REP: Les Snead and Larry Fitzgerald

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Thrilled to have on the Rich Eyes and Podcast Bruce
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is one second he's taught me, hey man, what's up?
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friends over this weekend they were trying to explain to
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any podcasts, but when I do, I profer Rich Eyes
and Podcast is your host, Rich. Hey, everybody, welcome to
the latest edition of the Rich Eyes and Podcast, closing
in on two weeks until the NFL Draft in two
thousand fourteen May eight, the night of Thursday May eight

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in Radio City Music Hall. Two weeks usually after this
coming Thursday, which is when the draft normally would be
an extra two weeks. That feels like it's never gonna come.
Same thing with the two thousand fourteen NFL schedule, Yeah,
sort of in the same boat. Good to see both.
Chris is here, Chris Law. Good to see you rocking

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a Philadelphia Phillies hat. Yes, going to the game tonight
Dodger Stadium and for four games set the rebirth of
Ryan Howard and Chase Utley behind the a Hall of
Famer Chicago cub your manager. Pretty interesting bedfellows going on
in Philadelphia, Cliff Ley last night Monday, and we're taking

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this on a Tuesday last night. They gotta get clear
some help though. I meanwhile, a a thankfully um immaculate
Pristine Marathon Sun Monday in Boston this past week. It
was pretty great. Rich, you could see you. Chris Brockman,
Boston Strong my uh, my niece, Susie's brother's youngest daughter

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waving a flag on the on the route of the
Boston Marathon made the piece on Brian Williams NBC. Not
adorable little blondehead, blondhaired girl and she was waving a
Boston Strong flag. I got a call from Massachusetts State.
Got it You at a TiVo? Uh? Or I guess

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that's a that's that's a that's a passe verb. It's
like putting on a band aid or right, but it's
you don't TiVo anymore? You DVR rich, Yeah, so DVR.
But Ryan Williams is season pasted in our household, but
at any rate, so, I guess you know we're this
is the silly See we're waiting two weeks. We're talking.

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You said about the Eagles, about the Philadelphia Phillis, The
Red Sox and Yankee started three game set this evening.
This is this is gonna be fun. Well he is
what status is? He's a live stat Red Sox are
nine and never made the season, which they're under five games.

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I just got done reading that. It's April twenty second.
This guy is texting me all the time time about
about all their offense is terrible. Are you worried yet?
All I do is right back with with the day's date.
I saw him yesterday and he was talking smack on
the red Sox to me about you great, guess what
the rivalries all about? Suck offense, struggling, that's what it's

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all about. And again we're in between. We're in this
silly seat. That's this two weeks, this extra two weeks
has driving me a little nuts. Well, it's like it's
like Game of Thrones, rich winter is coming. It's gonna come,
you know, and the night is full of terrors. Right,
you never know what's going to happen on a draft night. Uh.

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This week, Clowney and Manzel each visited the Houston Texans,
and apparently from certain reports, it was at the same
time that Rick Smith went out with Clowney to dinner.
The general manager went out with Clowney to dinner, and
the head coach, Bill O'Brien and the offensive staff went

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to dinner with Manzel. How well, we saw when they
were with the Jaguars, mccaron and Clowney at the same
time with the Jaguars. They met in the hallway and
there was a fun little video of a meeting in
the hallway, So Houston is gonna be on the clock,
and I think that that's that those are the two
choices that they're gonna do for Houston. Now, they could
surprise us and go Bordles, or even shock everybody and

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go Bridgewater, which would blow everything up because as you
heard on the last podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky
Brooks saying that there is zero buzz on Teddy Bridgewater. Right,
he seems to be the guy who's following the most,
but he's also a top more draft experts quarterback draft boards. Yeah,

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he's Mayock has him his third but like Keiper has
him as his number one quarterback, DJ and Bucky have
them as his number one, but they have him being
drafted of the top three. And there is even talk
that that Derek Carr. Right, I got it right this cast,

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that Derek Carr might even hop above Bridgewater. Right. This
is that season though, where everyone's is it the extra
two weeks just throwing out it really is because like
you said, we normally would be two days away from
all this, and I don't think you would be hearing
this any chance Houston trades down. Of course, of course,

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there's a chance of that if they don't like either
of the two dinner dates. Yeah, because you know somebody's
gonna if they're not in, if they if they like, say,
like Khalil Mack better than Clowney, somebody who's sitting there
at five, six or seven wouldn't want to trade up
your calum as you want Clowney, which a friend of
Rick Smith supposedly said this week that they like Khalil

