On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Colts first-round pick Laiatu Latu joins Cam from the Sack Summit in Las Vegas. The guys start out talking about how Laiatu’s college football journey from University of Washington to UCLA. He then shares how in shock he was to be the first defensive player taken in the 2024 Draft. Cam then gives Laiatu advice on how to achieve his goals as a young player entering the league. Laiatu then shares what he’s looking forward to learning at the Sack Summit hosted by Cam, Von Miller and Maxx Crosby. Laiatu also names the pass rushers he believes his game compares to. And Cam and Laiatu discuss college football realignment and the Cal vs. UCLA rivalry. That, and much more! So, tap in!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome on in. Here we go another episode of Off
the Edge with me your host Cam Jordan, And I'm
just I'm just excited I'm here at the Las Vegas
Sack Summit, you know, myself, Max Crosby von Miller putting
on this collective of edge rushers, of past rushers, of
defensive line men, just on the men part, because I mean,
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I just feel like it takes a real man to
get into trenches, and here we are, hopefully the future
of the trenches. My guy, Lie too Lot too, appreciate you, man,
Did I say that right? Lie too Lot too? Yeah,
somewhere in there, I appreciate you tapping in with the cast.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Man. No, I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I mean I've been watching you since pretty much high
school college ball year.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Look like you was up up there, you know, Sacramento
Sacktown Finance. You guys, you guys had some some guys
go through. Eric Armstead, the Carl Granderson's Shaq Thompson. Of
course I played with Shaq Thompson's older brother for real,
cow bro.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Really yeah, Thompson, Dann, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's what I'm saying. I'm old in this thing, but
I mean so for you to get to Let's just
talk about how you even get to UCLA from Sack.
How do you pass up the bank? Your brother's at
at Cal.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We just pass up. I know I was.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I was loving Cal too because I knew Jack Clark,
their rugby coach, and he was loving me too, so
I was gonna go play rugby there too. Rugby, Yeah,
I was doing all the col like the little they
had like high school camps every summer. I was going
to that like every summer, and just like the we
about camps, Well, no, it's like high school. So like
they're trying to earn like tags, because like you can't
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earn a full scholarship, but you can earn like a
tag to get in. But I was just going out
there because I love rugby, So I was just doing
my thing. I was going to play rugby on the
side too. But I mean, coach Peterson came in for
a home visit and just changed my whole mind, changed
everything about the game. Like he's coming in talking about
you know, it's not about the next four years, but
it's about the next forty years. And like as a
high school I was kind of like nervous going on
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the next steps and like he just kind of made
it comfortable for me.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, dang yeah. And so you went on to that
soft ass blue I mean the powder blue and gold
down to U C l A and y'all. Y'all got
us this past season, not the year before. But I'm
not I'm not gonna lie to you, bro. I have
nothing but hopes and dreams for Cal. But it's been
a rough ten years to watch. Like when I was there,
it was first rounders at the first round, you know,
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it was job at Best and before him, you know whatever,
it was Marshawn Lynch and before him, like there was
always a first round or plus talent beyond the second
round is crazy, you know. And then after that, I
think I was the last first round picked till Jared
Goff and then since Jerry really hasn't been the.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
First round nobody.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
You know that tells you about the program.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I Mean my brother went through a lot of things
there too, negative things too, So I'm glad you're about it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
There, man, you know, like it's I got hopes and
dreams for Cal. But so you go through UCLA, you
get drafted teeth, throt roll and fiftee through row doesn't
tell the true story because really you're like a lottery pick.
You're the first defensive player to be taking off the board.
You know, tell me how that felt in the green
room because this year they changes every year, so you know,
you're in the green room and you're like, yeah, you
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think you're gonna go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I wasn't even thinking about it at first, and I
didn't know I was the first defensive person. Like when
I'm back, I was sweating through my suit, nervous and
like walking back and forth. But once I learned about
it afterwards, I was like, damn, that's crazy. Like I
just felt like, you know, like him dunk kind of yeah.
But I didn't know how to describe those feelings, like
it's just it was crazy this everything that I've been
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through them to be like the first defense is coming
pretty yeah the next morning.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Big ink.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, one of these days, I'm gonna give me a
big piece of ink too.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Now you got to.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That. Did it hurt?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Certain parts hurt bro the inside the inside bike.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Keep I keep hearing about the like the inside arm
and then like the this part, I was sweating, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Okay, but you're gonna be silid. You can get some
numbers spray too, no, no before like a man, but
the numbers. The only thing I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Do is get this legacy. Bro, Like I'm gonna get
the legacy. Chap hops on me and then meal and
then if if my son act the.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Right way, you get the other boy get on your thigh. Yeah, bro,
I got this like piece right here. But she did
it kind of small, so I say go big, like
you gotta go big.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
If I'm gonna have one piece to like stand on,
it's gonna be the legacy. So you can draft this.
