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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Exchange podcast presented by wind bet Nick Mangold.
Here with my with me is my favorite friend Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Mark, I thought we'd open today's show and discuss a
little bit of music. Did you were you a music
guy before games? Like a hype up?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yes? Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yes, okay?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Did you have I'd have a little playlist.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Did you have a set playlist or did you have
a random playlist?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
No, it was set. I had some. I had some
jams on there.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Now would you were you like very by the book?
All right when I'm walking out to the field, I
need this song on when I hit the twenty yard line?
Did I have this song? Were you like that? Or
was it just a roll through from like all right,
I get into the locker room and it's just rolling.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
So I was a little more like that in college
because the pregame was a little more of a set routine.
I want to say, like, right when I got off
the bus, the Killers when we were young, they would
hit the guitar a ry, and so that was like,
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I want that happening as I'm stepping off the bus
about to you know, walk through the tunnel of humanity
and slap hands with everybody and then walk down the
stadium steps there was. This was in oh, seven o eight, So.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Kanye West was going hard at the time, and so
I had a couple of his songs on there.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I had some Dave Matthews on there. I had some
stuff to kind of mellow me out, like Billy Joel.
But yeah, I had more of a regimented playlist by
the time we're in New York. I felt like it
just kept adding, Like songs kept adding to the list,
you know, because jay Z comes out with his New
York song and you know, with Alicia Keys on it,
(02:02):
and I was like, whoa, that's gotta be one.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I mean, after that, it just kind of took on
a life of its own and it could kind of
change every game.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But there were some staples in there that that I appreciated.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
What did you do? I didn't really do the music
hype up.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah you weren't. You don't really need anything to get
your motor going.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Man, I was on off switch. But I did like
to stay ready, never get ready, damn straight. I did
like the like I would have music. I would have
random Dave I think playing on the bus right over
just yeah, because sometimes those bus rides can get long.
But I think as far as like a pump up,
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like get myself going type thing, I never really did
the music before that, Like I'd rather the sound, the sights,
and the sounds through the locker room. Like seeing other
guys get hyped up was always kind of like interesting
and watching what you know, different guys were teens and everything,
you know. And then then for a while we were
(03:04):
going through a boombox phase and they were like fifteen
different boomboxes going on, and.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So it was battle the bands was the worst.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It was a full mixture, I mean, like and guys
doing it before practice and everything. So it was never
really my jam. Like I very much enjoyed music, and
I will admit I'm not a music person, like creatively
can't do any of that business. Uh, but I do
enjoy it. And it's always always kind of awestruck by
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watching musicians and what they do and how how they
go about their craft because it's something that I cannot
do whatsoever, and so it's always always been pretty cool
for me. So I think that is a great entrance
into our upcoming guest. You want to take any guests.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Okay, the only thing I will say about pregame, okay,
that I didn't appreciate. So I try to be just
like a one phone in guy, okay, because when you
have both and you're trying to like throw the receivers
before a game and you give him like a last
second tip or reminder or you're try and they're like,
just signal the routes. I'm like, bro, both teams are
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on the field. I don't want to signal all our
routes number one, number one, number two. I can't coach
you up or the coaches can't say anything because you
run your route and if you're a yard short and
they're like, hey, get to fifteen, they're like what get
to fifteen? Fifteen yards? Please?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
What?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Like come on, dude?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So I tried to be like, you know, either keep
it in the locker room or one one headphone down
to guys so you can still interact and hear the
sights and sounds that you needed to pregame. But okay,
back to the lead end. Are you gonna give me
any ends?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Ummm nope, nope. He does everything. So he's Oh, he's
a rapper, he is a producer, he is an actor,
he's done it all and continues to do it all
and a big Jets fan. Okay, anything else, So you're
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gonna give me movies and know what? All right, this
is spens it over. So we have method Man coming in.
