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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome into the Exchange with Nick Mangled and my good
friend here, Mark Sanchez. We have an unbelievable show for
you today. Before we get kicked off, Mark, how are
you doing, buddy? Buddy? You know I'm gonna steal a
line from my dad. If I were any better, it'd
be against the law. How about that? I used to
hate when he said it. I used to hate it,
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and now I use it all the time. So SE's perfect.
I feel like there's another saying, um that there's I mean,
my wife always used and I got her this for
Christmas this year. I was walking through Hallmark and it
just it spoke to me. She tells our kids for
walking out the door every morning, Um, it's a good day,
to have a good day. So I so I got it.
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Was a sign like it was already preprinted up. I
didn't do anything like it was just sitting on the shelf.
I was like, I have to buy that because that's
the exact quote that my wife says every day. Um.
But I feel like that's gonna become what my kids
you know, like you say, you know you hated it
every every time. I feel like they're because they're mad,
they're going to school. They're walking off like this morning
it was ice cold. So they were like, it's not
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a good day to have a good day because it's freezing.
I get it, I understand it. Um. So we have
for our guests today. And because you don't know, UM,
we got Ralph Maccio, the karate Kid coming in. The
Cobra Kai is out on Netflix season four, so he
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was gracious enough to come in, um and give us
a little speel. Uh. So with that in mind, I
got a question for you. All right, what is your
signature move? And you can't say the crane? Kick? Are
just gonna say the crane? Nothing you can do questions
for him? They went to golf and stuff right off
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the six oh five. Dude, that's where I grew up.
I used I was. I lived by Norwalk. Where what
do you do your homes? Where are your vote thought? Homes?
Six o five is very Yeah, we say the out
here in California say the the four oh five, the
five back there it's just seventy seven. You know, it's weird.
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We throw eye in front of it. Interstate. Yeah, signature moves.
I'm trying to think. I mean in college when we'd score,
I'd kind of like do one of these. I don't
know where that came from. Um, the win meal action,
you know doing Honestly, one of my favorite moves was
the jet plane, you know flying That was pretty cool
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with some you know, after a big throw, big touchdown,
big run, whatever that was. That was nice to kind
of glide off the field that way because you just
feel like you're a jet I guess I don't know, man,
that was just those were fun times. What about you?
I mean, well, hold on, I still have I got
all the questions for you again. Um, I mean when
you scored a touchdown, didn't you have did you have
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something or was it only for or were there different
things for between scoring a touchdown or throwing a touchdown?
Like I didn't. I didn't plan it far enough in advance.
I didn't have a set thing. The only thing I
did have against the Raiders on the road the same
hot Dog game, I did dunk it on the goal
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post full gear like that was I always wanted to
do that. I used to see Tony Gonzalez do that
all the time, and he grew up here. Um and
I just my the going into my rookie year, I
played basketball, which I probably shouldn't have done, but I
played pick up basketball with Tony Gonzalez, and um, I
mean this dude was a freak and I'm like, oh,
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let's go throw and he's like, yeah, I don't really
catch balls still, like August right before training camp, I
was like what. So I was like, okay, whatever. I mean,
freaking Hall of Famer, so it doesn't really matter. But uh,
different strokes, I guess. But when I saw him dunk
and play pick up basketball and stuff, and then you know,
I watched them all rookie year they beat us. Remember
they beat us rookie year and we thought we weren't
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going to the playoffs. Rex said, we're out, and then
we wake up the next morning and we're potentially in.
We gotta beat Indie on the road or something. Um.
So yeah, I just I thought being able to dunk
with all your gear on was like really cool. So
doing that and then it was either the Daily News
or the Post had a big thing I had veto
and gust equipment guys, they blew it up for me.
I still have it at the house here somewhere. Um,
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but you know, probably like in the entryway right when
you walk in so people can see. Yeah. I mean
it's it's like, you know, the super Bowl winning team
and then Mark don't get a ball. Everyone forgets that
because of the hot dog. Uh, the signature move. So
I have this one. It's it just it just came
to me. Um, because I was really racking my brain.
