August 31, 2023 • 40 mins
Host Caroline Hendershot kicks off Season four of the New YorkHER podcast presented by Nike featuring Kay Adams, host of the Up and Adams Show. Adams discusses her journey from Chicago to Mizzou (3:17) and how that led to her to chasing her dreams of being a broadcaster and the atypical route she took to get there (5:22). She also reflects on the beginning of her career (6:57) doing local radio shifts in Missouri and her job with SiriusXM and how that helped her get to where she is now (7:45). Adams details her job with the St. Louis Cardinals (12:00) and her advice to those with an interest in media and broadcast journalism (13:10). Hendershot and Adams break down Adams’ experience and favorite moments in her six years at Good Morning Football (19:45). The two then discuss Adams’ new show, Up and Adams, and her transition to a solo show (27:22). Lastly, they discuss Adams’ experience at Jets Training Camp and her expectations of the team during the 2023-24 season (33:47).
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome into another episode of The New Yorker. I'm your host,
Caroline Hendershot. We're live from the Audi Performance Studio. This year,
the New York Her podcast is presented by Nike. But
we have our first guest this season. Kay Adams is
in the building. So excited. Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm the season premiere. You are I would have dressed
up for taking a shower after my ten hours of
training caps outside.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Gorgeous. It is, it is, and it helps me look better,
which is all I can ever ask for.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So we're not having we look beautiful all of the time,
and we are so excited to have this chat.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I know you were just outside at training camp all day.
Don't smell me, no, you you would never guess she's beautiful.
She's amazing. First of all, I'll get we'll get into
it deeper later. But how was it initial feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I've been here before, yes, and the vibes we're not
like this, of course, always some confidence, always there's optimism
around all thirty two teams. Course in Jel into August,
into the preseason, into the season. But this is just celebratory, vibrant.
If I'm going to be totally honest. It's not what
I expect from this group of fans or this You know,
(01:15):
there's a lot of you know, PTSD kind of things
that have gone on and things that have gone wrong,
but that doesn't exist. It really feels like the past
is in the past. There's a lot of gratitude, which
I think is being set forward by your QB one
and your coach put together, and it just seems like
the vibes are the highest. Something that I'm not seeing
is pressure, right, No one's talking about that. I think
(01:36):
that's very interesting. I think with the Rams Super Team
from a couple of years ago, when these moves are
being made to build these squads with this thirty five
million dollar cloud hovering, like, what are we going to
do with this money to ensure that we get there?
For some reason, the brilliance that I've seen so far
is the lack of a true pressure or chip on
the shoulder. It's just sort of celebratory going into a
(02:01):
season that feels like Jets fans have earned it, right,
We've waited and we're here.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It does feel like a fresh page, yeah, kind of
been turned in the book and people are excited for it.
You can definitely tell at training camp as we've experienced
the last week and a half whatever it's been. It's
a time warp, truly, but people are chanting players' names
wherever you go non stop to start practice. And that's
like as someone who wishes they were still an athlete, rejuvenating,
(02:31):
Like it fires me up, and all I'm doing is
talking into a microphone all day. They're getting to actually play,
so it's exciting and I think, yeah, you got to
feel a little bit of it today, which is yeast.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And then the games will be played and even when
there's maybe some adversity and some challenges. I hope these
Jets fans, Mama Kay is telling you stay on the
optimistic side, stay on the positive, celebratory, empowering side, and
stick with your team.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yes, be nice, be nice. Okay. I want to get
into you and your whole entire career because you born
and raised in Chicago, correct, But then you went to Miszoo.
What kind of led to that start of the journey.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I didn't take high school seriously enough that probably my answer.
I believe I had a scholarship. I was financially strapped,
if you will, So I went where I could get
in state tuition if I lived there for the summer.
I sort of worked it out with the finances of it.
It made sense to go because they had a brilliant
broadcast journalism school, which I dropped out of.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So but you know, going in that you want, I
knew that.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I wanted to be on TV. I knew I found
it really easy to be in front of a camera,
and that I wanted some sort of path to interviewing
people because I was naturally curious. I never found being
on TV in front of a camera, hosting, juggling things
on camera, not in real life Hamilton, not juggling things
in real life my producers in the room, But in
(03:56):
a space like this, I just feel really comfortable and
I really like pulling people's stories out of them. So
it's sort of a natural fit to want to go
into that. And so Miszoo, you know, my energy was
get me in front of the camera. I already knew
what I want to do, so you know, it was
hard to get me to focus on, you know, history
or something that I love history. I just knew what
I wanted, So I was focused really on how can
(04:18):
I get an internship? And then how can I pay
for that non paying internship with working a bar shift
and a bar ship that actually helped me with my
goal of talking about football or whatever. It was comfortably
in front of an audience of twelve or eight drunk
patrons at a time.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yes, So when you were in the thick of it, Yeah,
dropped out of the program.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Why Because I knew that I didn't want to do
serious not serious. I didn't want to do news. I
wanted to do more entertainment. At the time, I wanted
to tell stories. But this was before there was this
everyone could just do what they want, pick up a microphone,
get on Instagram. This was you know, that was the path.
(04:57):
It was the news path. You're going to start and
you know a town a fourth of the size of
Little Rock and hope that in ten years you end
up in Little Rock?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And I was just like, I isn't there another way?
And then there was actually someone who asked me, after
seeing some work that I had done, why don't I
just move to New York and be a VJ on MTV?
And I said, can I do? That? Sounds like exactly
what I want to do. So is at that point
that I was realizing what was seen as sort of
criticism towards the way I carry myself on camera authentically
(05:28):
and breaking down the fourth wall as I go. It
wasn't accepted as much as it is now, which I
love to see, and I fit right into that world.
So I just thought, I mean, maybe this isn't the
right exact path for me.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Was it scary straying away from the stereotypical path?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It wasn't, because I really do that. You know, I
have this thing now where you know, you get to
a certain place in your life and you want to optimize,
you want to reach as much self actualization as possible.
How can I be better at every part of my life?
And you know, outside of work, you know, I struggle
with insecurity. I struggle with all the things that everyone
(06:06):
struggles with. For some reason, when it comes to being
on camera, I just don't have that. I have the confidence.
I know what it is. It comes to me naturally.
I like being backed into a corner. I embrace when
things go wrong on camera, even if I'm mad about
it after. So that's just always been something that's been
sort of driving me. So I never had there was
(06:28):
never another option. There was never a plan base. I
think I would have embraced a plan B. And maybe
that lies in the future for me. I don't know.
But now everybody's road is sort of open, which is beautiful,
especially when it comes to the media space, right.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It is nice to have kind of really your path
layout the way that you want it to. You have
more control over that aspect.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
There's more of an option of that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, so you were bartending and that was helping you.
But what was the first real job where you were like, Oh,
this is it sports, I'm in it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah. I was doing local radio shifts like twelve to
six for seven dollars an hour, whatever I can get
in Columbia, Missouri. And then I got a job at SiriusXM.
They were launching a fantasy sports channel, and they said
do you play fantasy baseball? And I was like, m
M no, no, in fact not, what's an ear? I
got it, I'll figure it out, sure, no idea. So
(07:18):
I wasn't ever a huge baseball fan. I grew up
with the Cubs like hello, Like I wasn't exactly like
I was scoring the games out in the bleacher seeds.
I was, you know, using a fake id to buy
old style beer. Sorry, Okay, So I was trying to
to sort of you know, take I just said yes.
I just said yes to everything, and I said I'll
just figure it out. And I don't know if that's
good advice or not, but it certainly helped me and
(07:39):
get confidence, like I'll figure it out. It's a great
it's a great thing to look in the mirror and
tell you tell yourself. And I think I've been running
this program of survival mode really my entire life, in
my career and all of that. Football was not something
that we watched growing up in my house a little
bit like we loved a Devin Hester or Matt Forte.
But but you know, my parents were immigrants. It wasn't
like they were season ticket hold I've never gone to
(08:01):
a Bears game. I went to one the opening season
packers like a couple of years ago, because NFL Network
got me tickets. I had never you know, i'd never
had that opportunity. And now I'm on a tangent and
now you're the host and you have to reel me in.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
No, that's fine, you're fine. I kind of liked hearing
that whole story.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, I just I gravitated towards sports and it pulled
me in, it really did. I a patron at my
bar was taking a job with Serious XM and said,
I really think, like you know your stuff, why don't
you come and do like this smaller role like news hits.
And I said, okay, great, And then it was talking
(08:41):
fantasy baseball, doing the research. You know, I somehow called
that Jose Batista was going to hit those forty dingers
out of nowhere, and he did, and I got confident
about it, and I was like, this is amazing, total
hapless call by me. But it ended up working out
when he was with the Blue Jays years and years
and years ago. And then you know, the Cardinals sort
of embraced me, but they, you know, they didn't come
find me. I went and knocked on Oh my gosh,
(09:02):
Channel five KSDK and Saint Louis I went to me.
