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May 2, 2025 41 mins

NFL Network Insiders Mike Garafolo and Judy Battista join Steve Wyche to break down the start of Rookie Minicamps across the league. Seahawks rookie QB Jalen Milroe joins the show to speak on his experience being drafted by Seattle and the warm welcome he’s received from former Seahawks legends. Jane Slater reports on Cowboys rookie camp, while Cameron Wolfe covers the Titans, Jaguars, and Eagles. Plus, Adam Rank reveals his top rookie flex picks for your 2025 fantasy roster.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hey, rookies, Time for Rookie Minicamp.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Four teams opening rookie camps on Friday, including the Seattle Seahawks,
Nick comn Wari getting his first walk onto probably for
my money, the coolest practice field in the NFL to
get the lake out there on the right. So welcome
Nick mon Wari and the rest of the rookie class
there in Seattle, which includes Jalen Milroe, the quarterback slash

(00:31):
ultimate weapon that might.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Be used for the Seahawks this upcoming season.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
He will join us later in the show, and our
guy Adam Rank will be along to talk about the
fantasy flex with some of the rookies here as you
get ready for your fantasy drafts in a couple of months,
but you better be preparing right now.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Welcome inside with the insiders.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yes, there we are inside, Judy Mattista here, Steve Whys's
gonna be joining me joining us momentarily, Jane Slater as well,
Cameron Wolf, the aforementioned Adam Rank, and Jalen Milroe joining
the program as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
A pat show here on a Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Night in May, where the news is always churning, and
it was churning along with the cheese, I guess in
Green Bay as the Packers opened a rookie camp again today,
one of four teams to open it today.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Matthew Golden, He's gonna be wearing the twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Two thousand and two was the last time Green Bay
drafted a wide receiver, and the two was a number
that is late grand great grandmother who passed when he
was two, encouraged him to wear. So twenty two, there's
all the reasons why he's going to be wearing a
number you don't usually see for wide receiver, So you
know what make it unique. Matthew Golden one of the
rookies joining Matt Lafleur on the field today.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
You always have an idea. I think it's an important
part of it as you're going through the draft process,
is you want to have a vision for how you
would potentially use somebody. So that's just part of the
eventuation part of our process, whether it's free agency or
the draft, and that's what you're trying to communicate to

(02:06):
our scouting department is, hey, here's how we would like
or here's how we would envision using this guy. But ultimately,
I think a lot more that's determined after the fact,
when you get them in the building, you get to
work with them on a daily basis, you see how
fast they pick things up. Inevitably, there's going to be

(02:27):
something that's going to surprise you in a positive light
that they do really well, that you're like, oh, shoot,
maybe I didn't recognize that just off the tape. So
I think it's all about just that process of working
together and kind of growing together.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Steve wish here has promised joining Judabatista and myself Mike Garrafola.
I don't think I introduced myself at the top of
the show. Golden joining Anthony Button, the offensive tackle, save
On Williams, another wide receiver taken in the third round.
Baron Serrell who joined the program the other day, Remember
that scene of him being draft.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
That in Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
So an interesting a rookie class here for the Green
Bay Packers, Steve, as they look on, look to these guys,
certainly Golden to contribute right away.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
When I see if someone wearing a number twenty two
when they're not a running back or defensive back, I'm
thinking of Doug Flutie wearing that.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
We was the quarterback of Boston College. We to look
so out of place.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Well, let's get to Golden and you talked about Savion
Williams too. Look at this Packers wide receiver room now,
I mean it is loaded with players. You've got guys
like Romeo Dops, You've got Jaden Reed, Christian Watson's coming
back from that ACL. But this is where a lot
of the competition's going to be, and this is where
these rookies need to get up to speed. You're heard
Matt Lafleur saying right there, how quickly they learn. That's

(03:39):
all these non padded mini camps are at this offseason
work is about getting in the classroom and taking it
out on the field while you're still playing touch football
and you can understand exactly what's going on.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
So that's going to be what's important in.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
This competition to see who's going to be one of
the several non number one wide receivers for Green Bay.
Remember Matt laflor said, we don't need necessarily number one.
I'm sure who would like some of these guys to
step up though, to compete with some of those wide
receiver tandems in the rest of the NFC.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
Nor you know, I look at the Packers' rookie class
as they arrive, and I think back to that loss
in the wildcard round to the Eagles and how that
really put a spotlight on what they were going to need,
and they addressed it in the draft, right. I mean,
if you remember that game, they only scored ten points.
Jordan Love was under a lot of pressure. The receivers
couldn't separate, Christian Watson was already hurt by that time.

(04:28):
They just couldn't get much going offensively, and so voila,
you finally get a first round wide receiver. They also
took offensive lineman, and you know, those things were happening
throughout the season. You could see those weaknesses, but when
they get exposed that dramatically in a playoff game, where
that is a signal you know which direction the team

(04:48):
is almost certainly going to go in the draft.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
And that's what we saw with the Packers with this
rookie class.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I'm watching Matthew Golden with the G on the chain
there drafted by Green Bay, with the G Baron Currell
bear to be drafted by gre It just feels like
the script started a little bit early this year.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
If you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
With some of the things that fell into place for
the Green Bay Draft class. Steve come back with us
in a little bit here, and you're going to get
more from you as we look now toward the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
And that is I.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Believe Tyler Booker right there, if I'm not mistaken. Is
that him, That is him getting comfortable in his boots,
in his head like he's been there forever. You know
what kind of feels like a little bit like Alabama
to him?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Apparently.

