REP: Kevin Costner

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download many podcasts, but when I do, I prefer Rich
Eyes and podcast is your host Rich. Hey, everybody, welcome
to the latest edition of the Rich Eyes and Podcasts
that comes to you from our swanky Culver City studios
um now one month removed as of today from the

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NFL Draft. Normally, Chris Brockman and Chris Law we'd be
coming down the home stretch here. We'd be coming down
the home stretch of mocking drafts, mocking people who mock drafts,
mock draft ten. Yes, but we have to It's a
marathon this year. We're not sprinting to the finish here. Again.

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Normally we'd be two weeks away, right, Yeah, normally the
last week of it's right now, we have to wait
and that means more visits. We're hearing the Jaguars are
throwing their doors open to everybody, and the speculation about
how good is Teddy Bridgewaters really, I mean it's not well.

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The Browns want are going to have everybody in themselves.
Have you gotten any calls, Rich, I have for what
for Pro Day? I'm still I'm still not franchise tag here.
I am in April I thought I'd be franchise tag
by now I'm gonna be I I'm gonna be unrestricted
real soon. No transition, no, no transition tag no, no

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tags at all, unbelievable. So I'm tag less like a
like a Michael Jordan's Haynes T shirt. That's what you are.
I don't know if that's really appropriate, but bottom line is, uh.
You know, the Browns are are an interesting case because
they could go in any direction. They can go in

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absolutely any direction. They need a lot and you know,
we're gonna find out what's going on with Alex Max
soon enough, their center, who they should be able to keep.
That's been going on for a long time. I mean
that's what happens when you transition to somebody. But at
some point that dance will end and I think he'll
stay because nobody could spend more than the Browns, where

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I think I have thirty millions of the cap. Only
quarterbacks on the Brown's roster right now, Rich Brian Hoyer
and Alex Tenney. Well, I'll tell you what. If Hoyer
is healthy, I'm not worried about that, but they are
going to have to draft somebody, and the question is
who wouldn't win? And they are fourth in the draft order,
and they got that second one from Indianapolis for the

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and I'm not you know, I mean, so they didn't
go to the pro day of Johnny Manziel and didn't
go to the pro day of Jadeveon Clowney. They'll have
him in right. And it just shows that now we're
in the part where maybe not even so working out
at the combines not that big and working out at
there and having and your pro day. It's all gonna

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come down to the private workouts now, is that what
it is? And all of us who are trying to
spend time to get from the Super Bowl to the draft,
we're just doing some sort of kabuki dance. Is that
the way it's going right now? Is it? Noise? It
might be? I mean, all these these these workouts have
to mean something, right. I don't know. We'll find out, man,

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when it comes in May eight, and then we're gonna
have to wait several years to find out what happens
May eight to night that if it means anything right,
I'd love to hear from from some guys who they
see on tape that they love and then they work
out and they drop based on a workout or vice
versa where their tape doesn't show it, like at Jamacus Russell,
maybe Mike Mamula, Mike Mamula, and then they just escalate

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the workout warriors. That's hop up the board. And all
I know is from hearing from people. Um, because I
have my ear to the ground, my ear to the ground,
my nose to the grindstone. I'm um, i'm a, I'm
a draft empaths say, these are sources. Uh, and this

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is the most talented draft that they that we've had
in the history of NFL network, which is this is
our eleventh draft. People say the first round, and it's
not just loaded with talented people. It's like the kids
when they were being interviewed, our bright eyed and down
to earth and get it. This is I mean, these

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kids are really good. And that's why maybe guys like, uh,
maybe the Browns are It's a good let's put it
in the rams. It's good to have two first round
picks this year, and you might see a lot of
people trading draft picks in future years to get into
the first round of this draft because they are that good.

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This is a talented group of first round kids. And
then there are some positions, as we've talked about over
the past few weeks, very very deep. It's going to
be a good draft day, you would say, oh, yes,
like the film. Yes, like the film that premiered last night.
How was it? It was fun, good time, It was fun.
Sat next to Jeff Darlington and his wife. They were

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celebrating their second year anniversary. I saw he tweeted a
he got side photo bombed by Mike Tyson on the
red carpet. Well, he photo bombed Mike Tyson with his wife.
That's how they celebrated their second anniversary. I didn't want
to tell Jeff he's gonna have to step his game
up eventually, you know, fifth anniversary. That's not one of
the let's go, let's go to red carpet, let's got photo,

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let's go, let's go hang out at the Draft day premiere.
It was a good time. It was a good time.
It was a good time. And in the movie All
Stars with Her Yea Ellen Burston was there, plays the
mom of Sunny Weaver Jr. The general manager of the
Cleveland Browns, Frank Landgello was there. The owner of the
Cleveland Browns, Anthony Mauleen is his name, and um so

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the man with whom I was in the scene in
draft day, he was there. I wanted to read lines,
wanted to read lines on the day where apparently I
pitched a fit that it got back to Ivan Rightman's attention.
As he said on last week's podcast, he said, there
are many idiot syncrasies of Burman. No, No, it is

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the West Coast, so lest coast. They're having an East Coast,
which I'm sure it's Hanna ESPN. People will be at
that one. It's more geographically sound for Burman. And and
Groods the carpet who the commission will he be there
that I don't know, you think I don't know, but
it's great in the credits as himself Commissioner Roger Goodell.

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It's not Roger Dell, they said, Commissioner Roger Goodell. And
then the next because it's the it's it cast an
order of appearance. So Burman is the first voice you
hear in the film. So he's the first name of
the order of appearance, Chris Burman. Yeah. And then after
Roger appears for the first time in the film, after

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the commissioner appears, who's the next person who appears the
first time in the film me so in the credits,
it says Commissioner Roger Goodell as himself and then right
underneath rich eyes and as himself, and as that happened
last night, Susy says, you should take a pature. My
phone didn't operate fast and time for me to snap
off the picture. But it's a good movie. It's a

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fun movie. Is some funny scenes in it. And Kevin
Costner is in a sports movie. I mean, think about it.
The last one he did was it was the last
sports movie he did for Love of the Game, which
is a movie that he wrote and and um directed.

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Means his baby. He played a Detroit Tiger's picture. We
all know obviously the back to Back and eighty nine films,
Bulderham and Field of Dreams back to back. He did
those movies, and then Tin Cup in the nineties where
he played Roy McAvoy, the golfer. Okay, so those are
the three sports movies that he did, two of them

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with Ron Shelton, Bull Durham and and and Tin Cup.
And here he is back in a sports movie and
it's for the first time ever a football movie. And
I'm not going to give anything away the last thirty
minutes when the draft day, actual draft day builds to
a crescendo, and Costner's doing his thing. I mean, he's
doing his thing. He's Kevin Costner is as good as

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anything that he's done, seriously, and I'm seeing it tomorrow night.
I'm looking forward to you should and on today's show.
Kevin Costner in studio. I mean we had him on
our our kickoff special when I went and visited him
on the set in Ohio when they were on the
set shooting the film last summer. Now it's finally out,

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and uh, it's different when you're sitting there in a
camera and there's a crew and he's he had to
be pulled off the set, that's right. They had. They
had to blow a half hour into his schedule window
for for that to happen, for him to come in.
And it's different when you've got that set up and
then than an actual in studio where you're just sitting

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across the table or next to him. We're about and
people let their guard down kind of in here, which
is great. Well, you know what it is, it's it's
my interview style of course, of course it's not the
pictures and the pennants on the walls. And but you know,
the big story I want to get to before U

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Costner walks in here is um the big Twitter beef
that Chris Law had this past weekend with Winona Judd.
It's real. We're not making this up, dude, Law, What
in the world is this all about? Seriously? If the

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Final Four was this weekend and it was interesting, last
night's Draft Day premier was up against the final game,
and everybody comes out of the theater and one of
the first things that are like, so, who won the game?
We had no idea and yu can wins the game,
which means Winona was a little bit depressed Monday night.
I assume you didn't go after her. You didn't troll Winona,
but you did accuse, of all people to troll you

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on Twitter, Winona Judd, she was trolling me, Rich. How
did this come about? Well, I'm watching the game. I'm
up in Tahoe Saturday, Saturday, Kentucky against Wisconsin. And it's
one of those throwaway comments that pretty much every reporter
makes that, oh, Ashley Judd's a huge Kentucky fan, and

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they always say it, and then they panned to her
the show some moment, and you know, Winona's kind of
the for not I don't want to say forgotten what.
I'm sure she's very talented and has her skills and everything,
but actually gets all the attention. So, you know, I
just figured could be a funny joke to just throw
out the fact that Winona Judd is a die hard
Badgers fan, like little known fact. Actually Judd gets all

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the acclaim. Then somebody apparently added Winona to the tweet
because you just put her name. I just put her name.
I didn't. I didn't now was this was this tweet
infused by any libation vacation? This was an appray Ski

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scenario where you're watching the late game on Saturday. Yes,
even though we are you're in Tahoe. It's three hours
behind the rest of the East Coast. It's still seven o'clock.
But you've had a day on the slopes, which, as
you know, if you have one after day on the slopes,
it equals like three and there's seven I p s
up there in Tahoe, which hit hit a little harder. Okay,

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all right, okay, so um so the answer to that
is yes, then yeah, there was a little lubrication going. Okay,
So then you tweet that out and then one of
your how many followers do you have? Now he's he's
he's racing, closing in on six I think the upper
five nines and what are We used to do this

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with regularity? But we stopped doing it almost somehow somehow
I got eight behind. So are you let's not We're
gonna get to that at a moment. So, so then
somebody attaches her actual Twitter handle to the to your tweet.
She thought I was being serious and puts that's why

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I love at Winona music, Go Badgers, because she thought
I was being serious. And then I guess Winona then
saw that tweet and decided to reply to me, Oh really,
and you know that because that she's a Badgers fan,
which she clearly isn't that. I just decided to play
ball from there and retweet and say, are you denying

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your Badger fanhood? Winona? Question mark? So your trolling? How
say you started trolling her? Trolling her? She she's there,
She's just there enjoying a big Kentucky game and doing
what most of us do, which is watched watch the game.
Ball having a Twitter open, and then suddenly some hillbilly

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late Tex salesman troll troll. Okay, okay, at least that's
the way I'm reading it right now, go ahead, So
I guess it continued on. Um uh, I can't even
follow the entire We've we've reached the YadA YadA YadA
portion of this story. So then at the YadA YadA YadA,
she called me a big She goes, oh, is that

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what you think, your big stud? And then I put
if I had a dollar every time I was called that,
and she put that you'd have a quarter. That's That's
when I started fluing into this insanity. And then I
looked at the the you know how the exchange went
on and on, and I'm like, what in the world
has happened. I was at the movies, so I missed
all of this. So I, what were you see? Bad

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words with a friend of the program, Jason Bateman that
I can't wait to see, right, very funny, very funny,
highly suggested from the Christmas So I'm seeing our text
chain and then getting caught up all of this is happening,
and I am I have no idea what's going on?
Do we get a Judd the podcast. Do we go
about doing that? I don't know if we can share

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the same airwaves. I think we just love her a
tweet and say hey, would you like to come on?
I really think it could be that simple. She's obviously
monitoring her app mentions. It's true. Okay, it's true. Maybe
we'll have somebody. Here's what we'll do. She didn't apologize
to me. Why why would she appologize to you? Of
all people, you're the idiot sitting there or the drinking

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off the slope accusing her being a Wisconsin fan because
her sister is getting all the attention for being a
Kentucky fan, which of course she is, because of course
she's an actress for years who has been wearing Kentucky
stuff forever. She damn near ran for Congress for senate there, right, yeah,
and why not? It was the huge country star in
the eighties and nineties. And she's apologizing to you. Well, look,

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you know, man, I don't know what to say here.
By the way, that's only the tip of the iceberg
with lost stories from this week. Yeah, okay, we'll get
to some more of those later on Tease Rich. I
like it, and then of course we'll get to the
um latest and I guess final entries unless I don't,
unless I'm not knocked bowled over or have my socks

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knocked off by these open entries. Last week was listen.
They were great. I enjoyed them. I'm beyond flattered that
um that I'm getting. I'm getting people putting this stuff together,
you know, for an open, But I really didn't. I

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wasn't crushed, I wasn't blown away. I want to be
blown away and say that this is a listener created
open that I want to put on the top of
this show for at least eight and a half months.
The law gets around to do under one no, so
I have listened to we did get a bus. Usually,
what is the shelf life of our opens for us

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six months? And how often do we put together a
new show? Once or twice a week. Often, I'm gonna
start getting ahead of this. I will start doing a
new one at least every other man every other week,
says the man had to put mute on the latest

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conference call about the NFL draft between all tentacles of
the NFL media organization. You had to mute it because
we were talking you were on it. It's still going
on right now. I bet right. I hung up the
call about five minutes. And how long has it got me?
You know the schedule? You say it, you say it.
You're gonna be in charge of the mock Draft this year,
which airs when on NFL Networks Tuesday night at nine pm.