Tell me, tell me what's your biggest adjustment so far
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Biggest adjustment is really just we're just getting used to
the facility, like being comfortable in there, like knowing where
to go and stuff like that. That's really the biggest adjustment.
Other than that, on the field is great. I just
get to learn more about pastress. I mean, I'm I'm
pretty like well off when I'm in the indies and
stuff like that. Like I can do the drills up
to you know how quitting them are doing it, learning
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the plays. That's it's not crazy hard, especially when you
got dudes like e Buck and and Quitty so saw
them helping out too, So I mean, I'm at a
great place.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You're sort of stacked that line. Yeah, you're sort of stacked.
If you think about de Buck and how he just
got the extension, so he gonna be saying like he's
gonna be there, and he's there's probably top as they
come in terms of tiror d Lineman and of course Quitty.
You and now you're like, you're already formidable, and then
they already got two other defensive ends.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You're like, I'm saying, the run game is gonna go
crazy with Raycon Davis and Grove Grover Stewart bru. I
know we're gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It looked good on paper and then and then the
season takes off. And I've had seasons where you look
phenomenal on paper, like were about to kill him, and
then you end up like what happened? Or you would
be like, ah, we'll be all right, and the stellar season.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So I mean, it's usually always the same thing that
like is why y'all can't like win, even though you
think you know you got a team.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It's always the same.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
It's little like you could have an excellent team, excellent
you know, players at each position, but it's about like,
how are you gelling as a defense, how are you
gelling as a team? What's your locker room? Right? It's
literally a game of interest for that reason. So you're
going to have those times where it's like, bro, we're
always so close. There was one season where we lost
like six or seven games, but they were all by
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like one score or less. It was all like, oh
we lost by four, we lost by three. So those
interests that cleanup is the difference can be like, oh,
I didn't you know I rushed high and my other
defensive rush high. So quarterback escaped a couple of times,
led some leaky yardists, lead to whatever it was, or
it's whatever, whatever it is. It's always you can always
turn on the film, but like point out two or
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three things like, bro, we were just tighten up on here.
And so even like you look at it on some
of the best seasons where you go thirteen to three
or whatever it is, you're like, yo, we're winning these
games by this like a slim margin, but we're winning them.
And it's because, like, Bro, I know exactly where my
D line is or I can see the sync that's
happening on offense, Like I see all these routes being
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ran in practice hitting, so they're hitting in the game,
and so you're practicing these these habits and killing it
in practice, so it just transfers over to the game.
So I mean the advice for you early is just
create your best habits in practice so you're true to
your motor.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, now that's what that's That's one thing that I've
been noticing too, because everybody bringing it every day.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Man, man, hey, lunch pail going to work, because that's
your craft. This is your craft. Like it's one thing
to like it, one thing to love it. It's another
thing to earn it. You know, everybody can say, oh
I love this, but do you really are you putting
in the work? Are you showing up at six seven
o'clock in the morning to get your work out in
before the words or are you in your prehabit which
prehab now is all world because when I first got
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the league, you were like, damned if you hit the
three recab room. Are you like, oh you hurt? No, bro,
I'm just I'm just trying to get you know, my
mobilities now It's like, are you not in the rehab room?
Are you not stretching? Are you not a plate? No, bro,
I'm not a pilot. I'm not a yogi. Kiss my whole, dear.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
We'll be right back, but I mean, so, so now
you're here Las Vegas at the Sack Summit, just just
tell me what you're looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I'm really just looking forward to, you know, what all
the vest got to say, and just little things I
can pick up on to you know, improve my game,
especially in like that power mode and how to work
off your power to to finesse or you know, just
really how to work off that power where there's counter
after or edge move after. But really just trying to
like hopefully I can like get a better understanding of that,
like while I'm here.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
To create these teching combos. Yeah, so it's all about
more moves, you know. You you look at the you know,
the pass rushers. You got t j Y, you know,
hit you with the hits you that the rip and
then that tuck been.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I've been wrapping that hella, wrapping that hella.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You know you good past ot as. Now you're out here,
you say you're trading out.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
In l A.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah you still you still like you cla training.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Out now you still they still got my fingerprint there,
still putting in work.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
There like like yeah, coach, I ain't leave, I'm here
work all right. So so as you're going in, so
you're breaking down film, who are you trying to immolate
your past rush games after?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Really like it's Max Frost T J. Watt type creating havoc.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, really just creating having getting off that rock, playing
with like that relentless effort. That's why I like mass
carsby a lot too, because like he played like it's
his last snap pretty much every time, right, And so
I mean when he's working one move to another, that's
how I'm trying to be. Like I'm trying to be
no stop working to move, not stop getting to the QB.
