February 10, 2025 • 39 mins
Hannah Storm, legendary sports media vet, joins Sarah to discuss how women’s sports coverage has changed at major networks during her career, the early days of doing play-by-play for the WNBA, and how she’s been treated differently in the men’s and women’s sports spaces. Then, podcast host Mike Golic Jr. drops by to help develop a winning – and unusual – business plan. Plus, the Unrivaled 1-on-1 countdown is over, an HBCU standout who is changing the game, and a call for platonic valentines.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're once
again asking to move the Super Bowl to Saturday so
we don't have to suffer from a super case of
the Sunday Scaries this.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Time every single year.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It's Monday, February tenth, and on today's show, we'll chat
with the legendary Hannah Storm and the hilarious Mike Goulli Junior,
both of whom I caught up with on Radio Row
in New Orleans. Hannah and I dove into a bunch
of stuff, including how the sentiment toward women's sports has
changed at major networks in recent years and the differences
she's noticed between working in men's.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And women's sports spaces.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And Mike did a little drive by to discuss our
brand new, brilliant business plan investing in babies. Plus the
WNBA News keeps it Coming and HBCU stand up change
in the game, and a chance to send your sports
faves a little love. It's all coming up right after
this happy Monday slices. Here's what you need to know
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today in Unrivaled News. The league's long anticipated one on
one tournament starts today. Thirty of the league's elite competitors
begin their quest for the two hundred thousand dollars top
prize from two to four pm Eastern on True TV
and seven to nine pm Eastern on TNT and True TV.
We'll be interested to see if injured players including Marina Maybury,
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who hasn't seen any time in Unrivaled yet due to
a calf injury, and Alyssa Thomas, who went down with
a knee injury on January twenty fourth and hasn't played since,
are available for this one v one tourney, or if
their opponents like essentially get a first round by Also,
if you're hearing this before tip off, there's still time
to fill out a bracket and send it to us.
You could print out slice Joey Maldonado's or you can
(01:41):
fill one out on the nifty app made by Corey McDonald,
who sent it to us on Blue Sky. We'll link
to both of those in our show notes. Either way,
email us your bracket before tip off, and at the
end of the tourney, we'll flip through them and see
if any of you got close to calling it right.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
More.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Unrivaled News League co founder Nafisa Callier put on a
show Saturday night for the Lunar Owls against her partner
in business, Brianna Stewart and her missed team. The Owls
are now eight to oh after the eighty five to
eighty one win with fees monster thirty eight point fifteen
rebound performance leading the way. So do we put up
twenty three points and seventeen boards in the losing effort. Also,
(02:16):
the game between Lace's BC and Vinyl BC was canceled
on Saturday for quote, player health and safety reasons. Now
no further information has been given as to why, though
it's worth noting that three Laces players had been dealing
with injuries in the lead up to the contest, and
earlier that day, the league announced that it had signed
Keky Jefferson to a relief player contract to add to
that team with.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Just one game on the slate.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Unrivaled hew the fan autograph session and gave out free
food vouchers to folks who wanted them.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
At Ashtalk's Hoops.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Who was out Unrivaled that night, posted video of the
players at tables signing for fans and said quote, they
could have easily just canceled it and moved on, but
they did everything to make it up to the fans.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I love this league.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
End quote to the WNBA, where we've got a homecoming
of sorts. Alicia Clark is returning to the Seattle Storm
after four more were seasons away from the Pacific Northwest.
Clark spent the first nine years of her WNBA career
with Seattle, playing a huge role in the Storm's twenty
eighteen and twenty twenty WNBA titles. She's been with the
ass for the last two years, earning six Women of
the Year honors during Vegas's twenty twenty three title run.
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In a statement published by the Storm on Sunday, Clark
said she's excited to get back to the city where
it all started and the org that first gave her
a chance. Quote, I can't wait to get on the
court with my teammates and get to work.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Seattle.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
We're back sticking with Seattle. French star Gabby Williams is
expected to sign a one year deal to stay with
the Storm. The Olympic silver medalist was cored by the
team last month, but that didn't necessarily mean that she
would be sticking around, per ESPN's Alexa Philip Who quote
sources said it was agreed upon that the team would
honor her desire to be moved should she wish to
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play elsewhere, but Williams wanted to remain in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
End quote. More hoops.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Marina Maybray has requested a trade from the Connecticut Sun,
and her agent has told the ESPN not an altogether
surprising ruest given the mass exodus of players from Connecticut's roster.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Just a reminder.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So far this offseason, the Sun has lost it's starting
five of Alyssa Thomas, Breonna Jones, Dewanna Bonnard, dj A Carrington,
and ty Harris Mabrey, who you remember was traded from
Chicago to Connecticut midway through last season, another trade that
she requested, is currently signed with the Sun through twenty
twenty five with a salary of two hundred and ten
thousand dollars. We'll keep your posted on whether CT honors
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that trade request. In tennis News, American star Coco Goff
made an impactful money move this week. She sent one
hundred thousand dollars donation to the United Negro College Fund,
establishing the Coco Goff Scholarship Program starting and made The
money will go toward providing scholarships for historically Black college
and university students playing competitive tennis. At just twenty years old,
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Goff is now one of the uncf's youngest donors ever,
and in the organization's release about the program, she said, quote,
my family has a deep rooted history with HBCUs, going
all the way back to my great great grandfather, from
aunts and uncles to cousins. HBC to play it a
huge role in shaping who we are. Supporting UNCF and
creating opportunities for student athletes in tennis means a lot
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to me. As a young black athlete, I understand how
impactful it is to see people who look like me
thriving in both sports and education. I want to help
the next generation of student athletes continue pursuing their passion
for tennis while reaching their academic goals. My hope is
that this scholarship gives more young black players the confidence
to chase their dreams, knowing they have a strong community
behind them and a bright future ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
End quote.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Talk about putting your money where your mouth is. Good shit,
coco oh. In slices, We're going to have more on
how you can use your dollars to support HBCUs and
athletes later in the Show in college hoops news, star
UCLA center Lauren Betts announced that she'll return to school
next year and play out her senior season with the Bruins.
Now this is big because she's been projected as a
top five pick on most WNBA mock draft boards, and
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removing herself from the mix will certainly shake.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Up how things look come April.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
At six foot seven, Bets is having an outstanding year
for coach corey closest team. She's averaging twenty point two points,
nine point nine boards and two point nine blocks, plus
she has twelve double doubles and is a top ten
candidate for the Lisa Leslie Award, going to the best
center in women's college hoops. When asked about her decision
to stay another year, Bets told the ESPN quote, I
want to win a national championship, obviously, if not this year,
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then obviously next year. But hopefully we could just do
it both times end quote. And while the prospect of
two straight chips is definitely appealing. She also said the
fact that her little sister, Sienna sixty four forward, is
joining the roster next season was also a big part
of her choice. Ucile is currently ranked number one in
the nation and is all but locked up the number
one overall seed in this year's NCAA Tournament. More College
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Hoops Friends of the Show, coach Vick Schaeffer and sophomore
stud Madison Booker helped number four Texas pull off a
huge upset over number two South Carolina yesterday sixty six
sixty two. It was the game Cock's first regular season
conference loss since twenty twenty one. Booker led the Longhorns
with twenty points and eleven rebounds, and Alesia ful Wiley
paced sc with thirteen off the bench. Also quick shout
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out to Booker for passing the one thousand point mark
a few days ago in a win over Vanderbilt.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
More College Hoops.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
On Sunday, Number nineteen Tennessee fell to number six LSU,
bringing them back down to earth after a few days
in the clouds post yukon win. In case you missed
that thriller you remember last week we told you about
how Tennessee head coach Kim Caldwell was returning to the
sidelines just seven days after giving birth. Well, her legend
continues to grow. On Thursday, her lady Voles picked up
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the program's first win over number five you consints two
thousand and seven, downing them in Knoxville eighty to seventy six.
It was a complete team effort, led by four different
players in double figures, and it marked Tennessee's first win
over a Top ten opponent this season. In the postgame interview,
ESPN's Holly Row asked Caldwell to put into perspective what
she's been able to accomplish since her quick return to
the team, and Caldwell said, simply, quote I.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Want to go home and see my baby boy.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
End quote.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, is this mom's strength could be, but also
a coach and a team reaping the fruits of their labor,
literally breathing new life into a program that's been synonymous
with women's college basketball, and it's awesome to see. Tennessee
will try to bounce back from yesterday's lost when they
face off with Auburn on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
In Hockey News, the.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Annual USA Canada rivalry series has come to a close,
with the Canadians winning this year's.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Five game series three to two.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Third year in a row that the Canucks got us
came down to a decisive fifth game on Saturday night.