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And who's in it? The same cast of character hosted
by Mike Mayock. He's the commissioners, the commissioner, Rich Eysing,
Charles Davis, Dave Dannischik, Steve mary Uchi, Brian Billick, Daniel
Jeremiah Marshall Folk if I didn't say him, and Melissa,
And uh no, Melissa is not a part of it
this show because last year, if you were called, Marshall

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got sick and Daniel Jeremiah slid in and took his place.
Oh and he was such a natural at this gig
and Daniels are now Yes, so the natural progression there
was had to had to keep Daniel part of the show.
And uh I actually talked to him most about she's
still gonna be a part of the show, put in
a different capacity. And what's my pick? You're picking third overall? Oh,

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so I have the Jaguars pick. You have the Jaguars,
and we don't do trades. Trades, and unless less need
who we have to get back on this show. Yes,
all right, I'm we're gonna get him, and if not
next week, the week after, if he's so inclined, because
every year we have him. Before the draft two years ago,
he left some big fat breadcrumbs on the table on

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the tape of a trail behind him to the eventual
RG three trade, where he mentioned the number of number
one picks that in the past would be typical for
a trade of the one that everybody considered he might make.
He left those bread crumbs on the on the podcast table.

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And he's got two first round picks again this year,
one of them from that one of them from that trade.
The last bread crumb from that trade is going to
be gobbled up this year unless he trades out of
that too, spot, which whispers are flying. I know that,
but I'm believing again from what I'm hearing, this draft
is so loaded and talented in the first round. There's

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no reason to trade down or even out of the
first round to get picks in future drafts. In the
first round, it just isn't you want to get picks
from future drafts to get into this first round or
to trade down to get more picks in this draft. Well,
the first round, though, is a special thirty two pick range,

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and you have to figure that whoever's from thirty three
to forty five is on the periphery of this. So, yes,
at anyway we gotta get less on. But so I've
got the third pick, which means if who's number who's
choosing Houston? So Houston number one overall. Yes, had to
had to move Michael Irvin to the back end of
the because he because he chose Smith second overall last year,

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which made our mock draft stupid. Lee moot right off
the bat. I would have turned the channel on that
last year. So you you're taking Irvin out of the
equation top on the back end of number eight for
the Vikings, Brian Billick selecting first. So if he takes Clowney,
then who's choosing for less Okay Marshall for the for

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the Rams, and he's not gonna go quarterback. So I'm
going to be in our mock draft. This is big.
I'll tell you right now. I'm taking Johnny Man's own
ye are Yeah? Yeah, you are if he's available. You
don't think Bill pulls the trigger at Well, we'll find
out when is this March May airing Tuesday May six,

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streaming on NFL dot Com and then Rearing a Future.
And the reason why we bring this all up is
that's exactly why you're not going to be on top
of any future open in this show. So what whoever
we choose on this program later on, well last at
least through draft, have to yeah, because how on the
world are you possibly going to be able to juggle
all of this from this podcast to that mock draft,

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to all the other things that you do for this
network and then in your spare time trolling will known
ah judd, I mean, how can you possibly just starn't
enough hours in the day. Sometimes you're also picking, so
you know you're picking eleven for the Tennessee Titans. Okay,
you're gonna be picking nineteenth overall for the Miami Dolphins
and then twenty seven overall for the Saints. Start thinking

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about that or not or not. We're just freaking winging
rich Yep, very good. So we've got a little the
opens uh still to come. But I couldn't be more
pumped because we have an a lister strolling through the door.
Please to have on the Rich Eyes and Podcast the
star of Draft Day Academy Award winning actor and director

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um Kevin Costner. Good to see you, sir. How are you,
um Sonny Weaver Jr. You play in this new film.
At one point this year, you were the more tenured
general manager of the actual Cleveland Browns. An interesting moment. Yeah,
there was a moment. Yeah. I mean I think all
those guys are hanging like the sort of a sophocally,
so like what is it gonna what is it gonna happen?

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You know, you think you want to be a gym?
Try it then mount now, now move your family away.
That's right, And that was a neat part of One
of the many neat parts about this film is that, um,
the pressures of the job. You you brought it home
and you could feel it, you could sense it. You're
wearing it on your face. Your actions uh um uh

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certainly portrayed what a lot of these guys go through.
Did you speak to any general managers at all throughout
the process. I talked to a couple of gms, but
I really, for the most part, I didn't have to
go very far past our script. I mean, for the
last twenty five years, ESPN has taken us into locker rooms.
I've seen gems yelling at coaches on television. I've seen them,

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you know, come in with it where the hat because
they're happy, and seen him go out with tears and
the new guy. So I been really privy to how
coaches and GM's interact, UM, and you know firsthand it's
right there on television. So for me, Um, I didn't
have to look very far. What I needed to make
sure was that the language were we were using was
authentic right, and it definitely was. There's no question about that.

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When you got this script, because it had been a
while since you were in the sports over that you
crushed to a point where going back to it it
could be a no win situation for you man in
your possession with bull during Field of Dreams. Are are
some of the top films all the time. You don't
even call some of these movies that you've been in

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sports movies. Did you think when this script landed on
your desk about that? No, I didn't. I didn't because
the same way as I thought about the others. You
know one baseball is supposed to be poison. I do
two in a row. They just happened to be really really,
I didn't back to back, so it's like, what are
you nuts? Um? I didn't really think about it. I've
always thought, you know, it's like if you if you're

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just after the supermodel all the time, you're gonna miss
the cutest girl of walks in the room. You know,
that's just the way it works. And what happens if
you're looking for something, you think, and these two great scripts,
American scripts came across my desk field of dreams, Bull Durham.
I had no choice. They were like, they were great.
They separated themselves and and Draft Day did the same thing.
It just was like, you know, if you were doing

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about Draft Day, you know, yeah, everybody's that's really fast paced.
You know, every ten minutes you gotta make a decision. Well,
if did that on film, it would be like watching
paint ry. We had to have all this life going
on in between. And so what happened was, you know,
was you know, we're dead guys come out of Cornfield.
Gonna be enough to make a movie. Now, if you
pitch it to me, I don't think so, you know,

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you want to watch a minor league or who doesn't
make it to the big leagues, because the real movie
is he makes it, right, the real movie is he
you know, and he doesn't you know? And so you're
gonna make a movie about draft? I mean, how outsiding
can that be? And and imagine to get there it
managed to get there. I mean that the day starts
out only good for two seconds. He sees his girlfriend

(25:36):
naked in the shower. That's it. And at that point
it starts going downhill. I mean, the people on TV
are killing him, the radio guys are killing him. His
mom is killing him, you know. Um, And and what
happens is he gets very little traction and there's, in
a moment laid into the movie, the universe starts to

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open for him a little bit and he steps through it,
and other people start to make mistakes, other people start
to get gunshy. And as I read it, that was
the only time I was going to be able to
figure out if it did that. And so when I
read it, I went, wow, this got kind of exciting.
I even as I'm reading, turning the page, I'm thinking,
he's just he's just screwed his team and there's no

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way out of this, and he doesn't have a master plan. Really,
That's another thing I liked about the movie. We don't
get to the end of the movie. He said, I
had it all the time. I knew exactly what I
was doing. He didn't. There was a moment in time, though,
where he took hold of himself as a person, says
it's gonna be my team, this is what I'm gonna do,
and everybody else started to make mistakes. Well, they just
liked it. There's no doubt in in the NFL Draft

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that general managers, teams, coaches, they have a plan going in,
but once the clock starts ticking, you have to live
in the moment. There's some lines in the film they
were great where it's just like, well, the deal has
changed because we're living in a different world than we
were in a couple of minutes ago, or even thirty
seconds ago. And that's that is one hundred percent And
those lines, those lines resonated, you know those lines. But

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I'm dealing with things like an owner who maybe wants
different colored helmets. So he's really healthy. Good line he's
having he's having a he's having a difficult time. You
can make the helmets however you want, right, But if
you're the in Cleveland, that's just a nonstarter. That's just yah,
what are you gonna do? Exactly? And but this film
as well, Um, in a way, a good sports film

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is more than just about what we're seeing the sports
characters go through. There's always something else that's going on.
Whether it's a in a movie like Hoosiers where the
coach has a pass that we're learning about the layered
effect that we're going through the journey with the coach,
or in Field of Dreams it's it's a father son
story that just has a baseball theme to it. There

(27:48):
is a father son theme to draft Day that causes uh,
the initial trade essentially to go down. And I thought
that was that was interesting. Do you what is your
philosophy on what makes a great sports movie? Kevin? You know,
I get to ask that because some people think that
somehow I have a touch for it. I would say, probably,

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don't make it too much about the sport, you know
what I mean? And that's not to say that when
it does the sports thing does happen. Is it authentic?
Is it talking about you know? We live in a
different time. Those catch lines, know you're dealing with men
who are you know, uh, you know, under pressure, all
those lines clewe us in when you do hit the sports.
But if it just stays about sports, it probably should

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be a documentary. It probably will not work. You can't
you listen. It's hard to watch you know, a nine
any game anymore at this point in my life, unless
it's a playoff game. It takes too long. So a
movie's got two hours? And how do you tell their story?
And if it's not about the girl boy thing, if
it's not about issues unresolved, um and and this and
this certainly was about those things. And all the movies

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you just described are about that. So what's the secret. Well,
don't make it too much about sports. But when the
sports in it, make it really authentic. Get players that play,
make sure the language is right, and uh, you know,
because when it is being played, the unfortunate thing is
people know when it's not right. And I mean what
I mean by that is, you know, you know a

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lot of people talk about Olivier being maybe you know,
our greatest actor. I guarantee if he couldn't throw a ball,
he couldn't. He couldn't act like he could. I promise
you he could not make that look right. And he's
maybe our greatest actor. He's not gonna he's not gonna
be able to pull it off. He's gonna look like
an amateur. He's gonna look like a girl. And and
it's one thing that you can't fake in this world.

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And so uh and even the non athlete detects it.
They can see it. And so there's something pure about
what we do. You know, we may cuss our game,
we may do all kind of things, but you know what,
if you can't play, you gotta get off the field.
And you shouldn't be in the movie either. And I
shouldn't make a movie about hockey. I can't escape. It
would be wrong to the guys who love it. It

(29:58):
would be wrong. But you wearing a suit and this
one I actually put on a coat and tie the
same one, ken, how many how many suits did you
have the same? There was a there was a couple
of three. One made the triple a suit double or
triple triple. I wore that. I really don't like these
lawyer movies. I don't like it. But there I was

(30:19):
in a suit. I was like, I just thought this
movie had a chance to be classic. I I really did.
If we held our line, if we um if we
got it to the point where somebody like you I
didn't know what was gonna come out of Sunny's mouth,
then we were right. I did not And when and when,
and more importantly, we have a we have a Red

(30:40):
Butler line in our movie. You know, movies couldn't be
about that. Sometimes lines that you wish you said, moments
you saw that wink, that look whatever. We got a
line in this movie you pancake eating then and what
happens is that that was That was a line I
threw in the movie because I did because I felt
this guy was a ad winner. Man, this guy in

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Seattle was a bad winner with me, and he was
really working me. And because I just noticed, you know,
he was always this pancake thing. I decided that moment
to speak for every dude in the world that thought
he was a bad winner. So when I said that,
I knew I was on really rock solid ground. And
that's when everybody wishes they could kiss a girl. Everybody wishes.

