October 26, 2022 • 28 mins
Host Caroline Hendershot is joined by "Good Morning Football" host Jamie Erdahl. They kick off the podcast talking about Erdahl’s journey into the sports broadcasting world (00:49) and how her sports production background and experience as an athlete helps her excel in her role (3:45). Erdahl highlights her jump from working at NESN to becoming a reporter at CBS (5:50) and the sports world’s reaction to her recent addition to the "Good Morning Football" cast (10:30). They also delve into the transition Erdahl made from sideline reporter to morning show personality (12:44) and adjusting to the chemistry of the group on "Good Morning Football" (17:00). Erdahl also discusses the challenges of sideline reporting and her current shift of now studying games from afar (19:20). The two then talk about her love for this year’s New York Jets and the various turning points for the team throughout this season (20:41). Lastly, they share on their love for Taylor Swift and talk about Erdahl’s impressive game of song bingo on "Good Morning Football" (25:15).
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to another episode of New York Her. I'm your host,
Caroline Hendershot. Today we have another amazing guest on deck.
We have the host of Good Morning Football, Jamie Artle. Jamie,
thank you so much for joining us. I'm so excited
we were just talking off camera. I feel like this
is a full circle moment. I used to follow you
when I was in college, and now you're in New York,
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so it's perfect. It's like a true dream come true
for me. Thank you. That's so kind. I'm so happy
to talk with you guys today. I am. I just
realized this week is four months on the show, so
I feel like I have my sea legs under me
and I can start kind of doing more things like this.
So happy and yet a hundred percent. I mean, I'm
sure you were have already been up for half the
day given the early calls for Good Morning Football, but
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even still we're ready to go. So I want to
start out with the beginning of your career and how
you even knew or discovered that you even wanted to
go into sports broadcasting. Um. Wow, So you know, I
think hindsight is twenty. I would have loved to have
said like when I was you know, middle school or
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high school, that I knew that this was even a
job or career opportunity. Frankly, I did not. I think
if you went back and talked to teachers that I had,
mostly like in high school, they none of them, ten
out of ten would not be surprised that this is
what I'm doing for a living. I very much. Um.
I you know, struggled academically. I was not a kid
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that would sit in classrooms. Well, I had to be
up walking around talking to people. I am a true extrovert.
I have to be moving in order to retain information.
And Um, all of this to say that, you know,
sideline reporting and hosting and people talking in your ears,
like all of this skill set, the skill sets just
play into who I always was. It just in a
(01:50):
school setting. You know, it never really uh seemed like
I had you know, I was like on the best path,
if you will. Um all this being said to discover
then that that sports television and broadcasting was something that
I could do and uh you know do well. UM,
I was so thrilled to discover this as an option
in my life. UM. I went to a small school
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in Minnesota for college to play basketball and softball. But
when I really discovered that like broadcasting was a degree
and internships and television were an opportunity, I um transferred
to American University in d C, which, being in Washington,
d C is just a journalism hub if you will,
you know, it's a little bit more politically journalistically inclined.
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But I went to a school that allowed me to
do a ton of stuff, and it just sports broadcasting
always spoke to me. I had an internship in college
at ESPN as a producer, as a kind of broadcast
associate producer, and I love behind the scenes stuff, and
I'll tell you that. When I finished that production internship
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at ESPN, I told myself, if I give myself a
year to get an on air television job, a one
that I really love of, I will stay trying to
do on our television. If I don't, I want to
be a producer, like I just always loved the production
and I never it wasn't really about being on TV
for me. It was like being around sports television. The
comment about school is hilarious because I feel like the
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constant note on my report card to was talks too
much in class, like great student talks too much in class,
like our dean. I went to a small private school,
like our dean of students was the football coach, and
I would like get stuck in the hallway like talking
to him about football. But I was like late to class,
but like he was the dean, and so I just
was like, you know it, just they go back. I
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think they would just shake my head at me now
to be like, of course, this is what you're doing.
Like we couldn't get you to sit still. You were
talking to everybody, and I was like, well, you know,
it paid off eventually, It all works out in the
end at all Orchid. But that comment that you made
about producing and just always loving being involved in the
process when you got your first job with Nesson, I
know there was a variety of a sports that you
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were covering, but be jobs that you were doing. You
were hosts and reporting, There was a lot of different
work there. Did that factor of loving to be helping
in production and behind the scenes come into play a
lot with that? It did. I felt like actually my
internship experience doing the production side helped me a lot
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being on air. Truly in a job at twenty four UM,
I was very green, and working in New England and
Boston in particular as a market is very intense. It's
very cutthroat. The fans will suss you out if you
don't know what you're doing. And so I felt like
my love for the production side of television, coupled with
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having played college basketball and just knowing basketball, I really
kind of teed myself up, at least to my bosses
at the time, like, Hey, send me to the Celtics games. Hey,
let me do Boston University basketball. Like I knew that
if I could, if you put me in a basketball
environment at least to start my career, I would be fine.
I could swim. And that's kind of what again got
my sea legs under me with, um, I can do
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this as a job. And then all of a sudden,
I was at Patriots practice and I was out in
socks storing the World Series. UM, and so it definitely
had a snowball effect. But I am somebody who formally
believes like you have to work if you're gonna work
in television, you have to work from the back road
to the front because if you don't know, like on
Good Morning Football, like when things go awry, if a
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guest cancels if an element doesn't go like a you
have to know who to talk to if it's a
problem or be You have to be able to problem
solve that as the show is unfolding live and so
I think really good talented broadcasters like no television inside
and now. I think that's probably the hardest thing about
your current role is three hours of live television. I
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don't think anybody truly understands that until probably you're in
the seat doing it. But we're gonna come back to that.
I want to talk about your stint with stint. It
was eight years, eight years with CBS, because then you
go from a very green, mean new reporter at nesson
to then going to CBS and you're doing March Madness,
(06:05):
You're covering NFL games, you're covering your you become the
lead sideline reporter for SEC. How big of a jump
was that, not only in your career, but then for
you to grow personally? All right, So here's what happened.
