On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, New York Giants defensive end Kayvon Thibodeaux is back with Cam on the pod. The guys recap their Week 14 matchup which Cam’s New Orleans Saints won 14-11 on a blocked field goal attempt as time expired. Kayvon discuses how despite the Giants 2-11 record he plans to wreak havoc on the NFC playoff picture, while Cam breaks down the Saints chances to make the postseason. Later, Kayvon shares how the last four games of this season will have a major impact on his long-term future with the Giants. The guys then discuss their thoughts on how coach speeches land in the locker room this late in a season. And in a fun game of “Onside or Offside,” Cam and Kayvon pick sides on Travis Hunter’s Heisman Trophy prospects, Deion Sanders to the NFL chatter, whether Bill Belichick should go to college, and their thoughts on Juan Soto’s $765 million-dollar contract.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey man, we were back at it.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's another episode of Off the Edge with media host
Cam Jordan, and I'm just super excited. I think I
just called it an episode because we were just enemies.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
But we'll get into it. We were good, We're good now.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Uh, you know, we go from going off head to
head matchup out there in Jersey. They're gonna call it
the New New York Giants caveon Thibodeau on the show. Uh,
we won't really dip into it, but we're gonna tap in.
So go ahead, hit the hit the follow, the subscribe.
This episode is bound to be a good one. We're
gonna cover a little myriad of topics. But I'm excited. Hey,
(00:39):
Cavon coming back on the on the pod bro, you
know for the monthly Stop in to check in if
you will.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
How are you feeling you good man, I'm I'm happy
to be back, but I'm mad that y'all. I'll be honest,
I'm supposed to have that one man overtime just for
the record, just so you know, we had, y'all, we
went overtime.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Fact that we went to the to the halftime and
I was like, man, we winning this game for a
show and you come back and score fourteen eleven when.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I tell you your score to weird score.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We missed two field goals, y'all almost took what y
y'all y'all took one back to the crib off.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Off of fluke fluke call question, but I wasn't. I
would say it was a fluke. I don't even know
real question. But now I'm just talking. Yeah, you can't
complain it is. That's the game. Hey, it's it's any
given Sunday.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
But fourteen eleven we're going into it and I'm like,
all right, cool, you know sexy Dexy aka you know
Dexter Lawrence a monster in the middle. For y'all, it
was down, you know. You guys got got rid of
Daniel Jones, which.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
We had some dudes step up, like it wasn't just
you know, it was we were playing you know, like
kind of like band of misfits, like band of brothers.
Like I'm talking about guys who you and Bernsey are
nice now? It was it was It was tough. It
was tough, but a lot of guys stepped up. It
was dope, you know. For for our defense perspective, we
did pretty well, but.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Y'all stopped that. Y'all stopped the hell out to run.
I'm not I'm not even sure who the interior was.
They was out there splitting two gays.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, y Duri, who else? Jordan Riley?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It was cooking And I was like, I said, I
had I had thought I knew Elik Neighbors game.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I ain't know. He was like that like that, yeah
he got it. He got some juice to him.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was like, oh, he's just like one of these
quick cats. Bro broke like four or five tackles.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Bro Like yeah, you know, it's just like he's aerodynamic.
That's the way to put it. Stay on his feet.
He got balanced. He knows how to bounce off tackles.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Right, I mean, you know you you came off with
a sack against a young, young.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Hater one that was late, too late.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
We saw a little Tommy cutletz take the game for
a play me me. I was like, oh, granted, were
getting one right now. And then it was it was
like a little read option. Hey me, grandall met this
running back in the backfield so quick.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, had us too, was doing.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Hey, hey, literally we came to the game knowing though.
It was like it was like our defense versus their defense.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, you know, nah, well our offense had a chance.
Drew Locke was cooking up at the end. He was
serving in that point, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Servant brother, like Channel Prime Matt Ryan in twenty fifteen,
boy was releasing this off of two step drops. We're
in his face almost every other play, and that man
was dropping dimers.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, it was, it was. It was an exciting game
from my perspective. It was fun. I just you know, man, Yeah,
for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
To be on the opposite side of that, I mean,
especially since you know, with the playoff picture as tightness
is getting, it's like you need every whin and any
one of those could be a chance. Yeah. Uh yeah.
And Lanta lost Tampa Temple one. But I think we're
two games behind with four games left. We have to
(04:06):
you know, we we Yeah, we gotta, we gotta find
our way.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
In my hopes, Bro, I need my hopes, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I was.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I was gonna say that part.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Just good luck, bro, forget it. My dog.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Another now that we're not ops, bro, like man who
got this up coming week?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
We got Baltimore, Man, Baltimore on my birthday. Yeah, I'm
not too worried, though, I'll say you have a secret weapon.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
The key the key to uh, the key to that
is is the edge edge on that between you and Birdsey.
Y'all athletic is hell enough to actually.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No, we got like a secret weapon some like secret sauce. Okay,
yeah we got something. We got something. Yeah, you know
it's gonna be a great game. Damn excited.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Just just just saw you know, y'all gonna catch that
freshly cut, more aerodynamic Derrick Henry boy just cut like
seventeen pounds worth the dreads off.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I don't know if you saw the hand.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Hand man, right, you know, man, you know, hey, I
got the car roads. I'm happy for you, right, set
you free with the remaining games left.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Uh? Are you trying to be the spoiler? Are you
trying to mess up playoffs? In my training? At my trying?
Like I said, hey, I didn't catch nobody, but we're
gonnahoop some ass on the way down to don't catch nobody.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Talk them out because after Ravens, after the Ravens, y'all
got the falcons, and I need, I need.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You got the falcons, then we got the eat. Uh,
we might have a coat coats and wes. Yeah, so yeah,
we gotta go out with a bang. Me personally, I'm
trying to string together some good games. So I gotta
just keep right, keep opening up a can of whoop.
You need that, need that? Yeah, it's cool. Cool if
y'all win this week. I hope everybody underestimated to just
so we could just keep hold teams the fourteen, holding
(06:03):
teams to ten, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Defense, hold on team to seventeen. You really be like help,
you know, just keep going now, you just keep working, yea,
get it right. Absolutely injuries, you know, end of the season. Boy,
the injury I had, I had Derek Carr go Superman
on y'all and and missed the first time he would
(06:26):
he reached out for the first and did get it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And now I'm we was ready to go over time.
But I hope he's all right.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You know me too. I'm still I'm still waiting. I'm
still waiting on a ticker.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Like I saw someone on the little ESPN tracker like, hey,
Derek Carr may miss I texted him.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I was like immediately, I said.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Hey, bro, you said you were okay, you said you
were okay.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Jumped, didn't get it. Then the backup came in and
it was just like it's something about like we had
the the backup came in, get the sack, get the turnover.
Oh it's going over time. We're about to go overtime
with the backup.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh man, Brazi over the over the top of somebody
for the block kick.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
The play before I really like, had Drew locked just
been regular Drew locked, Bro, that would have been a sack.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
The play before the end, like the Drew lock that
we know, that would have been a sack. This man
he was he was cooking.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
He's two step dropped back release hand hand on hand, Bro,
like my hands in his palm ball release. I said, Bro,
I needed to seal that, like I needed that for me.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, I needed that.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Brian Maze finished that thing. But you know, uh, he's
that that that block punt situation.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I heard a lot of people. Look, Chiefs won a.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Game with with the kick that hit the pole and
then bounced in whatever whatever magic seance positive energy.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
We got to get that we're not aligned.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The Chokras ain't a lie.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Because too many times it's a flag. Like Bro stars
just on the line first.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Bro, early early in the season, when you're like you're like,
oh we lost by two four six, You're like, bro,
one one possession, you lively like, just finish it, finish it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We did it too. It's funny, Hope. I believe we're
gonna do it, and we did it. And we did it. Bro.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That's when I tell you, when I tell you pain
for real, Like I know exactly you feel.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Last week the week before y'all we played the.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Rams and you know, like offense was driving in to
tie it up to go into overtime and just didn't
like it was about.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
To throw it. Just didn't you lose on that over
time and people grabbing him. It's like, yeah, come on,
we're gonna go. We're gonna do this. Finna do this,
miss it? Oh, this game over, it's over.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I gotta take I gotta take the field for this knee,
they're gonna take it. I want to punch somebody right now.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Like somebody's asked me, like, oh yeah, who up, you up?
Yeah up.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I gotta put hands on this person one one last time.
