November 22, 2017 • 10 mins
Emmy Award-winning NFL Films producers Keith Cossrow and Paul Camarata explain what the podcast listeners can expect to hear from the NFL Films Podcast going forward. Various NFL Films producers will provide the audience with behind-the-scenes access to and commentary on major productions such as NFL Network's "A Football Life," HBO's "Hard Knocks" and Amazon's "All or Nothing" series.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
If you hear that music, you have stumbled across the
NFL Films podcast. But what is the NFL Films podcast. Well,
let's explain. My name is Keith Cosro and I'm Paul Camerada.
(00:29):
We are producers at NFL Films, two of I don't
know eighty producers here at NFL Films. The company has
been around since about and many of you are probably
familiar with NFL Films and our work. Um. Some have
(00:51):
memories from your childhood. Some of you might be fans
of shows we do in the present. We do a
lot of shows in the present. You've seen Hard Knocks,
All or Nothing, a Football Life, Turning Point, match Up
Inside the NFL, A lot of different types of shows
on many different networks, of course um anchored by NFL Network,
(01:16):
where our documentary series Football Life and Timeline live. And
we thought that, like everyone else in the media world,
we should probably have a podcast. Um. Actually that's not
exactly true. We did not think that. Some other people
thought maybe we should have a podcast and asked us,
what do you guys think about doing a podcast? Um,
(01:38):
And that actually got us to thinking, there's somebody who
used to be at NFL films, who would really like
that idea? And that's Steve Sable, our old boss. Steve
and his father, Ed Sable are the founders of NFL
Films and built this company into what it is, and
(01:59):
Ed the patriarch is in the Hall of Fame. The
late Steve Sable, his son, the creative genius of NFL
Films and the mentor of so many of us here um.
He loved to walk the halls of NFL Films and
talked to his producers at all hours of the day
and night, every day of the week about any football
(02:21):
related topic that he felt that that that caught his
fancy that morning, and he used to walk the halls
and he would say, we should, this should be a
show which it would be called. We'll call it the
Producers Lounge. And one year we even did a pilot
for the Producers Lounge and it was awful. It was
going to be a TV show. It looked like a
(02:42):
local access version of the Sports Reporters, which around that
time pretty much everyone in media was doing. But so
we never went ahead with that project, and Steve lamented
it for years, and along came podcasts, and as usual,
Steve was well ahead of his time because his idea
(03:03):
has become what pretty much everyone in the world is
doing is having conversations UM in a format that we
can all listen in on. So that brings us to
where we are now. We're in our studio here at
NFL Films and Mount Laurel, New Jersey, and we're here
to talk football and movies and football movies. That's what
we do pretty much every day of the year. I
(03:26):
think a lot of us bring it home with us
and think about it when we're not here. And we're here,
we we work on it, we talk about it, we
debate it, uh, and we make these shows and we
enjoy the process and we enjoy putting them out in
the world. So we're here to do a little bit
of kind of how things work, if you've seen that.
If we're gonna do a little bit of a director's
cut type vibe of if you've listened to how a
(03:47):
movie was put together, Uh, and a little bit of
sort of just the football debates that we as fans
and as filmmakers and storytellers find ourselves engaged in UM
throughout throughout our day and about our work weeks here
and UH, we're gonna dive specifically this year into some
of our documentary shows. Of Football Life, which is our
biography series nearing its one episode on the NFL Network,
(04:12):
The Timeline, which is our documentary series which doesn't so
much focus on individuals but on teams, topics, and the
moments that made history. You're gonna hear us. You're gonna
hear from the producers of those films. You're gonna hear
from noted NFL films guru Greg Cosell, who's renowned in
the media industry for i think going on forty years
(04:34):
of his analysis of the coaching tape. He's a producer
of the NFL Matchup Show in ESPN this year. He's
actually the talent. He's on camera on the NFL Matchup Show,
and he will bring insight to the especially the XS
and os, but also the filmmaking aspect of what we
do here. Uh. You will hear from many of the
subjects of the films themselves. Players like Eddie George, Jim Kelly,
(04:58):
and Larry Fitzgerald will be joining us in the podcast
this season to react to their films and to talk
football with us, which is what we all love to do. Yeah,
we might even get into more chattier football centric you know,
as we head into the postseason, we may give you
playoff previews with Greg Smith, the producer of Turning Point,
(05:19):
Greg co sell the aforementioned noted one Greg co sell Um.
So we're gonna try a lot of different things. We
we we think we have some things to talk about
that that um, some folks might be interested in listening
in on, um, some other things that we like to
talk about that that folks probably won't find as interesting, Like,
(05:42):
for instance, Paul, Yes, I think it's important for this
podcast to find out what it wants to be. And
when you say that, I kind of wretch a little bit.
So this is the ongoing debate we've been having because
this phrase what it wants to be, I feel like
is just so horribly passive. Keith, that our charge professionally
(06:07):
is to be creators of things and to mold and
to find into guide stories, and you just kind of
want to sit back and let it be what it
wants to be. And it just doesn't sound like what
we're supposed to be doing. So you think that that
phrase implies passivity, I think it implies flexibility and open
mindedness required to create something that people are going to enjoy.
