The Exchange Podcast with Nick Mangold & Mark Sanchez | Chris Berman (S2EP5)

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome back to another episode of the Exchange, presented by
Wind Bett. I am Nick Mangold, your co host, along
with my good buddy Mark Sanchez. How are we doing today,
excellent buddy love it? Um so for today's guest. Um,
he's a big nickname guy, um and so I think

(00:29):
it's a little clue, little hint. Um. So. I was
thinking about it, and I'm a nickname person myself, just
because I suck at remembering people's real names. So I
have to make up nicknames for people to remind myself. UM. So,
I wanted to go through some of the nicknames through
um playing career, other for maybe yourself or maybe you've

(00:51):
given to somebody or someone that you remember. Are there
any memorable nicknames out there that you can think of?
The one I'm gonna hit you with real quick, just
because you're gonna chuckle, pork chop, that was you. No,
that wasn't me, Oh idiot that I don't remember his

(01:12):
real name? Um so, hopefully what are your friends? No,
it was one of the offensive linemen, pork Chop. It
was with Bill with us. Yeah, No, yes, he was,
Um you know what, maybe maybe that was oh eight,
maybe it was pretty Yeah that was before me, dude,
there was no pork chop. I would remember that. No, you,

(01:34):
I think you were definitely there for pork chop mm hmmm.
Not Caleb slaughter Houser schlatter Housing. Yeah, yeah, what are
you got, Howard? It wasn't Austin. No, that's big SENSEI.
He's gonna kill us. Everyone's gonna kill us on this one.
What do you got? You got? Um? Well? I loved

(01:56):
how you used to call Kevin O'Connell, now the head
coach of the Vikings and former quarterback in our QB room,
Jerry O'Connell because he kind of looks like him. Jerry
O'Connell is on not the View, What's the Talk on CBS?
And uh so every time, yeah, so every time I
see him, they do have a similar like facial structure.

(02:17):
I mean it's I mean, they're not that close. It's
not like but it wasn't it was no, no, no,
it wasn't dragatory. But then you just started calling him Jerry.
And so even like, okay, recently we're on the phone
and you're like, hey, have you talked to Jerry recently?
And I was like, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry like trying to
go through my head. Immediately, I'm obviously like Tom and Jerry.

(02:39):
No because I'm a child. Jerry Seinfeld, No because I
don't know him. Uh, you're like O'Connell. I was like,
oh right, right that guy. Um, so that one was good.
Austin Howard, we said, big sense because he would get
all sensitive, which is stuff um McElroy um. I mean
we thought he looked like the Wendy's mascot, the girl

(03:02):
with the pigtails for a while, you know, with the freckles.
So we tried to get Wendy's to stick, but it
never really stuck. The I mean the easy ones for
me were, you know, sanchise um. Um. People started with
like franchise and doing sanchise. I thought that one sounded better.
I think early on people were like franchise and it

(03:24):
just never really my I mean mine for you obviously
was Uncle Mark. Yeah, well I get that one. I
get TiO deal, which is in Spanish Uncle. And then
don't forget the fact that you have your whole your
whole family, um business side is all entourage. That's I

(03:46):
gotta go. Nick um. It was yeah, that was Nick. No,
he's the age. Yeah yeah, yes, so nick was e
and then the brother is uh drama with drama, which
was Brandon, who never was really drama, which made it
even funnier, like the caffine plants and like all that stuff,

(04:09):
you know, like just silly stuff. Um, I'm trying to
think pt U turn remember the receiver we had, but
he used to call me Sanchaco for like Muchacho and Sanchez. Um.
I never had the only one I ever, I never
really had a big nickname. The only one I've got

(04:31):
was just it was from high school, which is gold
just shortened. That was easy. Um, but after that I
go with that. I don't really I didn't really get
a fun nickname. Um, I know, opportunity there for you.
What do they called Valveta? Remember Valvita cheese, liquid gold,
liquid gold? You had tone time, tone time time. Um.

