On the latest NFL Players: Second Acts podcast, Peanut and Roman are joined by former running back Chris Gronkowski. Chris discusses what it was like growing up with five brothers, four of which played in the NFL. He also explains How he defied the odds to make it to the NFL. Later, he explains what it was like playing with Tony Romo, and the demanding style of Peyton Manning. Chris then shares his journey to creating his Ice Shaker brand, and how he got his big break on Shark Tank.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
What's up everybody on Peanut Tillman and this is the
NFL Player's Second Act podcast and with me, as always
my trusty co hosts Lavender, Roman Harper. What's up baby,
I'm doing good. Really excited about our next guest.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Guest.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I know, but I have not got to talk to
this gentleman before.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
He's got a great background, a great history, comes from
a crazy athletic family.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I actually got it.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I'm gonna give him a rundown of what happens when
I ask my kids the first thing that comes to
mind about the last name of his family.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Played fullback in the NFL for four different teams. He
is a member of the Gronkowski family, and now he
is the CEO and creator of a ice Shaker.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Brandy.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Chris Gonkowski to the part.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
There we go? What sha you man? Yeah? For sure?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
All right, Chris, Yeah, I gotta so.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
First thing, so I told my children I was interviewing
uh A Gronkowski, Chris Gonkowski, And they said, I said,
what is the first thing that comes to mind when
you hear the word Gronkowski?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Number one?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
They said, athletic.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I'll take that. You know, I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Me neither.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I was not expecting that either. But that's what they said.
They said athletic like. Then my daughter said big. It's
like okay, then you know what I mean. Then my
son said strong, right, all right, you know what I mean.
And so these are the words kids ask them what
they think about it when they hear me my name,
(01:49):
now that thing they call you?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
What is it peel to have everybody their first thought process?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And these are younger people.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
My kids are thirteen to five, and so these are
the mindset when they hear Gronkowski. They connect you all
to these great words that you like, these these great adjectives.
There's still words, but more descriptive is adjective to describe
you guys.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, that I mean. It's good to be a role model,
for sure. Yes, you know a lot of times I
hear different descriptions. So it's good to know that the
younger kids, they don't relate it. It's in a different
way at this point. So I think a lot of
that has helped with like the Nickelodeon shows and stuff
like that that my brother has been on, where they
see him in a light that's a little different than
(02:36):
other people have seen him that a little older throughout
his party in days. So yeah, man, that's that's awesome.
And I got four kids myself now, so I love
that that is how they see us at this point.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
And how does it feel to have four out of
the five of you guys play professional sports. I'm sure
your parents are you've heard that probably many times.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
My dad's told everyone that he's met over the last
ten years, every person he sat next to on an airplane.
I think they know the whole story at this point.
But pretty cool. My oldest brother still thinks he could
have played tight end. He was too scared to play football.
He actually never played ever in no way baseball. Yeah,
he's uh, he's about six six now. He claims he's
the tallest brother now, but he was smaller in high school.
(03:18):
He was like one eighty and came out on the
varsity football team. My second oldest brother, Dan, threw him
a pass hit his hands. He said it hurt his
hands and he quit that day. And so his tight
end dreams that day ended on a pass that hurt
his hands. But he still thinks he could have played football.
But I don't think.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So, Okay, what's the best thing about so I have?
I have one older brother and close. You know, he
used to beat the shit out of me as a kid,
you know, I wanted to and not until I was
until my sophomore year I beat my brother and I
was like, Yo, I've arrived. I've actually made it. I
can beat my older brother. What is it like having
four brothers? Like, what's the best part about having four brothers?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I mean, that's what That's what we did all day
every day too. The best part is just it brings
I think it brings the best out of you. You know,
I got to play with him in high school, I
got to play with them in college. And then I
think because I played with my brother in college and
we had a reputation for having a good time, I
don't think they let me play with them in the
NFL at least Bill belichicked in it. So but with that,
(04:19):
like when you were in that room, you were watching film,
all you wanted to do was impress your brother, right, absolutely,
so you had to go when you had to light
up some guy or you know, you had to flap
back someone whatever it was, and then you had to
go in the film room and you had to be like, hey,
don't take a piss in the next five place. You
got to see something and show them what's up, right,
So I think it just took us, not only on
the field, but in the weight room. Yeah, you know,
(04:39):
during springs, everything was you know, this is my younger brother,
I got to beat him in everything. This is my
older brother. I got to try to beat him and
everything too. So, uh, in the weight room, you know,
we excelled. You know, in speed training we excelled. And
then on the field, same thing. And it's pretty cool
because I got to play next to my brother a
lot too. I was kind of a wing, kind of
full back positioned, and uh, you know he was a
(05:01):
tight end. He run down the middle and take two
guys in coverage. I'd be wide open. So I averaged
like thirty yards to catch my junior year when my
brother was on the field.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
So what kind offense were you guys? Weren't you you
said a wing? So it wasn't a wing tea, was it?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No? It was they were just using me more as
kind of just everything position. Okay, it wasn't a you know,
a true tight end. I was too small, but uh,
in college you could kind of get away with it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So yeah, okay, okay, what's the worst thing about having
four brothers?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
The worst thing is that they can't tell us apart
for the most party, which is it's good and bad.
But so I get called like land a lot because
we're the same height. That's Maria's brother. Uh, and then
you kind of all just get lumped into the same thing.
And this point, you know, at the beginning, how you
talked about all these great terms, right right, it was awesome,
but a lot of times that those are those aren't
the terms I hear, and I get bumped in with
(05:48):
those other terms which I don't really think fit my
description that well. Right right, So, like.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
What term is that you tell me a term that
you like, bro, that's just not.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Even yeah, I mean it, you know when they say, like,
y know, they're not that smart, right, actually I'll fight
back on that even you know, for my brother as well,
you know, twenty years old, get a couple million dollars, right,
this guy just didn't change, nothing changed, didn't spend the money,
just responsible with everything, And like, to me, that's like smart,
(06:19):
that's very smart, extremely and a lot of people see that,
and you know, they get paid and they go have
a really good time and do things that you shouldn't
be doing. And uh, I think he was one of
the most responsible players I've seen, especially with that kind
of money.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, so, how did you end up undrafted on a
Cowboys roster in twenty ten? You were undrafted? I mean,
let's be honest. I saw your stat line in college.
It didn't blow me away.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah you don't. What about those yards per catch man
all eight of them?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And I think you had like what two carries?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, I had a couple carries. The stat line wasn't great. Yeah. Yeah.
I went into college hoping I could get a scholarship.
I didn't so I didn't have to pay for college.
You know. I was still my junior year going out
on Thursday Nights party and like, yeah, the chance of
playing in the NFL for me, I thought was pretty
much a zero. So I was gonna go to school.
I was gonna get the best degree I could. I
went into the business school. I got a degree in accounting.
(07:19):
I was like, man, well I can leave and be
a CPA and make some good money, right, Yes, So
after my junior year, it was really about have a
great time, go on the field, just try to knock
out someone every play. That was kind of a goal.
And about halfway through the season, my running back coach
was like, Hey, there's some teams talking about you, and
I'm like, they got me mixed up with my brother, right,
(07:39):
So they're watching a lot of his film. I would
appear in some of it. I had a couple of
good games and that was the point where they're like,
you have a chance, right, So I went into my
senior year. Actually got hurt in the offseason and tore
my hammy. Came back the first day of practice tour
it again, played through it the whole year, couldn't really run.
It was kind of like, you know, if I get
a chance, I'll go to Pro Day. But I'm not
getting invited to the Combine. But you know, if I
(08:00):
get that chance, I'm gonna take it. So got that chance,
and then it was kind of like, all right, my
brother Rob just got drafted second round. My oldest brother
got drafted in the minor leagues of baseball, see went
later in the rounds. My second oldest brother got drafted
to the Lions. So I'm sitting there like, man, I
already know the story. Now. If I don't make a team,
you're the worst I'm gonna hear about it. Like how
are you the only one in the whole family that
(08:21):
didn't make it? Right? So I kind of had this
mentality like, you know, there's no option here, like I
have to make a team at this point, And that
was kind of what happened. I was lucky enough to
then get paired up with a college roommate from Maryland
before I transferred to Arizona ended up being my roommate and
we kind of both undrafted. Was kind of like, hey, man, yeah,
let's do this. Let's make this team. That's cool.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So when you came to Dallas, what was your first
in person Jerry Jones? Because he's got this really big personality,
you know, you know, being the owner of the GM
you know, very the successful entrepreneur.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I mean they called the stadium Jerry World. Let's just
be honest, this is they don't call anybody else's stamm.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
After is he like hiding around the He's definitely not
allowed to say anything I.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Want to say.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But like, what was your first and person off?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I mean, my whole thing with him was everyone made
it seem like he was always there and always in
your face, and that that wasn't the case. You know,
he'd be at some practices, but he wasn't in the
meeting rooms. You know, you weren't seeing him on a
daily basis or anything like that. You always he would
be there for big events or Christmas parties, and you know,
in the locker room after games. But outside of that,
(09:31):
it wasn't anything different than anywhere else I played at.
You know, that's a great point.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I do think the outside world he was like, man,
Jerry's hands is all on the team. He's down there
probably drawing up place. Everybody probably feels that way, so
I appreciate you sharing that. It's like, no, he's kind
of just like every other owner. He just you know,
he just sells the Star better than everybody else sells
their taps.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
He sells the team better than anybody, not even the Star.
He sells the team then any other owner.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
That was the big That's what I thought. The big
difference was in Dallas was the media. I mean, anyone
was allowed pretty much full access in Dallas. You know,
you went in that locker room there was insane amount
of reporters from everywhere, from sources you never heard before.
And you know, I really asking questions that really had
nothing to do with football either. And you know, once
I left Dallas, and I thought that was normal because
(10:20):
it's the first team I played for. But once I
left there, I realized really quickly that that's not the norm.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's a great boy. I want to know what You're
welcome to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Moment was man, my first game I started, I would say,
you know, I'm lining up my handshaking. I got Brian
Urlacker lined up across from me, and I'm running an
iceo up the middle, and I'm like, here we go.
You actually completed that play? He was, I mean, he
was later in his career, and I'm thinking, like, this
huge hit, right, He's not going to go in there
and throw his head in there, because guys that make
(10:52):
it fifteen years don't do that anymore at that point.
So really it was Lance Briggs, Arizona guy, and I'm like, man,
I know those guys from Arizona, but man, why is
he trying to kill me every play? And so like
it was like two plays later, I go against him.