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Mack better than right clown and Peter. What about the
what about the Raiders now they trade away Terrell Prior?
Are they gonna put it in the keys your boy
mcgoin or does that set up to take a quarterback
or man shop shops shot. Don't forget Matt Shoppy, you
know as Morris Jones drew sers a super Bowl potential
quarterback right, four games in a row of the pick

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six Yeah, as uh, that's part of the news this week,
as well as seventh round choice of the Seattle Seahawks
going to Oakland for Terrell Prior third round supplemental? Was
that correct? Right? I thought it was the fifth third round, No,
it was third round, So I think that was that
was the final draft choice of al Davis, Right, Yeah,

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I think he made that choice shortly before he passed
and it was after the regular draft, because yeah, that
was a supplemental draft choice. That's part of the news
this week. Also part of the news this week silly
season stuff that um Peyton Manning was on the campus
at Tuscaloosa along with Adam Gaze, his offensive coordinator at

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the same time. Now, normally you'd think, Okay, Peyton's working
out with his offensive coordinator and they're getting together on
the same page. Maybe they're picking the brain of Nick
Saban together and trying to move the offense forward to
a point where they won't have trouble against a defense
like Cattle, although most teams usually do. And that makes sense, right,

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because that's what professional football teams do, is they meet
in the off season. They get together off campus, if
you will, even though it was on campus in Tuscaloosa.
They go ahead and you you you get on the
same page outside of the meeting room, if you can,
you work out. But in the new collective Bargaining Agreement

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world of the National Football League, before the offseason workout
program officially begins, as it did this week for Denver,
you are not allowed to be a coach and a
player in the same spot talking football with each other.
Can't do it. And so what's read If you just

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heard this story coach and quarterback on a college campus
meeting against the rules, it sounds like a college football story.
It's an NFL story. Now Peyton man and Adam Gae
were saying that they happened to be on the campus
for separate reasons. And of all the stories that you

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never think would be talked about. Two weeks before the draft,
Nick Saban as cover for Peyton Manning to circumvent the
NFL rules by meeting his offensive coordinator prior to the
start of offseason workout conditioning. That would not be at
the top of the list. You couldn't even make that

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up for a movie script or anything. That's still bizarre.
We'll talk about all of it with less need. The
general manager of the St. Louis Rams, who's gonna come
in his usual spot a couple of weeks before the
NFL Draft. He's done that last few years. This is
his third year in a row. We're gonna pick him
up this tim or what do you mean, crumbs drop?

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The bread crumbs that he dropped the last time he
was on talking about the number of number one overall
draft choices, that his number to pick back in two
thousand and twelve was worth and lo and behold he
swapped it for three first round picks two years ago
from the RG three trade, wondering if he's gotten calls
already for the number two, because if if Clowney goes first,

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then every quarterback and every offensive tackle still on the
board four less need to take every wide receiver is
available for less need to take or trade that pick
because nobody thinks he's going to take it on a quarterback.
And if you're three, four and five wanting boardles Bridgewater
or Manzel, wouldn't you want to just hop up one spot,

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two spots, three spots? Do you want? If maybe you're
in the low teens by that, I mean fourteen, would
you package things together to get up to two? Would
you do that? Obviously the team choosing thirt overall wouldn't
do that, because that's that's also less need, that's his
actual own pick. Would you do that? Has he ordered

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received phone calls for this? What are the parameters in
his mind of the trade? And if not, why not
take a quarterback. That's what everyone wants to do. It's
the same question. By the way, it's two thousand and twelve.
Is Sam Bradford the guy for St. Louis in the
future because he has not been? I mean, you take
a look at it, but you al sarticulous at other
number one overall quarterbacks. You're you're assuming that they're going

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to go ahead and be Andrew Luck hope not all
of them are. Matthew Stafford leaves to mind. Even you
know the matchural wasn't number one overall, but he was
right behind Jake Long, number two overall, number one overall
pick Carson Palmer, Ja Marcus. I mean, list goes on
and on right, What would you do if you were

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if you were less holding that number to pick? M
Oh my gosh, what would I do? Would you take
a tackle? Would you take from Auburn? Think Taylor Lawan
is the first tackle take? No, it's it's Greg Robinson.
But a little side note on your boy Taylor Lawan

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um He was in studio about a week and a
half ago, two weeks ago on the Draft Tracker podcast,
Send h send DJ a handwritten thank you note. So
he was here. He was on this campus. He was here,
you were out of you were out of town, and
because we were going to try and make those planes
collide there. But he was gone, very artful. Come on,

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analogy planes, Claude, You know, no, they don't connecting planes
a line, planes a land Chris. Look, it's been a
long weekend. It was a holiday weekend. It was a
long weekend. I mean I got some stories about that
long weekend. What would you do? What would you do?
Did you go tackle? Do you get him another getting

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another weapon? You trade down? Here's what I would do.
I mean I would take. I know what I would do.
I take Johnny Man, you love man, There's no way
he's by you at three in our Rip that knob off, now,
rip the knob off. I don't know, man. But here's
the thing, is I just I don't know the full stories.