And you know, I'm really just trying to like incorporate
that in my game, right.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Six.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, I remember, uh, you know, just because we've got
saying the same agents. You know, I remember the draft
comparison with Trey Hendrickson. I was like, bro, he got
like three inches on tree speed off the edge, Like
who do you like? Who do you think your game
most resembles.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I feel like, I mean, it's a stress because I
don't like, you know, y'all y'all crazy, y'all. You know, y'all,
y'all town is crazy. But I mean I feel like Crosby,
like t J. Watt, just in terms of like body sized,
body type, in terms of moves.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Max next to six four six five. But bro, me
and Max are all close. You got me by like
an injury and half, I swear, But I mean just
your passion from when I first met you at the
draft till now, you just seem like you genuinely, like
genuinely love the game. Yeah, and that like I can
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feel that, you know, like, what is it about you
not taking the game for granted, you going through your injuries,
whatever it is to get you here? What makes you
love the game or whatever it is at this point.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
At first, it was that like that brotherhood and that's
still a thing for me, like that brotherhood, that camarderie
in the locker room and all that, Like I lived
for that. But when that was like taking away and
I had to really be on my own, I had to,
like you know, because I was treating football like it's
my job already. So once that was taken away. I
really yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And so like before before the neck.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Injury, I treated football like a job already, this is
what I wanted to do. And once it was like
taking away, it's kind of like damn, Like you know,
it's not like what do I do now, it's just
you know what, you know, do I want to continue
like working like like I want to you know, gain
you know this act and like look for clearance. And
I really told myself like if it's not football, it's nothing.
And I really just worked every day like there was
a game that weekend. I was working like you know,
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I was going to get that clearance. So I was
in the locker room, I was in the meeting rooms
at times, you know, watching stuff. But really like I
was talking to my coach back at you do, coach Molloy,
like he was like the one person really that was
like you know, pushing me to keep training and keep
doing what I can to get on the field because
I knew my body, I knew you know, what I
could what I could keep doing. I went to go
(11:28):
do rugby two weeks after or two months after my
surgery and trying to get back to football. Yeah, out
here popping popping. But that's but that's what I'm saying.
I'm going back to like some of my roots because
it helped me like push through. So like the conditioning,
I got to stay on top of my conditioning. But
then it was like a test to myself because the
grown man running out, grown men running out there, and
you know, I want to test like myself where I
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could tackle, knock and run with him. And I went
out there, I was doing that, popping these old men.
So I mean, you know, that just gave me more
confidence to be like, you know, I can still do
this football thing. And so that just really carried me
on and found the clearance. Like a couple of months later, shout.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Out to Rugby. Never didn't see that, but no doubt
give you that love back to the game. Yeah, oh man,
I mean you got brothers that that play football as well.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, my little brother over at Washington Kalecki, that's where
you went to. Yeah, lots of good I know, bro,
he a hard worker. Two and yeah it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So yeah you dubbed Now, Okay, Still, I was gonna
say they played stayed in the pack. How do you
feel about the pack? I don't in the pack anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I don't like it because, like I feel like that's
the best conference by far, just because it's always unpredictable.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Man, you have no idea, Like it's so much inner, Like, yeah,
we could be so good, except we're so destructive towards
each other.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And I don't even really like I don't like watch
football like that unless it's like film, but like Pato
maybe want to watch because like it was just like
you never knew what was going to happen, like.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Arizona, Arizona takeoff, yeah, or State just took and then
I know now I don't even know where I don't
even know where these schools ended up.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Pack at like Oregon stay in Washington, stay are like
in their own little thing with Mountain West teams.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think, huh, so they're gonna run that.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Cayles Stanford is joined the ACC, which a West Coast
team now plays predominantly East Coast teams. How does that
even work? Yeah, the flight's gonna be all school started
this ship U c l A. You see went over
to the big big twelve.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
That's true. We did start it. I don't know why though.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
The Big ten is.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Don't even know how many schools is in the Big ten.
That's just misleading. There's fourteen ten, there's thirteen schools in
Big twelve. Pack made the most sense. It was a
pack eight. We expanded to Pack ten, Pack ten to
pac twelve. You keep up with how many schools you have?
Big ten over there, like the SEC, they don't know
what they want to do.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I can't read clearly. I'm upset about that, all right.
So what do you do in your free time when
you're not training, when you're not getting ready?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Shoot, I'm like an outdoors person, so like I'll be outside.