I said, Metro Mix, like, I'll let me go tell
you like the three hottest bars that are just opened
for Saint Patrick's Day. I would do. I would make packages.
I didn't you know. I tried doing whatever I could
to just get on screen time. And then so from
Serious I went to the Saint Louis Cardinals, and that
year of twenty eleven, they won their championship, and that
(09:23):
was when I sort of got really pulled into the Rams.
Hired me to do some work for them in game,
and then NBC heard me on Sirius and it came
and plucked me out of Saint Louis into the big
leagues of NBC Sports.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
When you were graduating, did you have that Cardinal's job
lined up already?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh no, this is like two years. Okay, Oh I'm bartending.
I'm managing a pizza shop in Saint Louis. I'm driving back.
I was living in Saint Louis too, Columbia on weekends,
spending money to work and get my just get my shift,
get my like itch of how can I get better
this next break? And you know you're doing radio hits.
It's twice an hour, so you have two shots about
(10:01):
twenty seconds apiece to say that Maroon vibes new hits
coming up next are like honky tonk, padonka, don call
play next, ridiculous. But I just really, gosh, man, I
should think about those days more. I really cared. I
was perfectionist. I wanted it to be great and different
and stand out. And I really had a passion for
(10:21):
being on the air more so than anything else. But
I did not have I'm telling you. It just sort
of pulled me in, it really did. I wanted to
do like Juliana Ransick vibes. Yeah, I wanted Kat Sadler,
I wanted e news. I wanted to read a carpet
like getting celebrity stories. But truly, and I've had my
shot at that a lot, and it's fun, but NFL
(10:42):
is there's nothing like it. There's nothing more compelling more.
Every game matters so much, so much. And I've done
the baseball thing and I love that too, but and
it's a whole different vibe. But like just the emotions,
the rawness of it, and like these players pulling little
bits out of them to human them when people don't
do that. It has been such a win for me, right, And.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's it's so it's it's harder because there's less games
right than a baseball season or a hockey season. So
it feels like, oh, it should feel lighter and like
that there's less of it. It feels NonStop from the
moment the season starts to the moment it ends, it's busy,
and then even the off season, there's always something next.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
There's no off season, no free.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Agency, there's the draft, there's like it just NonStop, NonStop.
But that's why it almost keeps pulling you back in.
There's always something, and there's it's always top of mind.
It's keeping you kind of enthralled.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I mean, look where you are. You're no better of
the NFL, you.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Know, I know, I know I really am right now.
But for when you got the Cardinals job, did that
heighten the level of pressure that you put on yourself
at all? Because you were already working so hard, nose
to the grindstone. But then now it's like a step up,
a little bit of an elevated platform. Is it scary?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Not at all? I don't know how else to answer that.
Not at all. But I think I put pressure on
myself to survive. Okay, So it was about how am
I going to make money doing this? How do you
make money? When you work a Cardinal game? You have
to be there two hours before it starts, and it
could go if there's a rain to lay goodbye, right, so,
and you're making seventy dollars for the day. So then
(12:22):
you have to supplement that somehow and figure that out,
and then you have the loans. It was very stressful.
That entire time was pretty pressured from that standpoint. And
then you want to make it. You want to you know,
I wanted to go straight to If I had the money,
I would have gone straight to New York. And I
would have and I did. And when I moved to
New York, I was sleeping on couches for a very
long time, and then I was I was knocking on doors.
(12:45):
I can't even explain, like literally knocking on doors. Then
with some people in these big positions who years later,
once Good Morning Football started, came back and were like
I just wanted to meet you. And I'm like, I've
tried to have a meeting with you for two years.
And that's really rewarding, right where you're like, I did it.
I try, I tried, and I tried and tried and
try it, and you know, there's a lot of no's,
(13:05):
but there's just a lot of nobody's. Nobody like you
can't have to do it yourself, right. And now I
really encourage everybody and everybody out there who wants to
be in media, just do it yourself, find a way
be authentic and either knock on the doors, but also
you can go and make a package, shoot a thing,
do whatever, and give your opinion yes, and feel good
(13:26):
about that. Well.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's it's such a good mantra of like do it yourself,
because my mom always used to say growing up, if
you don't advocate for yourself, no one else is going
to like, I don't know this person from anyone, So
why am I going to vouch for them? Versus like,
you know yourself so well, you know what you are,
you know what you're made of all of that, So
(13:49):
go and prove that to people. Yeah, and tell people
about that.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I will say a cautionary thing on that, just as
I'm hearing it sounds like I'm talking. But you do
it at some point, at some point need to not you,
but just relent a little bit and just definitely. But
it's very hard. It's very hard to if you find
a trustee producer, if you find someone that's got you
(14:13):
and gets you, you have to hold onto that person
or you know, just even an agent relationship or anybody
who deals with your business. It's a little you know,
you'll do it yourself. You're better than anybody, but that
gets you can't do it all. Yeah, you can't do
it all, so trying is you know, once you get
to a certain place, it gets a little sticky.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Do you feel like you had to learn that lesson
a hard way?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think I'm still a great question. That was a
good one. Thank you. She's a star everybody. I don't
know if it was a hard way. I think I
don't think I've learned it. I think I'm still learning it.
I'm still micromanaging like everything.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Well, it's like giving up the control and trusting that
someone will advocate for you as well as you advocate
for yourself, and like really trust it. That right, It's hard.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It takes a lot, Yeah, it takes a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So to get to Good Morning Football, the path was
from NBC Sports.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah. I was doing NBC Sports, just trying to get
on air anytime I could, and the inventory was limited,
and you know, they wouldn't put me on Olympics and
I would love to do that because I love telling stories.
But you know, there's there's lanes at NBC Sports, and
if you know, you have to sort of fit the lane,
and I was trying to do fantasy stuff for them,
which I did. And I had one of my favorite
(15:29):
producers ever, Matt Casey, who and forever indebted to for
making me better. You know, would some hot time pop
me on with my florio on on a show that
they had up there, Pro Football Talk, and I got
to meet, you know, Brian Westbrook and football players, and
I was so excited and it was so fun. And
I'd get to be onto on television like like like
national television. In my I was like, this is great. Uh.
(15:50):
And I had met a producer who was trying to
get the NFL to relent and give him rain of
the morning show what it should look like, chain the
vibe a little bit, and he just liked me for
that spot to sort of launch this show that was
going to be three hours a day. And he knew
that I was hardworking, and he knew that I would
(16:11):
do it in a heartbeat, and he knew that I
had a similar energy about the NFL as he wanted
to install, which is less tear down and more build up,
less condemn and criticize, more celebrate, more human eye and
more embrace. And that's what really when I started that show,
(16:32):
that's what led me was have this energy about it,
and I think it really is what stuck out for
the show.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Do you feel like you've always been that way about
everything and that just kind of came out naturally, or
that like flip that the NFL was trying or not
even necessarily the NFL, but this network was trying to
come across.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
No. I think it's just like hot. It's so easy
to hot take right, so easy to do the g
It's just never been Why would I like, what if
I went out there and like I said something about that,
there is anything I need to say, but I would
never want you know.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The sweetest human ever.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I think people don't see and see athletes or celebrities
as humans. And that sounds like a very trite thing
to say, and everybody knows that, but there really is
a lot these players go through, and they've gone through
since they were about five years old. Yes, and it's
not you know, and and so I've always always tried
to see that and always tried to point out perspective.
(17:25):
I also just you know, I'm not saying I'm like
Pollyanna cheerleader for everyone. That's definitely not true. I've had
my takes over the years, but I like to root
things in effect, like logic, And let me show you
this full screen of these two first months of Joe
Burrow and how slow he was to start and why
I think this injury might be bad. But I love
(17:47):
Joe Burrow, but you can't argue that. You can't. I'm
not saying he's the worst. They're going to miss the playoffs.
So I think the hot takiness thing was just never
a part of how I want. I knew I didn't
want to do business that way.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Well, it's also I feel like so important too, and
I I hate kind of bringing up this as a woman,
but it's important too as a woman on air in
sports to be rooted in fact, because there's always someone
in the comments.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Don't you dare get a decimal wrong that's like nope, no, no,
no no. If you mess up the yards for carries
by a tenth of the yard, whoo, I don't know anything.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And so you have to kind of be on your stuff,
have it be rooted in fact, because if it's not it,
it almost doesn't come across with as serious intention as
it would if someone else said it, which yeah, who
knows why, but it makes me.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It makes me a little sad to hear that that's
the sentiment that's still you know, because when I I
feel like it's better now than it was, but it's not.
