like, Yo, this is it
can't be.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It can't be that cold. We went out there, I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Know Seattle cold, No, no, no doubt, Hey that wh're
that when to come off the little lake or whatever.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Plus that's the fact it gets chilli, it gets chill,
chilly chicken.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
But it don't get frozen.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It don't get frozen.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
You know what I'm saying. It don't get frozen. I
remember playing a shoot I was in. I was in
Detroit in Philly. This is when this was when Shady
was there and snow was coming down crazy. It's one
of the craziest snow games in recent history.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And Calvin's doing this thing.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I get a couple of catches, we slide and got
like snow all in our face.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Everybody moving slow. I'm talking about slow motion, bro.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
But it's like it's like it's all that good.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
What I'm saying it was slow motion just how does
this sloppy ball? But everybody's on the same page. Were
in the halftime, Lashaan mchoy comes out. He I think
he rushed for like a second half record against us.
He was hooking us, bro like, and then I was
so confused because he was cutting. Everybody's still sliding. He's
(16:53):
doing the same moves he doing on turn All right,
he dis in us up. He had to go far
getting crazy, bro, Yeah, he hold the way out here.
God dudes falling and he on his feet, not even sliding.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So they end up winning.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
He breaks some type of record on us in the
second half, and years later I ran into him and
we all drinking this all I love about our brotherhood,
like asking him see somebody that either played with or
against and have a drunk conversation about like a football
moment that really is so inside that whoever's listening don't
even understand. So we like out it might've been like
a bar club and I'm like, yo, hey, I.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Gotta ask you, bro. When we played John Philly, He's like, hey,
y'all remember that game.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah, I'm like you when you went in at halftime,
did you change to some illegal claes? He tracked like,
you didn't hear me, Like, huh, I can't the music.
I'm like, now you hear me, bro, talk to me.
Did you change it?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
He said, Man, I went in and put some of
them long fights in. You know what I mean. And
that's what I thought when I was watching him, like yo, he.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Had to put in the mountain climber joints stuff, the
air yoda la he who's cause it ain't no ain't
no way he was moving like that in regular cleats.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
There's no way.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Oh see, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I was inspired, but I couldn't feel the tips of
my fingers for three days after that game.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And I moved it.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
The boy relocated. It was so cold.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I don't I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I don't want to be an America anymore. But Nick, baby,
you and a homeschool, the kids. I don't want to
be here.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm leaving. Yeah are you coming? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
And I know we're talking about this off camera, but
I have to say it off camp. I'm in Madrid,
enjoying myself. I got a nice little couples trip, me
and my wife. We in Madrid, gonna bounce to Beza
or Beta and then we're gonna go to Majorca.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
So we are.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
We are I Madrid vibing. I'm going to the Louis store.
You know, it's my birthday week, going by something nice,
So this is gentleman. He comes up to me and
he's looking at me, sizing me up, and for some
reason he comes to the conclusion that I do something
in and around the NFL. I don't even know if
he thinks I played. And then all of a sudden
he starts telling me. He was like, look, I don't
talk about clients. It's not really your thing, and stopped.
(18:58):
We don't do that around here. I just feel like
you might know somebody I know. And I'm like, He's like,
before you can get out the last thing he said, Cam,
I said, stop right there.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You ain't got to finish the sentence. Listen.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I am an acquaintance of Cam Lead, I don't know him,
so he's not Cam to me. You're you're Cam because
I've known you the long as You're like a brother.
So when I hear Cam, let's think of you. Your
face pops up. Now depending on how I envision you
in the moment, it's a different configuration in hairstyles, but
still your face pops up and I'm like, didn't know
what you Cam Cam Jordan's and he's like and there's
(19:33):
a little bit of a language barrier, so now I'm
still trying to describe.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I'm like, I'm like, yeah, yeah, man football, uh yeah yeah.
He's like, I SEEZ and he showed me. No, I'll
pull up a picture, I think, and then that's what
I call you. You pick up a poe in the
(19:57):
locker room and I'm like, listen, only Cam camn in
San Diego?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Can can be be a guy that is brought up
while I'm on vacation on the other side of the world.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I love to travel.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You know, we lived We lived there for a month,
which may be coinciding with the wife's birthday, her birthday.
You know, we left Madrid and we were to uh
Beaus well you know how to go check it out
for the birth you know, we hit the Nation area,
Seville absolutely okay, you know, hey, we had to.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Go see we had to go see the world.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I had to go warm my soul.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
We'll be right back, all right. So what do you
what do you uh you know, what do you think
successful year? You looking at football being a part of
so many different franchises coming in too, you had to
deal with the quarterback situation where you come in and
you don't really know what you got going, but you
have a who lot of hope and potential. What do
you think would be a successful season for the Saints?
(20:58):
You know, I mean, of course I'm gonna say win
a Super Bowl, right, but to be four years out
of playoffs, you have to earn a playoff spot.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So, you know, Spencer Ratler, we saw a little bit
of last year with the unhealthy officer line.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Put on your analyst hat and think about what a
successful season with like first healthy Spencer around their healthy
officer line, shoot.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Chris olave Rashishihi.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
And Albu Kamar, Jawan Johnson, you know, Foster Moro, Taysom Hill.
The offense is not short of stars.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
But health was also a big reason why Yeah you
did you called it? So I wanted to address that
first because it's not like I'm giving you all a pass,
But I do understand health plays a big role in
the level of consistency because once you start, you know,
moving guys in and out the lineup, then that that
that chemistry that you built up in the off season.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
It really just falls apart.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Now you said what you're supposed to say, Yo, I'll
say super Bowl. Now, I'm gonna keep it real, because
you know you would keep it real with me if
I was talking when I was with the Detroit Lions
and I first joined them, not the later Detroit Lions.
But you'd be like, Nay, I know, you say you're
going to win a super Bowl, but like you said,
you have to earn the right to even mention that
because you know what it's like to be on good
teams and great teams.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And right now, the only.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Good thing about the Saints, not the only good thing
I would say, the good thing about the Saints that
people aren't checking for y'all. They're not giving y'all credit,
they're not even mentioning y'all, so understanding, like there's a
huge upside in just catching people off guard, not having
a target at all on our back, and getting a
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leg up on maybe even the division so you can
put yourself in a position to make a playoffs. I
think success for the Saints is legitimately winning the division
and then making it, not necessarily making a playoff run,
but just proving that you guys can be big dogs
again within your own division, because before you can be
a threat to the rest of the league and have
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playoff hopes, you have to knock on the teams in
your division.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Same thing with the Lions. Think about it.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
It seemed like every other year it's the year they're
pretty good, but everybody was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
This? This the year y'all can't even.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Handle Green Bay. Y'all can't even handle the Vikings, y'all
still struggling with the Bears. And I think the Lions
realize that, they're like, yeah, you're right, all right, let's
go be Kings of the North, and now here they
are Kings in the North with a huge parkment on
their back.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
So I think it's the same thing with the Saints
and Spencer.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
The one thing I know about him and I know
he is addressed this time and time again. Get a
lot of hype coming out of high school in the college,
so the magnifying glass was on him from jump. So
it's almost like you can't you can't fail forward when
you're hyped up that much, like you only can fail backwards.