(04:58):
We don't really had one for Braylon. He just has
a cool name. It was just um, I think el plaico.
I mean a lot of short names, a lot of abbreviations, right,
like you didn't you weren't with him? But fits magic
that was always a you guys said that to him.
Oh yeah, a little fits magic here let's go. I

(05:20):
like it. Um trying to think other I mean, there
was plenty of them, but it's it's funny because like
I I don't know, it's it's one of those things
like especially for rookies coming in, young guys, offensive line,
like it was whatever popped in um, it was like
that was what went with it. Isn't it wild? Because
you're just kind of like branded, like and some of

(05:41):
them are good and you can like turn that into
something like it gives you a little momentum to become
that nickname, and some of them just suck and then
it's just like you're just held under this dark cloud
of this sad nickname and we can't get out of
this prison. What gets me is everyone s while like
I'll just be scrolling through my contact looking for somebody

(06:02):
and I'll see that nickname in there. Um the funniest
one recently. So do you remember Vladimir Ducas? Yeah, bass
lad Um no Haitian descent. We couldn't really do that.
We could really do the initials, like if you have
crappy initials, you can't do v d No. That's one.
But in my phone he's the black Russian like that

(06:29):
was so shocked by Vladimir. It was like he's like
from Haiti and like what doesn't make any sense Russian name.
It would have been better if it was with the
w though wide renounce Vladimir. Yeah, alright, alright, we've got guests. Sorry,
we're off the rails here. Yes, let's bring it in

(06:49):
our guest. Um. I mean he is infamous, I would say, um.
And I'm excited to talk to him. A long time
NFL insider, broadcaster, you name it, he's done it with
the NFL. Chris Berman. I'm excited to talk to him,
chat him up a little bit. Damn time. All right,
let's bring him in. Oh man, this is a big

(07:11):
one for me. Nick. I know we're just young puffs
and this broadcasting thing, but this guy we're bringing in
needs no introduction. The mount Rushmore of anchors built ESPN,
the face of ESPN calle one of the all time greats.
Chris Berman, thank you so much for taking the time
and a huge Jets fan. We love you. Thanks for

(07:33):
thanks for doing this, Mark, Nick, good to be with
you guys. Happy holiday whenever we're running it, you know,
Happy New Year, and yeah about the green on, Yeah
not only holidays jet screen right, there we go, perfect,
there we go. I love it. I was talking with
before he came on. I was talking with we're gonna
get into these nicknames, but Kevin back back back in

(07:55):
the Gandhi and he, uh he was. He was singing
your praises and I just said, you know, my two
years at ESPN, I never even ran into Burman. Dude,
Like I feel, I don't know what to say. I'm
fired up, like I don't want to fan out too
much because you know, I'm really enjoying the broadcasting deal.
But this is uh, this is pretty cool. Um, explain, explain, God,

(08:17):
I just gotta know how it started, Like, give me
one of your favorite stories of just the origin story
with ESPN, And did you ever see it going where
it went? Because that thing, I mean absolutely took off
into a different stratesphere. Well, uh, thanks for the accolades,
Mount Rushmore. Yeah, I don't I don't know that my
face should be chiseled anywhere, but uh so, yes, so

(08:39):
I gotta so. I was twenty four when ESPN started
in nine seventy nine. I was hired one month in.
I've been on TV three monks in Hartford. I had
done radio before, so to answer your question quickly and
then I'll go back without burning up too much time,
which I could do with the best of them. Um

(09:00):
uh no, we we didn't. We were rebels without a clue. Mark,
um we you know. I like to say we are
the Mercury Astronauts, which are the first one. We just
hope the land of the ocean when when we orbited
once or twice? Okay, so you know the ocean not
on hard land. Um, if you to put it back,

(09:24):
which is you guys are even too young to really
not understand but but live it. So se early eighties
cable TV, I'm just gonna make it. You know. Back
then it was I have an antenna, I get five stations.
Why would I spend twenty bucks a month? Twenty bucks

(09:45):
and that sounds good with what we pay twenty bucks
a month for this box that gets us thirty six
channels where I gotta sleep, I gotta eat, I gotta
go to work. There are no tape machines, you know.
You how can I want thirty six channels at once?
So we'll cable TV maker. So we were part of that,

(10:08):
I did think, which sounds revisionist history. But it's not
that it was a good idea for a channel to
have sports on all the time, because well, we quickly
learned and by the way, I did the two thirty
am Sports Center my first four years. That's friend, dude, Hey,