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Um is the when we because lineman, we don't get
any fun like we just we're in a dark room
and everyone gets run down in us like it we're mushrooms. Um.
Signature move coming off the field, putting my helmet onto
the bench right and then reaching over grabbing my hat,
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doing the pool bell and then the little pop of
the ears. That's that's the signature move. Throwing the cap
on after a series, no matter what happened. You know,
that's true. That's actually a really good point. You did
always have a backwards cap on. I mean you'd even
go to Del Friscos with a backwards cap on and
they wouldn't let anybody else do that except to you.
So your backwards hat guy, d they're still really nice too.
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You need to come back, your backwards hat guy. That's
your move, that's my move, signature move. At some point
it's going to be like one of my kids are
gonna be like, I'm dad. That doesn't look right, Like
you need to stop. But you're liking a tuxedo with
a backward that. I actually did do that one time.
I went to a friend's forty of birthday party her
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and and I asked. I asked his wife what the
attire was, and she said a little bit dressy. So
I said, all right, you know, I'll figure out what
a little bit dressing is. So I pulled out my
tuxedo from the wedding, full on, full tux and I
wore a hat, and so I showed up and she's laughing,
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and UM, she's like, what are you doing? I said,
what you said, the attires a little bit a little
bit dressy, A little bit dressy. I say, you knew
exactly what the assignment was and check the box. Things good. Um,
all right, So we've been yacting too much. We need
to get to Ralph. Um. I'm really looking forward to it. Uh,
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let's go to that now interview with Ralph Maccio The
Karate Kid Cobra Kai season four on Netflix right now.
Let's check this out. Thank you again for joining us.
We got a very special guest. It's Ralph Maccio, who
you know from Karate Kid, from Cobra Kai and Ugly
Betty and a million other things. He's on his resume,
but most importantly, he's a Jet fan and he took
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time to be with us. So thank you so much, Ralph.
How you doing man, great? Great to be here. Thanks guys.
I'm glad they sent you a sweatshirt. I'm still waiting
for mine. It's good to see you have one um
my favorites. I want to get into all the Jet stuff,
but I had to know just because I mean, this
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one really hits home. I grew up in Whittier, which
is right next to Norwalk where golfing stuff is. And
for those Karate Kid fans, when you get the nice
yellow ride from Mr Miyagi and you're driving into golf
and stuff, the outdoor mini putt whatever mini golf place,
what are your memories from there? Because I have a
ton of childhood memories there. That was that was right
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up the street, dude. So whenever I saw it in
the movie, I was all fired up. That's great. That's yeah,
the the golf and stuff. I think it's still still there.
I think it's one of those you know, go visit
the the locations of the Karate Kid and it's it's
on the tour if you will. That was a couple
of nights. Uh. Um, Elizabeth Shoe and forty seven Ford convertible.
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Pretty easy day at the office. I would have to say,
and um we uh you know it was uh, it's
it's a great time. It's so fun to see those scenes,
you know, play back in the Cobra Kai series. They
actually you know, take the younger cast, they bring him
back there. They brought williams Apkin Elizabeth Shoe in season
three of Cobra Kai to to the golf and stuff.
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And um, those were long nights though, and and I
remember there was a line there was a scene where Avlton,
our director, I take her to the car. Elizabeth shoot
to the car and we started up and start driving
off and he says, um, I I allow her to
drive her. I say, why don't you drive? And Avilson
said to me, he said, yeah, why don't you just say, hey,
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it's the eighties, you know, meaning like the girls should
be able to ladies should drive. And I didn't think
of it then, but the concept of it's the eighties.
I never knew would be such a big sentence in
my life because people meet me, they're often talking about
somewhere in the eighties, so it's kind of a full circle.
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But yeah, if I knew you read Mark, well, you
were probably maybe not born yet or just what year
are you born? Just so I know when I could
feel I was born in eighty six. But I remember
my brothers, you watched that movie I love it. Um
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explained to us, where how in the world did you
become a Jets fan? I know you're a New York native,
but why Jets? Why not Giants? Why not any other teams?