I don't hunt. I want to get into NYO. No
one's ever taking me though, but I want to get.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
You come down to Louisiana. There's there's nothing, and I'm
gonna leave that alone. But yeah, bro, so outdoors like
you're talking about, like being Mexican biking.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
To just really going to the beach is like looking
at you know, kind of scenery or whatever. But listening
to music, I don't serve.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
If no said going to the beach, I'm just throwing through.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Okay, I'm like a chill guy like I'm a I'm
a boring type guy, Like I'll just go outside, be
by myself, listen to music, Okay, yeah, and then football
is all my life.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So I feel like the.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Main thing, the main thing, absolutely, bro. You got to
you know what I mean. You're going from you know,
thirteen games in college was fourteen games now yeah, to
now you enter in a seventeen week situation.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah. I heard about that with three preseason games.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So really for you your first year, you eating twenty games.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, that's why people were asking me, like, you know
you're trying to go anywhere like this off season.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm really like.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Noah, like a football season coming.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Up, just like especially my first year, Like, let me
just lock in real quick.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Absolutely all right, So what you what you're looking forward
to your first year? Do you have goals? Sat down,
dide like, I'm gonna tell you this. Like when I
got drafted, I literally sat down. I was like, all right,
this time'n win, Like I'm gonna have eight sacks I
put up. I put up these these goals that meant
nothing because I didn't have the road to get to
the goal.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Right, I was like, I'm gonna have eight sacks, i'mna
have fifty tackles and like ten ti fils. And that
didn't set up any of that because I'm like, that's
how like that's what I want. But I tell myself
how I was going to get there. I see, you know, Like,
so do you have goals in mind?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I really only have one as rookie Defensive Player of
the Year, and I haven't set up like structurally what
I want to do, but like I just take it
as like every moment I can, I'm trying to put
you know, whether it's film, where it's on the field
stuff where I'm going through like you know, walking through steps,
doing passion and stuff like that. When I'm doing some
any type of thing dedicated to football with my time on,
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I feel like that's gonna help me lead me to,
you know, being able to achieve that. So it's really
just taking any time like I have, like free and
like being smart about it too, like you know, taking
my curvery time whatever. But anytime I have I really
dedicated to football.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I love it all. Listen to music, all right, stay tuned,
we'll be right back. Game day in college. Now, you pros,
what are you listening to?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Show a little bit of everything really, like some rod
if R and B song will like you know, make
in Yeah, I'll listen to that. Some Bob Marley here
and like you know, some rap here, a little bit
of everything.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Uh now this is Motley Crew.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I don't know what that means. I have not heard
that name in years for real. Come on, I assume
that's rock?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Is that? Yeah? I love all type of music.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
We let Apple, we let the play lists play, and
like if if it posps up, there's no music I
won't listen to. E said possibly blue grass. Let me
not say that out loud, because like bluegrass is just
too too country for me really, but like I love
all music country, I love I can. I finally can
get behind country. And it took Louisiana to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Really, Yeah, come.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
On, because I'm coming from the West Coast and like
I went from you know, high school. For me, I'm
I was big four x tall teas heh fee movement
strong out there, you know what I'm saying. I'm like,
as soon as like the college I got my eight slug,
I'm like I need I need that bottom gold grill,
Like you know what I'm saying. So like country music
was the furthest thing away from where I was going on.
(17:39):
I think Sojio Boy might have might have been hitting
his tride.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
No facts.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I grew listening to mac drestills like that to my mom.
Mom listening to any type of music, like country, rab
like R and B. So she was just listening to
anything that sounded good. I think that's what.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know, you had temptations had I had? I you know,
I had old black Christian mom. You know what I'm saying.
I'm in the car listen to everything but nothing but
R and B. You know, all the old school joints.
The pop's gonna bring in the disco vibe like the
afro the afro disco, afro af vibes hitting it heavy man.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, she loved in there did.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Not bring me the Motley Crew.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Really, that's that's what you watched the movie. The movie
is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I'm not big on movies though, Like there's there's a
time and place for everything. And for some reason the
last couple of years, I've been so far away from
me too.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I haven't been watching a lot either. But I watched
it back when I was that you do. I thought
it was a good movie and it's on my shirt
and we were talking about it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, I'm not gonna get there, but I love that
for you. Okay, do you play instruments? Okay, I played
the recording. Love that. I love that because I'm like,
I'm like, i'd love to. In fact, a couple of
off seasons, I've bought a guitar try to learn it. Yeah,
I'm not musically inclined.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Nah, I want to learn to play the piano.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Tried that too, Yeah yeah, in fact, I tried it
and then my brother brother in law picked it up
and now he's amazing. So shout out to see him
at a Bally for you, pushing out the great piano
vibes and like he has an ear for it. He'll
like hear a song and really figure it out. And
I'm like, huh, yeah, you can't get to I got
nothing for you. It's like it's like me when I'm
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I'm typing on the computer, everybody's here with it. I'm like, yeah,
I got this.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
No, but you're doing it quick though.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I'm doing the same ways, just like this not looking up.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It's evil work. But shoot, okay, hey bro, like I
want to make this quick. I just appreciate you stopping
on the pod. Bro, appreciate I wish you nothing but
the highest form of success. You deserve everything that's coming
your way, and you clearly have earned the right to
be in this league. So this first year, I'm gonna say,
don't put heavy expectations on you, but have the mindset
that you already have. You got to earn it each
every day. So appreciate you just stopping on the pod,
(20:02):
you know, off the edge with your host. Kim Jordan's
lied to lied too up in this thing. If you
want to say, right, correct me.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You got to lie to lie too.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yes, Okay, I'm sure there's a middle name in there
that I'm not.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Even gonna try.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But appreciate you, my guy.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I appreciate you.