I'm very much to it, and I think we should
get to it post taste. All right, We're gonna bring
in rapper, producer, longtime Jets fan, actor, got the list
goes on and on.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It's gonna go on forever. But method Man get in here.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Bro, let's go what's up? What's up? Piece to the
Sanchiz and the legend himself.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Nick. You know, New York loves the f out of you, Bro.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Thank you, thank you. I like this. This is already
my favorite guest, already done. We can just end now like.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
A slute.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah. So I gotta ask you, you know, starting off
this season, and because it's fresh in our minds and everything,
that Monday night football, right we were starting out in
the season. The stadium was rocking. I was there, You
were there on the field doing the player intros. What
experience was that like for you? And that the excitement
level that you felt being in the stadium that Monday night?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Wow, when I first got there, it was electric energy,
sky high. By the time I got to the field,
bunch of nerves. So you know Jess, Jess, who's the
rep up there. Great girl by the way, great lady.
She kind of spoke talked me through it. And by
the time I got to the field and I started
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doing the intros, I couldn't hear a thing, not a thing.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, but I got through it.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Some of the guys were coming out, but it wasn't
their name, but they'll give me a pass for that.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
But by the time we got to ay Rod, it
was all electric.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
They could they could have cared less if I said
his name or not, because the stadium went wild.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah it was. It was, and they had the light
show and everything going on. Mark, Yeah, a good one.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You missed it, go, but you had a great one. Mark.
We beat the Patriots on Monday night.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Moment absolutely okay. So you got your your uh, Bruce
Buffer Michael Buffer on you know, doing the intros and
all that kind of stuff. You know how to do
it in front of a big crowd, that's nothing new
to you. But when you're in an intimate.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Setting like in Hard Knocks, you're on the show and
you got to go talk to the team.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
That's a tricky spot, right because there's a lot of players,
a lot of egos, a lot of you know, a
lot of stuff going on, and yes you're a star,
but there's other stars around like those are you know,
some peers and stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It's like, absolutely, I gotta I gotta hit you know,
I can't. I can't. I can't miss on this quote
or anything. So you went with the Bill Parcells quote,
which I really like, Yeah, how did you pick that?
How do you figure it with? Because I thought it
went off well.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Actually, they asked me if I would do the breakdown
like ten minutes before it was going to happen, and
I'm friendick in my.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Head, like okay, what do I say? What do I say?
How do I do this?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And like you said, there's a lot of guys out there,
a lot of egos, a lot of you know, guys
that you know, they're stars in their own right. So
for me, it was like, okay, just just deal with
the foundation. I'm an old school guy. Loved Parcels Tuna
when he was here. He had a great run with us,
you know, even though he had to deal with Keishon.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
No, I love Keyshon. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I love him. Boy. Yeah,
I see I see all day.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
As a matter of fact, me and Reggie Bush born
on the same day one second, and Ben Roethlisberger and
Ben big Ben two. But where was I So, yeah,
like ten minutes before that, and I remembered that Parcels
quote when I was watching NFL films and I was like,
this would be perfect. So I did that and it
came out better than I thought it would.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Man, yeah, bro money, I mean, I don't know how
well they edited, because here's my only knock on Hard
Knocks is the practice I went to the night before
they aired a show, and then the very next day
I go to a practice.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So I watched it, of course, just figuring out what's
going on. Well, they're throwing the ball in the net,
you know, and nobody misses on the show that I
got to practice that, I asked Aaron, I say, hey, dude,
what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
In the post production? I was like, you guys couldn't
hit jack today. So I was giving them a hard time.
But we'll just say you hit it one time.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
You know, Yeah, yeah, I hit it one time. No, no,
that it was perfect. Trust me, I hit it one time.
I know what you're implying. I hit it one time.