But you know, I mean for you, just for your
future alone, you know, like you said, you need them
sacks for you.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Know, my dog, my dog parents. You know, he got
a sack. I got a sack. He's like, oh yeah,
were going back. We canna rush. I'm like, yeah, let's
do it. Like yeah, let's do it over time. Yeah. No, no, bro,
you got four games left.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
What you try to pull off for the four games
because I mean after that, after this year, the Giants
got to put pick up your fifth year if they're smart.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
But you talk, you just went heavy talk. I'm just
saying that's real talk. That's real talk. So and it's funny.
I had a lot of people talking to me about
the fifty option bringing that up. But right, man, I
got to do his best I can, period. That's just
kind of the answer. I got to play good football,
so starting with the run game, just shutting it down.
(10:00):
I think I graded out pretty well my last two games,
which was good stat wise. You know, obviously I got
three sacks, so you want to finish with at least
one one a game. So you'll say seven if I
if I can, and eight nine if I if I'm lucky,
and I'm gonna put the work in and try to
(10:20):
get it. But I think just I gotta play good football.
You know, regardless of the stats. Obviously we're not in
the best winning situation, so you can't you know, say
I'm gonna go get ten sacks and you know we're
not winning. But I think, you know, continuously with all
of our our leaders being out and you know, different
people having a step up, it kind of thrust me
(10:41):
into a leadership role kind of late in the season.
So I think it's just good for me kind of
developing as a leader and developing as you know, a
player in this league to a kind of take control,
finish strong, and then you know, play good football, right right,
I think it'll be good. I'm not really too worried obviously,
you know, you know, when you when you're losing, you know,
(11:02):
regimens change things like that. You never know how things go,
so you can't really like obviously a fifty option guaranteed,
you know, obviously nothing is guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So nothing's in life guarantee.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, nothing's guaranteed. So you just I just got to
keep playing these last four games best.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I can broh in my mind, I remember, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What would you say, yeah, just saying as a first
as a.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
First rounder of my third year, Uh, I was I was.
I was hoping, like they wouldn't pick up my fift
year option.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I was like, I was like, don't pick it up.
Don't pick it up. Don't pick it up. Don't pick
it up.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Because that fifty year option.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
What were your stats like? Third year? I think that
was the first Pro Bowl, so I think I was like,
I went off that year, so it might have been
like eleven or twelve sacks. Okay, see me and my
third year, no Pro Bowl, trying to get seven. Got
eleven half last year, no Probos.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yet you hit double digits already though, like I did.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I did, which was good. You know, that's a good floor.
But for a lot of a lot of great pass.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Rushers that never hit double digit sacks what we call
considered a great pass rusher. But at the same time,
I hold I hold my abilities to my run game
first and always have you to me too.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It gotta be run game because you don't start You're
not you know, bro, you you rushing third and four.
Guess what you're not really doing. You're not getting this
the ability to cook you.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You're rushing third and eight. And that's what people don't understand.
When you we have a good great run stopping in
and then you get to rush third and eight year
that's your third and favorable. Now the quarterback has to
go through a read or two third and three to five.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's one reason show I got to start putting my
game together, Like I have a good game pass rushing,
but it be a bad run game or a great
game run, you know, to run defense, but bad pass rushing.
I got to just keep kind of stringing them like
dominant runs, dominant pass, Like you just finish.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It about matchups, Like you meet a team, You're like,
I'm about to whoop this boys ass in the run game.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It is best football I've been playing, bro and but.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
All of a sudden they go play action on you.
So now you're like, I'm stopping this run. Dang convert
to pass? Yeah yeah absolutely, but you know, look, I
hope the best word. But also that money different, Like
that's option for you. Yeah the fifty option is good
or bad?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Do you think? What is it? I don't know if
you got those numbers, man, like I be intrigued. I
don't have known them numbers for ten years. It hasn't
it hasn't been I saw. I think it's like sixteen
mil for the year or something like that, like one
year sixteen mil for the fifty bad.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's not it's not terrible.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's not terrible. Leg Yeah it ain't. It ain't it
ain't thirty five. Yeah, it ain't up there. But but
guess what, yess what I it ain't bad. That's amazing. Yeah. Look,
fifty option might have been. I don't get it, So
how does it work if they don't get it? If
they don't get it, the fourth year is is you
you going with? Every fourth year is no matter?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
You I could go, oh okay, they could try to
resign me, right, but I could go anywhere. Yeah, after
your fourth year then you know, but the team that
makes sense. The team is always going to have like
why would I not do it for your option to
keep that control? Exactly? I mean it makes sense. I
don't want to go just like, yeah, I mean you
know what you want to give. Why would you want
(14:12):
to give, you know, another team the option to take
your player exactly? I mean the Giants did it with Saquon,
so like, let's runt office next time.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Absolutely not even not gonna talk about like would he
didn't he just break the then he just in a
single season for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, as a former teammate, As a former teammate, like
you love to see former teammates have success and just
wish and you on your you know jersey in your
locker room. Man, you know, you know what I do
want to think about is just like you know, we
talked about leadership, but I know we messed up a
couple of punts during our game and you've seen coaches
(14:55):
go after players like you know, this is what we
need for.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
This is exactly what we expect. This is what we
we have to get from you. What do you what
do you think about?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know those those the fire and nature of coaches,
like the talk, the rhetoric, a coach who may or
may not get in your face. You know you you talk,
you think about like Sean Payton Russell last year situation
right or this year shoot Darren Rizzy my dog Alvin
Kamara had had to go grab it. Riz was like, hey, man,
(15:24):
like let let let hay Ball make it bro Like.
Players are players. You know, we're not perfect people, so
there's gonna be some mess ups. But you know what
it does like for some players, I feel like it
like that raw raw that in your face, that fire
brimstone can motivate a player or can make a player break.
And for me, if you're not motivated motivated enough by yourself,
sometimes you need a.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Kick in the ass to get going. I definitely like
a coach that will you know, talk talk talk is talk.
But I would say, you know, I'm a I'm kind
of like a rebel type player. So like I like
a communication coach, like, tell me, tell me what I'm
doing wrong, over what I need to do right, Let's
let's talk about the problem so I can be better.
(16:05):
I think that, you know, sometimes unnecessary yelling or you know,
even players sometimes, like players sometimes when a coach tell
them something, they getting their head too much and start
doing a bunch of unnecessary stuff and it's like, bro,
he just hes just correcting you, you know, right. So
I think either way, you don't. The line of communication
gotta be open, the relationship got to be there, and
(16:26):
that fire needs to be had just for the game
of football, you know, just for the the mindset of
half the time. You can solve your problems with violence
in this sport over anything else.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Bro. I literally I literally like be going to practice
training camp. I'd be like, hey, I bring my hands
work every day and somebody, somebody got to see him.
Now I'm like, I'm gonna choke I'm gonna choke you out,
you out or somebody like, but somebody gotta get choked out.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And it's yeah, it's too much that side thurn in
the sport to have it like a soft culture.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Just man, you know, like the setting effect, the who
when I say setting, Like whether is it game day?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I'm up before I do? Or is it that you've
seen them? You've seen the Miami stuff about them playing
the Bills. You see, okay, you know just how they
like Miami plays in the snow, like and most of
the time they're playing the snow. It's just a funny coincidence.
Obviously they I'm playing the snow, so obviously the Bills
are going to be better in the snow. Right. Just
(17:26):
the idea that, you know, like the standard that you're setting,
Like everybody's cold, your the coaches cold, the sideline cold,
everybody cold. They talking talking about the cold. Cre You're
creating issues, you know what I'm saying, How you can't
You're you're setting yourself up familiar you know, I think
(17:47):
it starts with you know, top down obviously with leadership
and setting the culture. So yeah, you definitely need to
come to me. I like a coach that's fired up,
you know, at all levels. When I when it's my
turn to have a son and my son is playing football,
I need a coach that's gone, you know, be military
on them.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Oh I hope you do have a son.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Bro. In my mind, I say, every man deserves a man.
I got three daughters, and I love them, but they
make you softer, like like when you gotta when you
got a son, You're like, yo, he look up to me.
I got to do it the right way, you know
what I'm saying, Like like no, I gotta go hard,
Like if it wasn't just for me, it's for him.
Like can't can't have my kid going to school talk
about your daddy's saw.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I just said that. I just made
the joke to my girl and I said, Man, if
I ever lose a fight, I never let my son
know I lost the fight. He'll never know. He'll always
have to think I'm the strongest, biggest, baddest, Like that's it.
I'm I'm opposite.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
If I ever lost a fan fight, I literally go
to my son and be like yo, but I never
back down, Like it don't matter when lose or draw.