Welcome on in. Here we go another episode of Off
the Edge with me your host Cam Jordan, And I'm
just I'm just excited I'm here at the Las Vegas
Sack Summit, you know, myself, Max Crosby von Miller putting
on this collective of edge rushers, of past rushers, of
defensive line men, just on the men part, because I mean,
(00:24):
I just feel like it takes a real man to
get into trenches, and here we are, hopefully the future
of the trenches. My guy, Lie too Lot too, appreciate you, man,
Did I say that right? Lie too Lot too? Yeah,
somewhere in there, I appreciate you tapping in with the cast.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Man. No, I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I mean I've been watching you since pretty much high
school college ball year.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Look like you was up up there, you know, Sacramento
Sacktown Finance. You guys, you guys had some some guys
go through. Eric Armstead, the Carl Granderson's Shaq Thompson. Of
course I played with Shaq Thompson's older brother for real,
cow bro.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Really yeah, Thompson, Dann, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's what I'm saying. I'm old in this thing, but
I mean so for you to get to Let's just
talk about how you even get to UCLA from Sack.
How do you pass up the bank? Your brother's at
at Cal.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We just pass up. I know I was.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I was loving Cal too because I knew Jack Clark,
their rugby coach, and he was loving me too, so
I was gonna go play rugby there too. Rugby, Yeah,
I was doing all the col like the little they
had like high school camps every summer. I was going
to that like every summer, and just like the we
about camps, Well, no, it's like high school. So like
they're trying to earn like tags, because like you can't
(01:39):
earn a full scholarship, but you can earn like a
tag to get in. But I was just going out
there because I love rugby, So I was just doing
my thing. I was going to play rugby on the
side too. But I mean, coach Peterson came in for
a home visit and just changed my whole mind, changed
everything about the game. Like he's coming in talking about
you know, it's not about the next four years, but
it's about the next forty years. And like as a
high school I was kind of like nervous going on
(02:01):
the next steps and like he just kind of made
it comfortable for me.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, dang yeah. And so you went on to that
soft ass blue I mean the powder blue and gold
down to U C l A and y'all. Y'all got
us this past season, not the year before. But I'm
not I'm not gonna lie to you, bro. I have
nothing but hopes and dreams for Cal. But it's been
a rough ten years to watch. Like when I was there,
it was first rounders at the first round, you know,
(02:27):
it was job at Best and before him, you know whatever,
it was Marshawn Lynch and before him, like there was
always a first round or plus talent beyond the second
round is crazy, you know. And then after that, I
think I was the last first round picked till Jared
Goff and then since Jerry really hasn't been the.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
First round nobody.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
You know that tells you about the program.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I Mean my brother went through a lot of things
there too, negative things too, So I'm glad you're about it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
There, man, you know, like it's I got hopes and
dreams for Cal. But so you go through UCLA, you
get drafted teeth, throt roll and fiftee through row doesn't
tell the true story because really you're like a lottery pick.
You're the first defensive player to be taking off the board.
You know, tell me how that felt in the green
room because this year they changes every year, so you know,
you're in the green room and you're like, yeah, you
(03:15):
think you're gonna go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I wasn't even thinking about it at first, and I
didn't know I was the first defensive person. Like when
I'm back, I was sweating through my suit, nervous and
like walking back and forth. But once I learned about
it afterwards, I was like, damn, that's crazy. Like I
just felt like, you know, like him dunk kind of yeah.
But I didn't know how to describe those feelings, like
it's just it was crazy this everything that I've been
(03:38):
through them to be like the first defense is coming
pretty yeah the next morning.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Big ink.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, one of these days, I'm gonna give me a
big piece of ink too.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Now you got to.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That. Did it hurt?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Certain parts hurt bro the inside the inside bike.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Keep I keep hearing about the like the inside arm
and then like the this part, I was sweating, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Okay, but you're gonna be silid. You can get some
numbers spray too, no, no before like a man, but
the numbers. The only thing I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Do is get this legacy. Bro, Like I'm gonna get
the legacy. Chap hops on me and then meal and
then if if my son act the.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Right way, you get the other boy get on your thigh. Yeah, bro,
I got this like piece right here. But she did
it kind of small, so I say go big, like
you gotta go big.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
If I'm gonna have one piece to like stand on,
it's gonna be the legacy. So you can draft this.
Tell me, tell me what's your biggest adjustment so far
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Biggest adjustment is really just we're just getting used to
the facility, like being comfortable in there, like knowing where
to go and stuff like that. That's really the biggest adjustment.