(10:28):
West Coast, I was big in the bar. Okay, but
but but I got but I got to realize that.
My point is, Okay, so if you're East Coast and
you're coming home, maybe two is a little late to
be up. But if you're West Coast and you don't
have to be in that you could be working, or
you're working a two shift, or I get letters from
father's feeding babies in Iowa two in the morning. I went,

(10:52):
why would they get up at two? Thank god, you're
on You know what? You quickly learned that not everybody's
nine to five and lives in the East, which we
knew anything. So it wasn't did we think we'd be this, No,
God no. So cable in the eighties went like this.
So by the late eighties which YSPM got the NFL
and eighties seven and we started priv So that's only

(11:14):
eight years in the growth from sev even eight seven
was unbelievable when we got the NFL. And I'll finish
even the we're only eight years in Okay, we've landed
on the moon. But it was Yeah, I have many

(11:36):
funny stories another time about our early couple of years.
It was we we were out there. Okay, I love it.
I'm sorry, Okay, that was off script. Our first question
is supposed to be about Joe Namath, the Jets and
what they mean to you. How did that fandom start?
Obviously growing up in New York that was an easy
an easy fit there. But um, you know, Joe Namath

(11:58):
go into that game super Bowl three, I think with
your dad watching witnessing history. Um, explain those memories and
whatever you remember from that game and that time period
in your Jets fandom. Well, you can go off script,
it doesn't matter. Look, this is I posted NFL draft
for twelve hours. I mean we can come up. We
even had to come up with something for both of

(12:19):
you guys, so uh w's fact, it didn't matter. It's
fifteen minutes of pick come up with something. So um,
it's a nice story. Really grew up in Westchester, which
to SHA Stadium is not that far um, and in
nineteen sixty four when the Jets moved to SHA Stadium.
When it was built, I was nine, my brother was seven.

(12:42):
Dad not an unbelievably huge sports fan, but enjoyed the
experience with his young boys. And we didn't know the difference.
In New York Giants New York Jets a f L NFL.
We're nine years old, right or seven. I'm gonna buy
my dad season tickets to the Jets. We had There
were box seats but in the upper deck, but like

(13:03):
like the third row or fifth row. So little did
we know that. As I was growing up, you know,
junior high high school, I was really watching semi coaches
film with the a FL, which was passing. I'm jumping
around not only Joe but but John Hadel and Daryl
la Monica and new George Blanda through it. I mean

(13:24):
could go on and on and on. I'm leaving a
couple out, but um um Lenny Dawson through. But at
any rate, so we're eight dollars a ticket, right, So
we went to the games. Joe signed in in they
won the Super Bowl in sixty eight. I was at
we were at the championship game, Cold Shay upper deck

(13:47):
the planes. You could touch him landing at the bar
um you know, um windy. Any anybody that walked past
the portal the hat blew off, you know, gentlemen's hats. Uh.
So I was eighth grade, of my brother Andy was
sixth grade. We're at that game. The bomb Demanard, the touchdown,

(14:08):
the manor the lateral Ralph Baker picked up and then
forgotten Oakland at the ball one more time in Berlin.
Bigs had a big shack and then the Jets run
the way to the the super Bowl. So we watched that,
and I mean it was in our blood. And of
course then they won the Super Bowl and I wore
I had it's kind of a formal ish prep school,
but I wore my it was allowed that day. They

(14:31):
let me get away with it. My Puma shoes like Joe,
you know, the white with the green Puma. And I
got a standing ovation in home room. Uh. It great,
the true, This is all true and the first of
many well well yeah, but the only one for a
Jet Super Bowl win. Okay, so you guys tried, were great,

(14:55):
and I'm sorry about that, no, no no, no, but but
but the point is, and then of course by then
it was not only the Jets, was the a f L.
Those is our freaking league, you know. And then when
the Chiefs won the next year, made it two verses
two in Super Bowls before the merger was hey, we
throw the ball, We're more interesting. And it was kind

(15:15):
of the sixties anyway, But that's the Jets. My dad
passed in thirteen, which is all good. Um. I smile
every time the Jets win, not because I'm not happy too,
but my brother lives out in ski country in Idaho,
and and and my dad, like I said, it's close
to ten years, but I know he would be happy.