(06:30):
It's an adventure that we're embarking on a journey, and
we don't know what the destination is, Paul. I think
the marriage of flexibility and vision, Keith, is what we're
after here. We want to have an idea of what
we're striving at. Yes, be open to to the creative
process and all of its foibles and trials and tribulations
(06:50):
and joys and uh, but just to let it be
what it wants to be. You know, I think we
owe the people more than that. Well, okay, and that's fair.
I mean I think you're what you're doing is you're
you're giving more meaning to the phrase than than I,
than than it than it wants to have. I think
when you say you know it's gonna we're gonna find
(07:12):
out what it wants to be, there's there's an two
in my head. There's an active participation by the creators
in there and um and we're gonna find out. We're
gonna find out. We're gonna we go in with a vision.
We're gonna we're gonna try to provide something that doesn't
exist out there in the world. A conversation about football
(07:33):
and movies and the process of making football movies that
no one else in the world could provide. And we're
gonna bring our music, the famous legendary NFL Films music.
We're gonna bring our sound and our wires are miked up,
um access. We're gonna bring out of interviews with legends
(07:54):
who make these documentaries what they are UM often for
for for a film like a foot all life on
a player like Emmett Smith, we'll do eight ten hours
of interviews with the subject for a forty more forty
four minute film. So, as you can guess, a lot
of good stuff ends up on the floor, and this
is an opportunity to delve into some of that material.
(08:16):
UM and, like Paul mentioned, to speak to the subject
after he's watched his own documentary, which is a really
intriguing process, UM and awkward for all of us. We
hope that you guys will listen. We hope to hear
from you. On social media. You can follow us at
NFL Films on Twitter, on Instagram, on Facebook, on our
(08:38):
YouTube channel, and of course you can listen to this podcast,
the NFL Films Podcast on iTunes. So download, share, listen,
send us your questions, your thoughts, your reactions, and we're
excited to extend our storytelling filmmaking process into a new
space that, like Keith said, Steve, maybe in Asian before
(09:00):
it even existed, and uh here we are hoping to
bring it to fruition, iTunes, any app you have. I
think NFL dot com has uh destination to find all
the NFL podcasts um and eventually, Paul, I think that
we will probably branch off into an extended NFL Films
(09:24):
podcast universe and umbrella. Once this really takes off, it'll
it'll bring it'll, it'll just keep good, will have tributaries,
people will have their own podcasts. Really a big, big,
expansive vision just scratching the surface once it discovers what
it wants to be. And when you hear this song
Pony Soldiers, that means we're done. So until next time,
(09:50):
I'm Paul, I'm Keith. Thanks for joining us in the
NFL Films Podcast today and we look forward to having
you be part of the conversation moving forward. Take everyone,
If you hear that music, you have stumbled across the
NFL Films podcast. But what is the NFL Films podcast. Well,
let's explain. My name is Keith Cosro and I'm Paul Camerada.
(00:29):
We are producers at NFL Films, two of I don't
know eighty producers here at NFL Films. The company has
been around since about and many of you are probably
familiar with NFL Films and our work. Um. Some have
(00:51):
memories from your childhood. Some of you might be fans
of shows we do in the present. We do a
lot of shows in the present. You've seen Hard Knocks,
All or Nothing, a Football Life, Turning Point, match Up
Inside the NFL, A lot of different types of shows
on many different networks, of course um anchored by NFL Network,
(01:16):
where our documentary series Football Life and Timeline live. And
we thought that, like everyone else in the media world,
we should probably have a podcast. Um. Actually that's not
exactly true. We did not think that. Some other people
thought maybe we should have a podcast and asked us,
what do you guys think about doing a podcast? Um,
(01:38):
And that actually got us to thinking, there's somebody who
used to be at NFL films, who would really like
that idea? And that's Steve Sable, our old boss. Steve
and his father, Ed Sable are the founders of NFL
Films and built this company into what it is, and
(01:59):
Ed the patriarch is in the Hall of Fame. The
late Steve Sable, his son, the creative genius of NFL
Films and the mentor of so many of us here um.
He loved to walk the halls of NFL Films and
talked to his producers at all hours of the day
and night, every day of the week about any football
(02:21):
related topic that he felt that that that caught his
fancy that morning, and he used to walk the halls
and he would say, we should, this should be a
show which it would be called. We'll call it the
Producers Lounge. And one year we even did a pilot
for the Producers Lounge and it was awful. It was
going to be a TV show. It looked like a
(02:42):
local access version of the Sports Reporters, which around that
time pretty much everyone in media was doing. But so
we never went ahead with that project, and Steve lamented
it for years, and along came podcasts, and as usual,
Steve was well ahead of his time because his idea
(03:03):
has become what pretty much everyone in the world is
doing is having conversations UM in a format that we
can all listen in on. So that brings us to
where we are now. We're in our studio here at
NFL Films and Mount Laurel, New Jersey, and we're here
to talk football and movies and football movies. That's what
we do pretty much every day of the year. I
(03:26):
think a lot of us bring it home with us
and think about it when we're not here. And we're here,
we we work on it, we talk about it, we
debate it, uh, and we make these shows and we
enjoy the process and we enjoy putting them out in
the world. So we're here to do a little bit
of kind of how things work, if you've seen that.