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You know that the underbelly, the Manzil underbelly. How filled
is that underbelly? How how rich he's throwing fifty yard
passes two guys on jet skis? I saw that video yesterday.
Tell me that again. Did you see this man's l
posted to his Instagram? Uh, he's on the beach or

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on a pier or something, and he just one of
his buddies takes off on a jet ski and he
he hit some perfect perfect in what do we what
do we call it in cruise? I'm not sure, but yeah,
see that's part of the whole thing. Like I if
I'm an owner, I like that razzle dazzle. I want

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that high, but only if I know for sure that
that's just the act, that that's not the fiber. Does
that make sense? Sure? I got to know that he's
going to be close to doesn't have to be but
close to first one in last one, I'll leave certainly

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near the quarterback. And you're using the number two overall pick.
But they they like Sam Bradford. They seem committed. But
I'm going to kick those tires when I when Less
calls in, well, the thing the thing too with Sam Bradford. Look,
I think we all know he has the ability, but
quarterbacks coming back off a torn a c l in
general that next year, after already having Robert Griffin, the third,

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Philip Rivers, McNabb, Tom Brady, Carson Palmer. I mean, it's
it's usually a two year thing for the quarterback position.
But you know, if what do you do you trade Bradford?
I mean, even you release him, how quickly would he
be picked up? Two seconds, one second, three seconds? Lots
of teams would like that. They've already in said a
ton of money. And I sort of understand where he's going,

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but I still want to kick the tires when he
calls it. And the NFC West is A is obviously
hyper competitive. And we've got Larry Fitzgerald calling in what
what's what's going on? Larry Fitzgerald has a celebrity softball
tournament that he's hosting this weekend in Scotts cell Arizona.

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Can we somehow get in on that too? Yeah, we
didn't get the invite. No invite there. You know, I've
been discussed for Jared Allen celebrity golf tournament, not for
this one, but I'm going to be there for the
Super Bowl. Yeah. This year. We're sending a crew though,
so we'll have some footage up on that'll be fun.
So was there a meeting about that? There was no meeting.
But so when we say we're sending a crew in
film media, not the podcast, we're on an island. We're

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on an island here, Chris, We're on an island. What
is the name of our island? Good question of podcast?
What is what is the name of our island? That's
a good question. Well, Eisen Island sounds like, you know, immigrants.
Once Island sounds like a salad dressing. Plus, it's the

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silly season. It's the silly season. Um And who's open
did we use today? We used Jason Strachan's open Today.
Jason was the last submission last week. Do you like front?
It was more disturbing than as I tweeted out too.
I was laughing way too much. I kind of felt

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inappropriated some of the things that I was laughing at,
But I thought it was great. Yeah, that's kind of
what they go for. Though is that yeah awkward? Like, well,
I don't think I should be laughing at this, But
this was really funny. This was really dark though. It
was darker and darker than the movie in certain ways.
Right off the bat um and you also tweeted about, um,
a wrap, a sandwich or something this week? What food

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stuff did you tweet about this way? It was at
the California Chicken Cafe and I hadn't been there in
a while, and I forgot how good the combo rap
was and so you you took to Twitter to let
us know. Yeah, it was ten o'clock at night on
a Saturday, and I just wanted everywhere. I think I
think I retweeted that with the one word deep. Is
that why? The next day you tweeted something of mine
and you put deep. Yeah, like this is deep. Yeah.

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See what he does sometimes is I lash out at
him and then he lashes out at the garbage. We
kicked the can down the road. We really do. It's
like some families to time with Brocklyn on Saturday. We did,
but we had we had a good time though. Yeah,
where'd you go with Saturday? Well, Saturday we normally played
basketball and then we head up to this um this

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sausage place and Venish called work. What is it work?
And then and then uh then bowling. The idea of
bowling was thrown out and that picked up a bunch
of steam and so we had some four on four
bowling at which I threw a two oh nine game.
And not to mention, the law did a face plan

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on lane three. Little slip on lane three, Rich, little
slip All right, now, um, I need more details. Clean
up on aisle three, Rich, I need more details. Did
did the ball get stopped? Your fingers get stuck in
the in the bowling ball? The ball went, the ball
was released, the ball went. Log I had a title
to his flint stone over there kind of tripped over

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his feet. You ever you ever hit a dry spot
on on the you know, on the alley, dude, I'm
from Staten Island. I've bowled many a day. The sport
oil wasn't the greatest on the lane, so you know,
I was trying to get a little close. Sure, there
wasn't too much saucage going down the lubrication at this
point in the night happening, and uh little took a