Speaker 8 (05:33):
I think it's a similar situation in that both Alabama
and the Dallas Cowboys are two nationally recognized programs, two
programs that have a lot of tradition, that have a
lot of success in his past and with the new staff, like,
there's a lot of opportunity for us to you to
grow and create new traditions and create new legacies, but
we also have to acknowledge the past. So just being
in similar situations both years, just understanding like, yeah, we

(05:56):
came from something really good, but we could get a
whole lot better too.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Is that Matt Mosley in the background there, James that
who was wearing the shades inside Because I love I
love my always, I gotta.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I gotta give him heck for that. Haven't talked him
in a while. What's up, Matt.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Jane Slater here, havn't talked to you and I don't know,
maybe a day or so. So good to have you
back here on the program, Jane, as we talk about
this Cowboys draft class and Tyler Booker, who seems to
be saying all the right things, and he's got the
demeanor it seems to be playing in that market down there.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
He absolutely does.

Speaker 9 (06:27):
And I love the comparison between the Cowboys in Alabama
because both when you play for Role Tide and you
wear that star on your helmet, there is a lot
of attention, there's a lot of expectations, and so I
love that he came in here. You know, ahead of
the draft, Mike I had reported that there was some
concern about what they could expect from a leadership perspective
in the absence of a guy like Zach Martin. Now

(06:51):
you bring in this guy, and that was never a
knock on Tyler Smith. They love what they've got from
Tyler Smith. But this was an offensive line that at
one point we had a Ezekiel Elliott here in Dallas,
you had Travis Frederick, you had Tyron Smith, you had
Zach Martin, and so they've had to replace that. And
so this Tyler Booker pick they've talked about. Yes, Tet

(07:11):
was high on their boarder t Mac. Sorry, Ted doesn't
like to be called that.

Speaker 10 (07:15):
It's t Mac.

Speaker 9 (07:16):
They had him high on the board, but Tyler Brooker
was there, and they felt really good about grabbing him.
As you see there on the bottom line, he went
ahead and got that four year contract done, calling it
one of the standard deals. He got twenty two point
five million dollars thirteen million dollars signing bonus, and he
said he just wanted to get the deal done and
get to work. He said, Lord Willing, it's going to

(07:36):
be the first of many contracts, and of course they
certainly hope that.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
That is the case. But I think the big thing is.

Speaker 9 (07:43):
Obviously from the physical prowess there and how big this
offensive line is going to be in the way that
he can move guys around. It's that leadership thing that
really really stood out to Schadenheimer and the rest of
the people making that pick in the draft.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
You know, after the draft, we looked at all of
the teams and the things they had already accomplished in
the off season and the things they still had to do,
And the Cowboys really did check a whole lot of boxes.
They weren't always the sexy picks that we were all
waiting for. We were all waiting for a wide receiver
that didn't happen. But they did get the offensive line,
they did get a pass rusher. They do still need

(08:18):
a wide receiver to pair with Ceedee Lamb, but Jane,
they also addressed a big need that I feel like
we have been talking about now for two off seasons,
at least, the need at a running back. What do
you think they still need to do in Dallas?

Speaker 9 (08:33):
They know they need to address this wide receiver position,
even though Jerry Jones told us multiple times after the
draft that they do have Jonathan Mingo there. My argument was,
if Jonathan Ingo was your guy, who would have seen
more of him last year. They've also talked about kicking
around several wide receivers, a Mauri Cooper being one of them,
and I can tell you a lot of people in
the building, specifically not locker room, would love to see

(08:54):
that happen. But to help Ceede Lamb, they've bolstered up
that running backstroom. Now they waved to a linked day
this week. But remember they went out and they got
Javonte Williams, they got Miles Sanders, but more impressively in
this draft, they went out and they got two young
running backs. One I'm quite familiar with, Jadie Blue from
the University of Texas, averaging five point four yards per carrie.

(09:15):
He ran a four to three to eight at the Combine.
He told my buddy Patrick Walker with the Dallas Cowboys,
he actually is more of a sub four to three guy,
so he's gotten the speed for you. And then they
went out and they got Film Maffa from Clemson, and
so it really does seem like they're trying to put
some attention there. Granted, these guys weren't picked high and
the draft they were picked towards the later rounds, that

(09:35):
doesn't mean that you can't get value there.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
So at least there.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Has been I think attention on that offensive line.

Speaker 9 (09:41):
Who I was told at Combine, you know what I
brought up, the Derrick Henry thing. You know, I said
to someone, what might have happened if you guys had
actually gone out and gotten Derrick Henry And the statement
I got back. Was do you think Derrick Henry could
have had the year he had behind that offensive line?
And I don't think that that was them just find
not going out and doing more. But I did find

(10:02):
myself thinking about that a little bit. Now people are
going to come back at me and say, well, ric
O'Donnell did have a thousand yard year after they started him.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
That is true, That is a fair argument.

