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June 4, 2014 116 mins
Chris Law and Jason Wormser  52 weeks a year The Rich Eisen Podcast discusses the ins and outs of the greatest game in the world with some of the biggest names from the gridiron, the silver-screen and beyond. This week the #REP strays a bit from its pigskin coverage to bring a first-hand account of a story that gripped the nation, nay the world last week. Podcast producer Chris Law was aboard US Airways flight 598 last week when man’s (alleged) “best-friend’ caused the aircraft to emergency land mid-flight.  His live-tweeting of the event made international, yes international headlines. So what exactly happened 30,000 feet up? Law recalls the full, unfiltered account of the near thirteen hour flight to both Rich Eisen and Chris Brockman to kick off this week’s show.   Up next, Fox Soccer VP of Programming Jason “The Worm” Wormser returns to the show after a long hiatus. The former NFL Network senior producers discusses with the crew some of the offseason NFL storylines and then previews the upcoming 2014 FIFA World Cup, which begins next week in Brazil.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The quartet from Anchorman to Will Ferrell, Steve Carrell, Dave Kepner,
Paul Rudd, Oilers number one, Rain Wilson Here on the
Rich Eyes and Podcast. Is that is that the twelfth Man?
Have you been in that stadium? Your ears literally bleed?
They should hand out like ear tampons at LT Underscore

(00:22):
two one? Do you follow me on Twitter? I'm not
your known for your lateral movement, but don't you leave
just yet? When you spoke to the commissioner Roger Roger
the goods good. He when he comes down the whole
everyone goes here comes comes a good, comes good, and

(00:44):
he is Vince Vaughn. How are you events? I gotta
tell you I did take David Wilson early in my
fantasy draft. Who else train your fantasy team? We called
a man league? Rich uh NFL completely come to yourself?
Where r Gunn? Jerry Jones did it? Houston Oilers number one?

(01:09):
Hello everyone, and thanks for joining us. I'm Richard Eysen.
I don't download many podcasts, but when I do, I
prefer Rich Eyes and Podcast. Here's your host, rich Hey, everybody,
welcome to the latest edition of the Rich Eyes and Podcast.

(01:30):
Coming to you from the Culver City Studios of NFL
Media the first week of June. I am your humble host,
Rich Eyes, and lots to talk about on this program.
O t A s going in full force. The National
Football League is throwing aside its Roman numerals just for
Super Bowl fifty. They're going to go with the Arabic

(01:51):
five zero for the logos. There's lots to talk about
uh in the NFL world, for sure, But I want
to begin this show with the DISCUSSI on humanity. I
want to begin this show with a discussion of the
course of human events, what our society is like today,

(02:11):
what makes us all tick, what captures our fancy, and
also what makes people famous? And we have found a
new path to a fifteen minutes of fame. Somebody near
and dear to us has shown a new path to
fifteen minutes of fame. And that path hasn't an equation

(02:36):
to it. And basically the equation is this. All you
need for your fifteen minutes of fame is a Twitter account,
a dream, and a dog. Get thirty five feet in
the middle of a US Airways flight and Chris Law.

(02:56):
That's the first of many bleeps on this program. Am,
there's gonna be a few which is all about dogs. Well,
the hashtag that spawned Rich was hashtag dog dog. Yeah,
this is gonna be This is gonna set a record.
I'm letting every money out there know. If you're driving
around with your children in the car, let him know

(03:20):
that the bleep means poop. Right, he called the poop exactly. Now, Law,
this is very important because we're gonna be asking you
to multitask here. Yeah, this is for you to tell
a story that um would have been exclusive if you
didn't tell it to everybody that essentially came your way

(03:41):
in the last five or six days. If you knew
how many I turned down, Well, here's the thing, and
and and um as I basically became your de facto
publicists in the last week. I mean our group a
chain text, our text, and I tweeted out one of
the text we have to get to have to get
to also because there was a text photograph from a

(04:04):
bachelor party of a package of Oscar Meyer Bologney and
Ready Whip, so we get to that later on. We
placed that aside and also let our international followers know
that we're gonna be promoting talking World Cup. Yes, this
show because the the football that the rest of the
world called outside of North America calls football UH is

(04:24):
about to have its major tournament with a special guest
returning the man himself one of our going back to
our roots on this show, predating both of Mike Chris
is essentially. The reason why this man has over a
thousand Twitter followers is based on his appearances on this show.
Jason Worms are former NFL Network producer now Fox Soccer UH.

(04:51):
Is he the executive producer? Ye have, but the worm
is is he technically and it will find out if
we can call more than a coordinating producer, and I'm
sure he'll have. He'll have many takes on on on
all things National Football League, which we'll discuss to. Yes,
but we got to get to this because Chris Law,
you were internationally quoted, internationally, mentioned in blogs, news reports,

(05:18):
video reports, internationally, and they just kept coming in and
in by the minute from all the like a new country.
I mean, it was like going through just taking everything
down with except the Ukraine. Ukraine's a little too busy
to be paying attention to dogs this week. Dog, that's

(05:39):
two focus. You've got to takedown time codes and tell
a story here, Chris. Now, it all started last week.
You were telling us on the previous podcast with Jerry
Ferrar and the Squar Brothers and Teddy Bridgewater, which was
a fun show. Um, you were telling us that you
were heading out on a plane flight yes Wednesday morning,

(06:01):
departing from l A X. It's a it was am flight.
So I get up at all, right, we don't need
to know that. We need to know that in terms
of how long the day was to understand the day
became long when when a dog started defecating and you
had to make an emergency hold on start start with

(06:23):
you you get on the plane. Yeah, well to understand
the dog defecating, you have to understand what the rest
of the flight had already, that's until that point. So
because that does play into a dog needing the poop. Yes,
And before I go all the way into this, there
was some hesitation on my part as how much to
go all in on this because you never know what

(06:44):
a person's has a dog that is a service dog.
Certainly some readers of Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback column
reminded you of that potential news A look and then
I am as you know, a dog rescue. Not Hudson
is a service dog. He is a certified service animal
who has appeared multiple times at the Children's Hospital here

(07:06):
in Los Angeles. So I have my own take on
service dogs and what service dogs mean. And you don't
need to have a physical limp or absolutely not malady
to require a dog. You don't need to be blind.
But the dog be sitting in rowe in the middle
seat next to normal passengers. And there's now there's the difference.

(07:30):
There's a difference. Let's table this. Let's get this chronologically now. Yeah. So, uh,
flights supposed to take off at am in the morning. Yeah, um,
I have really nothing to do on the back end
of the day, which is good. So full flight, full flight. Um, well,
starting out as a full flight about as about as

(07:50):
about about seven am, the captain announces that we have
enough fuel on the on the plane to get to Philadelphia.
But we don't have enough fuel on the plane. If
we have to circle, there's an issue whether diverts us.
So we have to wait. We have to get more
fuel on the plane. Fuel trucks will be here in
about twenty five minutes, should fill us up. Will be
good to go. So I'm thinking we're out at seven
thirty already an hour to land, already delayed because of weather.

(08:14):
You need more gas just in case. Yes, So an
hour goes by. I tweet out an hour on the tarmac,
just an innocent little tweet, just one hour on the
tarmac at L a X already. So that was my
first tweet to start the day. About thirty minutes later,
the captain gets on the on on saying the fuel
guys are having trouble getting fuel onto the plane. It
won't the gate, it won't allow them to put fuel

(08:35):
into the plane. Ten minutes later, announces and I look
out my window and I see on the planet. I'm
on the plane. Yeah, I'm in my seat. I've already
been there for now about an hour and a half,
maybe an hour and ten minutes. At this point, I
see liquid dripping off of the wing of the plane
in like a large quantity in a five gallon bucket underneath,

(08:56):
catching some of it but not all of it, And
I'm like, we're in la it's not the seeing. This
isn't that like, you know, what what is that? Come
to realize they spilled a thousand gallons of fuel all
over the tarmac, the plane and everything. That was the
first tweet of yours that I saw, was you saying
that this is because I saw it on Instagram, because
you put it all sides students that that this is
a picture of a guy he had an American Airline

(09:19):
sort of yellow day glow vest on. Uh is this
is a picture of a guy taking a picture of
the thousand gallons of jet fuel spilled onto the tarmac
here at l A X. Yeah, And he was like,
that's the first one that I saw of you from
you all day. So eventually they have to clean all
that up, and they finally tell us tell us can't

(09:40):
leave until the l A Fire Department comes make sure
it's safe up the engine. So you know, I'm just
thinking of the scene in con Air where you know,
Cyrus the virus Sianar, the whole plane is gonna go
up Jesus. So long story short, this is why the
man also has more Twitter followers than you Brook because
he went conn Air. That's why. Yeah, he's he's a

(10:02):
little lower of a common denominator. Come on, it's a
little lower. I mean I've said that on this show before.
The l c D is lower than your LC. I
mean he's He also has tweeted in the past about
farting on airplanes. Yeah, there have been many people thought
that there uh, there's been some people who think that
this whole episode that you're about to tell because there

(10:25):
there's no question in my mind that air travel is
all about karmic retribution. If you're if you are the
person that doesn't give up the seat to to let
couples or families sit together, because the seat you're getting
is a window as opposed to the aisle that you like.
It's coming back around it is. There's no doubt, no doubt,

(10:47):
go ahead. So so you're finally pushed back. What time
do you push back? So well during this two hour
two and a half hour delay. Um, the lady with
her dog, who at this point I had forgotten. I
first noticed the dog while I was out to board
the flight. She was talking to the people. I thought
it was a little odd to see a full sized
dog something I'd never seen dog. I I have no idea.

(11:08):
I thought it was like a loper doodle. Somebody, uh
a listener of this show, or it might have been
Adam Carolla's show. Who heard me on there week tweeted
me that it's an Italian. It's an Italian truffle dog.
The dog's name was Truffle. It's a four thousand dollar dog. Well,
my mother in law's an Italian truffle dog. But that

(11:29):
that that that's not full sign. This thing that that
thing on your lap. Know, this thing was big, so
that they tweeted me a photo of it, and I
looked at a couple of photos. I forget the name
right now, I'll look it up, but it looked like this.
So during this two and a half hour period, she
starts walking the dog up and down the aisles to
you know, stretch its legs whatever. I don't think much

(11:49):
of it, um, but then she stops right in front
of him in the exit row, so I have a
lot of space. She stopped right in front of us,
and she had a sippy cup with it flip the
cup upside down. This cup had a drip device where
the dog could then drink from it. So she so
I just take out my phone and I snap a
photo and I'm like, this flight has after the total package.
This flights the total package, having no idea what is

(12:11):
about that's the first tweet that I saw of the dog.
So finally the captain announces, Okay, captain announces, were good
to go, We're gonna take off. Um, so this is
about about when you have now been sitting on the
tarmact for at least if you're boarded for and they
boarded you on time. Yeah, I boarded the plane before

(12:34):
six am and we were supposed to take off at
so it's about five. We get up. Umm, I'm pretty
sure I took like a little nap, woke up. We're
about forty five minutes in. Beverage service hasn't started yet,
so I have to get up and go to the bathroom.
And the laboratory right next to right behind my seats

(12:54):
had the you know, the red, the red someone's in there.
The two at the back of the plane, both green.
I'm gonna do it, making the run. Don't like the
awkward standing outside of the laboratory. It's always a weird thing.
I don't like, you know, I don't like standing there
because you're announcing to every the whole plane that you
have to go number one or two? Is it what
you're at? And then if they're in there and they're
doing their business. Then you gotta follow it. If they're

(13:14):
in there for a long time, you know it's dangerous.
I never go to the bathroom on planes. What are
you talking about? I don't go. I go right before
I board, and then I know what happens if you've
got jet fuel situate. I mean, you gotta go. What
do you hold it? Hold it? Listen? I have and
I don't care this this show is off the rails already.
I have issues. I'm one of those guys. I I