Like people are gonna be like, see, I told you, ah,
he's not as good as we thought. You know what,
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let's compare him to everybody else. Now, let's Spencer develop
a lot of young quarterbacks. A lot of our greats
struggled early on in their career, whether it was helped
the team they were on or the off and it's
a game plan. I just feel like with him, because
he is nimble, he can't move in the pocket. If
they can get him comfortable with incorporating his agility in
the pocket, the ability to sustain plays and keep him
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going with his legs and then also hit those shots downfield,
that's where the big plays come in. I look at
Patrick Mahomes and I bring him like every time because
he's a prime example. Once he starts extending plays as
a wide receiver, I am thrilled. Listen, it's hard for
you to stop me running one route, let alone me
looking in the backfield and seeing my dude take it off.
Now you got to stop me running two routes. And
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if we're all in the same page, the near receiver
comes close to the quarterback, the opposite receiver comes screaming across,
and then if you're deep, you can hit the corner,
like the Chiefs have that figured out, Like the receivers
know exactly where to go in the configuration once they
get in the scramble drill, and then Travis Kelson just
sits in.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
The pocket like, hey, baby, you know where I'm at,
Throw it to me.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
So I just feel like once Spencer gets on the
same page with wide receivers, titles and running backs, he
escapes the pocket because it's inevitable, it's going to happen
every game.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Once you have a plan for that, then you can
really gash teams with the untimed place.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Mhm, enter the chat tyler Lockey Russell will.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
See.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I'm not I'm not I'm not against that one. Look,
I'm just I'm I'm excited for the potential. And like
I've always said, I was like, hey, we got a
lot of potential. It's gonna be up to us to
capture that potential because if we can do that, then.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
We can show the world a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
But if we don't capture that, then we'll just we
talking about. Man, we could have should have.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Wo we couldn't We had a shot man. You know,
the division wasn't as strong as your week could have.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Man, you've been in this long enough where it's like
that could have would have shots for the birds, especially
when you learn the talent.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Now, listen, we've we've we've woken.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Up on the start of training camp or the end
of training camp and week one is here, and we've
been on the team, and.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
We're like, you looked around.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
As much as I want to say, we're going to
be this, we not that you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I think I had one or two of those out
of my eleven year career.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
But when you have a team that's talented and you're
like literally looking at the roster, you're like, bro, we
got some dogs on offense and defense. So yeah, along
with us showing up, staying healthy, and being consistent, if.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
The coaches put us in the best position to be successful.
And let's not forget brouh it's also on the coaches. Listen.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Removing myself from the game, what I have learned is
I'm not the one to point the blame on players
or coaches, but I can honestly say when I don't
have a dog in the fight. You can look at
games each week and I can tell by the middle
of the game who's being out coached. So like, listen,
there's a lot of people that take blame, and people
(26:52):
want to blame the players because fantasy football and they
know players' names and they're following us like we're movie stars.
But the reality is it's not just on the players.
It's how you drop the exit and o's in how
you come out of halftime with your adjustments. So yeah, yeah, hopefully,
oh man, it would be good. But also I'm talking
to the same staff too. It's on y'all.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I'll say it is.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It is definitely a thing you know when you when
you go to a halftime and you sometimes don't get
a proper adjustment, like oh, you see the offense adju
just like oh, they was running the inside zones and
now now they're running these little tugs, these little whams.
They got little inside pulling guards just clearing up that spot,
and we.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Did an adjust for that. And you listen, you've been
in the game long enough, you're smart enough to know,
like we should be talking about this, Like it's almost
like you're waiting for it. You you walking a half time,
you take your breath. Coaches got to do their thing
and all that, and you're just like.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
They go high like to one play, like, hey, yeah,
they only ran this once, so we're not really gonna
worry about this one.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
And they and then their second half.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
They come back to this little this little wham block,
little pulling guard that comes up to the second level.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
And they start hitting it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
In two plays later, it's the same play, just reverse,
and you're like, god, facts we should have.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
But I will say this, and like I said, it's
not to continue to put the pressure on coaches, but
they also got a million dollar roster to these coaching staff.
You know what I'm saying, Like, I really want to
talk about how much these players, and this is across
the board. I'm not even talking about the Saints in general.
These coaches are making out like fat rats and rightfully,
so I want everybody to get money. I want players, coaches,
I want to I want everybody to get money from
(28:26):
the NFL. It's a multi billion dollar machine. Squeeze every
last red set as you can out of it. With
that said, and these coaches are getting paid, so they
also got to step their game up across the board.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I I'll say, look, it's arts for position coaches.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Then that's your base foundation.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
In fact, you can you can.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You can have a phenomenal head coach and have a
terrible position coach that has put these together. And you're like, man,
why did he have success when he was here? But
he has success over there the cabinet? Who do you
have around facts? Since we've been kids, we've always been told, hey,
you show me your friends, I'll tell you what you
could be.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
You are the company you.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Show you.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
The head coach showed me your coaching staff, and I
can tell you where you should have gone gone one
hundred percent. Anyway, I appreciate you turned on your anda
list hat to be going to you to being an adalyst, Like,
how how long did it take you to get comfortable
in that space? Confident in how you handle CBS morning,
how you handle the game days? You know you I
(29:27):
don't know what you haven't touched.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
It was.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
It was a little bit easier catching my rhythm working
for the NFL network when I first retired, For.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
A couple of reasons.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
One, I quickly realized who I wasn't like at that time.
We had Dion Sanders there, Michael Irvin, Marshall, Fall, Kurt Warner,
we had a whole host of individuals and great hosts
in general. And I remember trying to be like like
a herb probably wasn't got got.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You know I'm doing. I'm like, it's not me.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Next week I come in, I'm trying to be like Prime,
I got some fresh suit on.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I'm talking slick rhyming my words, you.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Know what I mean. I'm like, Damn, that's not really
me either. And then I'm like, all right, let me
see marshall fault. Let me let me try to atipicate
my point and articulate and talk about the cross section
between the inter collaborations of the No, that's not me either.
I'm like, I am this like kid that was born
in eighty one, you know, a little self deprecating, but
(30:26):
also feel like I got all the swagger in the world.
I'm very confident, but at the same time a little goofy.
I grew up on movies, music, pop culture, animation. I mean,
look at the shirt I'm wearing. Come on, I'm like,
I'm that guy, So like, be that guy. When it's
time for you to be serious, lock in when it's
time for you to take the stage, Sean, when it's
time for you to control the room.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You control.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
When it's time for you to tell a story, be
the best at it. When it's time for you to
be funny or self deprecating, be all those things. You
don't have to be one thing that you see on
TV and guys that you look up to be one
of those things. I mean, be all those things that
you are. So I once I realize that's why I
was it, that's when it started to take shape and
I felt really comfortable just talking about the game. And
I feel like I can do that with the best
of them. Whether people want to be entertained or educated,
(31:08):
I can do both, or I can do a blend. Now,
when it comes to CBS mornings like that was a
little bit more difficult, even though I felt like I
was prepared and I positioned myself to have everybody in
this CBS ecosystem recognize that I'm more than just the player.
He can talk about the financial market, he can talk
about silal issues, he can talk politics. He can sit
(31:31):
down with your favorite athlete or your favorite president. He
can do everything. Even though I feel confident in all
of those aspects of who I am as a media talent,
it took a while for me to like to be
comfortable in that seat, and that's like what I'm wearing,
how I talk out with my hair, all the little accessories.