I was at Innsson and it was a really wonderful
two years there, but I really realized, like, I think
I can be good at this. I think there is
a part of me that can shine in certain environments.
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And in my second year at Nesson um Jenny Dell,
who we were at Nessen at the same time, she
moved on from the Red Sox job. And now I
had been there for one year. I have filled in
for her fifty games, so I had a good understanding
of what it meant to have that job. And um,
after I played college basketball and college softball, so like
I I baseball, Like if you find your real yeah.
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So I went to my bosses at Nesson and was like,
I really I want this job. I would like to
have the Red Sox job, and they gave it to
somebody else, and um, I was doing hockey at the
time time, I was covering the Bruins. And to me,
that covering hockey for a year, I learned a lot
of lessons. I learned a lot about hockey. I have
a greater appreciation for it now than I ever did before.
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I think the athletes are some of the most incredible
athletes I've ever come across. But to me, eight two
plus games of hockey, I've never had less confidence in
my voice than I ever did covering hockey. And it
just and that's and I had to become okay with that,
Like it's okay to not be like the best at
every single sport that you cover. I think you have
to work with things that I think you should just
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write yourself off and doing something. But I just never
got there with hockey. And it really was kind of
like hurting my heart that, like there were other things
out there that I know that I would sound more
confident in talking about it and doing it and covering it,
and hockey just wasn't it for me. Not saying I
don't love the sport, really love the Bruins. I had
a grandual time traveling all over the country in Canada
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for that matter, covering hockey, but it just wasn't me.
And so when CBS came calling, um to do basketball
and to do football, I just was like yes this
and all this being said, like nesson, really, I think
the trajectory of my career would have changed if they
had given me that Red Sox job, because I just
was like, Wow, I cannot do hockey. This is not
sustainable for me. And so when CBS called, I had
(08:14):
to go for a lot of reasons, um, but the
fact that I got to cover basketball, it just like
really brought me back to kind of like the whole
reason why I got into this, not specifically just because
of hockey, but how big of a time do you think,
like that teaching lesson was for you, not necessarily just
like okay, I don't love hockey, but more so what
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it taught you about yourself? So uh, that's a really
good question. I think what it also really taught me
again to circle back to, like whenever I speak like
a college classes and you know, especially to young women
who want to be on air, I say I always
pick up a number that sounds kind of alarming, So
like seventeen percent of what I do or why I'm
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good at my job is what I do on television.
It's a very low number in my opinion, Like whatever,
you don'a call it all that other stuff. Why you're
good is off camera, it's when the lights are not on.
It's being a good person. Do the players and coaches
want to talk to you, like are are you a
nice person? Are you approachable? Are you? You know? Because
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if you are great on TV or great on camera,
but you're not a nice person over here, like you're not,
that's not sustainable and so covering hockey. I very much
like took this stance with the guys on that team
are just like I would just walk in the locker
room be like I don't know much like can you
help me here? Like who do I even ask you
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to get a good question on the to get a
good answer on the back end. And so I think
entering that form that format with like humility was very
eye opening to me of the relationships that I made,
the friendships that I got um the players were just
very much like, oh, that's fine, like we will help you,
and it just was and as eventually, I've always taken
(10:01):
that stance no matter the most random job I did.
I covered a horse jumping event once and which I
know you like would thrive at, and I just was like,
I don't know what I'm doing here, can you help me?
And it just was like it's amazing how far that
will take you. And so not always I've just kind
of always cared that with me, Like, listen, clearly, there
are people out here that care about this more than
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I do, who know it more than I do, And
I'm not here to take away from this viewing experience.
I want to bolster it. I just don't know how
help me. I think that that message that you just
said about being a good person has actually been one
of the most consistent themes with following you in your career,
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because I feel like that's the epitome of who you are.
Because when you got this new job with Good Morning Football,
at least from an outside, third party perspective, I feel
like that took over social media for like at least
like a week of people, all of these people just
expressing how how happy they were for you, how grateful
they were to have you joining the squad. What was
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that like just knowing that that's one of these principles
that you stand on, but then like really truly seeing
it come to fruition. That was really cool. It was
and this this is not something that bothered me. I
think like the general response was, Oh, I didn't even
think about her, but like that's such a good choice,
and like I really that, Like I'm fine with that,
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that's great. Like, of course the natural inclination would be like, oh,
pick one of the many talented women that are at
the network, and for whatever reason, they pulled me from back,
you know, from NFL to college and then back and
of course to me, I was convinced that I was
supposed to be the person for the job. But like
the fact that other people saw that that the connectivity
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between like everything I've done in my career just really
really felt like this is like the best next job
that I could do. This makes so much sense for
everything that I've done in my life and the teams
I've covered and the jobs that I've had, Like this
is so it It felt so right. Um, it was
so incredibly flattering to hear from the people that I did,
(12:10):
to see the response, and I think the most flattering
part of that was from people I don't know that
well who had just seen me work or maybecome a
cross once or twice, like that makes a lot of sense.
And you know, it wasn't a polarizing pick. It wasn't,
you know. It just was like and that I took
a lot of pride in that, like, yeah, I'm like
the right person for this job right now, you know,
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five years ago, maybe not five years from now, maybe not,
but like for what they needed in that chair, um
for three hours a day moving forward, Like for people
to say like that makes so much sense, Like that
was really really amazing to hear. I think it's even
better because I didn't meet you until today virtually even
but from following you and watching your interviews on CBS
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and even watching Instagram stories where you're doing the Toby
Toss where you're like throwing food to your dog Toby,
like it all makes sense for this show. It's like
such a perfect fit. But I feel like the biggest
challenge for you must have been and correct me if
I'm wrong, but you go from sideline reporting where it's
thirty seconds maybe postgame interviews ranged two a minute and
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a half max. To then three hours of live TV.