What we don't do is step back because we don't
think we can win. You know what I'm saying, Like like,
I don't care if it's five of them. Guess what,
I didn't stepped all five. I like that because they're
gonna they gonna know I'm crazy about mine.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
What you're gonna do? You tell you got whooped by
Johnny like you like you start sizing you up there
that he you up. He said, I'm about as big
as Johnny. Johnny whooped you the pops, right, But that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So that's what you gotta know. I'm ready for I'm
ready for the action. Are you ready for that action? Like?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Okay, Like, hey, you're gonna win. You can't win every battle, allegedly,
I don't. I don't know one v one defeat. I
know team defeat.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I don't know one v one defeat. But maybe you're
gonna be the first to show me. Hey, you know
you see you see you see all the kings in
UFC get knocked out and they've been undefeated forever.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, I for show on my son to have that perspective,
like he has to be the first one to beat me.
He got it, give me off your list? You oh
you go? You you gonna beat me? Show me?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah? And then if you showed me, show me again,
because that's I want to know. Let you know that
I'm that crazy. How do have to put hands on pops?
If my son ever, like we we get into it,
you know, it's seventeen h old. When the chest get
he ever goes, he go big on me and hopefully
he talked back to his mom and I could leave
with a flying kick, Like I need to know I'm
(20:09):
that crazy. You know what I'm saying, like, oh, you
talk back to white, you talk back to your my wife.
My woman has come because it's me and in the
back put the boxing gloves on. You know what time
were anyway, But you know, just it's it's just great
to you know, have a son and like look at
him and and just even on flag football because I
won't let himlay tackle just yet flag football, Like he's
talking to his teammates and you know, emulating it. But
(20:32):
like it almost made me think what you said earlier, bro,
like it's that business. No, not football was a business.
Players who don't produce shouldn't have a voice.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, I ain't really saying I shouldn't have a voice.
I'm just saying, like, it's just what it is. You know,
it's just it's time on task. Like you got your like, well,
your middle linebacker plays every snap like what he is
Listen to him? Yeah, it takes are Our nose guard
has played every game to see you know whatever, Yes,
(21:04):
nice acts. We should listen to what he's saying, No doubt.
You gotta know with double shut the hell up when
he talked. If you're thinking about saying something, say it
with your pads and then and then comes head. You
know you should. I have to learn that too, Like okay,
I'm coming in. The stripes I had before last year
(21:24):
or you know, whatever stripes I had, they don't apply here.
M hm. You know these are new stripes. This is
a new situation.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Is a new year, we say, we said, they don't
like you talk about the resume like everything you've done
prior it's not gonna help you in.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
This now exactly that that credit that credit does not
I don't go here. Ain't no rollo, ain't no rollover minutes.
What have you done for me lately? Are you your
run stoppers?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Showed me you stopped run your pastors to show me
you stop the past if you, if you, if you
want them, lockdown corners, lock down any and everything.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, that's it. If your name is no. But that's
the league because it's too hard. And that's the hard
part about this league. But that's why we get you.
That's why we get paid. We paid because it's hard, right,
It's the reality of like, you know, do it again,
show me again and again and again.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Absolutely its It's one of those proven leagues. And it's
not a prove it one time, it's a prove it
every time. Teams love your upside until they think they
can replace you upside.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Even me. I'm sitting here right now, like damn three
years down, no Pro Bowls, oh man, legacy, Yeah you know,
like now I got to play for another seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Hey Rob be your fourteen Yeah, I'm vying for the
Super Bowl. You know, like I done had all the
personal success.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I don't own your contract.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Then next after next year okay, yeah bro, like and
I'm like better go chase.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You No, Bro, the legacy push on that. I don't.
I only know black and gold. Bro, I'm good with it.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Like like that guy Pop Pops played thirteen years for
the Vikings, Bro, Like loads run deep for me, Bro,
So I'm hard pressed. That's what I told you, Like
you saw me in that nose nose tackle detacl spot
anybody else keeping like, Bro.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I'm like, wow, I'll just stop the run.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I want my team to defensive scheme. You know, I
know we touched on that last week. Yeah, not last week,
a couple of weeks ago. How's that? How's that changed?
You know? How's that summed up? Obviously? Yeah it hasn't, hasn't.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
We sort of started to go back towards that for
man rush. But for man rush you still got Carl
Grandison on the edge, Chase Young on the edge, and
Brian Berzi gone stupid in the middle of that. Boy
got with seven and a half, seven and a half
sacks in the middle and then I'm over here like
fighting for my life at this three techniques sometimes to
lie down to the one like new Territory, Oh, well,
you gotta figure it out now, got to figure it out, right,
(23:52):
So you know, it just all comes down to the
business and nature of the defense and the game. Combination, combination, combination,
enough on the on the field stuff the off the field.
(24:15):
Who's who's you guys, multi Paid Man nominee?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Was that Slayton? There is Slaton? Yeah, yeah, shout out
to slay Walter Paid Man in the Year.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Come on, yeah yeah, now he's O.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I guess for that. Take that as a challenge. You're
nominated too.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Hey, I'm my team. I'm my team's Walters Paid Man
of the Year nomination. Bro. You know so I'm like,
I'm like, that's it's a kudos to everything that you
do off the field. And at the same time, there's
still more to be done, just like, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Way more. It never stops. That's the hard part. It's like,
even after if you win the Alter Payton you gotta
go do it again. Yeah, that's not that's fine with
the year you won the Walter Payton War, Like that's
not enough. But that's it's it's even beyond that.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
It's like you see guys like you know they're Slaton,
and you see you know, guys like Travis Kelt or whatever,
it's phenomenal a war because everybody puts on a bigger
platform for their cause, and for me, mine is always
gonna be like the next generation education, uh and pushing
forth for that, for for that. But but you look
at look around, You're like, damn, everybody's everybody's got he's
(25:20):
got he's doing this, that, this, that, Like somebody's created
a school, somebody's out here like really creating major impact,
major motion, and you know, feeding feeding the hundreds of
thousand people digging digging whales in the water, you know,
like Chris Long.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Used to do or with the water Boys.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Uh, Miles, Miles Garrett was a part of it for
a second, and he's just like, bro, I whatever I
do does just feel like it's enough. Like I'm impacting
you know, my community, which is great, but it's like
how much more can I give?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
You ever like it's I feel like I think it
challenged everything though.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So you know me, man, it'll drive you crazy, just
like looking at that and having that mindset, because it
doesn't it doesn't end. You know, there're always people to help.
There always be a mission. That's the mission is bigger
than you, you know, so I think you just have
to kind of find where you're satisfied in it. Even
with the league, Like you could Chase, you played thirteen,
(26:11):
you could play fifteen, you could try to play twenty.
Their dudes, I didn't even know. There are a lot
of dudes who haven't retired yet. You know, they're just
waiting to continue playing. And I think, you know, it's
all at the end of the day, like people are
going to judge you whether you help. And it's the
funny part. Whether you help a thousand people, you win
Walter Payton, if you don't produce in the field, people
are still going to talk bad about you your football skill.
(26:33):
So it's like that's not gonna you know, that's not
going to make you happier with the product being put out.
You know, it's not going to make you more fulfilled
because you know you're still gonna have your same problems.
You're helping other people, but like your problems are the same.
So I don't know, you just got to find what
you know, what level or capacity you know do you
(26:54):
feel comfortable with And you know, I help the people
that help the people that you are closest to. I
think that's one place where like I lose track. You
try to be on this super grand scale and oh,
I want to help everybody in the world. But it's like, nah,
just help your family in your community and your neighborhood
and your state and your you know, like be more
(27:15):
local than Nashville. B Yeah, got to be micro before
you go macro. Like you know, like I was like, man,
I want to send all these kids to college. All right,
well let's focus on what I can do family.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, Like like, oh I got I got cousins and
went to Okay, well they're headed towards college.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Now open it up New Orleans, East Hey, New Orleans,
you know, North Bank, whatever, New Orleans in general. Can
I try and help y'all? And you take it from there.
And that's where it sort of it sort of happened
for me though, like I thought micro first and then
now thirteen years later macro. But I mean, I still
do my same school visits every Tuesday. I started with
my rookie year. I'm still out in the community doing elementary,
(27:55):
middle school, high school, whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
It's funny. I think that's the difference too, when you
look at like New Orleans versus in LA or New York,
because I came in thinking macro like, oh, let's let's
have a platform. Let's yeah, platform, like, let's figure out
how we can help the masses. And then I had
to kind of step back, like, let me actually realize,
(28:18):
like you know, like there are twenty kids that I
can help at my hand, right here in front of me.