Speaker 9 (10:13):
But at least they know that that was an era
they had to address, and it seems like they are trying.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, and they considered taking a running back even earlier
when they took Savonn Revel, which I think is the
first time I pronounced both his first and last name
correctly on air. Savan Revel, the cornerback coming off an
ACL injury. They were talking about potentially taking a running
back there, but the value to get a guy like that,
who's a first round talent if and when he gets healthy,
just had to take him at that point.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
So they get their running backs later.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
On in the draft. Thank you, Dane Slater. You take
a look at this Cowboys entire class. You see those
running backs coming late. There's Revel at seventy six. There
which if he turns out to be the player everybody
expected him to be pre injury, that is going to
be incredible value for their secondary there.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
In round three.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Weiss, come on back in here with me and Judy
because let's talk about because you see these pieces and
you've heard what Brian Schottenheimer wants to get down as
the new head coach of the Cowboys, maybe a little
bit of return to some of the stuff they used
to do really well there in Dallas. The expectations in
year one under Schottenheimer.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Well, the expectation is going to be to win because
you know the Cowboys, they're kind of quiet right now.
They're get anything's taken care of, like getting their first
round draft picks signed. It's usually when they make these
types of moves when they surprise us. And I don't
think what we're talking about enough is what Dallas did
to kind of put depth on their defensive side of
the football.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Right they had a pretty good defense.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Matti Ebraflus now comes down to be the defensive coordinator.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
He's been there before, but they stacked up.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
They got Donovan Azaraku, the defensive end out of Boston College,
to help get edge pressure. They understand what they're dealing
with in the division, having to go against Jayden Daniels
and Jalen Hurts, two running.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Type of quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
They've got to get more athletic, and they've added pieces.
They've also got veteran leadership Solomon Thomas, a rotational defensive
tackle to come in and help out on that defense.
So that's another way to help out Dak Prescott in
this offense while they're trying to figure out that wide
receiver room. So again, when you add depth at positions
where you've already got quality starters, that's going to be
a big deal, especially in this division. And what else

(12:14):
is interesting is, you know Brian Schottenheimer. We're kind of
talking about him here and there. The more coaches you
talk to who have worked with him or have kind
of dealt against him, they think he's going to be
the right coach to kind of get things going because
he's going to be understated, he's going to be really
his nose down and in the playbook and things like that,
and he get this team to kind of reduce the
ego around it and to get them just to play football.

(12:35):
And again, you can tell by some of the players
that they brought in this offseason. That's the type of
character they've added.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
Well, I think there was.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
A very deliberate effort to increase the leadership quotion in
that locker room. When you look at the rookie class,
a number of those guys were captains of their college teams.
That says something. I mean, you could hear just Booker talking.
You can hear the way he talks. He is going
to be a team leader almost immediately. Brian Schottenheimer has

(13:03):
alluded to intangibles of leadership. It was clear that he
wanted to up the leadership value in the locker room,
and I think that's interesting for a first year head coach,
a first time head coach. It's pretty clear he wants
to put a stamp on that team and maybe change
the culture a little bit. Let's face it, this is
a team that has underperformed expectations in recent years.

Speaker 7 (13:25):
Last year obviously was very bad, but.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
Even in previous years where they got stopped early in
the playoffs, this team is just underperformed to the level
of talent that they have on the roster. It seems
like he thinks perhaps Dak Prescott needs more help, more
leaders around him. To corral that team and push it forward.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Well, we know what Dak thinks of Brian Schottenheimer, and
he certainly thinks highly of him.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Excited to see what he can do in year one.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Sometimes we hype the wrong guys for these head coaching jobs.
The wrong guy may have been Brian Schottenheimer ten to
fifteen years ago. The right guy might be Brian Schottenheimer
right now, a little bit more seasoned and ready for
this role.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
Here's a list of the first eight quarterbacks selected. You
see Jalen Milroe right there, fourth off the board. He
went in the third round to the Seattle Seahawks. Fourteen
quarterbacks in all were taken, and it's getting real in
Seattle now. Rookie camp is about to get underway. There
he is getting fitted for his helmet and you're going
to see in a few seconds he's also wearing a

(14:26):
pretty sweet throwback Seattle Seahawks jersey. He also got a
really nice welcome from one of his predecessors.

Speaker 11 (14:34):
Hey, Jalen, what's up? Matt Hasselbeck. Congratulations, Really happy for
you Draft day.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
So cool to hear.

Speaker 11 (14:41):
Sewn Alexander from Alabama announced that another Alabama guys going
to Seattle.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
All the success in the world to you.

Speaker 11 (14:49):
Man, You're going to a great organization, maybe the best
organization in all of sports. Definitely the best fans in
all of sports. So I'm really happy for you. It's
got a great quarterback room there. I know you can.
I know you'll compete. My advice would be, just don't
forget what got you there. Okay, hard work, determination, focus,
all that stuff doesn't change. So congratulations, all the best.

(15:10):
Can't wait to see you as a hot see it.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
And here Jalen Milroe is on the insiders of Gudi Batista.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
That's Steve. Why should Jalen?

Speaker 6 (15:18):
First of all, congratulations, thanks for taking a few seconds
to be with us. I am sure this week has
been a whirlwind. It's only been one week since you
were drafted. What stands out into your mind of what's
happened the last week.