That's it. And I also got to I also got
to do the prayer with the DBS. I'm an unofficial
DP for the New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Let's go. Is I your position?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yes? Unofficial?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yes, unofficially dB, even though they all those guys have
probably got tear my MCL trying to keep up with
these guys.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Let's let's take it back to the beginning. You grew
up in Hempstead, Long Island, which was right by Hofstra
where the Jets used to have their training facility. So
what other than proximity, when and why did you get
your love for the Jets.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, I started playing football at ten eleven years old,
so now I'm interested in the game. And we're talking
about the years. This was Marcus Allen on the Raiders,
and you know you had the Dan Marino with the
Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And I believe it was his rookie season when they
went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And the Jets were in the way and AJ Dewey
snatched it away from us. That's when I really became
a Jet fan. Not just based off proximity, but based
off of just how hard they fought the New York
Sack exchange running. We had Freeman McNeil I believe at
that time. Richard Todd was our quarterback, I believe, and
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we just had a lot of grid about us. And
that was Hempstead Tiger football right there. So I've been
riding with them since ten eleven years old.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Buddy, for real, love it.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
We took you to your first football, Like, whose idea.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Was it to take me to go play football?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
The girls in my neighborhood, they was like, stop hanging
around us, go play with the boys.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Leave us a low.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
They got football tryouts up at the park and I
brought my butt up there.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yes I did. Actually, you know what funny story. Actually
my football really started.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I started playing football with the guys around the corner
who lived around the corner from me, and he was
and he grew up one of the guys that was
teaching us how to play, grew up to be a
jet himself.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Really come on, yes, Rob rob Oh my god, what's
his last name? I'm so mad?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Rob Moore from around the corner, Rob Moore, Rob Moore,
He was a jet rewide receiver for a lot of
years too, man, and he basically taught me the game
of football.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
We're talking back when he had braces in his mouth.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Damn, did you think you were going to play ball?
When he grew up?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I had aspirations to do it, But then I moved
to Staten Island and discovered girls and you know, just
all the other hills of the world. And yeah, football
was definitely on the back burner.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Since you brought up Staten Island, I wanted to get
this in real quick because I found a new found
love for Staten Island, the wild turkeys, the collins on
the houses and stuff. But what's your what's your go
to pizza spot on Staten Island?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
It used to be Brothers, but now it's Dominico's. Dominicos
is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Okay, I'll have to check that one out. I'm doing
the tour through Staten Island right now. My favorite is Donino's,
big fan of that's good.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Everything comes back to food with me. For some reason.
I don't know, Oh, we know why.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I love it. I love it. I love it all.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Right, let's okay, ball side, nick up? Yeah, So you
found the love for the Jets and football. Where did
the love of music, creating music being in part of music?
Where did that? Did that start early on or did
that come later on in life?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Very early on? My parents, my parents.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Basically, I think a lot of people's and music influences
come from their parents or what their parents.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Play in the home. And I had a I mean,
there was.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
A plethora of just different genres of music, from Rick
Dean's Disco Duck to Chuck Berry my dinga Ling. I
used to play that one all the time, from Parliament
Funkadelic to Hauling Oats.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
You know, we just we just had it all.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
And I was lucky enough to hang around a group
of guys that loved hip hop and actually wrote their
own music.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So I gravitated towards that, gravitated towards it.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I'm just curious because you're on the front lines of
this hip movement with wul Tang clan. Like, okay, so
for a West Coast kid, you know, NWA was big
for me growing up, but you know me too, maybe
equivalent or at the same you know, it was like whoa,
these are these guys are monsters, Like this is so
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different from everything. And yeah, you get to be on
the front lines of this movement and where it's gone,
not just nationally but international movement. To know that you're
like a founding father of rat I mean that is
That's insane, dude. That's gotta feel so good.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
The fact that you know where this started from, because
this music genre was invented by kids, if you think
about it, kids, and this was what came out of
the gang culture, when the piece happened between the gangs
and things like that.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
This is the music that grew from that.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
This is the music that grew from the Reagan era
when cracked decimated the urban areas as well as the
urban family. And this music has persevered for years to
the point where it's not just a billion dollar industry
but one of the most influential genres to date. And
I'm so pleased to be a part of it, not
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just a part of it, but instrumental in pushing the
pin forward.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, and the culture, but fashion, you know, yeah, not
just music. I mean it's a whole lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yes, absolutely, And I love the fact that we something
that we created has created the so own identity that
has branched off so to speak into other places. Now
everyone loves what we do, or if they don't even
love it, they respect the hustle exactly right.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Is that something that you felt like as you were
starting up and getting it going, like hey, we're changing things,
We're making difference, like we're going to be you know,
huge in this or was it just the love of
the music and love of you know, performing that you
just enjoyed the ride, or could you feel that ground
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swell like hey, this is something special.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I would say all of the above because I knew
what we were doing was different from what anybody else
was doing. I mean, Staten Island when you think about
New York, the last place you think of when you
think of the Five boroughs is Staten Island. And that's
not a slide against my borough.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It's just facts.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
So for us knowing that we were different, knowing that
we were coming with something that nobody else had done
in that time or era, we knew we had something,
but we did not know how big it would be.