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little tumble. But Brockman tried to videotape my next one
because he thought another tumble was coming. Ye, and then
he threw a strike and it was great. Holy, the
draft can't get here fast enough. This is what we're
this is really, this is what we're saying. We're down.
I mean, the two weeks, these two weeks are driving

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me nuts. I'm ready, I'm ready. But here's the neat
thing is on the back end. All the O t
A s are gonna come right, May is going to
be really busy. We're you know, May is gonna We're
used to April having a little bit more possessed. The
schedule will add some of that. The schedule release should
be this week. Right now, it's gonna happen this week.

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It's gonna happen this week. And what will probably happen
is we will finish this podcast, and within five minutes
of it being in the can, they will announce it's
coming out Wednesday at five pm. Yes, specific and if
it does happen on Wednesday, I'm hosting it, and I'm
gonna keep the beard that I've got. I'm gonna go

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on air beard. I like it. Yeah, I'm gonna go
on air Beard, and we'll see how it rolls. Go
on hell billy style on air. This is not hell billy.
It's nice and properly trimed. I don't know. I've never
telling you to trim your beard. I have not heard
from Joe Pesci. I have not heard from Joe Pesci.
By the way, you want to talk about a guy
who would break the bleep record if we ever got

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Joe Pesci on here, that records going down. I don't
know if Jo has heard of podcast. No, but I'm saying,
if we could somehow get him well the UM and
then we're gonna get to let let's less he's calling
it in a minute um. The record that Bobby Connavoli
set last summer and the Red Hot Chili Pepper's lip

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sync halftime performance at the super Bowl calls Timothy Oliphant
to break in his post super Bowl appearance this February.
What is the record because conna Vali was twelve Yeah,
no conval waste and then said asked him, no, no,

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it was twelve. You just you said, Oliphant broke it
and then and then and then he one uped it
by saying, f Bobby, I've actually gone with like two
more after that. What I believe now it's it's either
fourteen or fift because it is going down next week.

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Tweet tweet if any listeners know from listening, tweet us.
I'm gonna check it out too. That was a great episode.
That was a fun one with all the fans. Just
because we did the three week open project doesn't mean everything.
All the responsibilities, all the items within your normal inbox

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of this program can be passed off to the listenership Okay,
I love it, Brock, but just sometimes just keeps his
mouth shut because he knows he just wants me to
keep going. I love that. Lucky guys just keep going on. Well,
but the reason why I bring this up is next
week Bob Saggatt is coming on this program in studio

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and that record is going down. And if you don't
know what we're talking about, people just go rent the
Aristocrats before Bob comes. Oh gosh, not just that anything.
Most people that aren't two into the comedy scene think
of you know, a full house, or think of America's funny,
some videos, clean neat. That's the covers. The book that

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does not get judged by that cover when he was
on Entourage is Bob. Yeah, he had. He's got a
new book out as well that you should all um
go find on Amazon dot com. He's coming in and
promote that. And what we have to do we have
to do. I don't know if he's gonna do it,
he says he will, but we've got to put on
the front end of that show. Mayok just so we

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say this is a podcast with Mike Mayock and Bob
sagging on. And I would defy anybody to come even
remotely close in our industry to putting that together. This
is what we do, Rich, this is what we do.
A man who grinds tape and a man who just

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loves to grind program that's next week, all right, now,
let's talk draft with it. I mean, this guy holds
the cards in my mind. I know Houston is number one,
but you always look at draft flash points or what
pressure points. Tomas Domino's tumble after the pick that's made,

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because even if he even if he keeps it and
doesn't go quarterback, that just sets things up for three, four, five.
Oh my lord, would you stop with that analogy? Would
you please? But this guy is this guy holds most
of the cards in the draft, and he is on
the phone right now. It's become a tradition, unlike any other.

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Right before the draft. On the cusp of the draft,
as the draft is about to hit, this man comes
along with his two first round draft picks and calls
into the risiz and podcast for the third straight year
with two picks in the first round thanks to the
r G three trade that sparked a movie in theaters
near you. Drafting, not other than the general manager of

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the St Louis rams Less need how are your less?
I'm good And I was gonna easily say that. You know,
we're a little behind the masters, but since it sparked
the movie, maybe the traditions getting close. It is unlike
any other less. I mean, it was just a couple
of years ago when you were picking second overall and
you had Sam Bradford there and you and and Jeff

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Fisher new to the organization saying steadfast Lee, Sam's your guy.
Now here you are two years later, second overall pick,
and everybody's asking you have Sam Bradford is still your guy?
And you still have the same answer. It's amazing. But
at least the number two overall pick is not your
own right. That definitely makes picking two better. Picking two is.