Speaker 12 (15:31):
So initially, we got to start off with being selected
by Seana Alexander like that was a beautiful moment for
me and my family to hear me being announced by
Sean Alexander, a legend here for the Seahawks, also alumni
of Alabama, so it was awesome to hear my name
selected by Seawana Alexander. Secondly, Matt Hasselback a legend here
as a Seahawk to send that you know, quick video

(15:54):
expressing his love and his support out my way is
definitely appreciative for my end. But now it's just funny,
like just not getting acclimated here with the Seahawks, meeting
my new teammates, meeting my new coaching staff, getting acclimated.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
So it's been a unique journey for sure. After the draft.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Okay, talk about Sean Alexander. He wore that sweet throwback
Uni you're wearing. It wasn't a throwback when he was
wearing it. But number six, Man, you wore number four
at Alabama sometimes number two. What about you rocking the
next odd number or even number on the chain?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
There?

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Number six?

Speaker 12 (16:25):
I know, I know, I got I got you used
to it myself. Seeing number six, I went to my lock.
I'm thinking I'm getting them four. I'm looking looking for
number for I'm number six.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
I got used to it.

Speaker 12 (16:34):
So, uh, definitely adjustment for sure, But I'm glad I
got a single digit. I'm gonna just go rock with it.
Your punter's got four, right that said, Hey, that's my punner. Hey,
respect to the punter I got. I gotta earn respect
the veterans.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
There we go.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Uh, Chalen, I see the call sheet right on your
wrist already. They've been clear in Seattle they are going
to develop you as a quarterback. But I read something
that when you were meeting with teams, you were the
one pointing out things that you thought you needed to
improve on. So what do you think you need to
work on to be the starting quarterback of the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 10 (17:05):
Eventually see one thing about it.

Speaker 12 (17:07):
And I'm a student of the game, and I got
to earn the trust and respect every everybody in the
locker room. So with that meeting extra, with the coaching stuff,
getting around the guys in the room, learning growing because
no matter what, no matter what, I have, want to
be the best quarterback I can be, you know. And
it's been great, you know, to have a Rockie Minnie
camp here getting actimated with the guy who had a

(17:28):
really good day on offense. So I just know that
each day that I come into the organization, come into
the building, I'm gonna give give it everything I got
and be a sponge for all information.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
Jayala, Look when you when the whole team gets there,
you know you're you're gonna be there with Sam Darnold,
You're gonna be there with Drew Locke, two young players
who've had opportunities to start a lot of football games
in the NFL. What do you think you need to
do to ingratiate yourself to those veterans, but also let
it be known you're here for business.

Speaker 12 (17:55):
Yeah for sure, So number one, got pay respect to
the guys in the room. You know, these guys have
made had a unique journey to whoever that got them
to the NFL, and you're a unique individual being in
the room. So I got a pay respect number one,
but also be willing to learn. These guys have had
reps in the NFL, multiple reps, compete at a high level.
So as a young guy, all I want to do

(18:16):
is pay respect to the veterans, be willing to learn,
be willing to listen, and just do everything that's needed
to so that we can have a great quarterback room.
Because that's the best thing in the world. It's each
room collectively having shared success and also working for the
common goal. What's to be successful as a group and
as a team.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
You're obviously a tremendous dual threat style quarterback because of
your head coaches background. Lamar Jackson's name gets talked about
an awful lot when we talk about you. But I
wonder what quarterbacks do you study? Who do you try
to model your game after.

Speaker 12 (18:49):
Yeah, So this past offseason, after the twenty three season,
I did a lot of studying a Rock Party, Joe Burrow,
Gino Smith, and Lamar Jackson. And one thing that is
for certain at the court op position in the NFL,
you got play on time. You gotta know where your
hots are at, you gotta have pocket integrity, and you
got to be willing to learn and grow. And so

(19:11):
it comes from the preparation and also understanding your assignment
on each and every play. And so at the court position,
when you do all those things, the game slows down.
And so that's something I'm just going to factor as
much as possible as I learn and grow as being
a quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
It's a trigger you shay that you study Rock pretty
because you're oc Clint Kubiak comes from that tree, that
coach the same system.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Was that part of the Have you gone back to revisit.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Some of that tape or at least some of that
scheme that party runs it coming from that Shanahan McVeigh
type of tree.

Speaker 12 (19:39):
Absolutely. So it's funny like when we watch clips of concepts,
you're watching these quarterbacks in that tree of family of
playing in that you know, playing in that system, and
so you're just seeing those, you know, those those traits
that I just mentioned. And so that's definitely the quarterback
that I've that I've watched, and he does at a
really high level.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
All right, when you were still in college, you founded
something called lank Let all naysayers know it kind of
blew up. You have merchandise, you have a country song.
What happens now that you're in the pros? What becomes
a blank careful now?

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Look, so you know, definitely a motto.

Speaker 12 (20:20):
No matter where you're at in life, whether it's sports,
whether it's in a corporate job, no matter where it's at,
the motto is the same and overcoming any outside noise,
external factors, and it's looking internally within the group, the
organization and just knowing that the foundation is all about
working hard, trusting within each other and acknowledging that we

(20:42):
have a bigger purpose greater than anybody's opinion.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Yeah, you know you talk about getting to know your teammates.
I've got to go back to last season when you
guys played South Carolina and you guys had that crazy finish.
You have two touchdowns, you threw for one and ran
for one to come back and beat them by two.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Well, Nick, even.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Yuri, the safety that you guys drafted, was on that
team at a heck of a game, nine tackles. What
was a conversation like when you guys got together this week.