Nobody can really predict how big anything is going to be.
But as the will started turning and that train started
picking up speed, it was like, oh, we might have
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something here. And next thing you know, we had a
few bandwagons attached to it and people jumped on those.
And now you know we're talking what thirty years later,
we just celebrated our thirty year anniversary. The Empire State
Building lit up the Empire State Building for us in
black and yellow, which I thought was great. And now
there's a Wu Tang Day. November ninth is Wu Tang
Day in New York City.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Let's go yeah, I love that. I guess. So how
does it go from there? Performing you're on tour Wu
Tang Clan to the wire, how high? Like does your
agent just know these people?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Is it like you're just crossing over in circles and
then you suddenly send in a self tape like, how
the hell did you get into some of the like
some of my favorite shows or movies or what like?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
How does that even happen?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well? I think the star power got me in the door,
but the talent kept me in.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So you pursued it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I didn't actually pursue it. It was kind of thrown
at me to play myself in one movie.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And in this one movie, I met Jamie Fox, Sam Jackson,
Peter Berg yeah and.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Peter okay, yeah, yeah, great white hype.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yes sir, yes, sir, the great White Hype.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
And after that I got booked again in a movie
with Sam Jackson see The Connection one seven, very small part,
no speaking, no speaking. And then after that got cast
in a movie called Copland with Peter right right, and
actually my scene was with Pete so that was dope
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as well. And after that it was more or less like, well,
I want to do my own movie now, and I
ran into this lady. We were introduced to Shawna Garr
who's now my partner, and she I told her, if
you can get this ball rolling, I will remain loyal
to you from now to then. And uh, that's when
we got the movie How High, me and Red Man.
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After that it was just, you know, all bets were
all we to do both? Now do both?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Now? You know?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I study High take the test?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Baby? Yeah, yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
How do you manage that?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Now?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You know with your TV show PowerBook two Ghost, you
know you're going back on tour with Wu Tang I believe,
is that correct?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Well, sometimes it conflicts. If I can not to cut
you off, sometimes it conflicts. So there came a moment
where the music felt like it was just drying up.
It wasn't enough resources in the States for us to survive,
meaning money the young. There was a new error coming in,
this young error coming in as it should. And these
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kids were savvy, man. I mean they were racking up.
I'm talking about they were making triple what we made
back in the day, and that is saying a lot.
So it wasn't really an audience for us anymore. And
I still had the acting thing, but I wasn't as
serious about it as I was planning to be. So
I decided to drop everything over here in the music
world concentrate on the acting. I slept on my manager's
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couch for at least a month and a half, went
out on the auditions, started my fitness journey, and once
I got booked, which was a movie called Keanu with
Key and Peel, I haven't looked back, man, I have
not looked back, and it's been acting since now, going
on tour. Wou That was convenient because there was a
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strike going on the Rightest strike as well as the
actors strike. Whereas if that strike wouldn't have happened, I
probably would not have been on that touring.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Wow, what's your there's so there's so many go go
what's your favorite thing about touring? Like so you said
you pulled back a little bit and drop back, but
now you got to do it again, Like was there
what stands out to you? Like you asked me about football.