(31:23):
I wish I could have said that line to that
dude you dropped an m effor in there too. Yeah,
you know, And I knew that they were gonna have
to fight to keep this a pgirt and they did
because it it was organic. It just wasn't, you know,
using that language as a crutch. It was like you
you go ahead, that's fine. It was yeah. I mean,
and in that respect too, this is you know, the

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NFL throws their marks and logos around like manhole covers.
You know, they don't usually loan there in the commissioners
in this too, And that's part of the thing that
I'm most proud of, as well as I stayed for
the end credits to see I don't get to see
my name up on a side screen too often. Kevin
It says, I'm right underneath Roger Goodell playing himself there.
I am right underneath it and Rogers in this movie

(32:09):
acting in a way. And so he thought I had
a bigger part. You know, did he hit the cutting
room floor? He thought he got the girl and we
had to explain it. Yeah, you know what I mean.
It's tough to tell. R g One. I would have
done this movie if the NFL didn't endorse it, and
and I think they had a comfort level with me,

(32:30):
a comfort level with the script. But I sincerely would
have had to say no to this movie for a
really simple reason. I cannot stand movies about our game
and their jerseys I don't recognize, and their names of
teams that I don't like any given Sundays. Just as
hard for me to watch it that way. I don't
like it takes you out of it right away. Boom,
you're gone. Yeah, where that voice? Oh yeah, the marbles

(32:55):
on the floor, where's the castle? But yeah, yeah, and
in the NFL, I mean, this is not a rose
colored glasses script and film as well, at which I
was psyched about that the NFL is going to show
of some material on the screen here, happy about I

(33:17):
was pleased to see that it was really it was
really important that that that that that be that way
because you say to him, look at the sport's not
a saint, Okay, you and I can't make a scene
out of your sport. Understand. I have really strong feelings
about the NFL, emotional feelings about it. But if you
try to paint it as this is one thing, we're
going to fail as a movie. So that I think
they understood that we felt a little bit as underbelly

(33:39):
if you will. I mean, I remember when I did
Love of the Game, I had to talk to the
Detroit Tigers because we're here, there's some vulgarity in it.
I go, really, have you been to your own dugout?
I said, I, you know, and and it was. I
had a really frank uh discussion with her was yeah,
I think it was. And he was honest and he

(33:59):
was really it. And when we were done, he had
a lot of faith in me that that that the
Tigers were going to come off great, but in babe,
baseball was going to be fine, and it was. It
did does have that romance with what the game really is,
and he had to do it. Steinbrenner had had a
whole completely different problem with the movie that we Lose.

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He said, we lose. I said, George, it's a perfect game,
and he goes, the Yankees lose, and right away I
knew it was in trouble. I thought, Man, this movie
is not going to go And I started thinking. I went, George,
there's one more game to go in this season. You've
already won the pennant, the Tigers have just come into town.
This game means absolutely nothing and you win the next day.

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I mean, he actually even when you know you win
the pennant and you and you actually go on on
a good note. It's a game before you get you're
like six games ahead. And he went really, And I said, yes,
are you kidding me? I said, you can't beat the Yankees,
but you know it's just a fluke what happened? And
he went, okay, okay, And you know, um, I don't

(35:06):
think I've ever told anybody this. He gave me a
world series ring George Steinbrenner, which one I saw that
little head move on your Yeah, I caught your attention
when you've got my attention since soon you had met No,
but it was it was an interesting thing. That's how
I felt when he handed it to Which would you
remember which it was a championship was when I was

(35:28):
making the movie, so he was ninety nine. So it's
just like maybe the year before they had just they
had one Chili Davis I remember came in while I
was Cleander's locker. They were one hundred, twenty five and fifty.
I remember that off the top of my head of yeah,
I'm a diehard Yankee fan, but yeah, that's your Really,
you're like a stat fan, did you well? You go

(35:52):
one five and fifty. While we were waiting outside, he
came out. I'm a Red Sox fan, so he came
up to me and was like, oh, I was watching
into the Red Sox opening day of the Orioles, and
well we met him. We met in Fenway Park, Kevin.
You and I met in Fenway Park at one of
the greatest UH baseball moments. It really was ever and

(36:16):
the the All Star Game in Fenway Park with the
All Century team that you I had. I had tried
to duck that. I tried to duck that too. I
just want to finish up with George go ahead. It was,
it was. It was really a generous thing. I mean,
this is a man that could moods, could really swing.
But if he felt something about you, about what you've
done and how that movie looked and how the Yankees retreated,

(36:38):
that's what he did. I'll never I'll never forget it,
and I would never wear it. I put it away.
I would never. I didn't know what to do with that.
I felt kind of embarrassed that I would have one,
but I understood what the kind of man he was,
and how he would he would kind of make those
moves towards certain people. So I always like, I said,
I haven't told me about that story, but I never
warn it. But you're talking about the turn of the century.

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It was, it is unbelievable. It was. It was the
fifty greatest players. And they asked me to announce them,
and I said no. And it was like what I said,
there's got to be somebody better than me. Get cost
us to do it. Get somebody. I love voices. I
don't like my own. They tried three times to get
me to to to announce that, and I and I kept,
I kept suggesting other people and finally want somebody said, Kevin,

(37:24):
don't you kind of like get it? And I said,
but what do you mean? He goes, you are a
part of baseball, you know, whether you want to accept
it or not, you are a part of it. And
they kind of made me feel really good, you know,
And I went, and I'll tell you what. They fifty
greatest players. They wrote out these three by five cards

(37:45):
of each player and it was pretty good. It was like,
you know, seven eight lines, but it was like pretty poetic,
it was pretty It was pretty good. It wasn't just
twenty four Willie mays it was, and it wasn't just
say hey. There was three or four lines that I
thought that's good. And I went right down the list
and I thought, man, somebody who wrote these wrote really good.
So when I'm there in about an hour and a

(38:06):
half before I go, somebody says, you know, we're gonna
shorten knees we find that it's running too long. I said, no,
you're not, and they go, well, yes we are. This
is TV. I said, not with me and I and
I wasn't trying to put my my foot down or anything,
but I said, you had it perfect. If you cut
it in a half, something's gonna get lost. And I said,

(38:29):
this is a moment. I don't know what the moment is,
but this is a moment. I said, you had it right.
I'll say it faster. How's that? And there was just
like must have been some huddle somewhere, but it was like, okay,
well you let's do it all. And I felt so
much better. But about I never felt like I was
the right guy until about five minutes before it was

(38:50):
my my turn. I was on the field and I
was looking out there and I had been nervous the
whole time, and about four or five minutes before I
walked to behind home plate and started thinking, I thought
I am the right ken. It felt so good. I
don't know if I was or not, but I suddenly
felt I was, and I felt like I stuck up

(39:12):
for those that card, stuck up for the moment you
were because I was standing just a few feet behind you.
It was my job as the radio host of ESPN's
coverage of the of the All Star Game. We had
the radio rights, and I remember standing there. You came out,
and the All Century team came strolling out of the

(39:32):
garage of Fenway Park like it was the cornfield in Iowa.
They came strolling out all once. I'm getting goosebumps just
even talking about it right now, lining up between first
and second and second and third, and it was remarkable.
And then the All Stars, after you did your thing,
which was spectacular, the All Stars, the actual ninety nine

(39:53):
All Stars lined up National American League from home played
out to first and third, creating an actual diamond and
actual constellation greatness. And when Ted Williams through the first pitch,
I think it was was it was Tony Gwynn and
Junior brought him out in the wheelchair right and held
him up while he threw to Colton Fisk, I mean,
holy crow. And but they all broke at once. They

(40:15):
all broke it once, and the surrounded him, and there
was this kind of thing that that nobody else should
have walked out there, you know, as they that as
that constellation moved in, you'd be really kind of a
mistake to to step into that. So whatever was said, however,
that feeling was of these guys who carried teams, carried

(40:37):
the day we're baseball, they all surrounded Ted in his
town and it wasn't it was special, it was it
was remarkable. The PA announcer had to tell them to
break it up. He just started the game, that's right.
They basically said, will will everybody clear? The Phil had
to start the game. And then Pedro Martinez struck out
everybody in his sights place went nuts, and then the

(40:58):
rest of the last six innings were were an absolute afterthought.
After the pregame sucked all the oxygen out that Pedro
only breathed life into for nine outs, and then the
rest of it was like whatever, you can't top what
we had just seen for sportsman, I know there's a
football show, but even football fans, even internationally, can appreciate

(41:20):
how the greatness that was going on there that night,
you know, I had another moment like that. They were
closing down. Um, what was this the stadium in Oriel
State Memorial in Baltimore. Yeah, it's some great culture and
there's always this. There's always saying, oh, don't tear the
stadium down, don't you know the nostalgia? And there we go. Now,
this place is hard to plan. I actually played there.
I took infield and hit a hit, a homer off

(41:44):
Ripken's father. He just pitching batting practice and it went out.
I couldn't believe it. That what you opposite field? What
you don't know? I took it over the field. And
but what happened was when um, I had to get
that part in. But that's because that's not even the story.
It's a great post. You know, get it in. You
don't have many you know. So But when they closed

(42:06):
the thing down, they had a ceremony and um, somebody
sent me the film and it was it was devastating.
It was like all the people came to this stands
and um, all of a sudden, the field of dreams
music started playing, boom boom, and that horn started to go,
and all of a sudden, out of the dug it

(42:27):
comes Brooks Robinson, and they don't announce his name. They
don't say number five is right, number five, They don't
say that. All Brooks runs out to third base and
he just starts kicking the dirt. Oh my goodness, and
the music starts to play and he's in and then
Frank you know, runs out Robinson and he just wanders

(42:49):
in the outfield, and Blanger and and and boom pal
and but they never said their names. Somebody was really smart.
They you know, somebody might gotta say their names, and
they didn't. And it was weird how those guys, Davy Johnson,
it just they did. They were in their own thoughts

(43:09):
and they just kicked the dirt and it was a
really beautiful moment. But that's also very Baltimorean thing to
do too, because I mean, Baltimore with its sports teams,
they don't need to have the names said for them, right,
I mean, they're they're very It's the Colts would be
the same way back in the day. You know it's
a bold move and and and a and a very
um it was really appropriate, and it was its stunned.

(43:33):
It's it's the fewer words. It stunned you. Well. Field
of Dreams is definitely something that people feel very personal about.
I'm sure I'm not telling you any tales out of
school here, right. I mean people must come up to you.
It doesn't And if I'm in public, I don't know
what's gonna come out of somebody's mouth about favorite movies.

(43:54):
But that movie comes up a lot. And and also
they don't start off it's my favorite movie. They go
you know, it's almost like they don't even know I'm there.
They just start in on me, like therapy. You know.
I had this problem with my dad and your movie.
I'm like, first, I think I have a problem with that.
What money, what? I don't know, But they just start
right in. It's not like, oh, I'm sorry, It's just

(44:14):
like I had this thing with my dad, and it
is a movie about things gone unset in your life. Uh. Surprising, um,
surprising how that movie has become part of our culture.
You know, I've I've often referred to it as our
generation's wonderful life it is. It is like, that's an

(44:35):
excellent analogy. It is because there's there's something supernatural about it,
but there's also something very visceral in a family sense
about it. A journey is gone through your The main
characters are beyond likable. I mean, you want to get
you know, I wanted to have a beer with with
obviously you Uh and Crash Davis. The characters you play,

(44:58):
you want to have a beer with. So that's why
people to come up to you. And I don't mind
saying this. There aren't many films that make me cry
that one. It's just the last ten minutes of that movie.
I'm an absolute total mess and and and getting ready
for this interview with you. Um, I hadn't seen it
in about three years, so I watched it again on

(45:19):
a flight home, my five year olds next to me,
and and I just flat out lost it because it
was the first time as a father that I watched this.
And and I feel like these people will come up
to you and I'm burning themselves. It really is. So
it's something else. It's hard. It's hard to understand. It's

(45:40):
hard to know how a movie could it's big moment,
could orchestrate it to just somebody said, do you want
to have a catch? And then and you and you,
and you don't realize that that's what you need in
life sometimes is to have a catch. And and this
time honored thing you know of baseball. You know, I

(46:01):
remember with my dad early early, my dad was played
hardball and and and he would go to the bers
dount in Compton, and um we would go to play.
And I was five years old. I just wanted to
be with him. And I would make him. I would
make him put on his cleats so I could hear
it on the cement when we walked through the school
out into the yard. That click, that click, you know.