How did you do that? Well? I'll say over the
last couple of years, I was starting to get the itch,
like to do something to have more time, um. And
I was starting to kind of inspect like the sports
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radio landscape, if you will, just like as a supplement, um,
because that just kind of felt like I would listen
to those guys. I was living in Minnesota at the time,
and I was like, these guys have the time of
their lives. They have so much time to talk, like
they just get to blow through commercials and they just
like this. The freedom here is incredible. Um. Whereas God
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forbid you ever like spoke over a snap during during
a football game, like that's you know, that is literally
the opposite ends of the freedom, you know, editorial perspective
that you can get. So, um, I was thrilled to
have the three hour platform, if you will, five days
a week. That the amount of time never intimidated me.
It was in fact, it was just very exciting to
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have that. Um what I have. Actually, it's it's funny
that we're talking today what I have mostly struggled with
like this week, and it was like thinking about why
this was. I was having a hard week on the show.
It's just just like four months in, you know, we're
kind of hitting the we're almost at the midway point
of the season. Um. I I have never had to
kind of like sharpen that skill set in my of
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like it's my opinion, stand by it and kind of
take in the way to live that life. And um
after four months of it, I'm just kind of like, oh,
this is real. This is every day you gotta get
up there and you're your picking your thing and you're
putting some numbers behind it, and like that's your voice
and that's your name. End I was talking to some
people on the show yesterday about like this is such
(15:04):
a strange parallel, but hang with me. Like Anne half
Away and Jennifer Lawrence had both at these moments in
their careers as actresses when they're like, we just took
a break because we felt like people were sick of me,
and so we just kind of stopped making some movies
and like now we're back, but like we just had
this sense. I have this like weird sense this week
like I was sick of seeing me, Like I just
was like I'm kind of over hearing my voice, and
like the fact that Peter and Kyle can be doing
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this for six years is like mind bottling to me.
I think this is just like I didn't see this coming.
Is like the hardest part of this job, but it's
very real. Just like this is a train that doesn't
stop on the tracks. There is no option to stop,
Thank goodness. We have new football content every week to
keep the train rolling. Um, But it's never the amount
of time on the show. It's not the highlight. It's
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not how fast paced it is, like getting caught live
on camera not a problem. It's like the you you
put your word behind something every day and you want
to take pride in it and people are really attached
to it, and that has that's still taking some adjusting
to me. Yeah, that's hard because it's it's every single
day and it's there is new football content for better
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for worse. I think that's hard because and like inherently,
you know, you say something positive about another team, and
there are certain van bases that inherently think that you
aren't directly insulting their team, like just find like and
Peter like always Peter Streeker always tries to preach to
us like we let's been a positive, let's look at it,
you know. So I've really tried to hone that craft
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of like it's very easy to go here and go
negative or nasty or you know, shred them down, But
to go here is like you really have to focus
on the positive. So it's a fun way to look
at football. I think it's a much more sustainable way. Um,
but there are people who really really think that you
are like directly calling them out, like you guys suck
because this guy is good. It's like, no, no, that's
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not it's not all this works. But like it's you know,
you want to like shape the logic into some people
and know, I promise this guy is just Superman. It's
not think was that hard adjusting to the chemistry because
I feel like it's also just such a personality based
show and not having I don't think, and again, correct
(17:13):
me if I'm wrong. There was a lot of time
to build that chemistry before you guys actually hit the
ground running with live shows. How was that adjustment made?
Because what were to happen. Let's say, if you and
Peter Schreeger were to butt heads all the time, you
know what I'm saying, that would make for good TV.
I don't know. I think they again, I think they
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That was part of the hiring process, was like, let's
find somebody and Jamie and Jason that like, again, the
word sustainable always seems to come up, and it applies
to a lot of different situations on the show, but
like they have to find people that, like, you've got
to be able to hang with each other fifteen hours
a week. Um, now, I think there are some things
that are done. And I honestly, in hindsight when it
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was happening, I was like, are we sure about this?
We literally the four of us out for like a lunch,
a single lunch before we were alive on the year
on Monday July a lunch and so it's like, how
did they just do that and then throw us to
the wolves essentially, But I think it's made for this
like great, like snowball effective, like we're we are figuring
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each other out as we go. Um, you know, just
little things of like Kyle really this really seems like
a Kyle thing where he could go for like five
minutes or we get to the bottom of an hour
and all of a sudden, we're like, oh my god,
we have six minutes we have to fill here. And
if one of us is like I'll take one for
the team, I got a hot take and great, like
you're so grateful for this person who's gonna like step up.
And we just seem to have done that for each
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other in a lot of different ways. Um. We went
to London together for a week and I think that
was really great for our group chemistry, Like nothing else
to do, and we all we all have kids, and
of our kids were there. We just had to hang out.
That was really fun. And then we're gonna go to
Germany next month. So um, but just generally like I
really like the guys. It's just like kind of that simple.
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I've always really liked my broadcast as partners that I've
worked with. I take a lot of pride in the
friendships that I have uh off the air, and like
these this is becoming the same. That's so special, I
feel like, because obviously it's ideal to have chemistry. It
doesn't always happen like that. But when you just genuinely
enjoy the people that you get to spend that much
time with but then talk football with every day, it's
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like a true dream come true. Is there any parts
obviously this is so exciting, but are there any parts
of sideline reporting that you miss the most that almost
may be surprised you that you didn't think you would
miss as much. Um, let's say the list is longer
that I don't miss than what I do miss. Um,
But I do miss the guy as I miss Brad
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and Gary um brad Nessla and Gary Daniels and a lot.
We're very close. I mean they were around for both
the births of my children and they're you know, we
were really great friends. And I don't miss the atmospheres
yet because CBS just as this incredible job covering the games,
and like I know everybody who's in the production truck
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still and I just like I can almost put myself
back there, and like watching Jenny Dell full circle like
five in that role has been incredible and I really
feel at peace about not being there. I enjoy watching
the games from afar. I think it was eight years
of being at you know, on location check in. Ask
me the same question. In a year, I might be
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like clamoring to get back, but like fresh off of
not doing it, like it feels okay. I feel really
proud of what we did. I feel proud of those friendships,
and I'm really proud of Jenny for doing what she's
doing well. I'm loving watching you on Good Morning Football,
so selfishly I'm I'm loving this new role for you.