In Summerdale Prince Edward Island. The two teams were tied
one to one with just under seven minutes left in
the third period when Canadian Jennifer Gardner found the back
of the net and then Laura Stacey added an empty
netter to secure the three to one victory to the NWSL.
In previous shows, we've noted how Gotham FC has seen
(08:43):
an exodus of top stars during this offseason, but they
are getting a good one back. Mitch Perce signed a
one year contract to return to the team shortly after
preseason started, a preseason that Gotham is spending in Spain. Perce,
who was named MVP of the twenty twenty three NWSL Championship,
missed nearly all of last year after tearing her ACL
and Gotham season opener. That entry also took her out
(09:03):
of contention for the US team's Olympic roster. As for
that aforementioned exodus, which has included the departures of multiple
players including Lynn Bi and Dolo formerly Williams, Yasmine, Ryan,
Jenna Niswanger, and Crystal Dunn. Gotham gm Ya l Averbush
West recently released an open letter to fans about the
team's turbulent offseason, West wrote, in part quote, I'm aware
of the outside narratives surrounding our roster moves. One of
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the most challenging aspects of my job is seeing these
external perspectives contrast with the deep confidence and belief we
have in what we're building at Gotham FC. She continued,
we recognize not every player's journey will align perfectly with
our club's path. Some will thrive and grow with us
for years, while others may desire to move on to
other opportunities. Sometimes we'll decide to move in a different
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direction too. This is the nature of professional sports. She
also said, I know this offseason has been a time
of uncertainty for our fans, and I want you to
know we've worked tirelessly to build a team you'll be
excited to stand behind in twenty twenty five and every
season after. And we aren't done yet. End quote. An
open letter to fans a month ahead of the start
of the season. The Gotham Intrigue continues finally to alpine skiing.
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Over the weekend, American Breezy Johnson won gold in the
women's downhill at the World Championships in Austria. En route
to victory, she clocked eighty six miles per hour, one
of the fastest speeds ever recorded by a woman per
the ap. Johnson, whose motto is fittingly quote like the Wind,
is the first American woman twin downhill gold at the
World champ since Lindsay Vaughn.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And O nine.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Speaking of Vaughn, she finished fifteenth in the race. She
said she's happy with the progress she's made since returning
from a six year retirement.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
End quote.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I put pressure on myself as if it was a
practice run for the Olympics, and I did exactly what
I came here to do.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
End quote. Slices.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
We hanging in there on a post Super Bowl Monday,
Hope you all enjoyed the game. We're actually recording this
before kickoff so I can pass out in a hot
onion dip and do slumber right after the Convetti falls.
So so I don't know. Congrats are the Eagles or
the Chiefs, or Taylor Swift or Kendrick Lamar or I
guess whichever ad makes us buy the most chips and
most importantly, kingrats to my tummy on another successful Super Bowl.
(11:11):
Fullest nacks I'm back at Chicago now after my New
Orleans trip, but there's a little more Radio Row content
coming your way today and in the coming days, including
my interview with NWSL Commissioner Jessica Berman.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So keep an eye out for that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Right now, we got to take a quick break when
we come back my conversation with Hannah Storm, who is
in New Orleans not just to cover the game, but
also to receive the twenty twenty five Pat Summer All Award,
named for the legendary football player and broadcaster and hand
it out annually to a national broadcaster or sports personality
who's had an outstanding career and who's made a significant
impact in their community. Congrats to a true og. You'll
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hear from Hannah next.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Joining us now.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
She's an award winning broadcaster, producer, and director who's been
with the sp since two thousand and eight. A Notre
Dame grad, she started her career at a heavy metal
radio station, and she once sat next to Elvis at
a World Football League game. It's Hannah Storm, Sarah, you
always bring out the most pertinent back to though we
find the most important, most well known thing. By the way,
I mean your incredible interview with Bretty Howard, And that's
all I can think of when we saw her performing
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on the Grammys, was how how much I appreciated her
because of your interview with her, that you uncovered about her. Yeah,
that's the last time we hung out at the espnW summit.
But here we are at Super Bowl Radio Row. A
very different scene. Yeah, very different.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Scene from just a few more men.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, a couple more that I love that you're here,
like carrying the torch for women I am.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And like, I want to get into that because you
and I both in years at ESPN kind of balanced.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
How do we take plumb rules, make money, have.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
A career, be on TV, do the things we want
to do, which predominantly is focused around men's sports, while
continuing to push for women's sports while trying to bring
them into those spaces.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
There's I think two like kind of ways of thought.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
One is just focus on women's sports and hope people
find you or be in all the spaces they already are,
and then see if you can get some more women's covered.
So right, you've covered just about every sport you've been in,
you know, every space behind the scenes. How has it
been watching the conversation change around women's sports and women's
athletes on those shows and in those spaces.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, I mean, I go all the way back to
I was the first play by play voice of the WNBA,
and so you know, at the time, it was great
because NBC devoted great resources to that, you know, all
of the best and we broadcast it just like an
NBA game, and we had an all female production team
behind it as well as on the air. So I
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think about those early days, I think about the resources
that ESPN always put towards women's basketball, towards the tournament,
but then this real misconception that women were the ones
who were going to watch women's sports. And I think
what's more, the evolution has been is men coming along
and being interested in women's sports and women's sports becoming
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you know, very important, viable investment on the business side.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
So I think that's a difference.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I think that's what it took, you know, driven by
women's college basketball.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
As you well know, because also.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You know, I hosted a lot of Olympics and stuff
at NBC, and it.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Would be like, okay, every couple of years.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
You know, women's athletes will have this great profile at
the Olympics, and then they would just basically, you know,
fall off. Yeah, we would forget about them, and they
were sports that we weren't seeing on TV all the
time anyway, gymnastics, right, you're skating and skiing and all
of that. So it's been incredibly gratifying, but it's been
building for a long long time.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And I think a lot of it was sort of
trial and error because to your point, when the WNBA started,
there was this well let's sex them up for the
male gaze, ignoring that a lot of women did want
to watch, and that it also was sort of inauthentic
and didn't fit what we normally do for sports.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But then also there is always.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
This complain of like, well, if women don't want to watch,
why should men. Meanwhile, what we understand about entertainment products
of all kinds is a crowd draws a crowd.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
So if you go to the water cooler and you
want to talk.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
To all your pals about a WNBA game and no
one's watching, that's not as fun as talking about whatever
sport everyone is watching. And so it had to and
I think super Bird talked about this couple years ago.
There needed to be this turning point where the well
wasn't being poisoned before you even had a chance to
get into it. And when it started there was both
a lot of resources and there were some high profile
men dogging it, using it as the butt of jokes,
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making fun of it, so that it became not cool
before anyone had a chance to like it. And now
what we're seeing is this like very natural organic evolution
where it's really cool. They're trendsetters, they're part of the
cultural conversation in a way that has changed people's minds.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
And there's also ownership of the women now in their
own products, So I think that's really important. Unrivaled is
a great example of that. But now that we're seeing
women in power and women owning teams like so that's
really the next level of where this needs to be right.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Like women need to call the shots.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
On women's sports, and that is something that was not
happening and so to me, that's one of the most
important aspects of this.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, because they know they know the product, they know themselves,
they know all the stuff that needs to get to
the higher ups, and a lot of times the disconnect
between the reality of what the league is and who's
watching and who's a part of it versus what the
rich dude usually in charge thinks is pretty pretty well.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Ilso need people at like, you know, invested. So my daughter,
I don't know if you know this, she's a sports trader.
So she works at FanDuel.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
She sets markets, she sets odds, she sets.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Products and lines, and she is the one who created
the unrivaled market okay, for unrivaled basketball. She went to
them and said, we need to be in this business
of unrivaled. She did the She beat the drum for
the women at the Olympics. She is one of the
two people in charge of the WNBA and she is
constantly beating that drum. She is one of three women
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in the world who does what she does for FanDuel. Okay,
who actually is like making the sausage. You need people
in places like that, right that are speaking up, that
are saying still even today, you know, everyone assumes, oh.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, women's sports great, but you still need.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
People at a grassroots level in every business advocating for
women's sports.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And I think that's a part of it too, is
understanding that the larger like sports industrial complex includes pre
and post shows shoulder programs, yes, scambling, all those opportunities.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
To show value in a thing, right, and when you
don't do that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Whether that's the value of going to a game, and
they don't have good halftime entertainment and the concessions aren't good.