(15:36):
I'm always pleased, not that you guys were too young
when I run into a Shay Stadium jet. You know,
even like Joe Klecko, who's going on the Hall of
Fame now, he played both Wesley Walker some that if
you started your career at shaf Stadium, you have a
different mark with me, because you know, but then I
was professional. Dad gave up the seats when they moved

(15:58):
up to the Jersey, not because we didn't like it.
His boys weren't home anymore. It's a long answer, but
you could see it's in my blood, so u uh
and of course the first time I met Joe, he
was doing color one year on Monday Night football Mark
and Nick, and he comes up to me as a
Joe as you well know him, sticks out of his
hand and goes Chris Berman. I was in a game

(16:20):
like the Orange Bowl or something with one of the games.
I feel like I've known you all my life, I said,
hold on, Joe, No, no, you feel like if I've
known you all my life, because I said, if you
played seventy games injury, I mean, I don't know at stadium,
I was at sixty five of them because you were

(16:42):
and so friends ever since perfect which I assume had
to make. It was two thousand and eighteen. They had
a fiftieth anniversary dinner celebrations for that team, which you
got to host. Um. I assume they had a special
place in your heart. Do you have any big memories
from that night? M being able to host the fiftieth

(17:04):
anniversary it was an honor to be asked, Nick, and
it was an honor to be among the guys, many
of whom I've gotten to meet through the years. And
they had pretty good attendance at it. UM. I think
we lost Jerry this past year, right, didn't we or
Jerry Philbert, But but I got to speak with him
quite a bit. I talked with Johnny Sample's sun quite

(17:27):
a bit. Johnny was a he was a renegade cornerback, um,
you know, like one of those that couldn't play in
the NFL anymore. And and uh he was. He was
the outspoken. I mean, Joe was Joe right, And of
course Joe and John Maynard uh uh. And I've gotten
to know John Schmidt, the center, who I'm sure you got.

(17:50):
I mean, Schmidty the best, right, Smidy is the best,
and like he would come in um, and it was
always one of those things like as soon as if
you ever came out to practice, he as soon as
he stepped on the grass. It was a straight B
line right to me because I had the centers. We
gotta stick together, we gotta be together. He's a great guy. Um.

(18:11):
And so a few members of the line. We're back.
Pete Lammon's the tight end. Who I said, is that
the true story? They were looking at game film the
week of the Super Bowl, early in the week in Miami,
I think already, and he stood up in front of
the film projector, right, in nineteen January nine six nine.
This is an urban legend and said, coach, you better

(18:34):
shut that thing off. And we've you bank. You know what, Uh, coach,
if you show us anymore, they were think looking at
the Colts or whatever, we're gonna be overconfident. And I went, oh,
I mean I'd read that. He said, yeah, it's kind
of how it happened. Um, even if I didn't, I'm

(18:54):
going with it. So it was a treat. And just
even though it was you know, the metal, you know,
the new stadium obviously, just seeing sixteen to seven up
on the board, like outside of of the nice place
where we had the beginner was Bury, It's very cool,
very very very cool. I love it. I love it awesome.

(19:17):
Uh that so not just that team, but um, in
our runs, Rex, the Rell, Reevis, the brick is Shaw,
I mean some of the guys that we had. Nick obviously, um,
some of your favorite memories from those couple of years,
because you know we didn't make it to the super Bowl,
We're damn close. But just uh, I mean the cast

(19:39):
of characters we had the Hard Knocks episodes, I thought
that was like it's a show within itself and those
two years. We're just an incredible run and something you know,
we've obviously never forgotten. But do you have anything that
really stands out from those from our two years together?
You know, in those in those little runs we had,
well I look back at some of the players and

(20:01):
you mentioned, you know, with with Nick and the British
Shaw and the British Shaw House, you know for uh
and uh and if Alan fantaka Hall of Fame uh
at the I mean at the end, and I'm sure
he you know, he and Darrell Rievers will probably go
in this year. I can't imagine. But that's not the point.