Other than that, on the field is great. I just
get to learn more about pastress. I mean, I'm I'm
pretty like well off when I'm in the indies and
stuff like that. Like I can do the drills up
to you know how quitting them are doing it, learning
(04:56):
the plays. That's it's not crazy hard, especially when you
got dudes like e Buck and and Quitty so saw
them helping out too, So I mean, I'm at a
great place.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You're sort of stacked that line. Yeah, you're sort of stacked.
If you think about de Buck and how he just
got the extension, so he gonna be saying like he's
gonna be there, and he's there's probably top as they
come in terms of tiror d Lineman and of course Quitty.
You and now you're like, you're already formidable, and then
they already got two other defensive ends.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You're like, I'm saying, the run game is gonna go
crazy with Raycon Davis and Grove Grover Stewart bru. I
know we're gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It looked good on paper and then and then the
season takes off. And I've had seasons where you look
phenomenal on paper, like were about to kill him, and
then you end up like what happened? Or you would
be like, ah, we'll be all right, and the stellar season.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So I mean, it's usually always the same thing that
like is why y'all can't like win, even though you
think you know you got a team.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It's always the same.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
It's little like you could have an excellent team, excellent
you know, players at each position, but it's about like,
how are you gelling as a defense, how are you
gelling as a team? What's your locker room? Right? It's
literally a game of interest for that reason. So you're
going to have those times where it's like, bro, we're
always so close. There was one season where we lost
like six or seven games, but they were all by
(06:14):
like one score or less. It was all like, oh
we lost by four, we lost by three. So those
interests that cleanup is the difference can be like, oh,
I didn't you know I rushed high and my other
defensive rush high. So quarterback escaped a couple of times,
led some leaky yardists, lead to whatever it was, or
it's whatever, whatever it is. It's always you can always
turn on the film, but like point out two or
(06:35):
three things like, bro, we were just tighten up on here.
And so even like you look at it on some
of the best seasons where you go thirteen to three
or whatever it is, you're like, yo, we're winning these
games by this like a slim margin, but we're winning them.
And it's because, like, Bro, I know exactly where my
D line is or I can see the sync that's
happening on offense, Like I see all these routes being
(06:57):
ran in practice hitting, so they're hitting in the game,
and so you're practicing these these habits and killing it
in practice, so it just transfers over to the game.
So I mean the advice for you early is just
create your best habits in practice so you're true to
your motor.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, now that's what that's That's one thing that I've
been noticing too, because everybody bringing it every day.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Man, man, hey, lunch pail going to work, because that's
your craft. This is your craft. Like it's one thing
to like it, one thing to love it. It's another
thing to earn it. You know, everybody can say, oh
I love this, but do you really are you putting
in the work? Are you showing up at six seven
o'clock in the morning to get your work out in
before the words or are you in your prehabit which
prehab now is all world because when I first got
(07:37):
the league, you were like, damned if you hit the
three recab room. Are you like, oh you hurt? No, bro,
I'm just I'm just trying to get you know, my
mobilities now It's like, are you not in the rehab room?
Are you not stretching? Are you not a plate? No, bro,
I'm not a pilot. I'm not a yogi. Kiss my whole, dear.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
We'll be right back, but I mean, so, so now
you're here Las Vegas at the Sack Summit, just just
tell me what you're looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I'm really just looking forward to, you know, what all
the vest got to say, and just little things I
can pick up on to you know, improve my game,
especially in like that power mode and how to work
off your power to to finesse or you know, just
really how to work off that power where there's counter
after or edge move after. But really just trying to
like hopefully I can like get a better understanding of that,
like while I'm here.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
To create these teching combos. Yeah, so it's all about
more moves, you know. You you look at the you know,
the pass rushers. You got t j Y, you know,
hit you with the hits you that the rip and
then that tuck been.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I've been wrapping that hella, wrapping that hella.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You know you good past ot as. Now you're out here,
you say you're trading out.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
In l A.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah you still you still like you cla training.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Out now you still they still got my fingerprint there,
still putting in work.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
There like like yeah, coach, I ain't leave, I'm here
work all right. So so as you're going in, so
you're breaking down film, who are you trying to immolate
your past rush games after?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Really like it's Max Frost T J. Watt type creating havoc.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, really just creating having getting off that rock, playing
with like that relentless effort. That's why I like mass
carsby a lot too, because like he played like it's
his last snap pretty much every time, right, And so
I mean when he's working one move to another, that's
how I'm trying to be. Like I'm trying to be
no stop working to move, not stop getting to the QB.