I love playing the games. I hate going I hate
how I feel the next day, but you know I
love going to the game. So what was what's your
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favorite thing about being on tour?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Well, my favorite thing about being on tour has to
be the people, the crowd, because that's that's the only
reason why even get my energy up to go out
there and perform like I do because the energy they
give to us, we give it back to them, man.
And it's always love first and foremost. So I would
say the highlight of it is the crowd. The lows,
the travel, the diet, the sleep deprivation, the exhaustion. But
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at the end of the day, it's all worth it.
It's all worth it, man, because these people. We have
people showing up that are our age and they're showing
up with their grandkids.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
That is amazing right there, you know, So ay ay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
We saw actually a couple months ago for a buddy
of mine's birthday one sales in August September, right before
the season, but fifty cent came through with Busts the
Rhymes and.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Now one of your partners on the show, and so
so we went to go see the show.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You forget even from get Richard Died Trying, which came
out like when I was in high school.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Ish, you forget all the hits. I mean he went
thirty plus straight jams and you.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Know, all of them absolutely done.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It feel good because I saw everybody in the crowd.
I saw people that were much older than me, people
that were younger than me. I mean, it's this whole spectrum.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Of it, and you see, that's the feeling that's what
makes us come back, that feeling right there, But it's
it's limited to that hour or hour and a half.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
After you're on stage, because once you're off stage, back
to live, back to reality, yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Where you like, I can only imagine going back having
to play a game and then after the game, just
being exhausted. Your first show back where you're like, damn dude.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
The first you know, what happens to me After the
first couple of shows of not gonna lie. The first
thing that happens to me is the restless lake syndrome.
Right legs of aching and my feet cramp a lot.
I get like the cramps in the feet, so I
gotta like keep you know, Yeah, maybe it's just me.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
We gotta get to deal with doctor Schulz or shows.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Come on down, Come on, I'm trying to be the
first fifty plus Calvin Klein model.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You know, Oh, guys wear draws. We wear draws.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Come on, I'm saying Mark doesn't. Mark doesn't.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Dude, that's the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Commendo.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Okay, hold on, we gotta go back to the wire.
We can't skip over the Wire because that was one
of my favorite shows. Yeah, yeah, working with people before
they become megastars. And I'm gonna embarrass myself about a
story about Idriselba, but if you have a good story
about him. So we get uh invited to call the
International Games last year, I'm calling games for Fox and
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they they asked our crew to come call these games
in London. Well it Yourselba's there and I know him
from the wire.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, and I totally blew it on the intro like
when you meet a famous person, I usually don't get starstruck,
but I go to give him, you know, knuckles and
just like like, bro, I'm a huge fan and my
kid at the time is like five five and a half.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Well, he loved Sonic two.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And its knuckles and I'm like, yo, dude, Sonic two.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
That was funny, Like I felt like I asked. I
said something to like Kareema updul Jabar, like damn dude,
that that cameo in Full House was legit.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
That one.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
My interests of this story. It was when I met him,
very cool because we had a scene together. Very cool
dude speaking in the Baltimore dialect. So I had no
idea he was British, no idea whatsoever. So I'm watching
HBO and they used to do these promos where it's
not TV, it's HBO, so they showed interest, but this
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one had interests on it.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
He's like, it's not TV, it's HBO. I was like what.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
So the next few times I ran into him, I
had to ask him like, how did you do the
the whole Baltimore accent? And he basically told me he
lived out there for a minute, picked up the dialect. Wow,
that is so amazing to me because I can't do
anything but New York. I can't do down South, you know,
I could do suburban Midwest.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Give me that. What do you got?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
How you doing? Don't you know?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Don't you a jacket? Don't you know this?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Minnesota's I love it.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
No slide against you, guys. I don't want any hate mail.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Sorry, that's Nick. That's Nick.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
As long as it's Michigan we're hating, I'm fine with it.