(20:23):
Was if you were a Jet fan and every now
and then the Jets rise up coach Mancini with a
couple of those guys who drafted Rievers for example, um uh,
you made the playoffs. But for you guys, as I
look back now ten years, I have specific memories, but
I look back ten twelve years at that run thirteen

(20:44):
it was typical Jets fashion. And then of course New
England's in the division. So I mean, but if you
just take a step back with a wild card, we've
already not made it easy for ourselves, even though it
was Belichick, Brady, I get it right. It's not like,
how could you not beat him out at not the point? Okay,
the just gonna do all this on the road. Really

(21:05):
they don't care, you know. And then, um, the first
year with the second game with the Chargers right out
there in San Diego, and that was like, oh and
they had a really good record. You know, they might
have lost number one offense, number one defense in the league. Right.
We started watching film early in the week, I swear
to God, and I never told anybody this, maybe other

(21:27):
than like shoddy, but I was like, holy, this is
the best football team I've ever seen. What the hell
are we gonna do? Like, well, you made such an
impression that you eventually had LT and Primarty come over right,
so so, but winning out there, it was like, damn
these guys are And then and then and then here

(21:49):
you go, you know, in in the title game lead
it into you. I mean that you didn't like like
elited Denver for Parcels's team, and Denver was great. They
were like fourteen you know, so man, what more you're
a rookie? Like what more can we ask from the
Jets who showed tried? And then the next year you'd

(22:11):
be Peyton Manning and and Tom Brady. Okay, so so
all right, you now it's Pittsburgh, like I mean, this
is like the Royalty of the a f C. And
you made the comeback at Pittsburgh. I mean, and I
you just you guys. It was a typical. It was
a Jets gritty. It's like you wanted your football team

(22:32):
to be. And I'm not blowing smoke. I mean it's
twelve years ago and it was for a Jet band.
It was exactly the way it was supposed to be,
especially getting rid of the Colts and the Patriots like
like that, you know, and it was damn and uh,
who knows what would have happened moving forward. I mean,
I mean it's a pretty tall mountain to climb those

(22:53):
three games that that for three of them. Um, I
mean you had good player Rex of course, you know,
came in right year one and two. We have him
now he's he's our guy. Now. I love it. I
love seeing Rex on there. He loved you guys, right, yeah,

(23:15):
yeah do you. Um, So we were talking earlier, we
did our intro earlier, and um, we were talking nicknames
because like I love nicknames, Big fan of them. Um,
mainly because I'm not smart enough to remember people's names,
so I have to make up a nickname just to
remind myself. Um, do you have any I mean, you're you're,
You're so fantastic with nicknames. Do you have any memorable

(23:37):
ones from our time with the Jets that maybe you
used multiple times? Um As as a nickname that you
came up with, well, um As I refreshed my mind,
you know, just a little while ago at the roster.
I mean just I think, don't do every name and everything,
and I embarrassed that we did. I probably you made

(23:59):
us so proud. I should have had more. I mean
the British shaw House Fergus, I mean that's okay, the kickers,
didn't you have feeling and and folk right get where
they split. So the beauty is, and I'll get back
to the nicknames is when it's a pass or a

(24:20):
kick and it's highlights. I had time to sing, you know,
and so for feeling, Um, yeah, we we went from
Tommy with the who you know see me feally? I
mean you could do it on a forty eight yard
field goal. You could do it and and and have

(24:44):
fun with it going through the different down nick folks.
I mean, now if he missed, I didn't say it often,
you know what the folk right? So, but my god,
he's still kicking. He's about as accurate as ever. And
I mean, and you didn't want to do that anyway.
We did have my man Damien Woody in there, right,
and so speaks for itself and there was no nickname

(25:06):
needed there. So uh uh I let me see so
and you already had sanchized Mark. I mean you were
you know, a year or two in you were already
And I can't split your name. That can't. I can't say, man,
he's good as gold. You can't split the name. I mean,
you can't. I make the rules. Uh, I know, didn't

(25:33):
he have a big playoff year? Uh? Dustin Kellery, you're
tight end? Didn't he have? Didn't hear the name? I went,
wait a minute, why am I thinking he had a
couple of big well far farm put him on the map.
Barb was the one like he was that he was
good with far he was no, he was dubbing the