And you know, I'm really just trying to like incorporate
that in my game, right.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Six.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, I remember, uh, you know, just because we've got
saying the same agents. You know, I remember the draft
comparison with Trey Hendrickson. I was like, bro, he got
like three inches on tree speed off the edge, Like
who do you like? Who do you think your game
most resembles.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I feel like, I mean, it's a stress because I
don't like, you know, y'all y'all crazy, y'all. You know, y'all,
y'all town is crazy. But I mean I feel like Crosby,
like t J. Watt, just in terms of like body sized,
body type, in terms of moves.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Max next to six four six five. But bro, me
and Max are all close. You got me by like
an injury and half, I swear, But I mean just
your passion from when I first met you at the
draft till now, you just seem like you genuinely, like
genuinely love the game. Yeah, and that like I can
(10:18):
feel that, you know, like, what is it about you
not taking the game for granted, you going through your injuries,
whatever it is to get you here? What makes you
love the game or whatever it is at this point.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
At first, it was that like that brotherhood and that's
still a thing for me, like that brotherhood, that camarderie
in the locker room and all that, Like I lived
for that. But when that was like taking away and
I had to really be on my own, I had to,
like you know, because I was treating football like it's
my job already. So once that was taken away. I
really yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And so like before before the neck.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Injury, I treated football like a job already, this is
what I wanted to do. And once it was like
taking away, it's kind of like damn, Like you know,
it's not like what do I do now, it's just
you know what, you know, do I want to continue
like working like like I want to you know, gain
you know this act and like look for clearance. And
I really told myself like if it's not football, it's nothing.
And I really just worked every day like there was
a game that weekend. I was working like you know,
(11:08):
I was going to get that clearance. So I was
in the locker room, I was in the meeting rooms
at times, you know, watching stuff. But really like I
was talking to my coach back at you do, coach Molloy,
like he was like the one person really that was
like you know, pushing me to keep training and keep
doing what I can to get on the field because
I knew my body, I knew you know, what I
could what I could keep doing. I went to go
(11:28):
do rugby two weeks after or two months after my
surgery and trying to get back to football. Yeah, out
here popping popping. But that's but that's what I'm saying.
I'm going back to like some of my roots because
it helped me like push through. So like the conditioning,
I got to stay on top of my conditioning. But
then it was like a test to myself because the
grown man running out, grown men running out there, and
you know, I want to test like myself where I
(11:49):
could tackle, knock and run with him. And I went
out there, I was doing that, popping these old men.
So I mean, you know, that just gave me more
confidence to be like, you know, I can still do
this football thing. And so that just really carried me
on and found the clearance. Like a couple of months later, shout.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Out to Rugby. Never didn't see that, but no doubt
give you that love back to the game. Yeah, oh man,
I mean you got brothers that that play football as well.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, my little brother over at Washington Kalecki, that's where
you went to. Yeah, lots of good I know, bro,
he a hard worker. Two and yeah it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So yeah you dubbed Now, Okay, Still, I was gonna
say they played stayed in the pack. How do you
feel about the pack? I don't in the pack anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I don't like it because, like I feel like that's
the best conference by far, just because it's always unpredictable.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Man, you have no idea, Like it's so much inner, Like, yeah,
we could be so good, except we're so destructive towards
each other.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And I don't even really like I don't like watch
football like that unless it's like film, but like Pato
maybe want to watch because like it was just like
you never knew what was going to happen, like.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Arizona, Arizona takeoff, yeah, or State just took and then
I know now I don't even know where I don't
even know where these schools ended up.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Pack at like Oregon stay in Washington, stay are like
in their own little thing with Mountain West teams.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think, huh, so they're gonna run that.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Cayles Stanford is joined the ACC, which a West Coast
team now plays predominantly East Coast teams. How does that
even work? Yeah, the flight's gonna be all school started
this ship U c l A. You see went over
to the big big twelve.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
That's true. We did start it. I don't know why though.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
The Big ten is.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Don't even know how many schools is in the Big ten.
That's just misleading. There's fourteen ten, there's thirteen schools in
Big twelve. Pack made the most sense. It was a
pack eight. We expanded to Pack ten, Pack ten to
pac twelve. You keep up with how many schools you have?
Big ten over there, like the SEC, they don't know
what they want to do.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I can't read clearly. I'm upset about that, all right.
So what do you do in your free time when
you're not training, when you're not getting ready?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Shoot, I'm like an outdoors person, so like I'll be outside.