Let me help these twenty you know, they're you know,
like you say, cousins, there are a family around me
or people right in my vision or maybe not in
my vision, but there are people that need the help,
that are local that I could help, that I should
be and I think I had to and I think
(28:38):
it's been good and not necessarily change my mind, but
just connect those two platforms, you know, from the international
or the national to the local platform, and you know,
continue to kind of uplift you know both right.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
In fact, in fact, brother, take care of the small
things and the bigger things will follow suit, exactly, you know,
like you know again, I'm here fourteen, so you you
have to hear three. We'll talk in another five six years, bro,
when you you're over established and you you created, you know,
you'll met Gala Foundation. You know what I'm saying Like
that that's when you know, when football field meets off
(29:15):
the field, that creates an even larger impact. But when
you talk when you take care of three or four local,
local kids and there's inspired both, there's a chance that
you've created such a positive impact that that next generation
is gonna feel what you what you've left from the
kids that.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
You talk to. Ye, And that's what it's That's what
it's all about.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
But anyways, all right, but enough of that, let's uh,
let's pivot get to the off side or on side segment.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
We've done this before. You're familiar with this one.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Offside versus on side For anybody news to the pod
is I'm gonna throw out some of the biggest storyline scenarios.
If you're you're on side, you're all for it. If
you're off size that you're against it. Uh, major push
winning the Heisman. Travis Hunter should win the Heisman over
ashion gionte off side.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Or on side?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Oh, I'm gonna go. Was his stats crazy? Giant stats
through that's crazy? His stats are stupid.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Travis Hunter, full time starter at both wide receiver and
quarter leads uh leads receiving touchdowns, which I feel like
to me is like a luckstat but he also he
also has like the third most yards in the group
with receiving yards. He's got like a eleven hundred and
fifty two receiving yards.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Do you got any interceptions?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, he's got like he's got what like four four,
he's got some interceptions. He's doing he's doing the most
with what he's been given. He's playing both ways on side,
on side.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Okay, well both ways both ways at the at the
college level. Yeah, like a real both ways, not like
a special teams like I play dB and special teams
like no, like I really play offensive defense and special.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Travis Hunter eleven, you know, eleven one hundred and fifty
two receiving yards, four interceptions, So that's an electric heisman.
I'm I'm going to be off sides on this because
I just feel like that's a giant no matter who
he's played. And they're like, oh, he hasn't played anyway,
he played organ and like he still he still put
(31:20):
up his numbers. He still put up his numbers. The
man has twenty five hundred yards in thirteen games, twenty
four ninety seven to be exact, twenty nine tds. No, No,
it's literally on pace, you know whatever to break Bery's
it has been done in thirty seven years.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, if he does it, if he breaks it, then
yeah yeah. I mean if he doesn't break it, no, right,
but if he breaks it, yeah, no, no question.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I'll say with with the college playoff situation, he plays
sixteen games, he breaks three bands, give him, give him
whatever he desires.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Give him bro like I've been. I'm still on sides
with U. Yeah, with Travis, with Travis, but Jent, it's
going stupid. I wouldn't want to be in that committee room.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And no doubt, all right, just stick it to the
college room. Let's go with Deon Sanders coach Prime, consider
making the lead to the NFL to coach your son.
All sides, all sides, offside, stay stay in college. You've
seen a lot of college coaches.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And Lanning, Dan Lanning might have a better shot. Mm hmm.
That's just my opinion. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay, Look, I'll say you've seen college coaches go pro
and go get relegated right now?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, you got you gotta gotta do it. Two three more.
You can't hit, You can't hit. He can barely hit.
The n I l come in with your son. That's
too much pressure mass.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Then that's pressure you say that, But also you know
he's he's been his son's coach his entire life.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And the NFL though, you know that, right, you're going
to face on the line you're putting, you know, like
it's like, come on, let's just get in there. Make
his name. Then if you still want to, then you
get in there, right? Should should there?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Sud there doesn't go crazy and he gets replaced and
you got to replace him.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Now you're in a predecition you they replace you, right,
you know they never know what can happen.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I don't know, Yeah, I mean you know, Dion's legacy
is a Hall of fame. Ever nobody can tain his legacy.
At this point, he's just adding accouture mass like the
little side dishes to it, like he's having side missions
of fun.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I think he's getting too much in Colorado. I wouldn't
I wouldn't give all that right now.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Absolutely the NFL, absolutely, yeah, he has full control.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So why would you give that up to maybe not
have that? All? Right?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
But we're both we're both off sides on that. Bill
Belichick has agreed to become the unc Football head coach,
off sides or on side, I'm not affected by it.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
He just wants to go get paid college money and.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Just get a and and yeah, I'm definitely definitely on side.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Because now he is full control.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
He had down Neil for control of the Patriots. What
do you think is going to happen at the college level,
college level where you can control that. Yeah, yeah, I'm
good with that one. You see, Hey, Now, as much
as we play football, and I got a son, I'm like, hey, man,
go play basketball, go shoot. When you get hurt whatever
it is, like, you can go, like you can take
weeks off. You get hurting football, you gotta play through
(34:38):
that pain, baby, right you you break a ridge?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
He turned down turn down medical assistance in football, Like, nah,
I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
No, you're limping, No, don't worry about it. I'll be
all right.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Basketball, baseball, get a doctor right now. I got you.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I didn't seen boys get carried off for like a
greade hamstreaking.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'm like, what I done? Take that up and play
through it. Ain't no. But either way, Juan Soto signs
a record breaking.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
MLB deal fifteen years with the Mets, seven sixty five
the players prioritize loyalty to a team and its fans
over chasing record breaking contracts outside or onside.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
On side, get your money, mane get your money, not
a little change, get the whole thing. M I need
my money, and I need it now.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Man, I'm too big on loyalty. But if you ever
break break a record breaking like if I'm like, oh,
the saintscot you know, twenty or eighteen change for your year,
and the Miami Dolphins come in with like, hey we
got thirty seven for you.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
All right?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Man? Oh man, I really want to stay. Get close, Saints,
get close. All you gotta do is get close. I
don't need any record breaking, just get close. Yeah, that'll
put things in perspective. But also, I've never even touched
free free agency. I've never had a chance to look
at the window. So I'm just speaking from biased opinion
(36:06):
that man. So hey, I'm I'm I'm on side with
the prior a prioritizing loyalty over money. I'm I'm gonna
prioritize that on side, all right. Vikings Cam buying them
and Josh medalist celebration from White Chicks Dance Battle Best
celebration of the off season offside on side?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Hey yeah hit that? Hey yeah he did that.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Nope, I'm gonna say off side, and only because I
want to double back on a cam buying home celebration
when he did the uh the break the Australian Breakdancer joint.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
He did the Australian Breakdancer. Hit him with the final polls.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
It was, it was current relevant just sort of happened
in this past Olympics. For the relevancy alone, I had
to go his way. But the fact that they yeah
they yeah, I'm gonna say all sides just for that
reason alone.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
They've been going crazy, They've been practicing.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
It, they've been having high success.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Jones over there, Mmmm, that's where he ended up.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, man, we may have depending on how d C
and out come go, we may have to call him
four games yeah, four games a bro. Yeah, we got Jake,
We got Jake Haynes or Spencer Rattlers, so we might
be all right.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
But also that's who number three was, Jake Han.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, he can spin, but now you've got to format
the game plan around him. So like also, you know,
Daniel Jones, Okay, we may have to call you, you know, yeah,
we got we got forty something for you, but got
four games.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I didn't. I didn't look into that. But how does
that work when somebody, like a dude has a big
contract and then they get traded on their contract or
he I guess he got released. He got released, so
what does that mean? So now like he's on a
new team. So like what he's on a new team.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
So it just depends did he did he get picked
up active contract or did he was he added practice
squad guy?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
But either way, he's sort of a you know, at
this way so that that last contract doesn't get honored.
He only gets to guarantee money.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, absolutely, once once you get fired, you get fired,
so you guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You just do what you're guaranteed and then that's it.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, the true guarantees, the true guarantees, because you know,
guys be like, oh yeah, you know, two hundred million
dollars contract, one hundred and eighty five guaranteed. But the
true guarantees, that's the stuff that you know, doesn't bar injury,
doesn't bar playtime. I'm only looking at true guaranteed money. Like,
if they fire me today, what do I walk away with?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Everybody? You know, the.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Contracts are filled with the sneaky verbage. Now, got to
know your ins and outs of contracts, but you got
the right people, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Okay, yeah, all right, perfect, Yeah, that's it. That's it,
hey man. You know, I appreciate you tapping in with
the pot. You know, like the last four games, O crazy,
I gotta go get it. Yeah, in fact, get it
specifically in two weeks play the best game you've ever had.