We both just smashing each other the whole game, and
I'm like, God, this this is really the this is
the real welcome right here. And I swear he had
(11:12):
my number, that he was just coming for me the
whole game. But I ended up scoring a touchdown that game,
so it was kind of like, man, like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What do you remember about the touchdown? Do you remember
what that that play was?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah? It was like a spider five and uh, I
actually I was supposed to run at the d N
and kind of give him a little juke like I
was gonna hit him, but I saw that the flat
was wide open, so I ran out there absolutely let
my running back get destroyed.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Oh my god. Julius Peppers.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, it was Julius Peppers and Marion Barbara to
block him. Uh. It was a tough block for him
and for anybody. It was wide open though, and I
got the catch, So it's pretty cool outside of that.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Got the catch, got a nice little spike. What did
you feel when you as soon as you called it?
Because I looked at the replay. I was covering Jason
Whitte on that play. I fell down, thank god, and
he didn't throw it to my guy.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You're welcome that. I just you know, ran out there
and said, I appreciate you, thank you, because if I
actually did my job the right way, I might might
have got the ball.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But it looked like you, like you caught him.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
It was just like I was super hype man. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
The coolest part though, was like all your teammates, like
the linemen are all coming over and they're just heating
in the back and you're.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Just like, I mean, I just never thought that would
happened for me. And growing up that was kind of
like what you did in the backyard, right, Yeah, this
spike down and then you get.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
In college like oh, you can't can't do anything.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You can't do college is to wait all those years
and then have some you know, miracle moment happened, and
I never thought would happened, So I was I was
just really excited for it. Chris.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
You don't feel bad because the first time I scored
a touchdown, you know, like you said, your whole life,
you have these like I'm gonna celebrate, I'm ana dance,
I'm gonna do all these things, and then you finally
make and you're like, I'm just so excited, and then
I like for me, I scored, and then I was like,
oh shoot, I get to celebrate, Like I already started
running back. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, get
(13:02):
away from you guys. That'll let me, let me get
my shine on and then we can celebrate.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Is this the league? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
You got a touch down?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, a couple. It's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
You don't strike me as a scorer.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, I played defense, so.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
We got ten of them.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm just saying double digits, just throwing it out there anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I got one. Yeah, I got ten, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, he's got one. I got two.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Fight, give me two.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Good. Fine.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So twenty twelve, you make it to Denver. You're playing
with but you're playing with Peyton. How was it going
from Tony Romo to playing with Peyton Manning man?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Peyton Peyton's because that was a year offers injury too,
so he said a good year too.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So I went from I went from Dallas to Indy first. Yeah,
and then that was kind of the year where it
was just a mix of everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Was that the the one year when it's.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
A great year? I went thirteen?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
We started Yeah, yeah, the one year when you guys
they were struggle busting.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, so we started with Curtis Painter and then we
went through a bunch of different quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
At that point, but it was like Chicago every year.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, okay, I was the first guy I guess really
in the Peyton Mann era at the full back position.
So I got there. They gave me a playbook and
had six plays in it, and I was like, man,
this is the easiest playbook I've ever seen in my life.
So I literally had nothing, and it was kind of like, hey,
we don't know if Peyton's gonna play yet or not,
so you know, if he doesn't play, we need some
run game. So that's why I ended up there. Got
(14:33):
actually got awarded there over Philly. I could have ended
up in Philly too, it would have been pretty cool.
But with that nothing, so I just played special teams
and then he goes and gets traded to Denver. And
it was like a week later they traded me to Denver.
So I'm like a man, I think Peyton actually likes
me a little bit, so that's pretty cool. So got there.
Peyton's I mean, he's he's the offensive coordinator on the field,
(14:53):
it is really what it was. I mean, the guy
next level, you know, kind of just having a coach
on the field, knows that everything. You know, if you
mess up, you're done. You know, if if a receiver
ran the wrong route, it was just like I, you know,
take that guy off the field and just don't even
put him back on. So you had to know what
was going on. You had to be ready for it.
And really he came out there, he installed his offense
and really quickly I realized that his offense is never
(15:16):
going to have a fullback in it. And I just
kind of went back to my role of just playing
all the special teams at that point. So I did
get one catch from him, got a first down, shot out.
You got the picture. Yeah, I got the same time
my Facebook page and the whole deal. So got got
one from Payton. That's all I got.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I want to talk about your transition from football. That's
why we do this podcast, is you know, getting to.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Hear about it.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And from from reading up on you, you said it
was easier than it was possibly for then what other
athletes probably struggled with?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Why was that the case for you?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah? I think so. Number one, because I never thought
I would make it past really half a year.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, I mean yeah, you were like, dude, in junior
I was a junior college due I didn't even think
about it.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I mean from day one, it was like, hey, you know,
if I get one year, that's huge. And then after
I got one, it was if I can get three
and get pinched and benefits, like that's that would be insane,
right right? So I ended up getting four credited and
it was like, man, this is this is unbelievable. So
from there I knew it was going to end pretty quickly.
So with that, I got kind of lucky because my
wife started a business my third year in Denver. And
(16:22):
so what business was that she had a personalization company
that she started online. Pretty much came down to the
fact that I was on a new team every single
season and she's like, this is this just sucks. Really.
What it comes down to is she had to go
on a job interview every year get a new job,
and she's like, I just want to find a way
to work from home. So that's where it came from.
Started handpating wineglasses and thought it was the stupidest thing
(16:45):
I've ever seen in my life. I've come home. She
had to bake them in the oven and take like
thirty minutes. She'd sell them for like fifteen bucks and
take her fifty minutes to make one. And I was like,
this is going to make a couple dollars. But at
least she's busy. This is cool. Pretty soon she started
having to scale it up. She bought like a cricket.
She started doing final those started selling like crazy. And
at the same time, I was three years my contract ended.
(17:06):
I was looking for a new contract, and I started
looking into it and I'm like, man, she's actually like,
this is a really good market here. So uh, I
took some of my money, started investigating too commercial grade
laser and gravers, and I started building the shop with her,
and you know, pretty soon, like it was, it was
raking at that point. So we're doing it off the
dining room table of her dad's house. And you have
this laser that actually, I mean it creates smoke because
(17:29):
it's lasering into wood and other materials, and we're blowing
it out the window of his kitchen. I'm like, man, yeah, whatever,
like this working man, this works. And we took over
his whole house inventory the whole deal, and ye, I
was making good money. And at that point, I then
I did sign with the Chargers. I signed a one
year with them, so I went there and the whole
time I was kind of like, man, I got this
(17:49):
cool thing going in the background, but I want, let's
get one more year. Yeah. Every year that money goes
up too, so it's like, I one more year. I
think it was like six forty was the minimum at
that point for four year player, So I'm like, man,
if I get six forty more in my bank account,
which is not it would really be like I was
in California, so it would have been like two.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Fifty uh Texas, but it were crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But with that, I was like, all right, one more
and I went into camp, got hurt, and then I
got released with the injury settlement. So I took that
and got a fourth season.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
So are you telling any of your teammates about your
other side hull so that you have with your wife
that's running out your father in laws like Kitten, That
was like, because I would not as a player, I'm like,
I mean, so I.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Did that for five years and I told nobody.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I actually within a year I was making more doing
that than I was playing in the NFL really and
doing that with my wife, and I didn't tell a
person like my teammates and friends started, you know, retiring
from the NFL or you know, walking away, and at
that point they're like, hey, man, like, what do you
what do you do now? I'm like, oh, you know,
I'm kind of just doing my thing over here, man, like,
you know, kind of whatever. I went to tell them, and
(18:52):
they're like, it's like, what do you like what do
you do every day? Though? And you know, I kind
of just do this thing like with my wife that
she does, but I didn't really explain. It was mostly
like wedding gifts. So it was like brides made groomsmen
gifts for weddings, and we customized items. I kind of
made like the mail version shop. I had like pocket
knives and flash and stuff like that. She kind of
had the girly side with like tumblers and like cutting
(19:14):
boards and stuff like that. And we created two competing
sites and it really taught me how to just do
e commerce for the most part. Yeah, so really figured
it out, how to how to build it, how to
source product, how to market, how to fulfill customer service,
the whole deal. And I did that for about five
years with my wife, and then at that point five years,
I was going really a lot of people started calling
and they were all like kind of leaving the NFL
(19:36):
at that point, and they're like, man, what do you do? Hey?
I couldn't answer that question. I realized that, you know,
this is doing really well, but this is not me. Like,
you know, I grew up my dad owns a fitness
equipment company. You know, I played sports my whole life.
I'm into fitness, Like, how do I get back into
that world? And that was kind of the question on
my mind at that point.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
So then you come up with the eye shaker, wor
did that? Where did that idea? Where that concept come from?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So they kind of man kind of originated from my
wife's business. So a lot of people were coming in.
They're bringing different cups in and they were saying, hey,
can you customize this? And the one that exploded at
that time in twenty sixteen was the Yettie cup. So
they just had the thirty ounce tumblr I didn't want
one because we were selling them about one hundred fifty
bucks apiece every time we personalized them. And we're just
(20:23):
flying through. You were selling single YETI personalized one hundred
and fifty bucks. So I was hustling, like I was
going to like every academy, calling them every week, saying like, hey,
when's your next yetti shipman? Come in? All right, just
leave them all in the box. I'll come buy them
at full retail and they're like okay, and I'd show
up and they just leave them the box. I'd take
hundreds at a time, or however many they would give me,
bring them back to our shop. We put them online,
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and we selling them one hundred fifty bucks apiece e commerce.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
All right, go back, go back, answer peanuts question. I
got distracted with.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I was processing as you were talking.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I was like forty bucks each. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he
buy them for forty and then we customize them and
resell them, yeah for more.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I ain't mad at it.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
No, I mean that's what people were paying.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
So yeah, So explain to so I saw you on
Shark Tank, but explain to the viewer and to our
listeners that have not seen that, what exactly Ice Shaker is,
the concept behind it and why you started it.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah for sure. So we're here in Dallas it was
like one hundred five degrees out during the summer. I
think it was July at the time, and I was
going to the gym. You I'd actually use this insulated
cup at work and that go home and I grab
a plastic shaker because that's all that was out there
at that time, fill it up, you know, BCA's or water,
whatever it was, and go to the gym. By the
time I got there was sweating. I was making little
(21:45):
sweat rings on the ground. And I'm like, man, there's
this technology out there, but I can't shake or mix
anything in it. I don't. I just create something that can.
So that was the whole idea. It's the stupidest, simplest
idea that no one's ever done. So I figured I'd
go online and just buy one, went home, jump on Amazon,
nothing out there, googled it, nothing out there, and it's
kind of like, I, you know, this is kind of
my way back into fitness and sports and you know,
(22:07):
kind of doing what I like to do. I'm going
to jump on this, So I did. I ended up
ordering ten thousand units was my initial order. Were already
sourcing product and I was already doing that with my
wife's company, so I kind of already knew how to
do it, got the products, thought it was going to
be the easiest selling the world. Posted on Twitter at
the time because that's all that was out there, had
like thirty thousand followers, and I'm like, man, this is
going to blow up. And I sold two bottles the
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first week, and I was like, we got a problem here.
So that's how it all started though, and then from
there it was kind of just how do I get sales?