(46:24):
I remember those red kind of ear helmets, you know.
And and I don't know, I don't know what kids
do nowadays, but I remember putting nails and bats on
electric tape to make them work. I knew I could
never use them in a full fledged game, but man,
we had to make do. We had to make stuff work.
You know. You learned how to place it because you
only had five guys. We only have left field, and

(46:45):
some guy just keeps sitting the right field, like, go, man,
you can't play knock it off. That's bad, said, we
gotta go chase that ball. You kind of learned how
to play in the street. You learned the game, you know,
Um you learned how to run just because why you
just didn't want to be out. You just learned to
be a smarter player in the street. And how many

(47:06):
takes did for you to get that line? Dad? Do
you want to have a catch? Because I mean I
think I I think I got at the first take.
I knew, I knew where we were going. Um, she
had a little catch in your Yeah, yeah, yeah he did.
He did. It's like, it's like it was a lot
of things this movie didn't. I knew it was magic
when I read it. I almost didn't do that movie

(47:28):
because I was doing another movie called Revenge, and Um,
what happened was I just I read this thing and
I thought, wow, this is a beautiful movie. But that
they were going at different times, and I went, wow,
I feel like I've missed something. And then Revenge kept
missing at start day, kept pushing, pushing, pushing, one month
too month. Finally I made it. Call the producer. I said,
you know what, because I gave him a couple of warnings,

(47:50):
I said, you know what I'm gonna do this little
movie with the corn. And the reason I mentioned corn
was simply the director was holding out for me. Phil
was really holding out for me. But he goes, look,
I have to go when the corn is a certain height.
So they had started growing it, and they started growing it,
and finally I got vested with them and I said
I'm I'm I'm not doing that movie. And the guy goes,
I'll sue you, and I said, that's the first thing

(48:11):
out of your mouth, isn't it. It was a rough,
tough guy, this guy. And three or four days we
solved and he goes, Okay, we'll do that. You do
that movie, and three days later you come to me
and do this other movie. And uh. Um. I remember
actually doing an interview with a guy or somebody actually
wrote a review saying yes, and he's that just made

(48:31):
this really awesome, outstanding movie Revenge. Uh and he's made
some other movie that we'll probably dismissed, you know, very quickly.
He actually said that in the in the it was
a very nice article about me, but he said, this
movie will probably just come and go. Don't know why
he went and did it, but the corn was growing
and we had to and we had to go and

(48:52):
and uh it was there was a lot of magic,
you know. Burt Lancaster. Which about to say what was
it like working with Burt Lancaster. Burt was, um, well,
you know he was. He was a tough guy in Hollywood.
You know, he was one of those kind of guys
that scared producers and stuff like that. And that day
had come and gone for him. And now he's he
was kind of frail and stuff. But I remember, you know,

(49:12):
talking to him, and we would sit like this, and
I really liked him. And I said, you know, I
was thinking about the Kentucky and he goes, she saw it,
And I said, what you saw? I said, yeah, there's
this like scene where you run across where you saw it,
you know, with his hands. He just like and I go, yeah,
I said, you want to know how I did that?
I ran backwards. I said, that's how I did time

(49:35):
it because there was a musket and of course they
put the ball and stick in a certain amount of time,
and so I had to make it. He said, So,
I said, the director put a watch out and I
ran backwards. And when you showed me what it was,
and I turned around and I did it the other way.
And I said, did you put plywood under the water

(49:55):
because it looked like you were running on the water,
because you saw that. And he he was, he was
just he he was great, you know, And I said yeah.
And when you fought math out, I said, you know,
he rolls over the whip. He says, you saw that,
you know, And I said, I did see it, because
you know what he was. He was a beautiful man.

(50:17):
He was just so handsome, you know. And I wanted
to get a sword when I saw him swinging and
doing those things. So I've kind of had a cool
career and he was one of the great moments. And
and I'll tell you he was. And his great speech,
wrap your arms around the base, sky so blue. He
just did everything with his hands. He was having trouble

(50:37):
that night. He was having bad trouble. He wasn't going
to get the scene, and even the director felt that,
but we kind of hung in there. We hung in there,
and then they all pro got it one time, and
that was in the movie. He's fantastic. It's a fantastic scene.
And you know, I've got ten minutes left with you.
I want to hit a few other things too. You
worked with Sean Connery and The Untouchables, and he had

(51:00):
some of the greatest lines you and talk about, um
the the Frankly my dear lines and some movies. I
mean he he had, he had many of them with
de Niro as well, say he had many leading ladies. Well,
I mean he's you know, didn't he kind of ruin
it for all of us? I mean when you look

(51:20):
at the screen, you go, well, I guess the coolest
guy in the world's taken that. You know, he he
is easily the biggest star I've ever worked. I think so. Yeah,
It's just that there was just something really special about him.
Such an honorable guy and a tough guy, but and
a wonderful actor. But when you know, when people ask

(51:42):
me the best actor, but it's hard to make a list,
but you know, the biggest star in the world Sean Connor,
And that doesn't diminish how good an actor he was.
When you say biggest star, you're almost kind of it
qualifies it like, well, he wasn't technically a great actor,
was just famous and looked. No, he was a superb actor,
but biggest star and and and probably the actor that

(52:03):
that that it just seemed the most real to me.
And I've worked with some great ones. Hackman, Gene it
just was, you know, wonderful. So I've been lucky on
that deal. I mean, he's an old timer, Gene Hackman. No,
he was, he was. He was great. And that that
seems like it eliminates other people. It doesn't. It's just
for me. Of course, when he was just sitting across

(52:24):
from the guy was just so real. Hoosiers. Is that
is that the what do you think? Where does that
rank for? It's really got to be it's right if
it's If it's not the best movie, then it's in
the top three. It's just so good. You know, I
love Brian Song. You know, I remember Brian Song kind
of tearing me up. It was a television movie, but
it was written really well. And you know, when we
started off this this conversation, it was about what what

(52:47):
is it about sports movies? It's writing. It's like, what
is it about listen to somebody do commentary, you know
or editor. It's writing. It's the link how you link
words with with something that people want to know about
or no about, and then suddenly you put it in
a way that they've never thought about it, and and um,
it's writing, it will always be that. And in uh

(53:09):
sports movie western, nothing for me will ever succeed unless
I think it's literate. And where what film of yours
that we haven't mentioned are you most proud of? I
would imagine Dancy with Wolves won you an Academy Award. Yeah, yeah,
I am. I'm proud of Open Range because you know,
I keep trying to not not bring not bring the

(53:29):
genre back, but I visit it because if I don't,
I don't know how often it's going to be visited.
I love I love the Westerns, but you know I
I have in my life. I've potted things. Okay, I've
put it all out and I've put it all out there,
all my money, and I wasn't bluffing you want to
put all yours out there. I put my house, I

(53:50):
put my entire everything on the line to make movies.
And I'm somehow proud of that. No, I don't know why.
I mean it kind of drives my wife Nuddy. Um.
And I just did it again with a movie called
Black and White. You know, it's a film about racism,
and it couldn't get anybody to make it. And I
thought it was really funny. I thought it was really poignant.

(54:10):
I thought it was really sad. I thought it was powerful.
And to me, that's what qualifies for a movie. It
just does um and you know, so I'm proud of
I'm proud of that, you know, um uh, you know,
you know. I Probably the happiest thing I am is

(54:30):
that when people come up to me and say what
their favorite movie is, that it that it doesn't drill
down to a single movie, that it really starts to
float across the map. You know, it can be Fandango,
it can be Robin, it can be it can be JFK.
You know, it'll it'll in somebody else. Just say Bodyguard
and it will say. You know, I had one moment

(54:52):
I'll tell you. When the first Gulf War, I was
involved with all the Hollywood people who were sing a song.
Everybody seems the same long um. And David Foster, who
put that together, asked me first and gave me credit
for people lining up. I don't know how much I
deserve or not, but gave me a lot of credit
for that. It was a long day. It was at

(55:12):
Warner Brother's lot. It was really long. And now it
was going home. It was you know, it was for
the soldiers. And I was walking to my car and
I had really met everybody, it felt like three times.
And now I'm going to my car and I hear
this Mr. Costner and I just kind of kept walking
and I give autographs, I do it, but this time

(55:33):
I was beat. I was tired, and I just kept
going Mr. Costner, and I thought, I'm far enough away
I could get away with knowing that I didn't. She
didn't hear me, and it was like one last thing
out of her voice, but it wasn't even as strong.
She almost caught herself by thinking, well, I'm not gonna
bother she was Mr. And I stopped and I turned

(55:53):
around and I walked back to her and I said yeah,
and she goes, I want to thank you so much for,
you know, for being here. And I said okay, because
I didn't know what she was gonna As she goes,
you know, my husband's missing an action, all right, a
prisoner of war missing an action. And right away I

(56:14):
went like, oh my god, I'm so glad. I walked back.
She goes, and your movie Dances with Wolves, there's a
moment where you've been captured, and she goes, I don't know,
and your wife stands with his doesn't know she's ever
going to see you again. And there's a moment where
she does see you and she's running down the snow

(56:34):
and you jump off her horse and you come and
you kiss her, and she goes, you fall in the
snow and that kiss you kiss for so long. She goes,
that's all I dream about with my husband. If I
could have that moment with my husband, So thank you,
And I was like, wow. I went home and got

(56:58):
the negative and I cut out the frames of that
moment and send it to her. But um, sometimes you
make that walk back and something changes your life. And
that was a She's all I have a dream about
is rolling in the snow with my Husband's incredible. Yeah,
I'm glad you heard that story. And I don't know
if do you know if she was ever able to

(57:21):
do that, I don't know. I don't know what the
outcome was. I knew what I needed to do, which
was send her those images and I kind of let
it go, you know. But at the moments with me,
the moments with well, um, I'm speaking to somebody who
is part of the NFL. My life is the National
Football League. Seeing you in this film that the NFL again, um,

(57:43):
very rarely puts its markers and marks and logos and
team names and it's commissioner out there. Um. Seeing you
in a sports film about the NFL was just over
the moon. And you were great in it. And you
lend an air of legitimacy to this film just merely
by showing up on the screen. And I just wanted

(58:05):
to tell you that in person. And um, and you know,
I don't know how many times you've seen it at
some point, UM, tell me how I did as myself, Um, Kevin,
because you know I was very Um. I tried to
channel my inner self for the Yeah, my interview. Want

(58:30):
to take a look at you, you know, and if
you obviously any other films that you're putting together, that's right.
If you think that there's something that that I would fit,
I'm I'm available. You want to die in a movie? Yes,
I want to be shot? Please? What's it like to
get shot in the movie? Well, you just can't die
too long? Though, Okay, don't take too long? Now I
followed direction. Have you ever seen this guy say goodbye.