(31:52):
When I first got on CBS Mornings, I was very
muted in so many ways, not just physical, I just
think notably. I just was like and I remember a
producer was like, look, we need you to talk more,
and I'm like, yeah, but you know, Gil, you know
Tony Like, look, I didn't get it. You're trying to
be p light and you don't want to jump in
sometimes you feel like it's a traffic jam. We hired
you to talk. Your perspective on things is unique. People
(32:15):
identify with how you talk about things. We need you
to speak more on the show. And I'm like, all right, cool.
That was one like light bulb that went off. And
then I remember like wearing all these like dark patterns
because I didn't want to like shake things up too much,
and I was going I was trying to.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Wear arounds and blacks and navies.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
And then one day I was like, I just had
a suit from my Sunday show that I brought in
studio because I was gonna wear for something.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I was like, yo, let me just wear this on
the set.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
And I wore and I walked in and like no joke, Gil,
and everybody was like about time.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
We didn't wait know you to.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Like where's this Ben?
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I'm like, y'all, y'all was waiting on me. They're like, yeah,
we see you on Sundays, we see you on red carpas,
we see you.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Why you want to come here and give us the suits?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
And I'm like all right, all right, bet So then
from there those two things. Man, that next week I
walked in and it was like I was, I was
my most comfortable version of myself. But yeah, news is
different because you have to be so prepared, Like I
have to be over prepared every day just to only
maybe get thirty seconds to talk time. And most of
(33:26):
the time I don't even have time to talk about
something I studied all night for. But I'd rather over
prepare and not have time to talk than not prepare
and go blank for thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like that's my worst fear is like them coming and
be like Nate, what you.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Think about the terriffs? What do you think about the
Trump administration? What do you think about you know, the
Barack administration? What do you think about what's going on
with the societal issues and the fractions in this Like
I'd rather I'd rather have something to say and not
say it or not use it then like just be
stuck here in the headlights.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Be stuck. And you know what, I think a lot
of things, many many different things.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
At the end of the day. If you ever hear
me start at the end of the.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Day, you know, like they got you, they got them.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Too.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Sha to Sam, I'm as suing in for that when
I'm like he was ready, but he might he took
my surprise.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I say, we are. We are working together. Uh this
year Nickelodeon's Lime Time.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well, hey, when I tell you, I'm bringing the most,
the most you know, rambunctious kids. Some of these kids
was wild. Hey, some of these kids was wild and
we got we got a lot out of them. Just
know we work and I'm gonna bring the best out
of these kids. Some of these kids, they would look
at me just like you said, like deers in the
head like they're like I had draw energy, don't worry
(34:56):
about it. I brought up juice for everybody like I
brought I brought the corniest version of me. I could,
and I said, you know what, Oh you wanna slime?
How much slime do you need?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
That's what I'm talking about, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I bring Every Tuesday, I go up there and we
shoot a slantan and bro Like, I go from like
any topics and news, take my suit off, put on
something fool and casual, and when I walk in that studio,
I literally like open the door to like twelve year
old Nate Birlson, like yo, little Nate, go ahead, you
got it. And then like the grown man, the adult
(35:31):
me will take a break and I'm just sitting there
just living up this childhood dream of being on Nickelodeon.
Like that's how I approach it every day. So you
bring in the right type of energy.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Oh yeah, I look look Nickelodeon.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I said, all right, what would I look like as
a kid listen to anilest fact the biggest Hey, this
is your biggest home, I said, what I brought up?
I brought out the cheesiest version of me. I'm so excited, everybody.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I can't wait. You're going to ask so much to
the show man. It's gonna be dope.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Ah, super excited about that. When I mean, come on,
it's sliding an time.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Come on, bro, Like eventually I know it's gonna be
my term to get slimed, but like right now, I'm
enjoying sliming.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, yeah, listen. First of all, I'm gonna make sure
that happens because you need to be slnes. So I'll
let you know. I'll get you heads up so you
can have your hair out, you know what I mean.
But but I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Though, Like having people recognize me for football was something
that like really spoke to like my ego when I played,
I loved it, you know, I mean I was a receiver,
like I love people being like yo, you man chelling
back when he was playing.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
With the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Like just the other day I was I was at
the US Open and somebody walked past me like, hey,
just gonna let you know you helped me with my
Fantasy League year two. You put up a thousand yards
against Randy Like.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
That used to make me feel real good.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
It's still to us, like I show people love to
take pictures and all that, but like now there's this
like there's demographic of people that see me there, like yo,
of what you're doing on CBS Mornings, and I think
that's dope. It's usually grown people and there's also like
some cougars, you know, I got like I got a demographic,
like the cougars love me, you know what I.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Mean, like like fifty five to like seventy five.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You just you look so young, like you're still play
it looks oh you're even more handsome in public.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Oh, they'd give me the extra extended hug and then
they pull out the words and give it to me
on the way out, like the Cougars love me, so
look but look but now, like that's that warms my
heart because that means that successful, we made a transition
and people can identify me as something other than an athlete.
But another element with what you're talking about as far
as Nickelodeon, which is super dope and I never anticipated,
(37:32):
is when like nine year old Boyle comeing to me
and he's just staring at me, and then his father's like, oh, sorry, man,
he shook right now, like he watches some time every
week and he's been staring at you since you walked in.
And then I'm like and like kids, and it it
made me think, like what would I have done if
I saw like Mark Summers from Double Deer or something
in public, like I probably would have flipped out of.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Him, like yo, that's the dude that does doubled there
like so.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah, so like I feel like, man, this is we
have an opportunity to like create this bridge between the
young generation and football fans and and Nickelodeon has created
the perfect vehicle for that.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Absolutely. Absolutely, I'm excited because this might be it might be.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
You know, my my youngest daughter, she was like, she's like, Dad,
I gotta I'm gonna slim you one day.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I say, you have a goal, baby, if if I'm
your goal, we'll make sure you get it.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
We'll make sure you get my little four year old
like that's mine. If that's what your goal is is
slime daddy.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I'll make sure what happened.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Oh man, Like I.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Said, I appreciate you, I got one. I got one
last segment for you. I'm gonna ask you three questions.
You tell me whether onside or off side. On side
means you're four, it's true. Offside means you're against it,
like it's false. You know, the Chiefs will make it
to the Super Bowl Game because Travis Kelsey and Taylors
Swift got engaged.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
M m M.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
I'm gonna say I want to say off side, just
because listen, this was a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, but the AFC is a little man. I mean,
you got the Ravens, you got the Bills, you got
the bangles.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I got just feel like there's too many squads. Even
with this very fairy tale storyline, there's other squads. It's like,
we don't give a bleep about your engagement. I'm trying
you see, got a ring. I'm trying to give my ring.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
So I feel like that's off side.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Hmm. There's real lions blood in your line's blood orange box.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Ash, Yeah, you know what, it's actually from the creators,
a sex panther. They say six percent of the time
it works every time. That's off sides. I wish though
that would be kind of wild. But you know what,
maybe I should create a cologne with a.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Little bit of lion blood in it. You know, the
fats might have him out there roaring, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Sathetic lines because.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Indeed, after this NFL S this ends, you'll bring back
your season recap rap song.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Then it twice.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Let's do it one side. You know what, I'm gonna
bring it back.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I have to.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
I've been thinking about it, you know what I mean.