So glad it's all worked out. But I have two
things before we go. I would be remiss if I
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did not ask you. I know you're a Minnesota Vikings
fan because you grew up Minnesota born and bread about
the New York Jets five and two, I feel like
a bit of a surprise to everyone who wasn't inside
the building and was looking in on from the outside,
What have you thought of what you've seen from this
team on the field so far. I always like, I'm okay,
like you grew up like anywhere anybody grew up. Like
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even if I'm I am a Vikings fan, I guess,
but it's like you, I have such attachment to people
in my life that care so much about the Vikings.
How about that? Like to spin it that way where
I'm not I Am not gonna be like crying tears
if they like lose to the Giants, Let's say, like
in the NFC Championship, I'd be like, great, run, Like
that's great, but like I feel for the people in
my life regardless the New York Jets. Okay. So, like
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you could pick different times in the off season where
you're like this, and then when the season started like
this is this is gonna be a tough year, Like
they're gonna be able to hang, but this is gonna
be hard, and then like Zach Wilson goes down and
you're like are you serious? Like this this in September,
You're like, well, for any inkling that we had that
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like they maybe would have finished like third in the division.
Like there it goes because like that was like that
his team chemistry and like chemistry with the receivers and
the offensive line, and like you know that he just
misses four games or five games where like the chemistry
couldn't build. But then it's just like Joe Flacco hung
and like Joe Flacco would just put you guys in
situations where like what like what happened? I like, actually,
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like mind going to me. I remember doing a segment
early in September where it was like, what do the
Jets have to do without Zach Wilson And I just said,
like survived September and like then you'll be okay and
you've done that, and then some I absolutely love Sauce Gardener,
like unbelievable. I hate what happened to Breese Hall. I
love the trade that you made with James Robinson, Like
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I just think I love Robert Sala. I know he
said up Peter Scheger's podcast and he kind of wishes
he hadn't said the thing about the receipts. I love it,
and I'm gonna keep bringing it up. Um. I love
Quinn and Williams, like it's just I there's there's a
lot to like about this team and I'm glad you
said the thing about like people not in the building,
because I think that's the most important thing, is like
regardless of anything anybody said, as if it's not in
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the building, that something good could happen. Like that season
is so hard to get through. Jason mccordy talks often
of like his oh and sixteen year with the Cleveland Browns,
like it was that was a hard year, like and
that shaped him as a man um and as a player.
But this team, like you you can tell you still
had people in the building, the players, the young players,
like wearing the cheese head at Lambeau, Like, my god,
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Like there's just like so blissfully incredible because he just
doesn't know, like he just was enjoying his life. He
just beat the Packers. He just beat the quarterback that
he like played mad with. I love it exactly. And
even Breece Hall doing the Lambea leap. I think that
was just it was just two rookies that really you
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saw them enjoying the moment for what it was like
it was like the justin fields, like sliding in the
end zone at the beginning of the season in the rain,
like it's just we like everything about like what the
Jets did at Lambeau. To me, it was just like
it was fantastic. It was great to watch, it was
great to be there be a part of it. But
I think the thing that you said about bringing back
up the building, it's it's been so incredible to watch
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the locker room, especially after there were two losses on
the docket for the Jets and they in the locker room.
Every player you talked to was like, that's not us,
Like we have more in the tank, that's not us.
And now you're really starting to see it build. And
while there's definitely some question marks with the injuries that
(24:28):
happened last week, I think it's just such an exciting
time for this young team. And selfishly, again for me,
it's amazing because I get to be right next to it,
so it's even better. Well, you know, we we had
we were talking about Aaron Rodgers on the show this
morning and the and the stuff that he has said
after their losses, which is like, um, if we all
come together and if we take ownership and if the
(24:49):
players take over, and I understood what he was saying,
like and he even said it on the pet McAfee
show Like I don't mean players usurping the coach's power.
What I mean is like the players take ownership of it.
Like the Jets are actually the prime example of what
it looks like when the players have taken ownership of
like how they want to play and then executing how
they want to play. Yeah, and I think that's such
(25:10):
an incredibly amazing thing for them to all be doing.
But before we go, my last question, I can't I
can't not ask you this. You played Taylor Swift midnight
version bing Go on Good Morning Football. There has not
been a more impressive thing, Like I don't know what
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it would be, because that was so amazing. It filled
it ticked every box for me. I was like she
slipped in every song name in the three hours. It
was seamless. You nobody would have known. It was so perfect.
And it was right after the album came out. I
was dying watching it was amazing. So I had this
idea to do this and the other the album comes
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out at midnight, and then I my my three year old,
woke up at like three thirty and then I had
looked at Twitter and she had just put out seven
more songs, and I was like she's just like a wizard,
but Taylor Swift not my three year old. And so
I get to the show and I'm listening and I'm
listening on the way in and the out the names
were great and I and I was like, you know what,
I'm gonna try to do this. So I get about
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eight songs in before I even told the guys, because
I didn't, I use. I really kind of settled in
and after the first hour, I was like, I'm trying
to do this. I'm eight for twenty so far. And
then they were really into it, and the one to
me that was the hardest one. A couple of the
high infidelity was really challenging, and so I just looked
it up and then that's how I felt the Ario
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Speedwagon albums and like and and like Kyle is just
like eighties music, like the Fistinado so high infidelity, and
then they have like Born on the Run was like
a single. I just was like, how this is so
perfect and I forget I think we were talking about
stay Bon mark Ley or something, and I just was like,
you know that album high infidelity, and Kyle just looked
at me like you are such a little like and
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I just like, take product my list and then I
think I just yelled like something in Paris, like at
the end of the show, just to get it in
as cold as Paris. But yeah, it was. That was
a fun way to do it. But I wouldn't I
couldn't do that every day, but it was. It was tricky.
Snow on the beach off of that? What's your top
three from that album? Okay? Um? I love Lavender Hayes,
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I love how it starts, um carton, Okay, what's the
one where draw a cat I sharp enough to kill
a man? Is that? I think that's vigilante? Vigilante s
h I T love that and then um uh and
then would it could have shout out that's really good.
That's a great one. Yeah, I mean they're all great.