Speaker 12 (21:07):
First thing, I say, a good game, brother, good game.
I pay respect Number one, You gotta pay respect. You know,
he he competed man and definitely when we look at it,
look at the scout report, you know, you factor in
our who's their dude, and he was their dude on
defense and it was it was definitely something that we
saw going against him. So the best thing now we

(21:30):
share the same logo, the same organization, So it's really
good saying braces the brotherhood.

Speaker 7 (21:34):
Now don't have to worry about him anymore.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
Jaln Milrod, thanks so much for joining us on The Insiders.
Congratulations lots of luck in your first rookie mini camp.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
I'm the Insiders. Absolutely. When we return on The Insiders,
we are going to talk about that guy, the second
overall pick, a Traffis.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
Hunter, and also the first overall pick. Camboard, our cam
wolf is going to join us to talk about the
first two picks in the draft when we return.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (22:14):
How you doing, man, Mike Begnes with Tennessee Titans, Sir,
how you doing? I'm doing great, man. You guys doing
well there?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Oh yeah, we're good.

Speaker 13 (22:25):
Yeah, you're good. Hey, listen, you know, as we went
through this whole process here, I can't tell you how
impressed we've been with you, not only the player, but
the person that you are, you know, the leader that
you are. And we couldn't think of any more more
deserving to be this number one pick here and to
represent this franchise. So we're going to turn this pick

(22:45):
in here, making the number one pick. How's that sound good?
Sound good? Listen? Congratulations, Enjoy the moment you deserve it.
Enjoy this moment, your whole family, soak it in. I
can't wait to see you guys here tomorrow, you and
your entire family, and we'll get ready to work here.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Right.

Speaker 12 (23:07):
Hey, Travis is James Gladstone with the Jacksonville Jaguars. How
you doing You know what, go ahead and take a
moment to soak this one in.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
We're trading up in the draft. We're moving from pick five.

Speaker 12 (23:18):
To pick two, and we're doing it because you're the
one we've been hunting up.

Speaker 14 (23:22):
I have the best decision, Travis, real quick. Coach Cohen
just want to say, what's up?

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Man?

Speaker 14 (23:30):
Hey, what an unbelievable opportunity.

Speaker 10 (23:32):
Bro. We're prepared for.

Speaker 14 (23:33):
This, We're excited for this.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Man.

Speaker 14 (23:34):
What a great opportunity to do this thing together. Man,
Let's get it.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Man.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
Well, we showed to the Titans call to cam Ward.
This is cam Ward's tweak, forever humble, because I know
what it's like to be at the bottom. Heat is
no longer at the bottom. Heat is at the very
top of this rookie class. Let's bring in our own
cam cam Wolf. I am probably going to screw that
up a million times this season, Cam Wolf.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
Steve Wright is already back. Can We heard Brian Callahan.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
The Titans coach, this week, talk about having a plan
for how they're going to divvy up the reps among
all the quarterbacks.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
What do you expect how do you expect them to
handle cam Ward in his first camp.

Speaker 15 (24:14):
Yeah, there's nothing more important than cam Ward and Brian Callahan.
They're head coaches relationship, and I talked to Callahan a
few times through this off this process. One thing that
was clear to me is that he has fallen in
love with cam Ward way earlier in the process than
the Titans even made a decision. I was standing on
the sidelines with him in the pro day and he
told me I would turn in the card for cam
Ward right now. And I had some question for him,

(24:36):
because when you look at Callahan's scheme, it doesn't necessarily
scream what cam Ward did in Miami, and he quickly
stopped me. He said, cam Wore can play on time
a lot more than people give him credit, and I'm
going to go about this process a lot like me
and Zach Taylor did with Joe Burrow in Cincinnati, where
he was the offensive coordinator, and so a lot of
the questions come, what did you guys do with that?

Speaker 10 (24:56):
He said.

Speaker 15 (24:57):
I went back and watched my zooms of me and
Joe Burrow from the Cincinnati years during COVID, so everything
was via zoom, and I was really focused on making
that the third year of LSU for Joe Burrow, and
so anticipate them adding a lot of the elements that
cam did in Miami and focus on getting him comfortable early,
on allowing him to be himself. And a lot of

(25:17):
that is putting this People talk about the square peg
in the circle, No, you force it to what you
wanted to be. I think that's really interesting to watch
how they develop him. One thing that was interesting to
me throughout the process, the general manager Mike Borganzi mentioned
the Patrick Mahomes effect. He said, there's some comparison to
him giving the side horom action, the way he goes

(25:38):
about the looseness of the game. That's going to be
the new era. Cam Ward was fourteen when Mahomes got drafted.
A lot of these new quarterbacks are coming through there,
and we trust Callahan to be able to adjust to
what cam Ward has. So that's something I'm going to
be watching throughout camp, throughout the offseason program, how these
two merged together.

Speaker 10 (25:56):
And I know Callahan's plan early will be having cam
Ward earn earn this job.