All this, you're telling people what the product means and
what it's valued at. And once we started to elevate
some of that in the women's space, that also helps
people see it as on a more of a par
with the men's sty Look at the New York Liberty Games, yeah, right, experience,
Look at the stars.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Look at the games. I go to a lot of
their games, I know, you know, to a lot of
their games, and just look at the kind of people
that it draws. And to the point where in the finals,
it became the place to be yep, for people who
are not even basketball fans, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
And you're getting you know, Gil King is there and
Katie Kirk, and you're getting people like from the news,
you're getting obviously a lot of the music.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
People have you know, fatmen and Jay Hudd and yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And they've Jay Hud who I just adore her on
every level. Talk about a great advocate for just women
and women in sports. But yeah, I just think the
liberty was a phenomenon that really.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Showed what can be possible. I agree they finally won. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You mentioned first play by Plaan, anouncer for the w
in ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Uh, with Annie Myers and lot nice and lots of resources.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Back then, it felt like there we talked about this
on our show. We're watching the arrow go up, and
that's great, but sometimes we do have to say best
or first sense or in twenty years and then we look.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Back and say, Okay, what was happening twenty years ago
that it was even better or higher?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
And some of that was you know, there's publicly reports
about it ESPN executive who buried it on two because
he didn't believe that it should be on main ESPN.
What did you witness between nineteen ninety seven and twenty
twenty five in terms of like not a direct.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Path to where we are having to take.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Some side roads, you know, listen, I mean the reason
the WNBA, I mean that was that, as you well know,
followed the ninety six Olympics and the success of the
women's national team and everything that they had to go
through literally giving up, you know, tar Vandrvere like literally
quitting her jobs, stepping away for a year, and Rebecca
Lobo and others will tell you just how grueling that
year was and what they had to sacrifice right to
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get the WNBA off the board. And that was a
David Stern directive. I want to do this. I'm going
to I'm going to grow women's basketball. I'm going to
grow the game internationally. But coming from that level, that's
why that existed. But I would say, by and large,
when we're talking about everything thing else, it had to
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organically come up and grow and listen when the readings
aren't there, when.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
People aren't watching.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
And let's face that the w NBA place in the summer,
right and so you know it's when the eyeballs are there,
rising tide.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Lifts all boats kind of thing, right though, is it?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It's like, if the iball aren't there, are you giving
it and are you giving.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
It the agency that that it should have? Are you
making it a priority? And it's really to me going
to be really interesting to see how these other leagues
too that are popping up. You know, we've had listen
and these leagues have always been there. By the way,
there's always been you know, hey, let's sort of women's
basketball league. There's been all these sortup leads through the years.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So do we finally have enough traction just it feels
different again to hopefullly have a wave right that is
going to carry these things in a sustainable business model,
And do we have enough investment and enough high profile
people investing.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
In the long run?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Right, like not a reactionary Oh this didn't work in
the first of the second year, but you know, and the.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
W went through a lot of stages.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I mean, I think that's why that's why weren't a
better place now. Is the idea of it being more
like a startup. You're not getting ROI immediately, it's a
long term investment, is opposed to we've treated it differently
than every other sport. With men's sports, we've always known
you're gonna put a lot of money up front, you're
gonna spend a lot to see it later. That's women's
sports has been this immediate well lost money so that
it's over. Yes, there wasn't this fundamental belief in the
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product that we've had for men and in the future
ability of it that's changed.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yes, right, it's like this is going to be a gimmick.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
It's going to be a fulfilling prophecy, because then when
you saw it that way way.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You've worked things like WNBA women's golf, Olympic sports. Do
you feel like you're treated differently working in those spaces
than when you're in like say the Big four professional
men's sports.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Uh? Not really, I think because you know, you mentioned
like a I worked major golf tournaments and things like that. No,
not really. I didn't think I was particularly treated or
perceived differently. You know, maybe I just wasn't paying close
enough attention. You know, I think that with women, I
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think that it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Was very collegial.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
So yes, okay, now that you asked the question, now
that I'm like me passing around trying to think of
the answer, I remember like I was the first NFL
sideline reporter. Okay, oh J was supposed to do it,
and then you know he wasn't able to. Yeah, so
what so they were like, you're going to become You're
going to be the first NFL sideline reporter. And not
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only did the teams not want me there, nobody wanted
me there. My own colleagues didn't want me there, and
my producers didn't want me there, and it was probably
the worst year of my career professional year. And I
had a lot of incidents through the years covering men's sports,
A lot of baseball things happened in the sport of
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baseball as well, where you know, I was the only woman,
and you know, a lot of really not great things happened,
and you know, I just underwent you know, some and
and a lot of it was is you know, pretty
public knowledge like Albert Bell, like swinging a bat at
me and the dugout and things like that. That is
something that I mean would never have happened in women's
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sports like ever. And especially you know, as a mom,
I have three girls, and I was covering sports a lot,
you know, in various stages of pregnancy and motherhood and
all of that. And I remember the first year of
the w n b A, I just had a newborn.
A very lovely woman who was calling Connecticut basketball games.
Let me sit by her side and watch her. Her
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name was Doris Burke. I don't know if you've ever
heard of that. Yeah, I think she's yeah, I think
she's all right, and I think, you know, you might
have heard of her and and again with any Meyers
that first season and an all female crew behind the
scenes and the w NBA, and I remember, you know,
being a new mom, how terrifying this assignment was. First
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of all, to do play by play. I got an ulcer.
I was traveling with my baby and meeting Cheryl Swoops
and Cheryl Swoops had just had Jordan, and she was
one of the faces of the of the w NBA
initially along with Lisa Leslie and Rebecca Lobo. And seeing
her and seeing her with Jordan and seeing her like
work her way back to play with the comments, and
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it was just for me. I was like that experience,
like just having like another mom there who was like
going through like we had our babies, like almost at
the same time. Like just seeing that what she was
trying to do and what I was trying to do.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I mean, what a what a blessing?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I mean something that you know was so far flown
from people saying we don't want you here. Yeah, you know,
to guess what, We're all in the same boat. You know,
we're doing this together. I get you, like I understand you.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
There's credible power and not feeling alone.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Even if it doesn't fix it, it doesn't get you
more sleep, it doesn't make it any easier. Yeah, but
it is incredibly worthwhile to realize, oh, there's somebody else
doing this too, maybe I'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, and.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
You know that behind the scenes, like yeah with producer,
like it's okay, you and I are forward facing, but
when you're building a team behind the scenes too, and
if you're building like so for Amazon Thursday Night Football,
which I did with Andrea for four seasons, and Thursday
Yight Football, we had all female team, you know for
a couple of years and behind the scenes, I mean
that was so like empowering, so cool, and again we
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were like all in it together, which was really neat.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
It feels different having been predominantly in the women's sports
space for the last year and a half after thirteen
or fourteen years of mostly men's space, while trying to
push women's as.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Much as possible, it's this. It feels different.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It just feels different, and there's plenty of good in
both spaces, but I think sometimes we get stuck in
the way things always have been, and that's the way
things should be, as opposed to looking and being like, oh,
actually you can look over at the women's space and
less toxicity and more support and all this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, what's on tap for you this week in New Orleans?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
What are you up to?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
So a year ago I got diagnosed with breast cancer
right before the Super Bowl. I had surgery a couple
of weeks before the super Bowl, was able to come back.
I hosted Sports Center super Bowl Morning, which was really cool,
so like a really good goal. Yeah, for sure, no
breast cancer in my family. No symptoms I've had. You know,
I've had probably what I don't know, twenty twenty two mammograms,
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all negative, you know, so complete shock.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And I learned a ton And what the things I learned.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Was your risk for breast cancer does not just come
from your mother's side. It can come from your dad's
side as well. And how important it is to talk
about your family history. People are scared to talk about cancer,
they're scared to people just we just don't generally talk
to our family about health things anyway, I think, but
you really do need to know. So your parents, your grandparents,
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your their half siblings, did anybody have breast cancer, of
varying cancer, colorectal cancer, those kind of the big three.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
But if they had cancer, what did they have?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So just taking some time when you're with your family.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
A lot of families are together this weekend, Yeah, to
talk about that. I'm working with this company called Mariad.
So you go a mariad dot com backslash, know your
history and they'll just tell you, like, here's the simple
questions to ask.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It'll take five.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Minutes, you know, easy, easy, and then and then they
let you know are you a candidate for genetic testing.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I always thought genetic test it was scary. I'm like,
what is this? I don't know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
First of all, it's like this, it's like a saliva
test you can do at home.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Insurance pays for the whole thing. In ninety percent of cases.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
You could do a blood test, but this will tell
you your risk.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
For like eleven different kinds of cancer.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, a lot of people started doing that if they
had family history because they might want to be preemptive
about it, whether that's a misseectomy or otherwise, because if
they have a certain percentage, it's more likely.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Yeah, but the other thing is like, so many younger
people are getting cancer.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Now, so should you. Let's say you're at.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
A pretty high risk. Let's say you're younger person. You're
at a pretty high risk for breast cancer. You know
to get screened now, right, Like you know you need
to be screened more seriously, and your your health care
provider knows that and you will so like I have
to have a mammogram ultrasound at MRIs, you know what
I mean. And you're you know, insurance need to pay
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for that. So this is just like a game plan. Cool,
you know what I mean. It's like a roadmap for
you for your health. But you can't be scared of it.