(58:51):
It's a it's a long time. I'm about to do
it quickly. It's just like, what's the lective A shot?
It's just like, um, it's just a great thing. You know.
I die in perfect World, I get shot and and um,
I just you just try to find I don't know
if you ever saw that movie, but how I die
in And I came up with a pretty pretty cool

(59:11):
inventive moment. When he's shot, it just it just literally
bends me over backwards. It just does at the end,
it's a final COUDI gras shot, and it just I'm
forward and then I just go back and I'm just
it just arched back. And so you can kind of
invent that stuff. I mean, you know, Lord knows it's
fun or to kill the guy. Yes, and uh, I

(59:31):
mean most of the time I'm getting the bad guy,
but once in a while I was the bad guy,
and um, and you know, you take your moments. And
the other question I had was your characters in your
movies are known for these epic speeches, monologues, JFK, bullderm etcetera.
Do you have a favorite one or and what's it
like to kind of give one of those well, you
know a lot of writing on them, and uh and

(59:52):
and and and uh draft I have to go for
about nine pages and I'm really dependent on other people
looking and stuff. And uh, it was it was pretty
long when difficult to do. And and the black and
white I do another one what you're talking about. But
what's cool about that one is maybe that's opened the
door for having this terrible conversation that we seem to

(01:00:12):
have so much trouble, which is and it's such a
delicate subject, racism, that it comes out this this character
gives us a window how to talk about it, you know,
because we get nervous and then somebody thinks they're losing
their argument and they pull out whatever you want to
call us, the race card. You know, come on, can
we just lay off that? Can we get to what
we're really talking about? It's delicate and it's real, But

(01:00:35):
in this movie, the window about how to have that
conversation comes to light in a way the same way
that James Old Jones explained baseball to us, in a
way that Mantel couldn't have ever written. Mays couldn't have written,
Williams could you couldn't have written it it took some
kind of non athlete guy James el Jones and elite
us says what baseball meant? And we all we yes, collectively,

(01:01:00):
that is it? That is it? Who whatever equated baseball
with a chalkboard that gets erased, you know what I mean?
And and it fell together beautifully and in black and white.
This guy is a grandfather, he's fighting for his life,
he's drunk, and he lets it hang out and he
opens the door on how we can really have this

(01:01:21):
conversation about race and I you know, and so I'm
really proud of that. And and that's again one of
those kind of speeches you're talking about. You know, I
knew and JFK I had a chance to say something.
And there's a moment in time like standing on the field,
you know, at um, you know, in Boston, going I

(01:01:42):
am the right guy to say this speech. And that's
that's the territorial nature of how I feel when I
see something that's that could stand the test of time. Well,
you're the right guy, Sonny Weaver Jr. In a draft day,
April eleven, in the theater near you, Kevin, thanks for
coming on. This has been a blast. You're welcome anytime
you want to You're in town. You're anytime you want

(01:02:03):
to promote anything, you want, your perfect story. The rest
of this podcast, we won't. We won't do that. Yeah, well, thanks, thanks,
thanks for having me on and letting us talk about
a lot of things. Now, you bet this is this
is again. You're You're. You're surrounded by a great cast
in this film as well, Dennis Leary and Jennifer Garner

(01:02:25):
and Sam Elliott ellen Burston for crying out loud it
was in this film, Rosanne Arquette. The list goes on
and on, and Frank Langella as the owner who I
did one brief scene with and at Draft Day when
when we did shoot that at Radio City Music Hall,
he turned to me and asked me if I wanted
to run through my lines with him, and I gotta
be honest with you, I hadn't seen my lines yet
and I had to be asked my way through a

(01:02:46):
scene with Frank Langella. It was He's formidable. That's a
great word for it. With the glasses too in this film, Kevin,
thanks for coming on. This is Kevin Costner. Go see
Draft Day in theaters near you. April eleven here on
the Rich Eyes and Part Cast. Yeah, that was one
of my favorite interviews that we've done, right there, the
one that just ended, the one that we just did.
I don't know what our Mount Rushmore looks like, but man,

(01:03:08):
well it's got to be more than four right, Yeah,
we're definitely, But I mean that was that was awesome.
When he started talking about the lady from Dances with
Wolves and sending her the gosh, the woman is saying
that right, and then um, he's got a ring from George.
That was that was unbelievable. Did you know that when

(01:03:29):
he said that your eyes the Yankees when and that
he doesn't wear it. It just sits. I wouldn't wear it.
He doesn't even keep it out like publicly displayed in
his house. He said, it's in a it's in a
safe or something way. How to be the how to be?
The the ring because if this movie was made in
ninety nine, what came out made? Right? But maybe no,

(01:03:54):
they did. They won They won sixty so maybe it
was a nine championship ring maybe, but it came out.
It came out in the middle of the ninety nine
season because it was the All Star Game in Boston
and Fenway. That's what you're talking about, right, It was,
and that's where because I remember he he screened it

(01:04:16):
for all the media in in Boston and that's why
he was there for everything. And I mean he put
it all together, So I mean it had to be
you wont Yeah, that's it. And I know you guys
were giving me grief for knowing that off the top
of my head. When your team wins a dred and
twenty five games and loses fifty in a baseball season, okayevable,

(01:04:40):
But how about him? How about that story where he
didn't feel like he was worthy enough to read the
names of the century team? Well, I mean again, just
being there it makes you feel you're immortal. You're a
mere mortal amongst these these baseball immortals. And when your
boy Ted Williams, by the way, wearing a hitter dot

(01:05:03):
Net hat because his son put that on his head
because they were that was the website that they were
selling that he is there without the old English b
on his lid in Fenway, hitter dot net hat, and
I'll never forget he comes out in the golf cart,
Fisk is there and then he gets up out of
the golf cart needs help, And I believe it was

(01:05:25):
Gwyn and Ken Griffey Jr. Who held up each one
of his arms while he steadied himself and through the
first pitch. Holy crap, Holy crap. And then during the game,
during the game, I went up to Fenway Park to
to the suite to interview him during the game for
the ESPN radio broadcast, and the r F signal was

(01:05:46):
not strong enough. Ted Williams, it was cutting in and out.
I've never met the man before, My goodness, gracious, incredible.
But I did get to spend a half an inning
with him while getting ready for the interview that he
was sort of wondering, are we're gonna do this or not?
You know, I don't. I don't remember much other than
just being so upset that the there were so many

(01:06:09):
signals going around Fenway Park that the microphone was cutting
in and out. Frequency coordination awful, you know. So the
couple on a night that was that was incredible. And
but so just to wrap up the point, it's just like, yeah,
even someone like Kevin Costs like should I be doing this?
But then when he said I know, I was like

(01:06:31):
when he said he had that moment of realization where
he realized he was the guy guys when when he
stood at at the at the he was on the
pictures mound and whatever. The first preamble was to introduce
the team, and he goes, ladies and gentlemen, here's the
All Century team. And they didn't run out from the
dugout one by one. They all came out of the

(01:06:53):
garage in center field in Fenway Park like it was
the corn in Field of Dreams. They all like like
a mosh pit, all walked out and then found their
spots on the diamond that they were in a close
proximity to, you know, like so Brooks Robinson went to
third base and other third basemen around him and and

(01:07:14):
I mean, come on, it was incredible. And when that happened,
I'm like this, he's perfect for this. And he read
it and he nailed it. And how about how about
the story with Field of Dreams about making it? And
he was committed to another film, and the director of
Field of Dreams essentially calls him up and says, it's
go or no go time, because we planted the corn

(01:07:35):
and it's a certain height. It's got to be at
a certain height, otherwise we can't shoot these scenes, so
it's going like the crops. We're telling him it was
go or no go time. What a great story that was,
and his Lancaster stories. I was great, great like that.

(01:07:57):
I thought. What also was interesting how when he was
talking draft day, how the marks and logos are are
important because it takes you out of it. But he
also said you can tell when someone's faking it when
he was talking about Field of Dreams and throwing the
ball because I mean House of Cards right now, and
the first pitch was a space He's never throwing a ball, never,
and it takes you out of it right away, where
you're just like he can't even get the form of

(01:08:20):
the pitch. And I love his acting. He's amazing. But man,
that was just the politicians. Most of them can't throw anyway,
except for George w Yeah. I was there that night too, Yes, sir,
I covered. That was the last world series I covered
for ESPN. For a moment, I don't know, that's not true.
The second to last, the two thousand one one was

(01:08:40):
that the second The last one was The Angels and
the and the Giants, which was also interesting for me
too because I was engaged to Susie and she was
covering that for Fox Sportsnet. She's the Angels reporter for
Fox six. Right, so we were covering a World Series together. Yeah,
as future husband and wife, which was pretty cool. But

(01:09:00):
so yeah, I was there that night where and and
I'll tell you what I mean. That was Game three
the Bronx New York two thousand one, and the helicopters
were all over the places, on the roof everybody. And
then but they kept the six train kept running behind
the stadium, and you'd see that training You're thinking yourself,

(01:09:22):
how are they? I mean, just the worst scenarios are
going through your head. And it was an out of
body experience to be in that stadium that night. And
when George Bush came out and through a strike and
then you found out he was wearing a kevlar vest
underneath and he still pegged it from the mountain in

(01:09:45):
the Texas Rangers. He can spin it. Yeah, how many
owners in the league can go ahead and spin it? Well,
you know who can't. Kevin Spacey cannot, You're correct, But
that that just drove it home to me when he
said that, And then I was at that part of
house of cars. It's great fun interview guys, Kevin Coster.

(01:10:07):
Go see it. It's April eleventh, this Thursday, to theater
near you. Draft they please see it. It's fun and
all you football fans out there'll it'll let your appetite
for the draft, which again is two weeks later this year.
I mean when when they recreate the draft and have rong.
I mean because again, as we talked about it last
week with Ivan Reitman, they had the commissioner on Saturday

(01:10:30):
of the NFL Draft weekend. They had the commissioner come
like three hours earlier than he normally would have. Remember,
the draft starts at noon on a Saturday, so the
commissioner was there. I believe he was there for anyway.
He has a usually has a town hall on the
stage of Radio City Music called with selected fans who
were basically waiting for tickets on on Thursday night. On

(01:10:52):
the Wednesday night before the draft, they just randomly select
fans or it's a contest and say listen, you come
in on Saturday and have a town hall with the commissioners.
He was there anyway. Once the town hall is over,
they put him back on the suit from Thursday night,
and he read off the names of the players who
are going to get drafted and draft data movie, and

(01:11:13):
they change the logos behind him to read two thousand
fourteen NFL Draft because you know when last year was
two thousand and so it they now it feels like
an NFL draft. It looks like it feels like it.
And then every time you're seeing a television set up right,
I thought, either either are broadcast or the ESPN broadcast
is on a television in the background almost all the time.

(01:11:35):
When Ivan Ran said, ray Lewis walked by, you want
to be in the movie? Sure, it's great, It's great,
it really is. It's so much fun. It's fun. It's fun.
So that's April eleven theater near you. Okay, what do
we have, Chris Law You've got opens correct? You know
these are we We listened to ten last week and

(01:11:57):
you have selected three from those ten that we we
have we enjoyed more than than the most correct Yeah,
based on your guys reactions to them. Okay, so now
go ahead. How many do we have to listen to us?
A lot? Okay, Well, this is great. And being on
vacation as I was the past years, I haven't gotten
to listen to all these, so we'll kind of you know,
if that's what happens when you're too busy trolling to judge,

(01:12:21):
I can't get enough of that. You're gonna go after
Judd Hirsh next, anybody named Judd oh Man, jud Buler,
Judd Buschler, all the Judds. Look out, should we google
that famous Judd's famous judge because law is coming for you?
See who comes up? I'm not I'm not living this
one anytime soon because they're chance Naomi, she's so, I

(01:12:44):
think the mother famous people named Judd. Here we go.
What do you got other people for Chris Lauda to troll?
What do you got Judd Nelson? Of course, Judd Apatow
jud and pretty much. I don't think he controlled Judd
apat He's sort of he's sort of trollable. Judd Gregg
is a politician. That's all we got, all right, So

(01:13:06):
this first one is actually a re submit from last week.
He took some of our criticism and uh clean some stuff.
Critique or critique or critique. Yeah, we should say that, Yes,
this is um Hurts are our guy who I thought
was international but apparently he's from uh he's from Boston
and he's a big, big page. It's a large international
community there, right, so here we go. He he cleared

(01:13:28):
up the stone Street backstory and got rid of pleased
to have on the Rich Eyes and Super Bowl special
from New York City, Jerry Seinfeld. One time I saw
my daughter watching an episode. I said, are you watching
this as you like the show? Your dad is right,
and she said, I don't know. Colin Hacks. Good to

(01:13:51):
see you, sir, DM Harbaugh, step dad. He's taught me,
hey man, what's up? What you do done? Messens to
think about what happily staff back on the Rich Eyes
and podcast, the Emmy Award winning actor Eric stone Street
brown Man that had a sign out in front of
the Browns organization that said thanks for the fifteen years
of you know, Craftyns or whatever the sign said, and

(01:14:13):
they kicked him over to the other side of the street.
And I read the comments under it said, well, at
least by kicking him over to the other side of
the street, game ten yards hell every one. That is
a good story. You needed the context there. That is
a funny line. Okay, I like that one. Do you