I can't get enough of her. If she were to
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drop seven more. So good, so good, so good. But Jamie,
thank you so so much. This has been so fun.
You're the best. Can't wait to be watching you on
Good Morning Football. And thank you for all your insights
on the Jets and your entire career. We really are
thank you, thank you for having me awesome. Thanks so
much for listening to another episode of New Yorker with
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Jamie Urtle. Make sure you check us out out on
the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you
listen to your podcasts. We will see you soon for
another episode of New Yorker. Yeah,
Welcome to another episode of New York Her. I'm your host,
Caroline Hendershot. Today we have another amazing guest on deck.
We have the host of Good Morning Football, Jamie Artle. Jamie,
thank you so much for joining us. I'm so excited
we were just talking off camera. I feel like this
is a full circle moment. I used to follow you
when I was in college, and now you're in New York,
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so it's perfect. It's like a true dream come true
for me. Thank you. That's so kind. I'm so happy
to talk with you guys today. I am. I just
realized this week is four months on the show, so
I feel like I have my sea legs under me
and I can start kind of doing more things like this.
So happy and yet a hundred percent. I mean, I'm
sure you were have already been up for half the
day given the early calls for Good Morning Football, but
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even still we're ready to go. So I want to
start out with the beginning of your career and how
you even knew or discovered that you even wanted to
go into sports broadcasting. Um. Wow, So you know, I
think hindsight is twenty. I would have loved to have
said like when I was you know, middle school or
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high school, that I knew that this was even a
job or career opportunity. Frankly, I did not. I think
if you went back and talked to teachers that I had,
mostly like in high school, they none of them, ten
out of ten would not be surprised that this is
what I'm doing for a living. I very much. Um.
I you know, struggled academically. I was not a kid
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that would sit in classrooms. Well, I had to be
up walking around talking to people. I am a true extrovert.
I have to be moving in order to retain information.
And Um, all of this to say that, you know,
sideline reporting and hosting and people talking in your ears,
like all of this skill set, the skill sets just
play into who I always was. It just in a
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school setting. You know, it never really uh seemed like
I had you know, I was like on the best path,
if you will. Um all this being said to discover
then that that sports television and broadcasting was something that
I could do and uh you know do well. UM,
I was so thrilled to discover this as an option
in my life. UM. I went to a small school
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in Minnesota for college to play basketball and softball. But
when I really discovered that like broadcasting was a degree
and internships and television were an opportunity, I um transferred
to American University in d C, which, being in Washington,
d C is just a journalism hub if you will,
you know, it's a little bit more politically journalistically inclined.
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But I went to a school that allowed me to
do a ton of stuff, and it just sports broadcasting
always spoke to me. I had an internship in college
at ESPN as a producer, as a kind of broadcast
associate producer, and I love behind the scenes stuff, and
I'll tell you that. When I finished that production internship
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at ESPN, I told myself, if I give myself a
year to get an on air television job, a one
that I really love of, I will stay trying to
do on our television. If I don't, I want to
be a producer, like I just always loved the production
and I never it wasn't really about being on TV
for me. It was like being around sports television. The
comment about school is hilarious because I feel like the
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constant note on my report card to was talks too
much in class, like great student talks too much in class,
like our dean. I went to a small private school,
like our dean of students was the football coach, and
I would like get stuck in the hallway like talking
to him about football. But I was like late to class,
but like he was the dean, and so I just
was like, you know it, just they go back. I
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think they would just shake my head at me now
to be like, of course, this is what you're doing.
Like we couldn't get you to sit still. You were
talking to everybody, and I was like, well, you know,
it paid off eventually, It all works out in the
end at all Orchid. But that comment that you made
about producing and just always loving being involved in the
process when you got your first job with Nesson, I
know there was a variety of a sports that you
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were covering, but be jobs that you were doing. You
were hosts and reporting, There was a lot of different
work there. Did that factor of loving to be helping
in production and behind the scenes come into play a
lot with that? It did. I felt like actually my
internship experience doing the production side helped me a lot
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being on air. Truly in a job at twenty four UM,
I was very green, and working in New England and
Boston in particular as a market is very intense. It's
very cutthroat. The fans will suss you out if you
don't know what you're doing. And so I felt like
my love for the production side of television, coupled with
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having played college basketball and just knowing basketball, I really
kind of teed myself up, at least to my bosses
at the time, like, Hey, send me to the Celtics games. Hey,
let me do Boston University basketball. Like I knew that
if I could, if you put me in a basketball
environment at least to start my career, I would be fine.
I could swim. And that's kind of what again got
my sea legs under me with, um, I can do
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this as a job. And then all of a sudden,
I was at Patriots practice and I was out in
socks storing the World Series. UM, and so it definitely
had a snowball effect. But I am somebody who formally
believes like you have to work if you're gonna work
in television, you have to work from the back road
to the front because if you don't know, like on
Good Morning Football, like when things go awry, if a
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guest cancels if an element doesn't go like a you
have to know who to talk to if it's a
problem or be You have to be able to problem
solve that as the show is unfolding live and so
I think really good talented broadcasters like no television inside
and now. I think that's probably the hardest thing about
your current role is three hours of live television. I
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don't think anybody truly understands that until probably you're in
the seat doing it. But we're gonna come back to that.
I want to talk about your stint with stint. It
was eight years, eight years with CBS, because then you
go from a very green, mean new reporter at nesson
to then going to CBS and you're doing March Madness,
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You're covering NFL games, you're covering your you become the
lead sideline reporter for SEC. How big of a jump
was that, not only in your career, but then for
you to grow personally? All right, So here's what happened.
I was at Innsson and it was a really wonderful
two years there, but I really realized, like, I think
I can be good at this. I think there is
a part of me that can shine in certain environments.
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And in my second year at Nesson um Jenny Dell,
who we were at Nessen at the same time, she
moved on from the Red Sox job. And now I
had been there for one year. I have filled in
for her fifty games, so I had a good understanding
of what it meant to have that job. And um,
after I played college basketball and college softball, so like
I I baseball, Like if you find your real yeah.