What was it about the Jets and Gang Green that
that caught your attention? Well, I listened. I was about
eight years old in sixty nine, so you know that
was the team. You know it was Joe Namath, Emerson Boozer,
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if memory serves um, and and I remember, for I
think it was Christmas or my birthday. I got the
the Jet uniform in the box with the big, big
super shoulder pads, and I was you know, you imagine
my pin head now you could almost think of what
it was at eight long years old. And I wore
this thing around the house. And then I also had
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my one of my second cousins, uh, was on the
you know, I was on the squad preseason for a
little while, and he gave me the football and he said, I,
you know, I had a catch with Joe Namath with
this football and I had and that was the football
that my mom says, you keep that in your room,
like you do not go outside with that. You know,
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that's not the one to play in the street with
your friends, you know. So this was probably seventy whatever
one or two. I was like ten or whatever. So
that's where it started. And the World Champs at that point.
And then that's at the point where a guy could say,
I guarantee you we're gonna win, and they did so
and since then it's been a bit tougher for decades.
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But uh, that's how I was. Bit. Yeah, but I mean,
at least you got the one, so that's gotta be
something exciting. My son. My son is still waiting on one.
He's ten now, so I'm hoping hoping they figure it
out so he can get a Super Bowl. Um, so
I I assume I still have to ask, but I assume,
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um that I know what this answer is going to be.
What is your all time favorite Jets moment? And if
it is the Super Bowl, to give me the number
two as well. Okay, well the Super Bowl. I was
super young, so I remember. I remember it, but not
some of the I would say, Um, the game I
was at with my son and my brother and his
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son at the time. Uh, you guys were on the field.
It was I believe against Houston. It was a big
comeback game. I was in the first row and I think, Mark,
you tell me, I think it was down the right
side Braylon Edwards and then down the other side to Santonio. Yeah,
I was the first and so I was there with
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my son, my brother and his son and it was
one of those defining generational moment comeback experiences. So it's
personal because it wasn't just the game, but it was them,
you know, being as excited as I was when I
was a kid. Um. And then another one on top
of that was maybe from that same year or the
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following year. See, I'm the memory used to be so good.
But m after we got our butts kicked by New
England on Monday Night football forty billion to three or
whatever that was, and that they off game. You know,
they can't wait the Bart Scott that John Green was
big in that game, right, was that strong? Dude? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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that was any you know, you know, I just love
and the whole Bart Scott. I used that. I used that.
I mean when people say were guys coming out? I
always send that. You know. So those are those are
a couple of memories for you. Those are fun, man,
those are really fun. We went on a little run there, Nikki.
Those that Houston game, Detroit Cleveland. I mean it was
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like three or four games in a row where it
was the last possession over time, fourth quarter. So that's
really cool that you remember that. Right before that Houston one,
the Houston one, I threw an interception, backed up in
our own territory defense, build us out and give us
another opportunity. But before we got the ball back, the
stadium empty. Dude, it was it was a friends and family,
a pair for the rest of that game that happens.
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Oh that's great. Um, okay, you guys are going into
season four of Cobra Kai or your films, um, and
what did was it weird? Trying to get back into
that and I know it's set like thirty years later,
but was it weird getting back into that world of
the Karate Kid? Did you have to go back and
watch the movies or just pick up where you left
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off like a good best friend, like you never left. Yeah,
I mean we looked at it that. You know, the
three creators of the show are super super Karate Kid fans,
and they write the show that the fans that they
believe the fans want to see, and they've woven in
this this next generation cast and these kids we have
are just wonderful, spectacular actors and athletes. And for for
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Billy's Apka and myself, it was more it was less
about wow, how do I play this guy? And more
about okay, so this much life has taken place for me, Ralph,
and let's see that much life has taken place for
Daniel LaRusso. So I sort of approached it in the
same way I did back in the day, this sort
of you know, I just amped up the sort of
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temper and the sort of knee jerked nous of Daniel LaRusso,
which made him a great protagonist because he he did
he did not take no for an answer and kept
going back, and that made it entertaining, where Ralph probably
would have after the first beat down, I probably have
figured out another way and not have it getting beat
down again. That makes for less of a good movie.