It's not good enough, right, and so it's it's tough.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I have the take of it might not be where
I want it to be. That's fine. I have a
lot of high standards, so maybe it will never be
exactly where I want it to be. But I know
that you can't tell me no or like stop doing this,
or you're not good enough for this job whatever, because
(19:11):
I've been screamed at by coaches before of being like,
oh you got that drill wrong, go run another sprint
like I've been. I've gone down that road before. It
doesn't really phase me what I love everyone to love
me share. I'm a people pleaser at my heart, but like,
at the end of the day, you like what I
say or I don't. That's okay, Yeah it's not.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It's definitely not. There's a fairness that isn't doesn't exist.
But once you sort of you have to sort of
compose a little.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Bit exactly, you just put it in a box and it's.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Then you're like, I should say something about this, and
that's how why it's so complicated.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So I want to get back to Good Morning Football,
your stint there how much of.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
A I sent there? I was there for.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Six years, six years stint? But how much was that?
Like A did you almost sigh a little bit of
a relief for finally like getting it on air and
getting to do it your way and kind of this
this show that you were really excited to be.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I'm really into I'm drawn towards maybe chaos, but
building things. I'm drawn towards the we got them to
agree to it. Now we have a month to find
co hosts, and now we have a Now we're doing this,
and we have to get you out of your contract,
and we have to do it. I'm like, woo what
But I love like I thrive in that. And then
of course people are like, you're getting rid of this
(20:29):
whatever existed before it. And that's a tough transition too,
because do people who immediately you know, loved that show,
and that's a hard thing to not lose that core
audience that wants more of the nitty gritty x's and
o's and all that talk. And then you have these
four you know me, Kyle, Peter and Nate just being
like la hola, we love everything, and so it was
(20:49):
a bit of it. It was a bit of a shift.
But to get that, I mean we I honestly feel
like we decided to do the show on a Monday night,
and Tuesday night we started the show and like if
you I mean, I had not slept in three We
were up at two in the morning to start this couple.
It was just unbelievable and then slowly the best thing
about a daily show is that you're done and you're
(21:09):
just like, Okay, well, even if that was terrible, like
look ahead.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Ye, like you got to go again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And I think that part if I'm going to talk
about more about like you know, being an adult and
wanting to be better on and off like that, I
think that does is key in how people should strive
to think about their life, in moving forward and knowing that, Okay,
that happened and I'm going to learn from it, and
like we're going to fix that full screen for tomorrow,
(21:35):
like in trying to move on addressing it and I
have to get it off my chest. But like in
you know, sometimes if left to my own devices, I
will belabor something, I will live in the past. I
will just in my own Like if I had a
weekly show, I think I would think about it NonStop
until the next show. So being able to have that, well,
we just did three hours, We got three hours tomorrow, like, Okay,
(21:55):
this was bad, this was bad. We love this, we
love this. Now what's tomorrow? Like, that's a really beautiful thing. Really,
there's a lot of beauty and staying present like that
that exists when you do a show like that, and it's.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
A skill to be able to drop it and not
carry it over to the next day, because some people
don't have that ability to be like, Okay, we love this,
we love this, let's we didn't like this. Let's move
on to the next show instead of just thinking about
it or harboring it or whatever. But when you do
get that opportunity every day, it is helps it makes
(22:25):
it easier.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, it was, but it was a fun thing to launch,
and it was we had no idea what was going on,
you know, we were just trying different The amount of
segments we did that were just ridiculous but so fun.
And then to have guests like I'll never forget when
you know, Sam Darnold came in to launch was it
their new helmets, their new jerseys, and like we had
players in the studio that came to see us think
(22:48):
it was just very very cool. And then to have
the teams support you. The team support made it the coolest.
Fans amazing also. But to have like a Jets or
any of the other third you want to say, come
to our building or thank you or retweet or we're
going to use content that you made in our world,
and it just sort of snowballed into this beautiful, beautiful
(23:10):
celebration of the al.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's almost rewarding because it's like, Okay, we're doing something
right that people enjoy it enough to take it to
the organizational level where it's like, Okay, they want to
retweet it or host us or whatever have you.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, or players just knowing you because they're on in
the building right. Wait, why do you like what? Julio Jones?
You know who I am? Huh?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
With the chaos that was just launching a new show,
was it also chaotic in the sense that there's four
of you, all very big personalities. Was that hard to
manage as a host at times?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I think everyone sort of found their lane and we
got into almost i would say, at times too much
of a rhythm, okay, where it got like, all right,
this is this, you'll take it. You'll take it, you'll
take it. We're good and you know, sometimes you like
the switching it up or whatever. So I think I
think there after a couple of seasons, became a little
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comfortable nature with the pandemic, you know, got us right
out of that, and we had to adjust to that
really really quickly. You know, we changed studios, we changed
showrunners a bunch, so there was always something new going on,
which sort of kept us on our toes. And I'll
say the thing about Good Morning Football and all of
the hosts is that everyone just wanted to make it
better right every show and by whatever definition that was
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to that specific host, but it was there was never
really a moment of complacency, and like Kyle and Peter
really drove that agenda of like improvement and what we
can do and how do we do this differently the
next day? And so a lot of the rise of
that is that sort of the ability to have that
relentlessness was really key in our show.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Do you have a favorite moment that stands out from
your six years there.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Oh my god, I.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Know there's probably so many.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm going to say, not the first show that was crazy,
not the first year. How often can you think of
one a favorite moment? I think all of our live
shows are the best.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So we'd get out of the studio and we would
go get to go to super Bowl or Draft or whatever,
and there's like costume changes and madness. I'm like, I
don't want to do any of it. I'm like, oh God,
here we go again. And I just was just like
a total curmudgeon. But you kind of have to give
into the energy of the moment, and so any of
us like on Miami Beach and my Heels in the
(25:31):
Sand with DK Metcalf, those are probably one of my
favorite moments. And Peter's being absurd and Peter, who also
came from like a reporter standpoint when you started the show.
To watch him sort of let the layers come off
and show his personality more was such a joy to
have him like in a tank in a tank top
drinking you who with DK Metcalf, Like you don't see
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that with other without the reporters and stuff. So that's
it's all, it's it's what a blessing but a super whirlwind. Two.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So then you end your career with Good Morning Football
and you moved to your own show up.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And I wouldn't say that was the plan. It wasn't
quite like I'm going to go do this, but I
just felt like I was in such a good place
with Good Morning Football. I was there maybe a year
longer than I would have liked to be, just because
I felt really like I had done good work there.
And then we did we both agreed to an option
that we had and they said, Okay, let's do this
(26:26):
one more year. But I knew kind of doing that
that that would be my last year. Okay, but I
just didn't say anything just because I just didn't want
to do that until right at the end. It was
sort of abrupt, but that's just kind of how that's
how I'm doing. But it was beautiful. I just really
felt like I felt like it was I felt like
it was the perfect time for me to leave.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Did you just feel like not that it was getting
easy by any like, by any stance, but that it
might have just been you were getting comfortable doing what
and you love to be uncomfortable from yeah, you've told me.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I don't know if I felt that. I think if
I could go back, I would say I could do
much better work. Okay, like I could do I could
have done better at my job. There's a lot of
things that I think about with that, but I'm trying
don't try not to sort of belabor them. I think
it was just time. It was just time, and I
have not thought differently.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Good. That's good. Well, now you have your own show
of an Atoms, which is so exciting. How is that
transition going from four people around a table every morning
for three hours, because then going to your own show
where you are alone for most of the part and
then you have guests on.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
But I think I'm with guests most of the time
that I'm alone for some parts, and that's how I'd
like it to stay. So FanDuel has been such a
cool partner. Just do whatever you want, anything but the
freedom to create whatever hour you want to do. And
I know that I love interviewing. I love talking to
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people like I'm sure you do. You want stories, you
want to provide content, motivation, whatever it is, encouragement for people.
And I've been blessed to make because of Good Morning Football,
some really nice connections, some really nice relationships with people
who are willing to come on. It's like the biggest
compliment you can play somebody, I'll come on and talk
to you. It's a beautiful thing and something that I
(28:14):
didn't feel like I got to do as much on
Good Morning Football is one on one interviews. I got
to do them for Game Day Morning, which is so fun,
and I would I want to do that now, But
there's a hang up. I wish, I wish I might
be back at some point. I love doing that job.
But it's those sit down interviews, those one on ones
where you can ask a couple questions, not one question
(28:34):
somebody else ask. Well, it's just I really enjoy that experience.
So I thought, well, let me make a show and
see if people will come on and talk to me.
And we've sort of grown from there. So now it's
you know, we have we have some guests that will
be joining us weekly this year, which will be super fun.
We had Gronk last year. He'll be back this year.