You know, I kind of followed the same routine that
I did with my wife. We did it on Etsy.
I went to Amazon, figured out how to rank at
the top, how to get reviews, product photos, the whole deal,
started ranking up there, and then started doing local shows.
So it was kind of like the bodybuilding shows at first,
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the local ones. People were there and you know.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You got to go to the gym bros.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Right, Yeah, Like they're all in there, a small body
building show, so guy, this is the place to start.
And it was just it was just sitting there and
talking people down in an aisle and having them grab
our bottle and grab a plastic one and saying, you know, hey,
there's ice in this one. And they're like, there's no way,
you know, there's no way there's ice in it. They'd
open it up, there's ice in it, keep it cold
for thirty plus hours, and it was like, I need
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this cup and we just started selling a ton of cups.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
What's what I want to know is so that was
that was a shark tank experience, right.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That was the very beginning.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That was the beginning.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
You can ask about his shark tank experience. Nope, Nope,
you're not gonna ask them.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I want you to ask them.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Oh well, let's talk about it. I want to know
because it's a TV show.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
So and you had all your brothers there with you, yep.
I mean you guys came out. Did it helps the
whole broft?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You got chess bumps?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah yeah, a couple of chess buff flip cup yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
They played flip cup with the with the with the
the shark, and it was good. It was a great production.
It got us excited about it. Whether we thought the
product worked or not, we were excited. And did you know, like,
all right, what was the game plan going into it?
I saw the number you were like ten percent for
one hundred thousand yep. You ended up getting giving away
(24:09):
fifteen percent for one hundred and fifty thousand. Fine, what
was the game plan for you? Like, all right, what
do I want to come out of here with? And
then like, how are we going to sell this?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah? For sure? So for me, we're only six months
in on the company at that point. Uh. At that point,
you know, I just got it six months before that.
I'm hustling, I'm doing shows, I'm doing whatever I can
to get my sales up as high as possible, so
I could go on there and ask for a million
dollar evaluation, right. Uh. But my game plan was really
like I want I want a deal. You know, this
was a side hustle for me. I was doing this
when I got home after work, and the wife's business
(24:40):
was doing more than enough to support us at that point,
so I was like, man, I got nothing to lose, right,
so let's go on here, let's actually try to get
a deal and let's lock something up.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
So how did you first? How did you get on?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So it came from my agent actually emailed. It was
twenty twelve. I was with the Broncos. It was just
an email saying, you know, the show was looking for
any current or former NFL players. For them, it was
a way for them to grow their audience. So they're
trying to get players. There's players that go on there
all the time, in different celebrities as well, and all
they're really trying to do is get more people to
watch the show, so they're reaching out. I knew that.
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I knew I had an advantage. I didn't have to
go to the trade show or like the whole deal
that a lot of people have to go to, and
I got to skip all those steps. I actually hit
them back. It was almost five years later. It was
twenty seventeen when I hit them back. So I got
the email in twenty twelve, five years later. I wrote
back to it and they answered.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Like I just got this. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah. The girls like I don't even work there anymore,
but she passed me off to the one that does,
and they were like, yeah, we'll like just make a video.
So I'm sitting there like I got to make a video.
I gotta make this good. So I did the whole video,
like working out, ripping my shirt off. I'm throwing in
like the clips of my one touchdown, getting Rob in there,
and I'm like, yo, Rob, I need you in this
video for a minute, right, like just you know, chug
(25:54):
out of this bottle, like scream into the camera. And
so he made this video, send it in and just unlisted.
I'm like on YouTube and you just wait. And it's
like five days later, I saw there's five views on it.
They called and they're like, man, that video is awesome,
Like it's five views, yeah, they like five, Well, it's unlisted,
so like five producers watched it or whatever. So then
from there like it's you know, it's months actually, like
(26:16):
it's a ton of paperwork. And then they want to
get you ready for the moment because they wanted to
actually be a good production. Yeah, they wanted to look
good on TV because enough people get on there and
they freeze. Yeah, they have enough content of bad materials.
So they want you to actually you know, be prepared
and and you know, know your numbers and put on
a good presentation. So went back and forth with you know,
the producers of the show so that you were ready
(26:37):
for that moment. And then uh, as soon as they
asked if all my brothers would be on the show,
I was like, all right, it's a done deal now,
like I'm going to be on the show for sure.
So I got them all in. They maybe flying first
class man, and that was my biggest business expense at
that time, so I was kind of pissed about it.
They each were like two thousand dollars flights and I
had to fly them all in that night. But got there,
(26:57):
they hit them. They actually the show is, I mean,
it's legit, so they don't know anything beside your name
when you walk out there. They had no idea. They
didn't know the name of the product, didn't know the
name of the family. They had no idea my brothers
were there. They got there, they hit them in the back,
so the producers didn't even see my brothers there. And
then like when they ran out on the stage, like
that was a real reaction. Yeah. Yeah, I think Mark
might have known who they were, but I don't think
(27:18):
anyone else even had any idea what was going on.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
They did not, of course with the show.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Mark, even as you started going, Mark's like, hey, look
to our audience for somebody that doesn't know, this is
the gron Colci because the female I forget her name.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So we had Lori on there, and then we.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Had Barbara Yeah as well, and she was like, oh
my gosh, you guys are so accomplished. She had no idea,
so it was just really cool how it all kind
of came out on.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
TV for sure. So I mean, real deal, real pitch,
real money.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Rob actually didn't know his real money. He's like, he's like, so, like,
what'd you win? I was like, man, I was like, no,
like legitimately invested in the company. But yeah, I mean
it went from then, you know, eighty thousand and sales
in the first six months to over the next twelve
months we did over three million in sales.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So they really helped you, like boost it. So you
really do get exposure day exposure.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah. So I mean if you go on there, you
have a good presentation, you have a product that's easy
to buy for consumer, which we did, and then you
get offers from all five it's kind of this buying
signal to everyone that's watching too. Yeah this product. So
the exposures massive five million people watching it, and then
it's really like it's an ultimate pitch for me. You're
watching eight minutes of me pitching a product to you
and you're like, oh, that is pretty cool. I'm to
(28:29):
buy it. So it's super valuable. We have reruns all
the time, and it still you know, hits our site
and we get a couple thousand views to a site
and you know, our sales spike every time. Still so
great experience. Uh, you know that wave then goes and
keeps going and people watching Hulu and it lasts for
about two months, and then after that you're like, man,
I got to actually figure out how to run a
business now at this point. So that worked all the
(28:51):
way we are at October, went right through the holidays,
and then really January ends up being New Year's Resolution,
and then after that in February, it was kind of
my like moment where I've realized I need to know,
you know, kind of figure out what to do here.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, how did so when you sold it? Who all
did you pitch it.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
To or not? Scuby?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I know you pitched everyone. Which person gave you the
best option as far as who you want to partner with?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So we had we had Alex Rodriguez as a guest
on the show, and then I wanted Mark because you know,
just the the sports aspect of it, and he was
in Dallas as well, so goal was Mark. When they
have a guest that seems like they try to get
the guest in on a deal as fast as possible,
because that's kind of the point of him being on
the show.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Hey Rod jumped in, So yeah, Mark, that was right away.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Mark was like, I'll do it if Alex does it,
and you kind of realized really quickly, like this is
the part that's made for TV. You know, we got
to get this guest in on it as well. So
I didn't know anything about Alex or really anything he
was doing, because that was the first time he was
on the show, and you know, there wasn't really much
information on there about him, so I didn't know if
would be good or bad at that point. But to me,
it was just get a deal and let's see what happens.
(29:55):
Because it's it's not my main source income anyways. This
is kind of a you know, the side also that
hopefully just explodes.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
So do you have a relationship or entering or do
you have any interactions with Mark Cuban.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
So right away realize that, you know, this was season
nine when I went on, Mark had a full team
built out. It was Mark Cuban Companies. You signed me
an advisor immediately, and then you know, Really, it's the
advisor that's helping you out. That's the guy in the trenches.
That's the guy that's working with all the companies all
the time. You know, Mark's not going to dig in
on a seventy five thousand dollars investment and you know
put his time and effort into it. So this guy
(30:28):
was assigned to us. You know, I could ask anything
and super early on like I was all over them,
you know, like, how do how do I advertise on Facebook?
You know? Should I do text messaging? Who's doing this? Well?
Can you connect me with the Good Morning America? Can
you get me on QBC? And you get me in GNC?
And this is all things that they were able to
help with right off the bat.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Thanks. So this is what I want to know at
the beginning that I was not going.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
To do for all.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Right here it is ready, here it comes. How do
you do it?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
How do you get the licensing for the teams? Not
only that I care less about the teams. I thought
it was cool because you know, a Rod was there,
and then I heard one of your brothers or maybe
you like, dude, we got NBA and MLB and so
you also have licensing with both of those because you
can get the ice shaker with your favorite team, all teams,
(31:16):
all teams, all leagues. But I'm more important with what
me and Jay are talking about. How you get Dragon
ball z.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
My guys, that's a secret one right there.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
That's the killing the moment that was I'm like, oh, bro,
I'm in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
It's crazy because i mean the sports teams are super popular. Yes,
they're hard to get to the one the hard the
hardest one against the NFL, yes, of course, so we
were able to get the smaller ones. N C DOUAA
is super easy. Uh, you still have to figure out
They fill out all the paperwork and then you got
to pay all the royalties and it's it's not fun.
You gotta track it all. You gotta submit all the
reports quarterly or monthly, depending on how much you're selling.
(31:48):
But uh, NFL is tough to get. I mean you're
paying a six figure royalty up front, Like, man, that's
that's tough. And then they're limiting you to a certain category.
And for us with shaker only, and you know, we
sell drugs, we sell time, we saw cups and they're like,
we'll give you Shaker only. You got to pay six
figures up front. I'm like, man, that's that's tough. Their
machine and they want to make the most money as possible.
(32:09):
You know, Jerry, Jerry knows how to do it. Is
with that, we actually went to a licensing show. I
met another group that already had the license and they
were looking for a bottle. Uh, so we actually partnered
up with them and then uh they were able to
use their license and bring our product in and license
it for us in the sports world connection. From that
same show, then we know we we met the dragon
(32:29):
ball Z's Ice is another one that we just launched.
That's pretty cool. You take an iconic logo like icy
that's been around for fifty plus years and you put
it on a bottle and we sold out in thirty days.
I was like, man, that's pretty cool. Bigley choose another
one that we'll probably have coming here too. But kind
of just take these iconic logos and you put them
on a bottle.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And so you've met dragon ball Z people.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Just know it's not it's not actually the dragon ball
Z people. It's all through licensing companies is what you're
going to actually work with. So okay, yeah, you're not yeah,
like you're you're working with someone you know. We had
a ask Yeah, yeah, well I just didn't know, but
just trust me. Me and my man Jay we were like,
I'm like, Jay, they got dragon ball Z. And what
(33:10):
we found out really quickly is like the smaller niche
ones kind of like you know, like a dragon ball
Z that no one's really tapped into. Those ones are
the ones that crushed for us.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I mean Joe Guy just saying if.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I might have to start looking that up. It is.