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So I went to my bosses at Nesson and was like,
I really I want this job. I would like to
have the Red Sox job, and they gave it to
somebody else, and um, I was doing hockey at the
time time, I was covering the Bruins. And to me,
that covering hockey for a year, I learned a lot
of lessons. I learned a lot about hockey. I have
a greater appreciation for it now than I ever did before.
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I think the athletes are some of the most incredible
athletes I've ever come across. But to me, eight two
plus games of hockey, I've never had less confidence in
my voice than I ever did covering hockey. And it
just and that's and I had to become okay with that,
Like it's okay to not be like the best at
every single sport that you cover. I think you have
to work with things that I think you should just
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write yourself off and doing something. But I just never
got there with hockey. And it really was kind of
like hurting my heart that, like there were other things
out there that I know that I would sound more
confident in talking about it and doing it and covering it,
and hockey just wasn't it for me. Not saying I
don't love the sport, really love the Bruins. I had
a grandual time traveling all over the country in Canada
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for that matter, covering hockey, but it just wasn't me.
And so when CBS came calling, um to do basketball
and to do football, I just was like yes this
and all this being said, like nesson, really, I think
the trajectory of my career would have changed if they
had given me that Red Sox job, because I just
was like, Wow, I cannot do hockey. This is not
sustainable for me. And so when CBS called, I had
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to go for a lot of reasons, um, but the
fact that I got to cover basketball, it just like
really brought me back to kind of like the whole
reason why I got into this, not specifically just because
of hockey, but how big of a time do you think,
like that teaching lesson was for you, not necessarily just
like okay, I don't love hockey, but more so what
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it taught you about yourself? So uh, that's a really
good question. I think what it also really taught me
again to circle back to, like whenever I speak like
a college classes and you know, especially to young women
who want to be on air, I say I always
pick up a number that sounds kind of alarming, So
like seventeen percent of what I do or why I'm
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good at my job is what I do on television.
It's a very low number in my opinion, Like whatever,
you don'a call it all that other stuff. Why you're
good is off camera, it's when the lights are not on.
It's being a good person. Do the players and coaches
want to talk to you, like are are you a
nice person? Are you approachable? Are you? You know? Because
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if you are great on TV or great on camera,
but you're not a nice person over here, like you're not,
that's not sustainable and so covering hockey. I very much
like took this stance with the guys on that team
are just like I would just walk in the locker
room be like I don't know much like can you
help me here? Like who do I even ask you
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to get a good question on the to get a
good answer on the back end. And so I think
entering that form that format with like humility was very
eye opening to me of the relationships that I made,
the friendships that I got um the players were just
very much like, oh, that's fine, like we will help you,
and it just was and as eventually, I've always taken
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that stance no matter the most random job I did.
I covered a horse jumping event once and which I
know you like would thrive at, and I just was like,
I don't know what I'm doing here, can you help me?
And it just was like it's amazing how far that
will take you. And so not always I've just kind
of always cared that with me, Like, listen, clearly, there
are people out here that care about this more than
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I do, who know it more than I do, And
I'm not here to take away from this viewing experience.
I want to bolster it. I just don't know how
help me. I think that that message that you just
said about being a good person has actually been one
of the most consistent themes with following you in your career,
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because I feel like that's the epitome of who you are.
Because when you got this new job with Good Morning Football,
at least from an outside, third party perspective, I feel
like that took over social media for like at least
like a week of people, all of these people just
expressing how how happy they were for you, how grateful
they were to have you joining the squad. What was
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that like just knowing that that's one of these principles
that you stand on, but then like really truly seeing
it come to fruition. That was really cool. It was
and this this is not something that bothered me. I
think like the general response was, Oh, I didn't even
think about her, but like that's such a good choice,
and like I really that, Like I'm fine with that,
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that's great. Like, of course the natural inclination would be like, oh,
pick one of the many talented women that are at
the network, and for whatever reason, they pulled me from back,
you know, from NFL to college and then back and
of course to me, I was convinced that I was
supposed to be the person for the job. But like
the fact that other people saw that that the connectivity
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between like everything I've done in my career just really
really felt like this is like the best next job
that I could do. This makes so much sense for
everything that I've done in my life and the teams
I've covered and the jobs that I've had, Like this
is so it It felt so right. Um, it was
so incredibly flattering to hear from the people that I did,
(12:10):
to see the response, and I think the most flattering
part of that was from people I don't know that
well who had just seen me work or maybecome a
cross once or twice, like that makes a lot of sense.
And you know, it wasn't a polarizing pick. It wasn't,
you know. It just was like and that I took
a lot of pride in that, like, yeah, I'm like
the right person for this job right now, you know,
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five years ago, maybe not five years from now, maybe not,
but like for what they needed in that chair, um
for three hours a day moving forward, Like for people
to say like that makes so much sense, Like that
was really really amazing to hear. I think it's even
better because I didn't meet you until today virtually even
but from following you and watching your interviews on CBS
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and even watching Instagram stories where you're doing the Toby
Toss where you're like throwing food to your dog Toby,
like it all makes sense for this show. It's like
such a perfect fit. But I feel like the biggest
challenge for you must have been and correct me if
I'm wrong, but you go from sideline reporting where it's
thirty seconds maybe postgame interviews ranged two a minute and
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a half max. To then three hours of live TV.
How did you do that? Well? I'll say over the
last couple of years, I was starting to get the itch,
like to do something to have more time, um. And
I was starting to kind of inspect like the sports
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radio landscape, if you will, just like as a supplement, um,
because that just kind of felt like I would listen
to those guys. I was living in Minnesota at the time,
and I was like, these guys have the time of
their lives. They have so much time to talk, like
they just get to blow through commercials and they just
like this. The freedom here is incredible. Um. Whereas God
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forbid you ever like spoke over a snap during during
a football game, like that's you know, that is literally
the opposite ends of the freedom, you know, editorial perspective
that you can get. So, um, I was thrilled to
have the three hour platform, if you will, five days
a week. That the amount of time never intimidated me.