We can hate all over Michigan. I got no problem there.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
See what you're signaling?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Uh awesome. So this is where the part of the
urine we get to just quick fire questions for you.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Whoa, whoa, Oh, I got a couple more, Coach, I
got a couple more.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, listen, I'm the one that the guy here. All right, listen,
Well he can wait, okay, unless you gotta run.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You gotta run. You got I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
All right, all right, Govy, So I gotta know because
the strikes over your show is coming back, the whole
AI thing. Oh yeah, and that like understanding what that
could become in the future. People using artificial intelligence to
replicate people's voices and talent and all that kind of stuff.
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So my, the thing that made me think about it
was the you guys did the You're all I need
to get by with Tammy Trurell, Marvin Gate Yes, and
sampling music in a way, you know, pays homage to
their achievement and ability and sound and all that, and
then you wrap over it and boom, it's back with
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Mary J. Blige. You know, it's awesome. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So how is it similar with the AI stuff? Because
I've heard a Johnny Cash version of Taylor Swift song
and that's not a real thing.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
He's not here anymore now.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I don't think there's any authenticity to AI, honestly, you know,
and this is just my opinion. Yeah, I feel like
you're taking away from the creative process that makes it
even fun to be a creative you know, even though
the people that are doing the stuff that stuff looks
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I mean it sounds pretty good too, but no doubt,
but no, no thank you, no thank you.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I'm like, I'm at the age now where I'm like,
get off of my law and new young whipper snappers.
So I like things the way they are, but I
do I like I like things the way they are,
but I'm not one to ever shut my nose at
technology or the future of technology.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Just your step on anyone's toes, why you do it?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah? And it's a slippery slope. Okay, last one, last one.
I'm sorry, Nick, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
This is a Marvel one. This is a Marvel my
brother Brandon, and Nick knows my brother Brandon. He is
like Marvel Universe Nerve. He's hardcore. Okay, Okay, so I
had to write this one down. But he so my
kids into a DJ my son, he's in the hole.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Now, my brother introduces us both to his old comics
and he shows me World Breaker, Whole, Red Hull, who's
general thunder whatever Ross? Yes, Rock, Yeah, thunderborl Rock.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So he says the X Men crossover in the nineties,
the Executioner's song is the best comic book crossover, true
or false? And if it's false, he wants your favorite
chromic comic book cross.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I'll say false because there's a comic book out there
called Secret Wars Okay that trumped everything every Okay, but
execution this song was pretty good. You had Wolverine being
the adamantium if that's a word. Yes, that was Magneto
showing how badass he was when he basically he took
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all of the animalium out of Wolverine's body.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I mean, that's the metal inside of Wolverine.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Don't you start with me. I'm the biggest Wolverine fan
there is. That is my that's my carre.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
So this is deep in the Marvel stuff though, because
Cable's in that Cable is a twin brother. He kills
Professor Xavier like there's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yes, yes, Legacy virus, the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
But when we're talking about just secret Wars, just did
it for me, Man the Beyond or Doctor Dooms, which
shows why Doctor Doom is such a beat b ass
you know what I mean, A badass Man the Molecule
Man just a beat a b rated character being elevated
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to being the strongest, most dominant person in the home
freaking Marvel universe. There's nothing gets better than that. And
I hope when they do do the movie that is
done right. I'm not slighting anything against Marvel. These guys
are churning out stuff like every five minutes. They're churning
stuff out.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Some I like, some I don't. But that's you know,
open for opinion. But Secret Wars by far best best
crossover series ever.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Are you going to be in a Marvel movie? They've
opened up this entire universe. Harry Styles has been in
a Marvel movie?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Like, how are you not in a I will say this,
those contracts are pretty long and I'm pretty long into two.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Let me let me stop.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah yeah, let me just stop bringing up the age
thing because I don't look my age at all. But
I would say that those contracts are pretty long and
takes up a lot of time. But I would jump
at the opportunity to be in a Marvel movie.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Still, I love it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So it's now out there for everybody. Yeah, let's go
putting it out into the ether.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
You did, you could spin off your own characters, you know, unlimited.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I'm actually I'm actually in the book. I'm actually in
the Next Men book. Yes, yes, I like it.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Brag about it all right, nice, bro, let's be nice.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
That is my I will say, hand up my fault.