People are scared.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
They're yeah, we're all used to, like we're filling out
all those forms of the doctor. They're like, how many
drinks a week? You're like, all right, let me mind
us like ten or twelve and then put that number done.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But you gotta be honest.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You gotta be honest about stuff like family history that
one actually met. No, I'm just kidding. I'm very honest
about my I have to tell this story quickly. My
friend went to the doctor and she had just been
back home with family and.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
They drink a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
She's from Buffalo Bills fan and the doctor said, so
are you still having about thirty to forty drinks a week?
And she was like huh And she's like, wait, hold
that sounds like a lot. Hold on, but I did
I think that's a little too many. I wouldn't say thirty.
And she said, I said three to four. And she's like, oh,
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And she was like the fact that I thought you
might have said thirty to forty and think about it
and maybe.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Should maybe we should well back a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Sad, hilarious. Yeah, Hannah, it's always so good to see you.
Have a great time this week, and I love those
old stories.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
We'll have to have you back to talk more about.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Maybe we'll get to you and and and a couple
other folks and and celebrate that first year.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Sometimes it's the best. Yeah, you're you're the best thing
sor everything you're doing.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I love this.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
This is Sarah Spain and her wheelhouse and all her power,
and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Thanks to Hannah for sitting down with us in New Orleans.
Next time, we demand to know what sort of fountain
of youth you're drinking. From y'all aging backwards for real.
We got to take another break. When we come back,
we get Goofy with the co host of Gojo and Golic,
my guy, Mike Golitt Junior.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Welcome back, Slices.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Let's head back to Super Bowl Radio Row, where Friday
saw a little drive by from Mike Gollett Junior, one
of my favorite old ESPN coworkers. Whenever we hosted shows together,
things pretty quickly devolved into silliness, and sure enough on
Friday that happened again. It's Friday at Radio Row. It's
starting to the numbers are trickling down. People have partied
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too hard. Shows are back to wherever they came from.
But Mike Golick Junior is still here, and he's here
for Amina kaims esk drive by.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Top highlight from Super Week.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Ooh top highlight from Super Week. I appreciated.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I was over by the Bleacher Report set and in
the sea of you know, sponsorship deals athletes. I saw
Zach Martin a walk in Hall of Fame or throwing
paper towels through targets over and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I was. I was really enjoying the wife Guy.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Move from Ronas Grassu, the former Chicago Bears and Oregon
Duck center who is obviously betrothed to Sabrini and Escu,
the WNBA superstar. She's over doing a bunch of interviews,
and I look off to the side of stage, and
he's just there, happy as a clam, holding her purse
off at the side, waiting on his lady go get
done doing her great things.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
So I like to see the support and the camaraderie
over here.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, not just wife guy of any kind, but like
wife guy who in theory this would be his domain.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yes, And it said he's like, yeah, I just played
in the NFL. Honey, you go you go get him.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You go ahead and do your thing. Maybe I'll be
right here when you get done here.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
By the way, I mean just Oregon super couple royalty
in there. The kids already got to have scholarship offers
down the road.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
No kidding, What is that kid gonna look like? We've
got Sabrina live smaller compact, We've got Hornus who's a big.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Boy thick to see what sport are we putting that
kid in?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Well, that's gonna be interesting to me.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Is the personality that comes with an offensive lineman general
reserved will only act and provoke smart Sabrina a little
more fiery, big, fiery, tough competitor, willing to show the emotion.
So I wonder, if you get a d lineman out
of that converce accommodation.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Should we call Sabrina and Ronas and tell them our
plans for their not yet conceived or birth child.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I think it'd be only right we also present them
with we are investors. We would like to help support
this child in any way that we can.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's the next wave of sports investment. You don't invest
in a league or a team, you invest in a fetus.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Hey, you guys all heard it right there. That is ripe.
This belongs to us. We will gettigious copyright whichever one
that is one. I don't exactly know, but we said
both in front of a microphone, so now they cannot
come for us.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Gojo, thanks for coming by, Thanks Sarah, good to see you.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Thanks to Mike for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
And shout out to that party voice I acquired talking
over all the crowds and the live music on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Night, Ooh Boy.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Also shout out to Jason English and Aaron Kaufman from iHeart,
who were fantastic producers and bookers and just all around
good hangs all week on Radio Row.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
All Right, folks, it's Black History Month, and we're going
to continue to be intentional about shining a light on
black women's sports pioneers that you might not know about.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Today, we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
A gymnast who's actually blazing a new path as we speak. No,
not seven time Olympic gold medalist Simone Biles, obvi. She's unbelievable,
but we're pretty sure you know plenty about her by now. Instead,
we want to introduce you to Morgan Price, a junior
all around gymnast at Fisk University. Fisk is a historically
black college in Nashville, Tennessee, and the first HBCU with
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the gymnastics team, which has competed since twenty twenty two.
On Saturday, Price did something no other HBCU gymnast has
ever done. She earned a perfect ten. The score was
for her bar routine and a meet at Temple University.
We'll link to that in the show notes so you
can see it for yourself. And that wasn't her first
time being the first. In twenty twenty four, as a sophomore,
she won the USA Gymnastics Women's Collegiate National Championships all
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Around title, becoming the first HBCU gymnast to.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Win a national championship.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
The USAG Championships are a little different from the NCAA
Championships in that they're open to schools with fewer than
seven and a half full scholarships. Now, those are outstanding
feats on their own, but they're even more awesome.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
When you know about Price's journey.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
According to a new story by WFAAABC eight in Dallas,
one of her life goals was to go to an
HBCU and compete, but she knew there weren't any HBCU
programs out there, so as a high schooler in twenty
twenty two, she committed to compete at the University of Arkansas,
but then, while scrolling Instagram one day, she saw a
post announcing FISK was starting a gymnastics program. She called
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Arkansas and de committed, choosing instead to go to FISK,
which didn't even have a gymnastics training center on campus yet.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
In her profile on.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
The team site, she says, in part quote, growing up
in gymnastics, I rarely had teammates who looked like me.
I wanted to be a part of history and inspire
younger girls who want to attend an HBCU as well.
I will forever cherish being a part of this team
end quote. What Morgan is doing is extremely important. Showing
young athletes that HBCUs can help them excel in their sports,
just like predominantly white institutions can, and most HBCUs are
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doing it with less money and less resources than pwis.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Something that needs to change.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Friend of the Show Jamal Hill penned an article for
The Athletic back in twenty nineteen titled It's time for
Black athletes to leave white colleges. She wrote, quote, beyond sports,
the average HBCU endowment is only one eighth that of
the average predominantly white school. Taken together, all of the
HBCU endowments combined make up less than a tenth of
Harvard's end quote. In twenty twenty three, and PR ran
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an episode of Morning Edition where it was reported that
sixteen states had underfunded some of their HBCUs for decades
by more than twelve billion dollars. According to the US
Department of Education. Now, with Trump looking to dismantle the
Department of Education and the new administration's clear desire to
impede or erase opportunities for black folks and people of color,
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the disparity could get even worse. But when athletes of
Morgan's caliber decide to commit to HBCUs instead of pwys,
they bring attention and new opportunities for the folks who
come after them. So hell of a job, Morgan Price
Big shout out to all the HBCUs across the land,
and to all the athletes, coaches, and administrators who find
ways to excel even when the investment isn't there. If
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you're interested in helping close the endowment gap between HBCUs
and PWIS, consider making a donation to an HBCU athletic
department near you. We'll link to a map of HBCUs
across the country with school websites attached. Navigate to their
donation pages that's usually on the toolbar at the top,
and make a gift. We'll also link to Jamel story
and the NPR episode in the show notes if you
want to learn more. We always love that you're listening,
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but we want you to get in the game every
day too. So here's our good game play of the day.
Like I said earlier, fill out your bracket if the
unrivaled one on one tournament games haven't started yet, and
get your popcorn ready for the games this afternoon and tonight.
This should be fun. Also, Valentine's Day is coming up
on Friday, and we want to know what women's sports
figures use slices are sending platonic love to this year.