It was in fact, it was just very exciting to
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have that. Um what I have. Actually, it's it's funny
that we're talking today what I have mostly struggled with
like this week, and it was like thinking about why
this was. I was having a hard week on the show.
It's just just like four months in, you know, we're
kind of hitting the we're almost at the midway point
of the season. Um. I I have never had to
kind of like sharpen that skill set in my of
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like it's my opinion, stand by it and kind of
take in the way to live that life. And um
after four months of it, I'm just kind of like, oh,
this is real. This is every day you gotta get
up there and you're your picking your thing and you're
putting some numbers behind it, and like that's your voice
and that's your name. End I was talking to some
people on the show yesterday about like this is such
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a strange parallel, but hang with me. Like Anne half
Away and Jennifer Lawrence had both at these moments in
their careers as actresses when they're like, we just took
a break because we felt like people were sick of me,
and so we just kind of stopped making some movies
and like now we're back, but like we just had
this sense. I have this like weird sense this week
like I was sick of seeing me, Like I just
was like I'm kind of over hearing my voice, and
like the fact that Peter and Kyle can be doing
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this for six years is like mind bottling to me.
I think this is just like I didn't see this coming.
Is like the hardest part of this job, but it's
very real. Just like this is a train that doesn't
stop on the tracks. There is no option to stop,
Thank goodness. We have new football content every week to
keep the train rolling. Um, But it's never the amount
of time on the show. It's not the highlight. It's
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not how fast paced it is, like getting caught live
on camera not a problem. It's like the you you
put your word behind something every day and you want
to take pride in it and people are really attached
to it, and that has that's still taking some adjusting
to me. Yeah, that's hard because it's it's every single
day and it's there is new football content for better
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for worse. I think that's hard because and like inherently,
you know, you say something positive about another team, and
there are certain van bases that inherently think that you
aren't directly insulting their team, like just find like and
Peter like always Peter Streeker always tries to preach to
us like we let's been a positive, let's look at it,
you know. So I've really tried to hone that craft
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of like it's very easy to go here and go
negative or nasty or you know, shred them down, But
to go here is like you really have to focus
on the positive. So it's a fun way to look
at football. I think it's a much more sustainable way. Um,
but there are people who really really think that you
are like directly calling them out, like you guys suck
because this guy is good. It's like, no, no, that's
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not it's not all this works. But like it's you know,
you want to like shape the logic into some people
and know, I promise this guy is just Superman. It's
not think was that hard adjusting to the chemistry because
I feel like it's also just such a personality based
show and not having I don't think, and again, correct
(17:13):
me if I'm wrong. There was a lot of time
to build that chemistry before you guys actually hit the
ground running with live shows. How was that adjustment made?
Because what were to happen. Let's say, if you and
Peter Schreeger were to butt heads all the time, you
know what I'm saying, that would make for good TV.
I don't know. I think they again, I think they
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That was part of the hiring process, was like, let's
find somebody and Jamie and Jason that like, again, the
word sustainable always seems to come up, and it applies
to a lot of different situations on the show, but
like they have to find people that, like, you've got
to be able to hang with each other fifteen hours
a week. Um, now, I think there are some things
that are done. And I honestly, in hindsight when it
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was happening, I was like, are we sure about this?
We literally the four of us out for like a lunch,
a single lunch before we were alive on the year
on Monday July a lunch and so it's like, how
did they just do that and then throw us to
the wolves essentially, But I think it's made for this
like great, like snowball effective, like we're we are figuring
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each other out as we go. Um, you know, just
little things of like Kyle really this really seems like
a Kyle thing where he could go for like five
minutes or we get to the bottom of an hour
and all of a sudden, we're like, oh my god,
we have six minutes we have to fill here. And
if one of us is like I'll take one for
the team, I got a hot take and great, like
you're so grateful for this person who's gonna like step up.
And we just seem to have done that for each
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other in a lot of different ways. Um. We went
to London together for a week and I think that
was really great for our group chemistry, Like nothing else
to do, and we all we all have kids, and
of our kids were there. We just had to hang out.
That was really fun. And then we're gonna go to
Germany next month. So um, but just generally like I
really like the guys. It's just like kind of that simple.
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I've always really liked my broadcast as partners that I've
worked with. I take a lot of pride in the
friendships that I have uh off the air, and like
these this is becoming the same. That's so special, I
feel like, because obviously it's ideal to have chemistry. It
doesn't always happen like that. But when you just genuinely
enjoy the people that you get to spend that much
time with but then talk football with every day, it's
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like a true dream come true. Is there any parts
obviously this is so exciting, but are there any parts
of sideline reporting that you miss the most that almost
may be surprised you that you didn't think you would
miss as much. Um, let's say the list is longer
that I don't miss than what I do miss. Um,
But I do miss the guy as I miss Brad
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and Gary um brad Nessla and Gary Daniels and a lot.
We're very close. I mean they were around for both
the births of my children and they're you know, we
were really great friends. And I don't miss the atmospheres
yet because CBS just as this incredible job covering the games,
and like I know everybody who's in the production truck
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still and I just like I can almost put myself
back there, and like watching Jenny Dell full circle like
five in that role has been incredible and I really
feel at peace about not being there. I enjoy watching
the games from afar. I think it was eight years
of being at you know, on location check in. Ask
me the same question. In a year, I might be
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like clamoring to get back, but like fresh off of
not doing it, like it feels okay. I feel really
proud of what we did. I feel proud of those friendships,
and I'm really proud of Jenny for doing what she's
doing well. I'm loving watching you on Good Morning Football,
so selfishly I'm I'm loving this new role for you.
So glad it's all worked out. But I have two
things before we go. I would be remiss if I
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did not ask you. I know you're a Minnesota Vikings
fan because you grew up Minnesota born and bread about
the New York Jets five and two, I feel like
a bit of a surprise to everyone who wasn't inside
the building and was looking in on from the outside,
What have you thought of what you've seen from this
team on the field so far. I always like, I'm okay,
like you grew up like anywhere anybody grew up. Like
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even if I'm I am a Vikings fan, I guess,
but it's like you, I have such attachment to people
in my life that care so much about the Vikings.