It's a little hard to figure out who you got
to talk to and how to get it, and then
you are paying royalties and you're paying upfront royalties too.
So uh. But the benefit is is that somebody that's
a dragon ball Z fan that doesn't care about working
out or even know who the Gradkowski brothers are the product,
they're still going to buy it. Yes, And now you
just introduce yourself to an entire new audience that would
(33:41):
have never seen your product.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Otherwise, at what point does it make sense for you
guys to make the deal versus a passing Because you're saying,
like six figure up front? This one was this one
like in your mind when you're you're running it. What
what is the point that's like, I won't cross.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It's tough. I mean a hundred hundred K stuff, I
can tell you. Yeah, we try to. We try to
survey it out and then we'll also sometimes try to
just put up your test to see we have the
ability to custom engrave ourselves. So we did with dragon
Ball because I had no idea and everyone kept telling me, yo,
this is huge, Like you can do it. We can
print on demand, so we could actually print on demand.
We could test it first and if it sells, then
(34:21):
we can we can go all in on it.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And how do you test it? You just like print
like ten twelve maybe and if.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's a secret sauce, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
So you can do that sometimes, Like you could even
put up a listing and you know, put ten on
it and then say it sold out and refund everyone. Yeah,
I got that's a way to kind of test it
without actually bringing the product in yet. I got you.
Oh man, sorry, already sold out?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, no worries. I want to know. So I'm a
military military bret myself with my dad serving shout out pops,
thank you for your service. What's the connection between your
company and veterans.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, for sure. I guess really that all started college.
We went to Fort Wachuka at Arizona, and then the
NFL does a great job with connecting you as well
with the military, So from there I think that connection
was kind of there. Rob would visit a ton of
bases as well. He do pro camps at bases, and
then he worked with USO too, and then he works
with USAA, So there's kind of just this whole NFL
(35:18):
military connection. And then from that, the company and the
product itself just related to military members. You know, they're
working out, they're always active, they need water. So from
day one, we kept getting people reaching out and just saying, hey,
can you guys send care packages? And I always said yes.
Came to the point then like once you sent a
couple care packages out and people find out, then like
(35:39):
the floods right, like everyone starts asking for him. So
I kept saying yes, And at that point I realized, like, man,
I'm getting crushed on this, Like how do I continue
to do this but fund it? So we then created
a program where we created bottles that were military themed
and then everyone that was purchased, we donated one to
active military. At that point, we had a partner operated
(36:00):
Supply Drop. They would send them all out for us,
because the most expensive part by far was shipping shipping,
because you're shipping too, I mean around the world, and
you're shipping with really just the post office the only
one that will send it there, and it takes forever.
It's really expensive. And so they came in and they
funded that they had like the like the aircraft routes,
or they had a way to get it to them
without going through the post office, which was great. So
(36:22):
that also helped us just vet the people was going
to because we found out really quickly too that people
would ask for it and then they'd get it and
they just resell it. They'd be like, hey, man, I
got a hundred guys in my squad, can you send
one hundred bottles out? They get it and they won't
give it to anyone. They just keep it or sell
it or whatever. So we did a lot of that
and then yeah, it got to the point where we
were donated thousands of bottles to that program. We lost
(36:43):
that partner, so then instead we transitioned now to a
program on our website where you can pick from different
military foundations that you could donate one percent of your
sale from that we actually give the money back for.
So that's that's where we're at at this point. But
always trying to support as much as we can. Yeah,
there's a bunch of different foundations that we make products
for and then we donate the money back to them
on those those products as well. Like that sweet? All right?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
So what's next for you guys? What's next for ice
shaker Man? We got what's Yeah, what's next?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Still? More licensing's coming. We have all the Marvel stuff now,
which is pretty cool. I saw that. So we have
a lot, I mean a lot of characters there that
we haven't even touched yet. Even dragon Ball, we haven't
touched all of them. No, you have none. We have
a lot left there. I did like trunks though, I
appreciate that. Yeah, and we can make those full colored
as well. Sal has been a good sealer for us
as well. But with that, a lot of licensing left
(37:34):
and then just new products. We're always trying to create
new stuff. I think there's a huge niche in youth sports.
I got three boys now, I play and coach way
too much baseball and the flag football at this point.
So realize that you know that market. People want swag
like they want their kids, right, so we could customize,
We customize bottles, names, numbers, logos, the whole deal. We
turn in three to five business days. So that's a
(37:55):
huge market for us as well. You know, you have
a half gallon jug. It's one hundred degrees out today.
Kids have to have water on the field. And then
you know the moms are just gonna pimp them out
as much as possible. So realize really quickly, find the
team mom, put up an ad or let her know
about the product, and you know that's that's twelve jugs
sold almost immediately.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
It's crazy how much money parents spend.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
On care baseball bat now. I mean they just released
the new ones for five hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I was gonna say three, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
The latest bat that came out this week. I saw
three people with yesterday five hundred bucks. You know, older
and how old are these kids unless I mean ten,
ten or younger?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yeah, you know, you know, my wife had the great idea.
She wanted to do what uh the with the torpedo bat?
Oh yeah, yeah, She's like I'm gonna give I'm like
this dude ain't even hitting it in the outfield all the.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Time, Like, why are we trying to get a torpedo bat.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
You're gonna get a wood bat.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
No, he did.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
They got the battle with torpedoes already.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I don't think so, I don't think. I think she's
just making up in her head. She just saw it.
But the torpedo bat's a new phenomenon. Well it's been
around forever, but they it's just the.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
First time I've seen it. Yeah, I mean that's I'm
sure there's gonna be metal one soon.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah, it'll be interesting that probably right.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I'll buy last year's model though.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Well, Chris Man, I you you've got a great family,
and this would be interesting to hear this answer. But
mount Rushmore of influence, the people that have poured them
to you to help you achieve and get to this
person that we see right here in front of us today.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You got four Who would those four people be?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, for sure, Mom and Dad for sure on that one.
I mean I would say too, okay, just completely different
sides of it. You have Dad, who was you know,
on sports and and and really the phys big sports guy,
just like I mean, never pushed it on us, but
if we did it, we had to do it. And
then it was kind of like how do we take
you to the next level. That's where the whole his
(39:49):
whole fitness equipment company came from. It was I want
to buy equipment for all five boys. That's going to
be you know, good equipment that's gonna last. And he
actually started an entire business because he couldn't find equipment
for us. So with that, like he was, you know,
he was working, and he was a supporter. And then
my mom was one, you know, all day, every day
taking care of us. And that's like five boys, feeding
(40:10):
us every meal, like not a lot of money. So
kind of just scrapped it and just sewing, sewing sweatpants
back together and socks.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Like how much did y'all break?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, So our house pretty much had nothing in it.
So we had a couch and she had a rocking
chair for the baby. And then like if you walked in,
people were like, do you guys live here? Because there
was nothing on the walls, like no pictures, nothing like
that really hung, no decorations. It was a couch and
a rocking chair. And then like those old TVs, you know,
like the big box TV. That's all we had. So
(40:43):
outside of that, like there was no decorations. Everything was
just a weapon if it was there or it was broken.
So that was that was kind of it. Our house
couldn't sell, Like she tried to sell our house after
we're done with it, and everyone was like, man, this
thing is destroyed. Everything had to be replaced.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I'm not wild, no, no, no that like that. We definitely
have it with five boys and they're not small boys.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
And like we were the neighborhood too, Like we were
the house everyone came over to. So it wasn't just
us five, it was like us five and then everybody
had a friend or two or three friends. There's like
ten people there every time came over.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
So Mom and dad, you got two more.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, Mom and dad, for sure. That's tough man. I mean,
definitely had some good coaches along the way. But outside
of that, I would put the brothers in there more
than anyone else because it was always which brothers say,
you know I was. I was with Rob throughout college,
so really probably the closest, we're closest in age and
(41:40):
that I was with my older brother Dan as well. So, uh,
first two years at Maryland was with my brother Dan,
the more responsible one. You know, that's kind of where
I got the responsibility from. And yeah uh and then
you know, the party in aspect was then the second
two years of college with my brother Rob, so having
a good time there and really just working hard, you
know that, and pushing each other to the next level.
I think that's kind of where that came from.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Trust me. I love my Thursday nights in college too.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
They were good, man, those were good times. Fridays were tough.
Saturday I just didn't care, man, I was just throw
your head down and try to put it under someone's chin.
So it worked out.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Absolutely absolutely, Chris. Appreciate you, man.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, thanks for having me. This is thanks for coming
all the way in town to see me.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
No doubt, bro. Just for you, yeah, man, just for you, dog.
This was awesome. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Man.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
I'm gonna probably have to go ahead and invest in
a couple of ice.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
If you nice. Dragon Ball man, let me know.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I'm totally going to get a couple of Dragon BALLO
you telling you right now that.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
From my youngest right now. She's a big Dragon Ball
anime kind of person.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
So it's still going like it's still like the younger
generation still going with Dragon Ball.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
And it came out when I was in high school.
It hit in America. It had already been out in
Japan for years. It hit in America when I was
in high school in the early two thousands, and you
still have the young people, like you said.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Right now, I was watching it like ninety eight ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
So where do you watch it? So to answer the question,
who licenses actually a crunchy roll? Is that also where
they watch it? They watch it through country role.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
So my brother did that, but you it's a it's
an app called It's slipped my mind right now, it's dude,
it's got it. You have to actually have an app
to watch You have to have an app to watch it.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
You can actually go back and watch all the episodes.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
You're not like playing it still on.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
No, I was a cartoon network guy when that's originally
watched it back in the day.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, I think me too, one of those. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
And and now then they released movies every now and then,
like they just had a movie or two like a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yeah those are big. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
So but back to you, thank you. I appreciate it. Man,
you're gonna be successful in everything you do. We could
just tell I mean you're naturally an entrepreneur, or go
get her. I mean you were hustling and didn't tell
nobody for years. That's your wife's They don't post that.