Every Wednesday will have with Gronk. I'm just going to
say that right now. We're hearing it first, the whole
(28:56):
show will have them. He'll be on so that'll be
super fun. And I think just getting those interviews giving
you know, when I started it, I said, I just
want to give good information. I want to be on
the right side of it, meaning I want to maintain
credibility and integrity, but also have fun. And I really
just want to create moments. And I feel like we've
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in a very short amount of time been successful with that.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Do you feel like this show is more yourself? Not
that you've ever had to compromise being yourself on air,
but just because you really built it and you had
those pillars going into it.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Oh, man, I think a little more. But I try
to make it about the person coming on the show
because I'm a little guarded and I'm not super revelatory.
So I think, you know, there's a lot of talk
I'll do a podcast, I'm like, what am I going
to talk? I don't I will not speak about anything.
I'm a you know, I'm a vault, but I will
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say I don't know. Pamil Saniy said, I've been more
vulnerable on this show, right, I like open up a
little bit more. I think you sort of have to
if it's just you and the camera, right, But I
have a great team, so it's not just me in
the camera. It is truly a small, mean lean. We're
adding more people. We're so blessed to be adding in
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this time when everything's going on in this space. I'm
so grateful and so I'm not alone. I like pulling
people on the air to all my staff, which they
have to get more comfortable with. But it great.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Do you find that it's kind of I don't know
how to phrase this one. Do you find that you
are guarded because you want to keep part of that aspect?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Like, go ahead, ask me again.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Do you feel like you're guarded because so much of
yourself is on air and you do have to be
so open about yourself because like.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Think about Good Morning Football, Caroline, I never said anything
about myself really, Like what do people really learn? Like
what I did eat? Like what I mean? What? Like
you know that I'm a bad driver. I don't really
share the intimate vulnerable thoughts Caroline, I never had because
I think I just think it's not interesting. We're here
to talk about I don't know, it's not interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Like to know, Caroline, you want to talk about the sports,
I'll tell.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You whatever you want to know.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
What is the hardest not necessarily interview, but just moment
you faced in your career.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Hardest moment in my career.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Oh man, we're getting the deep the deep thoughts.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
The hardest moment is oh man, it's a great question.
Just trying to get to where I want to go
right now, which is there's so much innovation going on
and so much is changing all at our fingertips right now.
(31:54):
So to get sort of the eyeballs, to get the
to get the more exposure so people see my show.
That's my big that's my greatest thing that I'm putting
out great content right now and I want everyone to
see it. Right I think this is the I'm in
it right now.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Okay, well then that's great because you're crushing what you're
doing right now. So if that's the if that's the hardest, get.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
There no other personal questions. I don't do the soff
of Carrolin. You're a great interview.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Oh my god, you're so sweet. Well, I would I
would also ask that what do you think is maybe
something that you have been holding back from?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Oh oh my god, that makes you like a little
mirry happening. What am I holding back from I don't know,
you know what I'm I don't ask for what I need.
I would say, I think I'm not as I'm not
very vulnerable and if I have a need, uh not
just for my show? Hello, Hello, this is doctor Caroline.
(32:57):
I wish I had a better answer for you.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
No, I think I think that's fair. Do you think
that it not inhibits your career at times? But it
makes work harder for you because you don't feel like
you can ask for what you need.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I think it goes back to your point of I
need to enable other people to help me. Yeah, and
that's and that will get me far. And that's always
been sort of tough, and I'm a toughie. I need
to be less of a toughie and be more vulnerable.
And that's okay.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
You grew that thick New York skin for six years
on Good Morning Football.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I did. It's hard, I certainly did.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
All right, Well that's hard, okay. Well I want to
go back to you at practice today because you got
to witness the Jets in training camp and really feel
the vibe that they are curating and cultivating. What do
you expect out of them? This season. I know, I
know it's the season of hope. We're in early August.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
At this point, he's thirty nine. I know he looks
better than ever, better than ever. I just talked to him.
He's very happy. He's happier than he looks that. I
believe that, and that's going to matter. There might be
some downs in the season, like they're always. I think
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that's what your hacket is for. I'm going to think
of like the challenges, what could stop them? Health of course,
but that's your O line, right, So is Elijah Raa Tucker?
That guy? Is Makhai Beckton going to play this year?
We haven't seen him in a while. He's two missed
a combined twenty seven games since being on the team.
They need to be out there. We're hearing some positive
things about the O line. I want to see that.
(34:35):
I don't think, you know, the chemistry is the only
thing that's going to really hold them back, right that
the fact that you know, Aaron maybe you know, although
these Hall of Fame games, it's beautiful to have the
extra practices, the time together, are they using it appropriately?
It looks like it No one's feeling the weight of
the world your defense was number three last year and
(34:56):
I had Quinn and Williams today. Tell me our defuds
was good? Less you and I go, you were top five?
What are you talking about? And he said, if you're
not one your last I said, just love quitting. I
just love it. And you've got guys like him, and
you've got, you know, guys who have something to prove,
like a CJ. Moseley, and you've got, you know, on offense,
you've got your breist Hall, who's a star, and he's
(35:17):
going to be extra motivating because he doesn't want to
hear this Dalvin talk. He doesn't want to hear these
fans turping his name. He's the star who went down
and has something to prove. So there's a lot of
that going on. What's going to hold them back? The
AFC East, the AFC A couple of missed games and
that gauntlet of a schedule you guys have been handed
to start out the gate. Those will all matter when
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the AFC needs to figure itself out itself out. I mean,
you look at Brady, I said, as to Gronk, you
look at Brady. Brady was in the NFC South and
he went to the Super Bowl and he won it.
And I know for a fact Aaron looks at the
ends of the twilights of Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers
and Tom Brady's career. But you know Tom had an
easier path. Tom had a lot going for him. He
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could lose all those games in the beginning of the year.
He won like eight straight to get there. But it's
you can't do that in this division. But then but
then maybe they can. Maybe they can do you feel
like they better.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
It'd be so much it would be really fun for
I'm selfishly of course me as well.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's gonna be It'll be fun either way. But we
of course want them to do well. This organization deserves it.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I mean with the fans particularly, I feel like they
don't even know how to handle themselves right now because
they are just so over the moon in the sense
of they've never seen what this team has to offer
right now.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
They never they're not used to this, right. But you
can take that two ways. As a human you say, wow,
this is amazing, I'm gonna look, I'm gonna go with
this like great, or you can say, hold on what
this this can't happen. But I'm not really seeing that
vibe from the fan base. The fan base is really
embracing it. I will say. The rest of the AFC
does not like what is being of course does not
(36:57):
like this, of course just winning the off season talk.
Like the coach out in Denver who shall not be
named here, he he's not the only one that feels
that way about Oh the hard knocks and everyone's just
crowding them as that they got thirty five million day.
Nobody likes it. So that's a little it's a it's
a target on the back.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
It's a little of that, yep. Where I'm sure that
they the Jets are all aware of that, and coach
sala is aware of it. But he even spoken a
presser this week saying the pressure isn't on us to perform.
The pressure is more so on the fact that if
we don't go out there and give our best and
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like what we are fully capable of, then it's a
problem because it's not all these grand expectations that everyone
else is putting on them. It's their expectations of themselves,
and they have high expectations. Likequinin Williams said, he's sala
Is the coolest, He's great guy. Ever, he's great And.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
We talked a little bit today about just what these
first two years meant and being able to handle what's
upon him right now, and he talked about what advantage
that is. I mean, can you imagine if this was
his first year, even his second year, like those two
years really led to everything he's doing right now. It's
a beautiful, beautiful thing. And he's just a beautiful man.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, he's a great coach and he loves his players
so much, and you can see that day in and
day out. Do you feel like with the experience that
Salah has, with the experience that Aaron Rodgers brings, with
a sauce gardener, with a Garrett Wilson, the young core,
that it's almost the recipe for success whatever you define success.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
As he's there, I think these young cats are rejuvenating him.
He just told me, I'm like, I'm like a kid
on the first day of school at a new school.
Because he's playing by the rules. It's very you know,
like you can see, it's very different than things that
we've heard or seen or thought we heard or saw
about him where he was previously for so many years
and it might have just gotten like you know that
(38:56):
stuff just adds on year to year, even small resentment,
small things, boredom sets in all of that. He's just
living his best life. He is truly eating it up
with a spoon like a jar of Natella and me
in the middle of the night. He's living his actual
best life right now. And I think as long as
he has the people around him, like Asala, who seems
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to be on the very same wavelength as Aaron, as
far as football and humanity are concerned. And you have
his boy hacket, and you've got Randall, and you've got
you've got this buy you have this buy in from
Aaron to help and you have this buying from him
to to team play this one hundred percent. And he's
helping the defense out there. He's telling Sauce what he's
seeing like is it is a beautiful recipe. But that
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doesn't usually work in the NFL. I know, I will
say for to be storybook, I'm not don't don't cut
my mic I have no warnings. I haven't enjoyed the ride.
Message for this Jets fan base, enjoy it. Just truly
be in the present moment and enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Kay Adams, you are the best.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Oh my gosh, you're you're the therap Oh goody time.