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You know this is not a compliment often, but uh
so it being the Washington Redskins are once at the
Washington Redskins picked, It makes it a lot better. Yes,
it does make it a lot better. So are you
like the rest of us, that you're ready to have
the draft now? I mean this is draft week. Normally
this would be its draft week. Now you've got to
wait an extra two weeks. What has this? Uh? May

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date for the draft been like for you, you know.
I think sometime at the end of last week is
when I said, Okay, we're ready to draft. And I
looked at the actually looked at the calendar and said,
it's gotta be soon. When was it supposed to be?
And that's you got that itch. But what what we've
tried to do Now you've gotta lift through it once
to probably get the calendar exactly right. But what we've

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tried to do is spread some things out, not make
it so intense in bulks, so that you can get
some mental breaks and get away and escape and and
and hopefully have your mind fresh for for the different
scenarios that may come up, oh May eight, but definitely
definitely we're we're Kentucky Derby where the horse is and
and we're ready for them to open the gate. Yeah,

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and well, I think that the Derby actually has run
before the draft this year. The actual Kentucky Derby, I
believe gets run before the draft this year. Where could
be Draft weekend. I'm not sure about those horses that
it can't be Draft weekend? Can I don't know. I mean,
the NFL you know, just holds its things, its events
whenever it cares to, and the rest of the world
has to adapt less you know that, you know, but

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that that's a new tradition. Kentucky Derby run before or own. Yeah,
it's a Saturday before the NFL draft. So, um, so
your is your board set right now? Would you say
your board? What would you call your board right now?
I would say the board is set. There's there is
always some small fine tune, fine tuning that goes on

(26:47):
with it, depending on you know, meetings, private workouts, some
things where you get to know the player a little more.
Nothing major. A card may move a cinemeter or two,
but but you know, not anywhere not it doesn't move
a foot or two. You know, it's only in inches.
So but the board is pretty much set and it's
ready to go. How would you term this draft? Classless?

(27:11):
It's one of my favorite I've it's a deep class
and it's there's a lot of depth, and there's a
lot of good players and and I'm not sure when
they're gonna you know, when they're gonna run out, But
it's just deeper than normal. It's probably you know, if
they run out sometimes normally in the second round they're
gonna go into the third round. But even at the
top of the draft, there's some freaks of nature that uh,

(27:33):
there's more freaks of nature than normal. So it's been
a fun draft to to, uh to study an analysts.
I assume you're referring to Clowney in that regard. You know,
he's one of the uh, you know, unique freaks of nature,
but there's a there's a few others as well. And
I think because Clowney his name has been primed into

(27:53):
our brain, you know, since last year, or or since
that that Bowl game where he you know, no boy,
yeah yeah, it was your am. He missed the block
and annihilated the running back. So he's been primed into
your brain. But to be honest with you, that's probably
taken a little bit away from some of the other

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you know, freaks in this draft. Well, can you I
don't want you to put cards on the table, although
I'm going to ask you point blank about a couple
of them in a minute. Where what about Clowney and
his tape? We hear so much about his senior year
tape not being this or his last year tape not
being as the previous year's tape, and his work ethic
and things of that nature. You you have, you have

(28:35):
seen the tape, you have met the kid. What what
where do you stand on jadeveon Clowney walking into this
draft holding second overall? Less well, you know, I think
I would say this. I think the tape and if
if how bad it was with patient marks around, it's
been blown out of proportion. I called him a unique
player and and and let's call it Michigan. If Michigan

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decided to single team Clowney that day and it didn't
work out so well at the end. What was interesting
about this year, and I've rarely seen this with a player,
is oftentimes, nearly every time he was double teamed, many
times the kids triple team and teams still ran the
ball away from him. So he's they're taking three players

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and and he's taken half the field away as well.
So you know that it really helps the defensive coordinator,
you know, come up with schemes to help his other teams.
So long story short, less productive, but when you break
it down and watch the tape, he was highly productive
in terms of what he was getting offensive coaches to
try to do to slow him down. What do you

(29:41):
think of Manzel. You know, I think he's very I
always say that this very competitive, very exciting. I think,
you know, it's just been you know, he's been one
of those football players, uh, that you've enjoyed that you
as a general manager on a Saturday night, let let's
take the GM cap off and let's just enjoy college football.