(43:59):
You tell nobody, just so what you been doing.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
That's how you know. Somebody on it's like get in
it done, man, you know, and you're shaking your head like, yeah,
you know, I'm just kind.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Of you know, just tell them the secret. Either man
may try to come after you know.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
That's smart. I like it.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
I love it all.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Appreciate you coming on with the podcast, like room saying, man,
you you strike me as a guy. Whatever you do,
you will be successful. So I wish nothing but the
best for wish nothing but the best for you, and
I look forward to seeing what your next adventure is.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Appreciate you guys, man, no doubt. Man.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
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What's up everybody on Peanut Tillman and this is the
NFL Player's Second Act podcast and with me, as always
my trusty co hosts Lavender, Roman Harper. What's up baby,
I'm doing good. Really excited about our next guest.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Guest.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I know, but I have not got to talk to
this gentleman before.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
He's got a great background, a great history, comes from
a crazy athletic family.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I actually got it.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I'm gonna give him a rundown of what happens when
I ask my kids the first thing that comes to
mind about the last name of his family.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Played fullback in the NFL for four different teams. He
is a member of the Gronkowski family, and now he
is the CEO and creator of a ice Shaker.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Brandy.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Chris Gonkowski to the part.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
There we go? What sha you man? Yeah? For sure?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
All right, Chris, Yeah, I gotta so.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
First thing, so I told my children I was interviewing
uh A Gronkowski, Chris Gonkowski, And they said, I said,
what is the first thing that comes to mind when
you hear the word Gronkowski?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Number one?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
They said, athletic.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I'll take that. You know, I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Me neither.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I was not expecting that either. But that's what they said.
They said athletic like. Then my daughter said big. It's
like okay, then you know what I mean. Then my
son said strong, right, all right, you know what I mean.
And so these are the words kids ask them what
they think about it when they hear me my name,
(01:49):
now that thing they call you?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
What is it peel to have everybody their first thought process?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And these are younger people.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
My kids are thirteen to five, and so these are
the mindset when they hear Gronkowski. They connect you all
to these great words that you like, these these great adjectives.
There's still words, but more descriptive is adjective to describe
you guys.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, that I mean. It's good to be a role model,
for sure. Yes, you know a lot of times I
hear different descriptions. So it's good to know that the
younger kids, they don't relate it. It's in a different
way at this point. So I think a lot of
that has helped with like the Nickelodeon shows and stuff
like that that my brother has been on, where they
see him in a light that's a little different than
(02:36):
other people have seen him that a little older throughout
his party in days. So yeah, man, that's that's awesome.
And I got four kids myself now, so I love
that that is how they see us at this point.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
And how does it feel to have four out of
the five of you guys play professional sports. I'm sure
your parents are you've heard that probably many times.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
My dad's told everyone that he's met over the last
ten years, every person he sat next to on an airplane.
I think they know the whole story at this point.
But pretty cool. My oldest brother still thinks he could
have played tight end. He was too scared to play football.
He actually never played ever in no way baseball. Yeah,
he's uh, he's about six six now. He claims he's
the tallest brother now, but he was smaller in high school.
(03:18):
He was like one eighty and came out on the
varsity football team. My second oldest brother, Dan, threw him
a pass hit his hands. He said it hurt his
hands and he quit that day. And so his tight
end dreams that day ended on a pass that hurt
his hands. But he still thinks he could have played football.
But I don't think.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So, Okay, what's the best thing about so I have?
I have one older brother and close. You know, he
used to beat the shit out of me as a kid,
you know, I wanted to and not until I was
until my sophomore year I beat my brother and I
was like, Yo, I've arrived. I've actually made it. I
can beat my older brother. What is it like having
four brothers? Like, what's the best part about having four brothers?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I mean, that's what That's what we did all day
every day too. The best part is just it brings
I think it brings the best out of you. You know,
I got to play with him in high school, I
got to play with them in college. And then I
think because I played with my brother in college and
we had a reputation for having a good time, I
don't think they let me play with them in the
NFL at least Bill belichicked in it. So but with that,
(04:19):
like when you were in that room, you were watching film,
all you wanted to do was impress your brother, right, absolutely,
so you had to go when you had to light
up some guy or you know, you had to flap
back someone whatever it was, and then you had to
go in the film room and you had to be like, hey,
don't take a piss in the next five place. You
got to see something and show them what's up, right,
So I think it just took us, not only on
the field, but in the weight room. Yeah, you know,
(04:39):
during springs, everything was you know, this is my younger brother,
I got to beat him in everything. This is my
older brother. I got to try to beat him and
everything too. So, uh, in the weight room, you know,
we excelled. You know, in speed training we excelled. And
then on the field, same thing. And it's pretty cool
because I got to play next to my brother a
lot too. I was kind of a wing, kind of
full back positioned, and uh, you know he was a
(05:01):
tight end. He run down the middle and take two
guys in coverage. I'd be wide open. So I averaged
like thirty yards to catch my junior year when my
brother was on the field.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
So what kind offense were you guys? Weren't you you
said a wing? So it wasn't a wing tea, was it?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No? It was they were just using me more as
kind of just everything position. Okay, it wasn't a you know,
a true tight end. I was too small, but uh,
in college you could kind of get away with it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So yeah, okay, okay, what's the worst thing about having
four brothers?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
The worst thing is that they can't tell us apart
for the most party, which is it's good and bad.
But so I get called like land a lot because
we're the same height. That's Maria's brother. Uh, and then
you kind of all just get lumped into the same thing.
And this point, you know, at the beginning, how you
talked about all these great terms, right right, it was awesome,
but a lot of times that those are those aren't
the terms I hear, and I get bumped in with
(05:48):
those other terms which I don't really think fit my
description that well. Right right, So, like.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
What term is that you tell me a term that
you like, bro, that's just not.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Even yeah, I mean it, you know when they say, like,
y know, they're not that smart, right, actually I'll fight
back on that even you know, for my brother as well,
you know, twenty years old, get a couple million dollars, right,
this guy just didn't change, nothing changed, didn't spend the money,
just responsible with everything, And like, to me, that's like smart,
(06:19):
that's very smart, extremely and a lot of people see that,
and you know, they get paid and they go have
a really good time and do things that you shouldn't
be doing. And uh, I think he was one of
the most responsible players I've seen, especially with that kind
of money.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, so, how did you end up undrafted on a
Cowboys roster in twenty ten? You were undrafted? I mean,
let's be honest. I saw your stat line in college.
It didn't blow me away.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah you don't. What about those yards per catch man
all eight of them?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And I think you had like what two carries?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, I had a couple carries. The stat line wasn't great. Yeah. Yeah.
I went into college hoping I could get a scholarship.
I didn't so I didn't have to pay for college.
You know. I was still my junior year going out
on Thursday Nights party and like, yeah, the chance of
playing in the NFL for me, I thought was pretty
much a zero. So I was gonna go to school.
I was gonna get the best degree I could. I
went into the business school. I got a degree in accounting.
(07:19):
I was like, man, well I can leave and be
a CPA and make some good money, right, Yes, So
after my junior year, it was really about have a
great time, go on the field, just try to knock
out someone every play. That was kind of a goal.
And about halfway through the season, my running back coach
was like, Hey, there's some teams talking about you, and
I'm like, they got me mixed up with my brother, right,
(07:39):
So they're watching a lot of his film. I would
appear in some of it. I had a couple of
good games and that was the point where they're like,
you have a chance, right, So I went into my
senior year. Actually got hurt in the offseason and tore
my hammy. Came back the first day of practice tour
it again, played through it the whole year, couldn't really run.
It was kind of like, you know, if I get
a chance, I'll go to Pro Day. But I'm not
getting invited to the Combine. But you know, if I
(08:00):
get that chance, I'm gonna take it. So got that chance,
and then it was kind of like, all right, my
brother Rob just got drafted second round. My oldest brother
got drafted in the minor leagues of baseball, see went
later in the rounds. My second oldest brother got drafted
to the Lions. So I'm sitting there like, man, I
already know the story. Now. If I don't make a team,
you're the worst I'm gonna hear about it. Like how
are you the only one in the whole family that
(08:21):
didn't make it? Right? So I kind of had this
mentality like, you know, there's no option here, like I
have to make a team at this point, And that
was kind of what happened. I was lucky enough to
then get paired up with a college roommate from Maryland
before I transferred to Arizona ended up being my roommate and
we kind of both undrafted. Was kind of like, hey, man, yeah,
let's do this. Let's make this team. That's cool.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So when you came to Dallas, what was your first
in person Jerry Jones? Because he's got this really big personality,
you know, you know, being the owner of the GM
you know, very the successful entrepreneur.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I mean they called the stadium Jerry World. Let's just
be honest, this is they don't call anybody else's stamm.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
After is he like hiding around the He's definitely not
allowed to say anything I.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Want to say.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But like, what was your first and person off?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I mean, my whole thing with him was everyone made
it seem like he was always there and always in
your face, and that that wasn't the case. You know,
he'd be at some practices, but he wasn't in the
meeting rooms. You know, you weren't seeing him on a
daily basis or anything like that. You always he would
be there for big events or Christmas parties, and you know,
in the locker room after games. But outside of that,
(09:31):
it wasn't anything different than anywhere else I played at.
You know, that's a great point.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I do think the outside world he was like, man,
Jerry's hands is all on the team. He's down there
probably drawing up place. Everybody probably feels that way, so
I appreciate you sharing that. It's like, no, he's kind
of just like every other owner. He just you know,
he just sells the Star better than everybody else sells
their taps.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
He sells the team better than anybody, not even the Star.
He sells the team then any other owner.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
That was the big That's what I thought. The big
difference was in Dallas was the media. I mean, anyone
was allowed pretty much full access in Dallas. You know,
you went in that locker room there was insane amount
of reporters from everywhere, from sources you never heard before.
And you know, I really asking questions that really had
nothing to do with football either. And you know, once
I left Dallas, and I thought that was normal because
(10:20):
it's the first team I played for. But once I
left there, I realized really quickly that that's not the norm.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's a great boy. I want to know what You're
welcome to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Moment was man, my first game I started, I would say,
you know, I'm lining up my handshaking. I got Brian
Urlacker lined up across from me, and I'm running an
iceo up the middle, and I'm like, here we go.
You actually completed that play? He was, I mean, he
was later in his career, and I'm thinking, like, this
huge hit, right, He's not going to go in there
and throw his head in there, because guys that make
(10:52):
it fifteen years don't do that anymore at that point.
So really it was Lance Briggs, Arizona guy, and I'm like, man,
I know those guys from Arizona, but man, why is
he trying to kill me every play? And so like
it was like two plays later, I go against him.
We both just smashing each other the whole game, and
I'm like, God, this this is really the this is
the real welcome right here. And I swear he had
(11:12):
my number, that he was just coming for me the
whole game. But I ended up scoring a touchdown that game,
so it was kind of like, man, like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What do you remember about the touchdown? Do you remember
what that that play was?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah? It was like a spider five and uh, I
actually I was supposed to run at the d N
and kind of give him a little juke like I
was gonna hit him, but I saw that the flat
was wide open, so I ran out there absolutely let
my running back get destroyed.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Oh my god. Julius Peppers.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, it was Julius Peppers and Marion Barbara to
block him. Uh. It was a tough block for him
and for anybody. It was wide open though, and I
got the catch, So it's pretty cool outside of that.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Got the catch, got a nice little spike. What did
you feel when you as soon as you called it?