(13:39):
gotta go. I gotta go deuce in my own spot. Oh,
you have to play home, your home. You can't play
on the road. I can't really play on the road.
Number two. I'll go anywhere, what except for on a plane.
I'll go anywhere except on a plane. What's your problem
with the plane? If you can, here's the thing. I
like to sit on the went. I always sit on
the window. And so I'm so you don't want to

(14:02):
get People want to get up, but I don't want
to move. And I like to sleep on plane. So
I can't sleep on planes. I go right to sleep
and I wake up and there, listen, I understand that
when you stand outside of a a laboratory, that whatever
is going on behind that door could lead to a
lacious experience if you have to immediately enter the environment

(14:24):
that the person is vacating. Yes, okay, I get that,
But if you have I mean, you know, well, okay,
so you don't like congregating, so you went to the back,
went to the back. Understand if if it's green in
the back, you go to the back. They're in. They're
both green. So I know I'm good. Even if somebody
on my walk back you cut somebody off. Have you
ever done a swim move? I've cut somebody off for

(14:45):
when they try and deboard the plane and jump ahead
of you a long way. I've stood there with both
elbows on both things and been like, where are you going?
You're not getting I can't steer, You're you're barely enough
to to to make this maneuver effective. Yeah, you know,
I didn't say keep it up, you're gonna lose, or
anything like that, but this beats that. This this I

(15:06):
never thought that to keep it up You're gonna lose
story would be topped on this program. Never, well, I lost,
but let's keep let's keep going here And what happened
I noticed the lady with the dog about five five
rows from the back of the plane. And this is
where I first realized that the dog had its own seat,
because the dogs in the middle seat. She's in the
aisle seat. And just in the aisle right there, there's

(15:28):
a white powder everywhere. And then, oh, my god, and
so you know, I don't know that it's from the dog.
I thought somebody just spilled, like maybe a mother who
had powdered milk. I didn't know what was going on.
I stepped over it, and at the back the cart, Uh,
the stewartists or flight attendants with the carts are just
standing there because they can't push down the aisle to

(15:48):
start beverage service because of the obstruction. So I asked
the lady, I go, what happened? What's spelled? She goes,
The dog relieved itself. This is the flight attendant, you're asking, Yes,
this is a flight attendant. I said, what have you said?
Let's put it right out there right for me. They
were stellar. They were the entire Yeah, they were really
good at US Airways flight attendants on on on dogs

(16:11):
flight whatever it was. Yes, okay, um, they were they
were spectacular. They were as a plus rating for for
all of it. Yeah, absolutely, so, I asked, I said,
because I don't believe there's any training for this sort
of situation, and especially after a two case scenario. You
couldn't even conjure up this scenario, right that a dog

(16:35):
on the plane, assuming by how it made international news.
This has never happened before. That's not that's not in
the flight attendant handbook. Okay, so now, so I asked her.
She says, the dog relieved itself in the aisle um.
That's a powder we put down to absorb it and
take away this. At this point, I didn't smell anything,
so I don't know if it was one or two.
I don't know what it was. The first time I

(16:57):
go to the bathroom and I said to the lady,
I'm like, wow, really sorry, you guys have to deal
with this. Uh. You know, I was a bartender for years.
I worked in I know customer service. That's not something
you don't want to be cleaning up anyone else's mess,
that's for sure. I walked back to my seat. Don't
think much of it. So you did you have to
step over? I had to step over both times, both
on the way back and you went number one. I

(17:18):
went number I was in and out? Yeah I was
and um, important details. So we'recovering all bases here on
the Rich Eyes and Podcast. Am I gonna have a job?
On there? You have a job? You're in often blotted
or whatever the hell it's called. That's true. Um, so
I go my hashtag of dog shake. Am I wrong? No?

(17:41):
Because he's gonna have a job. Let me tell you
what you know how things like people are often tweeting
with the hashtag when you go on your Twitter app
and you start to type in the hashtag and it
completes it for you. Dogs completed for me When I
went to make a tweet, people were tweeting about it often.
So I go back to my seat, I sit down. Um,

(18:04):
there's a late a girl. The girl sitting next to me.
We were talking and I'm in the I'm in the window,
but there's again no one in front of me. I
have basically two rows empty. So you know, get in
and out and we're talking. And this this lady was
being honored that night for a charity in Hertford, Connecticut.
She had she had a connection. She knows that thing

(18:26):
that there there's no chance She called her parents while
we were delayed and like, can you please write, uh,
do my speech for me? Send it to you. So
she has to send it all this. So I sit
back down and I you know, I said, I'm like,
you're not gonna believe that big dog that was up
here that we saw her. Lary went to the went
to the bathroom. So we start talking about it. Drink
service comes by. Um, they offer us a free beverage.

(18:48):
So I enjoy a beverage. Nice about hold on it.
You enjoyed a beverage? What beverage? Um? Come on? I went,
I went on the I went on the rock, I went,
I went, I went on the rocks. What did you
have on the rock with a splash of soda? What
do you have bourbon? Oh? No, you had a vodka
on the rocks with a splash of soda. What time
of the morning was this? This is now ten am. Well,

(19:11):
I mean you gotta figure where is that over the
time is different afternoon somewhere somewhere. Look, the four people
in the rows ahead of me had already ordered booze.
I figured it was okay, she has a glass of champagne.
You don't have to explain it that it's okay, airport
time drinking care among families. People know you're a thorough degenerating.

(19:37):
They know your wife knows it's true. People who love
you know this is true. So let's just put it
all out there. Okay, fair enough. So about ninety minutes
passes since since the incident, and uh, and then about
five to eight people don't know the exact number, in
a large number, all start moving forward aggressively and angered,

(20:03):
coming towards the coming towards the front of the people.
Hear them coming down the aisle town from from with
a flight attendant in front of them and a flight
attendant in the back. And we had some empty seats
because some people had to get off the plane covering
the original chow. So she's re seating them. And this
is the same flight attendant. I've been talking to you
the whole time. I kind of asked her, Um, what happened?

(20:24):
You go way back to number We go back to
number one. She goes, the dog is defecating all over
the place back there, and she used the word, uh,
going to the bathroom all over the place, and uh.
And people are getting sick and throwing up from the
smell all over the place though, that's so. I don't
know if it started in the seat and then the
lady got out of the seat and then started going

(20:45):
I'm not I'm not. So a couple of people were
mad at you could tell. A couple other people were
just like in shocked. Imagine the people sitting next to
her immediately or mad. Yeah, the poor sucker on the window.
I can't get away, you can't get out. So then
she's like, we are out of material to clean it up.

(21:05):
We have to emergency land just because it's a bio
hazard can clean it up. Now. There are many times
in the history of this show and the ten eleven
years now that I'm with NFL network. Um coming up,
actually this week is when I first I was my
my eleven year anniversary is coming up. On the honeymoon,

(21:28):
looking at the Grand Canal of Venice is where I
signed my contract and faxed it in to the NFL
network coming up internationally, faxed in from my hotel in
my on my honeymoon from Venice. Signed in fact, the
papers in the Broncos can't do it domestically. Thankfully, there

(21:50):
wasn't some sort of time constraint. There was no Doomerville
time constraint up, so it's coming up on eleven years.
I've always wondered, who's the guy or lady who has
to tell the commissioner, you know, bad news. Who is
the person that has to tell Taglaboo or Roger Goodell? Hey,

(22:11):
you know this story that has to do with pick,
any idiotic story that's happened, anything, anything, you know, you
know it's gonna come on your radar screen. For instance,
des bryant Um got kicked out of a mall commissioner
um because of his pants were falling down, And like,
who's that person who's got to deliver this news that

(22:32):
makes the commissioner go from any range of a head
slap two full on I rate, who's that person? We
we we probably know who that person is. We don't
have to name where that person is, but that there's
that person who was the person who had to tell
the pilot of this flight that there is a dog

(22:53):
in full on shied back in row twenty whatever and
we can't clean it up anymore, and people are dry
heaving and gagging and complaining and upset, and who's that person?
Who's the person the captain. The pilot must have been like,
could you imagine you the look on his face, Like

(23:13):
if there could have been a camera in the cockpit
for the look on his you kidding me? And then
and then and then the person who's just sitting in
Kansas City, Uh, air Traffic Control, H Kanas City. Uh,
this is a dog flight? What is it? And um,
we're coming in hot, We're coming in were very hot.

(23:34):
We're coming in hot and steamy, and we gotta land
and you know we've got a situation here. Yeah, is
there a imagine if you're the poor sucker that's the
has Matt team in Kansas City and you know you're
before we get there, so now you have to emergency
land the cat. The pilot gets on, it kind of
goes whisper down the alley for a little while. Not

(23:58):
there was no major alley whispering. And I asked, I said,
are we going to deboard? You know, if we're gonna
deboard and get off? And she said yes. So then
the captain comes on, and the captain he just said,
there's a situation in the back of the plane, which
would scare the crap out of me. Yeah, I would
start uncontrollably. We have to, uh do the oxygen masks

(24:19):
come down at this point no oxygen yet we have
we have to divert to Kansas City and make an emergency.
He didn't say emergency landing over the loudspeaker. We have
to divert and make a landing in Kansas City. So yeah,
I mean, it's a difference between landing on purpose and
an emergency lab although they had used the term emergency earlier.

(24:40):
So it's that's what you know, our you know kids
call it. I have an emergency. I gotta go to
the bathroom. Let's be honest, this is an emergency. So
we land. People are getting sick and right we land,
and it takes a good twenty five minutes for anyone
to board the plane. We're wondering if we're gonna get
off or whatever. They don't they don't tell us. They

(25:00):
had told us originally we were going to get off,
but we're not getting up to get off. They said
everyone has to wait until has Matt boards the plane.
Has Matt turns out to be I think this is
when I tweeted out the photo of Bill Murray from
Caddy Shack holding up the baby Ruth and the full
on has Matt white gear allowed. I was on fire.
That was at this point we kind of started to
get into the zone with with it. So I'm expecting

(25:22):
that and it's literally five guys in normal just like
mechanic wear with an orange vest on the board the
plane and these poor SAPs. So I snapped a couple
of photos. I saw that you're That was a brilliant
tweet as well. The few of the proud the the
dogs cleaning. Yeah, you were, you were. There's another reason

(25:45):
why this thing went completely viral. Absolutely so uh so
they go it's it's a good thirty minute clean. You're
still on the plane while they're cleaning the plane. I
don't know what the people were gagging and whatever. They
wouldn't let you off or they couldn't. I don't know it.
Um so you're are you up to a gate? You'll

(26:05):
pull into a gate. They didn't. They didn't deboard us.
Um So they're on for thirty minutes cleaning it up.
Where is the dog before has Matt and the owner
of this so before has Matt came on? The lady
is the only person that deboarded the plane. She deboarded
in Kansas City with the dog, no luggage, with her,
no carry on, just walked off the plane, never to

(26:27):
be seen again, never back on the flight, and presumably
went to Philadelphia when she Yeah, most likely I think
they put her on another flight after so some other
flight out of Kansas City got truffles the dog and
this lady on it, or or she took never to
be seen again. That's the last time you saw the
dog and the and the and the owner of the dog. No,
and again. I was in row ten when she got

(26:47):
to about row six. Slow claps, Yeah, clapping, not the
whole plane, I'd say, there's problem. I did not clap
because I was already starting to feel bad enough about tweeting,
and at this point it started to blow up. Let's
let's get in on this right now, because that's when

(27:08):
you here. Here's the thing. You know, Susie and I
are dog rescue nuts, all right. You know that that
Susie and I sometimes hold dogs in higher regard than
some humans. Okay, not like us too, all right. And
and for a dog to be on a plane to
begin with, if the dog's not used to being on

(27:29):
a plane, a dog can get very nervous, And for
dog to be on a plane, you have to figure
for six twenty am flight, that dog had to arrive
at the airport at five, just like everyone else. Meaning
the last time the dog had a chance to go
to the bathroom had to be sometime in the four