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Is there a coach that inspires you with the way
they lead, Maybe a player whose game you can't get
enough of, or maybe you've got a kiddo that wants
to shout out their favorite player. We're all ears. We'd
love it if you'd send us a voicemail. That way,
we can play it on the air, and who knows,
maybe your fave we'll hear it. It wouldn't be the
first time. You might recall the story we told you
about Jeopardy contestant Jen Feldman, who told us that she
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chose her final Jeopardy answer quote what is watch more
Women's Sports in part because she hoped Sue Bird might
see it. Well, folks, we made sure that Sue Bird
saw it and Jen got a shout out on Sue
and Meghan Rapino's podcast A Touch More. We'll link to
that episode in the show notes. So leave us a
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Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're once
again asking to move the Super Bowl to Saturday so
we don't have to suffer from a super case of
the Sunday Scaries this.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Time every single year.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It's Monday, February tenth, and on today's show, we'll chat
with the legendary Hannah Storm and the hilarious Mike Goulli Junior,
both of whom I caught up with on Radio Row
in New Orleans. Hannah and I dove into a bunch
of stuff, including how the sentiment toward women's sports has
changed at major networks in recent years and the differences
she's noticed between working in men's.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And women's sports spaces.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And Mike did a little drive by to discuss our
brand new, brilliant business plan investing in babies. Plus the
WNBA News keeps it Coming and HBCU stand up change
in the game, and a chance to send your sports
faves a little love. It's all coming up right after
this happy Monday slices. Here's what you need to know
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today in Unrivaled News. The league's long anticipated one on
one tournament starts today. Thirty of the league's elite competitors
begin their quest for the two hundred thousand dollars top
prize from two to four pm Eastern on True TV
and seven to nine pm Eastern on TNT and True TV.
We'll be interested to see if injured players including Marina Maybury,
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who hasn't seen any time in Unrivaled yet due to
a calf injury, and Alyssa Thomas, who went down with
a knee injury on January twenty fourth and hasn't played since,
are available for this one v one tourney, or if
their opponents like essentially get a first round by Also,
if you're hearing this before tip off, there's still time
to fill out a bracket and send it to us.
You could print out slice Joey Maldonado's or you can
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fill one out on the nifty app made by Corey McDonald,
who sent it to us on Blue Sky. We'll link
to both of those in our show notes. Either way,
email us your bracket before tip off, and at the
end of the tourney, we'll flip through them and see
if any of you got close to calling it right.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
More.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Unrivaled News League co founder Nafisa Callier put on a
show Saturday night for the Lunar Owls against her partner
in business, Brianna Stewart and her missed team. The Owls
are now eight to oh after the eighty five to
eighty one win with fees monster thirty eight point fifteen
rebound performance leading the way. So do we put up
twenty three points and seventeen boards in the losing effort. Also,
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the game between Lace's BC and Vinyl BC was canceled
on Saturday for quote, player health and safety reasons. Now
no further information has been given as to why, though
it's worth noting that three Laces players had been dealing
with injuries in the lead up to the contest, and
earlier that day, the league announced that it had signed
Keky Jefferson to a relief player contract to add to
that team with.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Just one game on the slate.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Unrivaled hew the fan autograph session and gave out free
food vouchers to folks who wanted them.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
At Ashtalk's Hoops.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Who was out Unrivaled that night, posted video of the
players at tables signing for fans and said quote, they
could have easily just canceled it and moved on, but
they did everything to make it up to the fans.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I love this league.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
End quote to the WNBA, where we've got a homecoming
of sorts. Alicia Clark is returning to the Seattle Storm
after four more were seasons away from the Pacific Northwest.
Clark spent the first nine years of her WNBA career
with Seattle, playing a huge role in the Storm's twenty
eighteen and twenty twenty WNBA titles. She's been with the
ass for the last two years, earning six Women of
the Year honors during Vegas's twenty twenty three title run.
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In a statement published by the Storm on Sunday, Clark
said she's excited to get back to the city where
it all started and the org that first gave her
a chance. Quote, I can't wait to get on the
court with my teammates and get to work.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Seattle.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
We're back sticking with Seattle. French star Gabby Williams is
expected to sign a one year deal to stay with
the Storm. The Olympic silver medalist was cored by the
team last month, but that didn't necessarily mean that she
would be sticking around, per ESPN's Alexa Philip Who quote
sources said it was agreed upon that the team would
honor her desire to be moved should she wish to
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play elsewhere, but Williams wanted to remain in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
End quote. More hoops.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Marina Maybray has requested a trade from the Connecticut Sun,
and her agent has told the ESPN not an altogether
surprising ruest given the mass exodus of players from Connecticut's roster.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Just a reminder.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So far this offseason, the Sun has lost it's starting
five of Alyssa Thomas, Breonna Jones, Dewanna Bonnard, dj A Carrington,
and ty Harris Mabrey, who you remember was traded from
Chicago to Connecticut midway through last season, another trade that
she requested, is currently signed with the Sun through twenty
twenty five with a salary of two hundred and ten
thousand dollars. We'll keep your posted on whether CT honors
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that trade request. In tennis News, American star Coco Goff
made an impactful money move this week. She sent one
hundred thousand dollars donation to the United Negro College Fund,
establishing the Coco Goff Scholarship Program starting and made The
money will go toward providing scholarships for historically Black college
and university students playing competitive tennis. At just twenty years old,
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Goff is now one of the uncf's youngest donors ever,
and in the organization's release about the program, she said, quote,
my family has a deep rooted history with HBCUs, going
all the way back to my great great grandfather, from
aunts and uncles to cousins. HBC to play it a
huge role in shaping who we are. Supporting UNCF and
creating opportunities for student athletes in tennis means a lot
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to me. As a young black athlete, I understand how
impactful it is to see people who look like me
thriving in both sports and education. I want to help
the next generation of student athletes continue pursuing their passion
for tennis while reaching their academic goals. My hope is
that this scholarship gives more young black players the confidence
to chase their dreams, knowing they have a strong community
behind them and a bright future ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
End quote.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Talk about putting your money where your mouth is. Good shit,
coco oh. In slices, We're going to have more on
how you can use your dollars to support HBCUs and
athletes later in the Show in college hoops news, star
UCLA center Lauren Betts announced that she'll return to school
next year and play out her senior season with the Bruins.
Now this is big because she's been projected as a
top five pick on most WNBA mock draft boards, and
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removing herself from the mix will certainly shake.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Up how things look come April.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
At six foot seven, Bets is having an outstanding year
for coach corey closest team. She's averaging twenty point two points,
nine point nine boards and two point nine blocks, plus
she has twelve double doubles and is a top ten
candidate for the Lisa Leslie Award, going to the best
center in women's college hoops. When asked about her decision
to stay another year, Bets told the ESPN quote, I
want to win a national championship, obviously, if not this year,
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then obviously next year. But hopefully we could just do
it both times end quote. And while the prospect of
two straight chips is definitely appealing. She also said the
fact that her little sister, Sienna sixty four forward, is
joining the roster next season was also a big part
of her choice. Ucile is currently ranked number one in
the nation and is all but locked up the number
one overall seed in this year's NCAA Tournament. More College
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Hoops Friends of the Show, coach Vick Schaeffer and sophomore
stud Madison Booker helped number four Texas pull off a
huge upset over number two South Carolina yesterday sixty six
sixty two. It was the game Cock's first regular season
conference loss since twenty twenty one. Booker led the Longhorns
with twenty points and eleven rebounds, and Alesia ful Wiley
paced sc with thirteen off the bench. Also quick shout
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out to Booker for passing the one thousand point mark
a few days ago in a win over Vanderbilt.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
More College Hoops.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
On Sunday, Number nineteen Tennessee fell to number six LSU,
bringing them back down to earth after a few days
in the clouds post yukon win. In case you missed
that thriller you remember last week we told you about
how Tennessee head coach Kim Caldwell was returning to the
sidelines just seven days after giving birth. Well, her legend
continues to grow. On Thursday, her lady Voles picked up
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the program's first win over number five you consints two
thousand and seven, downing them in Knoxville eighty to seventy six.
It was a complete team effort, led by four different
players in double figures, and it marked Tennessee's first win
over a Top ten opponent this season. In the postgame interview,
ESPN's Holly Row asked Caldwell to put into perspective what
she's been able to accomplish since her quick return to
the team, and Caldwell said, simply, quote I.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Want to go home and see my baby boy.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
End quote.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, is this mom's strength could be, but also
a coach and a team reaping the fruits of their labor,
literally breathing new life into a program that's been synonymous
with women's college basketball, and it's awesome to see. Tennessee
will try to bounce back from yesterday's lost when they
face off with Auburn on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
In Hockey News, the.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Annual USA Canada rivalry series has come to a close,
with the Canadians winning this year's.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Five game series three to two.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Third year in a row that the Canucks got us
came down to a decisive fifth game on Saturday night.
In Summerdale Prince Edward Island. The two teams were tied
one to one with just under seven minutes left in
the third period when Canadian Jennifer Gardner found the back
of the net and then Laura Stacey added an empty
netter to secure the three to one victory to the NWSL.