Do I have to Vendmo you?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah you can, Venmo me, I take, I take, Venmo Worzel,
whichever one.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Congratulations on your success.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I want your story at some point. Please come on
my show. Okay, thank you, Thank you, And.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
For all of you tuning in to New York Her
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Thank you so much. I'm Caroline Hendershot and we'll see
you on the next episode.
Welcome into another episode of The New Yorker. I'm your host,
Caroline Hendershot. We're live from the Audi Performance Studio. This year,
the New York Her podcast is presented by Nike. But
we have our first guest this season. Kay Adams is
in the building. So excited. Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm the season premiere. You are I would have dressed
up for taking a shower after my ten hours of
training caps outside.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Gorgeous. It is, it is, and it helps me look better,
which is all I can ever ask for.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So we're not having we look beautiful all of the time,
and we are so excited to have this chat.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I know you were just outside at training camp all day.
Don't smell me, no, you you would never guess she's beautiful.
She's amazing. First of all, I'll get we'll get into
it deeper later. But how was it initial feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I've been here before, yes, and the vibes we're not
like this, of course, always some confidence, always there's optimism
around all thirty two teams. Course in Jel into August,
into the preseason, into the season. But this is just celebratory, vibrant.
If I'm going to be totally honest. It's not what
I expect from this group of fans or this You know,
(01:15):
there's a lot of you know, PTSD kind of things
that have gone on and things that have gone wrong,
but that doesn't exist. It really feels like the past
is in the past. There's a lot of gratitude, which
I think is being set forward by your QB one
and your coach put together, and it just seems like
the vibes are the highest. Something that I'm not seeing
is pressure, right, No one's talking about that. I think
(01:36):
that's very interesting. I think with the Rams Super Team
from a couple of years ago, when these moves are
being made to build these squads with this thirty five
million dollar cloud hovering, like, what are we going to
do with this money to ensure that we get there?
For some reason, the brilliance that I've seen so far
is the lack of a true pressure or chip on
the shoulder. It's just sort of celebratory going into a
(02:01):
season that feels like Jets fans have earned it, right,
We've waited and we're here.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It does feel like a fresh page, yeah, kind of
been turned in the book and people are excited for it.
You can definitely tell at training camp as we've experienced
the last week and a half whatever it's been. It's
a time warp, truly, but people are chanting players' names
wherever you go non stop to start practice. And that's
like as someone who wishes they were still an athlete, rejuvenating,
(02:31):
Like it fires me up, and all I'm doing is
talking into a microphone all day. They're getting to actually play,
so it's exciting and I think, yeah, you got to
feel a little bit of it today, which is yeast.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And then the games will be played and even when
there's maybe some adversity and some challenges. I hope these
Jets fans, Mama Kay is telling you stay on the
optimistic side, stay on the positive, celebratory, empowering side, and
stick with your team.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yes, be nice, be nice. Okay. I want to get
into you and your whole entire career because you born
and raised in Chicago, correct, But then you went to Miszoo.
What kind of led to that start of the journey.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I didn't take high school seriously enough that probably my answer.
I believe I had a scholarship. I was financially strapped,
if you will, So I went where I could get
in state tuition if I lived there for the summer.
I sort of worked it out with the finances of it.
It made sense to go because they had a brilliant
broadcast journalism school, which I dropped out of.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So but you know, going in that you want, I
knew that.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I wanted to be on TV. I knew I found
it really easy to be in front of a camera,
and that I wanted some sort of path to interviewing
people because I was naturally curious. I never found being
on TV in front of a camera, hosting, juggling things
on camera, not in real life Hamilton, not juggling things
in real life my producers in the room, But in
(03:56):
a space like this, I just feel really comfortable and
I really like pulling people's stories out of them. So
it's sort of a natural fit to want to go
into that. And so Miszoo, you know, my energy was
get me in front of the camera. I already knew
what I want to do, so you know, it was
hard to get me to focus on, you know, history
or something that I love history. I just knew what
I wanted, So I was focused really on how can
(04:18):
I get an internship? And then how can I pay
for that non paying internship with working a bar shift
and a bar ship that actually helped me with my
goal of talking about football or whatever. It was comfortably
in front of an audience of twelve or eight drunk
patrons at a time.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yes, So when you were in the thick of it, Yeah,
dropped out of the program.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Why Because I knew that I didn't want to do
serious not serious. I didn't want to do news. I
wanted to do more entertainment. At the time, I wanted
to tell stories. But this was before there was this
everyone could just do what they want, pick up a microphone,
get on Instagram. This was you know, that was the path.
(04:57):
It was the news path. You're going to start and
you know a town a fourth of the size of
Little Rock and hope that in ten years you end
up in Little Rock?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And I was just like, I isn't there another way?
And then there was actually someone who asked me, after
seeing some work that I had done, why don't I
just move to New York and be a VJ on MTV?
And I said, can I do? That? Sounds like exactly
what I want to do. So is at that point
that I was realizing what was seen as sort of
criticism towards the way I carry myself on camera authentically
(05:28):
and breaking down the fourth wall as I go. It
wasn't accepted as much as it is now, which I
love to see, and I fit right into that world.
So I just thought, I mean, maybe this isn't the
right exact path for me.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Was it scary straying away from the stereotypical path?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It wasn't, because I really do that. You know, I
have this thing now where you know, you get to
a certain place in your life and you want to optimize,
you want to reach as much self actualization as possible.
How can I be better at every part of my life?
And you know, outside of work, you know, I struggle
with insecurity. I struggle with all the things that everyone
(06:06):
struggles with. For some reason, when it comes to being
on camera, I just don't have that. I have the confidence.
I know what it is. It comes to me naturally.
I like being backed into a corner. I embrace when
things go wrong on camera, even if I'm mad about
it after. So that's just always been something that's been
sort of driving me. So I never had there was
(06:28):
never another option. There was never a plan base. I
think I would have embraced a plan B. And maybe
that lies in the future for me. I don't know.
But now everybody's road is sort of open, which is beautiful,
especially when it comes to the media space, right.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It is nice to have kind of really your path
layout the way that you want it to. You have
more control over that aspect.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
There's more of an option of that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, so you were bartending and that was helping you.
But what was the first real job where you were like, Oh,
this is it sports, I'm in it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah. I was doing local radio shifts like twelve to
six for seven dollars an hour, whatever I can get
in Columbia, Missouri. And then I got a job at SiriusXM.
They were launching a fantasy sports channel, and they said
do you play fantasy baseball? And I was like, m
M no, no, in fact not, what's an ear? I
got it, I'll figure it out, sure, no idea. So
(07:18):
I wasn't ever a huge baseball fan. I grew up
with the Cubs like hello, Like I wasn't exactly like
I was scoring the games out in the bleacher seeds.
I was, you know, using a fake id to buy
old style beer. Sorry, Okay, So I was trying to
to sort of you know, take I just said yes.
I just said yes to everything, and I said I'll
just figure it out. And I don't know if that's
good advice or not, but it certainly helped me and
(07:39):
get confidence, like I'll figure it out. It's a great
it's a great thing to look in the mirror and
tell you tell yourself. And I think I've been running
this program of survival mode really my entire life, in
my career and all of that. Football was not something
that we watched growing up in my house a little
bit like we loved a Devin Hester or Matt Forte.
But but you know, my parents were immigrants. It wasn't
like they were season ticket hold I've never gone to
(08:01):
a Bears game. I went to one the opening season
packers like a couple of years ago, because NFL Network
got me tickets. I had never you know, i'd never
had that opportunity. And now I'm on a tangent and
now you're the host and you have to reel me in.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
No, that's fine, you're fine. I kind of liked hearing
that whole story.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, I just I gravitated towards sports and it pulled
me in, it really did. I a patron at my
bar was taking a job with Serious XM and said,
I really think, like you know your stuff, why don't
you come and do like this smaller role like news hits.
And I said, okay, great, And then it was talking
(08:41):
fantasy baseball, doing the research. You know, I somehow called
that Jose Batista was going to hit those forty dingers
out of nowhere, and he did, and I got confident
about it, and I was like, this is amazing, total
hapless call by me. But it ended up working out
when he was with the Blue Jays years and years
and years ago. And then you know, the Cardinals sort
of embraced me, but they, you know, they didn't come
find me. I went and knocked on Oh my gosh,
(09:02):
Channel five KSDK and Saint Louis I went to me.
I said, Metro Mix, like, I'll let me go tell
you like the three hottest bars that are just opened
for Saint Patrick's Day. I would do. I would make packages.
I didn't you know. I tried doing whatever I could
to just get on screen time. And then so from
Serious I went to the Saint Louis Cardinals, and that
year of twenty eleven, they won their championship, and that
(09:23):
was when I sort of got really pulled into the Rams.