(27:51):
am hour. And we assume the owner had the dog
poop before getting on the plane. Now, there are times
where I'm staring at how and I'm I'm like, brother,
you have got to go to the bathroom. I mean,
I've been out here for half an hour. I've been
out here forty five minutes. Dogs are like children, where
there are only three things a dog can control. Can

(28:13):
control same thing with kids. And I'm telling you you
boys this too before you one day have them, if
you are so blessed to have them. There's three things
children can control. Eating, sleeping, go into the bathroom. That's it.
Everything else. We can essentially control what they eat or
what there's in front of what they do when they

(28:36):
go to where everything else is like you know, sorry, Mom, Dad,
you can go f off. I'm not going to sleep.
Sorry Mom and dad, you put that in front of me.
Guess what I'm not eating? Everything else that dogs the
same way. So we're assuming that what if the dog
hadn't gone to the bathroom at all, all right, and

(28:57):
was feeling sick or ate some thing or something. That's
not so I'm not I don't want to blame the dog.
There are no bad dogs in the world. There's just
bad dog owners. Tell me about this woman? Can you
tell me about this woman? I I don't know much.
She was in her mid mid to late forties, probably okay,

(29:18):
And and and did the dog have a vest? Service
The dog had a little collar. It was it was
it looked like a blue a blue thing with a
little triangle. So it was some type of indication that
it was some type of stuff that could also be
like an an um any any tag, that it was
a service dog tag. And I think US Airways issued

(29:39):
a statement saying that it was a service dog also,
which may very well be. They had to and post
and most service dogs do not, just do not. I mean,
I cannot remember the last time Hudson went inside the
house or anywhere inside. I cannot remember. And we thought
him when he was seven months old. So again I
don't want to The ladies been through enough and I

(30:02):
don't want to bag on on her it it's it was.
It was a tough situation, obviously, no doubt. I think
if you don't have a I understand if you you know,
have a deficiency and in seeing or if you can't
you know, you need a seeing eye dog for those
reasons on the plane and stuff like that. If it's
a service dog like Hudson, who does help many young kids,

(30:27):
we don't we Hudson is not a service dog because
we need service from him or our children. Thank god,
he's a service dog because he was soon as he
realized very early on that he was special. And another
friend of ours had a dog who was trained for
Children's hospital and they wanted to go together. So my

(30:49):
opinion that that's the case. If you're flying with Hudson,
Hudson should be under the under the plane in a
large cock. That's my happening. That that's my take. No,
but Hudson hasn't been on a plane. We haven't taken
him on a plane. Well, there you go then, But
he's also just so you know, he's eleven years old
and we're were my wife and I are having discussions

(31:13):
about taking him and um on a cross country flight
and using the fact that he is a service dog,
which he is, to get him on the plane above
the cargo hold. Even after all this, absolutely because he
would not go pooping in a plane, we would make
sure he would not. I see, I disagree. I just
I just think it's I understand that he would not.

(31:36):
And part of just so you understand a dog owners
and I know this is this is and this is
part of the reason why this went viral. Is this
discussion that we're having right now, not not just because
of the humor aspect of it, not just because of
the crazy Can you imagine a plane got diverted because
a dog was pooping on There's a humorous aspect to it.
There's an aspect to it that ties into plane travel

(31:59):
that we all all complain about, and we all go
through all the crap that literally and figuratively that we
thought we've had to deal with. And this is a
whole new ball of wax. That's why Peter King and
his Monday Morning Quarterback column has a travel story of
the week that's popular. That's why when Albert Brier has
his Bett noir with US Airways that people tweet. I

(32:22):
mean we all tweet about it. We all see it
all plays in part of the reason why is is
this discussion that we're having right now, which is a
serious discussion, a serious discussion about a service dog and
what dog owners are putting a dog underneath a plane,
why some people won't do it. Dogs have gotten lost
underneath planes planes that for instance, just think again, a

(32:43):
plane that has to make an emergency water landing, that
plane that US Airways plane that Sully Sullenberger landed in
the Hudson River, if there was a dog underneath that plane,
or count underneath that plane that that animals finished finished,
I think most people are arguing human life at that
point is I'm not saying that well, I'm not saying

(33:04):
it's one or the other, but I'm just saying that
if you put that, there's so many things that can
go wrong when you hand your animal off to somebody
else and they put it under a plane. And that's
probably what this woman, if this service dog wasn't really
a service dog, or she's using what that's the mindset.
And I don't blame dog owners who don't want to
do that. Now, there are a lot of people who
are on a plane who are allergic to dogs and

(33:25):
are like, are you kidding me? Now? Labradoodle is been
created essentially to be hypo allergenic animals. I gotta find
out what the Italian dog this this thing is Italian
truffle dog. Again, my my mother in law's when you
could you could fit you could fit this little dog
on a lap. Long story short, Brockman's checked out of
this conversation. Right now, I'm looking up the dog. But

(33:47):
I mean that that's the that's the mindset. I don't
have a problem when somebody brings a dog in a plane.
But I'm a dog lover, and I understand what service
dogs are and what they are and and if somebody
doesn't need to be walking with a with a with
a crop or or a stick for me to sit
there and go that that's what the dogs there for
do on planes. I don't travel that often, you know,

(34:08):
across country, flight here or there to go home. But
is the barking I want to sleep on the plane
because it's a five six hours but yeah, sure, it's
like it's like baby. I think dogs and babies should
be banned from planes, but that well, I don't have
a dog or a baby. I don't know what true.
So that's true. Hey, I tweeted the other day because

(34:30):
on our flight to Hawaii that I went with the
family on United and I had an infant and two
little boys that were just going to be bouncing off
the walls for six hours, and I had car seats
at everything, and I'm I'm one of those people that
when my when my group is called, I'm on the plane.
I'm not the person that goes, yeah, you know what,

(34:50):
I got twenty more minutes. I'll let everyone board and
then I'll sneak into my No, I gotta get on immediately.
I'm the same, Always been that way. The first minute
I can board on boarding, I'm in because I just
want to get situated. Certainly, when I got all these kids,
United is like that that it's not our policy anymore
to let people with the small children on first. I'm like, really,
I've never heard of that before. They said, yeah, that

(35:13):
we we changed it, and I'm like, but I got
all these kids. So I tweeted out when I went
on adulta flight recently, they announced anyone with small children
or anybody with disabilities or older folks can get on first,
and I tweeted out like, huh, way to go Delta
because United told me that they couldn't. And I got

(35:34):
a torrent of people saying, you think you're so special
number one. You know you think you're so special. You
know you're high falutine, you're an honor your sports guy.
You you know, you're so spatting. I'm like, hey, no,
I've just got kids. And if you've got kids, you
know you want to get on. You want to get on,
get them and get them situated, and just not because
if if I gotta, if I got a kid with

(35:56):
who's with a car seat sitting in the window and
middle seed is where Susie and I are going to sit,
and you're sitting in the aisle, don't you want me
getting on first? Young children traveling? And I just think
what a nightmare that must be for you guys. Well,
I mean it. And that is one of the many

(36:17):
reasons why in my mind, the greatest invention in my
mind has always been air conditioning with pizza. Second air
conditioning pizza. I've always said that, what's the greatest invention
of all time? Air conditioning pizza, And then you go television.
I love their second album, Okay, air conditioning and pizza.
Air conditioning pizza. Okay, air conditioning pizza was great album

(36:39):
back in the seventies. I think it was led Zeppelin.
So um, I love that at one, two three. Now,
the greatest invention of all time is the iPad. Play
something in there here the tablet, Rich the tablet. I'm sorry,
sorry the tablet because because upper management is already so

(36:59):
pleased with this podcast for thirty minutes. Yeah, it's a tablet.
It's a tablet. The greatest thing well, so okay, long
story short is there are mindset and that's why you know,
when when you were talking to Peter King, I guess
and Peter King essentially gave you verb. He didn't even
write a story, he just printed R hold on. So

(37:20):
that that was something of itself. Because I'm in the
deep woods of West of Virginia at this point on
a on a bachelor party, and my service went in
out about six times on my conversation with Peter and
we kind of picked back up. And this is after
I came off the river canoeing for five days or
for five hours, so I enjoyed a few few um
but anyway, we uh we we spoke and then he said,

(37:45):
he said, because nothing is better whitewater river rafting and beverages.
Good job, but no, Peter King's calling you, right, and
everyone's calling you and trying to reach out to you.
But what I'm asking you is when Peter King, when
you spoke with him and you said that this person
didn't have a noticeable limp or anything like that, you
were called into question whether the dog was a service animal.

(38:06):
People started blowing you up, saying that there are reasons
for service animals to exist on airplanes. That isn't just
that you can't see what the naked eyes. Yeah, and
I'm not notive enough to think that disabilities don't exist
that aren't visible. I know all of that and all
those things like oh, I'm I have such bad anxiety,
like I need to have my dog with me, Like
like the wink wink someone gets a weed card in California.

(38:27):
It's kind of more like that. And that's that's where
where if it's that I have a problem with it,
if if she had a legitimate issue, and she may
not have, and I'm telling you the dog maybe a
legitimate service animal, and there's no way she's putting that sweet,
big old dog in a grate underneath the plane, which,

(38:48):
by the way, if she had done that would have
been an extra two and a half three hours of
that dog sitting underneath because I couldn't get the gas
thing right, and they're all those fumes on the tarmac.
Why should why should an animal have to smell that?
I'm telling you, I understand, But you're you're you're a
human being. You can do X, Y and Z with

(39:09):
your time or figure out in your head what's happening.
You know why why you're smelling what you're smelling. A
dog doesn't. That is the mindset. This what That's what
this woman might be. And I don't blame her. I
don't blame her. What she needs to do, though, is
control the dog from defecating by by making sure that
the dog can defecate, or having some form of doggie

(39:33):
diaper or you can. You can definitely do that in
a way, but just some form a bag. You gotta
you gotta plan for the fact that it's certainly if
the dog has never been on an airplane before, which
is entirely possible. I mean, there's a lot of supposition
going on. But I'm just trying to do is draw
you a picture of that the dog being a service

(39:55):
animal on the plane with her probably wasn't because she
had some afflict chin that required the dog to be
in the cabin with her. So that's my point. Here's
where I want to find out where we differ. Because
you made good points about Hudson and why you would
want him stolen on the flight. I tweeted out people
that use their pets under the guys of service dogs,
who aren't maybe the worst people on earth, she poosh,

(40:17):
just in the walk of shame. I understand traveling with
the dog, you don't want it under there, could get lost,
You're worried about that. Would you take Hudson to a
restaurant that doesn't allow dogs and get him in under
the guise of a service dog just because you can?
Because those are also I have a problem with that too,
People that their dogs maybe service dogs, but dogs aren't

(40:39):
allowed in the restaurant, but service dogs are, and they
just do it just because they want their dog there,
and and that kind of stuff. We did that once
in um Um the Monterey Peninsula, which is the most
dog friendly place where they you know, they used to
be smoking and non smoking there's dogs and without dogs

(41:01):
portions of restaurants. And we took him into a place
that didn't have that split, but we had that, we
had the vest on him, and the waiter said, what's
your service? Your dog is service dog for? And he
had just been a children's hospital like the week before, right,

(41:22):
But he's now putting it in our face. And I
told Susie, from now on, if anybody does that to us,
we stare the waiter or waitress or whomever directly in
the face and say he keeps me calm, and then
lock eyes for longer than is comfortable. Now. The reason

(41:46):
now again that whole business is that we know we're
responsible dog owners and if things get out of hand,
will deal with it and we'll we'll be appropriate. But
which is good enough. But I I understand why you
would have a problem when the flight was already beyond

(42:06):
ridiculous with the whole gas situation, and you are now
having to emergency land because of this animals. I had
nowhere to go, so I wasn't. But this poor girl
that missed her was just the cherry on top of her.
Though unfortunately all was it all went down hill with
the gas too. But when did you When did you

(42:26):
start getting hit up with media outlets wanting to talk
to you about this? Well? Yeah, because this thing went viral.
I have one last question. One of your colleagues who
appeared of your your dogs, uh flight what what was it? Okay? Um?
By the way, even though I know it's five ninety eight,
will continually ask with the flight numbers that he said

(42:50):
to Inside Edition, which as your de facto publicist, I
told you to turn down. Yes, well I told you
to turn down Inside a day before you, before I
saw your text about that. I told them no because
I originally told them yeah, they wanted me to skype,
and then I started thinking about I'm like, look, I'm
a producer, I'm behind the scenes. It looks bad for

(43:10):
me going on and getting attention on camera about this.
If I said, if you want to use my tweets
in anyway, and then what I did say though, was
I don't want my tweets misconstrued. If you want me
to talk to a producer on the phone, I can
tell them exactly back, yeah, exactly. I didn't want anything,
and I did want to relay the fact that I
thought us Airways, the onboard crew handled, which we should not.