Hopefully I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right, bro, Hey, thank you for
tapping in with Off the Edge podcast.
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Hey man, we were back at it.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
But we'll get into it. We were good, We're good now.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Uh, you know, we go from going off head to
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the New New York Giants caveon Thibodeau on the show. Uh,
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This episode is bound to be a good one. We're
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(00:39):
Cavon coming back on the on the pod bro, you
know for the monthly Stop in to check in if
you will.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
How are you feeling you good man, I'm I'm happy
to be back, but I'm mad that y'all. I'll be honest,
I'm supposed to have that one man overtime just for
the record, just so you know, we had, y'all, we
went overtime.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Fact that we went to the to the halftime and
I was like, man, we winning this game for a
show and you come back and score fourteen eleven when.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I tell you your score to weird score.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We missed two field goals, y'all almost took what y
y'all y'all took one back to the crib off.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Off of fluke fluke call question, but I wasn't. I
would say it was a fluke. I don't even know
real question. But now I'm just talking. Yeah, you can't
complain it is. That's the game. Hey, it's it's any
given Sunday.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
But fourteen eleven we're going into it and I'm like,
all right, cool, you know sexy Dexy aka you know
Dexter Lawrence a monster in the middle. For y'all, it
was down, you know. You guys got got rid of
Daniel Jones, which.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
We had some dudes step up, like it wasn't just
you know, it was we were playing you know, like
kind of like band of misfits, like band of brothers.
Like I'm talking about guys who you and Bernsey are
nice now? It was it was It was tough. It
was tough, but a lot of guys stepped up. It
was dope, you know. For for our defense perspective, we
did pretty well, but.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Y'all stopped that. Y'all stopped the hell out to run.
I'm not I'm not even sure who the interior was.
They was out there splitting two gays.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, y Duri, who else? Jordan Riley?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It was cooking And I was like, I said, I
had I had thought I knew Elik Neighbors game.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I ain't know. He was like that like that, yeah
he got it. He got some juice to him.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was like, oh, he's just like one of these
quick cats. Bro broke like four or five tackles.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Bro Like yeah, you know, it's just like he's aerodynamic.
That's the way to put it. Stay on his feet.
He got balanced. He knows how to bounce off tackles.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Right, I mean, you know you you came off with
a sack against a young, young.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Hater one that was late, too late.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
We saw a little Tommy cutletz take the game for
a play me me. I was like, oh, granted, were
getting one right now. And then it was it was
like a little read option. Hey me, grandall met this
running back in the backfield so quick.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, had us too, was doing.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Hey, hey, literally we came to the game knowing though.
It was like it was like our defense versus their defense.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, you know, nah, well our offense had a chance.
Drew Locke was cooking up at the end. He was
serving in that point, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Servant brother, like Channel Prime Matt Ryan in twenty fifteen,
boy was releasing this off of two step drops. We're
in his face almost every other play, and that man
was dropping dimers.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, it was, it was. It was an exciting game
from my perspective. It was fun. I just you know, man, Yeah,
for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
To be on the opposite side of that, I mean,
especially since you know, with the playoff picture as tightness
is getting, it's like you need every whin and any
one of those could be a chance. Yeah. Uh yeah.
And Lanta lost Tampa Temple one. But I think we're
two games behind with four games left. We have to
(04:06):
you know, we we Yeah, we gotta, we gotta find
our way.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
In my hopes, Bro, I need my hopes, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I was.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I was gonna say that part.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Just good luck, bro, forget it. My dog.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Another now that we're not ops, bro, like man who
got this up coming week?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
We got Baltimore, Man, Baltimore on my birthday. Yeah, I'm
not too worried, though, I'll say you have a secret weapon.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
The key the key to uh, the key to that
is is the edge edge on that between you and Birdsey.
Y'all athletic is hell enough to actually.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No, we got like a secret weapon some like secret sauce. Okay,
yeah we got something. We got something. Yeah, you know
it's gonna be a great game. Damn excited.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Just just just saw you know, y'all gonna catch that
freshly cut, more aerodynamic Derrick Henry boy just cut like
seventeen pounds worth the dreads off.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I don't know if you saw the hand.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Hand man, right, you know, man, you know, hey, I
got the car roads. I'm happy for you, right, set
you free with the remaining games left.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Uh? Are you trying to be the spoiler? Are you
trying to mess up playoffs? In my training? At my trying?
Like I said, hey, I didn't catch nobody, but we're
gonnahoop some ass on the way down to don't catch nobody.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Talk them out because after Ravens, after the Ravens, y'all
got the falcons, and I need, I need.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You got the falcons, then we got the eat. Uh,
we might have a coat coats and wes. Yeah, so yeah,
we gotta go out with a bang. Me personally, I'm
trying to string together some good games. So I gotta
just keep right, keep opening up a can of whoop.
You need that, need that? Yeah, it's cool. Cool if
y'all win this week. I hope everybody underestimated to just
so we could just keep hold teams the fourteen, holding
(06:03):
teams to ten, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Defense, hold on team to seventeen. You really be like help,
you know, just keep going now, you just keep working, yea,
get it right. Absolutely injuries, you know, end of the season. Boy,
the injury I had, I had Derek Carr go Superman
on y'all and and missed the first time he would
(06:26):
he reached out for the first and did get it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And now I'm we was ready to go over time.
But I hope he's all right.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You know me too. I'm still I'm still waiting. I'm
still waiting on a ticker.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Like I saw someone on the little ESPN tracker like, hey,
Derek Carr may miss I texted him.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I was like immediately, I said.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Hey, bro, you said you were okay, you said you
were okay.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Jumped, didn't get it. Then the backup came in and
it was just like it's something about like we had
the the backup came in, get the sack, get the turnover.
Oh it's going over time. We're about to go overtime
with the backup.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh man, Brazi over the over the top of somebody
for the block kick.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
The play before I really like, had Drew locked just
been regular Drew locked, Bro, that would have been a sack.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
The play before the end, like the Drew lock that
we know, that would have been a sack. This man
he was he was cooking.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
He's two step dropped back release hand hand on hand, Bro,
like my hands in his palm ball release. I said, Bro,
I needed to seal that, like I needed that for me.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, I needed that.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Brian Maze finished that thing. But you know, uh, he's
that that that block punt situation.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I heard a lot of people. Look, Chiefs won a.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Game with with the kick that hit the pole and
then bounced in whatever whatever magic seance positive energy.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
We got to get that we're not aligned.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The Chokras ain't a lie.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Because too many times it's a flag. Like Bro stars
just on the line first.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Bro, early early in the season, when you're like you're like,
oh we lost by two four six, You're like, bro,
one one possession, you lively like, just finish it, finish it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We did it too. It's funny, Hope. I believe we're
gonna do it, and we did it. And we did it. Bro.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That's when I tell you, when I tell you pain
for real, Like I know exactly you feel.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Last week the week before y'all we played the.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Rams and you know, like offense was driving in to
tie it up to go into overtime and just didn't
like it was about.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
To throw it. Just didn't you lose on that over
time and people grabbing him. It's like, yeah, come on,
we're gonna go. We're gonna do this. Finna do this,
miss it? Oh, this game over, it's over.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I gotta take I gotta take the field for this knee,
they're gonna take it. I want to punch somebody right now.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Like somebody's asked me, like, oh yeah, who up, you up?
Yeah up.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I gotta put hands on this person one one last time.
But you know, I mean for you, just for your
future alone, you know, like you said, you need them
sacks for you.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Know, my dog, my dog parents. You know, he got
a sack. I got a sack. He's like, oh yeah,
were going back. We canna rush. I'm like, yeah, let's
do it. Like yeah, let's do it over time. Yeah. No, no, bro,
you got four games left.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
What you try to pull off for the four games
because I mean after that, after this year, the Giants
got to put pick up your fifth year if they're smart.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
But you talk, you just went heavy talk. I'm just
saying that's real talk. That's real talk. So and it's funny.
I had a lot of people talking to me about
the fifty option bringing that up. But right, man, I
got to do his best I can, period. That's just
kind of the answer. I got to play good football,
so starting with the run game, just shutting it down.