Hired me to do some work for them in game,
and then NBC heard me on Sirius and it came
and plucked me out of Saint Louis into the big
leagues of NBC Sports.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
When you were graduating, did you have that Cardinal's job
lined up already?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh no, this is like two years. Okay, Oh I'm bartending.
I'm managing a pizza shop in Saint Louis. I'm driving back.
I was living in Saint Louis too, Columbia on weekends,
spending money to work and get my just get my shift,
get my like itch of how can I get better
this next break? And you know you're doing radio hits.
It's twice an hour, so you have two shots about
(10:01):
twenty seconds apiece to say that Maroon vibes new hits
coming up next are like honky tonk, padonka, don call
play next, ridiculous. But I just really, gosh, man, I
should think about those days more. I really cared. I
was perfectionist. I wanted it to be great and different
and stand out. And I really had a passion for
(10:21):
being on the air more so than anything else. But
I did not have I'm telling you. It just sort
of pulled me in, it really did. I wanted to
do like Juliana Ransick vibes. Yeah, I wanted Kat Sadler,
I wanted e news. I wanted to read a carpet
like getting celebrity stories. But truly, and I've had my
shot at that a lot, and it's fun, but NFL
(10:42):
is there's nothing like it. There's nothing more compelling more.
Every game matters so much, so much. And I've done
the baseball thing and I love that too, but and
it's a whole different vibe. But like just the emotions,
the rawness of it, and like these players pulling little
bits out of them to human them when people don't
do that. It has been such a win for me, right, And.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's it's so it's it's harder because there's less games
right than a baseball season or a hockey season. So
it feels like, oh, it should feel lighter and like
that there's less of it. It feels NonStop from the
moment the season starts to the moment it ends, it's busy,
and then even the off season, there's always something next.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
There's no off season, no free.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Agency, there's the draft, there's like it just NonStop, NonStop.
But that's why it almost keeps pulling you back in.
There's always something, and there's it's always top of mind.
It's keeping you kind of enthralled.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I mean, look where you are. You're no better of
the NFL, you.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Know, I know, I know I really am right now.
But for when you got the Cardinals job, did that
heighten the level of pressure that you put on yourself
at all? Because you were already working so hard, nose
to the grindstone. But then now it's like a step up,
a little bit of an elevated platform. Is it scary?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Not at all? I don't know how else to answer that.
Not at all. But I think I put pressure on
myself to survive. Okay, So it was about how am
I going to make money doing this? How do you
make money? When you work a Cardinal game? You have
to be there two hours before it starts, and it
could go if there's a rain to lay goodbye, right, so,
and you're making seventy dollars for the day. So then
(12:22):
you have to supplement that somehow and figure that out,
and then you have the loans. It was very stressful.
That entire time was pretty pressured from that standpoint. And
then you want to make it. You want to you know,
I wanted to go straight to If I had the money,
I would have gone straight to New York. And I
would have and I did. And when I moved to
New York, I was sleeping on couches for a very
long time, and then I was I was knocking on doors.
(12:45):
I can't even explain, like literally knocking on doors. Then
with some people in these big positions who years later,
once Good Morning Football started, came back and were like
I just wanted to meet you. And I'm like, I've
tried to have a meeting with you for two years.
And that's really rewarding, right where you're like, I did it.
I try, I tried, and I tried and tried and
try it, and you know, there's a lot of no's,
(13:05):
but there's just a lot of nobody's. Nobody like you
can't have to do it yourself, right. And now I
really encourage everybody and everybody out there who wants to
be in media, just do it yourself, find a way
be authentic and either knock on the doors, but also
you can go and make a package, shoot a thing,
do whatever, and give your opinion yes, and feel good
(13:26):
about that. Well.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's it's such a good mantra of like do it yourself,
because my mom always used to say growing up, if
you don't advocate for yourself, no one else is going
to like, I don't know this person from anyone, So
why am I going to vouch for them? Versus like,
you know yourself so well, you know what you are,
you know what you're made of all of that, So
(13:49):
go and prove that to people. Yeah, and tell people
about that.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I will say a cautionary thing on that, just as
I'm hearing it sounds like I'm talking. But you do
it at some point, at some point need to not you,
but just relent a little bit and just definitely. But
it's very hard. It's very hard to if you find
a trustee producer, if you find someone that's got you
(14:13):
and gets you, you have to hold onto that person
or you know, just even an agent relationship or anybody
who deals with your business. It's a little you know,
you'll do it yourself. You're better than anybody, but that
gets you can't do it all. Yeah, you can't do
it all, so trying is you know, once you get
to a certain place, it gets a little sticky.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Do you feel like you had to learn that lesson
a hard way?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think I'm still a great question. That was a
good one. Thank you. She's a star everybody. I don't
know if it was a hard way. I think I
don't think I've learned it. I think I'm still learning it.
I'm still micromanaging like everything.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Well, it's like giving up the control and trusting that
someone will advocate for you as well as you advocate
for yourself, and like really trust it. That right, It's hard.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It takes a lot, Yeah, it takes a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So to get to Good Morning Football, the path was
from NBC Sports.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah. I was doing NBC Sports, just trying to get
on air anytime I could, and the inventory was limited,
and you know, they wouldn't put me on Olympics and
I would love to do that because I love telling stories.
But you know, there's there's lanes at NBC Sports, and
if you know, you have to sort of fit the lane,
and I was trying to do fantasy stuff for them,
which I did. And I had one of my favorite
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producers ever, Matt Casey, who and forever indebted to for
making me better. You know, would some hot time pop
me on with my florio on on a show that
they had up there, Pro Football Talk, and I got
to meet, you know, Brian Westbrook and football players, and
I was so excited and it was so fun. And
I'd get to be onto on television like like like
national television. In my I was like, this is great. Uh.
(15:50):
And I had met a producer who was trying to
get the NFL to relent and give him rain of
the morning show what it should look like, chain the
vibe a little bit, and he just liked me for
that spot to sort of launch this show that was
going to be three hours a day. And he knew
that I was hardworking, and he knew that I would
(16:11):
do it in a heartbeat, and he knew that I
had a similar energy about the NFL as he wanted
to install, which is less tear down and more build up,
less condemn and criticize, more celebrate, more human eye and
more embrace. And that's what really when I started that show,
(16:32):
that's what led me was have this energy about it,
and I think it really is what stuck out for
the show.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Do you feel like you've always been that way about
everything and that just kind of came out naturally, or
that like flip that the NFL was trying or not
even necessarily the NFL, but this network was trying to
come across.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
No. I think it's just like hot. It's so easy
to hot take right, so easy to do the g
It's just never been Why would I like, what if
I went out there and like I said something about that,
there is anything I need to say, but I would
never want you know.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The sweetest human ever.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I think people don't see and see athletes or celebrities
as humans. And that sounds like a very trite thing
to say, and everybody knows that, but there really is
a lot these players go through, and they've gone through
since they were about five years old. Yes, and it's
not you know, and and so I've always always tried
to see that and always tried to point out perspective.
(17:25):
I also just you know, I'm not saying I'm like
Pollyanna cheerleader for everyone. That's definitely not true. I've had
my takes over the years, but I like to root
things in effect, like logic, And let me show you
this full screen of these two first months of Joe
Burrow and how slow he was to start and why
I think this injury might be bad. But I love
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Joe Burrow, but you can't argue that. You can't. I'm
not saying he's the worst. They're going to miss the playoffs.
So I think the hot takiness thing was just never
a part of how I want. I knew I didn't
want to do business that way.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Well, it's also I feel like so important too, and
I I hate kind of bringing up this as a woman,
but it's important too as a woman on air in
sports to be rooted in fact, because there's always someone
in the comments.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Don't you dare get a decimal wrong that's like nope, no, no,
no no. If you mess up the yards for carries
by a tenth of the yard, whoo, I don't know anything.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And so you have to kind of be on your stuff,
have it be rooted in fact, because if it's not it,
it almost doesn't come across with as serious intention as
it would if someone else said it, which yeah, who
knows why, but it makes me.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It makes me a little sad to hear that that's
the sentiment that's still you know, because when I I
feel like it's better now than it was, but it's not.
It's not good enough, right, and so it's it's tough.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I have the take of it might not be where
I want it to be. That's fine. I have a
lot of high standards, so maybe it will never be
exactly where I want it to be. But I know
that you can't tell me no or like stop doing this,
or you're not good enough for this job whatever, because
(19:11):
I've been screamed at by coaches before of being like,
oh you got that drill wrong, go run another sprint
like I've been. I've gone down that road before. It
doesn't really phase me what I love everyone to love
me share. I'm a people pleaser at my heart, but like,
at the end of the day, you like what I
say or I don't. That's okay, Yeah it's not.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It's definitely not. There's a fairness that isn't doesn't exist.