How about that? Like to spin it that way where
I'm not I Am not gonna be like crying tears
if they like lose to the Giants, Let's say, like
in the NFC Championship, I'd be like, great, run, Like
that's great, but like I feel for the people in
my life regardless the New York Jets. Okay. So, like
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you could pick different times in the off season where
you're like this, and then when the season started like
this is this is gonna be a tough year, Like
they're gonna be able to hang, but this is gonna
be hard, and then like Zach Wilson goes down and
you're like are you serious? Like this this in September,
You're like, well, for any inkling that we had that
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like they maybe would have finished like third in the division.
Like there it goes because like that was like that
his team chemistry and like chemistry with the receivers and
the offensive line, and like you know that he just
misses four games or five games where like the chemistry
couldn't build. But then it's just like Joe Flacco hung
and like Joe Flacco would just put you guys in
situations where like what like what happened? I like, actually,
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like mind going to me. I remember doing a segment
early in September where it was like, what do the
Jets have to do without Zach Wilson And I just said,
like survived September and like then you'll be okay and
you've done that, and then some I absolutely love Sauce Gardener,
like unbelievable. I hate what happened to Breese Hall. I
love the trade that you made with James Robinson, Like
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I just think I love Robert Sala. I know he
said up Peter Scheger's podcast and he kind of wishes
he hadn't said the thing about the receipts. I love it,
and I'm gonna keep bringing it up. Um. I love
Quinn and Williams, like it's just I there's there's a
lot to like about this team and I'm glad you
said the thing about like people not in the building,
because I think that's the most important thing, is like
regardless of anything anybody said, as if it's not in
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the building, that something good could happen. Like that season
is so hard to get through. Jason mccordy talks often
of like his oh and sixteen year with the Cleveland Browns,
like it was that was a hard year, like and
that shaped him as a man um and as a player.
But this team, like you you can tell you still
had people in the building, the players, the young players,
like wearing the cheese head at Lambeau, Like, my god,
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Like there's just like so blissfully incredible because he just
doesn't know, like he just was enjoying his life. He
just beat the Packers. He just beat the quarterback that
he like played mad with. I love it exactly. And
even Breece Hall doing the Lambea leap. I think that
was just it was just two rookies that really you
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saw them enjoying the moment for what it was like
it was like the justin fields, like sliding in the
end zone at the beginning of the season in the rain,
like it's just we like everything about like what the
Jets did at Lambeau. To me, it was just like
it was fantastic. It was great to watch, it was
great to be there be a part of it. But
I think the thing that you said about bringing back
up the building, it's it's been so incredible to watch
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the locker room, especially after there were two losses on
the docket for the Jets and they in the locker room.
Every player you talked to was like, that's not us,
Like we have more in the tank, that's not us.
And now you're really starting to see it build. And
while there's definitely some question marks with the injuries that
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happened last week, I think it's just such an exciting
time for this young team. And selfishly, again for me,
it's amazing because I get to be right next to it,
so it's even better. Well, you know, we we had
we were talking about Aaron Rodgers on the show this
morning and the and the stuff that he has said
after their losses, which is like, um, if we all
come together and if we take ownership and if the
(24:49):
players take over, and I understood what he was saying,
like and he even said it on the pet McAfee
show Like I don't mean players usurping the coach's power.
What I mean is like the players take ownership of it.
Like the Jets are actually the prime example of what
it looks like when the players have taken ownership of
like how they want to play and then executing how
they want to play. Yeah, and I think that's such
(25:10):
an incredibly amazing thing for them to all be doing.
But before we go, my last question, I can't I
can't not ask you this. You played Taylor Swift midnight
version bing Go on Good Morning Football. There has not
been a more impressive thing, Like I don't know what
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it would be, because that was so amazing. It filled
it ticked every box for me. I was like she
slipped in every song name in the three hours. It
was seamless. You nobody would have known. It was so perfect.
And it was right after the album came out. I
was dying watching it was amazing. So I had this
idea to do this and the other the album comes
(25:52):
out at midnight, and then I my my three year old,
woke up at like three thirty and then I had
looked at Twitter and she had just put out seven
more songs, and I was like she's just like a wizard,
but Taylor Swift not my three year old. And so
I get to the show and I'm listening and I'm
listening on the way in and the out the names
were great and I and I was like, you know what,
I'm gonna try to do this. So I get about
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eight songs in before I even told the guys, because
I didn't, I use. I really kind of settled in
and after the first hour, I was like, I'm trying
to do this. I'm eight for twenty so far. And
then they were really into it, and the one to
me that was the hardest one. A couple of the
high infidelity was really challenging, and so I just looked
it up and then that's how I felt the Ario
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Speedwagon albums and like and and like Kyle is just
like eighties music, like the Fistinado so high infidelity, and
then they have like Born on the Run was like
a single. I just was like, how this is so
perfect and I forget I think we were talking about
stay Bon mark Ley or something, and I just was like,
you know that album high infidelity, and Kyle just looked
at me like you are such a little like and
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I just like, take product my list and then I
think I just yelled like something in Paris, like at
the end of the show, just to get it in
as cold as Paris. But yeah, it was. That was
a fun way to do it. But I wouldn't I
couldn't do that every day, but it was. It was tricky.
Snow on the beach off of that? What's your top
three from that album? Okay? Um? I love Lavender Hayes,
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I love how it starts, um carton, Okay, what's the
one where draw a cat I sharp enough to kill
a man? Is that? I think that's vigilante? Vigilante s
h I T love that and then um uh and
then would it could have shout out that's really good.
That's a great one. Yeah, I mean they're all great.
I can't get enough of her. If she were to
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drop seven more. So good, so good, so good. But Jamie,
thank you so so much. This has been so fun.
You're the best. Can't wait to be watching you on
Good Morning Football. And thank you for all your insights
on the Jets and your entire career. We really are
thank you, thank you for having me awesome. Thanks so
much for listening to another episode of New Yorker with
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Jamie Urtle. Make sure you check us out out on
the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you
listen to your podcasts. We will see you soon for
another episode of New Yorker. Yeah,
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