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But in in an interesting way, it was just sort
of like using I have. You know, the character had
two kids, it was married a while. I have two kids,
been married a while, so there were parallels that I
didn't um. I just sort of approached it in a
fresh approach of the life that I've lived since that time.
And then uh, and then the writing is the writing,
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you know, so you have to follow what's on the page.
But it wasn't um like, you know, reinventing the wheel
and learning how to ride the bike again. It really
it was you just picked it up. And but these
guys also wrote to that they knew what the fans,
the stories that they wanted to see. And here we
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are a season four just just a great embrace exploded
on Netflix. We've been number one since New Year's Eve,
waiting for the you know that's just really uh quite
spectacular too, to be the gift that keeps on giving.
You know, it's really it's really nice and and Uh,
it's been a blast. That's cool. That's really cool. That
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is awesome. And with season four um of Cooper Kai,
you know, out on Netflix now fully entrenched, and you
think about all that time you spent during the four
seasons and you know, kind of getting back into that
role and living that life. Did you feel like when
when and this is kind of more of a personal question,
do you feel like when you started back in Like
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you had to do a history lesson for the younger
actors of like, here's what Karate Kid was and and
you know, all the different things and kind of give
the history, doesn't did they already know and kind of
came in eyes wide open to what they were getting into.
Some new that's a good question, and some new and
some some didn't. A couple of them came to the
audition and say, what's the name of this movie? You know,
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what was it? And then others were like, are you
kidding me? My mom and dad maybe watch this a
thousand times, and and so some of them and even
the fans of the show now kind of back themselves
into the franchise. You know, they'll it'll turn out to
be a really cool show that they enjoy and then
they're their parents are sitting them down and they're watching
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the movies together, and it's I think that's why it's
resonating on so many different generations in different ages and
you know, uh and different types of of of people
around the world, because it has that nostalgic element and
yet it has a relevant current story. So it's um.
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But they do you know, yes, I do feel like
you know, the older, wiser human Yoda, the Mr Miyagi
for these kids, and so is Billy, you know, all
of us, all of us o G Karate Kid um
cast members, you know, so to carry that torch with
a with a great deal of pride though you know
for sure, did did anybody come onto the Cobra kaisat
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and be like, wait, I thought the Karate Kid was
Jayden Smith? And see that would really piss me off.
I think, Well, a couple of new of the Jaden
Smith Jackie Chan remake. But for the most part, um,
you know that because that's sort of out of the
what we call them Yagi verse, because could be in
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the Cobra Kai series where that was a separate world. Um,
but that doesn't come up too often. But interestingly enough,
we have Will Smith and his company UH that was
Overbrooke and Um and some of his UH executives that
are executive producers on the show because when they did
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the remake, they assumed some of the the rights from
the original original production companies. So but everybody's smiling right now.
That's the cool part. Okay, I'm not sure if it's
been announced, but if there is a season five, do
you think there's potential little cameo Mark and I slipping
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in there somewhere. We'll probably here's what I say. I'll
take a foot, I'll take a kick to the throat
any but I might have to be coming from me.
I might have to have you sit down because it's
a little tougher to get it up. But I'll say
this much, guys, we have finished shooting season five. We
just finished it. It's gonna be a while. I'm blessed
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with a sixth season that I'll have to negotiate with
some of my writers that are A couple of them
are big Browns fan. The other is a big But
we watched some games together down on location. Okay, Um,
I gotta I got a question and a little bit
of a bone to pick. With you because I gotta
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stick up for my co host here. But in you
did an interview and you said your favorite player at
the time was Nick Folk. Okay, who was the kicker?
So I'm assuming you just screwed up the last name
and you meant to say Man Golding said Folk. Okay,
So I did. Uh. I must have been in a game,
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must have been what's our guy on the field, it's
always has the microphone. What's what's his name? It was
Eric Gallen? Right, Eric Gallen? I think did I do? Okay?
So here, why I would say Nick Folk doesn't make
sense to me. I guess see, I remember Nick Folk.
There was one season and you guys were no better
than me where he was money and one season where
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he couldn't find the side of a barn, right, I
mean there or it was really went from it was unbelievable.