But once you sort of you have to sort of
compose a little.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Bit exactly, you just put it in a box and it's.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Then you're like, I should say something about this, and
that's how why it's so complicated.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So I want to get back to Good Morning Football,
your stint there how much of.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
A I sent there? I was there for.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Six years, six years stint? But how much was that?
Like A did you almost sigh a little bit of
a relief for finally like getting it on air and
getting to do it your way and kind of this
this show that you were really excited to be.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I'm really into I'm drawn towards maybe chaos, but
building things. I'm drawn towards the we got them to
agree to it. Now we have a month to find
co hosts, and now we have a Now we're doing this,
and we have to get you out of your contract,
and we have to do it. I'm like, woo what
But I love like I thrive in that. And then
of course people are like, you're getting rid of this
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whatever existed before it. And that's a tough transition too,
because do people who immediately you know, loved that show,
and that's a hard thing to not lose that core
audience that wants more of the nitty gritty x's and
o's and all that talk. And then you have these
four you know me, Kyle, Peter and Nate just being
like la hola, we love everything, and so it was
(20:49):
a bit of it. It was a bit of a shift.
But to get that, I mean we I honestly feel
like we decided to do the show on a Monday night,
and Tuesday night we started the show and like if
you I mean, I had not slept in three We
were up at two in the morning to start this couple.
It was just unbelievable and then slowly the best thing
about a daily show is that you're done and you're
(21:09):
just like, Okay, well, even if that was terrible, like
look ahead.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Ye, like you got to go again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And I think that part if I'm going to talk
about more about like you know, being an adult and
wanting to be better on and off like that, I
think that does is key in how people should strive
to think about their life, in moving forward and knowing that, Okay,
that happened and I'm going to learn from it, and
like we're going to fix that full screen for tomorrow,
(21:35):
like in trying to move on addressing it and I
have to get it off my chest. But like in
you know, sometimes if left to my own devices, I
will belabor something, I will live in the past. I
will just in my own Like if I had a
weekly show, I think I would think about it NonStop
until the next show. So being able to have that, well,
we just did three hours, We got three hours tomorrow, like, Okay,
(21:55):
this was bad, this was bad. We love this, we
love this. Now what's tomorrow? Like, that's a really beautiful thing. Really,
there's a lot of beauty and staying present like that
that exists when you do a show like that, and it's.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
A skill to be able to drop it and not
carry it over to the next day, because some people
don't have that ability to be like, Okay, we love this,
we love this, let's we didn't like this. Let's move
on to the next show instead of just thinking about
it or harboring it or whatever. But when you do
get that opportunity every day, it is helps it makes
(22:25):
it easier.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, it was, but it was a fun thing to launch,
and it was we had no idea what was going on,
you know, we were just trying different The amount of
segments we did that were just ridiculous but so fun.
And then to have guests like I'll never forget when
you know, Sam Darnold came in to launch was it
their new helmets, their new jerseys, and like we had
players in the studio that came to see us think
(22:48):
it was just very very cool. And then to have
the teams support you. The team support made it the coolest.
Fans amazing also. But to have like a Jets or
any of the other third you want to say, come
to our building or thank you or retweet or we're
going to use content that you made in our world,
and it just sort of snowballed into this beautiful, beautiful
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celebration of the al.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's almost rewarding because it's like, Okay, we're doing something
right that people enjoy it enough to take it to
the organizational level where it's like, Okay, they want to
retweet it or host us or whatever have you.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, or players just knowing you because they're on in
the building right. Wait, why do you like what? Julio Jones?
You know who I am? Huh?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
With the chaos that was just launching a new show,
was it also chaotic in the sense that there's four
of you, all very big personalities. Was that hard to
manage as a host at times?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I think everyone sort of found their lane and we
got into almost i would say, at times too much
of a rhythm, okay, where it got like, all right,
this is this, you'll take it. You'll take it, you'll
take it. We're good and you know, sometimes you like
the switching it up or whatever. So I think I
think there after a couple of seasons, became a little
(24:05):
comfortable nature with the pandemic, you know, got us right
out of that, and we had to adjust to that
really really quickly. You know, we changed studios, we changed
showrunners a bunch, so there was always something new going on,
which sort of kept us on our toes. And I'll
say the thing about Good Morning Football and all of
the hosts is that everyone just wanted to make it
better right every show and by whatever definition that was
(24:29):
to that specific host, but it was there was never
really a moment of complacency, and like Kyle and Peter
really drove that agenda of like improvement and what we
can do and how do we do this differently the
next day? And so a lot of the rise of
that is that sort of the ability to have that
relentlessness was really key in our show.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Do you have a favorite moment that stands out from
your six years there.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Oh my god, I.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Know there's probably so many.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm going to say, not the first show that was crazy,
not the first year. How often can you think of
one a favorite moment? I think all of our live
shows are the best.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So we'd get out of the studio and we would
go get to go to super Bowl or Draft or whatever,
and there's like costume changes and madness. I'm like, I
don't want to do any of it. I'm like, oh God,
here we go again. And I just was just like
a total curmudgeon. But you kind of have to give
into the energy of the moment, and so any of
us like on Miami Beach and my Heels in the
(25:31):
Sand with DK Metcalf, those are probably one of my
favorite moments. And Peter's being absurd and Peter, who also
came from like a reporter standpoint when you started the show.
To watch him sort of let the layers come off
and show his personality more was such a joy to
have him like in a tank in a tank top
drinking you who with DK Metcalf, Like you don't see
(25:52):
that with other without the reporters and stuff. So that's
it's all, it's it's what a blessing but a super whirlwind. Two.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So then you end your career with Good Morning Football
and you moved to your own show up.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And I wouldn't say that was the plan. It wasn't
quite like I'm going to go do this, but I
just felt like I was in such a good place
with Good Morning Football. I was there maybe a year
longer than I would have liked to be, just because
I felt really like I had done good work there.
And then we did we both agreed to an option
that we had and they said, Okay, let's do this
(26:26):
one more year. But I knew kind of doing that
that that would be my last year. Okay, but I
just didn't say anything just because I just didn't want
to do that until right at the end. It was
sort of abrupt, but that's just kind of how that's
how I'm doing. But it was beautiful. I just really
felt like I felt like it was I felt like
it was the perfect time for me to leave.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Did you just feel like not that it was getting
easy by any like, by any stance, but that it
might have just been you were getting comfortable doing what
and you love to be uncomfortable from yeah, you've told me.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I don't know if I felt that. I think if
I could go back, I would say I could do
much better work. Okay, like I could do I could
have done better at my job. There's a lot of
things that I think about with that, but I'm trying
don't try not to sort of belabor them. I think
it was just time. It was just time, and I
have not thought differently.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Good. That's good. Well, now you have your own show
of an Atoms, which is so exciting. How is that
transition going from four people around a table every morning
for three hours, because then going to your own show
where you are alone for most of the part and
then you have guests on.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
But I think I'm with guests most of the time
that I'm alone for some parts, and that's how I'd
like it to stay. So FanDuel has been such a
cool partner. Just do whatever you want, anything but the
freedom to create whatever hour you want to do. And
I know that I love interviewing. I love talking to
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people like I'm sure you do. You want stories, you
want to provide content, motivation, whatever it is, encouragement for people.
And I've been blessed to make because of Good Morning Football,
some really nice connections, some really nice relationships with people
who are willing to come on. It's like the biggest
compliment you can play somebody, I'll come on and talk
to you. It's a beautiful thing and something that I
(28:14):
didn't feel like I got to do as much on
Good Morning Football is one on one interviews. I got
to do them for Game Day Morning, which is so fun,
and I would I want to do that now, But
there's a hang up. I wish, I wish I might
be back at some point. I love doing that job.
But it's those sit down interviews, those one on ones
where you can ask a couple questions, not one question
(28:34):
somebody else ask. Well, it's just I really enjoy that experience.
So I thought, well, let me make a show and
see if people will come on and talk to me.
And we've sort of grown from there. So now it's
you know, we have we have some guests that will
be joining us weekly this year, which will be super fun.
We had Gronk last year. He'll be back this year.
Every Wednesday will have with Gronk. I'm just going to
say that right now. We're hearing it first, the whole
(28:56):
show will have them. He'll be on so that'll be
super fun. And I think just getting those interviews giving
you know, when I started it, I said, I just
want to give good information. I want to be on
the right side of it, meaning I want to maintain
credibility and integrity, but also have fun. And I really
just want to create moments. And I feel like we've
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in a very short amount of time been successful with that.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Do you feel like this show is more yourself? Not
that you've ever had to compromise being yourself on air,
but just because you really built it and you had
those pillars going into it.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Oh, man, I think a little more. But I try
to make it about the person coming on the show
because I'm a little guarded and I'm not super revelatory.
So I think, you know, there's a lot of talk
I'll do a podcast, I'm like, what am I going
to talk? I don't I will not speak about anything.