Speaker 15 (26:00):
He won't be coined TV one from day one, but
I'd anticipate by September, we'll see cam Ward starting for
this Titan franchise.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yeah. Way to go out in a limb there, Cam Wolf.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
He's gonna be the starting quarterback when the season comes run. Well,
look one thing I want to look at it, and
Cam stay here with me. You look at the wide
receivers they got there, added Van Jefferson and Tyler Locket
to go to Calvin Ridley. Right, They've got Traylon Burks
who didn't get his fifth year option picked up, so
he's in a contract year, and they.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Drafted two wide receivers.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
They've got good running backs there with Pollard and Taj Spears,
so the cover is not empty.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
My question to you, though, is they were one.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
In five in the division last year, and you know Jacksonville, Houston,
Indianapolis have smoke on their defensive fronts. Is this offensive
line that added two players in free agency good enough
to stand up and be the piece that lets cam
Ward get this team out of this hole?

Speaker 15 (26:47):
Yeah, it's a great question, Steve. It's really the biggest
question left on this team. They signed Dan Moore at
that spot, but you know, there's some questions about where
he was going into this process. I think one thing
they're going to have to do with cam Ward early,
and it's something I'll talk to Callahan about is getting
the ball out of his hands quickly so that he
does not feel the pressure of immediacy being a rookie.

(27:07):
When he played in Miami, they had a great offensive line.
He had a lot of time, which led to him
being able to play outside of scheme. They've already talked
about getting the ball on screen routes to Calvin Ridley,
getting the ball to their running backs, and trying to
make it a little easier for him to help that
offensive line in.

Speaker 10 (27:22):
Year one as they keep building.

Speaker 15 (27:23):
They've drafted a few guys recently, but it's going to
take some time, Steve, as you mentioned, for that offensive
line to be ready for his franchise quarterback.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
All right, let's move to the second overall pick, Travis Hunter,
two way player, and he's got an idea to play
a third.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
Listen to this.

Speaker 10 (27:39):
You know I can play quarterback too. I can go
to the ball.

Speaker 11 (27:50):
Quarterback, but I chose I disgusted.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
All right, Presumably Trevor Lawrence should not feel threatened. They
are not going to use Travis Hunter as a quarterback.
How do you expect them to deploy him, at least initially, Cam.

Speaker 10 (28:09):
Judy, Travis sounded like Booby Miles there, and I can
throw he's still doing it all.

Speaker 15 (28:15):
The plan for the Jaguars is to have Travis Hunter
start as an offensive player first, as a wide receiver
on the field as he learns that defensive plan.

Speaker 10 (28:23):
That's Liam Cohen's direct words there.

Speaker 15 (28:26):
But one thing to keep in mind, I was in
Cleveland throughout the draft. They saw Travis Hunter as a
wide receiver who can play a package of plays. The
Jaguars truly see Travis Hunter as a two way player.
They think that eventually he'll be able to play full
time on both routes, something that has never been done before.

Speaker 10 (28:42):
But that's why there's so so.

Speaker 15 (28:44):
Much of a perfect match from each other, Jacksonville and
Travis Hunter. They're trying to do something bold, something that
hasn't been done before.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
And I had our research team look up notes.

Speaker 15 (28:52):
Travis Hunter averaged over one hundred and twelve plays per
game in college football.

Speaker 10 (28:57):
No player has ever done that before.

Speaker 15 (28:59):
He played roughly ninety percent of the snaps on both ways,
and the Jags hope that eventually he had that type
of impact on the NFL. And so that's why you
made that trade up number two, not just for him
to be a part time defensive player, for him.

Speaker 10 (29:12):
To really do it all.

Speaker 15 (29:13):
And the coaches on both sides of the ball are
already fighting over time with them and seeing who's gonna
be able to spend the time with them.

Speaker 10 (29:19):
In rookie camp.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
There is not going to be a more interesting player
in the NFL this season than Hunter Cam.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
Steve, thank you very much. Coming up next, Adam Rank
is going to.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
Join the show to talk about this guy, among others.
This is Ashton Genty. He's going to start talking about
what's your fantasy lineup ought to look like when we return.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
You want more of the NFL, You can get more
of the NFL and NFL plus, but don't worry about that.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Worry about this.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Adam Rank's top fantasy football flex players. He's got a
list of one hundred and fifty with Sakwan Barkley at
number one. He'll be along shorty to tell us who's
at one hundred and fifty because I haven't quite gotten
that article yet, but it's in my bookmark. So welcoming
in Rank to go inside with NFL Fantasy Live. We're

(30:15):
going to focus on rookies here, but you are going
to tell me who's won fifty at some point, but
we're going to focus on the rookies that are on
the list, starting with Ashton Genty.

Speaker 16 (30:24):
Yeah, and a lot of people who are fans of
Devon a Chan are upset that he was not in
the top ten. And I'm going to go with the
rookie with Ashton Genty. But I think it's a pretty
good move. I think that when you look at rookie
running backs over the last number of years, typically what
happens is they saunked her in, they play Look at
Bucky Irving last year. You know he split some time
with Rashad White before he eventually took over.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
But there is nobody who is.

Speaker 16 (30:46):
Going to be a roadblock to carries for Ashton Genty.
He is going to hit the ground running. He is
going to be the RB one from day one, and
he's going to get an opportunity with an offense that's
designed by Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly, and so I
know it's kind of a risk and people always accuse
me of going too strong with the rookie running backs.
But there was not a better player in a better

(31:08):
situation that could have happened in this draft. Had he
been drafted by Cleveland, perhaps even gone to Chicago or Dallas,
those wouldn't have been as lucrative for fantasy terms. But
I loved him going to the Raiders, and he's in
my top ten.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Ian Rappaport bless his heart. He was at the Kentucky
Oaks today, probably six or seven mint julips deep. At
this point, He's in an individual defensive player league. I've
never done it. It feels weird. I say that because
I'm bringing up Travis Hunter. We'll talk about him as
a wide receiver, not a d back here.