(30:04):
I enjoyed watching that Duke game. I and you know,
I'm a big Duke fan since my wife then, so
I'm a big Duke fan. I like cut Cliff, I'll
walk out, But you know, I actually enjoyed watching Johnny football,
you know, come back and win that game. That's just
good for college football, good for football in general. So
is he where? Because all right, let's let me pass

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this out. Then Sam Bradford your guy? Correct Less Definitely,
people wonder why you've seen the articles. People wonder why
he can't stay healthy or when he was healthy, he
didn't really show the prototypical quintessential franchise quarterback throw the

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team onto his back ability. Now you could say that
about the rest of the roster that was there before
you were there. Less, but a lot of people wonder
why Sam Bradford is your guy? When you are sitting
there now for the second time in three years, with
the ability to tell virtually any quarterback you want if
you sit where you are, why would so how do
you answer that question? You know, I'll answered this win

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and I'm gonna explain it. But you know, well done
is better than well said. But you're asking for the
for the take on it. If we take the timeline
and and and I'll I'll break it down for you,
Jeff and I get here for the two thousand and
twelve season. So the previous five years before that organization
won fifteen games. Well, Sam actually won seven of those

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games his rookie year and he was you know, Rookie
of the Year for the league. Now here's what's interesting.
Two thousand and twelve, we come in, We adjust to
roster twenty plus players from the two eleven season didn't
get back in the NFL after we released him, or
didn't sign them back if they were free, if they

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were unrestricted free agents. So over the over these last
two years, we've won fourteen games, nearly matched the five
game five years stretching wins now and four teen games.
That's not the goal, never will be. But guess what
we moved the middle, made some strides, and we made
them with some young players. Youngest team in football two
years in a row. So and when Sam was healthy,

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can't help that he got an a c L Andrew
wish he didn't. That's life, that's football. Guess what, you
got to move the drill and and and they don't
call off the game next week. The long story short,
he's five tune one in a very tough division. So
I can say all of that, again, well done. Better
than Will said. I think all of that, plus the
experience he's gained, plus the throes he's made, all of

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those things, we say, you know what, he's a starting quarterback.
He's got it. It's better us to reef, you know,
reap the benefits of all of that than some other team.
So you're sitting there at to this year, Bradford, how
is his knee? Let's start with that. You know what,
it's his knee, and and and if he's progressed away.
It's fascinating the technology these days, with with some of

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the new equipment they have and getting these it's not
necessarily the surgery that's better. It's the rehab process. And
and you can get guys onto their feet and running
faster because of these different gravity type machines that picked
the body way away. But hey, he will. We're gonna
start O T A S in a couple of weeks
and he will. He will do some throwing during O

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T A S. So, uh, you know he's he's on
a fast track. As you've seen with a couple of
quarterbacks like Aaron Murray from Georgia and Mettenburger from l
s U. They got hurt probably around the time Sam did,
or even a little after, and they've come in and
done full pro days. So you can see how the
rehab process is improving with not just Sam, with with

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a lot of players. So you're sitting there at second
Overall right now is we're sitting here on what would
have been draft week. We got two plus weeks to go.
Have you has your phone already ranked for that second
overall pick? You know the phone that the phone has ranked? Uh,
I'm not gonna use the work as it's getting over
up called it, you know, flirtatious calls, and I think

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the phone's not gonna really really ring until people know
what Houston is gonna do or really it's gonna ring
when Houston makes a pick, because I think in this
draft there's teams that may want QB. There's teams that
may want a certain positional player if that person is
not picked by Houston, whoever that may be. And heck,
there's teams that may want another player that Houston is

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not thinking about picking, or you know, not supposedly thinking about.
We don't know that. So I think what's interesting is
there's more than one uh you know, player in play.
But I do want to you know, as you said
it too, Like I said, there's some freaks in this draft,
So sitting into a picking is not you know, it's
something that's very exciting to us. I'm sure you can

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get a plug and play player for the lack of
a better phrase, for sure at number two overall. But
I think fans want to know. I'm curious too, how
does this work? Less, do you get a call from
somebody saying that at some point, okay, let's say Houston
takes Clowney or just they name a player and then
a trade might be discussed. The parameters of it right now,

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so you all don't have to deal in real time
on draft night that something is essentially in your desk
drawer or in somebody else's desk drawer that's been discussed
with you. It's pulled out, phone calls made, boom, something
is done because you've already talked about the scenarios prior
to the draft. Definitely, you're exactly right. You'll you'll have

(35:29):
something in a desk. And usually how it goes is
you may tell the team you're definitely trading, or you
may say it may be if our players on the
board were deals off the table. If they're so, they're
gonna really know. Hey, if if St. Louis likes a
particular player, guess what, we don't have a chance. But

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if their players not on the board, then they're open
to doing business if ours is on the board. So
what happens is, yes, you come up with all the scenarios,
and usually you like to have the gentleman's handshake of
guess what, I'm not gonna you're not gonna call it too,
and I'm gonna say, oh, builds off the table unless
you give me more. So you don't hold anybody for