If we're gonna do a little bit of a director's
cut type vibe of if you've listened to how a
(03:47):
movie was put together, Uh, and a little bit of
sort of just the football debates that we as fans
and as filmmakers and storytellers find ourselves engaged in UM
throughout throughout our day and about our work weeks here
and UH, we're gonna dive specifically this year into some
of our documentary shows. Of Football Life, which is our
biography series nearing its one episode on the NFL Network,
(04:12):
The Timeline, which is our documentary series which doesn't so
much focus on individuals but on teams, topics, and the
moments that made history. You're gonna hear us. You're gonna
hear from the producers of those films. You're gonna hear
from noted NFL films guru Greg Cosell, who's renowned in
the media industry for i think going on forty years
(04:34):
of his analysis of the coaching tape. He's a producer
of the NFL Matchup Show in ESPN this year. He's
actually the talent. He's on camera on the NFL Matchup Show,
and he will bring insight to the especially the XS
and os, but also the filmmaking aspect of what we
do here. Uh. You will hear from many of the
subjects of the films themselves. Players like Eddie George, Jim Kelly,
(04:58):
and Larry Fitzgerald will be joining us in the podcast
this season to react to their films and to talk
football with us, which is what we all love to do. Yeah,
we might even get into more chattier football centric you know,
as we head into the postseason, we may give you
playoff previews with Greg Smith, the producer of Turning Point,
(05:19):
Greg co sell the aforementioned noted one Greg co sell Um.
So we're gonna try a lot of different things. We
we we think we have some things to talk about
that that um, some folks might be interested in listening
in on, um, some other things that we like to
talk about that that folks probably won't find as interesting, Like,
(05:42):
for instance, Paul, Yes, I think it's important for this
podcast to find out what it wants to be. And
when you say that, I kind of wretch a little bit.
So this is the ongoing debate we've been having because
this phrase what it wants to be, I feel like
is just so horribly passive. Keith, that our charge professionally
(06:07):
is to be creators of things and to mold and
to find into guide stories, and you just kind of
want to sit back and let it be what it
wants to be. And it just doesn't sound like what
we're supposed to be doing. So you think that that
phrase implies passivity, I think it implies flexibility and open
mindedness required to create something that people are going to enjoy.
(06:30):
It's an adventure that we're embarking on a journey, and
we don't know what the destination is, Paul. I think
the marriage of flexibility and vision, Keith, is what we're
after here. We want to have an idea of what
we're striving at. Yes, be open to to the creative
process and all of its foibles and trials and tribulations
(06:50):
and joys and uh, but just to let it be
what it wants to be. You know, I think we
owe the people more than that. Well, okay, and that's fair.
I mean I think you're what you're doing is you're
you're giving more meaning to the phrase than than I,
than than it than it wants to have. I think
when you say you know it's gonna we're gonna find
(07:12):
out what it wants to be, there's there's an two
in my head. There's an active participation by the creators
in there and um and we're gonna find out. We're
gonna find out. We're gonna we go in with a vision.
We're gonna we're gonna try to provide something that doesn't
exist out there in the world. A conversation about football
(07:33):
and movies and the process of making football movies that
no one else in the world could provide. And we're
gonna bring our music, the famous legendary NFL Films music.
We're gonna bring our sound and our wires are miked up,
um access. We're gonna bring out of interviews with legends
(07:54):
who make these documentaries what they are UM often for
for for a film like a foot all life on
a player like Emmett Smith, we'll do eight ten hours
of interviews with the subject for a forty more forty
four minute film. So, as you can guess, a lot
of good stuff ends up on the floor, and this
is an opportunity to delve into some of that material.
(08:16):
UM and, like Paul mentioned, to speak to the subject
after he's watched his own documentary, which is a really
intriguing process, UM and awkward for all of us. We
hope that you guys will listen. We hope to hear
from you. On social media. You can follow us at
NFL Films on Twitter, on Instagram, on Facebook, on our
(08:38):
YouTube channel, and of course you can listen to this podcast,
the NFL Films Podcast on iTunes. So download, share, listen,
send us your questions, your thoughts, your reactions, and we're
excited to extend our storytelling filmmaking process into a new
space that, like Keith said, Steve, maybe in Asian before
(09:00):
it even existed, and uh here we are hoping to
bring it to fruition, iTunes, any app you have. I
think NFL dot com has uh destination to find all
the NFL podcasts um and eventually, Paul, I think that
we will probably branch off into an extended NFL Films
(09:24):
podcast universe and umbrella. Once this really takes off, it'll
it'll bring it'll, it'll just keep good, will have tributaries,
people will have their own podcasts. Really a big, big,
expansive vision just scratching the surface once it discovers what
it wants to be. And when you hear this song
Pony Soldiers, that means we're done. So until next time,
(09:50):
I'm Paul, I'm Keith. Thanks for joining us in the
NFL Films Podcast today and we look forward to having
you be part of the conversation moving forward. Take everyone,
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