Speaker 16 (31:40):
Well, it's interesting because there has to be a distinction
of if you get points for him as an individual
defensive player. It kind of reminds me when shohey Otani
first came to Major League Baseball as a member of
the Angels of five, six, seven, eight years ago, you
had to separate his pitching and his hitting statistics. Similarly,
we're going to see the same thing with Travis Hunter
and his cam Wolfe was talking about the two coaches

(32:03):
trying to buy for his attention. The one thing that
I really love about Travis Hunter is that he's going
to go to an offense where he's going to join
Brian Thomas Junior and likely be one of the top options.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
For this offense.

Speaker 16 (32:16):
This is one of the things coming into the drafts
season that everybody was mocking Mason Graham and all these
defensive players at Jacksonville. I'm like, Jacksonville needs offensive players
and they need Travis Hunter to excel on the offensive
side of the football. They're going to find ways to
get him the ball. I'm very I'm listen, I'm very
optimistic that he's going to go out there and have
a huge impact. We saw what Brian Thomas Junior did

(32:38):
last year during his rookie season. I think Travis Hunter
could do something similar.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
All right, look, we're working on a Friday night here.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I don't know that I want to see this, but
apparently they've got to picture of Rapaport at the Oaks today.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Oh no, bring it up.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
What's happening?

Speaker 12 (32:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (32:52):
All right?

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Are those sam and pants? What is that? It's a look?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
You know what rank I wouldn't even give it the
benefit of the doubt on the salmon Leah, you look wonderful.
I love the hat selection. I wonder how she travels
with them, right, Like, if you put him in a bank,
they're going to get how do you do all squashed?

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I guess, but you know what, They've been at this
enough their experience, they know how to do it. Have
a blast Ian RJ. Harvey. Let's let's go to him
on your flex list.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Another rookie.

Speaker 16 (33:19):
Obviously all these are rookies, but I love R J.
Harvey in a situation where it probably couldn't have been
any better. When you think about the history Sean Payton
has had with running backs, you think about guys like
mark Ingram and Alvin Kamara and Reggie Bush back in
the day.

Speaker 17 (33:34):
R J.

Speaker 16 (33:34):
Harvey comes in and again with Audre Gesteme and Julia McLoughlin.

Speaker 14 (33:39):
There.

Speaker 16 (33:39):
I don't think there's much competition for him getting carries.
Now you look at him, his size is not necessarily ideal,
but we've seen running backs of his stature excel in
fantasy football. One of the guys that I think of
is Austin Eckler comes to mind.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
The only drawback.

Speaker 16 (33:55):
Here is that his pass blocking it's not great, it's
a it's a work in progress, and with a lot
of rookie running backs, the pathway to getting on the
field is can you block? Can you be a part
of the pass protection? If he doesn't get that squared away,
that's going to limit his opportunities. But he still has
an opportunity to be a RB two in fantasy football

(34:18):
this season.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
TETTAROA McMillan.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
McMillan, by the way, this is the last day of
disclaimers to tell you that he doesn't like Ted. It's
Tetaroa come Monday. We're not going to tell you that
you better be with the program. TETTAROA McMillan.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
I love the opportunity for him.

Speaker 15 (34:32):
Now.

Speaker 16 (34:33):
Was this the guy that I would have slotted for
the Carolina Panthers and my mock draft It wasn't, But
still you're looking at the opportunity here. And last season
Bryce Young really started to develop as a quarterback. They
invested a lot last year in the offensive line, bringing
in two new guards, but the wide receivers leave a
lot to be desired. Adam Thielen probably passed his prime.
Jalen Kocher had some opportunities. A Zavier Lega, No, it's

(34:56):
not bad McMillan could be the guy who ends up
being the target leader for Carolina. So what we're really
drafting right now is the opportunity on an offense that
we're expecting to throw the ball a lot.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
They do run really well.

Speaker 16 (35:09):
We'll limit him just a touch, but I think there's
enough there for Ted McMillan the season.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
All right, help me in the pronunciations, Kylen guy, guy,
and I know that you know, Oh there he is fifty.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
We got it.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
He's a Chicago bear, you know what.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Honestly, I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 16 (35:30):
I didn't watch a lot of Rutgers football this season,
so Sunday Sunday I set aside sometime after coaching both
my kids' soccer teams, we went out watch some Rutgers football.
I love Kyle Manung guy.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
This is a great player.

Speaker 16 (35:44):
I'm surprised that he laughed, lasted all the way to
the seventh round.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
He is a true bowling ball of a player, similar
to R. J. Harvey.