(25:55):
ball to Dustin like no one's business. Well, all we
are is dustin the wind keller. Right, Oh so good?
And then and then I actually didn't know. I looked
up the rosters of those two teams. I didn't know
the Leado, one of my favorite ones, came over one year,
right leadover and that you know I sing right if

(26:17):
he took up, I don't know that he did it
as a jet with the Eagles. He had quite a
few pick six and right he was a good player
and good good kid, good good guy. Um so that's
again I steal it from Boss Gags, which I've now
used for debol a generation later. But yeah, you know
whoa and part of that song is one more for

(26:38):
the row, So if it's a fifty yard pick six,
you could sing the whole way. And uh so there's
some I probably should have had more, but there's something
see I never picked up on the rules and then
the timing of him. But I went back and looked
up some of my favorites. Chuck new Kids on the Knoblock. Okay, well,

(26:59):
I'm mean that was money the big keep going up
the baseball. Yeah, there's some great ones. My other the
other football one that I loved was the Harry Belafonte
dio where he said, Jake daylight and come and you
got a Delo. That was that was all time. Um

(27:23):
So the football, Yeah, the I come and you got
the loan. I mean I even had John Fox one year.
I take it it might have been at the Super Bowl.
You know. I interviewed him when they almost beat New
England that one year. Um and he looked right in
the camera and answer one of my questions, I should
so have you thought? I don't remember the question Mark?

(27:46):
He goes right, daylight Come you got a delone, you know,
like a head coach of the NFL. We could sing
with them quarterbacks, um like Mark Boulger was. Ray Bolger
was was the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz. So
if Mark went back to pass it did it? Did it?

(28:07):
Did it? Could only find a receiver or Elvis Gorback
caught in a trap he was. Um So, the quarterbacks
and kickers aligneman unless you picked up the ball. I
mean it was hard at prime time too, sneaking. One
of my favorite was a jet before you guys. Curtis

(28:27):
my favorite Martin of course, which was TV show for
us old parts. Uh my favorite Martian um one that's
still good now because he's an offensive coordinator with the Chiefs.
Um Eric the enemy played with the Chargers and had
a nice career, and Eric sleeping with the enemy, and

(28:52):
you know who. Do you have a courage? You got
a team working on these now? Yeah? Well mostly, but
if someone at work, somebody sends in a list back
to the old days like baseball in the eighties, and
I laugh, I use it. Maybe you know, a beer
in sometimes helps, but uh, but I don't sleep well,

(29:18):
I don't sleep with the rosters. Guys, that's our rumors
start on fire. So obviously, I mean highlights are there's
so many and then there's they're so awesome. Do you
have one highlight that stands out to you? Is like,
this is my favorite highlight that I've seen and called

(29:39):
Is there one that you could pick out of all
of them? Or they're just too many? I mean, I
don't know if I have one. Um, but the key
is doing them like they're live, if you're doing a
highlight show, because don't assume that everyone saw it, especially
back then there are only three games on Here's prime time.
We got four in games you never saw it, So

(30:02):
don't assume that the viewer knows even now that he's
gonna make a three sixty and keep going do it
like it's happening at that time, so so that you know,
a far place Barry Sanders run. Um, that's really why
I started doing I mean, that was really bad. That
was That's awesome. I mean that's been i mean copied

(30:25):
so many times. I've done it in broadcast where like,
oh look at that dude who and it's I mean
so iconic. But I gotta tell you, I used to
watch you and Tom Jackson on Sunday nights. Um, all
through high school, junior high. My mom lived right by
both schools, so I'd go stay at her house and
uh like at the end of the weekend, so it's

(30:45):
easy for Monday morning just to walk to school. And
I could not wait for Sunday nights to watch all
these dudes and listen to the commentary and then to
eventually do it at ESPN with Booger, with Jonathan Vilma
and Kevin de Gandhi when we do college highlights. You can't, like,
I can't explain to you how much that meant to me,
thinking like damn, Chris Berman used to do it like

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in this studio. This is awesome, you know, like trying
to live up to something just so you know, and
I'm sure you knew already, but what an incredible career,
and we just appreciate your time with us today. We
got some rapid fire questions for you on your way out,
but thank you, thank you for that. And I you
mean Jonathan Vilma from the flint Stones or I think