(43:31):
We cannot stress it great, So I did speak with
them I got off the plane. When I got off
the plane the second time in Philadelphia, I had a
text message and two voicemails from inside Edition producers. No
idea how they got my phone number, not for me, no, yeah,
and obviously, and then tweets just started coming into like
Detroit Radio, Philadelphia Radio, k NBC or NBC tweet to say,

(43:55):
use so many can you use the pictures? Can use
like look, I tweeted it. Just please again. Acknowledge that
US always handled the situation great, But the icing on
the cake of just to do all this has met
d board to the plane we go to We get
ready to take off in Kansas City. We haven't backed
out or anything. Pilot gets back on and goes. Due
to the two and a half hour delay on the

(44:16):
tarmac in in l A and our extended stay here,
our laboratories are now approaching full we can't take off
with them, that fool. We have to now empty the
laboratories on board. So now the problem is human. Yes,
and that was when that was your best tweet, when
you had the cousin Eddie. That was the best Blood

(44:39):
from Christmas. That took the cake for me. I didn't
think you could top the Bill Murray has that with
the baby Ruth. But I was pretty pleased with the
But so we land and then I got hit up
by Inside Edition told him originally I do it, then
told him I wouldn't um a couple other stations and
then our guy, you know, Funnier Die, a couple of

(45:00):
people from Funny Dice at Midnight was interested, Chris Hardwick
was interested, and you weren't back in time to do it. Yeah,
I couldn't get back in. You know, that show is
all about, you know, tweeting lives. It's it's it's about
what's happening at the moment. And so you could have
appeared on Chris Hardwick show, which I told you that
you have to do. You had to camp. I'm like,
but you couldn't because what you had Mets Phillies tickets

(45:22):
and the final score of that game was eleven to two.
You like that text, It was pretty funny. I mean,
but you did. You were on Corolla and that was
because Corolla's got his problems being used by people who
for purposes other than service. I think Corolla and Alison
Rosen his his sidekick. Right. She said something along the

(45:42):
lines of they've never received more tweets about you have
to get somebody on this incident, like people were just
blowing him up because he's gone on rants before about this.
So you tweeted something out yesterday about like way to
LATEXT start. So they were in commercial breaks, and I
thought the way he said hello to me and kind

(46:03):
of introduced me, it wasn't like it didn't see you
guys got me. Well, the first thing he Chris, he
goes Chris, and then I, uh, I said something and
here he was Chris. It's like, hey, you guys got me.
Because I thought he was just saying hello, and he's like,
are you Richizings producer? And so I still thought we
weren't starting in here. I'm like, yeah, I met, we've met.

(46:25):
It goes back law retells the story of how the
security here botch Corolla coming in last time. We had
a good time with that, and and then we talked
for for tenor or some minutes, and it was fun.
They had a good time with it. And I mean,
you know, I'm the greatest podcast out there. Yeah, it
was really funny. Number one, good number one, Good job
Buddy law gets on Corolla's podcast, Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback.

(46:49):
Countless countless blogs and newspapers around the globe. My favorite
one was the I tweeted out the link to the
video report from Italy, the video report that used the
stock footage b roll from airplay where this woman got
sick and they were lining up to Smacker around and well,
the German station put the hashtag dog Yes, yes, I'd see.

(47:14):
I didn't I was in the woods. I didn't see
all this? What was going on? This completely full circle here,
let's bring this completely ended because we've had have we
had an hour long minutes right um, the bachelor party
that you were going out there for. Yeah, okay, what
in Heaven's name could be the possible use of Oscar Mayer,

(47:39):
Bologney and ready whip. What's that about? Rich? I like
my job. I like it a lot. I'm going to
play the fifth on this one again. I'll let people
just go back to the to the tape, to your
Twitter timeline feed, use their imaginations. Wow, not to mention
you plead the fifth you like your job or your marriage? No,

(48:00):
we didn't see we didn't have proper cooling out there,
so bologna does not go bad. Stand any elements and
your whip cream, you know, dairy and vitamin something for
something Jesus and something alright. You also tweeted as a
picture of moonshine that was pretty good. Yeah. Well, like
I said, this was good for you. This is an

(48:22):
interesting How many more followers do you have now before
you bought you boarded flight? Um, I think I think
about eight seven eight hundred maybe up there? No, no, no, no,
sir dude. Something you can you can track out over thousand.
You's got over seven thousand now yeah, yeah I had.

(48:43):
I had about sixty five hundred before it and uh
and then it. No, no, you can track these things.
You can go to like you. You're at seventy three
fifty eight now yeah, thank you. We're at like sixty
two before I thought, yeah, you've gotten over thousand followers.
It's it's gone up. They'll all defollow once they see
what She could not believe it, and we were just
one link after another after another after they just kept

(49:03):
coming in. They just kept coming in, I believe in
each one of them using Chris Laws. Uh Twitter and
there you are with your schrecky little avatar, with your
with your reflection sunglasses or whatever the hell you're wearing
in your avatar, which you haven't changed since I've known you.
Gotta keep it strong. What is strong about that? I

(49:23):
could change it if if I wanted a full size
photo of me? That was a little Somebody did tweet
me yesterday that there was an article. Where was it? Anyway?
They said I got a dull designed in the article.
They called me, Chris McCall the two names. What is

(49:46):
your Travolta name? Though I forgot what it was. Mom
Ree's edges that I know something long. I think, like
Charles Law, it could have been in our open if
you use the right one. Wow. Okay, very good story,
Chris Law. Very story. Is there any football that we
should discuss? I know Super Bowl fifty is going to
be Super Bowl five, Oh, because the people of San Francisco,

(50:08):
of the host committee in in Northern California essentially said,
asked for it, because if it's about branding, it should
be Super Bowl five. Oh. But the NFL well had it,
had it before him, and and they've they dealt with
other Roman numeral issues in the past. I remember our

(50:31):
first Super Bowl that we did. I remember our first
super Bowl that we did was uh Super Bowl, I
think it was thirty seven or thirty eight, which one
was the Patriots and in Houston. Yeah, right, so I
do remember that and Panthers. Yeah. Actually, the Worm is

(50:52):
arriving right now. Jason Williams was coming in and he
was here, so we should put him on the headsets,
uh in real lifetime to see it right here. Yeah.
Guest one, Chris Law, guest one for for Jason Worms
or a Fox Soccer fame. What is your official title
a Fox Soccer? Well, first of all, this isn't more
Fox Soccer. What do you mean because it's now f

(51:15):
x x x x x X. Well this this, this
is interesting that this is now uh mentioned, what does
it actually? No, it's f whatx f x X. So
you're part of f x X. They've taken all of
our stuff and moved at the Fox Sports one, Fox
Sports two, the Channel Media channel itself. So what is

(51:38):
your official what is your official title? Vice president production
of something formerly of NFL Network, where you were a
senior cord producer, senior producer, seniorcer and and so if
you remember when we first started in this Michigan, it
was okay. And our first super Bowl was super Bowl
thirty eight Panthers page in Houston, right, And the issue

(52:01):
was the firewall, uh was so strong here as it
always has been at an NFL network that when there
were subject headings of of the Super Bowl that were
being sent around and it was super Bowl thirty eight
x X X V I I I, it would go

(52:24):
to spam folders or being blocked because triple X you
got the referee floor was was in was in as
a subject heading and they had to do some sort
of tweaks with the firewall or do you remember that.
I don't remember that. There was only there was a
problem with with that as well as super Bowl thirty
nine the following year, and you know, and that was

(52:47):
x X X I X. Super Bowl thirty was triple X.
So people were wondering, hey, if the if the NFL
had to deal with super Bowl triplex. It was definitely
for Neil Donny, Neil o' donald. It was definitely certainly
questions of the some of the some of the Pittsburgh
Steeler language, all right, but so super Bowl l super

(53:07):
Bowl loser, right, that was the problem that we're having
Super Bowl l super Bowl large. That's a problem. I
don't know. I would have liked to have seen a captain.
You see the logo at to NFL dot com. See
the logo. It's it's great. There's it's perfect, it's absolutely perfect.
Super Bowl fifty there's a five and a zero flanking

(53:29):
the Lombardi Trophy. Great idea. We've talked about the you know,
branding and optics on the last podcast. What are you
think about the whole that Minnesota got in seven New Orleans? Well,
what's the big deal? I don't know. I think let's see,
let's see people in general orree attemper If you build it,

(53:50):
they will come, Oh, no doubt, I'm not. Look, the
same thing is happening in Miami. If Ross gets gets
the thing finally fixed, you know, retrofitted, will call it
the Dolphins. He's getting the Super Bowl because they want
to they want to be in Miami. But with the
if they're going to spend if communities are gonna spend
hundreds of millions of dollars to help franchises have stadiums,

(54:11):
they're going there. There's just no there's yes or no
they're going. I think it's as simple as that they
built it and that's it. So what's what it was?
What do you think about Ross coming out and saying
that Eli is gonna have a team within by nineteen.
I mean we've heard this forever. I've lived in Los
Angeles for eighteen years. It's been going on forever. It's like,
and then who's gonna buy the team? I mean, now,

(54:34):
could you imagine with with Stephen Bomber, Steve Bomber two
billion dollars for the Clippers for a team that was
worth valued Forbes said seven hundred and twenty million, it's
actual worth two billion dollars. That's why there's so many
there's so many Clipper fans in this time that are nervous.
He's gonna take it to Seattle. I'm like, two billion dollars,
you don't take it to Seattle. And plus the the

(54:56):
the the NBA is not gonna sell it to some
guy to watch him. The local TV, the local TV
rights are up as well, So I mean he has
to figure I mean, he has to figure it out.
But if if the Clippers are worth two billion, what
is an NFL team in this tea? I mean, it's
it's gotta be a Dodgers are two point one, Clippers
are too flat? What are the Lakers worth? I mean?

(55:18):
And and all of that. What is a future NFL
team going to be worth? That's the issue that I
think that the It's not a facilities issue, even though
that that that is obviously an issue here in this town.
It's how much of a relocation fee is going to
be extracted from the owner that moves his team here,

(55:39):
Because it's not going to be somebody who buys the
team and moves it. I think it's going to be
an owner that currently owns a team in the National
Football League and moves it everybody everybody. He owns the
land in between the racetrack and the now refurbished fabulous
forces fabulous by the way, And that's why everybody thinks

(56:01):
that he's bought that land, because in order to build
that land is going to be required to build a stadium.
The track could be the track can be knocked down,
it's not it's not being used. All their dabs are
supposed to be for affordable housing. Is that what it's
supposed to be. Well, that's fine, I mean, that's a
part of his part of his plan. Sure, you know

(56:23):
he'll figure it out. I mean, there's no doubt a town,
this town is ready for an NFL, there's no question
to I mean, you have that much money, he knows
you overpaid. But there's so many guys who are billionaires
now that are are have just are flushing cash because
everyone's putting their money on the side and they've got cash,
and they're like, well, what do I want to I
want to got Do I want to own like a

(56:44):
small like Banana Republic, or do I want on the clippers?
You know, it's it's it's basically what it is. Yeah,
you don't get any fame on a yacht. These guys
kind of want that exactly. Why do you think all
these people, all these oligarchs Andrussia, all these oil barons
in the Middle East, own soccer teams and spend hundreds

(57:05):
of millions of dollars. I mean the guys, well, real
Madrid's a different story because they're they're actually owned by
the fans. They spent almost two billion dollars to get
that tenth European Championship, two billion dollars just to get
the guys to come to their team for over ten years.
That doesn't include paying the guys for ten years. It's incredible.