(10:00):
I think I graded out pretty well my last two games,
which was good stat wise. You know, obviously I got
three sacks, so you want to finish with at least
one one a game. So you'll say seven if I
if I can, and eight nine if I if I'm lucky,
and I'm gonna put the work in and try to
(10:20):
get it. But I think just I gotta play good football.
You know, regardless of the stats. Obviously we're not in
the best winning situation, so you can't you know, say
I'm gonna go get ten sacks and you know we're
not winning. But I think, you know, continuously with all
of our our leaders being out and you know, different
people having a step up, it kind of thrust me
(10:41):
into a leadership role kind of late in the season.
So I think it's just good for me kind of
developing as a leader and developing as you know, a
player in this league to a kind of take control,
finish strong, and then you know, play good football, right right,
I think it'll be good. I'm not really too worried obviously,
you know, you know, when you when you're losing, you know,
(11:02):
regimens change things like that. You never know how things go,
so you can't really like obviously a fifty option guaranteed,
you know, obviously nothing is guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So nothing's in life guarantee.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, nothing's guaranteed. So you just I just got to
keep playing these last four games best.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I can broh in my mind, I remember, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What would you say, yeah, just saying as a first
as a.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
First rounder of my third year, Uh, I was I was.
I was hoping, like they wouldn't pick up my fift
year option.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I was like, I was like, don't pick it up.
Don't pick it up. Don't pick it up. Don't pick
it up.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Because that fifty year option.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
What were your stats like? Third year? I think that
was the first Pro Bowl, so I think I was like,
I went off that year, so it might have been
like eleven or twelve sacks. Okay, see me and my
third year, no Pro Bowl, trying to get seven. Got
eleven half last year, no Probos.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yet you hit double digits already though, like I did.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I did, which was good. You know, that's a good floor.
But for a lot of a lot of great pass.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Rushers that never hit double digit sacks what we call
considered a great pass rusher. But at the same time,
I hold I hold my abilities to my run game
first and always have you to me too.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It gotta be run game because you don't start You're
not you know, bro, you you rushing third and four.
Guess what you're not really doing. You're not getting this
the ability to cook you.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You're rushing third and eight. And that's what people don't understand.
When you we have a good great run stopping in
and then you get to rush third and eight year
that's your third and favorable. Now the quarterback has to
go through a read or two third and three to five.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's one reason show I got to start putting my
game together, Like I have a good game pass rushing,
but it be a bad run game or a great
game run, you know, to run defense, but bad pass rushing.
I got to just keep kind of stringing them like
dominant runs, dominant pass, Like you just finish.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It about matchups, Like you meet a team, You're like,
I'm about to whoop this boys ass in the run game.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It is best football I've been playing, bro and but.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
All of a sudden they go play action on you.
So now you're like, I'm stopping this run. Dang convert
to pass? Yeah yeah absolutely, but you know, look, I
hope the best word. But also that money different, Like
that's option for you. Yeah the fifty option is good
or bad?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Do you think? What is it? I don't know if
you got those numbers, man, like I be intrigued. I
don't have known them numbers for ten years. It hasn't
it hasn't been I saw. I think it's like sixteen
mil for the year or something like that, like one
year sixteen mil for the fifty bad.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's not it's not terrible.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's not terrible. Leg Yeah it ain't. It ain't it
ain't thirty five. Yeah, it ain't up there. But but
guess what, yess what I it ain't bad. That's amazing. Yeah. Look,
fifty option might have been. I don't get it, So
how does it work if they don't get it? If
they don't get it, the fourth year is is you
you going with? Every fourth year is no matter?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
You I could go, oh okay, they could try to
resign me, right, but I could go anywhere. Yeah, after
your fourth year then you know, but the team that
makes sense. The team is always going to have like
why would I not do it for your option to
keep that control? Exactly? I mean it makes sense. I
don't want to go just like, yeah, I mean you
know what you want to give. Why would you want
(14:12):
to give, you know, another team the option to take
your player exactly? I mean the Giants did it with Saquon,
so like, let's runt office next time.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Absolutely not even not gonna talk about like would he
didn't he just break the then he just in a
single season for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, as a former teammate, As a former teammate, like
you love to see former teammates have success and just
wish and you on your you know jersey in your
locker room. Man, you know, you know what I do
want to think about is just like you know, we
talked about leadership, but I know we messed up a
couple of punts during our game and you've seen coaches
(14:55):
go after players like you know, this is what we
need for.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
This is exactly what we expect. This is what we
we have to get from you. What do you what
do you think about?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know those those the fire and nature of coaches,
like the talk, the rhetoric, a coach who may or
may not get in your face. You know you you talk,
you think about like Sean Payton Russell last year situation
right or this year shoot Darren Rizzy my dog Alvin
Kamara had had to go grab it. Riz was like, hey, man,
(15:24):
like let let let hay Ball make it bro Like.
Players are players. You know, we're not perfect people, so
there's gonna be some mess ups. But you know what
it does like for some players, I feel like it
like that raw raw that in your face, that fire
brimstone can motivate a player or can make a player break.
And for me, if you're not motivated motivated enough by yourself,
sometimes you need a.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Kick in the ass to get going. I definitely like
a coach that will you know, talk talk talk is talk.
But I would say, you know, I'm a I'm kind
of like a rebel type player. So like I like
a communication coach, like, tell me, tell me what I'm
doing wrong, over what I need to do right, Let's
let's talk about the problem so I can be better.
(16:05):
I think that, you know, sometimes unnecessary yelling or you know,
even players sometimes, like players sometimes when a coach tell
them something, they getting their head too much and start
doing a bunch of unnecessary stuff and it's like, bro,
he just hes just correcting you, you know, right. So
I think either way, you don't. The line of communication
gotta be open, the relationship got to be there, and
(16:26):
that fire needs to be had just for the game
of football, you know, just for the the mindset of
half the time. You can solve your problems with violence
in this sport over anything else.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Bro. I literally I literally like be going to practice
training camp. I'd be like, hey, I bring my hands
work every day and somebody, somebody got to see him.
Now I'm like, I'm gonna choke I'm gonna choke you out,
you out or somebody like, but somebody gotta get choked out.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And it's yeah, it's too much that side thurn in
the sport to have it like a soft culture.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Just man, you know, like the setting effect, the who
when I say setting, Like whether is it game day?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I'm up before I do? Or is it that you've
seen them? You've seen the Miami stuff about them playing
the Bills. You see, okay, you know just how they
like Miami plays in the snow, like and most of
the time they're playing the snow. It's just a funny coincidence.
Obviously they I'm playing the snow, so obviously the Bills
are going to be better in the snow. Right. Just
(17:26):
the idea that, you know, like the standard that you're setting,
Like everybody's cold, your the coaches cold, the sideline cold,
everybody cold. They talking talking about the cold. Cre You're
creating issues, you know what I'm saying, How you can't
You're you're setting yourself up familiar you know, I think
(17:47):
it starts with you know, top down obviously with leadership
and setting the culture. So yeah, you definitely need to
come to me. I like a coach that's fired up,
you know, at all levels. When I when it's my
turn to have a son and my son is playing football,
I need a coach that's gone, you know, be military
on them.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Oh I hope you do have a son.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Bro. In my mind, I say, every man deserves a man.
I got three daughters, and I love them, but they
make you softer, like like when you gotta when you
got a son, You're like, yo, he look up to me.
I got to do it the right way, you know
what I'm saying, Like like no, I gotta go hard,
Like if it wasn't just for me, it's for him.
Like can't can't have my kid going to school talk
about your daddy's saw.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I just said that. I just made
the joke to my girl and I said, Man, if
I ever lose a fight, I never let my son
know I lost the fight. He'll never know. He'll always
have to think I'm the strongest, biggest, baddest, Like that's it.
I'm I'm opposite.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
If I ever lost a fan fight, I literally go
to my son and be like yo, but I never
back down, Like it don't matter when lose or draw.
What we don't do is step back because we don't
think we can win. You know what I'm saying, Like like,
I don't care if it's five of them. Guess what,
I didn't stepped all five. I like that because they're
gonna they gonna know I'm crazy about mine.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
What you're gonna do? You tell you got whooped by
Johnny like you like you start sizing you up there
that he you up. He said, I'm about as big
as Johnny. Johnny whooped you the pops, right, But that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So that's what you gotta know. I'm ready for I'm
ready for the action. Are you ready for that action? Like?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Okay, Like, hey, you're gonna win. You can't win every battle, allegedly,
I don't. I don't know one v one defeat. I
know team defeat.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I don't know one v one defeat. But maybe you're
gonna be the first to show me. Hey, you know
you see you see you see all the kings in
UFC get knocked out and they've been undefeated forever.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, I for show on my son to have that perspective,
like he has to be the first one to beat me.