Because I looked at the replay. I was covering Jason
Whitte on that play. I fell down, thank god, and
he didn't throw it to my guy.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You're welcome that. I just you know, ran out there
and said, I appreciate you, thank you, because if I
actually did my job the right way, I might might
have got the ball.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But it looked like you, like you caught him.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
It was just like I was super hype man. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
The coolest part though, was like all your teammates, like
the linemen are all coming over and they're just heating
in the back and you're.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Just like, I mean, I just never thought that would
happened for me. And growing up that was kind of
like what you did in the backyard, right, Yeah, this
spike down and then you get.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
In college like oh, you can't can't do anything.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You can't do college is to wait all those years
and then have some you know, miracle moment happened, and
I never thought would happened, So I was I was
just really excited for it. Chris.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
You don't feel bad because the first time I scored
a touchdown, you know, like you said, your whole life,
you have these like I'm gonna celebrate, I'm ana dance,
I'm gonna do all these things, and then you finally
make and you're like, I'm just so excited, and then
I like for me, I scored, and then I was like,
oh shoot, I get to celebrate, Like I already started
running back. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, get
(13:02):
away from you guys. That'll let me, let me get
my shine on and then we can celebrate.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Is this the league? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
You got a touch down?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, a couple. It's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
You don't strike me as a scorer.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, I played defense, so.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
We got ten of them.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm just saying double digits, just throwing it out there anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I got one. Yeah, I got ten, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, he's got one. I got two.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Fight, give me two.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Good. Fine.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So twenty twelve, you make it to Denver. You're playing
with but you're playing with Peyton. How was it going
from Tony Romo to playing with Peyton Manning man?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Peyton Peyton's because that was a year offers injury too,
so he said a good year too.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So I went from I went from Dallas to Indy first. Yeah,
and then that was kind of the year where it
was just a mix of everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Was that the the one year when it's.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
A great year? I went thirteen?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
We started Yeah, yeah, the one year when you guys
they were struggle busting.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, so we started with Curtis Painter and then we
went through a bunch of different quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
At that point, but it was like Chicago every year.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, okay, I was the first guy I guess really
in the Peyton Mann era at the full back position.
So I got there. They gave me a playbook and
had six plays in it, and I was like, man,
this is the easiest playbook I've ever seen in my life.
So I literally had nothing, and it was kind of like, hey,
we don't know if Peyton's gonna play yet or not,
so you know, if he doesn't play, we need some
run game. So that's why I ended up there. Got
(14:33):
actually got awarded there over Philly. I could have ended
up in Philly too, it would have been pretty cool.
But with that nothing, so I just played special teams
and then he goes and gets traded to Denver. And
it was like a week later they traded me to Denver.
So I'm like a man, I think Peyton actually likes
me a little bit, so that's pretty cool. So got there.
Peyton's I mean, he's he's the offensive coordinator on the field,
(14:53):
it is really what it was. I mean, the guy
next level, you know, kind of just having a coach
on the field, knows that everything. You know, if you
mess up, you're done. You know, if if a receiver
ran the wrong route, it was just like I, you know,
take that guy off the field and just don't even
put him back on. So you had to know what
was going on. You had to be ready for it.
And really he came out there, he installed his offense
and really quickly I realized that his offense is never
(15:16):
going to have a fullback in it. And I just
kind of went back to my role of just playing
all the special teams at that point. So I did
get one catch from him, got a first down, shot out.
You got the picture. Yeah, I got the same time
my Facebook page and the whole deal. So got got
one from Payton. That's all I got.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I want to talk about your transition from football. That's
why we do this podcast, is you know, getting to.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Hear about it.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And from from reading up on you, you said it
was easier than it was possibly for then what other
athletes probably struggled with?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Why was that the case for you?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah? I think so. Number one, because I never thought
I would make it past really half a year.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, I mean yeah, you were like, dude, in junior
I was a junior college due I didn't even think
about it.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I mean from day one, it was like, hey, you know,
if I get one year, that's huge. And then after
I got one, it was if I can get three
and get pinched and benefits, like that's that would be insane,
right right? So I ended up getting four credited and
it was like, man, this is this is unbelievable. So
from there I knew it was going to end pretty quickly.
So with that, I got kind of lucky because my
wife started a business my third year in Denver. And
(16:22):
so what business was that she had a personalization company
that she started online. Pretty much came down to the
fact that I was on a new team every single
season and she's like, this is this just sucks. Really.
What it comes down to is she had to go
on a job interview every year get a new job,
and she's like, I just want to find a way
to work from home. So that's where it came from.
Started handpating wineglasses and thought it was the stupidest thing
(16:45):
I've ever seen in my life. I've come home. She
had to bake them in the oven and take like
thirty minutes. She'd sell them for like fifteen bucks and
take her fifty minutes to make one. And I was like,
this is going to make a couple dollars. But at
least she's busy. This is cool. Pretty soon she started
having to scale it up. She bought like a cricket.
She started doing final those started selling like crazy. And
at the same time, I was three years my contract ended.
(17:06):
I was looking for a new contract, and I started
looking into it and I'm like, man, she's actually like,
this is a really good market here. So uh, I
took some of my money, started investigating too commercial grade
laser and gravers, and I started building the shop with her,
and you know, pretty soon, like it was, it was
raking at that point. So we're doing it off the
dining room table of her dad's house. And you have
this laser that actually, I mean it creates smoke because
(17:29):
it's lasering into wood and other materials, and we're blowing
it out the window of his kitchen. I'm like, man, yeah, whatever,
like this working man, this works. And we took over
his whole house inventory the whole deal, and ye, I
was making good money. And at that point, I then
I did sign with the Chargers. I signed a one
year with them, so I went there and the whole
time I was kind of like, man, I got this
(17:49):
cool thing going in the background, but I want, let's
get one more year. Yeah. Every year that money goes
up too, so it's like, I one more year. I
think it was like six forty was the minimum at
that point for four year player, So I'm like, man,
if I get six forty more in my bank account,
which is not it would really be like I was
in California, so it would have been like two.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Fifty uh Texas, but it were crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But with that, I was like, all right, one more
and I went into camp, got hurt, and then I
got released with the injury settlement. So I took that
and got a fourth season.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
So are you telling any of your teammates about your
other side hull so that you have with your wife
that's running out your father in laws like Kitten, That
was like, because I would not as a player, I'm like,
I mean, so I.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Did that for five years and I told nobody.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I actually within a year I was making more doing
that than I was playing in the NFL really and
doing that with my wife, and I didn't tell a
person like my teammates and friends started, you know, retiring
from the NFL or you know, walking away, and at
that point they're like, hey, man, like, what do you
what do you do now? I'm like, oh, you know,
I'm kind of just doing my thing over here, man, like,
you know, kind of whatever. I went to tell them, and
(18:52):
they're like, it's like, what do you like what do
you do every day? Though? And you know, I kind
of just do this thing like with my wife that
she does, but I didn't really explain. It was mostly
like wedding gifts. So it was like brides made groomsmen
gifts for weddings, and we customized items. I kind of
made like the mail version shop. I had like pocket
knives and flash and stuff like that. She kind of
had the girly side with like tumblers and like cutting
(19:14):
boards and stuff like that. And we created two competing
sites and it really taught me how to just do
e commerce for the most part. Yeah, so really figured
it out, how to how to build it, how to
source product, how to market, how to fulfill customer service,
the whole deal. And I did that for about five
years with my wife, and then at that point five years,
I was going really a lot of people started calling
and they were all like kind of leaving the NFL
(19:36):
at that point, and they're like, man, what do you do? Hey?
I couldn't answer that question. I realized that, you know,
this is doing really well, but this is not me. Like,
you know, I grew up my dad owns a fitness
equipment company. You know, I played sports my whole life.
I'm into fitness, Like, how do I get back into
that world? And that was kind of the question on
my mind at that point.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
So then you come up with the eye shaker, wor
did that? Where did that idea? Where that concept come from?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So they kind of man kind of originated from my
wife's business. So a lot of people were coming in.
They're bringing different cups in and they were saying, hey,
can you customize this? And the one that exploded at
that time in twenty sixteen was the Yettie cup. So
they just had the thirty ounce tumblr I didn't want
one because we were selling them about one hundred fifty
bucks apiece every time we personalized them. And we're just
(20:23):
flying through. You were selling single YETI personalized one hundred
and fifty bucks. So I was hustling, like I was
going to like every academy, calling them every week, saying like, hey,
when's your next yetti shipman? Come in? All right, just
leave them all in the box. I'll come buy them
at full retail and they're like okay, and I'd show
up and they just leave them the box. I'd take
hundreds at a time, or however many they would give me,
bring them back to our shop. We put them online,
(20:45):
and we selling them one hundred fifty bucks apiece e commerce.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
All right, go back, go back, answer peanuts question. I
got distracted with.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I was processing as you were talking.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I was like forty bucks each. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he
buy them for forty and then we customize them and
resell them, yeah for more.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I ain't mad at it.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
No, I mean that's what people were paying.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
So yeah, So explain to so I saw you on
Shark Tank, but explain to the viewer and to our
listeners that have not seen that, what exactly Ice Shaker is,
the concept behind it and why you started it.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah for sure. So we're here in Dallas it was
like one hundred five degrees out during the summer. I
think it was July at the time, and I was
going to the gym. You I'd actually use this insulated
cup at work and that go home and I grab
a plastic shaker because that's all that was out there
at that time, fill it up, you know, BCA's or water,
whatever it was, and go to the gym. By the
time I got there was sweating. I was making little
(21:45):
sweat rings on the ground. And I'm like, man, there's
this technology out there, but I can't shake or mix
anything in it. I don't. I just create something that can.
So that was the whole idea. It's the stupidest, simplest
idea that no one's ever done. So I figured I'd
go online and just buy one, went home, jump on Amazon,
nothing out there, googled it, nothing out there, and it's
kind of like, I, you know, this is kind of
my way back into fitness and sports and you know,
(22:07):
kind of doing what I like to do. I'm going
to jump on this, So I did. I ended up
ordering ten thousand units was my initial order. Were already
sourcing product and I was already doing that with my
wife's company, so I kind of already knew how to
do it, got the products, thought it was going to
be the easiest selling the world. Posted on Twitter at
the time because that's all that was out there, had
like thirty thousand followers, and I'm like, man, this is
going to blow up. And I sold two bottles the
(22:29):
first week, and I was like, we got a problem here.
So that's how it all started though, and then from
there it was kind of just how do I get sales?
You know, I kind of followed the same routine that
I did with my wife. We did it on Etsy.
I went to Amazon, figured out how to rank at
the top, how to get reviews, product photos, the whole deal,
started ranking up there, and then started doing local shows.
So it was kind of like the bodybuilding shows at first,
(22:51):
the local ones. People were there and you know.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You got to go to the gym bros.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Right, Yeah, Like they're all in there, a small body
building show, so guy, this is the place to start.