(57:26):
It's incredible and absolutely probible guests who pays four l
Ladies and gentlemen, you and me, you and me with
these outrage with with high ticket prices and you know
games that have Dodger games aren't on television because of
you know, because of that. I can't believe it's it's
been such a shame. I would love to show because
and my oldest is just beginning to get into this stuff.
I'd love he would fall in love with the Osso

(57:47):
Puig in two seconds flout if you could see him
every day in that regard. But um, so, before we
do turn to the World Cup, Um, the National Football
League intrigued? What what do you intrigued with? Right now?
With the National Football League? Worm? Your New York Giants?
Do you like their draft? Do you think I supposed

(58:07):
to that Eli is in such good shape they told
Freeman to hit the road. I think they're concerned. I
was going through the roster last night again, um, just
freshening up, and I'm like for this podcast, yeah, And
I'm like, wow, there's a reason why they were awful
last year because the roster isn't any good and they've
improved it well. They couldn't have anybody run the ball

(58:29):
and they couldn't have anybody blocked. They couldn't run the
uldn't catch it when was thrown it up. If you
look at the defensive line, it's like, Wow, does anybody
scared on the defensive line to get to the quarterback
besides JPP. That's so that's that's a big concern. I mean,
they're starting linebackers right now for a string or McClain
from Baltimore who was a cap casualty beason and Paysinger,

(58:52):
and I'm like, yikes, you know, we can't stop the run.
He can't stop the path past the fensive backfield. The
world don't think hurts because it was a football Who's
the guy that's football. The guys who do the technical
analysis of football is um observers football outliers from out

(59:14):
they made They said that Will They rated Will Hill
as the number to safety in the NFL. Yeah, I
mean that's a big that's a big. But the kid
likes pot. The kid likes pot more than and this
goes back to the University of Florida it seems like
seems like Josh Gordon has that issue too, Daryl Washington.
But there's six and a half million dollars of salary. God,

(59:38):
think about think about like what they were a big stories.
By the way, that happened in late May, early June.
That's gonna come home to roost when training camp begins
and and weeks eight, nine, ten creep in and suddenly
you've got the next man up, makes the makes the
roster a little weaker. It's always, you know, and it's

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depth two ways. It's why this is a year round
situation in this league. Now man year round situation. I
think our our friend of a T. L. Hand Zeus
Law's buddy Dan Handzus tweeted out, it's June four, and
every player in the National Football League looks great. That's
the way you know here, everybody looks great right now.

(01:00:25):
Remember here's the thing. You know, It's funny you have
I have a lot of work with a lot of
international guys, and they're like, they're like flabbergasted. Like soccer
goes almost year round because like the World Cup, literally
guys will have thirty days off that's it. And that's
because there's a rule from FIFA telling you that you
have to have thirty days off after an international competition

(01:00:45):
before you start your your club season. Football guys played
for five months, four four and a half. If you're
a bad team like the Giants, you have four and
a half months and that's it. And people like sitting
back like you have all this time to to rehabilitate,
to have surgery. Even more now you can't. You can't
get these guys in until mid mid April. Now, I
don't understand. I don't understand why they don't let the

(01:01:08):
rookies come in and get drafted, or if they're picked
up a street free agents, come on in, learn the system,
learn the book. The rookies aren't drafted now until May,
I know, But why should have to wait even longer?
They should like get in there that first weekend and
go Here's the thing is what's happening right now is

(01:01:29):
as you know, as you recall from your time here
at this network, when we first started this thing, the
O t A s and all the voluntary team activities,
all of those things always had the underpinnings of mandatory.
The coaches would always be piste off standing at the podium.

(01:01:49):
I'm only talking about the guys were here. That was
and that that was all that that started at a
training camp. But suddenly you heard that sort of conversation
happen in these on these voluntary team activities that we started.
We were the first to cover these things o TS
at this network. Now everybody does, but we were. We
would always hear this guy's not here? Why is not

(01:02:10):
not guy not there? And and it it became ridiculous.
It became ridiculous that the players would be done at
the super Bowl in February and suddenly they're expected to
be at the facility in mid March, and because that's
when the offseason workout programs would begin. And if you're
if you're not there working out with your teammates, then

(01:02:31):
you're not all about winning. And this was the way
it would be in in March. We would hear that.
So the pendulum had had to swing somehow, and in
the collective bargaining that took place in that dreadful off
season of two thousand eleven, for which I still wear
the emotional scars that that the Players Association said, well,

(01:02:53):
if this needs to be policed, we're gonna go the
other way, and we're gonna come hard and fast dates
and these and and not only hard and fat states.
But you can't you can't approach somebody. And it would
be like n C double A rules. You can't approach
somebody in certain facilities. You can only approach them, you know,
not on the field, but in and you can say
hello to them in the in in the inside the building.

(01:03:14):
But when they hit the grass, certain coaches can't say
hello to them. I can't even say any So it's
now gone on the other absurd way. There's got to
be a gray area for that to happen. I think
we have a new administration and we're gonna find out.
We're gonna have this discussion in the playing season this
year if certain rookies aren't up to speed, or some
guys don't look like they're on the same page. We

(01:03:36):
constantly talk about quality of play all the time. We've
been talking about this forever. And to me, look at them,
Look at like Houston, Cleveland, any of these, any of
these teams have new coaching staffs. They can't get their players,
they can't talk to them, they can't give a playbook.
What do you expect? How how is it. How are

(01:03:56):
they supposed to get their system? How are you supposed
to get anything go? But these guys have to have
some downtime where they're not but where they're not put
in a position of being made to feel like they're
not about winning because they're not there. I totally agree
it got ridiculous. I'm with you. The culture got ridiculous
in the league and you're still hearing about it too,

(01:04:18):
where some guys aren't at these uh voluntary but I mean,
if you team activities, players are putting the time, the
coaches are putting in three much for them too. You
know there there the draft with the draft being excited
by two weeks that I mean, they're and they're not
gonna I think. I think, I think what they're gonna

(01:04:39):
end up doing when it all comes down to it
is first week of May. Look at the thing I think,
I think, Well, the ratings for Johnny Football. Everyone's talking
about that, it's all it was all john Football because
the other ratings over the weekend. The rest of the weekend,
I want, the draft is about the same draft last year.
In my mind, the draft is the only NFL event

(01:05:03):
I'm including the combine in this too, that's affected by
who's in it. Other sports and have their finals, World
Series or finals, the rating and interest goes up and
down with who's in it. In the NFL, I'm knocking
on wood doesn't matter, right. The one of the greatest
Super Bowls ever, most watched Super Bowls ever, had the

(01:05:25):
Arizona Cardinals against the Pittsburgh Steelers. We had no natural rivalry,
no nothing, and it was off the charts, and I
remember some NBC people were like, I can't believe we
got this matchup. The draft, however, is not immune. It
does matter who's in it and who's not. With those
guys last year, with four of the first five picks
were offensive lineman, the people had never heard of. I

(01:05:47):
gotta be honest, you take a lot and that of
course that that if that's the floor Johnny football is
gonna have. But that's where the star power of college
football trump's notar power of college basketball now with the
one and Dunes. Oh, it's also too. It's like, if
you're an NBA fan, their draft is coming up in
three weeks, right week next week, and it's usually after
my birthday. So I mean, if you're let's say you're

(01:06:10):
you're a fan of the Bucks, right, You're all pumped up,
you're excited. You see all these kids that they played
in the n C Double A Tournament or or or
if you're fortunate enough to have somebody that you like
that's played to three years to have some name recognition
on the collegiate level, and your pick comes up, the
Milwaukee Bucks have selected some poly syllabic Slovakian you've never
heard of before, you've never seen play, you've never heard of,

(01:06:33):
and you're gonna be like, um, we're very big in Slovakia,
pen Sylvania offense to the Slovakians and certainly the poly
Slavic ones. You go, you know, but in the college
football booms, you seen him on Saturdays? Can they play
on Thursdays, Mondays or or or Sundays? There's no doubt

(01:06:57):
about that. One more story I want to hit. Also,
I have been told I haven't told either of you
two guys this I'm breaking. I'm breaking the news here.
I've been told by uh, somebody from the entertainment world
in this town who knows everybody, knows everybody. It seems
like to me this person shall remain nameless in the

(01:07:19):
entertainment history. Who tells me make book on Tim Tebow
getting a job in the NFL as a quarterback and
it's going to happen this summer. And I'm like, no chance.
And this person says, you watch where is he gonna go?
Great question, really great question, this person said. And this

(01:07:43):
person knows everybody. And I wouldn't be surprised if this
person has heard it from Tebow because he knows that
this person knows everybody has ab he does, but his
he does at the SEC network. I believe that doyesn't
have it out and I read that. I read that
they all have outs. He will, he will tell the
Four Letter Network, He'll tell the Worldwide Leader. I'll see you.

(01:08:06):
I've been told this And and that's the beauty of
this podcast. Okay, because this is but this is like
this is sort of like a blog report where rumor
has it and I have no sourcing, and there no
chance I'm gonna say sourcing. It's just that this person
knows virtually everybody can he can he go to either
the Rams and the Browns. So when they play the

(01:08:28):
internet just breaks with Michael Salmon, Manzel and then Tebow
involved in the mix and we make book. That's what
we three that game. He said that this is gonna happen.
I'm just thinking about where he would go, what, what
what fits? And who who's tennis starving? The media? Is
that Tennessee? Is it? Um? Is it someone with an

(01:08:50):
established QB. So Tebow comes into be the I don't
know where it's going to happen. I don't know if
it's gonna happen. Somebody who knows everybody he's gonna be
on a roster says that Tebow is going to get
a call. He'll get a call to come to camp.
You're saying, yes, and national quarterback to play quarterback, National

(01:09:13):
Football League. It's gonna happen. Just you watch and wait
now and and and and well, there's always attrition. And uh,
if you remember recently there was a fake internet report
that the Raiders took him. Remember that happened like three
weeks ago, and and and that one. I will confirm

(01:09:35):
and deny. That's it. Other than that, I am my
sources inviolent. Other than that, I you know that the
person is locked in on many circles. Wow, what do
you think? I just think it's I just think It's
absolutely off the charts ridiculous. It's ridiculous because he had

(01:10:00):
hasn't played. Now he spent that time with Dilfer, but
he has already said he said this past week, you know,
I'm I'm I'm staying in shape. Everybody thinks Tebow's being
completely delusion. I'm just thinking, like, where does it fit
saying in shape? We just saw that last year, that
story to its psychle do you see the bread fire
of the picture during the arms were gigantic? Kurt Warner,

(01:10:24):
there was the Kurt Warner stuff, right what when Warner? Hey, Dilford,
Dilford d eat out of the blue ESPN And I
think it was just because they signed Tebow for the
SEC network put him through workout. That was the last fall.
I remember it was going up against game day morning
and I'm like, great, we'll talk about what's happening on

(01:10:46):
the field right now. You guys want to do use
some of your pre game time to talk about a
guy's not in the league. That's fine, Like where does
he fit? He doesn't I mean Tennessee, Kansas City as
a backup. Minnesota's a mess. Maybe just then, but what

(01:11:06):
do you rush your starting quarterback. If you bring that
road show in, it's just right. It's just it's just
a crazy road show. It's just what can he do?
If you said as a tight end, I'd have been like,
this is quarterback. No throwing it out there, you know,
if it happens. If it happens, you'll say, son of whatever. Yeah,

(01:11:28):
well you didn't want to go for one more. We're
gonna ask who your sources. We can get tips on
other things. No, it's gonna stay put. I'm just throwing
it out there. The ultimate I'm not saying. I'm just
so there's so many more interesting things than him. Yeah,
there's so many things to talk about. Its fascinating things
going on. Obviously in New England with the Jets, with

(01:11:49):
Philadelphia Washington. They've got some guys from Philadelphia into Washington now.
And Dallas is always kind of nuts, kind of crazy.
Sean Lee going down to Sean Lee going down. I mean,
you've got the NFC West is interesting. Everyone's good in
that division, right, I used to be the I mean
that was bottom feed or central at that division for
so many years. There's so many great things. Denver, they

(01:12:14):
kind of like one more run. I can't believe. I
think I saw again also on a pole somewhere that
more fans think that Denver's got a chance to go
back to the super Bowl. In Seattle, I don't understand that,
you know what, you know what, because the a f
C isn't that good. Take New England out of it,
take I mean beyond Neuler, who's really Seattle is absolutely poised,

(01:12:37):
oh no doubt, no doubt, as good as as as
well as much as any team that we've seen the quarterback.
They don't make the playoffs. I think there is that schedule,
with the schedule, that schedule with their division they play
in and I'm telling you, at seven and one at
home at the worst, they go five hundred on the road,

(01:12:59):
they're a double did you win? Team? And people, we're
gonna be sitting here weeks six going scratcher in head
like how did they lose a home game? How did you?
Because you know what, three number three is going to
have to play his game. I'm telling you he is
going to have three his game. I think San Francisco
in that division is more prime to fall off in Seattle.