I'm a you know, I'm a vault, but I will
(29:54):
say I don't know. Pamil Saniy said, I've been more
vulnerable on this show, right, I like open up a
little bit more. I think you sort of have to
if it's just you and the camera, right, But I
have a great team, so it's not just me in
the camera. It is truly a small, mean lean. We're
adding more people. We're so blessed to be adding in
(30:16):
this time when everything's going on in this space. I'm
so grateful and so I'm not alone. I like pulling
people on the air to all my staff, which they
have to get more comfortable with. But it great.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Do you find that it's kind of I don't know
how to phrase this one. Do you find that you
are guarded because you want to keep part of that aspect?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Like, go ahead, ask me again.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Do you feel like you're guarded because so much of
yourself is on air and you do have to be
so open about yourself because like.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Think about Good Morning Football, Caroline, I never said anything
about myself really, Like what do people really learn? Like
what I did eat? Like what I mean? What? Like
you know that I'm a bad driver. I don't really
share the intimate vulnerable thoughts Caroline, I never had because
I think I just think it's not interesting. We're here
to talk about I don't know, it's not interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Like to know, Caroline, you want to talk about the sports,
I'll tell.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You whatever you want to know.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
What is the hardest not necessarily interview, but just moment
you faced in your career.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Hardest moment in my career.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Oh man, we're getting the deep the deep thoughts.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
The hardest moment is oh man, it's a great question.
Just trying to get to where I want to go
right now, which is there's so much innovation going on
and so much is changing all at our fingertips right now.
(31:54):
So to get sort of the eyeballs, to get the
to get the more exposure so people see my show.
That's my big that's my greatest thing that I'm putting
out great content right now and I want everyone to
see it. Right I think this is the I'm in
it right now.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Okay, well then that's great because you're crushing what you're
doing right now. So if that's the if that's the hardest, get.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
There no other personal questions. I don't do the soff
of Carrolin. You're a great interview.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Oh my god, you're so sweet. Well, I would I
would also ask that what do you think is maybe
something that you have been holding back from?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Oh oh my god, that makes you like a little
mirry happening. What am I holding back from I don't know,
you know what I'm I don't ask for what I need.
I would say, I think I'm not as I'm not
very vulnerable and if I have a need, uh not
just for my show? Hello, Hello, this is doctor Caroline.
(32:57):
I wish I had a better answer for you.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
No, I think I think that's fair. Do you think
that it not inhibits your career at times? But it
makes work harder for you because you don't feel like
you can ask for what you need.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I think it goes back to your point of I
need to enable other people to help me. Yeah, and
that's and that will get me far. And that's always
been sort of tough, and I'm a toughie. I need
to be less of a toughie and be more vulnerable.
And that's okay.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
You grew that thick New York skin for six years
on Good Morning Football.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I did. It's hard, I certainly did.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
All right, Well that's hard, okay. Well I want to
go back to you at practice today because you got
to witness the Jets in training camp and really feel
the vibe that they are curating and cultivating. What do
you expect out of them? This season. I know, I
know it's the season of hope. We're in early August.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
At this point, he's thirty nine. I know he looks
better than ever, better than ever. I just talked to him.
He's very happy. He's happier than he looks that. I
believe that, and that's going to matter. There might be
some downs in the season, like they're always. I think
(34:15):
that's what your hacket is for. I'm going to think
of like the challenges, what could stop them? Health of course,
but that's your O line, right, So is Elijah Raa Tucker?
That guy? Is Makhai Beckton going to play this year?
We haven't seen him in a while. He's two missed
a combined twenty seven games since being on the team.
They need to be out there. We're hearing some positive
things about the O line. I want to see that.
(34:35):
I don't think, you know, the chemistry is the only
thing that's going to really hold them back, right that
the fact that you know, Aaron maybe you know, although
these Hall of Fame games, it's beautiful to have the
extra practices, the time together, are they using it appropriately?
It looks like it No one's feeling the weight of
the world your defense was number three last year and
(34:56):
I had Quinn and Williams today. Tell me our defuds
was good? Less you and I go, you were top five?
What are you talking about? And he said, if you're
not one your last I said, just love quitting. I
just love it. And you've got guys like him, and
you've got, you know, guys who have something to prove,
like a CJ. Moseley, and you've got, you know, on offense,
you've got your breist Hall, who's a star, and he's
(35:17):
going to be extra motivating because he doesn't want to
hear this Dalvin talk. He doesn't want to hear these
fans turping his name. He's the star who went down
and has something to prove. So there's a lot of
that going on. What's going to hold them back? The
AFC East, the AFC A couple of missed games and
that gauntlet of a schedule you guys have been handed
to start out the gate. Those will all matter when
(35:39):
the AFC needs to figure itself out itself out. I mean,
you look at Brady, I said, as to Gronk, you
look at Brady. Brady was in the NFC South and
he went to the Super Bowl and he won it.
And I know for a fact Aaron looks at the
ends of the twilights of Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers
and Tom Brady's career. But you know Tom had an
easier path. Tom had a lot going for him. He
(36:00):
could lose all those games in the beginning of the year.
He won like eight straight to get there. But it's
you can't do that in this division. But then but
then maybe they can. Maybe they can do you feel
like they better.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
It'd be so much it would be really fun for
I'm selfishly of course me as well.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's gonna be It'll be fun either way. But we
of course want them to do well. This organization deserves it.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I mean with the fans particularly, I feel like they
don't even know how to handle themselves right now because
they are just so over the moon in the sense
of they've never seen what this team has to offer
right now.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
They never they're not used to this, right. But you
can take that two ways. As a human you say, wow,
this is amazing, I'm gonna look, I'm gonna go with
this like great, or you can say, hold on what
this this can't happen. But I'm not really seeing that
vibe from the fan base. The fan base is really
embracing it. I will say. The rest of the AFC
does not like what is being of course does not
(36:57):
like this, of course just winning the off season talk.
Like the coach out in Denver who shall not be
named here, he he's not the only one that feels
that way about Oh the hard knocks and everyone's just
crowding them as that they got thirty five million day.
Nobody likes it. So that's a little it's a it's
a target on the back.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
It's a little of that, yep. Where I'm sure that
they the Jets are all aware of that, and coach
sala is aware of it. But he even spoken a
presser this week saying the pressure isn't on us to perform.
The pressure is more so on the fact that if
we don't go out there and give our best and
(37:37):
like what we are fully capable of, then it's a
problem because it's not all these grand expectations that everyone
else is putting on them. It's their expectations of themselves,
and they have high expectations. Likequinin Williams said, he's sala
Is the coolest, He's great guy. Ever, he's great And.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
We talked a little bit today about just what these
first two years meant and being able to handle what's
upon him right now, and he talked about what advantage
that is. I mean, can you imagine if this was
his first year, even his second year, like those two
years really led to everything he's doing right now. It's
a beautiful, beautiful thing. And he's just a beautiful man.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, he's a great coach and he loves his players
so much, and you can see that day in and
day out. Do you feel like with the experience that
Salah has, with the experience that Aaron Rodgers brings, with
a sauce gardener, with a Garrett Wilson, the young core,
that it's almost the recipe for success whatever you define success.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
As he's there, I think these young cats are rejuvenating him.
He just told me, I'm like, I'm like a kid
on the first day of school at a new school.
Because he's playing by the rules. It's very you know,
like you can see, it's very different than things that
we've heard or seen or thought we heard or saw
about him where he was previously for so many years
and it might have just gotten like you know that
(38:56):
stuff just adds on year to year, even small resentment,
small things, boredom sets in all of that. He's just
living his best life. He is truly eating it up
with a spoon like a jar of Natella and me
in the middle of the night. He's living his actual
best life right now. And I think as long as
he has the people around him, like Asala, who seems
(39:16):
to be on the very same wavelength as Aaron, as
far as football and humanity are concerned. And you have
his boy hacket, and you've got Randall, and you've got
you've got this buy you have this buy in from
Aaron to help and you have this buying from him
to to team play this one hundred percent. And he's
helping the defense out there. He's telling Sauce what he's
seeing like is it is a beautiful recipe. But that
(39:39):
doesn't usually work in the NFL. I know, I will
say for to be storybook, I'm not don't don't cut
my mic I have no warnings. I haven't enjoyed the ride.
Message for this Jets fan base, enjoy it. Just truly
be in the present moment and enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Kay Adams, you are the best.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Oh my gosh, you're you're the therap Oh goody time.
Do I have to Vendmo you?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah you can, Venmo me, I take, I take, Venmo Worzel,
whichever one.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Congratulations on your success.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I want your story at some point. Please come on
my show. Okay, thank you, Thank you, And.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
For all of you tuning in to New York Her
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Thank you so much. I'm Caroline Hendershot and we'll see
you on the next episode.
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