And it was just it was just sitting there and
talking people down in an aisle and having them grab
our bottle and grab a plastic one and saying, you know, hey,
there's ice in this one. And they're like, there's no way,
you know, there's no way there's ice in it. They'd
open it up, there's ice in it, keep it cold
for thirty plus hours, and it was like, I need
(23:16):
this cup and we just started selling a ton of cups.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
What's what I want to know is so that was
that was a shark tank experience, right.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That was the very beginning.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That was the beginning.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
You can ask about his shark tank experience. Nope, Nope,
you're not gonna ask them.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I want you to ask them.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Oh well, let's talk about it. I want to know
because it's a TV show.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
So and you had all your brothers there with you, yep.
I mean you guys came out. Did it helps the
whole broft?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You got chess bumps?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah yeah, a couple of chess buff flip cup yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
They played flip cup with the with the with the
the shark, and it was good. It was a great production.
It got us excited about it. Whether we thought the
product worked or not, we were excited. And did you know, like,
all right, what was the game plan going into it?
I saw the number you were like ten percent for
one hundred thousand yep. You ended up getting giving away
(24:09):
fifteen percent for one hundred and fifty thousand. Fine, what
was the game plan for you? Like, all right, what
do I want to come out of here with? And
then like, how are we going to sell this?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah? For sure? So for me, we're only six months
in on the company at that point. Uh. At that point,
you know, I just got it six months before that.
I'm hustling, I'm doing shows, I'm doing whatever I can
to get my sales up as high as possible, so
I could go on there and ask for a million
dollar evaluation, right. Uh. But my game plan was really
like I want I want a deal. You know, this
was a side hustle for me. I was doing this
when I got home after work, and the wife's business
(24:40):
was doing more than enough to support us at that point,
so I was like, man, I got nothing to lose, right,
so let's go on here, let's actually try to get
a deal and let's lock something up.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
So how did you first? How did you get on?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So it came from my agent actually emailed. It was
twenty twelve. I was with the Broncos. It was just
an email saying, you know, the show was looking for
any current or former NFL players. For them, it was
a way for them to grow their audience. So they're
trying to get players. There's players that go on there
all the time, in different celebrities as well, and all
they're really trying to do is get more people to
watch the show, so they're reaching out. I knew that.
(25:13):
I knew I had an advantage. I didn't have to
go to the trade show or like the whole deal
that a lot of people have to go to, and
I got to skip all those steps. I actually hit
them back. It was almost five years later. It was
twenty seventeen when I hit them back. So I got
the email in twenty twelve, five years later. I wrote
back to it and they answered.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Like I just got this. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah. The girls like I don't even work there anymore,
but she passed me off to the one that does,
and they were like, yeah, we'll like just make a video.
So I'm sitting there like I got to make a video.
I gotta make this good. So I did the whole video,
like working out, ripping my shirt off. I'm throwing in
like the clips of my one touchdown, getting Rob in there,
and I'm like, yo, Rob, I need you in this
video for a minute, right, like just you know, chug
(25:54):
out of this bottle, like scream into the camera. And
so he made this video, send it in and just unlisted.
I'm like on YouTube and you just wait. And it's
like five days later, I saw there's five views on it.
They called and they're like, man, that video is awesome,
Like it's five views, yeah, they like five, Well, it's unlisted,
so like five producers watched it or whatever. So then
from there like it's you know, it's months actually, like
(26:16):
it's a ton of paperwork. And then they want to
get you ready for the moment because they wanted to
actually be a good production. Yeah, they wanted to look
good on TV because enough people get on there and
they freeze. Yeah, they have enough content of bad materials.
So they want you to actually you know, be prepared
and and you know, know your numbers and put on
a good presentation. So went back and forth with you know,
the producers of the show so that you were ready
(26:37):
for that moment. And then uh, as soon as they
asked if all my brothers would be on the show,
I was like, all right, it's a done deal now,
like I'm going to be on the show for sure.
So I got them all in. They maybe flying first
class man, and that was my biggest business expense at
that time, so I was kind of pissed about it.
They each were like two thousand dollars flights and I
had to fly them all in that night. But got there,
(26:57):
they hit them. They actually the show is, I mean,
it's legit, so they don't know anything beside your name
when you walk out there. They had no idea. They
didn't know the name of the product, didn't know the
name of the family. They had no idea my brothers
were there. They got there, they hit them in the back,
so the producers didn't even see my brothers there. And
then like when they ran out on the stage, like
that was a real reaction. Yeah. Yeah, I think Mark
might have known who they were, but I don't think
(27:18):
anyone else even had any idea what was going on.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
They did not, of course with the show.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Mark, even as you started going, Mark's like, hey, look
to our audience for somebody that doesn't know, this is
the gron Colci because the female I forget her name.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So we had Lori on there, and then we.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Had Barbara Yeah as well, and she was like, oh
my gosh, you guys are so accomplished. She had no idea,
so it was just really cool how it all kind
of came out on.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
TV for sure. So I mean, real deal, real pitch,
real money.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Rob actually didn't know his real money. He's like, he's like, so, like,
what'd you win? I was like, man, I was like, no,
like legitimately invested in the company. But yeah, I mean
it went from then, you know, eighty thousand and sales
in the first six months to over the next twelve
months we did over three million in sales.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So they really helped you, like boost it. So you
really do get exposure day exposure.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah. So I mean if you go on there, you
have a good presentation, you have a product that's easy
to buy for consumer, which we did, and then you
get offers from all five it's kind of this buying
signal to everyone that's watching too. Yeah this product. So
the exposures massive five million people watching it, and then
it's really like it's an ultimate pitch for me. You're
watching eight minutes of me pitching a product to you
and you're like, oh, that is pretty cool. I'm to
(28:29):
buy it. So it's super valuable. We have reruns all
the time, and it still you know, hits our site
and we get a couple thousand views to a site
and you know, our sales spike every time. Still so
great experience. Uh, you know that wave then goes and
keeps going and people watching Hulu and it lasts for
about two months, and then after that you're like, man,
I got to actually figure out how to run a
business now at this point. So that worked all the
(28:51):
way we are at October, went right through the holidays,
and then really January ends up being New Year's Resolution,
and then after that in February, it was kind of
my like moment where I've realized I need to know,
you know, kind of figure out what to do here.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, how did so when you sold it? Who all
did you pitch it.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
To or not? Scuby?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I know you pitched everyone. Which person gave you the
best option as far as who you want to partner with?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So we had we had Alex Rodriguez as a guest
on the show, and then I wanted Mark because you know,
just the the sports aspect of it, and he was
in Dallas as well, so goal was Mark. When they
have a guest that seems like they try to get
the guest in on a deal as fast as possible,
because that's kind of the point of him being on
the show.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Hey Rod jumped in, So yeah, Mark, that was right away.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Mark was like, I'll do it if Alex does it,
and you kind of realized really quickly, like this is
the part that's made for TV. You know, we got
to get this guest in on it as well. So
I didn't know anything about Alex or really anything he
was doing, because that was the first time he was
on the show, and you know, there wasn't really much
information on there about him, so I didn't know if
would be good or bad at that point. But to me,
it was just get a deal and let's see what happens.
(29:55):
Because it's it's not my main source income anyways. This
is kind of a you know, the side also that
hopefully just explodes.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
So do you have a relationship or entering or do
you have any interactions with Mark Cuban.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
So right away realize that, you know, this was season
nine when I went on, Mark had a full team
built out. It was Mark Cuban Companies. You signed me
an advisor immediately, and then you know, Really, it's the
advisor that's helping you out. That's the guy in the trenches.
That's the guy that's working with all the companies all
the time. You know, Mark's not going to dig in
on a seventy five thousand dollars investment and you know
put his time and effort into it. So this guy
(30:28):
was assigned to us. You know, I could ask anything
and super early on like I was all over them,
you know, like, how do how do I advertise on Facebook?
You know? Should I do text messaging? Who's doing this? Well?
Can you connect me with the Good Morning America? Can
you get me on QBC? And you get me in GNC?
And this is all things that they were able to
help with right off the bat.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Thanks. So this is what I want to know at
the beginning that I was not going.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
To do for all.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Right here it is ready, here it comes. How do
you do it?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
How do you get the licensing for the teams? Not
only that I care less about the teams. I thought
it was cool because you know, a Rod was there,
and then I heard one of your brothers or maybe
you like, dude, we got NBA and MLB and so
you also have licensing with both of those because you
can get the ice shaker with your favorite team, all teams,
(31:16):
all teams, all leagues. But I'm more important with what
me and Jay are talking about. How you get Dragon
ball z.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
My guys, that's a secret one right there.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
That's the killing the moment that was I'm like, oh, bro,
I'm in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
It's crazy because i mean the sports teams are super popular. Yes,
they're hard to get to the one the hard the
hardest one against the NFL, yes, of course, so we
were able to get the smaller ones. N C DOUAA
is super easy. Uh, you still have to figure out
They fill out all the paperwork and then you got
to pay all the royalties and it's it's not fun.
You gotta track it all. You gotta submit all the
reports quarterly or monthly, depending on how much you're selling.
(31:48):
But uh, NFL is tough to get. I mean you're
paying a six figure royalty up front, Like, man, that's
that's tough. And then they're limiting you to a certain category.
And for us with shaker only, and you know, we
sell drugs, we sell time, we saw cups and they're like,
we'll give you Shaker only. You got to pay six
figures up front. I'm like, man, that's that's tough. Their
machine and they want to make the most money as possible.
(32:09):
You know, Jerry, Jerry knows how to do it. Is
with that, we actually went to a licensing show. I
met another group that already had the license and they
were looking for a bottle. Uh, so we actually partnered
up with them and then uh they were able to
use their license and bring our product in and license
it for us in the sports world connection. From that
same show, then we know we we met the dragon
(32:29):
ball Z's Ice is another one that we just launched.
That's pretty cool. You take an iconic logo like icy
that's been around for fifty plus years and you put
it on a bottle and we sold out in thirty days.
I was like, man, that's pretty cool. Bigley choose another
one that we'll probably have coming here too. But kind
of just take these iconic logos and you put them
on a bottle.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And so you've met dragon ball Z people.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Just know it's not it's not actually the dragon ball
Z people. It's all through licensing companies is what you're
going to actually work with. So okay, yeah, you're not yeah,
like you're you're working with someone you know. We had
a ask Yeah, yeah, well I just didn't know, but
just trust me. Me and my man Jay we were like,
I'm like, Jay, they got dragon ball Z. And what
(33:10):
we found out really quickly is like the smaller niche
ones kind of like you know, like a dragon ball
Z that no one's really tapped into. Those ones are
the ones that crushed for us.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I mean Joe Guy just saying if.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I might have to start looking that up. It is.
It's a little hard to figure out who you got
to talk to and how to get it, and then
you are paying royalties and you're paying upfront royalties too.