I'm getting that itch and the storylines are better than ever.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, I'm bringing it back. Man. The NFL Wrap Recap
is back.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I appreciate you. Appreciate you, Nate.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Thanks for the listening, for tuning in. Thanks to the
listeners and the viewers. I appreciate everybody. You can find
the podcast and iHeart app or wherever you get your
podcasts and watch it all NFL YouTube channel. Just remember
Nate Brolson, all world analysts, all world commentary, all American
in college, you of then Man Man was a monster,
a mon star.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
From Minnesota for Seattle, Detroit, you know, just a legend.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Appreciate thank you, Man.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Indeed,
Welcome on in today it's Off Edge the podcast and
me your host Cam Jordan, and I say welcome on
it because I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Not only it's like week one coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Not only are we done with training camp, We're not
looking behind, we look in the head and talking about ahead.
I've got a great guy to come talk football with me. ALLEI, football,
a little pop culture, a little bit of everything. I've
got nothing but an extreme respect for this this man,
this myth, this legend who's taking football to a whole
another meaning beyond the grid iron, from his playing days
(00:40):
to being an analyst, to being colored commentary to hosting
a TV show to you know, hosting what.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Extra for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I mean, I don't know what you haven't touched, Nate
Burrow said, you know, just just appreciate you spent some
time a former All American at the University of Nevada.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You know, I appreciate it. I love I love doing this.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I love doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Thank you for the love, thank you for the intel.
I feel, the energy and the vibe. I appreciate you
having me on. You know, I'm a big fan of
you on and off the field, so it's only right.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I pull up, No doubt, look very familiar, you know,
just feels extended family everywhere I see you, and I'm like,
how's how's my.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Channel worth doing?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
You know what I'm saying, No doubt White, she went
to Channel in high school. She's always representing Arizona everywhere
she go to run.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
A joke in the house is I know Mom, I know, Mom,
Arizona does it better. She truly does feel that way.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Hey, It's true, nobody, absolutely, I see town's finest. I mean,
there's a few of us that got out and we
hold us down, you know, back home properly.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, y'all do y'all represent y'all well.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Before we get to anything, I have to say this,
and I gotta say it on camp because I appreciate
you for it. I reached out to you because my
son switched positions from tight end to d N and
I was like, Yo, I need some pointers and he's
trying to learn the position. And just like you do,
always willing to help somebody, you reached out, reached back
out right away. You gave some notes, some tips, some nuggets,
(02:10):
and then you said some clips. You were like, have
them look at these clips and anything else you need
holler at me.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I sent that right to them. So I just want
to say I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Know, in this brotherhood there's people that live by it
and ride by it, and they really truly do act
like brothers. So I appreciate you showing up for my
family like it's your family.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Hey, look, if if I got access, if my son
ever wants to be like a wide receiver, I know
exactly you mar Jo's keithon Ally, if I need a quarterback, Jared.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Like I'm using it.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Like if we work this hard not to have the connection,
you ain't everybody else does. So I'm not gonna be
shy about it. I'm gonna set my ego aside. I'm
gonna reach out.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
To my brethren.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I mean, not that you need them with your with
your resume, I mean you probably you probably played a
little safety back in the little corner man.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I'm all state cornerback and wide receiver, so on both
sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You know what I mean. That's now.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I was the knucklehead when I caught the ball and
never wanted to go out of bounds because I kind
of lightweight, wanted to smoke. I wanted to hit until
I got a little bit too old, and then hits
started to slow me down.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You remember when when you were young and we.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Were invincible, You remember that, Like, listen, I still feel
that way. I know you do, and I try. I'm
not trying to say you old. I'm saying you're older.
But the mindset at least now you're hyper aware of
your body and you know.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Like what is going to keep you on the field
and what can take you out.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
When we first got in the game, bro, it didn't
matter what they threw my way. I'm like, I'm bouncing back.
They're like, now you're gonna be out four weeks. I'm like,
I'll be back here for days. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Right? No?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, see see with science as it is now, you know,
with the now.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Hey, I've still only missed two games in my entire year.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You're you're an anomaly though, You're you're an outlier when
it comes to the rest of us.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So what so if you played defense in high school,
what made you toward turned towards just being a pure
bride receiver covering out eleven year eleven year NFL career.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, you know, listen.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I didn't mind playing cornerback, but there was something about
the position of wide receiver where I felt like I
had more opportunities to be the hero, and at cornerback
you have more opportunities to be the villain because even
if you make player after player at the play.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
You give up that big one. People are on your neck.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
And for me, as a young kid, I was fifteen,
sixteen seventeen, I was thinking about staying out of the
headlines for the wrong reasons and being the guy they
praised for the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And I remember my senior year.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We were a running school, so I had like sixteen catches,
but seven of them with for touchdowns. So there were
schools that were looking at me and they're like, we
feel like he's a good wide receiver, we just don't
have enough on tape. Now we know he's a good corner,
solid height, almost six to two. He hasn't been scored
on all senior year. He could jump through the gym,
so what are we going to recruit him as? So
(05:00):
some teams came in there like, look, we'll recruit you
as both, but we want you to play corner. And
then Nevada out of all the teams that were recruiting me.
They sat in my living room and I remember the
coach was like, so.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So, how many catches you have this year? This is
my senior year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I'm doing my final round of meeting with the coaches,
and I'm like sixteen something like that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
He's like, We'll get you that in one game, son,
And I'm like, huh.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
He's like, man, we were top five and passing this year,
number four and passing last year.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
We throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I promise you if you come to Nevada, we will
get you sixteen catches in a game.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And I'm like, damn.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
So showing up three years later against San Jose, say
that at nineteen catches.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
They threw the ball to me twenty one times.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So they held their word because you know, once they
told me that, I said, oh, it's a rap. Why
am I going anywhere else? I don't even know what
it feels like to get the ball thrown on me
that much.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I need to be at Nevada.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Look come going from going from Seattle to Noveda.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah you was.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You was sixty five degrees year round, man, cloudy, overcast,
luscious green, everywhere to Nevada.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
You, yeah, University of Nevada.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, and where you can't breathe can't where it gets
super hot because it's desert, and then super cold because
the mountains are nearby. It's not like Vegas, where it's
hot all the time. It's a little bit different. So
I was getting used to that. You know what's that
cold weather came around. I was like, oh, boy, if
I ever get the chance to make it in the league,
I hope I don't go to a cold weather location.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
And then Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You said, just like that, I'm going third round.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Let me.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Let me. Let me go over to the borough of
the cold Factory and the grab a shoot jackets. I'm
on my way, many.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I don't know nothing about that. I don't want no
part of cold. I don't even like my air conditioning
hidden under seventy. That's why i'd excuse you who touched
a thermostat.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Okay, but but how do you Okay, so how do
you get your mind right for those cold weather games?
Because listen, personally, personally, you don't want to live in
cold weather, and people act like, oh, because you're a
football player, you guys are impervious to the weather.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
No, no, no, hold all the time. Hold.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Weather games are terrible, don't I don't care if it
looks like a classic NFL Films episode.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It's cold. So my question to you is.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
How did you prepare your mind for those whole weather
games when you have to play outside?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Honestly, I was blessed by Jesus as a chosen child.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Crazy right now, Cam.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It took me to bro. It took me to year
well to play in a snow game.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I started playing at thirteen. I was thirty two or
thirty three by the time I played my first snow game.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Chose because that's what I'm saying, Bro.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Because of that game alone, I picked up the family
and I moved to Spain as soon as season was over.