In previous shows, we've noted how Gotham FC has seen
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an exodus of top stars during this offseason, but they
are getting a good one back. Mitch Perce signed a
one year contract to return to the team shortly after
preseason started, a preseason that Gotham is spending in Spain. Perce,
who was named MVP of the twenty twenty three NWSL Championship,
missed nearly all of last year after tearing her ACL
and Gotham season opener. That entry also took her out
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of contention for the US team's Olympic roster. As for
that aforementioned exodus, which has included the departures of multiple
players including Lynn Bi and Dolo formerly Williams, Yasmine, Ryan,
Jenna Niswanger, and Crystal Dunn. Gotham gm Ya l Averbush
West recently released an open letter to fans about the
team's turbulent offseason, West wrote, in part quote, I'm aware
of the outside narratives surrounding our roster moves. One of
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the most challenging aspects of my job is seeing these
external perspectives contrast with the deep confidence and belief we
have in what we're building at Gotham FC. She continued,
we recognize not every player's journey will align perfectly with
our club's path. Some will thrive and grow with us
for years, while others may desire to move on to
other opportunities. Sometimes we'll decide to move in a different
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direction too. This is the nature of professional sports. She
also said, I know this offseason has been a time
of uncertainty for our fans, and I want you to
know we've worked tirelessly to build a team you'll be
excited to stand behind in twenty twenty five and every
season after. And we aren't done yet. End quote. An
open letter to fans a month ahead of the start
of the season. The Gotham Intrigue continues finally to alpine skiing.
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Over the weekend, American Breezy Johnson won gold in the
women's downhill at the World Championships in Austria. En route
to victory, she clocked eighty six miles per hour, one
of the fastest speeds ever recorded by a woman per
the ap. Johnson, whose motto is fittingly quote like the Wind,
is the first American woman twin downhill gold at the
World champ since Lindsay Vaughn.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And O nine.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Speaking of Vaughn, she finished fifteenth in the race. She
said she's happy with the progress she's made since returning
from a six year retirement.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
End quote.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I put pressure on myself as if it was a
practice run for the Olympics, and I did exactly what
I came here to do.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
End quote. Slices.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
We hanging in there on a post Super Bowl Monday,
Hope you all enjoyed the game. We're actually recording this
before kickoff so I can pass out in a hot
onion dip and do slumber right after the Convetti falls.
So so I don't know. Congrats are the Eagles or
the Chiefs, or Taylor Swift or Kendrick Lamar or I
guess whichever ad makes us buy the most chips and
most importantly, kingrats to my tummy on another successful Super Bowl.
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Fullest nacks I'm back at Chicago now after my New
Orleans trip, but there's a little more Radio Row content
coming your way today and in the coming days, including
my interview with NWSL Commissioner Jessica Berman.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So keep an eye out for that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Right now, we got to take a quick break when
we come back my conversation with Hannah Storm, who is
in New Orleans not just to cover the game, but
also to receive the twenty twenty five Pat Summer All Award,
named for the legendary football player and broadcaster and hand
it out annually to a national broadcaster or sports personality
who's had an outstanding career and who's made a significant
impact in their community. Congrats to a true og. You'll
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hear from Hannah next.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Joining us now.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
She's an award winning broadcaster, producer, and director who's been
with the sp since two thousand and eight. A Notre
Dame grad, she started her career at a heavy metal
radio station, and she once sat next to Elvis at
a World Football League game. It's Hannah Storm, Sarah, you
always bring out the most pertinent back to though we
find the most important, most well known thing. By the way,
I mean your incredible interview with Bretty Howard, And that's
all I can think of when we saw her performing
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on the Grammys, was how how much I appreciated her
because of your interview with her, that you uncovered about her. Yeah,
that's the last time we hung out at the espnW summit.
But here we are at Super Bowl Radio Row. A
very different scene. Yeah, very different.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Scene from just a few more men.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, a couple more that I love that you're here,
like carrying the torch for women I am.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And like, I want to get into that because you
and I both in years at ESPN kind of balanced.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
How do we take plumb rules, make money, have.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
A career, be on TV, do the things we want
to do, which predominantly is focused around men's sports, while
continuing to push for women's sports while trying to bring
them into those spaces.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
There's I think two like kind of ways of thought.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
One is just focus on women's sports and hope people
find you or be in all the spaces they already are,
and then see if you can get some more women's covered.
So right, you've covered just about every sport you've been in,
you know, every space behind the scenes. How has it
been watching the conversation change around women's sports and women's
athletes on those shows and in those spaces.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, I mean, I go all the way back to
I was the first play by play voice of the WNBA,
and so you know, at the time, it was great
because NBC devoted great resources to that, you know, all
of the best and we broadcast it just like an
NBA game, and we had an all female production team
behind it as well as on the air. So I
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think about those early days, I think about the resources
that ESPN always put towards women's basketball, towards the tournament,
but then this real misconception that women were the ones
who were going to watch women's sports. And I think
what's more, the evolution has been is men coming along
and being interested in women's sports and women's sports becoming
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you know, very important, viable investment on the business side.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
So I think that's a difference.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I think that's what it took, you know, driven by
women's college basketball.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
As you well know, because also.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You know, I hosted a lot of Olympics and stuff
at NBC, and it.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Would be like, okay, every couple of years.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
You know, women's athletes will have this great profile at
the Olympics, and then they would just basically, you know,
fall off. Yeah, we would forget about them, and they
were sports that we weren't seeing on TV all the
time anyway, gymnastics, right, you're skating and skiing and all
of that. So it's been incredibly gratifying, but it's been
building for a long long time.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And I think a lot of it was sort of
trial and error because to your point, when the WNBA started,
there was this well let's sex them up for the
male gaze, ignoring that a lot of women did want
to watch, and that it also was sort of inauthentic
and didn't fit what we normally do for sports.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But then also there is always.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
This complain of like, well, if women don't want to watch,
why should men. Meanwhile, what we understand about entertainment products
of all kinds is a crowd draws a crowd.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
So if you go to the water cooler and you
want to talk.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
To all your pals about a WNBA game and no
one's watching, that's not as fun as talking about whatever
sport everyone is watching. And so it had to and
I think super Bird talked about this couple years ago.
There needed to be this turning point where the well
wasn't being poisoned before you even had a chance to
get into it. And when it started there was both
a lot of resources and there were some high profile
men dogging it, using it as the butt of jokes,
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making fun of it, so that it became not cool
before anyone had a chance to like it. And now
what we're seeing is this like very natural organic evolution
where it's really cool. They're trendsetters, they're part of the
cultural conversation in a way that has changed people's minds.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
And there's also ownership of the women now in their
own products, So I think that's really important. Unrivaled is
a great example of that. But now that we're seeing
women in power and women owning teams like so that's
really the next level of where this needs to be right.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Like women need to call the shots.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
On women's sports, and that is something that was not
happening and so to me, that's one of the most
important aspects of this.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, because they know they know the product, they know themselves,
they know all the stuff that needs to get to
the higher ups, and a lot of times the disconnect
between the reality of what the league is and who's
watching and who's a part of it versus what the
rich dude usually in charge thinks is pretty pretty well.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Ilso need people at like, you know, invested. So my daughter,
I don't know if you know this, she's a sports trader.
So she works at FanDuel.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
She sets markets, she sets odds, she sets.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Products and lines, and she is the one who created
the unrivaled market okay, for unrivaled basketball. She went to
them and said, we need to be in this business
of unrivaled. She did the She beat the drum for
the women at the Olympics. She is one of the
two people in charge of the WNBA and she is
constantly beating that drum. She is one of three women
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in the world who does what she does for FanDuel. Okay,
who actually is like making the sausage. You need people
in places like that, right that are speaking up, that
are saying still even today, you know, everyone assumes, oh.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, women's sports great, but you still need.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
People at a grassroots level in every business advocating for
women's sports.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And I think that's a part of it too, is
understanding that the larger like sports industrial complex includes pre
and post shows shoulder programs, yes, scambling, all those opportunities.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
To show value in a thing, right, and when you
don't do that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Whether that's the value of going to a game, and
they don't have good halftime entertainment and the concessions aren't good.
All this, you're telling people what the product means and
what it's valued at. And once we started to elevate
some of that in the women's space, that also helps
people see it as on a more of a par
with the men's sty Look at the New York Liberty Games, yeah, right, experience,
Look at the stars.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Look at the games. I go to a lot of
their games, I know, you know, to a lot of
their games, and just look at the kind of people
that it draws. And to the point where in the finals,
it became the place to be yep, for people who
are not even basketball fans, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
And you're getting you know, Gil King is there and
Katie Kirk, and you're getting people like from the news,
you're getting obviously a lot of the music.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
People have you know, fatmen and Jay Hudd and yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And they've Jay Hud who I just adore her on
every level. Talk about a great advocate for just women
and women in sports. But yeah, I just think the
liberty was a phenomenon that really.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Showed what can be possible. I agree they finally won. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You mentioned first play by Plaan, anouncer for the w
in ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Uh, with Annie Myers and lot nice and lots of resources.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Back then, it felt like there we talked about this
on our show. We're watching the arrow go up, and
that's great, but sometimes we do have to say best
or first sense or in twenty years and then we look.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Back and say, Okay, what was happening twenty years ago
that it was even better or higher?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
And some of that was you know, there's publicly reports
about it ESPN executive who buried it on two because
he didn't believe that it should be on main ESPN.