So uh. But the benefit is is that somebody that's
a dragon ball Z fan that doesn't care about working
out or even know who the Gradkowski brothers are the product,
they're still going to buy it. Yes, And now you
just introduce yourself to an entire new audience that would
(33:41):
have never seen your product.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Otherwise, at what point does it make sense for you
guys to make the deal versus a passing Because you're saying,
like six figure up front? This one was this one
like in your mind when you're you're running it. What
what is the point that's like, I won't cross.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It's tough. I mean a hundred hundred K stuff, I
can tell you. Yeah, we try to. We try to
survey it out and then we'll also sometimes try to
just put up your test to see we have the
ability to custom engrave ourselves. So we did with dragon
Ball because I had no idea and everyone kept telling me, yo,
this is huge, Like you can do it. We can
print on demand, so we could actually print on demand.
We could test it first and if it sells, then
(34:21):
we can we can go all in on it.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And how do you test it? You just like print
like ten twelve maybe and if.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's a secret sauce, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
So you can do that sometimes, Like you could even
put up a listing and you know, put ten on
it and then say it sold out and refund everyone. Yeah,
I got that's a way to kind of test it
without actually bringing the product in yet. I got you.
Oh man, sorry, already sold out?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, no worries. I want to know. So I'm a
military military bret myself with my dad serving shout out pops,
thank you for your service. What's the connection between your
company and veterans.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, for sure. I guess really that all started college.
We went to Fort Wachuka at Arizona, and then the
NFL does a great job with connecting you as well
with the military, So from there I think that connection
was kind of there. Rob would visit a ton of
bases as well. He do pro camps at bases, and
then he worked with USO too, and then he works
with USAA, So there's kind of just this whole NFL
(35:18):
military connection. And then from that, the company and the
product itself just related to military members. You know, they're
working out, they're always active, they need water. So from
day one, we kept getting people reaching out and just saying, hey,
can you guys send care packages? And I always said yes.
Came to the point then like once you sent a
couple care packages out and people find out, then like
(35:39):
the floods right, like everyone starts asking for him. So
I kept saying yes, And at that point I realized, like, man,
I'm getting crushed on this, Like how do I continue
to do this but fund it? So we then created
a program where we created bottles that were military themed
and then everyone that was purchased, we donated one to
active military. At that point, we had a partner operated
(36:00):
Supply Drop. They would send them all out for us,
because the most expensive part by far was shipping shipping,
because you're shipping too, I mean around the world, and
you're shipping with really just the post office the only
one that will send it there, and it takes forever.
It's really expensive. And so they came in and they
funded that they had like the like the aircraft routes,
or they had a way to get it to them
without going through the post office, which was great. So
(36:22):
that also helped us just vet the people was going
to because we found out really quickly too that people
would ask for it and then they'd get it and
they just resell it. They'd be like, hey, man, I
got a hundred guys in my squad, can you send
one hundred bottles out? They get it and they won't
give it to anyone. They just keep it or sell
it or whatever. So we did a lot of that
and then yeah, it got to the point where we
were donated thousands of bottles to that program. We lost
(36:43):
that partner, so then instead we transitioned now to a
program on our website where you can pick from different
military foundations that you could donate one percent of your
sale from that we actually give the money back for.
So that's that's where we're at at this point. But
always trying to support as much as we can. Yeah,
there's a bunch of different foundations that we make products
for and then we donate the money back to them
on those those products as well. Like that sweet? All right?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
So what's next for you guys? What's next for ice
shaker Man? We got what's Yeah, what's next?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Still? More licensing's coming. We have all the Marvel stuff now,
which is pretty cool. I saw that. So we have
a lot, I mean a lot of characters there that
we haven't even touched yet. Even dragon Ball, we haven't
touched all of them. No, you have none. We have
a lot left there. I did like trunks though, I
appreciate that. Yeah, and we can make those full colored
as well. Sal has been a good sealer for us
as well. But with that, a lot of licensing left
(37:34):
and then just new products. We're always trying to create
new stuff. I think there's a huge niche in youth sports.
I got three boys now, I play and coach way
too much baseball and the flag football at this point.
So realize that you know that market. People want swag
like they want their kids, right, so we could customize,
We customize bottles, names, numbers, logos, the whole deal. We
turn in three to five business days. So that's a
(37:55):
huge market for us as well. You know, you have
a half gallon jug. It's one hundred degrees out today.
Kids have to have water on the field. And then
you know the moms are just gonna pimp them out
as much as possible. So realize really quickly, find the
team mom, put up an ad or let her know
about the product, and you know that's that's twelve jugs
sold almost immediately.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
It's crazy how much money parents spend.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
On care baseball bat now. I mean they just released
the new ones for five hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I was gonna say three, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
The latest bat that came out this week. I saw
three people with yesterday five hundred bucks. You know, older
and how old are these kids unless I mean ten,
ten or younger?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yeah, you know, you know, my wife had the great idea.
She wanted to do what uh the with the torpedo bat?
Oh yeah, yeah, She's like I'm gonna give I'm like
this dude ain't even hitting it in the outfield all the.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Time, Like, why are we trying to get a torpedo bat.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
You're gonna get a wood bat.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
No, he did.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
They got the battle with torpedoes already.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I don't think so, I don't think. I think she's
just making up in her head. She just saw it.
But the torpedo bat's a new phenomenon. Well it's been
around forever, but they it's just the.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
First time I've seen it. Yeah, I mean that's I'm
sure there's gonna be metal one soon.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah, it'll be interesting that probably right.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I'll buy last year's model though.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Well, Chris Man, I you you've got a great family,
and this would be interesting to hear this answer. But
mount Rushmore of influence, the people that have poured them
to you to help you achieve and get to this
person that we see right here in front of us today.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You got four Who would those four people be?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, for sure, Mom and Dad for sure on that one.
I mean I would say too, okay, just completely different
sides of it. You have Dad, who was you know,
on sports and and and really the phys big sports guy,
just like I mean, never pushed it on us, but
if we did it, we had to do it. And
then it was kind of like how do we take
you to the next level. That's where the whole his
(39:49):
whole fitness equipment company came from. It was I want
to buy equipment for all five boys. That's going to
be you know, good equipment that's gonna last. And he
actually started an entire business because he couldn't find equipment
for us. So with that, like he was, you know,
he was working, and he was a supporter. And then
my mom was one, you know, all day, every day
taking care of us. And that's like five boys, feeding
(40:10):
us every meal, like not a lot of money. So
kind of just scrapped it and just sewing, sewing sweatpants
back together and socks.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Like how much did y'all break?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, So our house pretty much had nothing in it.
So we had a couch and she had a rocking
chair for the baby. And then like if you walked in,
people were like, do you guys live here? Because there
was nothing on the walls, like no pictures, nothing like
that really hung, no decorations. It was a couch and
a rocking chair. And then like those old TVs, you know,
like the big box TV. That's all we had. So
(40:43):
outside of that, like there was no decorations. Everything was
just a weapon if it was there or it was broken.
So that was that was kind of it. Our house
couldn't sell, Like she tried to sell our house after
we're done with it, and everyone was like, man, this
thing is destroyed. Everything had to be replaced.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I'm not wild, no, no, no that like that. We definitely
have it with five boys and they're not small boys.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
And like we were the neighborhood too, Like we were
the house everyone came over to. So it wasn't just
us five, it was like us five and then everybody
had a friend or two or three friends. There's like
ten people there every time came over.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
So Mom and dad, you got two more.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, Mom and dad, for sure. That's tough man. I mean,
definitely had some good coaches along the way. But outside
of that, I would put the brothers in there more
than anyone else because it was always which brothers say,
you know I was. I was with Rob throughout college,
so really probably the closest, we're closest in age and
(41:40):
that I was with my older brother Dan as well. So, uh,
first two years at Maryland was with my brother Dan,
the more responsible one. You know, that's kind of where
I got the responsibility from. And yeah uh and then
you know, the party in aspect was then the second
two years of college with my brother Rob, so having
a good time there and really just working hard, you
know that, and pushing each other to the next level.
I think that's kind of where that came from.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Trust me. I love my Thursday nights in college too.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
They were good, man, those were good times. Fridays were tough.
Saturday I just didn't care, man, I was just throw
your head down and try to put it under someone's chin.
So it worked out.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Absolutely absolutely, Chris. Appreciate you, man.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, thanks for having me. This is thanks for coming
all the way in town to see me.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
No doubt, bro. Just for you, yeah, man, just for you, dog.
This was awesome. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Man.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
I'm gonna probably have to go ahead and invest in
a couple of ice.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
If you nice. Dragon Ball man, let me know.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I'm totally going to get a couple of Dragon BALLO
you telling you right now that.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
From my youngest right now. She's a big Dragon Ball
anime kind of person.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
So it's still going like it's still like the younger
generation still going with Dragon Ball.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
And it came out when I was in high school.
It hit in America. It had already been out in
Japan for years. It hit in America when I was
in high school in the early two thousands, and you
still have the young people, like you said.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Right now, I was watching it like ninety eight ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
So where do you watch it? So to answer the question,
who licenses actually a crunchy roll? Is that also where
they watch it? They watch it through country role.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
So my brother did that, but you it's a it's
an app called It's slipped my mind right now, it's dude,
it's got it. You have to actually have an app
to watch You have to have an app to watch it.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
You can actually go back and watch all the episodes.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
You're not like playing it still on.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
No, I was a cartoon network guy when that's originally
watched it back in the day.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, I think me too, one of those. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
And and now then they released movies every now and then,
like they just had a movie or two like a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yeah those are big. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
So but back to you, thank you. I appreciate it. Man,
you're gonna be successful in everything you do. We could
just tell I mean you're naturally an entrepreneur, or go
get her. I mean you were hustling and didn't tell
nobody for years. That's your wife's They don't post that.
(43:59):
You tell nobody, just so what you been doing.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
That's how you know. Somebody on it's like get in
it done, man, you know, and you're shaking your head like, yeah,
you know, I'm just kind.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Of you know, just tell them the secret. Either man
may try to come after you know.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
That's smart. I like it.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
I love it all.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Appreciate you coming on with the podcast, like room saying, man,
you you strike me as a guy. Whatever you do,
you will be successful. So I wish nothing but the
best for wish nothing but the best for you, and
I look forward to seeing what your next adventure is.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Appreciate you guys, man, no doubt. Man.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
For all of our viewers and listeners out there, appreciate
it as always. Man, make sure you give us a
five star rating, leave a review, leave a couple of comments,
Tell Peanut what he could be doing better, because he
definitely could take that advice, and uh check us out
wherever you pick up your podcast Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and
the NFL pages YouTube channel that's no longer.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
You watch the NFL YouTube channel. And when you do
leave a comment, please let us know what I'm doing wrong,
and also make a comment or two about what Roman
can do better with his T shirts or college shirts
because they are absolutely atrocious. Hey, that's Chris, i' peanut,
that's Roman. And this is the NFL Player's second x
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