(31:32):
at the Jets games, didn't they when he had a sack?
I think they played it over the p a Vilma's um,
And well, look, Tommy and I remained best friends. Tommy
Jackson just in aside that rapid fire. But um um,

(31:53):
it wasn't that we did the show because back then, eighties, nineties,
even early you know, the two thousand, you'd only saw
I said three games, right, So so it was a
show I would watch because if you like football, this
is tomorrow's newspaper. Yeah, we could do a five or
six minute highlight if it was forty seven to forty two,

(32:14):
you know, and the story nothing. They weren't six minutes,
so there were six SEPs. So it was funny. It's
still my favorite thing to do. I'm glad we can
still do it on ESPN Plus now with Boogers. It's
really cool. Oh, also, we gotta get you to talk
to your guy, Adam Sandler. We need him on the podcast.

(32:36):
We told Rex to reach out. He's been in his movies.
You've been in his movies. We know he's a big
Jets guy. That's our one big gask. You get one
big ask from everybody that we work on it. He
Jet fan, and I believe grew up in New Hampshire.
I'm pretty sure. Uh hey, you know you made him,
made him happy. I don't know why he wouldn't come on,

(32:58):
We'll find him. Alright, go Nick, you start all right,
I'll start off. All right, So these are just really quick.
First thing popped your mind? Um, nothing crazy. I won't
try to trick your anything. Um all right. Would you
rather Peter Lukers or Delmonico's. I think you gotta go
Peter Lugers. I mean it's a New York staple, right, Yeah,

(33:19):
I love it. Um. Okay, if you're at a resort
on vacation, you walk out to the pool, it's crowded,
there's some babes walking around. You know that. I'm setting
the scene for you. Are you like toe in the water,
just kind of dip in the shallow end? Are you
just right off the diving board. You know, Hamilton's from
sand Lot drinking cannonball in the deep end? Which one

(33:41):
are you the problem if? I mean, I'm more of
a deep end guy. But it would be a belly
flop and that wouldn't impress anybody except that I would
have a red stomach, not from sunburns. So it's so
deep end my choice. If the pool wasn't crowded, I

(34:05):
give it a shot. If it was crowded, I don't
need to make a scene. Okay, perfect and herbet? Okay.
When you're sitting down to watch something, are you a
reality show guy, like a Real Housewives kind of guy?
Or documentaries you want to watch? You know, well, I'm
a history major. There we go, so doctor, reality show,

(34:27):
I don't learn anything, okay, you learned everything you already
know about people? Well well, and maybe what I'm about
to learn from them I don't want to know. And
a documentary for sure, whether it's sports history, you know,
deep sea diving, I mean, what what do you to

(34:48):
learn something? All right? So I would you rather go
to the Met or the Googgenheim, Because I'm old enough
to remember when the Googenheim was new and the met
was older, but Googgenheim is hardly new. I still think
the mat. Uh, you're not talking about the Mets playing.

(35:09):
I know that. I know what the question is. So
I mean we like about We've got no problem with
the match. I think that's a good question though. Um, okay,
when you go on vacation, are you going somewhere to
ski for cold weather? Are you going tropical beaches warm weather? Well?
I live in in Maui, you know, about eleven weeks
a year. So uh. And I skied until my third

(35:33):
knee surgery and twenty years ago. And the doctor said,
do you love skiing or do you like skiing? And
when I like skiing because you're done? That was easy.
But now yeah, I mean beach anyway, good question. Can't

(35:54):
can't beat Maui? All right, last one, then we'll get
you out here. Um Empire State Thought or the Statue
of Liberty? Mm hmmm mm hmm. I mean they both
screamed New York. But I'm gonna give you I'll answer it.