You did mention those two questions and I forgot to
let you have your time. So that one's on me,
on me, all right, So quick fire questions, just you know,
quick ones right off the top of your head, nothing
too crazy. Favorite Jets player you've ever.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Met, I ever met Dan?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
You know what I'm gonna say, Nick and then Mark
are my favorites?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Well done?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
That's great? Okay, Any Jets players can any Jets players rap.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I haven't heard any of them rat form or current.
Uh nah, I doubt it. No, I doubt it. I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I wouldn't go on in the field and try, and
you know, you know, score a touchdown off a Zach
Wilson pass.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
So don't try and come in the studio.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Rowme on the rez a beat, all right, So all right,
this one's gonna take a deep breath of this one.
Take a long walk in Central Park or people watching
Times Square?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh boy, I say, people watching Times Square.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That's it's a wild time in Times Square.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It is a wild time in town square. That's why
I picked that.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
With you walking around, I got one.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Danger they got dirty feet word all right?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Favorite holiday, favorite holiday.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And my birthday. It should be a holiday if it's
not already.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
March second March second you said March second. Second, Yeah,
March second.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's already circled on the calendar for us, So we'll
start that. We'll start that Don Dale, Peter, Peter Luger,
or Delmonico's.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I go with Luga Luga because I've never had Monico's.
I've never had it.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
There you go, so, uh are you going to? You
have three hours left? Are you going to a Broadway
show or a movie theater?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Oh, that's tough. I would rather go to a Broadway
show kind of.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I love the way you get submerged into the knowing
that there's just the set, but you get submerged into
that story is nothing like it plays all day.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
It's last Broadway show you've seen.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Oh, I forgot the name of it. I did see Motown,
I saw Spider Man. I took my kissing July thing.
They weren't interested at all.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I loved it more than they did.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
It was a play about four four four four black men,
but it was like different stages, like rage, empathy, some
other it was.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It was a dope play.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Mac Wilde's was in it, as a matter of fact,
and a few other people. I can't remember the name.
I'm so mad at myself for it. But absolutely what
in that schedule? It's crazy too, man, you know I
probably I love it.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I love it. I love it all right.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
So would you rather take a taxi or the subway?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Man?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
The subway off the chain? Man, I might just have
to go with taxi. And it ain't because I'm scared
of the subway. It's just subway a little weird.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Man. I don't like rats.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Nick's got his own chauffeur, so he doesn't do either.
Hold up, Hold up, wait, how is there not a
Wu Tang Clan Broadway show?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
You could get all the game, man, which we want
a residency in Vegas be the first wrap back to
do that.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
That would be so fire fire in the sphere.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Oh wow, we put it in the sphere, in the
sphere that that would be fire right with that bign
on that spare.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Tell the whole story.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You tell the whole story, man, Let me tell you
we are in the end times. You seen that sphere.
It's all downhill from here, brother, it's all that thing
is amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I'll put a good word in the next Rangers game.