(01:13:21):
There's no question in my mind about that because of
what's going on there, what's going on? I said, I said,
there's weird stuff going on, stuff going on with that coach,
crazy khaki pants. And then Balki had like the best draft,
maybe evolved them too, but but Kaepernick is still still
it's bulky. I'm telling you, I think Balki was in
was was was in this sitcom perfect Well I know

(01:13:44):
is that teams going up and down. TAM's going up
and down, Teams go up and down. In the NFL,
it's all about your quarterback. If your quarterback is protected
and healthy and it is functional and good, you're going
to be consistent. But Flacca was garbage last year, Ben
was bad last year. Eli was garbage. That was hot,

(01:14:05):
red hot and last last four weeks. But that's great
that London maybe up to London horrible hard. So it's
it's right. And look at the Rams. They're a team
kind of on the but that they have the quarterback
question marks, that that defense that they got, they got

(01:14:25):
the big nose tackle in there or the defensive tackle.
What do you think about Fisher saying, again, pressed with
what Kenny britt looks like, I'm like Kenny britts with
the Rams, they didn't even know that we got we
got we have fells, Jim, I got fells from from
from the Rams. Every time I looked up, Hey falls
just scored a touchdown. The Rams have been completely remade

(01:14:47):
except for their quarterback, and that has been the Uh,
that's the big conundrum about the St. Louis France. Very exciting.
You're absolutely right. There's so many different storylines from from
from from sump nuts, Gronk on whose line is anyway?
I mean, you got all that stuff that's going on
in the National Football League right now? Can I miss something? Is?
Is that? Is that? For real? Yes? What week? What

(01:15:07):
week is Johnny Football starting one? You think he's gonna
start one? Dude? I mean, you don't draft the guy
to sit the bench, don't don't. Don't tell it to
Jeff Fisher. He drafted two quarterbacks. They both sat a
different world, right, different world, not Cleveland. Different world. By
the way, start away week. I like Johnny Football Week one,

(01:15:31):
JF at hans Field. That's the first week on Johnny
Football at fines Field. How about that. He's gonna win.
It's gonna be He's gonna win. Browns are gonna win
Week one. Browns are Musty television, Bad helmet iss television?
How is bad helmet Musty? Tell him to think about that,
put that in your skull and spin it around. Star

(01:15:54):
power one guy, damn straight, damn straight. And I just
I just hope that he's gifted. He throws a great ball.
I hope great. He's a great leader. I watched every
one of his games A and M, and he does
stuff that's special. But he's just got to stay up right.
I don't know how he's gonna stay up right. Is

(01:16:14):
he throwing too? He has one by the way his feet,
he has like size twenty feet. He's like Bob Laniers. Yeah,
he's a freak huge presence on TMZ. You know. Okay, uh,
let's get to this uh World cupness June the twelve

(01:16:41):
starts a week from Thursday. What uh? So? I am
Brazil vie Croatia also known as tablecloth because their their uniform,
their home uniform. He's the red and white check. Is
the red and white check and it looks like like
you're a table cloth at a tiny restaurant. Okay, so
I'm completely blanks late, Okay, okay, blanks late. Um? What

(01:17:06):
am I looking for? Is this is this a Spanish inquisition.
When it comes down to it's gonna come down. There's
there's a couple of elements that make this tournament different
than say South Africa. The biggest one is the weather.
Not the kazoos. Not the kazoos. No kazoos. There's gonna
be samba drums and all that, but it won't be that.
It'll be nice to be a nice rhythm. It's gonna

(01:17:27):
be hot in the south. It's gonna be temperate. It's
gonna be all right in the northern cities. And there's
fourth there's six northern cities, of which the US plays
all three of their matches in. By the way it
is going, they're playing the jungle. They're literally playing in
the Amazon. They built a stadium, forty seed stadium with

(01:17:47):
a town in a town has no team, no soccer team,
no professional organization at all, and now and now no
indigenous creatures that they are could have extracted a cure
for cancer facing they took out the rainforest. They basically
got the rainforest. They had to build, the state had
to I'm just, I'm just that was the most liberal
thing I could have said. Here's the thing they could

(01:18:08):
have did they could have done this. They actually had
to go up the Amazon and bring the materials to
build the stadium via boat up the Amazon to the house.
That's how ridiculous it is. For four matches. Four matches,
that's it. This is just gonna stay vacant. When it's done,
it's gonna be liked. There was there was about hopefully

(01:18:29):
South Africa half of the stadiums or white elephants. That's awful.
So um, it's wait until you see what they're gonna
do and cutter, it's I'm sorry. Let's focus on the
soccer here. Okay, so so um off the football. So
that's the weather is a big factor for the new
European size. Okay, okay. No European team has ever gone

(01:18:51):
to South played in the World Cup in South America
and one was the last time in South Americaina played
in the final, which was a fantastic game. That doesn't
mean anything to me that that that but the heat
and humidity. Last year they played the stink called the
Confederations Cup. It's a warm up tournament. So Spain played Italy.

(01:19:13):
Uh of all teams uh uh, they the guys from
they had they had one other crazy Japan in there
as well, and Uruguay and Brazil and Tahiti played. And
what happened was towards the end of the tournament Spain
played Brazil in the final and Brazil whacked them. I

(01:19:35):
mean they just it was no game because they were
worn out. They were completely worn out. I think those
two teams have an opportunity because they've been through it.
Now can say all right, now, I know how to
prepare our team physically mentally for three weeks or four
weeks in very difficult conditions. Um, but this is a
star driven tournament. Ronaldo plays for Portugal. His foot's a

(01:19:57):
little banged up. He's a banged up for the last
two months. You're talking about one of the great players
in the world. One will be one of the all
time greats. Messy for for Argentina. Fantastic diminuative guy five
ft six, jav is kind of the is the master.

(01:20:18):
He he is my favorite. They are so loaded, Spain
is so loaded their team. They're they're guys who got cut.
If they've got six field players, got cut their thirty
for their final roster. Those six guys played for the US.
The first of all, they could play for most any team.
But if those six guys came over played to the

(01:20:39):
for the US, we would be second favorites to him
out of the group. Does anything like that? That's how
good they in soccer, Like in the Olympics where people
defect him another country to make the Olympic team. Does
that happen? You sort of made like sort of like uh,
using a service dog when they're not really a service dog.
Similar similar is that an apple apple there aren't there

(01:21:01):
are dual you're there's a lot of dual citizens ship
stuff that goes on the US is obviously a big
one because they've got a lot of the German guys.
Javi has a grandmother from Brooklyn like me, right, probably
suddenly probably can we you get like one you get
one chance to to you claim you're like the kid

(01:21:23):
from from Germany, the eighteen year old one chance to
claim on You can't you can't just have an epiphany
years later and say, wait a minute, if you've not
played for that country, you can switch. So because Diego
Coasta is this great player striker play for So you're saying,
if the six players that Spain cut played for the USA,

(01:21:45):
we're still not better than Germany probably probably Man from Man. No,
in a one off match, we'd have a hell of
a game against them. We have a great chance against them.
So we're in Group G. That's the group of group
of one of the groups of death. Yes, boy, that
there's these these uh, these international football people are very dramatic.

(01:22:08):
Let's just get down to the group of death. What
multiple groups? Because England in a group of death as well,
in Group Dan England, England, England, Italy and uh, what
is the us chances I've been before we get that.
I've I've been in in Uh, I've been in London
for a couple of World Cups. It's pretty good. Oh
it's great, it's great. But watching and and just the people,

(01:22:31):
the people England. Fans of England are similar to jet fans.
They're just waiting. They're waiting for the trap door to open.
They're just waiting. They know it's coming. This may be
the greatest, this could they could have the greatest memories
of the time. This could be their year. It could
be their year. But the minute they think it's their year,

(01:22:53):
something's gonna happen. Trap door is gonna open, and it's
all ruined. I'm like, I'm watching a couple of matches
with with with with Brits, sitting there in London watching England,
and I'm like, this reminds me something. The way they're acting,
the way they're talking, the way they're they're expecting the worst.
What is this moment? I'm like, oh, yes, my childhood,

(01:23:15):
I've seen this before. There was a guy in the
radio today because they're there playing right now, as must
be the playing right now in Miami. It's a warm
of came they got a guy in because I listened
to the sports talk show over there that's very popular.
Every every morning, guy calls up. He goes, what's the
trapdoor this year for us? Last time? Last time? Literally
a goal was stolen from them against Germany. The ball

(01:23:38):
was three ft over the line and he missed it.
What is it now? And I you know, they think
remember that, they think it's gonna be a players who
are gonna get red cards and all that. I mean,
they're they're all the all the punnets, all the people
over there. It's it's quarterfinals, see quarterfinals, thanks very much
for playing goodbye. That's that's what their hope is. Get
to the quarterfinals, play Spain goodbye, because they would end

(01:24:02):
up playing Spain in the couarterfinals. Okay, appointing to my
So now let's get to Brockman's question. Yes, the United States,
which raised some eyebrows. UM coach Klinsman, with no Landon
Donovan said to Landon Donovan, that's it, you're out, which
created a big hullabaloo between that it was beyond disrespectful

(01:24:24):
or or um was the wrong call or trust and
Klinsman he knows his squad and and and it's you
can It's sort of like Belichick. It was rough for
Bill to get rid of Kazar. Here here, here's here's
the analogy. Well here's not. Let's let's take a step

(01:24:44):
back current NFL, and we won't do it. We want
I want to a football analogy, but we'll do this.
Landon Donovan has more goals in the World Cup than Ronaldo,
Wayne Rooney and NeSSI put together. That's all you need
to know. That's why the rob Stones the world me
other American weirdos who like soccer and who follow it closer,

(01:25:06):
saying that's what can this guy help you? For? Twenty
minutes worth zero zero one, nothing down to one down
to Ghana. We have got to win or draw that game.
Who is coming off the bench in the last twenty
minutes when it's when everyone is dead tired, to give
him pace, punch, Who can make the one play a
smooth the goal. Who's the guy is it? We're like, literally,

(01:25:28):
we're trusting to get to a guy named mix Mix Discarud.
Lovely guy, talented player. But you're talking about eighteen you know,
we're talking about fourteen years of service from a guy
who knows how to get it done in those crucial
moments to get the one place. Completely disagree, he is
not he There are not twenty three players better than