That game happened from New Year's that happened Christmas Eve whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
What was that twenty three? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
We played the trash Cleveland, the Cleveland Browns. And when
I tell you that frozen negative like thirty eight with
the windshield, I went from like like just a oh
I played in a forty degree game. I was like, no,
ain't cold it it could it could snow today and
then it's like the sun comes out, the sky clears up,
and I was like, you know, like I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I didn't get that in Cleveland. Cleveland, it was snowing
when we.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Landed, it was snowing through and they're like, no, it's
going to warm up game day. I was like, okay,
it's going to warm up. Should be hopefully thirty.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I can do that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I'm into the COLTEB before I get into COTEB once
a year before the playoffs. That's the only time you'll
see me in the cotub with the D line because
of the D line. Other than that, I walk into
Cleveland and when I tell you, nothing prepared me for
that day, Like the wind ripped through whatever I was wearing,
touched my soul. My soul looked at myself and said,
(08:52):
are we really doing this dumb stuff? And I got angry,
like and I'm normally a happy, jovial menace, like I
want to be a minister society.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
This took me to a whole nother place.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
This was like dark.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I'm speaking like Morrow, so angry. We hit Nick Chubb,
and Nick Chubb is a great dude. I push off
of them off the ground. I'm like, this is stupid.
I'm on at Deshaun Watson. You said this was legendary.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
This is trash.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
You lie.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And he's over here looking at me, like what are
you talking about? We said a text message, probably the
season before we're thinking about recruiting. I'm like, I'm like, hey, bro,
you might want to.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Check it out here, you know what I'm saying before
you make your move.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And he was like, yo, I gotta do something legendary
and he got to pull the guaranteed job.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And I was like, this ain't legendary. You're a liar.
I'm good for you.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Like it doesn't make you mad for real, Like it
changes your whole personality, bro, Like especially like listen, you
can let certain stuff slide on a weather a regular
weather day, like an extra shove or somebody does something
on a pile or go your way.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's almost like I'm playing football, getting paid a ton
of money.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I'll see your next play when it's whole.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
If somebody that's something to annoy You're like, bro, I
like what we want to kill you right now, but I can't.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
All the way No, No, I'm going to get my get
back next play bro. Like I said, I'm mushing guys
off the ground like this stupid like getting up like
and I normally would.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Like that person.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, no doubt so so so are you?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Are you like me or at least how I was
a lot of dudes when we would get the lock
the schedule like this is when like we would get
it by paper in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I'm dating myself, but it's oh three and like the like.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Hardcore like lost in the season already football players. They
was thinking about like specific matchups and I'm gonna face
this dude that I hate and I can't wait to
score here and all me receiver, I was.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Like this, Oh, oh we got Miami in December. Oh
we got Green Band September.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Okay, oh we got we got La Like it was
for me. All I was thinking about was weather. I
didn't care about the defenses, the skis, the coaches, the players.
I went through the schedule.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And I'm like, that's that's crazy, kind of cold back
to one. That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
That said, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You had Green Bay Facts in Chicago, you know Chicago
nasty and certain.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Well don't I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I catch them early I always.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Did you catch them early? That's true?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I mean is there field trash?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah, build his trash, feel this trash, But don't you
rather have that or field turf?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I love turf.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I'm on I'm on the fence side of I love
turf because the most important thing for me is my
get off and on grass. Guess what flies first when
you're really trying to get out your first grass?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Of what that first step be? Got slipped?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Like? Yeah, I like turf. There's a lot of there's
a yeah, not practicing it.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But a lot of guys they don't feel that, especially
out of here in New York.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
They feel got the worst of the worst. I don't
really know, you know what I'm saying. I can't. I
came in when I had a little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Of turf and like straight up old school carpet turf
at Metro Dome in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
We was running.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It was it was a thin layer of carpet on
top of hardcore concrete.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I'm not gonna now it hurt when you need to grab,
but I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Once you got up the full speed, you are burning
and turning, rolling, rolling.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I want to see your best eleven versus my best
eleven and then turf gives you the best chance. Grass
fat people like grass, office Aligneman love grass.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Slot like oh man, a little bigger down in there,
grabbing on it outside of your shoulder.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Past, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
The bigger corners love love grass a fact, like a
big corner loves one because now they can use their
big body and you know, lean on you and everything else.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Absolutely, but that cold weather is different.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
How much do you think, Like I don't think Michael
Parsons knows what he signed up for. Like, you know,
you go from Dallas where you play the Giant. Sure
you play the command, but you're not in a Lambo shape,
Like now you're guaranteed eight to nine games in lambo.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Four of those games frozen Ton. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
People were hitting me up, like what do you think
about the parcels deal? What do you think about Jerry
Jones letting him go? What do you think about the
new contract?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
What do you think about the taxes going from Texas
to his cousin.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I'm like, bro, that's all fine and dandy. That's none
of my business. I'm not pocket watching. I'm thinking about
the weapon.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I'm thinking about him being outside of that dome and
being outside in the elements in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Listen, the first couple of months you good, even like
even like.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Late October early November, you'll get away with some chili games.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
But really it's just like, all right, this is chili
game football.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
But when you get into December, Green Bay brouh like,
it's different. I remember I remember one of my first
playoff games. There, snow's coming down. We walk into the
locker room. Randy Moss is sitting there, and I'm young,
so I'm just watching everything he do. So he put
on Experiens socks. I'm putting on expair socks. He put
on long Sleep, I put on long Sleep.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
If he got the thicker gloves, I'm warning thicker gloves.
So I just do what he does.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
And then I'm listening to everybody what they're doing. And
most of the guys were getting up and getting they
We was drinking straight chicken bro like hot steaming. You
can see the steam. We're trying to warm our souls up,
not our body, but warm our souls up. And I
remember I remember going out there with my shirt off
because I'm like, it's up, man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Like let's go.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And then I went right in because I was like,
I'm not built for this. Who am I trying to full?
Let me go, put my clothes on. And then I
got in there, and this was funny. This is when
I realized how different we really are, and like the
backgrounds we came from.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Cause a lot of guys were like, all.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Right, hey, hey, just extra pair of socks, get the
spandex you straight. And then it'd be like another corner
of people will be like, nah, man, I'm telling you,
get the basket lean rub dad all over your body,
and that right there is going to keep in the porsch.
I'm like, okay, I'm listening to him and the other
And this one I knew some folks is this country country.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
One dude was like, hey, my.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
My, my granddaddy said, if we use this cayenne pepper
that I got this this powder, that we could put
it in our shoes and and and that way, when
we start to sweat, it'll open up the pores and
the heat from the high am outer would heat up
your body. I said, man, this, first of all, that
is a remedy from voodoo lamb.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I'm not noning with that. I don't know if that's
gonna I don't want no part of that.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
But everybody had they put the put the nurses gloves
under your real gloves. And I'm just sitting there like,
as a guy who really didn't play in too many
cold games coming up, I'm like, Yo, this is it
can't be.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It can't be that cold. We went out there, I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Know Seattle cold, No, no, no doubt, Hey that wh're
that when to come off the little lake or whatever.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Plus that's the fact it gets chilli, it gets chill,
chilly chicken.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
But it don't get frozen.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It don't get frozen.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
You know what I'm saying. It don't get frozen. I
remember playing a shoot I was in. I was in
Detroit in Philly. This is when this was when Shady
was there and snow was coming down crazy. It's one
of the craziest snow games in recent history.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And Calvin's doing this thing.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I get a couple of catches, we slide and got
like snow all in our face.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Everybody moving slow. I'm talking about slow motion, bro.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
But it's like it's like it's all that good.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
What I'm saying it was slow motion just how does
this sloppy ball? But everybody's on the same page. Were
in the halftime, Lashaan mchoy comes out. He I think
he rushed for like a second half record against us.