He was like it was like death and taxes. It
was a guarantee, and then all of a sudden, it's
like it's over here, it's over. I mean, it's easy
to say the kickers meant, but I so maybe it
must have been during that run when he was just money.
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I just can't imagine me saying as he Mangold. Well,
I will say about Mangold as I tap danced myself
out of this one. Is that man Mangol Like, that's
the kid sets That's when you take something for granted
that the Jets had a guy at center like that,
and then on those rare occasions where you would miss
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a game, which would be very rare because you were
indispenses like I could not bring this guy down, Then
all of a sudden, the panic sets in. I'm sure
for the quarterback, even more for me in the seats
Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl, A list or number one uh
in front of you. And that's the one piece of
the Jets we always had, is when Mangold was on
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the field, Like, we don't have to worry about that.
We have to fix all these pieces, but we don't
have to worry about that. So I'll spend the rest
of my life having to redeem myself in the wrong.
Nick response, Now, listen, I have there are no issues here.
I was a big fan of Nick Folk then too.
Um the folk hero was a real thing. I mean
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that it was like one of our that was our
best offensive weapon. Um, which is never good. Um, I
don't like that, but you know it's in the past,
in the past. Um, do you feel like you have
any parallels of like the theme of Karate Kid and
the New York Jets, like the underdog that type thing.
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Do you feel like that brought in a little bit?
Do you feel that at all? Am I just making
it up and blowing smoke out of my It's actually
a good It's like a good parallel. You could I
could go one direction saying yes, I played the guy
who got his ass kicked all the time, so that
that would not be the parallel we want to say, right,
But then the other side is he was taught you know,
defense only right, so and the defense wins championship theories
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that Jets have always been a team by and large
that had you know, you know, a strong defense. It's
about scoring the points, uh for for a while and
finding that quarterback, you know, which is such a you know,
the quarterback. When I was a kid, the quarterback was everything.
But not the game has changed, right, You guys know
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way more than I do. But it's um, the ground
and pound of pound and ground. I always say it wrong.
I love that style of football and so um, but
you know I'm looking. I'm dancing around this question, but
I think that I think that the defense theory and
and the miagi ism of of get that strong first
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and then and then you could strike for a strike
hard and show no mercy. I guess that would be
a good that's more of a cobra kai thing, and
it probably you know, it would be nice to not
play from behind. So maybe striking first is not a
not a bad thing. Was absolutely exhausted in the second half,
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and so I guess it's good to get some points
up front. I don't know if I like it. It
was perfect. I was a big fan of the ground
and pound as well. Took the ball out of Mark's hands. Uh,
that's set up. That just stupid. Um, what about you
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have to have one of these. Well, we got one
question and then we'll do some rapid fire questions where
you just give a quick you know, Mets, Yankees, that
kind of thing. But um, in public, you've got to
get recognized all the time. Like how many times do
people call you Danny LaRue Trusso or like say, sweep
the leg or wax on, wax off. But what's like
the weirdest interaction either body part you signed, or some
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weird memorabilia like hey, this was the you know outfit
you wore as a teenager in the movie, or anything
crazy like that that's happened to you. There's been more
than a handful. Yeah. I get a lot of line
callouts and I was in uh certainly Karate Kid ones.
I get a lot of outsiders because says stay old
pony boy, do it for Johnny, my cousin Vinnie. I
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get a lot of I shot the club, Yeah, the
two utes, so I get I for some reason, couple
of these movies kind of stick and stand the test
of time and follow me around. I think. Um. One
of the weirdest things I ever signed is you know
there's a line from the original Karate Kid where he
says get him a body bag, and someone actually brought
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an actual body bag and asked me. He said, I said,
I've never signed a body bag. A weird fan. At
one time, one of my kids was, you know, not
feeling well and um maybe snick when they was little,
and someone was like asking for an autograph as I'm
attending to my child. Um. Silly things people say, I mean,
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there's so many of them. Um, um God, I don't know.
This was a fun and this was a fun one.