He got it, give me off your list? You oh
you go? You you gonna beat me? Show me?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah? And then if you showed me, show me again,
because that's I want to know. Let you know that
I'm that crazy. How do have to put hands on pops?
If my son ever, like we we get into it,
you know, it's seventeen h old. When the chest get
he ever goes, he go big on me and hopefully
he talked back to his mom and I could leave
with a flying kick, Like I need to know I'm
(20:09):
that crazy. You know what I'm saying, like, oh, you
talk back to white, you talk back to your my wife.
My woman has come because it's me and in the
back put the boxing gloves on. You know what time
were anyway, But you know, just it's it's just great
to you know, have a son and like look at
him and and just even on flag football because I
won't let himlay tackle just yet flag football, Like he's
talking to his teammates and you know, emulating it. But
(20:32):
like it almost made me think what you said earlier, bro,
like it's that business. No, not football was a business.
Players who don't produce shouldn't have a voice.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, I ain't really saying I shouldn't have a voice.
I'm just saying, like, it's just what it is. You know,
it's just it's time on task. Like you got your like, well,
your middle linebacker plays every snap like what he is
Listen to him? Yeah, it takes are Our nose guard
has played every game to see you know whatever, Yes,
(21:04):
nice acts. We should listen to what he's saying, No doubt.
You gotta know with double shut the hell up when
he talked. If you're thinking about saying something, say it
with your pads and then and then comes head. You
know you should. I have to learn that too, Like okay,
I'm coming in. The stripes I had before last year
(21:24):
or you know, whatever stripes I had, they don't apply here.
M hm. You know these are new stripes. This is
a new situation.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Is a new year, we say, we said, they don't
like you talk about the resume like everything you've done
prior it's not gonna help you in.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
This now exactly that that credit that credit does not
I don't go here. Ain't no rollo, ain't no rollover minutes.
What have you done for me lately? Are you your
run stoppers?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Showed me you stopped run your pastors to show me
you stop the past if you, if you, if you
want them, lockdown corners, lock down any and everything.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, that's it. If your name is no. But that's
the league because it's too hard. And that's the hard
part about this league. But that's why we get you.
That's why we get paid. We paid because it's hard, right,
It's the reality of like, you know, do it again,
show me again and again and again.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Absolutely its It's one of those proven leagues. And it's
not a prove it one time, it's a prove it
every time. Teams love your upside until they think they
can replace you upside.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Even me. I'm sitting here right now, like damn three
years down, no Pro Bowls, oh man, legacy, Yeah you know,
like now I got to play for another seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Hey Rob be your fourteen Yeah, I'm vying for the
Super Bowl. You know, like I done had all the
personal success.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I don't own your contract.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Then next after next year okay, yeah bro, like and
I'm like better go chase.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You No, Bro, the legacy push on that. I don't.
I only know black and gold. Bro, I'm good with it.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Like like that guy Pop Pops played thirteen years for
the Vikings, Bro, Like loads run deep for me, Bro,
So I'm hard pressed. That's what I told you, Like
you saw me in that nose nose tackle detacl spot
anybody else keeping like, Bro.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I'm like, wow, I'll just stop the run.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I want my team to defensive scheme. You know, I
know we touched on that last week. Yeah, not last week,
a couple of weeks ago. How's that? How's that changed?
You know? How's that summed up? Obviously? Yeah it hasn't, hasn't.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
We sort of started to go back towards that for
man rush. But for man rush you still got Carl
Grandison on the edge, Chase Young on the edge, and
Brian Berzi gone stupid in the middle of that. Boy
got with seven and a half, seven and a half
sacks in the middle and then I'm over here like
fighting for my life at this three techniques sometimes to
lie down to the one like new Territory, Oh, well,
you gotta figure it out now, got to figure it out, right,
(23:52):
So you know, it just all comes down to the
business and nature of the defense and the game. Combination, combination, combination,
enough on the on the field stuff the off the field.
(24:15):
Who's who's you guys, multi Paid Man nominee?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Was that Slayton? There is Slaton? Yeah, yeah, shout out
to slay Walter Paid Man in the Year.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Come on, yeah yeah, now he's O.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I guess for that. Take that as a challenge. You're
nominated too.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Hey, I'm my team. I'm my team's Walters Paid Man
of the Year nomination. Bro. You know so I'm like,
I'm like, that's it's a kudos to everything that you
do off the field. And at the same time, there's
still more to be done, just like, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Way more. It never stops. That's the hard part. It's like,
even after if you win the Alter Payton you gotta
go do it again. Yeah, that's not that's fine with
the year you won the Walter Payton War, Like that's
not enough. But that's it's it's even beyond that.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
It's like you see guys like you know they're Slaton,
and you see you know, guys like Travis Kelt or whatever,
it's phenomenal a war because everybody puts on a bigger
platform for their cause, and for me, mine is always
gonna be like the next generation education, uh and pushing
forth for that, for for that. But but you look
at look around, You're like, damn, everybody's everybody's got he's
(25:20):
got he's doing this, that, this, that, Like somebody's created
a school, somebody's out here like really creating major impact,
major motion, and you know, feeding feeding the hundreds of
thousand people digging digging whales in the water, you know,
like Chris Long.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Used to do or with the water Boys.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Uh, Miles, Miles Garrett was a part of it for
a second, and he's just like, bro, I whatever I
do does just feel like it's enough. Like I'm impacting
you know, my community, which is great, but it's like
how much more can I give?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
You ever like it's I feel like I think it
challenged everything though.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So you know me, man, it'll drive you crazy, just
like looking at that and having that mindset, because it
doesn't it doesn't end. You know, there're always people to help.
There always be a mission. That's the mission is bigger
than you, you know, so I think you just have
to kind of find where you're satisfied in it. Even
with the league, Like you could Chase, you played thirteen,
(26:11):
you could play fifteen, you could try to play twenty.
Their dudes, I didn't even know. There are a lot
of dudes who haven't retired yet. You know, they're just
waiting to continue playing. And I think, you know, it's
all at the end of the day, like people are
going to judge you whether you help. And it's the
funny part. Whether you help a thousand people, you win
Walter Payton, if you don't produce in the field, people
are still going to talk bad about you your football skill.
(26:33):
So it's like that's not gonna you know, that's not
going to make you happier with the product being put out.
You know, it's not going to make you more fulfilled
because you know you're still gonna have your same problems.
You're helping other people, but like your problems are the same.
So I don't know, you just got to find what
you know, what level or capacity you know do you
(26:54):
feel comfortable with And you know, I help the people
that help the people that you are closest to. I
think that's one place where like I lose track. You
try to be on this super grand scale and oh,
I want to help everybody in the world. But it's like, nah,
just help your family in your community and your neighborhood
and your state and your you know, like be more
(27:15):
local than Nashville. B Yeah, got to be micro before
you go macro. Like you know, like I was like, man,
I want to send all these kids to college. All right,
well let's focus on what I can do family.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, Like like, oh I got I got cousins and
went to Okay, well they're headed towards college.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Now open it up New Orleans, East Hey, New Orleans,
you know, North Bank, whatever, New Orleans in general. Can
I try and help y'all? And you take it from there.
And that's where it sort of it sort of happened
for me though, like I thought micro first and then
now thirteen years later macro. But I mean, I still
do my same school visits every Tuesday. I started with
my rookie year. I'm still out in the community doing elementary,
(27:55):
middle school, high school, whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
It's funny. I think that's the difference too, when you
look at like New Orleans versus in LA or New York,
because I came in thinking macro like, oh, let's let's
have a platform. Let's yeah, platform, like, let's figure out
how we can help the masses. And then I had
to kind of step back, like, let me actually realize,
(28:18):
like you know, like there are twenty kids that I
can help at my hand, right here in front of me.