(01:25:50):
Land of Donovan and there's no one who it's personal.
It's clearly personal. There's no doubt. This goes back. He
brought him in when he was coached by arn Munich
back in two thousand nine, and it didn't work out.
It just did not work out. He couldn't make the
team and they were a little trust me. We didn't
work out for yorkt either. He got he got quickly

(01:26:12):
there and that was his club, one of his clubs
um when he played in Germany, and it just didn't
work out. I think that that in his head, plus
Landing when he had a chance to go back over
to Everton, where he's played a couple of times with
Tim Howard and huge fan favorite, people love him, was
really good for him. We'd go over there and loans

(01:26:34):
for like six eight games. Lighted up score, goals, set
up goals, defend, just just controls the game, just a
great player. He didn't take the opportunity to go back
over And I think it's in the back of his mind,
like why would he not go for the best competition,
most popular league in the world for one or two years.
He's comfortable here in l A. He's making a lot

(01:26:55):
of money because there's three guys in every team. They
get to make a lot of money beyond the cap.
And it's like, you know he's so you don't agree
with it. I don't agree. Do we get I? I texted,
I texted you and give your answer. Does the United
States get out of Group g um? I for the Germany, Portugal,
Ghana and the United States? They I will do it

(01:27:17):
very simply. It's all on the Ghana game. If they win,
they'll have a fifty chance. If they lose. If they draw,
the game one one, they'll know whatever they have got
a one in four chance because they still have a point.
So you're saying that they're not beating Germany or Portugal.
I'm not saying that. I'm talking we'll talk about chances
after they lose to Ghana. No chance, because you have

(01:27:39):
to factor in the other teams playing each other, Like
we need Germany and Portugal to draw. We've got to
get we need them to draw. Someone someone drawing. Now
everyone's on one, right, we draw, they draw, then it's
it's against port Portugal in the jungle. Let's go. We
gotta you know it's it's all you want is a
chance in the last game. But our problem is we're

(01:28:00):
not playing Algeria in the last game. We're playing Germany
in the last game. I would have much rather played
Germany the first game. Get it out of the way.
They make re rusty. They've got huge injury problems in
a team they're unbelievably talented, but they've got injury issues
and they have they're playing a kind of a funky
system with only one guy up front, one striker up front.
But Germany, and here's the problem, we need listeners to

(01:28:23):
tweet us worms credibility on all this, because he could
just be saying we don't know anything. Were three, he
could be just playing a game with us. But if
they if they don't win, but but you don't have
any chance. Brazil is uh. Brazil is is one hour
east of the Eastern times in most in most time

(01:28:45):
most so if for those living on the East coast,
it could be the match kicks off at the top
of the hour and of what's on your So it's
seven o'clock, eight o'clock easy games. The U S games
are at six o'clock, six o'clock in the east Portugal
h so we're afternoon Ghana six o'clock, portgal six o'clock

(01:29:08):
and the last game is at noon against So Brazil
is the is the favorite to win in its own
host country one before? Yes, oh yeah they have now
the host country is a once that was France uh
in South America. The last time to turn it was
in South America Argentina one. They were the host team
in nineteen seventy. Did the Italians have a chance since
obviously the pope is from this neck of the woods,

(01:29:31):
Can the Italians go into the Pope's neck of the woods,
I know, but it's a big fan of this this
team in South America. Oh the I mean, it's been
a long time since the World Cup was in South America.
South American has never been a pope. Correct. This is
the first pop any from Argentina. So don't you think

(01:29:55):
Messy went to the Vatican with a plant. He gave
the hoba plant, okay, and he blessed, blessed Messy. And
I think that Argentina the plant and the plant Argentina.
It was, it was, it was a nice he was
just he was wasn't no, no, it was. It was

(01:30:17):
kind of like in a fern family. Yeah, I think so.
So Argentina has quite possibly the most exciting attacking group
of any of the teams. They are unbelievably loaded up front.
Well group they're in Group F, which is literally all
over the map Argentina, Nigeria, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Iran. Iran.

(01:30:39):
Bosnia has got a night first time ever in the
World Cup. There's a tremendous, tremendous piece. ESPN the magazine
did on that did on on a Pisa itch who
was one of their players lost half his family during
the well speaking of fighting great pieces the world wide
leader did our our friend Shappy Jeremy chap turned the

(01:31:01):
whole cutter um issue it's inside. It was important that
a piece like that got out here in the United States.
That is things that we have known in the soccer world.
What's going on? What we oh, it's it's it's it's
it's really bad. Positively it's really bad. And how they
got it. And now there's the whole thing about um

(01:31:22):
I think, what's going to happen because it's so corrupt.
Here's how it works. They've hired this American um named Garcia,
who worked in the in the Bush administration as a
as a big lawyer, was in the Southern District of
New York, which is the big you know where they
were the US government goes to knock people out, um son.

(01:31:43):
Otherwise for for you to Chris law where law and
order takes place. Yes, yes, so so he Michael Garcia
has been hired by FIFA to be this independent, transparent
guy who is going to investigate everything that's been going
on match fixing because there is another thing. There's a

(01:32:04):
whole match fixing thing that's going on. There's a whole
thing and uh in the London Times, and then the
London Times unearthed all of the all the all the
former head of the UH, the of the Asian Football
Association who wanted everyone who wanted it was Yeah, that's right.

(01:32:25):
The New York Times was match fixing, The London Times
was was the world of bribery fixing. So here's how
it's gonna happen. This is my opinion. This is great stuff. Prediction,
just the prediction. Give me a prediction on how that's
gonna work out and who wins this World Cup. Prediction
on how it's gonna end up with with the with
the with eight years from now, Sep Ladder, since he

(01:32:51):
hired the guy, he will be somehow. He will be
in his own little bubble. Nothing will happen to him. Promoted,
he'll be, He'll be president. He'll be president again. He's
gonna get next week, is the colors? Yeah, because the
people who will be But the people were going for
his gig were the ones who got nailed in the

(01:33:12):
New York Times and the London Times pieces partially, but
there's really no one in the London Times. Speceis aren't
even banned for life. Well, I think the only guy
who's gonna go after him would be Platini. And Platini
is part of the whole mess because apparently his sons
and his son in law got kicked backs and monies
and this and that. There's only one person who can
fix this, and that's Tim Tebow. It is he get

(01:33:33):
Tebo involved? Maybe maybe maybe it wasn't America. It was
an American foot Let me tell you. It was international
football that my friend told me he's going to get
the gig. Maybe that's what it is. So give me
your prediction, Give me your prediction. Is the world comes
where the World Cup and even eighteen might be up.
That's Russia. Russia for full on revotes there will I

(01:33:55):
think there'll be a revote where it's gonna be. I
don't know. We should get it because we have all
the stadiums. The problem is is that FIFA gets a
little bit of money, a little bit of a little
bit of did you just do the football of the construction. Yeah,
they're they're beak. They went their beak a little bit,
They let their beak a little bit. That's my thing.

(01:34:17):
And then who wins this World Cup over? I mean
it's got to be Brazil. I have Brazil and Argentina
in the phone. Who's your dark horse? If there was
a team that about Italy, they have player uh Italy,
will I have? I have Italy not going into the
not getting out of the group stage for the second
straight turny, Wow, I have your ago. I have England
winning that group and you're Aguay finishing a second how

(01:34:39):
about that? But I will say this, and you have
the US not getting out right? Um, come on, seriously,
you don't have them getting out because that means either Germany,
Portugal's Portugal. Here's the port school is dicey because they
don't have the people around Ronaldo like people around Messy.

(01:34:59):
Argent that the people around Messy have a much better,
much better than the people that they have around. We're not.
It's gonna be it's gonna be fasterating who's got the
coolest name on Brazil because they're always with the one
name is like Hulk. They have Fred and Fred. Listen,
there's one. There's one. There's only one name in this
World Cup and we know the name, and it's Gus.

(01:35:21):
It's Gus, Gus, It's Us, It's us starting the next
year's Women's World Cup and they can see exclusively on Fox.
But we're not gonna get any We're not gonna get
any gusts even just calling games just for for fun
in his own house and then putting it online. No,
we've been, you know, we've been. We won't be doing that. No.
I mean, he's calls another he calls enough games. Dark's

(01:35:46):
my favorite. He's great, he's great. I'm gonna soaked this
one in because you get the next one, right, we
get the next, we get, we get all the stuff.
The Women's World Cup, Vancouver, Canada. Are you gonna go?
Am I gonna go? Where? Does that answer your question? Now?
Just be careful because that would be a long flight

(01:36:06):
type of service. And actually I'm actually dealing with golf. Oh,
because do we have something called we have the US Open. Yeah,
but it's our it's a transitional year. Two h We
don't have it this year, last year. We get it
next year. Joseph Joseph and the Booth in the eighteen Man.
I love it, I love it. I love him and
I love it. I love it. Joe Buck and Greg Norman. Wow,

(01:36:28):
didn't even Joe Buck is going to be the Voice
of US Open Golf and Greg Norm will be great.
That's gonna be weird. We're we're gonna do some stuff
for Fox Match and Joe Buck has been with Aikman,
McCarver and now Norman. It's gonna be great. I think
people are gonna be really, really going to be They're
really gonna like it seriously. Well, so you say Brazil

(01:36:49):
winds in the dark horse with the dark horse, God,
I've got so many dark horses. But to pick one
one guy, one team that might there's something I don't
have him going through going farm it man. The Ivory
Coast has got the best player in the Premier League. Yeah,
I got Terade. They've got this thing, caustic, the the

(01:37:12):
the the. We're waiting for the African team to break
through the semifinals. They have the best opportunity to do
it with their draw with the team they have. Did
he eat drug about even though he's fifty years old
or whatever? Just scores goals. They have such great talent
if they could just get off away from themselves, just

(01:37:32):
kind of play. They're not in a hard group, or
they're in a pretty manageable group. There the group of
life that is a group of life because the last
two times they play. I mean, what is the opposite
of the group of death? Easy? Easy groups like Brazil's
group like Brazil, Brazil's group of cake. That would be
the group of cake because I'd like to be in
that group right now. The Brazil's group is a layup. Mexico,

(01:37:54):
they are gonna they are gonna destroy everybody in that group,
keeping on keeping on. This their second round, they're they're
around a sixteen. The quarterfinal matches might be the toughest
road of any team. There's only having easy there. They
could play Chile in the second round, they could play
Uruguay or Colombia in the quarterfinals. That is that is

(01:38:18):
no that airs the pressure on them. They have a
face any pressure for money. All these games, have been
playing these friendly and he put on put on a
show Samba. They are gonna be in the second half
of one of these games. And he's not early knock
out stages where they are up against it. It's too
too It's they're down to one who is going to

(01:38:38):
be able to do it? His name? Are gonna be
able to do it? Hulk who's coming off the bench.
That's say they're gonna there's so much pressure on them.
It's great. It's gonna be fantastic. It's a great event.
And it's on the worldwide leader this year. A yeah, um,
thank you, Jason, Worms of great. Can I can I
come act during the season? Yeah? We just we may

(01:39:01):
not be here, but you may Okay, you know, got
you okay, okayst to read between is taking your job,
JB taking my job. I don't know what's going on.
You got it. You're on, You're on. There's like sixteen
people on six to seven thirty eight thirty James Brown

(01:39:23):
and it's James Brown and Dianna and Bill cow Thursday.
Hello friends with Phil games doing I they doing like
like what you guys have, like Oakland and like Cleveland.
Nanson Sims do all sixteen, there's some, there's some Nanson
Sims do all know that most of the games wor
worm I have been here eight years doing Thursday night football.