(36:10):
ransom necessarily on the clock, You're gonna you're gonna try
to get all of that done. Uh you know beforehand
and I mentioned, we've got one of our guys who
managed the Stalar account for his Tony pasteurs and he's
a he's an Ivy League graduate. He's a dartmouth guy.
So I've you know, I'm an Auburn guy, so you
can deduce he's probably smarter and brighter than so. But

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long story short, I've said him many times, Hey, you
gotta be ready to think fast because things are gonna
happen fast. So we're always we're always talking scenarios if
this happens, what are we doing? So he's he he
claims he's ready to go and he's ready to act fast. So,
um have you where where are? Because you you dropped
some serious bread crumbs two years ago you mentioned the

(36:53):
number of draft picks first overall draft picks you'd you'd
be you'd be accepting for for r G three? Um,
where where do you have at least right now a
player that you have in mind that if that person
is not taken by Houston, you got that guy. And uh,
if if that player is taken by Houston, the phone
can ring and you're gonna pull a trade. Has that

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been described on yet? You know that has not yet.
I think what sitting it to this year because it's
a deep draft. You could you could pick uh, you
could pick player A, and player B would have been
just as good. And I've often said, and we've done scenarios. Man,
if we get player A, then I'm sad we didn't
get player B, and then I plug player BE in,

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and then I'm sad we didn't get player A. And
that's just a compliment to the to the players you
wish you could, you wish you're agreed you could take
them all, but that can't happen. But I think to
answer your question on this one is unlike last time,
you know, last time, this thing was done well before
the draft, it seemed to be Hey, there was a

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two two quarterback at race, so we were getting calls
and serious calls earlier. I think in this case, nobody's
really come with guess what I'm gonna offer you this.
It's still in the we're still you know, if we're
shopping real estate. We're still in the in the back
and forth stage. Nothing serious yet. M Okay, what do

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you think is gonna happen? Crystal Ball? It for me? Football?
I mean, I do know this. Here's where I do
know it's gonna be a dramatic draft. It's it's gonna
be drama field and and that's that's whether we sit
it to or not. And because right now we don't
know Hugh Houston is gonna take and it seems like
today they could be taking another player than what everybody
thought they were gonna take for the last three weeks.

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So you still don't know what's happening at one and
whether Houston takes a QB or not, where does the
next QB go. We don't even know who the consensus
number one QB is. So I think all those things
are gonna make uh you know this, this, especially the
early part of this draft, pretty dramatic. But you gotta like,
I mean, like, if you need to tackle, you're probably
gonna have your pick of time. I mean, if Houston

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doesn't go clowney, I don't think anybody's sitting there think
they're gonna take a tackle. So if you want to tackle,
you got your choice essentially as you're as you're sitting there,
whether it's one of your Auburn guys and Greg Robinson
or somebody that Jeff Fisher has known since he was
in pretty basically kindergarten in in Bruce Matthew's son, Jake.
You got to feel good about that, right, Less, when
you think you know you you're, you're, you're definitely connecting dots.

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And you left out that Jeff's sons a teammate of
Greg Robinson. So that's a man. There's a lot of dots.
There's a lot of dots here with with the with
the with the two tackles, and we name those two,
but guess what, there's others. There's one from Michigan. Yeah,
there's I think that school struggled against South Caroline we
were talking about. But you know, so you have so

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what that allows you to do too, is it does
allow you to think about, hey, what if you really
want to tackle? And but if you didn't pull the
trigger it too you go another position and can you
get the tackle lay? So all those things come into
play as you try to figure out what to do
with But you've got to like the fact that also
that there's three quarterback needy teams right behind you and

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you you've got that I know you mentioned, uh you
call yourself the co pilot because of Houston's pick is
in front of you. But if they don't go quarterback,
you're the pilot. I mean, you're the pilot of this
draft less. I mean that that is something you've got
to like going in correct. That's that's the That's what

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we've talked about, and that's what I talked about with
Tony is guess what we're going to go from co
pilot the pilot relatively quickly. And at that moment when
that occurs, we've got ten minutes to you know, land
the plane. So we got to figure some things out quickly.
But yes, that's what we want to make the most
of the opportunity. I think that's the simple vision that
we've had is Okay, fortunate enough to make right two

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years ago, fortunate enough to have the two pick in
the draft, So let's go make the most of the opportunity.
And whether that's taking a player at two or whether
that you know what, let's let's move back. But again,
I think you you're hit the point. Depending on what
player there is going to depend on what people may
be willing to pay for your pick, and that's what