What did you witness between nineteen ninety seven and twenty
twenty five in terms of like not a direct.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Path to where we are having to take.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Some side roads, you know, listen, I mean the reason
the WNBA, I mean that was that, as you well know,
followed the ninety six Olympics and the success of the
women's national team and everything that they had to go
through literally giving up, you know, tar Vandrvere like literally
quitting her jobs, stepping away for a year, and Rebecca
Lobo and others will tell you just how grueling that
year was and what they had to sacrifice right to
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get the WNBA off the board. And that was a
David Stern directive. I want to do this. I'm going
to I'm going to grow women's basketball. I'm going to
grow the game internationally. But coming from that level, that's
why that existed. But I would say, by and large,
when we're talking about everything thing else, it had to
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organically come up and grow and listen when the readings
aren't there, when.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
People aren't watching.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
And let's face that the w NBA place in the summer,
right and so you know it's when the eyeballs are there,
rising tide.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Lifts all boats kind of thing, right though, is it?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It's like, if the iball aren't there, are you giving
it and are you giving.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
It the agency that that it should have? Are you
making it a priority? And it's really to me going
to be really interesting to see how these other leagues
too that are popping up. You know, we've had listen
and these leagues have always been there. By the way,
there's always been you know, hey, let's sort of women's
basketball league. There's been all these sortup leads through the years.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So do we finally have enough traction just it feels
different again to hopefullly have a wave right that is
going to carry these things in a sustainable business model,
And do we have enough investment and enough high profile
people investing.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
In the long run?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Right, like not a reactionary Oh this didn't work in
the first of the second year, but you know, and the.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
W went through a lot of stages.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I mean, I think that's why that's why weren't a
better place now. Is the idea of it being more
like a startup. You're not getting ROI immediately, it's a
long term investment, is opposed to we've treated it differently
than every other sport. With men's sports, we've always known
you're gonna put a lot of money up front, you're
gonna spend a lot to see it later. That's women's
sports has been this immediate well lost money so that
it's over. Yes, there wasn't this fundamental belief in the
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product that we've had for men and in the future
ability of it that's changed.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yes, right, it's like this is going to be a gimmick.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
It's going to be a fulfilling prophecy, because then when
you saw it that way way.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You've worked things like WNBA women's golf, Olympic sports. Do
you feel like you're treated differently working in those spaces
than when you're in like say the Big four professional
men's sports.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Uh? Not really, I think because you know, you mentioned
like a I worked major golf tournaments and things like that. No,
not really. I didn't think I was particularly treated or
perceived differently. You know, maybe I just wasn't paying close
enough attention. You know, I think that with women, I
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think that it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Was very collegial.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
So yes, okay, now that you asked the question, now
that I'm like me passing around trying to think of
the answer, I remember like I was the first NFL
sideline reporter. Okay, oh J was supposed to do it,
and then you know he wasn't able to. Yeah, so
what so they were like, you're going to become You're
going to be the first NFL sideline reporter. And not
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only did the teams not want me there, nobody wanted
me there. My own colleagues didn't want me there, and
my producers didn't want me there, and it was probably
the worst year of my career professional year. And I
had a lot of incidents through the years covering men's sports,
A lot of baseball things happened in the sport of
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baseball as well, where you know, I was the only woman,
and you know, a lot of really not great things happened,
and you know, I just underwent you know, some and
and a lot of it was is you know, pretty
public knowledge like Albert Bell, like swinging a bat at
me and the dugout and things like that. That is
something that I mean would never have happened in women's
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sports like ever. And especially you know, as a mom,
I have three girls, and I was covering sports a lot,
you know, in various stages of pregnancy and motherhood and
all of that. And I remember the first year of
the w n b A, I just had a newborn.
A very lovely woman who was calling Connecticut basketball games.
Let me sit by her side and watch her. Her
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name was Doris Burke. I don't know if you've ever
heard of that. Yeah, I think she's yeah, I think
she's all right, and I think, you know, you might
have heard of her and and again with any Meyers
that first season and an all female crew behind the
scenes and the w NBA, and I remember, you know,
being a new mom, how terrifying this assignment was. First
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of all, to do play by play. I got an ulcer.
I was traveling with my baby and meeting Cheryl Swoops
and Cheryl Swoops had just had Jordan, and she was
one of the faces of the of the w NBA
initially along with Lisa Leslie and Rebecca Lobo. And seeing
her and seeing her with Jordan and seeing her like
work her way back to play with the comments, and
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it was just for me. I was like that experience,
like just having like another mom there who was like
going through like we had our babies, like almost at
the same time. Like just seeing that what she was
trying to do and what I was trying to do.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I mean, what a what a blessing?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I mean something that you know was so far flown
from people saying we don't want you here. Yeah, you know,
to guess what, We're all in the same boat. You know,
we're doing this together. I get you, like I understand you.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
There's credible power and not feeling alone.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Even if it doesn't fix it, it doesn't get you
more sleep, it doesn't make it any easier. Yeah, but
it is incredibly worthwhile to realize, oh, there's somebody else
doing this too, maybe I'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, and.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
You know that behind the scenes, like yeah with producer,
like it's okay, you and I are forward facing, but
when you're building a team behind the scenes too, and
if you're building like so for Amazon Thursday Night Football,
which I did with Andrea for four seasons, and Thursday
Yight Football, we had all female team, you know for
a couple of years and behind the scenes, I mean
that was so like empowering, so cool, and again we
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were like all in it together, which was really neat.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
It feels different having been predominantly in the women's sports
space for the last year and a half after thirteen
or fourteen years of mostly men's space, while trying to
push women's as.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Much as possible, it's this. It feels different.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It just feels different, and there's plenty of good in
both spaces, but I think sometimes we get stuck in
the way things always have been, and that's the way
things should be, as opposed to looking and being like, oh,
actually you can look over at the women's space and
less toxicity and more support and all this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, what's on tap for you this week in New Orleans?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
What are you up to?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
So a year ago I got diagnosed with breast cancer
right before the Super Bowl. I had surgery a couple
of weeks before the super Bowl, was able to come back.
I hosted Sports Center super Bowl Morning, which was really cool,
so like a really good goal. Yeah, for sure, no
breast cancer in my family. No symptoms I've had. You know,
I've had probably what I don't know, twenty twenty two mammograms,
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all negative, you know, so complete shock.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And I learned a ton And what the things I learned.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Was your risk for breast cancer does not just come
from your mother's side. It can come from your dad's
side as well. And how important it is to talk
about your family history. People are scared to talk about cancer,
they're scared to people just we just don't generally talk
to our family about health things anyway, I think, but
you really do need to know. So your parents, your grandparents,
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your their half siblings, did anybody have breast cancer, of
varying cancer, colorectal cancer, those kind of the big three.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
But if they had cancer, what did they have?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So just taking some time when you're with your family.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
A lot of families are together this weekend, Yeah, to
talk about that. I'm working with this company called Mariad.
So you go a mariad dot com backslash, know your
history and they'll just tell you, like, here's the simple
questions to ask.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It'll take five.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Minutes, you know, easy, easy, and then and then they
let you know are you a candidate for genetic testing.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I always thought genetic test it was scary. I'm like,
what is this? I don't know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
First of all, it's like this, it's like a saliva
test you can do at home.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Insurance pays for the whole thing. In ninety percent of cases.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
You could do a blood test, but this will tell
you your risk.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
For like eleven different kinds of cancer.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, a lot of people started doing that if they
had family history because they might want to be preemptive
about it, whether that's a misseectomy or otherwise, because if
they have a certain percentage, it's more likely.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Yeah, but the other thing is like, so many younger
people are getting cancer.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Now, so should you. Let's say you're at.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
A pretty high risk. Let's say you're younger person. You're
at a pretty high risk for breast cancer. You know
to get screened now, right, Like you know you need
to be screened more seriously, and your your health care
provider knows that and you will so like I have
to have a mammogram ultrasound at MRIs, you know what
I mean. And you're you know, insurance need to pay
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for that. So this is just like a game plan. Cool,
you know what I mean. It's like a roadmap for
you for your health. But you can't be scared of it.
People are scared.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
They're yeah, we're all used to, like we're filling out
all those forms of the doctor. They're like, how many
drinks a week? You're like, all right, let me mind
us like ten or twelve and then put that number done.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But you gotta be honest.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You gotta be honest about stuff like family history that
one actually met. No, I'm just kidding. I'm very honest
about my I have to tell this story quickly. My
friend went to the doctor and she had just been
back home with family and.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
They drink a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
She's from Buffalo Bills fan and the doctor said, so
are you still having about thirty to forty drinks a week?