(01:39:46):
This is the best Thursday night football schedule week ever had.
The first half is yeah. The second half is pretty
good too, and you can JF is taken on in
the second rounds Bengals. If you can't stay on June fourth,
which games are going to be dogs? Like, remember that
a couple of years ago we had we had, oh,
we had a week sixteen game Colts Texans. We circled

(01:40:07):
it absolutely gonna be for the a f C South Championship. Instead.
It was one week after Dan Orlovsky won game one
of the season for the Colts against T. J. Yates
for a Texans team that had already wrapped up the division.
And you know what, the game ended with Reggie Wayne
catching a game winner to beat the Texans for a

(01:40:28):
second consecutive win in a row for the crew. Oh
my god, it was. It was intense going into it.
We're like, are you kidding me? We gotta fly all
the way out there for this and it turned out
to be great. Jim rsy came on the set beforehand
and was talking about Peyton's future luck being number one
overall pick if they lose out. Oh, it was great.

(01:40:50):
You never know some of these games, but no, uh
my uh. James Brown has has Thursday Night Football with
Bill with Bill caw In deed. Yeah, the question is
right the for the guy at home, it's like, how
are we watching the game? Am I watching it on
the eye? Am I watching on the shoe. You can
watch every game on on the shield, only the first

(01:41:11):
eight I understand. Am I watching on the eye? Am
I watching on the sheet? I don't know either way.
Either way the shields getting out there? Oh there's no
I got it. I think at some point nance where
you're expecting to tell you what's coming up on the
next episode of Two Broke Girls, is gonna tell you
what's coming up on? You know, Friday, Friday Friday. Hey,
join bought Brian Baaldinger on the Friday night edition to playbooks.

(01:41:33):
Am dancing with something? You're gonna hear that from oh Man? Yes,
an all new episode, Mark Kritic is going to talk
to the wall. Yes. And then on Two Broke Girls,
Two Broke Girls Funny Show. Yeah, that was from the

(01:41:55):
Saturday Night Live send up Two Broke Girl of the
super coverage from James Brown and the crew. Nothing will
get me, Nothing gets me going more than the rest
the soul pats somewhere all but he did, he did,
he did. I absolutely fell on the floor New House

(01:42:21):
Streets and man was like Boom when he was on
CBS some summer all would part. He would pronounce the
comma and Murder, she wrote. By pausing on Murder, she wrote,
Tom Bosley guest stars and at All New Murder, she wrote,

(01:42:44):
And then he's like off the age here boom right.
He would't even recognize it. I've told the Manhattan story
on this show, haven't not? Can I tell you the story? Wait?
Can I? What's the what's the the summer all Manhattan story?
I've never told that. I'll finish up with this because
it is long enough. Did you want Do you want

(01:43:05):
to hear my crazy two thousand ten South Africa story?
Not really sure. It's a famous person. It's a worldwide
famous person. Um, he's a man of the cloth that
I had a that I had a meeting with Desmond
Worm and Desmond too, the Bridge version of it. I'm

(01:43:26):
flying home, flying back. I'm spending five days on the plane.
I was just five. If there's only one person, it's
probably the word. I'm coming back from the city, watching
the quarters in the semis in Cape Town, spending five
days in Cape Town, which is, by the way, one
of the world's great cities. It is absolutely it's unbelievable. Anyway,

(01:43:50):
I'm on a plane that I can't fly direct to
Johannesburg because it's too much money. I mean, it's like
it's prohibitive. So I'm taking like a little punnle jumper
to a small town called East London did and then
take another plane to Johannesburg. So in my seat, ready
to go. All of a sudden, I go, I hear it.
Excuse B look up and I go, oh, are you intend? B?

(01:44:13):
I go, yes, Archbishop to too, I'm ten, B, you said,
Archbishop to this? And he goes, but you know, what
is the seat next to you? Open? I go, yes
it is, I'll move over. Oh no, I love the
window seat. So he comes in and sits down. So

(01:44:34):
if he's sitting in the window seat, he'll never use
a laboratory. Who knew this would be? So he's in
the seat and I go and I gotta. We were
talking for a little bit. The dog not hees, what
are you doing? I go, I work for America Television.
I'm here. I was watching World Cup. What do you think?

(01:44:54):
The World World Cup has been spectacular? But you know,
just small toss. So what happened? He and I go
and I to him just before we took off, I go,
excuse me, archbishop, do you mind if I look at
your boarding pass just to make sure like we're in
the same you know, it might have been a mistake.
He might be in the part front of the plane.
He's sure, gives me. He goes, his says, port, Elizabeth,

(01:45:17):
not port not not the wrong He's on the wrong plane.
His guy dropped him off because you it's not like
a gate like we had a go to gate foro.
Do you want to walk to that little the tunnel
take you a bus? Because you do? So button and
I go, You're on the wrong plane. So I got
the attention of the you know, of of the flight
of tenants. I go Desmond too. You know, Archbishop two

(01:45:38):
two is on the wrong plane. You may want to
not leave. So he gets up and he said, oh no,
he's like he's just scrambling to get off the plane.
He's running off the plane. I go, archbishop, archbishop, you
you left your book. He has this black book, you know,
a calendar, and I'm thinking about Charlie. Think about what

(01:46:00):
he gives this black book. Presidents, yes, foreign leaders, Pope Mandela,
you know, you know Bob the pizza guy who knows
what's in the like I was like ready that kind
of h but I handed it to him so and
he thanked me. He blessed the plane, he did, he
blessed everybody on the plane for good health and safety

(01:46:21):
and all that, and off he went off. He went
a great story. That is a great story. And then
I sat next to like a like an eight year
old who was with her friend who was in the
next row. She was ten, and they were yapping the
whole and they took a giant nile shots. That's what
Law flew with this past week. Just whatever, whatever, Just

(01:46:46):
listen to the dog whatever the plane with Chris Law
details you to that at everybody, seriously google his name.
That's what google your name. Dog poops on plane in
my name's just I got a dog Desmond tutute all
over my flag. It was insane. Why are you we

(01:47:10):
can't read? Here's here? There's many questions. They're all answered
at the first portion of this podcast when you listen back,
I mean inside edition, Adam Crowler Pete read Peter King's
Money Morning Quarter. Now I'm gonna tell the story. I
gotta tell this story since I already set it up,
and then we'll be done. Since we're approaching two hours,
are we Yeah, we're about at UH. When I did
the US Open on CBS UM back in two thousand three,

(01:47:32):
four and five, that was on the back end of
my honeymoon when my agent called me to say that
CBS had called him asking if I'd be interested in
uh and hosting the late night highlights show on CBS
US Open. Tennis. Yes, tennis, and I'm in. I mean
a New Yorker. I mean that's the ultimate event, with

(01:47:55):
all due respect to the Stanley Cup that the Rangers
are in against the King, any New York there is
one quintessential New York event. And outside of the you know,
you can mention the Big East Tournament, but for sure
I'm in. I'm so um, I'm covering it. And I
get to call out of I call matches in the

(01:48:16):
grandstand the weekend of Labor Day, so I have to
call a tennis match on CBS. I got the blazer
and everything, love and life. This is great. So um.
The producer who gets in your ear or for a
long time tennis producer named Bob Monsbach, great guy, one

(01:48:36):
of the they're all great people at CBS. Great love
working with him. So he told me. Essentially a couple
of things. Shut up during points, do not talk over
And I'm like, listen, I've watched tennis my whole life.
You know. My parents would only let us watch TV
on the black and white television that they would wheel
into the kitchen. Only well, only watch television during dinner

(01:48:58):
once a year, and that was during in the US
Open final. They would wheeld the television and I would
watch mcenroll and and Connors and Borg go at it
on the black and white TV and Staten Island kitchen.
So I'm like, I know it. Don't talk between points
every now and then you gotta set up, you know,
your analysts, you know, in the proper way. Be quiet

(01:49:19):
for your analyst, and always read the copy on the
cards we give you for the sponsors. And I'm like,
that's basic stuff. And he goes, look at me, do
it because it hasn't always happened that way here, And
I'm like, what are you talking about? And he told

(01:49:40):
me the story that summer all who would do the
matches for the blimp shot the Good Year blimp would
be showing you the skyline of New York City and
instead of reading the entire copy of the good Year
blimp that's above New York. They have to read it.
He would just look at the copy and look at
the screen and just go man Hattan and that's it.

(01:50:08):
And they'd be like, read the copy. He wouldn't. The
next time they show the beautiful shot because they have
to make up for it. They show the beautiful shot.
There it is the skyline. There it is again. Paul's
man how many Manhattan said he had at this that

(01:50:32):
point of the story that I'm trying to avoid, but
apparently they were. He was also hanging out with his
friend Rob Roy. Okay, dog get his dog to the Greyhound.
So it's now time for me to do the match.

(01:50:52):
And sure enough it's time for the blimp shot. And
they hand me the card and the good Years blimp
and everything, and they showed the shot on the screen.
It's a skyline of New York City. And I go
and Bob Mansbach from the truck gets in my ear car.

(01:51:15):
I told you to Did you read it? Yeah, of
course they did. They had first, but he jumped the
gun because he was so paranoid. I love it. I
just started working together. That is so fucking How could
I not given the opportunity do it. And of all

(01:51:37):
the shots they could have shown the Tennis Center, they
could have shown JFK, they could have shown anything, the island,
the same shot see it as a sleep. Oh so anytime, man, man,
anytime I see any of those shots forever, I'm like
in my head, I'm gonna man, that's funny? Is funny?

(01:51:57):
All right? Well, thank you sir, It was fun You
want to promote any of your shows that you're you're doing.
We have the golf next week. You see Joe and
Greg on Fox Sports Live. They'll be doing. They'll be
doing Wednesday to Sunday. You know, it'll be a wrap
up every every day's you know, a tournament. Um. And

(01:52:19):
then we have this thing called the Guinness Cup, big
international soccer tournament. Big teams Real Madrid and Barcelona, Real
Madrid and uh the Milan clubs and Manchester. You and
either playing at the Big House. We've got a game
on August the second in the Big House. Have you
the last time you're there? Oh my god, it's gonna

(01:52:40):
be twenties, totally red. I went there a couple of
weeks ago. It looks incredible. Okay, Big House. We'll set
an US record for most human beings at a sucker match.
I've already sold a hundred thousand tickets. Who's in it?
Real Madrid v. Manchester United on your local Fox station
at four Eastern time, Blimps showing up. It's gonna be

(01:53:05):
And what's the deli there? I want to go to
Salmon's Deli provided the provisions. So Gus is in the
on the crawl, Gus will not. I don't think you'll
be calling that game, but guess is going to be doing?
Are we doing a lot? We'll leave it there, Rise

(01:53:26):
and fire at Worms underscores underscore sixty six On Twitter?
Is there an international shadow? It's this entire show, but
I do have one. Arvid Gantier with an underscore in there,
says I joined Twitter just to get an international shot up.
He never misses a podcast. Greets from Belgium and go Pats. Thanks.

(01:53:51):
I got a good team, man, Belgium has got a
good good team. That's course. A lot of people think
they can do some damage, but they have been in
it this, This group of guys have never been in
a situation like this. Really good team. They half the
team plays in England. That's no that's no Belgium waffling
there and please try the hand. Chris Law, the man

(01:54:16):
of Dogship Flight five. We set a record for bleeps
on this one down. Oh no, it's not down by
bleeping out. Bleeps are out, the bleeps are in. Yeah,
definitely a new record today. I'm sure I'll get some

(01:54:38):
tweets about a couple of slipping by the he This
is the king of the bleep five hole. Seriously, it's inevitable.
Every week the tweet comes with you missed one, Like
I was telling a story. He has got He has
got a major five hole when it comes to that.

(01:54:59):
So he's not playing. He's not playing the Stanley Cup finals.
He's not. He was bounced a few grounds or all
the good ones. A couple get bycage over here, Lester Patrick.
Good job at Chris Law. Again, very well handled. Part
of the reason why this went viral is not only

(01:55:20):
because of the all the touchstones and stories. You you,
you were, you, you reported it wonderfully like your social media. Yes,
you tweet about him, and you tweet about thet up
by the Edward Armorrow of dog Yes, that's feet. That's
one more than almost got by Chris law. That's it

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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!

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