(36:15):
But my favorite building is the Chrysler Building in New
York because it's that was the tallest building, I believe
at the time, like a hundred years ago, and it's
still is really cool when you look at it, like
they built one like that then, I mean the stature
liberty speaks for America and everybody coming here. So as

(36:37):
far as for America, the Statue of Liberty says it all.
And it's a gift from France. I mean, so, I
mean major, Well, I don't remember everything, but I remember
a couple of things. You remember how many points on
the crown? Now? I well, I don't how many seven
for all seven continents to welcome the entire world. That's

(36:58):
a bad loss by me one. So Statue of Liberty
on what it means to the United States, and and
really when the world was on the same page, or
a lot of it was, you know, But the Chrysler building,
I still look for that every time I every time

(37:20):
I come. And that's fair enough. I know I dodged
the answer, but I that's a cool building. The best
part of the rapid fire is there's no wrong answer.
So I like, why didn't I think like this? Thank
you so much for taking the time. It was it
was great talking with you. Really appreciate you taking time

(37:41):
to spend a little bit with us. Hopefully we didn't
need up too much of your time. But it was
really honored for I think both Mark and I to
be able to sit and chat with you. Well, you guys,
you guys bled and sweated for the New York Jets
and and I wish you luck with you with these careers. Mark,
he told you that game in the Buffalo Miami game.

(38:02):
You guys are great. Nick, the ring of honor, I mean,
you guys represent the Jets, and UH honor to be
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good to good too, good to vision with you guys.
I appreciate the love, so the love goes right back
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Mark Sanchez. UM. Chris Berman might be the best person ever. Wow,
Like the the amount of history he has of his

(39:35):
of the NFL, like just reading highlights, like having so
much from starting out in the eighties. I mean, obviously
there's probably plenty of people who have been doing it longer,
from like the seven, but he like he made it famous.
I think, oh, no doubt. I think the catchy phrases
tagging nicknames to players. UM. And I loved what he

(39:55):
said about making it feel like the highlight was live
for there. It was almost like UM. And then also
just noticing he went back and looked at the rosters
when we were on the team. He wore green for
the show obviously a Jets podcast, but like the guy's
very thoughtful and intention you know. And so when he

(40:17):
mentioned that about the highlights, that every time it's got
to be live, I just think of like Bruce Springsteen,
like he's gonna sing Born to Run, and like somebody
in that audience that night has never heard him do
it live, and he's got to do it. If he
just mails it in, then that person is absolutely crushed,
you know, and he rips through those highlights. But every

(40:38):
time it's somebody out there watching has never seen this
play before. I gotta make this play come to life.
And I think just him and that feeling that responsibility
to the viewer is so intentional and so rare. Um.
That was really I feel like like that should be
a staple of like the they talk about like broadcast

(40:58):
bootcamps and everything like write that one down. That means going, hey,
make it. If you're doing highlights, make it feel like
it's live. I loved it, really cool. Um, But this
time of the year, Um, you know, it's it's always tricky.
You start camp, um, you know, white eyed and bushytailed,
and now it's like the worst day. Ever, um, I

(41:19):
think it's bright eyed and bushytailed. By the way, what
I say, I don't know. You tell me everyone loves Raymond.
We're gonna bring that back up. What I got in
the office. You you mess up all the sayings I said,
and bushytail he said, why died Bair? Oh my god,

(41:46):
I'm so glad we did this and it's on film.
I hate you. Oh my god, you're my favorite. No,
I know what you're saying. You get into camp and
you're like, oh, giddy, like the first day of school.
You know your boys are there, You're are to everything's
trying to get the right direct. You know you're gonna
have this awesome season. You're gonna make your super Bowl run.

(42:07):
And at the end of the year, I mean you
and I know there's thirty one teams that are pissed.
You know, one team is happy and everybody else feels
like a complete failure, whether you've lost in the Super Bowl,
lost in a championship game, didn't make the playoffs. But
you know, this day is essentially like you know, the
last day of the season, you go do your exit physicals,

(42:28):
you you start to come up with your off season
playing and and you realize that that team is gonna
have so much turnover, whether you guys were good, bad,
or somewhere in between. I mean, there's gonna be thirty
plus guys that are gone and thirty new guys in
there potentially. So it's yeah, I think. So you don't
think about that because you've spent you know, all of

(42:49):
the spring, all of August, you know, all through the
season with the same people, and then like that and
four months it's gonna be a whole new set of people.
And so it's crazy, but you know, it is what
it is, and you move on and you know, now
after Sue's Super Bowl is over, everyone's back to oh no,
and you start a new season, no doubt. I'm with

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