And she was like huh And she's like, wait, hold
that sounds like a lot. Hold on, but I did
I think that's a little too many. I wouldn't say thirty.
And she said, I said three to four. And she's like, oh,
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And she was like the fact that I thought you
might have said thirty to forty and think about it
and maybe.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Should maybe we should well back a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Sad, hilarious. Yeah, Hannah, it's always so good to see you.
Have a great time this week, and I love those
old stories.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
We'll have to have you back to talk more about.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Maybe we'll get to you and and and a couple
other folks and and celebrate that first year.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Sometimes it's the best. Yeah, you're you're the best thing
sor everything you're doing.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I love this.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
This is Sarah Spain and her wheelhouse and all her power,
and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Thanks to Hannah for sitting down with us in New Orleans.
Next time, we demand to know what sort of fountain
of youth you're drinking. From y'all aging backwards for real.
We got to take another break. When we come back,
we get Goofy with the co host of Gojo and Golic,
my guy, Mike Golitt Junior.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Welcome back, Slices.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Let's head back to Super Bowl Radio Row, where Friday
saw a little drive by from Mike Gollett Junior, one
of my favorite old ESPN coworkers. Whenever we hosted shows together,
things pretty quickly devolved into silliness, and sure enough on
Friday that happened again. It's Friday at Radio Row. It's
starting to the numbers are trickling down. People have partied
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too hard. Shows are back to wherever they came from.
But Mike Golick Junior is still here, and he's here
for Amina kaims esk drive by.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Top highlight from Super Week.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Ooh top highlight from Super Week. I appreciated.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I was over by the Bleacher Report set and in
the sea of you know, sponsorship deals athletes. I saw
Zach Martin a walk in Hall of Fame or throwing
paper towels through targets over and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I was. I was really enjoying the wife Guy.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Move from Ronas Grassu, the former Chicago Bears and Oregon
Duck center who is obviously betrothed to Sabrini and Escu,
the WNBA superstar. She's over doing a bunch of interviews,
and I look off to the side of stage, and
he's just there, happy as a clam, holding her purse
off at the side, waiting on his lady go get
done doing her great things.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
So I like to see the support and the camaraderie
over here.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, not just wife guy of any kind, but like
wife guy who in theory this would be his domain.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yes, And it said he's like, yeah, I just played
in the NFL. Honey, you go you go get him.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You go ahead and do your thing. Maybe I'll be
right here when you get done here.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
By the way, I mean just Oregon super couple royalty
in there. The kids already got to have scholarship offers
down the road.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
No kidding, What is that kid gonna look like? We've
got Sabrina live smaller compact, We've got Hornus who's a big.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Boy thick to see what sport are we putting that
kid in?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Well, that's gonna be interesting to me.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Is the personality that comes with an offensive lineman general
reserved will only act and provoke smart Sabrina a little
more fiery, big, fiery, tough competitor, willing to show the emotion.
So I wonder, if you get a d lineman out
of that converce accommodation.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Should we call Sabrina and Ronas and tell them our
plans for their not yet conceived or birth child.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I think it'd be only right we also present them
with we are investors. We would like to help support
this child in any way that we can.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's the next wave of sports investment. You don't invest
in a league or a team, you invest in a fetus.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Hey, you guys all heard it right there. That is ripe.
This belongs to us. We will gettigious copyright whichever one
that is one. I don't exactly know, but we said
both in front of a microphone, so now they cannot
come for us.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Gojo, thanks for coming by, Thanks Sarah, good to see you.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Thanks to Mike for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
And shout out to that party voice I acquired talking
over all the crowds and the live music on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Night, Ooh Boy.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Also shout out to Jason English and Aaron Kaufman from iHeart,
who were fantastic producers and bookers and just all around
good hangs all week on Radio Row.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
All Right, folks, it's Black History Month, and we're going
to continue to be intentional about shining a light on
black women's sports pioneers that you might not know about.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Today, we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
A gymnast who's actually blazing a new path as we speak. No,
not seven time Olympic gold medalist Simone Biles, obvi. She's unbelievable,
but we're pretty sure you know plenty about her by now. Instead,
we want to introduce you to Morgan Price, a junior
all around gymnast at Fisk University. Fisk is a historically
black college in Nashville, Tennessee, and the first HBCU with
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the gymnastics team, which has competed since twenty twenty two.
On Saturday, Price did something no other HBCU gymnast has
ever done. She earned a perfect ten. The score was
for her bar routine and a meet at Temple University.
We'll link to that in the show notes so you
can see it for yourself. And that wasn't her first
time being the first. In twenty twenty four, as a sophomore,
she won the USA Gymnastics Women's Collegiate National Championships all
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Around title, becoming the first HBCU gymnast to.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Win a national championship.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
The USAG Championships are a little different from the NCAA
Championships in that they're open to schools with fewer than
seven and a half full scholarships. Now, those are outstanding
feats on their own, but they're even more awesome.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
When you know about Price's journey.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
According to a new story by WFAAABC eight in Dallas,
one of her life goals was to go to an
HBCU and compete, but she knew there weren't any HBCU
programs out there, so as a high schooler in twenty
twenty two, she committed to compete at the University of Arkansas,
but then, while scrolling Instagram one day, she saw a
post announcing FISK was starting a gymnastics program. She called
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Arkansas and de committed, choosing instead to go to FISK,
which didn't even have a gymnastics training center on campus yet.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
In her profile on.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
The team site, she says, in part quote, growing up
in gymnastics, I rarely had teammates who looked like me.
I wanted to be a part of history and inspire
younger girls who want to attend an HBCU as well.
I will forever cherish being a part of this team
end quote. What Morgan is doing is extremely important. Showing
young athletes that HBCUs can help them excel in their sports,
just like predominantly white institutions can, and most HBCUs are
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doing it with less money and less resources than pwis.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Something that needs to change.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Friend of the Show Jamal Hill penned an article for
The Athletic back in twenty nineteen titled It's time for
Black athletes to leave white colleges. She wrote, quote, beyond sports,
the average HBCU endowment is only one eighth that of
the average predominantly white school. Taken together, all of the
HBCU endowments combined make up less than a tenth of
Harvard's end quote. In twenty twenty three, and PR ran
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an episode of Morning Edition where it was reported that
sixteen states had underfunded some of their HBCUs for decades
by more than twelve billion dollars. According to the US
Department of Education. Now, with Trump looking to dismantle the
Department of Education and the new administration's clear desire to
impede or erase opportunities for black folks and people of color,
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the disparity could get even worse. But when athletes of
Morgan's caliber decide to commit to HBCUs instead of pwys,
they bring attention and new opportunities for the folks who
come after them. So hell of a job, Morgan Price
Big shout out to all the HBCUs across the land,
and to all the athletes, coaches, and administrators who find
ways to excel even when the investment isn't there. If
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you're interested in helping close the endowment gap between HBCUs
and PWIS, consider making a donation to an HBCU athletic
department near you. We'll link to a map of HBCUs
across the country with school websites attached. Navigate to their
donation pages that's usually on the toolbar at the top,
and make a gift. We'll also link to Jamel story
and the NPR episode in the show notes if you
want to learn more. We always love that you're listening,
(36:41):
but we want you to get in the game every
day too. So here's our good game play of the day.
Like I said earlier, fill out your bracket if the
unrivaled one on one tournament games haven't started yet, and
get your popcorn ready for the games this afternoon and tonight.
This should be fun. Also, Valentine's Day is coming up
on Friday, and we want to know what women's sports
figures use slices are sending platonic love to this year.
(37:02):
Is there a coach that inspires you with the way
they lead, Maybe a player whose game you can't get
enough of, or maybe you've got a kiddo that wants
to shout out their favorite player. We're all ears. We'd
love it if you'd send us a voicemail. That way,
we can play it on the air, and who knows,
maybe your fave we'll hear it. It wouldn't be the
first time. You might recall the story we told you
about Jeopardy contestant Jen Feldman, who told us that she
(37:23):
chose her final Jeopardy answer quote what is watch more
Women's Sports in part because she hoped Sue Bird might
see it. Well, folks, we made sure that Sue Bird
saw it and Jen got a shout out on Sue
and Meghan Rapino's podcast A Touch More. We'll link to
that episode in the show notes. So leave us a
voicemail eight seven to two two O four fifty seventy.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
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Speaker 1 (37:44):
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you tomorrow. Good game, Hannah, good game, Mike. You that
thing where you're cutting an onion and then your hands
smell like onion all day, no matter how many times
you wash them. Ugh Good Game with Sarah Spain is
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