When I was making one of the karate Kid movies,
little kid comes up to me. He must have been
the second one, but the third every one, and he
says he must have been about six, and he was like,
are you Are you the guy from the artic KI
might say, yeah, I mean, are you the one who's
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does that kick that that that grain kick thing. I
said yeah, yeah, and I said I'm grabbing a pen
and the kid just leans into me. It's like six
years old. Those I kick your ass and he just walked.
I was standing there with a pen in my hand, like,
you know, I don't know. A couple of them. Those
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are good? Did you Was there an actual body in
the bag or the bag was empty? There was not,
There was not. No, they didn't come from that from
the corner's office over. Okay, good that we're lucky because
we were worried about that. All right, So we're gonna
get to uh, we're gonna get to our rapid fires
are just real quick ones, top of your head. Um.
We do it every episode, so it's a lot of fun. Um.
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And so we'll just hit him with you and you
fire away first one. Mets are Yankees. Oh okay too.
I like it Nicks Nicks or Nets Nicks. And I
flipped to Nets because my son worked for the Nets
for a little while and I sort of got recently
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got into that. So but as a kid, Willis Reid
wall Frazier, all that stuff, a basketball was my least.
It was baseball, football, neck and neck and hockey. Islanders. Sorry,
I gave you that one just because you asked me.
That's the island, prifecally Islanders, this Jets, Mets there. We
are all right, so we'll see. We'll skip the next one. Um,
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Peter Luger or Delmonico's Peter Luger. Nice good call. What
about subway or taxi? Uh? Subway okay, man of the people. Yeah,
I am. It's quicker, it's cheaper, and but it's a
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little different now obviously. Um you know, so I'm taking
the time and the COVID out of it. Um. But yeah,
I like riding the subways in Europe perfect. Um JFK
or LaGuardia. You gotta go JFK just because of the
short runways of delays and the cancelations. But it's a
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lot easier getting out into the city. It depends on
where I'm going. Everything has an asterisk. But I would say, James,
what about your favorite Burrow Um Manhattan, followed closely by
Brooklyn perfectly. I can deal with that, all right. Last
one coming at you, Empire State Building or the Statue
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of Liberty, Empire Stabling. What about the Broadway show or
movie theater. Wow, I'm going Broadway Show right now because
they're hurting so bad and uh, you know, and so
that's where that's why I went a direction. Perfect. Awesome.
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Thank you so much Ralph for taking the time to
spend with us and chatting it up a little bit. Uh,
this was awesome. This was amazing. Um a real pleasure mine.
Like I never thought this was gonna happen. So thank
you so much. We really appreciate it. Thanks Nick, Thanks Mark.
I appreciate it again. A wait to check it out.
And my my son and my daughter they're gonna be
all into it, so well, we'll watch it together if
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we can. I look forward. Awesome. Thank you so much,
Thank you so much everyone. Thanks. I think I can
say for both of us, that was absolutely amazing, really cool,
really cool. I mean that was. I don't know. There
was something about that interview with him that was just
kind of different, and I think I was more a
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little awestruck, which was pretty cool. So and he seemed
to just really light up when he thought about us
being in the next Cobra Kaie season. Now it's really cool.
I think I'm pretty sure he said we were definitely in.
I don't know if that's I don't know where he is.
I don't know verbal contracts are binding over the internet
or not, but I think it is. We got an argument,
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we got a good and we got it recorded. So thanks,
it is what it is. Um. So that leads me
to think, um, as we wrap up this week's episode, um,
who was who was your Mr Miyagi for either coming
into the NFL in the NFL maybe college? Now let's
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stick to the NFL coming into the NFL or during
the NFL, Like, who was your your sinse a? Um Man,
I feel like I had I was fortunate enough to
have multiple people kind of assumed that role along the way,
and you just gleaned some wisdom from people that are
older than you and wiser than you and have more
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life experience than you. But my high school football coach
was um you know, during the whole recruiting process to
get to college, through college, getting to the NFL. He
did my pro day at USC. He coached that whole thing,
orchestrated it was talking to all the teams because his son,
Rob Johnson, had already been in the NFL UM so
he kind of knew what it was like, and he
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he knew what it looked like. He knew how many
different directions I was gonna get pulled, and how many
little things I needed to worry about, and other things
I could just kind of get off my plate because
it was already full. And so coach Bob Johnson was
crucial for me and my success and treated me. You know,
when I played for him, I was terrified of the
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guy and I didn't want to mess up, you know,
I didn't want to let him down. And he was
tough man. He was old school, in your face, call
you out, embarrass you in front of the team, and
so I didn't want that, you know, I wanted to
I wanted to please him. And and then as soon
as I graduated, it's like his role completely changed and
he became like that uncle or grandfather figure that you're
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just infatuated with and you want to bounce ideas off of,
and you just want to check in with all the time.