(01:14:34):
like that one? Okay, and I'm refreshing here on my email. Okay.
This one comes from our neighbors to the north, up
in Vancouver, British Columbia. Beautiful place. It's from Scott Roberts
and his theme is the Comedians. Okay, theme to it. Okay,
here we go. We like it. From New York City,
the man himself, Gary Seinfeld. You have a favorite giant

(01:14:56):
that you've grown up watching, Jealousy, Spider Law, carw You're
going really old school on Jason and Randy Sklar, Ann
Wilson of Heart going into yeast mode. Just seeing that
planet the Pope has lent. He goes into priest mode.
I'm telling everything should be the most you know, say

(01:15:17):
you want to watch twelve episodes of Fawlty Towers, You'll
go into police moode. You might have to please to
have back. On The Rich Eyes and Podcast, Dennis Millery,
there's a vast deference between Peter and Muff late six
Rain Wilson here on The Rich Eyes and Podcast, and

(01:15:37):
the crowd goes, is that is that the twelfth Man?
Is that the twelth man impersonation? Your ears literally bleed.
They should hand out ear tampons. That's not a bad idea. Okay,
I like that one. That's a good one. Huh. It's lengthy,
little lengthy. Yeah, it actually chunky. It came into just
a little over a minute, so okay bad. We had

(01:16:00):
four people in their three for hurts. I liked it.
That was That was Scott roberts Is. That's good. I
like that. I could live with that one, by the way. Okay, okay.
This one comes from at j E x R E
F F Y JEX for fee. His name is Jeffrey. Okay,
here we go, Hello everyone, and thanks for joining us.
I'm Richard Odson. I have to have Seinfeld in this

(01:16:22):
open your cohort Larry David has been off. But do
you think he could actually pull that off? He would say,
I think you should throw a bomb here. I don't
think he can get much better. That's it. Pat McAfee
of the Indianapolis Culture. Let's talk about this car you
rolled up in today, Bright Candy Apple red convertible for
Vett convertible, cord drop down. I don't know how to

(01:16:43):
put the top down. Rich Rain Wilson here, what can
we promote about this? What can we do about this? Nothing.
There's nothing you can do. We don't need your help.
We're doing fine. That is response to anything I've ever
attempted to promote mr Site survey meeting. Chris law you

(01:17:05):
have a meeting, tell me the meeting. I want the meeting.
I want all of that information right now. No such surveys.
They personally tell Mark Brady to stop email. Are you
that's what it takes. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
It's pretty good. Pretty good. My only drawback is the

(01:17:27):
sign I love it like using me saying I gotta
have Seinfeld in the open. I didn't like, Yeah, Larry David, Yeah,
because it needs more set up and these are all
the intricacies that go into making it open. It's not easy.
It's not easy. I gotta provide context. It's gonna be quick,
it's gonna be it's gonna move. Next one. That montage

(01:17:50):
at the end, though, was pretty funny. That's well done,
all right. I'm like, there's already a better crop than
last week? Am I wrong? Okay? No, you're not wrong.
Sometimes you gotta lay down the Gartland Okay. This next
one comes in from West Mulling in England, UK and
International Open at Richard Dowling nine at Richard Dling kN Okay,

(01:18:14):
we go. We used to have on the Rich Eyes
and Super Bowl Special from New York City. The man
himself in this town. He is Jerry Seinfeld. Good to
see you. Do you ever watch you ever? Just there
on all the times. One time I saw my daughter
watching an episode, I said, are you watching this because
you liked the show just because your dad is time?
And she said, I don't know. Pleased to have back

(01:18:39):
on the Rich Eyes and podcast. Joel McHale, how are you, Joe?
I am I'm alogetic because I would both be in
video and I'm not. I'm in my car, I'm going
to the rich Eyes in uh. Rich eysn't worked here right? Okay?
Thank you. Dick Castello of Twitter. Good to see Dick.
Thanks for having me here. Have you closed your outlook? Please?

(01:19:02):
This is what would help me? Okay, okay, as I
would love a sarcasm fun hell everyone, and thanks for
joining us A little different. Yeah with Dick Costello of Twitter,
then I think he threw in it's sort of an
out of context right well on the music bed. The

(01:19:25):
music bed gets an email and so it's in there.
So I think you guys didn't run the music again
just one more time. I understand that you when you're taping,
you want to live the funny moment, to keep the
funny moment in it. Almost How are you not roll
the music bed one more time? Were you? Are you
going to be able to remove it when we choose
one of these opens, You're not going to be able

(01:19:47):
to such a part of the show. People will just
get Okay, all right, I'm not gonna get caught up
in it. Let's keep going. Let's keep moving on. Thank
you for for that one, Richard from the UK, I
like it. Next one, okay, this one comes. It's another
update from Patton Syracuse at Peacock's and he added Seinfeld
in at your request, now, Brockman, just because he's from Syracuse.

(01:20:10):
All right, let's be gonna have to remove the emotion
from it. I'm gonna rena objective. That's an incredible honor.
I'm marking it down on my calendar as day of
my life, so it's your birthday like it was turned
in Holiday's birthday that but let's say this would be
a little holiday in my life. Being on the Rich
Eyes and Podcast You're just You're just a pat. Dennis
Miller returning to the program. What does Thanksgiving look like

(01:20:32):
in the in the Dennis Miller Household, Well, we have
tur Duck and Tea, which is a Kurtney inside a
duck inside a chicken inside New Jersey Governor Chris Christy
lovely and talented and the White Guess. Emmy Award winning
actor Eric stone Street returns to the program. You know
what I love about having any read as as as
the head coach of kids, Titty two days that I

(01:20:53):
have an all time Halloween tusted the man himself, Jerry Seinfeld.
My youngest is a handsome friends over they were trying
to explain to him what I do. I said, just
imagine your job. Is you going to class and you
stand up in front of the kids and you make
a fart sound and everybody gives you that's good. That

(01:21:15):
crisp open. I like the opens where I don't have
the Some people are putting the full introduction and you
all you gotta just hear is the name right? I
like that? That was Crisp And he got five in there,
which was huge. That was Crisp. You know is that
number one that you've heard. Um, I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna go there yet, but it's interesting how many

(01:21:37):
people like McAfee. Oh no, he was, And I mean
we have had some serious celebrities on here saying some
seriously funny things and some funny moments involving some famous people.
I'm not saying Pat's not. I mean we all know
that punters are people too in there in these parts.
People love themselves, and Pat McAfee, that little Pittsburgh Joy's

(01:21:58):
got adds a little. I mean that Corvette story, though,
it's pretty amazing. What a dope. I couldn't find it rich. Alright,
this one is uh from Jonathan Raisington. He goes by
g B. All right, j B, here we go, j B. Submission.
I'm enjoying this. Keep going. He is now sitting here
in studio weeks later. Fince Gilligan, good to see you.

(01:22:22):
How are you? Did I frighten to you? Did Did
I did? I? Did I called you to want a
restraining order from me on the spot? No? Not at all,
it was. It was. It's just very very flattering all
the same to me. I like them all. Um. One
time I saw my daughter watching an episode I said,
are you watching this because you like the show because

(01:22:42):
your dad is on it? Right? And she said, I
don't know. My dad and I do this thing when
we watch football together. Whenever they cut to the coach,
we talk about what kind of stepfather that head coach is.
But Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll, he's the kind of step

(01:23:04):
dad you dream about. He's the kind of step that's like,
hey man, you want to borrow the car. He's a
kind of He's a kind of guy let's say you
were like eight years old. He's a kind of step
out the be like I want to watch a movie
with some titties. I'm gonna I'm gonna pot that one down.

(01:23:25):
So we're sorry. J B. That's it's lengthy. Um. I
mean you could have shortened that. Colin story would have
been great. By the way, Colin Hanks returns to this show.
I believe next week he's going to come on the
premiere to promote Fargo. He's in New York this week
to promote it. That she looks great and it does.

(01:23:48):
I mean those promos nail it right. And even the
sitting with that guy, and well, he's sitting with many
guys in these promos, but this is a serious cast.
He talked to us about He talked to us about
this um after wild Card week when we had him

(01:24:08):
and Jeff Schaeffer in studio together, they predicted the that
they would each then win their divisional rounds to create
the NFC championship matchup. That was a really fun show.
That was because they there times kind of overlapped a
little done together for twenty minutes and it worked out.
And I keep forgetting that Jeff Schaeffer knows everybody in
this town. He's worked with everybody or or everyone this

(01:24:30):
town has been on the league. Yeah, they've gotten Hey, listen,
holy crap. If you guys get cameos in that show,
then everybody in this town gets cameos in that show.
All right, A right that Colin Hacks is gonna come
back on this show, and Marlon Wayne's is next week too. Yes,
he's got a new Hunted house to coming out. Let's
roll alright, This one comes in from Roger Rousseau. I

(01:24:53):
hope everybody's enjoying this as much as we are. As
we're hearing the same stories over and over again. I
guess from these a lot of people are choosing the
sign Felton, is that the Is that the funniest part
of that interview. That's how I ended the television program.
I thought that was a great about the daughter, just
the way he says, I don't know, I don't know. Alright,
This one's Roger. Here we go, There you go, Roger

(01:25:18):
as in the Goods Goodell, The Goods Goodell. He used
to be joined by the cast of Anchor Band too.
The shield cannot touch the ground. Look at this, this
place is literally what the gather reel with clothes. Ben
were the Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers number one.

(01:25:41):
Good to see Killy and Jacob back on the Ridge
Eyes and podcast The Broken Penis. I'd be more. He
is Jerry, my youngest is eight handsome friends over this
weekend and they were trying to explain to him what
I do. And I said, just imagine you're a job.
Is you going to class and you stand up in

(01:26:03):
front of the kids and you make a fart sound
and everybody gives you a quarter. Tell me the meeting,
Tell me the meeting. Tell me the meeting. I want
the meeting. I want the meeting, and I want the location,
and I want the time duration of the meeting. I
want all of that information right now. Hell everyone, and
thanks for joining. I like it. I like that one

(01:26:24):
that was the first one on dis batchelor An anchor, man,
I know, yeah, we haven't had my and and Gillian. Yeah,
well that's one story that taken out of context. She's
referring to Johnny Knoxville. I mean, you got I mean,
you gotta get a little context to that, or at
least throw Johnny Knoxville in there after. But there's basically
two Seinfeld stories that we've heard over and over again

(01:26:44):
involving his children. And it's great because I mean, he
was in They're funny stories because here he is trying
to explain what he does to two kids, right, and
he boils its downs to that you make a fart
story and you get a quarter, okay. And the other
one is just like a man who is so not
as is he points out introspective about his career, right,

(01:27:08):
I mean, he's he's an incredible tactician when it comes
to comedy and breaks it down to the nth degree.
He is he operates on a higher level than most
human beings, right, But in terms of like wondering what
makes Seinfeld tick? Right, that's against the whole concept of

(01:27:28):
the show Seinfeld. You don't get deep into what makes
a tick. There's what do they say? There was no
hugging on Seinfeld? Right, there's no hugging on Seinfeld. And
so here he is taking even a split moment a
man who doesn't even watch Seinfeld himself anymore, to be
inquisitive as to why the daughter would be interested in

(01:27:50):
the program. Do you like the show because it's good?
Because you're just just a slight bit of inquisitiveness about it,
which is out of character? Right, I don't know, and
the I don't know he gets no insight. I love
that story. He winds up getting no insight whatsoever, which
is the point of why he's like, why were we

(01:28:11):
even wondering about it? Oh? Man? I love? And then
that's maybe that's why people are choosing to show about nothing,
the point about nothing? All right? Next one, Alright, this
one comes from Daniel Chung at Daniel K. Young, big
time Packers fan. Okay, here we go, Daniel Chung, how
many more do we have to go? Here? We got
a few, We got a few. Okay, let's keep going right.
I like it, and they get they start to get

(01:28:31):
a little different. I haven't listened to Oh there's a
few I haven't, but I've listened to all these ones
so far. Pleased to have back on the rich Eyes
and Podcast. Joel McHale, How are you, Joel? I will
remain blue until I am going to the rich guy. Then, uh,
chidesn't work here right Uh? Long time Sports Center anchored

(01:28:52):
the magical Van Pissel got Jim. They're the the're the
that's the rob right there, all Richie, the Giants get going.
Come on, NFC East is garbage because Gillius Jacob's back
on the rich On Podcast. I have evolved. I might

(01:29:13):
not even know you are anymore. I know, I know
I've lost a lot more football guys. Jerry Steinfeld football.
There's a lot of people running all around, but they
but they crash into each other. Yeah, that's the only
part we get. Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers, Houston oilers number one. Okay,

(01:29:39):
I like that one different sound bites, a different different
devoter s vps in there. We gotta get Scott back on, dude.
He was great. Absolutely. That's when, by the way, one
of our most downloaded shows. I gotta tell him that
it is. Anytime we get the old, your old ESPN colleagues,
and people love that. It's always good s VP, the
Magical Van P Easy magic, and I love I forgot.