I don't hunt. I want to get into NYO. No
one's ever taking me though, but I want to get.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
You come down to Louisiana. There's there's nothing, and I'm
gonna leave that alone. But yeah, bro, so outdoors like
you're talking about, like being Mexican biking.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
To just really going to the beach is like looking
at you know, kind of scenery or whatever. But listening
to music, I don't serve.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
If no said going to the beach, I'm just throwing through.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Okay, I'm like a chill guy like I'm a I'm
a boring type guy, Like I'll just go outside, be
by myself, listen to music, Okay, yeah, and then football
is all my life.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So I feel like the.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Main thing, the main thing, absolutely, bro. You got to
you know what I mean. You're going from you know,
thirteen games in college was fourteen games now yeah, to
now you enter in a seventeen week situation.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah. I heard about that with three preseason games.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So really for you your first year, you eating twenty games.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, that's why people were asking me, like, you know
you're trying to go anywhere like this off season.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm really like.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Noah, like a football season coming.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Up, just like especially my first year, Like, let me
just lock in real quick.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Absolutely all right, So what you what you're looking forward
to your first year? Do you have goals? Sat down,
dide like, I'm gonna tell you this. Like when I
got drafted, I literally sat down. I was like, all right,
this time'n win, Like I'm gonna have eight sacks I
put up. I put up these these goals that meant
nothing because I didn't have the road to get to
the goal.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Right, I was like, I'm gonna have eight sacks, i'mna
have fifty tackles and like ten ti fils. And that
didn't set up any of that because I'm like, that's
how like that's what I want. But I tell myself
how I was going to get there. I see, you know, Like,
so do you have goals in mind?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I really only have one as rookie Defensive Player of
the Year, and I haven't set up like structurally what
I want to do, but like I just take it
as like every moment I can, I'm trying to put
you know, whether it's film, where it's on the field
stuff where I'm going through like you know, walking through steps,
doing passion and stuff like that. When I'm doing some
any type of thing dedicated to football with my time on,
(16:00):
I feel like that's gonna help me lead me to,
you know, being able to achieve that. So it's really
just taking any time like I have, like free and
like being smart about it too, like you know, taking
my curvery time whatever. But anytime I have I really
dedicated to football.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I love it all. Listen to music, all right, stay tuned,
we'll be right back. Game day in college. Now, you pros,
what are you listening to?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Show a little bit of everything really, like some rod
if R and B song will like you know, make
in Yeah, I'll listen to that. Some Bob Marley here
and like you know, some rap here, a little bit
of everything.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Uh now this is Motley Crew.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I don't know what that means. I have not heard
that name in years for real. Come on, I assume
that's rock?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Is that? Yeah? I love all type of music.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
We let Apple, we let the play lists play, and
like if if it posps up, there's no music I
won't listen to. E said possibly blue grass. Let me
not say that out loud, because like bluegrass is just
too too country for me really, but like I love
all music country, I love I can. I finally can
get behind country. And it took Louisiana to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Really, Yeah, come.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
On, because I'm coming from the West Coast and like
I went from you know, high school. For me, I'm
I was big four x tall teas heh fee movement
strong out there, you know what I'm saying. I'm like,
as soon as like the college I got my eight slug,
I'm like I need I need that bottom gold grill,
Like you know what I'm saying. So like country music
was the furthest thing away from where I was going on.
(17:39):
I think Sojio Boy might have might have been hitting
his tride.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
No facts.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I grew listening to mac drestills like that to my mom.
Mom listening to any type of music, like country, rab
like R and B. So she was just listening to
anything that sounded good. I think that's what.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know, you had temptations had I had? I you know,
I had old black Christian mom. You know what I'm saying.
I'm in the car listen to everything but nothing but
R and B. You know, all the old school joints.
The pop's gonna bring in the disco vibe like the
afro the afro disco, afro af vibes hitting it heavy man.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, she loved in there did.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Not bring me the Motley Crew.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Really, that's that's what you watched the movie. The movie
is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I'm not big on movies though, Like there's there's a
time and place for everything. And for some reason the
last couple of years, I've been so far away from
me too.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I haven't been watching a lot either. But I watched
it back when I was that you do. I thought
it was a good movie and it's on my shirt
and we were talking about it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, I'm not gonna get there, but I love that
for you. Okay, do you play instruments? Okay, I played
the recording. Love that. I love that because I'm like,
I'm like, i'd love to. In fact, a couple of
off seasons, I've bought a guitar try to learn it. Yeah,
I'm not musically inclined.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Nah, I want to learn to play the piano.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Tried that too, Yeah yeah, in fact, I tried it
and then my brother brother in law picked it up
and now he's amazing. So shout out to see him
at a Bally for you, pushing out the great piano
vibes and like he has an ear for it. He'll
like hear a song and really figure it out. And
I'm like, huh, yeah, you can't get to I got
nothing for you. It's like it's like me when I'm
(19:25):
I'm typing on the computer, everybody's here with it. I'm like, yeah,
I got this.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
No, but you're doing it quick though.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I'm doing the same ways, just like this not looking up.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It's evil work. But shoot, okay, hey bro, like I
want to make this quick. I just appreciate you stopping
on the pod. Bro, appreciate I wish you nothing but
the highest form of success. You deserve everything that's coming
your way, and you clearly have earned the right to
be in this league. So this first year, I'm gonna say,
don't put heavy expectations on you, but have the mindset
that you already have. You got to earn it each
every day. So appreciate you just stopping on the pod,
(20:02):
you know, off the edge with your host. Kim Jordan's
lied to lied too up in this thing. If you
want to say, right, correct me.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You got to lie to lie too.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yes, Okay, I'm sure there's a middle name in there
that I'm not.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Even gonna try.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But appreciate you, my guy.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I appreciate you.
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