He was hooking us, bro like, and then I was
so confused because he was cutting. Everybody's still sliding. He's
(16:53):
doing the same moves he doing on turn All right,
he dis in us up. He had to go far
getting crazy, bro, Yeah, he hold the way out here.
God dudes falling and he on his feet, not even sliding.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So they end up winning.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
He breaks some type of record on us in the
second half, and years later I ran into him and
we all drinking this all I love about our brotherhood,
like asking him see somebody that either played with or
against and have a drunk conversation about like a football
moment that really is so inside that whoever's listening don't
even understand. So we like out it might've been like
a bar club and I'm like, yo, hey, I.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Gotta ask you, bro. When we played John Philly, He's like, hey,
y'all remember that game.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah, I'm like you when you went in at halftime,
did you change to some illegal claes? He tracked like,
you didn't hear me, Like, huh, I can't the music.
I'm like, now you hear me, bro, talk to me.
Did you change it?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
He said, Man, I went in and put some of
them long fights in. You know what I mean. And
that's what I thought when I was watching him, like yo, he.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Had to put in the mountain climber joints stuff, the
air yoda la he who's cause it ain't no ain't
no way he was moving like that in regular cleats.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
There's no way.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Oh see, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I was inspired, but I couldn't feel the tips of
my fingers for three days after that game.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And I moved it.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
The boy relocated. It was so cold.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I don't I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I don't want to be an America anymore. But Nick, baby,
you and a homeschool, the kids. I don't want to
be here.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm leaving. Yeah are you coming? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
And I know we're talking about this off camera, but
I have to say it off camp. I'm in Madrid,
enjoying myself. I got a nice little couples trip, me
and my wife. We in Madrid, gonna bounce to Beza
or Beta and then we're gonna go to Majorca.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
So we are.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
We are I Madrid vibing. I'm going to the Louis store.
You know, it's my birthday week, going by something nice,
So this is gentleman. He comes up to me and
he's looking at me, sizing me up, and for some
reason he comes to the conclusion that I do something
in and around the NFL. I don't even know if
he thinks I played. And then all of a sudden
he starts telling me. He was like, look, I don't
talk about clients. It's not really your thing, and stopped.
(18:58):
We don't do that around here. I just feel like
you might know somebody I know. And I'm like, He's like,
before you can get out the last thing he said, Cam,
I said, stop right there.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You ain't got to finish the sentence. Listen.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I am an acquaintance of Cam Lead, I don't know him,
so he's not Cam to me. You're you're Cam because
I've known you the long as You're like a brother.
So when I hear Cam, let's think of you. Your
face pops up. Now depending on how I envision you
in the moment, it's a different configuration in hairstyles, but
still your face pops up and I'm like, didn't know
what you Cam Cam Jordan's and he's like and there's
(19:33):
a little bit of a language barrier, so now I'm
still trying to describe.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I'm like, I'm like, yeah, yeah, man football, uh yeah yeah.
He's like, I SEEZ and he showed me. No, I'll
pull up a picture, I think, and then that's what
I call you. You pick up a poe in the
(19:57):
locker room and I'm like, listen, only Cam camn in
San Diego?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Can can be be a guy that is brought up
while I'm on vacation on the other side of the world.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I love to travel.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You know, we lived We lived there for a month,
which may be coinciding with the wife's birthday, her birthday.
You know, we left Madrid and we were to uh
Beaus well you know how to go check it out
for the birth you know, we hit the Nation area,
Seville absolutely okay, you know, hey, we had to.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Go see we had to go see the world.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I had to go warm my soul.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
We'll be right back, all right. So what do you
what do you uh you know, what do you think
successful year? You looking at football being a part of
so many different franchises coming in too, you had to
deal with the quarterback situation where you come in and
you don't really know what you got going, but you
have a who lot of hope and potential. What do
you think would be a successful season for the Saints?
(20:58):
You know, I mean, of course I'm gonna say win
a Super Bowl, right, but to be four years out
of playoffs, you have to earn a playoff spot.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So, you know, Spencer Ratler, we saw a little bit
of last year with the unhealthy officer line.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Put on your analyst hat and think about what a
successful season with like first healthy Spencer around their healthy
officer line, shoot.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Chris olave Rashishihi.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
And Albu Kamar, Jawan Johnson, you know, Foster Moro, Taysom Hill.
The offense is not short of stars.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
But health was also a big reason why Yeah you
did you called it? So I wanted to address that
first because it's not like I'm giving you all a pass,
But I do understand health plays a big role in
the level of consistency because once you start, you know,
moving guys in and out the lineup, then that that
that chemistry that you built up in the off season.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
It really just falls apart.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Now you said what you're supposed to say, Yo, I'll
say super Bowl. Now, I'm gonna keep it real, because
you know you would keep it real with me if
I was talking when I was with the Detroit Lions
and I first joined them, not the later Detroit Lions.
But you'd be like, Nay, I know, you say you're
going to win a super Bowl, but like you said,
you have to earn the right to even mention that
because you know what it's like to be on good
teams and great teams.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And right now, the only.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Good thing about the Saints, not the only good thing
I would say, the good thing about the Saints that
people aren't checking for y'all. They're not giving y'all credit,
they're not even mentioning y'all, so understanding, like there's a
huge upside in just catching people off guard, not having
a target at all on our back, and getting a
(22:36):
leg up on maybe even the division so you can
put yourself in a position to make a playoffs. I
think success for the Saints is legitimately winning the division
and then making it, not necessarily making a playoff run,
but just proving that you guys can be big dogs
again within your own division, because before you can be
a threat to the rest of the league and have
(22:57):
playoff hopes, you have to knock on the teams in
your division.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Same thing with the Lions. Think about it.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
It seemed like every other year it's the year they're
pretty good, but everybody was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
This? This the year y'all can't even.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Handle Green Bay. Y'all can't even handle the Vikings, y'all
still struggling with the Bears. And I think the Lions
realize that, they're like, yeah, you're right, all right, let's
go be Kings of the North, and now here they
are Kings in the North with a huge parkment on
their back.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
So I think it's the same thing with the Saints
and Spencer.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
The one thing I know about him and I know
he is addressed this time and time again. Get a
lot of hype coming out of high school in the college,
so the magnifying glass was on him from jump. So
it's almost like you can't you can't fail forward when
you're hyped up that much, like you only can fail backwards.
Like people are gonna be like, see, I told you, ah,
he's not as good as we thought. You know what,
(23:50):
let's compare him to everybody else. Now, let's Spencer develop
a lot of young quarterbacks. A lot of our greats
struggled early on in their career, whether it was helped
the team they were on or the off and it's
a game plan. I just feel like with him, because
he is nimble, he can't move in the pocket. If
they can get him comfortable with incorporating his agility in
the pocket, the ability to sustain plays and keep him
(24:13):
going with his legs and then also hit those shots downfield,
that's where the big plays come in. I look at
Patrick Mahomes and I bring him like every time because
he's a prime example. Once he starts extending plays as
a wide receiver, I am thrilled. Listen, it's hard for
you to stop me running one route, let alone me
looking in the backfield and seeing my dude take it off.