(01:30:01):
Gillian called the red Zone the red box. She boils
things down her exactly. I don't call him down, to
call him chances. And you know what the red zone
channel is. It's boxes red with red. Yes, it is

(01:30:21):
the red box channel. It is definitely is. She boils
things down to a very very interesting levels. Next level rich,
Next one. Okay, this one gets a little different chat.
This is from Chad in Washington. He's a forty Niners fan.
Says he's an enemy territory and uh he said he

(01:30:42):
didn't want to use celebrities for it. He thinks listeners
like hearing are back and forth. Okay, this one is
a little bit of a different one. All right, I
like it. Okay, let's listen to what Chad uh in
Washington came up with. Good to see you, Chris Law.
Don't defend it, just read the tweet. Let's just put
it this way. Trappist monks would not tweet about parting

(01:31:05):
on a plane. He said he's going. He got his tickets. Look,
he got his tickets. This is the Penn State game
in Ireland next, and he tweets out here come I
need to go that the seams Elise or is Chris
might call it the champ Selessie. Good to see you,
Chris Brockman. Why are you guys giving me a hard
time about this because you're winging it well, this whole

(01:31:28):
show is winging up. Chris Brockman asked Michael Crabtree if
he was going to ask to see his Super Bowl
ring of aunt Kwam Bolden and Jerry Rice is laughing.
But the name of the bottle of one, the label
was Minaji, which was incredible. He pops the bottle of

(01:31:50):
one on the table between my wife and mother in law.
In fact, I'm Richard ods. That was amazing. That's incredible.
One was good. Wasn't that good? Different? I'm not gonna lie.
I love it well because it's about us. Of course.
I just like the different approach too. We are idiots

(01:32:12):
because you're wi the whole show and there's some stuff
that I definitely forgot. We are total it is Chad,
well done. Wow, Chad in Washington if we use that.
Here's here's here's here's what I'm gonna say, Sayna say,
we don't need a show. End this stuff. As goes

(01:32:33):
on like two hours, people just probably their ears are
falling off. Here's what I'm gonna do. Chad is in
the mix regardless where. Every now and then we'll throw
that one in at the top. The only thing we
gotta do is can we clean up a little bit
the edits? Can we clean up? Can we? I don't
know how he put it together, but you heard a
little you heard some pops in between. I'll get a

(01:32:56):
chat on that and if he emails me his file
and we gotta we gotta, we got to break it
up with with like um because sometimes you don't know, no, no,
we just don't know when one story is ending in
one's beginning, because it's you know, it's all our voices.
Whereas each one of these celebrity moments, you hear, well
you can the name the name is the is the

(01:33:16):
interstition down a little bit and audio dissolved like it's
easy clean up? Can you clean that up? That's an
easy clean Chad's in because he went he went in
a different direction. I like it, and it's about us,
it's about He's in there, He's in there. Okay, this one,

(01:33:37):
he's well done, Chad. That was fun. That was when
I heard that one. Yeah, but we're we're the best kind,
though I would I take it too seriously. Okay, okay,
this one comes from Chris Fry, who coincidentally, I have
a good friend named Chris Fry. But this is not him.

(01:33:58):
Um and he says, go Hawks. He's a CEE. Okay, great,
and we have to download this one that does not
play instantaneous. Oh no, Jerry Steinfeld, good to see you.
So it's the New York super Bowl. It's where in
New York City, but the game itself is in New Jersey.

(01:34:19):
The team's play in New Jersey. Jerry, that's the no
one cares no. Colin Hanks, good to see you, sir.
Pete Carroll. He's the kind of Stepdad you dream about.
He's the kind of step that's like, hey man, we'll
watch a movie with the cities in it. Will Ferrell,
Steve Carrell, Dave Keeckner, I'll run. Could you write a

(01:34:41):
comedy skit for Bill Belichick? This is it's great to
be here in New York. We've got a great showing.
Guess sound guard Bruce Dern, Jack young Blood, you need
to write a book. I did right, I wrote when
it was six years ago. Where were you, Brick? Why
didn't you buy it? Adam Carro like here in studio,
guys have lower back pain. I have upper sack. And

(01:35:06):
that's because guys and go. That might be a new includes.
It was quick. Chick breezed through Anchorman too, and Seinfeld,
the Colin Hanks with the peak story, Bruce Dern, Bruce
Dern with the lot and then he just added in
from last week with Corolla. Really good and it was

(01:35:31):
a different Seinfeld line and a different Anchorman A little blue.
You don't have a problem with that. I didn't think
it was that. Only the sound, dude, the words and
titties prick and sack and sack. That's the triple play.
Titti's prick sack by the way, great album back of
the seventies. But the Anchorman quote with the Belichick senturday
I live and so many that is we haven't heard

(01:35:53):
this sound. That was one of my favorite moments. That music.
That's good. That was good. That was good. It's blue.
It is blue. Maybe we bleep. I can I can
throw a bleep in on one of those bleep when
you bleep, prick you can't. You can't. Bruce Dern Maybe
maybe Colin Hanks, he's an old man. Maybe the Colin

(01:36:17):
Hanks one. It's good though, good job, Chris. One beep
in there would make it fine. We don't have well again,
the upper sack. You don't have to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's what I mean. Bleep pitties, I guess. Since although
it's not the show open where children might be listen
in the back of a car mom or dad wants

(01:36:40):
to pass some time right in the drive through or something,
let's go on the podcast. So this one, wait a minute,
I do like that one. I like that one a
lot two in a row. Guys back to it gets strong.
I like it. So this one comes from Tyler. He says,
I've never done anything like this before, no editing. I
hope I can hang with some of the as we

(01:37:02):
liked Tyler, we liked the Moxie bring it. Yes, it's
Tyler at Tyler in Missouri, Okay, and so good to
see Gillian Jacobs back on the Rich Eysen Podcast. I've
got heated. Actually, I forgot that they were rolling. I
was not in the scene that they were shooting. I
was actually hushed for the first time in the history
of community because I was yelling about passenger of parents

(01:37:25):
while there was just another Joel was doing probably fancy
Astroll was doing a scene, so that made me happy
to ruin a take for him. Joel McHale, how are you, Joel?
I am apologetic because I'm both to be in studio
and I'm not. I'm in my car and yeah, what Dick,

(01:37:46):
I am Colin X. Good to see you, sir. My
dad and I do this thing when we watched football together,
whenever they cut to the coach, we talked about what
kind of stepfather that head coach is. Mike Shanahan is
the father as the stepfather just calls your turn, he is,
Jerry Seinfeld, good to see you. The football, Uh was

(01:38:09):
just the excuse for owners to her owners to go
to a warm place and patronize promptitudes. I didn't know
that the history of this game, Well, Jerry, this is
don think this is groundbro. You really think that people
went to New Orleans for the music? The courtet pot

(01:38:29):
it down there for a minute fifteen and this one
goes on for two oh boys. But that was well
done Tyler. He's never done that before. Huh, that's the
first time he's ever done anything like that. The good effort.
That's very impressive. I had forgotten about that Gillian story.
She interrupts talking about pass interference. That's funny. We got

(01:38:50):
to get her back onto That's why I'm enjoying this too,
is listening to just yeah, kind of going back through that.
It's like this is sort of like a de facto
like your right, It's like the best of ye, which
which Costner's part of Now, yeah, that is very true,
especially since what else are we gonna do here? Seriously,
We're we are killing time actually him now in the

(01:39:13):
draft because I mean, how again, how many times are
we gonna talk about who's visiting who? Who's visiting? Who
means nothing about Listen. Mike Shanahan, the third stepfather, drafted
Jay Cutler without seeing him. They didn't visit him, they

(01:39:34):
didn't have him, they didn't have him come in, they
didn't work him out, drafted him to Denver, and the
domino effect that has happened since that drafting. Who is,
by the way from that draft, far and away the
best quarterback in the first round. That was the Finch
Young Year, the line of year. I think those those six,

(01:39:59):
it was those six Because is our first year doing
Thursday Night football. Our first game was Thanksgiving Night Alex
Smith Denver at Kansas City. We're in Kansas City, We're
at Arrowhead and I've told this story before on this podcast.
Pat Bowen comes up to me in the in the
parking lot where our trailer was first Thursday night football

(01:40:24):
game ever, and he comes up to means, is where's
Adam Schefter? Because Schefter is breaking the story that this
start on Thursday Night football, Thanksgiving Night, first game ever
in the history of NFL network was gonna be Jake
Plummer's last start, regardless of how he was going to perform.

(01:40:45):
Jay Cutler was going to start the next game. Schefter
covered the Broncos before. Yes, and that's why everybody any
anything he said about Shanahan was gospel because he wrote
a book with him. Jake had t d Terrell Davis.
We hired him from the Denver Post here at this
network or a Rocky Mountain News. He worked for both,

(01:41:05):
and I don't know one of them no longer and
he's he gets a shout out in draft day after Yeah,
except for the after a trade gets pulled, somebody comes up,
the the the the intern who's answering Kevin Coster's phone, said,
Adam Schefter just called that intern. Was really funny. But

(01:41:27):
I mean I mean that. I mean Schefter's got that's it.
You got it made. When your name is now synonymous
with being the guy who's calling to find out about
a trade that no one else knows about any rate,
that that is why who visits who? Now? To me?
I mean we could talk about it. We could sit

(01:41:49):
here and say, why are why is Manzel and boards Patriots? Yes,
why do they have a problem with Tom Brady? Are
they drafting now? I mean, Bryan Mallett's been there for years,
he knows their system. Clearly, he's the heir apparent. We
could sit here and wring our hands, but you know
what Belichick is probably doing kicking the tires on these
kids when he can, because if they're gonna be drafted

(01:42:11):
by another team, they're gonna play again. Let's say Jacksonville
gets Manzel, certainly's gonna in our mock draft I'll tell
you that right now. Right let's say Cleveland gets one
of these three kids. Let's say Oakland gets one of
these three kids. You know, those teams are gonna wind
up on the Patriots schedule just by a rotational basis.

(01:42:32):
You're gonna see him at least once over the next
three years. When is Bill Belichick ever gonna be able
to get his hands look see flat out private workout
on these kids when now this's the only time, and
what if one of these guys falls, It's it's not
unconceivable to think that these guys could have an Aaron
Rodgers Brady Quinn type slip in the first round. That

(01:42:53):
would be we're both eyebrow raising over that one. But
just saying, you are just saying, but that's why I'm
That's why I'm saying. Right now, we could sit here
and talk about all this stuff, which we are, I
guess right now. By the way, Jake Cutler, the eleventh
overall pick in two thousand and six, behind Vince Young,
went third and Matt Liner went learning right, and who

(01:43:15):
else would any other quarterbacks taken? Now? Nobody comes close?
Not in the first round, second round was Kellen Clemens
who was there at the draft day premier. Yes he was,
because he's now the backup in San Diego and his
second round and his agent, David Dunn appears in draft
Charlie Whitehurst in the third round, Troyle in the third round.
Have we have we hit any quarterback of note yet?

(01:43:38):
Brad Smith in the fourth round, a wide receiver running
back now man uh Ingle Martin and the fifth round
everybody to the Packers. But wasn't that the person who
wrote um little house in the prairie? My my bad?