Speaker 16 (35:52):
The difference here if you ever watch him block now,
this is one of the things that Ben Johnson talked
about when he was in Detroit. No block, no rock,
No block, no rock is Kyle's middle name. Yes, it's
a long name. Kyle, no Block, no rock manung Guy.
This is a player who I think cold have a
significant impact with the Chicago Bears. DeAndre Swift is the

(36:14):
number one back there. I'm not going to argue this.
I'm a bigger DeAndre Swift fan than most people. Kyle
Manungui is going to end up being the number two guy.
I think he passes Ian Wheeler and Roshawn Johnson to
be the number two guy for the Chicago Bears. If
they bring in somebody like Nick Chubb, we can come
back and we can adjust this. But for right now,
Kyle manung Guy is my guy.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
We love to pay off things. We found out who
the one hundred and fiftieth is. I'm also going to
answer the question about the hats. According to Ian, they
get their own suitcase. That's how the hats make it
there in perfect condition. He sent me that along with
another picture there he goes, you look great, Ian Leah,
you look fantastic. I actually do like that blazer right there.
Nobody text me right now going on there. What a

(36:56):
beautiful couple. At least fifty percent of it. Adam Rank,
thank you very much for the information, for the pronunciation
all that good stuff. Eagles exercising Jordan Davis's fifth year option,
so he.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Is under contract for twenty twenty six. The big fella.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Now, look, there could be a big, big payday in
his future, but what he's got to do is step
it up a little bit in year four here. I mean, look,
you saw what Milton Williams, a third round pick, wound
up getting Cameron Wolf.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
What he got on the open market.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
The same thing is available for David's whether it's from
the Eagles or somebody else's a free agent after the
twenty twenty sixth season, we shall see.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
But Jordan Davis, that big bag is out there for you.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Cameron Wolf, we pay you the big bag for the
insight when it comes to all things NFL. So let's
talk about Jordan Davis and what he means.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
To the Eagles.

Speaker 15 (37:48):
Yeah, Jordan Davis obviously is a part of that huge
defensive line that helped them win a championship. He's that
run stuffing call inside and he's going to be a
big part of the push.

Speaker 10 (37:57):
But every year we talk about.

Speaker 15 (37:58):
The Eagles in the draft season, and there's a meme
the breaking bad Jesse Moon. How is Howie Roseman keep
getting away with it? They keep replenishing their needs. And
Jordan Davis Jalen Carter were both at Rookie Mini camp
today and they're part of that initial crew of defensive
stars that have come in and helped them win Super
Bowl title. Now they have the new group and Jahad

(38:19):
Campbell's their first round pick. Here he's sitting on the
sideline for rookie camp dealing with shoulder surgery, but they're
hopeful he'll be able to go closer to the summer
in the fall. But what's interesting about this way of
Howie Rosemen's way is they continue to find ways to
get their best players and it helps them and their
defense turn over. And let's listen to how we discuss
a little bit more about his process.

Speaker 17 (38:41):
Yeah, it's interesting. You know, I think for us that
looking at it when we were done and seeing that
it turned out that we did feel fill some positions
that you know, ideally we would want to fill, but
we didn't really go into it that way. And we
really felt like if we went into it that way,
that we missed opportunity needs to get players that were

(39:02):
really high on our board. But it did work out
that way. You know, in the second round, you know,
Macouba to us, the value of the pick fit for
us the player that we took, and it just so
happened to be a position that we were looking to
address as well. You know, obviously you get to to
we trade it back in round three and you get
to the fourth round and Ty Robinson took down on

(39:23):
our board and we lost a really good player, Mill
Williams at that position. So that worked out for us.
And I think you could go on and on with it,
but really we were sticking to our process. We were
sticking to our board, and I think that sometimes we
look at it and it's like, well does position matter. Well,
if you do have the same grades on guys, then
you can have a discussion, Hey, you know, this is

(39:44):
actually a guy that we like the same value, but
this is maybe a priority position for our football team
and we're going to take them there.

Speaker 15 (39:51):
And yeah, Howie Roseman discussed the importance of youth in
their process. They learned that from the last superl run,
valuing youth to rep place these positions, ten of their
eleven projected defensive starters are still on their rookie contract.
Only guy Zach Bond, who just signed an extension.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
This year is not.

Speaker 15 (40:08):
They are third lowess payday is salary to their defensive
side of the ball, fourth highest on offense. Just showing
how the roster has shifted a completely different way.

Speaker 10 (40:18):
And you heard Howie Roseman talk about some.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Of those picks.

Speaker 15 (40:21):
Andrew mccooba is a guy to watch out for. They
obviously traded c D Chauncey Gardner in the off season.
I'm told they hope that he could potentially start. We're one,
and they think there's a lot of competent comparison to Gardner.

Speaker 10 (40:33):
Johnson and mccouba's game.

Speaker 15 (40:35):
They have a really good young safety coach and Joe
Casper that can help him develop and maybe get another
starter or two out of this draft for Philly.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Mike, does mccouba say things that make people like punch
him in the face on the field, because that would
be cool, Not quite as much Johnson's Okay, I got it,
camera Wolf Listen. They tied it up in Philly, So
go back and watching the philis see you can get
us Victory Powell. Yet, Kennebel dot Com has the top

(41:04):
ten matchups to be announced where when they're going to
be played when the schedule comes out. But here are
the matchups, Judy Batista. The one you're looking forward.

Speaker 17 (41:11):
To is.

Speaker 7 (41:13):
Obviously Packers at Steelers. Come on, Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Those are Bills offense, offense, offense. If Joey be can
go three and oh against Josh.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yep Lions and Eagles, folks, that should be the opener.
I hope you're listening to New York. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Back Monday with the Insiders
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