Let me help these twenty you know, they're you know,
like you say, cousins, there are a family around me
or people right in my vision or maybe not in
my vision, but there are people that need the help,
that are local that I could help, that I should
be and I think I had to and I think
(28:38):
it's been good and not necessarily change my mind, but
just connect those two platforms, you know, from the international
or the national to the local platform, and you know,
continue to kind of uplift you know both right.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
In fact, in fact, brother, take care of the small
things and the bigger things will follow suit, exactly, you know,
like you know again, I'm here fourteen, so you you
have to hear three. We'll talk in another five six years, bro,
when you you're over established and you you created, you know,
you'll met Gala Foundation. You know what I'm saying Like
that that's when you know, when football field meets off
(29:15):
the field, that creates an even larger impact. But when
you talk when you take care of three or four local,
local kids and there's inspired both, there's a chance that
you've created such a positive impact that that next generation
is gonna feel what you what you've left from the
kids that.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
You talk to. Ye, And that's what it's That's what
it's all about.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
But anyways, all right, but enough of that, let's uh,
let's pivot get to the off side or on side segment.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
We've done this before. You're familiar with this one.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Offside versus on side For anybody news to the pod
is I'm gonna throw out some of the biggest storyline scenarios.
If you're you're on side, you're all for it. If
you're off size that you're against it. Uh, major push
winning the Heisman. Travis Hunter should win the Heisman over
ashion gionte off side.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Or on side?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Oh, I'm gonna go. Was his stats crazy? Giant stats
through that's crazy? His stats are stupid.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Travis Hunter, full time starter at both wide receiver and
quarter leads uh leads receiving touchdowns, which I feel like
to me is like a luckstat but he also he
also has like the third most yards in the group
with receiving yards. He's got like a eleven hundred and
fifty two receiving yards.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Do you got any interceptions?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, he's got like he's got what like four four,
he's got some interceptions. He's doing he's doing the most
with what he's been given. He's playing both ways on side,
on side.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Okay, well both ways both ways at the at the
college level. Yeah, like a real both ways, not like
a special teams like I play dB and special teams
like no, like I really play offensive defense and special.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Travis Hunter eleven, you know, eleven one hundred and fifty
two receiving yards, four interceptions, So that's an electric heisman.
I'm I'm going to be off sides on this because
I just feel like that's a giant no matter who
he's played. And they're like, oh, he hasn't played anyway,
he played organ and like he still he still put
(31:20):
up his numbers. He still put up his numbers. The
man has twenty five hundred yards in thirteen games, twenty
four ninety seven to be exact, twenty nine tds. No, No,
it's literally on pace, you know whatever to break Bery's
it has been done in thirty seven years.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, if he does it, if he breaks it, then
yeah yeah. I mean if he doesn't break it, no, right,
but if he breaks it, yeah, no, no question.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I'll say with with the college playoff situation, he plays
sixteen games, he breaks three bands, give him, give him
whatever he desires.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Give him bro like I've been. I'm still on sides
with U. Yeah, with Travis, with Travis, but Jent, it's
going stupid. I wouldn't want to be in that committee room.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And no doubt, all right, just stick it to the
college room. Let's go with Deon Sanders coach Prime, consider
making the lead to the NFL to coach your son.
All sides, all sides, offside, stay stay in college. You've
seen a lot of college coaches.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And Lanning, Dan Lanning might have a better shot. Mm hmm.
That's just my opinion. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay, Look, I'll say you've seen college coaches go pro
and go get relegated right now?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, you got you gotta gotta do it. Two three more.
You can't hit, You can't hit. He can barely hit.
The n I l come in with your son. That's
too much pressure mass.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Then that's pressure you say that, But also you know
he's he's been his son's coach his entire life.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And the NFL though, you know that, right, you're going
to face on the line you're putting, you know, like
it's like, come on, let's just get in there. Make
his name. Then if you still want to, then you
get in there, right? Should should there?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Sud there doesn't go crazy and he gets replaced and
you got to replace him.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Now you're in a predecition you they replace you, right,
you know they never know what can happen.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I don't know, Yeah, I mean you know, Dion's legacy
is a Hall of fame. Ever nobody can tain his legacy.
At this point, he's just adding accouture mass like the
little side dishes to it, like he's having side missions
of fun.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I think he's getting too much in Colorado. I wouldn't
I wouldn't give all that right now.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Absolutely the NFL, absolutely, yeah, he has full control.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So why would you give that up to maybe not
have that? All? Right?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
But we're both we're both off sides on that. Bill
Belichick has agreed to become the unc Football head coach,
off sides or on side, I'm not affected by it.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
He just wants to go get paid college money and.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Just get a and and yeah, I'm definitely definitely on side.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Because now he is full control.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
He had down Neil for control of the Patriots. What
do you think is going to happen at the college level,
college level where you can control that. Yeah, yeah, I'm
good with that one. You see, Hey, Now, as much
as we play football, and I got a son, I'm like, hey, man,
go play basketball, go shoot. When you get hurt whatever
it is, like, you can go, like you can take
weeks off. You get hurting football, you gotta play through
(34:38):
that pain, baby, right you you break a ridge?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
He turned down turn down medical assistance in football, Like, nah,
I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
No, you're limping, No, don't worry about it. I'll be
all right.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Basketball, baseball, get a doctor right now. I got you.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I didn't seen boys get carried off for like a
greade hamstreaking.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'm like, what I done? Take that up and play
through it. Ain't no. But either way, Juan Soto signs
a record breaking.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
MLB deal fifteen years with the Mets, seven sixty five
the players prioritize loyalty to a team and its fans
over chasing record breaking contracts outside or onside.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
On side, get your money, mane get your money, not
a little change, get the whole thing. M I need
my money, and I need it now.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Man, I'm too big on loyalty. But if you ever
break break a record breaking like if I'm like, oh,
the saintscot you know, twenty or eighteen change for your year,
and the Miami Dolphins come in with like, hey we
got thirty seven for you.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
All right?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Man? Oh man, I really want to stay. Get close, Saints,
get close. All you gotta do is get close. I
don't need any record breaking, just get close. Yeah, that'll
put things in perspective. But also, I've never even touched
free free agency. I've never had a chance to look
at the window. So I'm just speaking from biased opinion
(36:06):
that man. So hey, I'm I'm I'm on side with
the prior a prioritizing loyalty over money. I'm I'm gonna
prioritize that on side, all right. Vikings Cam buying them
and Josh medalist celebration from White Chicks Dance Battle Best
celebration of the off season offside on side?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Hey yeah hit that? Hey yeah he did that.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Nope, I'm gonna say off side, and only because I
want to double back on a cam buying home celebration
when he did the uh the break the Australian Breakdancer joint.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
He did the Australian Breakdancer. Hit him with the final polls.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
It was, it was current relevant just sort of happened
in this past Olympics. For the relevancy alone, I had
to go his way. But the fact that they yeah
they yeah, I'm gonna say all sides just for that
reason alone.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
They've been going crazy, They've been practicing.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
It, they've been having high success.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Jones over there, Mmmm, that's where he ended up.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, man, we may have depending on how d C
and out come go, we may have to call him
four games yeah, four games a bro. Yeah, we got Jake,
We got Jake Haynes or Spencer Rattlers, so we might
be all right.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
But also that's who number three was, Jake Han.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, he can spin, but now you've got to format
the game plan around him. So like also, you know,
Daniel Jones, Okay, we may have to call you, you know, yeah,
we got we got forty something for you, but got
four games.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I didn't. I didn't look into that. But how does
that work when somebody, like a dude has a big
contract and then they get traded on their contract or
he I guess he got released. He got released, so
what does that mean? So now like he's on a
new team. So like what he's on a new team.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
So it just depends did he did he get picked
up active contract or did he was he added practice
squad guy?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
But either way, he's sort of a you know, at
this way so that that last contract doesn't get honored.
He only gets to guarantee money.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, absolutely, once once you get fired, you get fired,
so you guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You just do what you're guaranteed and then that's it.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, the true guarantees, the true guarantees, because you know,
guys be like, oh yeah, you know, two hundred million
dollars contract, one hundred and eighty five guaranteed. But the
true guarantees, that's the stuff that you know, doesn't bar injury,
doesn't bar playtime. I'm only looking at true guaranteed money. Like,
if they fire me today, what do I walk away with?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Everybody? You know, the.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Contracts are filled with the sneaky verbage. Now, got to
know your ins and outs of contracts, but you got
the right people, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Okay, yeah, all right, perfect, Yeah, that's it. That's it,
hey man. You know, I appreciate you tapping in with
the pot. You know, like the last four games, O crazy,
I gotta go get it. Yeah, in fact, get it
specifically in two weeks play the best game you've ever had.
Hopefully I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right, bro, Hey, thank you for
tapping in with Off the Edge podcast.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Hey, for for everybody listening, Man.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
My dog, my Dog Caveon is gonna be a force
me record for the years to come. We're gonna tap
in probably.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Right before the end of season or at least once again.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
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