(01:43:58):
I was confused? Acubs in the fifth round of the
Steelers two thousand six draft of quarterbacks. Can't wait for
the Cutler to Reggie McNeil Cincinnati Bengals one in the
sixth round stands out amongst this entire group. And DJ
Shockley in the seventh round of the Falcons, drafted by
a guy who didn't work him out, my co star

(01:44:18):
rich Jay Cutler and a domino effect from him being
drafted in Denver and what happened with him and McDaniels
and bringing in Tebow on all of that craziness that
led to eventually McDaniel's oustair and Fox's arrival with John Elway,

(01:44:39):
Peyton Manning shows up. Come the dominoes that tumble in
this draft, in this world, in this league. How many
more opens do we have to go for crom We can,
we can. We can save something for next week too.
We can play this one more week. I can do
uh three more now, and then we can save all
then filter some more out and because we gotta we

(01:45:02):
got a good amount of submission. Well, here's what we're
gonna do. Here's what I'm going to have. Three or
four from this list. Chad from Washington is in, Chris
Fry is in. Right, um, the comedians one I thought
was good too. Yeah, Sience was at Seinfeldt, Skar Brothers,

(01:45:25):
Dennis Miller, Rayan Wilson. That's Scott from Vancouver. All right,
you like that one he's in, He's in nothing else
really hit me, really lit the lamp. No, I mean
they we're all interesting and good. Those are three. Let's
play three more and if you haven't heard yours, we're
gonna give you one more week and we're gonna open

(01:45:47):
the show next week with one of these. Yes by
random that sounds good, okay, okay. This one is from
Isaac Tale and he's at I T E L E
I AI on Twitter, Here we go and three two

(01:46:07):
David Keckner, Steve Curl, good to see, Thank you, Paul right.
It was similar to a fruit roll up. If you
don't make it, don't make a great thing. That's one
of those famous NFL films moments. I think here for
it too that they caught that moment. I told the God,
don't make it great. Don't be afraid to laugh people.
This place is literally put the gall reel with closed

(01:46:29):
pins's closed pins for it's really even being film. Rich Rich,
do you have any idea? Jerry sign Felt on the
Rich Eyes and Super Bowl Special. One time I saw
my daughter watching an episode. I said, are you watching
this because you like the show because your dad is
on it? Right? And she said, I don't know? Three

(01:46:52):
D people still and I said, just a match in
your job is you're going to class and you stand
up in front of the kids and you make a
fart sound and everybody gives you a quarter. There we go.
That was so he just he said those were his
two favorites. So he just included the two. Um that

(01:47:17):
was Isaac all right and next one is from Sorry
we got a couple back to back. Do you know
what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna cut it off, cut
it off. I'm already, I'm already. My mind is sort
of numb. We've played a ton rose from him down.

(01:47:39):
When you're not skiing and trolling a judge on Twitter,
take the time this week to narrow down. And next
week we've got Marlon Wayne's and potentially Colin Hanks on
the show. We'll have some fun. Let's wrap this up
with a story from Monday's Red Cross uh, the the
first ever celebrity golf classic to port the Los Angeles

(01:48:01):
Chapter of the American Red Cross that I was honored
to m c and host. Fantastic, beautiful lakeside, phenomenal, remarkable
course of course in um to look a lake California
to look like? Is that beautiful about ge oh Man?

(01:48:23):
What a day it was. And we were on the
team together. We did me and you two knuckleheads, Thanks
for hooking that up. The great wondrous Dr Bobby Cats
Dr Bobby here in this town one of the greatest
human beings I've I've met. And I'm not just saying
that because he was the man who first laid hands
on all three of my children three delivered all three

(01:48:48):
and uh and his buddy, Uh, he was he was
a buddy. It was our five soome going through. It
was a fun day. After which we're all sitting around
getting ready for the post tournament ceremony, and who strolls up?
Hostess and who strolls up? Sits down at the table

(01:49:10):
next to Dr Peter Waltstein, who is the man who
takes care of of of many children in this town.
Is one of the greatest pediatricians this town will will
ever see. And he's got a heart of gold. And
he helped put this tournament together as well with one
of the minority owners of the Steelers, the Paul family,

(01:49:30):
which is very active in this town because there's a
large NFL contingent or a field to that tournament. Anyway,
we're sitting at this table. Who sits down, but Joe,
Joe Pesci sits down, And the thing is is that
we're looking around like, while you admit you wouldn't have

(01:49:50):
really recognized him, I wasn't. He wouldn't as soon as
he strolled up, I know who she isn't just just
seeing casual walk bar wouldn't have like right, and so
Rich kind of hits me on the knee and goes,
what more can I do for you? The doctor called
him over. He goes, Joe, Joey, come here. Joey called
He's called him Joey and getting them Joe Joe is
what he called Joe. Yeah, that was it? Actually, sorry,

(01:50:13):
and Brockman and I look at each other and we
just we're just like Joe Pesci sitting four away, martini
in hand, three dollars, three dollars in it and uh
and by the way, pretty much just like his movie characters.
He's he's, so, now, what happened? What was your your
personal interaction with the map? So we're kind of looking

(01:50:34):
at it like we look at each other and we're
just like Brockman and Eye were like, what are we doing?
Because I come back from from the stage once it's
all over, after talking to the people who are putting
the event on with the Red Gross and and UM
and Steve DeMarco, who also gets a shout out to
he basically it's his job to put on golf tournaments,

(01:50:55):
and he's he's awesome, I mean really he's he couldn't
been nice. He's awesome at it um anyway, I come
back and I sit down at the table, and you
law are like the most incredible Your eyes were lit up.
You're like, this is the most incredible story involving Joe Pesci.

(01:51:15):
He just came up to me, and you just what happened.
I went back to the I went it was a
hot day, so I went to hydrate myself at the
at the bar and Joe walked up to and no
one else is there. The bar was in a separate room,
and he walks up with his martini and uh, the
bartender's name is Barry, and he goes, he goes, Barry, Barry,
they tell you the drink was from me when he

(01:51:36):
ordered it, because he ordered Barry goes, yes, Mr Pesci,
He goes, it's funning awful, puts it back down on
the table, and I'm just sitting there, like do I
make eye contact? I keep looking forward. I'm not really
sure what to do. I don't want to be I
just don't know what to do. So then he's like,
give me another one of these, and I need to
tequila's for the other two guys that were out there.

(01:51:58):
And then he looks at me and he goes he
was nice beard. He looks a beard, and you guys,
did he did he really drop the F bomb? Absolutely yeah,
there's no question. And then he let me get a
closer look and he starts he grabs my face and
he's job your face. He's like five ft one when

(01:52:19):
you were there, But I got the story after nobody
else and then Pesci told me back the story. So
so he grabbed my face and it's great beard. He
got good lines up top. He go, what's the ship?
And he's like, your beard line goes way too long.
He goes, you don't have a double chin, no turkey neck.
Tighten that up. He was, I'm an actor. I'm I'm

(01:52:40):
a famous actor, but I used to be a hair
barber before I got famous. You know, I cut hair
till I was thirty. Let me see what I can
do there. And he pulls out a lighter and he's like, yeah,
I would just clean this up right here, and he
starts flicking his lighter and I'm like, do I let
Joe Peschi burn my beard? Not really sure? And I'm like,
I think I'm gonna let him do it. Yeah, Joe
Peshi wants to burn my beard. Go ahead and do it.
And so he's messing with the lighter and he's got

(01:53:02):
a cigarette in one hand and his martini glasses on
on the other hand. He's about like the lighter and
he hits a button on the lighter and the blade
comes out of it and the blade goes And now
I'm starting to think I'm like good Fellas, because you know,
he and uh, I go, is that what I think
that is? And again it's just him and I and
buries back. They're nervous about making his drink because he

(01:53:25):
does not want to screw this one up clearly, and
I'm like, is that what I can? I see that?
And he hands me a knife and how does this work?
He shows it to me. He goes, you know, anybody
can punch somebody. Anybody can punch somebody. You want to
intimidate someone, you tell them I'm gonna butt your and
spit it in your face. And I'm just there and

(01:53:45):
I'm happy. I swear he did a one eight turn
to just talk about swear on my life. He's like,
I once took a butter a butter knife to a
guy's throat and it didn't penetrate cause it was a
butter knife, and he starts telling me, he goes that
guy never messed with me again. And and at this point,
this is about five six minutes have gone onwards, just
him and I and I'm looking around at the table

(01:54:05):
like where is law? Where is Joe Pesci? Then a
couple other things happened a few more stories, and then
like three people come running back and they're like, Joe, Joe, Joe,
you won, you won, And he had won one of
the yeah right now, and we were looking at and
everyone just like where he was with me at the
mark and so the so the prize was that like

(01:54:27):
the club glove, the club glove that you used to travel.
So Peschi comes back near our table and I look
at him and he's looking at me like what the
am I gonna do with this thing? He's like, I
fly first class. I FedEx my clubs everywhere I got.
That's why I look at Pesci. I go, hey, you
got a problem with my friend's beard? You said yeah,
And then he starts retelling me the story of what

(01:54:47):
just happened. Well, I came out to Brockie like eyes
like this and like you're not gonna believe We're just
telling like, no one to believe this story, and I
don't believe many listeners. I'm not gonna lie when I
told you believe right now. He told him about the beard,
and then he mentioned it to Pescia, but don't tell
me like I don't know him, thinking I'm talking about him,
like the guy just pulled a switchblade on my beard.

(01:55:10):
So then ten minutes later, the event kind of came
to a close. I don't know, you would maybe left
at this point, but we walked back into the bar
where Pesci was posing for a photo of some dudes.
So I kind of he was like, hey, do you
mind taking our photo with Joe Pesci? Jo Pi's got
cigarette in one hand, martini the other hand, and so
I take the picture. And then I was like, well,
here's our chance. Can you can you guys? Can you

(01:55:32):
guys get us real quick? And we kind of snake
in and get our photo with Peshi And that's the
one I wouldn't ask for a photo, but like he
engaged and spoke with us. First. Yeah, we thought it
was we thought it was okay, but that was that's incredible.
It was rich. I can't like. It was one of
those fun times to believe this. And it was one
of the best days that you know, I've had fun,

(01:55:53):
fun day, and it was and red Cross dot org
is your way to absolutely donate to your local chapter
of the Red Cross. We're talking about how what was it,
what do you say, forty or sixty percent of the
nation's blood supply comes from from the Red Cross, from
the National Red Cross, and of the people you see
at these uh, these disasters helping out our volunteers. Two

(01:56:17):
cents of every dollar you donate goes directly to donating
funds and paying for Red Cross workers. She's an incredibly
number number. Yeah, we learned a lot about the organization.
Red Cross dot org is your way to get involved
and all of this fun, fun times. And we played
some pretty good golf. Now we didn't. I didn't. I
was terrible. It was. It was terrible. Seriously. I played

(01:56:38):
a little bit in January and then Labor Day was
the last time I swung club. I just you don't.
I don't play that much either. Of course, though was beautiful.
I couldn't put though. You know, we're hitting some drives. Okay,
we were saying that there were caddies with each group.
I don't know if I can go back to playing
regular golf. I've never played as a caddy. It's kind
of like you've never played with the cast. Time I've

(01:56:59):
ever played a Catty rich we're Simpleton's here, look at us.
I mean we don't. First time I've ever played with
the caddy. It's like it's kind of like fine, first class.
You're like, I don't need that. You do it one
time and you're like, indeed, fun show guys. I want
to thank everybody involved with Draft Day. Uh, congratulations on

(01:57:19):
a on a job well done. Tracy Perlman in the
NFL should be beaming with pride based on this film.
And when you get Kevin Coster in a sports movie,
it's your sport, you should puff the chest out a
little bit. And I want to thank Kevin Coster for
coming on this show. Good job. Chris law so uh,
Chad and Chris Fry and Scott Roberts from Vancouver. Yes

(01:57:43):
you're still in this mix. Everybody else. We we appreciate
your time and effort and of course your listenership and
you're your passion to want to be part of this program,
um and um. And we'll listen to some more next week, right,
we'll geta I'll listen back to these, will narrow it
down about and then we're gonna get some. Let's get

(01:58:06):
DJ back on here. Let's get let's get some because
we're getting in the nitty grit D and we're approaching
the nitty and the gritty one month and counting. Unless need,
we're coming for you. We're gonna talk. We're gonna talk
to him. I'll get on that right away at Chris Law,
at Chris Brockman. I'm at Rich Eisen for at the
Eisen podcast piece out Stay listening, friends,

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