And so, um, I'm just so grateful for Bob and
his family has two sons, his wife Debbie. His wife,
Debbie is the type of lady she it's a great story.
We're going into our playoff game in high school. It's
a whopping, you know, forty eight degrees and little old
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California High School Sanchez is just gonna freeze to death
during the game. Okay, that was like ridiculously cold for us.
So she took an old red Diablos jacket with a
like insulator sleeve thing. So's two sleeves together and makes
me a handwarmer because we didn't have any because we
didn't need one, and I probably didn't need that, but
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one I thought it would look so cool and too
I thought it was necessary for the frigid temperature. So
Debbie Johnson, Bob Johnson, that's the kind of family they are.
But that was one of my favorite stories about them.
And Bob kept on joking with me about it. It's like,
look at that sissy handwarmer, what are you doing? You know?
So Um. You know, he was a tough, old school,
callous guy, but he uh, he really helped me in
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my journey and I'm appreciative for him. But I spent
a lot of time talking about me. I want to
know who's your Mr me Agi. First, I have all
the questions. Um, it was forty eight degrees and you
needed a handwarmer. Dude, that's freezing here. Oh no, listen,
I get it. I know cold Mark. Um, when you
got to us and we had some cold games, I
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could tell the look in your eyes, like, listen, I'm cold.
This is chili. And that was when it was only
like sixty degrees. Um, that was like mid November, and
then I really got cold. Um. All right, So my
Mr Miyagi, I think I have to I think I
have one UM on the older side who would be
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I think would be more at But I also have
a younger one. UM. So my older one is Bill Callahan,
um are offensive line coach. He just he taught me
so much about offensive line, so much about uh life
in general. The smartest man I know um by far,
and I'm shocked that he's you know, he's he's had
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such a long and great career in the NFL. But
I feel like he could have you know, solved um,
the energy crisis or something like. I think he could
have done other big things. UM. But he was just
he really caught me everything, um about the game, about
how to play the position, and so he was he
was definitely uh the Mr Miyagi on the older side,
but then on the younger side. And you talk about
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like the life experiences and those type things. Uh was
our good friend Alan Fanica, Um him coming in teaching.
You know, he had already had ten years with Pittsburgh. UM,
so he knew he had that experience, and he taught me.
Like he he didn't keep it to himself. He kind
of explained UM, And I mean I did have to
ask him questions. He wasn't just giving it out. But um,
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you know he taught me like how to take care
of your body. Um, you know about the game, how
to play the game, and you know the different things
of experience on the field. Um, but then also life
experience like how to be how to separate being a
father that's playing football and a father that's with his family.
And there too, he had a great um example of
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keeping two things effort. He kept football in the building
and he kept family um at home like he was
he was a dad. He never took anything home. He
did all his work here, all of his study, Um,
everything was done here. So he ended up having late nights. UM,
but he would always make sure he got home. He
got home to his daughter and so he could read
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her a book when she was going to bed, and
he wasn't staring at you know, plays or anything. So
I think that was something special for me. Um kind
of taught me that because he was already gone by
the time I had my first kid, um, being in NFL,
and so I felt like I really appreciated having that
balance Um that he taught me. So not only on
a football field, but in life in general. So you go,
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big Red the Hall of Famer that he is now.
I wasn't a gay induction the induction, but man, that
was that was a good dig right rude, rude, alright
on that happy note. UM, I think we had a
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fantastic episode. I loved it. Ralph was amazing. UM. Thank
you all for listening. Uh, we really appreciate it. This
has been blast. I mean, I love it. This is awesome.
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