I'll talk to Dolan, see who we can get done.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah right, let's go all.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Right, So the last one for you. Would you rather
go to the top of the Empire state budding or
to the crown of the Statue of Liberty.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I actually worked at the Statue of Liberty for years
and never went inside, I'll say either, because I'm scared
of heights there. Yeah, I worked there for years for years. Yes,
what concessions.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
And actually we actually did a documentary about ourselves and
I went back to my old job there on in
the documentary and my old boss was still well, of
course he was still there, but he was very cordial.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
He was a lot different than I remember him.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
What do you say?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Oh, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Luck? I actually left there all good terms. There was
a respect thing.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
But he, you know, he was very you could tell
that he was very pleased and happy for me of
my journey from the way I am.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yes, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Concessions at the Statue of Liberty to movies albums, dude,
you name it. One of our favorite guests man so much.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I saw you when I saw you in the tunnel,
I had to say something to you, Nick, because you know, said, bro,
you caught me off guard because that and I felt
bad because I realized it afterwards that I might not
have been as cordial as I would have liked to
have been.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
But it was rain. That rain was coming in and
I had to park in the further lot and I
was running in. I was out of breath. I couldn't
bring it because I don't run anymore, so I couldn't
even talk. I was just like, and I felt so bad,
but I was like, I gotta I gotta beat the rain.
And I decided my heart health wasn't as important to
(36:29):
me beating in the rain, and I was ready for it.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Get the goldilocks. What you know?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I know right?
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It was fine.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
And Mark, you made us very proud brother when you
were our quarterbacks man. We made the postseason. Not only
made the post we actually won a postseason game. Thank you, sir,
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
A couple of those bad boys, yes sir, yes, sir,
appreciate a big guy. Emmy h O D ma'am.
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All right, welcome back into the Exchange, presented by a
win Bet. That was awesome. Metha man might be the
coolest person.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Ever kidding me. I next level, next level, elite guest.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
His energy was awesome, Nike. I now understand why his
titles are so long. He's got so many different things
going on between wrapper, actor, producer, writer, fill it in,
and he's so diverse in all the different things, like
diving into the Marvel stuff. I had no idea he
(38:11):
was a marvel aholic. What are they?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah, Marvelight, Marvel, I don't I'm not sure. I think yeah.
I think it's a it's the range, the spectrum, the
body of work you know, like it's he's got everything, dude, yearething?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, And I really did feel bad impressive. When I
did meet him for the first time. I had been
running all the way in from the parking lot and
I was just out of breath.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I was it was.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
It was not pretty, but I didn't want to get
rained on, like would you hit him with like soup?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I kind of hit him with this up like I
know it was not good. It wasn't good.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I admitted it.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I put my hand.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Dude, that was worse than worse than me with the
yoursel butt.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
No, that's worse.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
That's so bad.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Although it does get you so being here in New
York and being with Jet fans and what we've found
I think doing this podcast for the time that we
have is we do have some amazing celebrity fans. Who's
your biggest celebrity that you met over the the playing
days and we'll go post career two because why not
(39:31):
maybe your favorite it's a big Jet fan, doesn't have
to be a big Jet fan, but just celebrity in general.
I mean, we've we've found out I think through this
podcast that there are plenty of celebrity Jet fans but
I think celebrity overall, and I don't know if I
have a favorite.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I mean, Chris Berman was pretty sweet. I mean I
had met him before, but having him on the podcast,
like because of my childhood watching him after every Sunday
like up all the games, Yeah, that was pretty cool
to me. And how he comes up with nicknames and
I thought that was pretty sweet.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Maybe a little Dave Matthews throw that in there, keep
it in the music, Oh yeah, good call. Trying to think, yeah,
it's been It's interesting because I don't know, and I mean,
you played on a couple of other teams, so I
don't know if it's just New York centric that there's
so many celebrities around. But I have a hard time
(40:28):
believing like in Indianapolis you would have as many crossovers.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yeah, maybe not as much.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah, people from there, but like you know, Will Ferrell's
like massive usc guy, you know, so he's always.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I don't see, that's a good one. I probably would
have led with that one.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Really. My burying the headline bad kind of burying the
lead there, very the lead there, big guy.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, that's all right, that's alright.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
The opposite of what we do with media.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
My bad, bad, I know, but this was awesome. I
think it was a great episode and uh I'm looking
forward to the next one and I hope everyone enjoyed it.
Oh dear, dear, my time to shine. This is where
you come to play. Be sure to rate, review, follow,
and listen on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts, or wherever.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
You get your podcast.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Thank you, thank you, See you next time.