Now you got to stop me running two routes. And
(24:34):
if we're all in the same page, the near receiver
comes close to the quarterback, the opposite receiver comes screaming across,
and then if you're deep, you can hit the corner,
like the Chiefs have that figured out, Like the receivers
know exactly where to go in the configuration once they
get in the scramble drill, and then Travis Kelson just
sits in.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
The pocket like, hey, baby, you know where I'm at,
Throw it to me.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
So I just feel like once Spencer gets on the
same page with wide receivers, titles and running backs, he
escapes the pocket because it's inevitable, it's going to happen
every game.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Once you have a plan for that, then you can
really gash teams with the untimed place.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Mhm, enter the chat tyler Lockey Russell will.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
See.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I'm not I'm not I'm not against that one. Look,
I'm just I'm I'm excited for the potential. And like
I've always said, I was like, hey, we got a
lot of potential. It's gonna be up to us to
capture that potential because if we can do that, then.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
We can show the world a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
But if we don't capture that, then we'll just we
talking about. Man, we could have should have.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Wo we couldn't We had a shot man. You know,
the division wasn't as strong as your week could have.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Man, you've been in this long enough where it's like
that could have would have shots for the birds, especially
when you learn the talent.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Now, listen, we've we've we've woken.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Up on the start of training camp or the end
of training camp and week one is here, and we've
been on the team, and.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
We're like, you looked around.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
As much as I want to say, we're going to
be this, we not that you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I think I had one or two of those out
of my eleven year career.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
But when you have a team that's talented and you're
like literally looking at the roster, you're like, bro, we
got some dogs on offense and defense. So yeah, along
with us showing up, staying healthy, and being consistent, if.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
The coaches put us in the best position to be successful.
And let's not forget brouh it's also on the coaches. Listen.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Removing myself from the game, what I have learned is
I'm not the one to point the blame on players
or coaches, but I can honestly say when I don't
have a dog in the fight. You can look at
games each week and I can tell by the middle
of the game who's being out coached. So like, listen,
there's a lot of people that take blame, and people
(26:52):
want to blame the players because fantasy football and they
know players' names and they're following us like we're movie stars.
But the reality is it's not just on the players.
It's how you drop the exit and o's in how
you come out of halftime with your adjustments. So yeah, yeah, hopefully,
oh man, it would be good. But also I'm talking
to the same staff too. It's on y'all.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I'll say it is.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It is definitely a thing you know when you when
you go to a halftime and you sometimes don't get
a proper adjustment, like oh, you see the offense adju
just like oh, they was running the inside zones and
now now they're running these little tugs, these little whams.
They got little inside pulling guards just clearing up that spot,
and we.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Did an adjust for that. And you listen, you've been
in the game long enough, you're smart enough to know,
like we should be talking about this, Like it's almost
like you're waiting for it. You you walking a half time,
you take your breath. Coaches got to do their thing
and all that, and you're just like.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
They go high like to one play, like, hey, yeah,
they only ran this once, so we're not really gonna
worry about this one.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
And they and then their second half.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
They come back to this little this little wham block,
little pulling guard that comes up to the second level.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
And they start hitting it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
In two plays later, it's the same play, just reverse,
and you're like, god, facts we should have.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
But I will say this, and like I said, it's
not to continue to put the pressure on coaches, but
they also got a million dollar roster to these coaching staff.
You know what I'm saying, Like, I really want to
talk about how much these players, and this is across
the board. I'm not even talking about the Saints in general.
These coaches are making out like fat rats and rightfully,
so I want everybody to get money. I want players, coaches,
I want to I want everybody to get money from
(28:26):
the NFL. It's a multi billion dollar machine. Squeeze every
last red set as you can out of it. With
that said, and these coaches are getting paid, so they
also got to step their game up across the board.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I I'll say, look, it's arts for position coaches.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Then that's your base foundation.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
In fact, you can you can.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You can have a phenomenal head coach and have a
terrible position coach that has put these together. And you're like, man,
why did he have success when he was here? But
he has success over there the cabinet? Who do you
have around facts? Since we've been kids, we've always been told, hey,
you show me your friends, I'll tell you what you
could be.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
You are the company you.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Show you.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
The head coach showed me your coaching staff, and I
can tell you where you should have gone gone one
hundred percent. Anyway, I appreciate you turned on your anda
list hat to be going to you to being an adalyst, Like,
how how long did it take you to get comfortable
in that space? Confident in how you handle CBS morning,
how you handle the game days? You know you I
(29:27):
don't know what you haven't touched.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
It was.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
It was a little bit easier catching my rhythm working
for the NFL network when I first retired, For.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
A couple of reasons.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
One, I quickly realized who I wasn't like at that time.
We had Dion Sanders there, Michael Irvin, Marshall, Fall, Kurt Warner,
we had a whole host of individuals and great hosts
in general. And I remember trying to be like like
a herb probably wasn't got got.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You know I'm doing. I'm like, it's not me.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Next week I come in, I'm trying to be like Prime,
I got some fresh suit on.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I'm talking slick rhyming my words, you.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Know what I mean. I'm like, Damn, that's not really
me either. And then I'm like, all right, let me
see marshall fault. Let me let me try to atipicate
my point and articulate and talk about the cross section
between the inter collaborations of the No, that's not me either.
I'm like, I am this like kid that was born
in eighty one, you know, a little self deprecating, but
(30:26):
also feel like I got all the swagger in the world.
I'm very confident, but at the same time a little goofy.
I grew up on movies, music, pop culture, animation. I mean,
look at the shirt I'm wearing. Come on, I'm like,
I'm that guy, So like, be that guy. When it's
time for you to be serious, lock in when it's
time for you to take the stage, Sean, when it's
time for you to control the room.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You control.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
When it's time for you to tell a story, be
the best at it. When it's time for you to
be funny or self deprecating, be all those things. You
don't have to be one thing that you see on
TV and guys that you look up to be one
of those things. I mean, be all those things that
you are. So I once I realize that's why I
was it, that's when it started to take shape and
I felt really comfortable just talking about the game. And
I feel like I can do that with the best
of them. Whether people want to be entertained or educated,
(31:08):
I can do both, or I can do a blend. Now,
when it comes to CBS mornings like that was a
little bit more difficult, even though I felt like I
was prepared and I positioned myself to have everybody in
this CBS ecosystem recognize that I'm more than just the player.
He can talk about the financial market, he can talk
about silal issues, he can talk politics. He can sit
(31:31):
down with your favorite athlete or your favorite president. He
can do everything. Even though I feel confident in all
of those aspects of who I am as a media talent,
it took a while for me to like to be
comfortable in that seat, and that's like what I'm wearing,
how I talk out with my hair, all the little accessories.
(31:52):
When I first got on CBS Mornings, I was very
muted in so many ways, not just physical, I just
think notably. I just was like and I remember a
producer was like, look, we need you to talk more,
and I'm like, yeah, but you know, Gil, you know
Tony Like, look, I didn't get it. You're trying to
be p light and you don't want to jump in
sometimes you feel like it's a traffic jam. We hired
you to talk. Your perspective on things is unique. People
(32:15):
identify with how you talk about things. We need you
to speak more on the show. And I'm like, all right, cool.
That was one like light bulb that went off. And
then I remember like wearing all these like dark patterns
because I didn't want to like shake things up too much,
and I was going I was trying to.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Wear arounds and blacks and navies.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
And then one day I was like, I just had
a suit from my Sunday show that I brought in
studio because I was gonna wear for something.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I was like, yo, let me just wear this on
the set.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
And I wore and I walked in and like no joke, Gil,
and everybody was like about time.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
We didn't wait know you to.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Like where's this Ben?
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I'm like, y'all, y'all was waiting on me. They're like, yeah,
we see you on Sundays, we see you on red carpas,
we see you.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Why you want to come here and give us the suits?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
And I'm like all right, all right, bet So then
from there those two things. Man, that next week I
walked in and it was like I was, I was
my most comfortable version of myself. But yeah, news is
different because you have to be so prepared, Like I
have to be over prepared every day just to only
maybe get thirty seconds to talk time. And most of
(33:26):
the time I don't even have time to talk about
something I studied all night for. But I'd rather over
prepare and not have time to talk than not prepare
and go blank for thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like that's my worst fear is like them coming and
be like Nate, what you.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Think about the terriffs? What do you think about the
Trump administration? What do you think about you know, the
Barack administration? What do you think about what's going on
with the societal issues and the fractions in this Like
I'd rather I'd rather have something to say and not
say it or not use it then like just be
stuck here in the headlights.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Be stuck. And you know what, I think a lot
of things, many many different things.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
At the end of the day. If you ever hear
me start at the end of the.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Day, you know, like they got you, they got them.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Too.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Sha to Sam, I'm as suing in for that when
I'm like he was ready, but he might he took
my surprise.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I say, we are. We are working together. Uh this
year Nickelodeon's Lime Time.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well, hey, when I tell you, I'm bringing the most,
the most you know, rambunctious kids. Some of these kids
was wild. Hey, some of these kids was wild and
we got we got a lot out of them. Just
know we work and I'm gonna bring the best out
of these kids. Some of these kids, they would look
at me just like you said, like deers in the
head like they're like I had draw energy, don't worry
(34:56):
about it. I brought up juice for everybody like I
brought I brought the corniest version of me. I could,
and I said, you know what, Oh you wanna slime?
How much slime do you need?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
That's what I'm talking about, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I bring Every Tuesday, I go up there and we
shoot a slantan and bro Like, I go from like
any topics and news, take my suit off, put on
something fool and casual, and when I walk in that studio,
I literally like open the door to like twelve year
old Nate Birlson, like yo, little Nate, go ahead, you
got it. And then like the grown man, the adult
(35:31):
me will take a break and I'm just sitting there
just living up this childhood dream of being on Nickelodeon.
Like that's how I approach it every day. So you
bring in the right type of energy.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Oh yeah, I look look Nickelodeon.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I said, all right, what would I look like as
a kid listen to anilest fact the biggest Hey, this
is your biggest home, I said, what I brought up?
I brought out the cheesiest version of me. I'm so excited, everybody.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I can't wait. You're going to ask so much to
the show man. It's gonna be dope.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Ah, super excited about that. When I mean, come on,
it's sliding an time.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Come on, bro, Like eventually I know it's gonna be
my term to get slimed, but like right now, I'm
enjoying sliming.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, yeah, listen. First of all, I'm gonna make sure
that happens because you need to be slnes. So I'll
let you know. I'll get you heads up so you
can have your hair out, you know what I mean.
But but I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Though, Like having people recognize me for football was something
that like really spoke to like my ego when I played,
I loved it, you know, I mean I was a receiver,
like I love people being like yo, you man chelling
back when he was playing.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
With the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Like just the other day I was I was at
the US Open and somebody walked past me like, hey,
just gonna let you know you helped me with my
Fantasy League year two. You put up a thousand yards
against Randy Like.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
That used to make me feel real good.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
It's still to us, like I show people love to
take pictures and all that, but like now there's this
like there's demographic of people that see me there, like yo,
of what you're doing on CBS Mornings, and I think
that's dope. It's usually grown people and there's also like
some cougars, you know, I got like I got a demographic,
like the cougars love me, you know what I.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Mean, like like fifty five to like seventy five.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You just you look so young, like you're still play
it looks oh you're even more handsome in public.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Oh, they'd give me the extra extended hug and then
they pull out the words and give it to me
on the way out, like the Cougars love me, so
look but look but now, like that's that warms my
heart because that means that successful, we made a transition
and people can identify me as something other than an athlete.
But another element with what you're talking about as far
as Nickelodeon, which is super dope and I never anticipated,
(37:32):
is when like nine year old Boyle comeing to me
and he's just staring at me, and then his father's like, oh, sorry, man,
he shook right now, like he watches some time every
week and he's been staring at you since you walked in.
And then I'm like and like kids, and it it
made me think, like what would I have done if
I saw like Mark Summers from Double Deer or something
in public, like I probably would have flipped out of.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Him, like yo, that's the dude that does doubled there
like so.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah, so like I feel like, man, this is we
have an opportunity to like create this bridge between the
young generation and football fans and and Nickelodeon has created
the perfect vehicle for that.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Absolutely. Absolutely, I'm excited because this might be it might be.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
You know, my my youngest daughter, she was like, she's like, Dad,
I gotta I'm gonna slim you one day.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I say, you have a goal, baby, if if I'm
your goal, we'll make sure you get it.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
We'll make sure you get my little four year old
like that's mine. If that's what your goal is is
slime daddy.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I'll make sure what happened.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Oh man, Like I.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Said, I appreciate you, I got one. I got one
last segment for you. I'm gonna ask you three questions.
You tell me whether onside or off side. On side
means you're four, it's true. Offside means you're against it,
like it's false. You know, the Chiefs will make it
to the Super Bowl Game because Travis Kelsey and Taylors
Swift got engaged.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
M m M.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
I'm gonna say I want to say off side, just
because listen, this was a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, but the AFC is a little man. I mean,
you got the Ravens, you got the Bills, you got
the bangles.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I got just feel like there's too many squads. Even
with this very fairy tale storyline, there's other squads. It's like,
we don't give a bleep about your engagement. I'm trying
you see, got a ring. I'm trying to give my ring.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
So I feel like that's off side.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Hmm. There's real lions blood in your line's blood orange box.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Ash, Yeah, you know what, it's actually from the creators,
a sex panther. They say six percent of the time
it works every time. That's off sides. I wish though
that would be kind of wild. But you know what,
maybe I should create a cologne with a.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Little bit of lion blood in it. You know, the
fats might have him out there roaring, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Sathetic lines because.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Indeed, after this NFL S this ends, you'll bring back
your season recap rap song.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Then it twice.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Let's do it one side. You know what, I'm gonna
bring it back.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I have to.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
I've been thinking about it, you know what I mean.
I'm getting that itch and the storylines are better than ever.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, I'm bringing it back. Man. The NFL Wrap Recap
is back.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I appreciate you. Appreciate you, Nate.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Thanks for the listening, for tuning in. Thanks to the
listeners and the viewers. I appreciate everybody. You can find
the podcast and iHeart app or wherever you get your
podcasts and watch it all NFL YouTube channel. Just remember
Nate Brolson, all world analysts, all world commentary, all American
in college, you of then Man Man was a monster,
a mon star.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
From Minnesota for Seattle, Detroit, you know, just a legend.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Appreciate thank you, Man.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Indeed,
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