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we got a weigh in the end. Then what so
what do you what do you think the number two
overall picks worth with every quarterback on the board list. Well,
I think here's what I can tell you is, last
time I've joked with people that I know, hey, I
I'm in this situation, I hadn't used that point chart.
It was guess what, we had a couple of teams
at that point in time. We actually had more than

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two that actually wanted to pick, and they they were
real serious. So instead of you kind of knew what
they were willing to pay and you said, okay, if
they if they pay this, we'll close the deal right now.
So really, to be honest with you, waiting on to see, hey,
what teams are willing to pay, and they will weigh
that versus you know, holding patents. So there's no buy

(42:03):
it now button that exists. But we still got two
weeks to kind of, you know, speculate on the price
or not real quick. What do you think of Sammy
Watkins when I think he's gonna be a difference maker
in the league. You know you have he like Johnny Men's.
He may have been Johnny Football a couple of years

(42:24):
ago when he exploded on the scene as a freshman.
You know, you tuned into ESPN to see his highlights,
and I think, you know, he's got this rare combination.
Here's what I've said many times, he may be a
more gifted an Kwan Bolden and it guess what, ant
Kwan has done it. And I'm we're still competing against

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ant Kwan and he's still doing it to me. So
Sammy hasn't done that yet. But maybe Mom and Dad
gave Sammy a little more talent than a player that's
similar to him in terms of just run after that.
You just love watching can't play football? And how much
of your decision making less is based on your your location,

(43:07):
by the fact that the Super Bowl champion resides in
your division that many people believe the runner up to
the Super Bowl, A lot of people have the NFC
Championship Game essentially a division game. In the NFC Championship
Game was the de facto Super Bowl at Arizona is
getting tougher. How much is your decision making with Jeff
Fisher and everybody else, they're based on building from the

(43:29):
NFC West out. Uh, You're on to something, Definitely. The
first goal is to win the division. If we win
the division, guess what we're in the tournament. Now, how
we win the division is probably not playing defense to them.
By that, I mean reacting to what they do. It's

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more being proacted to what we do. And you saw
a little glimpse of that last year when we played
a division game on Thursday night and it wasn't pretty.
The forty Honors came to our place and kind of
you know, you know, embarrassed us a little bit, and
Jeff said, you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna
go back to playing really good defense like our division does.

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We're gonna run the football and we're gonna do play
action pass. And I think that's a Jeff Fisher type team.
So I think what we want to do is proactively
build our team to do what we do best and
then go fight these other guys. And you saw your
guys today, right the Rams returned to the bid. It
was you know, for the first time, the players parking
lots got cars in it. It's full. And I like

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to say, this is this is the first day and
and in the you know, the quest to to top
all the Seattle Seahawks for the n SC way. But
you can't talk to the players. What's going on is
that the truth. You can you can if you say
hi to him in the hallway, if you bump into him,
well you can. You definitely can be cord to say

(44:57):
hello to him the hallway. What happened is you have
all You've been to a lot of facilities around the league,
and you know they got all got this beautiful, lush
green grass usually behind them on three to four football fields.
So a lot of your players are gonna spend a
lot of time out there. Is just coaches myself, people like,
we can't go out onto the field where they're you know,

(45:21):
improving their trade. Is this college? Is this college football
that we're talking about? Because this is listen, I know
that there's got to be a line drawn because when
we first started the network less, i mean, the concept
of voluntary activities was was laughable. Everything was considered mandatory.
Players players would absolutely be considered in violation, let's put

(45:42):
it this way, of the spirit of teamwork if they
were not part of any voluntary activities, so that the
pendulum had to swing back in some direction. In my mind,
it just seems to me though, when when we're talking
about the the VP of the league and his offensive

(46:03):
coordinator being accused of using Nick Saban his cover to
meet then I think the pendulum has swung too far
in the other direction. I'd love to ask your thoughts
on that. I think you're definitely right. I think the
the pros of the pendulum swinging where it is now
is guess what these players were chomping at the bit
to get back. They they're glad to be here. There

(46:26):
was no dread. They're looking forward to the structure. You
can just tell. You can tell by their tweets from
the weekend to their you know, giddiness today. Uh. The
negatives is and and I've said it a few times
is I think in America. And let's take big warm
Buffet fan. And obviously he's done a nice job investing.

(46:48):
He's one of the best at the best at what
he does. I just don't think Warren Buffett takes fifteen
weeks off. I just don't think it's in his counter say,
you know what, for me to be the best at
what I do. For that guy that's out there trying
to cure cancer right now, I'm not sure he says,
you know what, I'm gonna put the microscope down and

(47:08):
I'm gonna take fifteen weeks off. So I think that's
where the penduel may have swung too far. But I
think what happens is it's not It shouldn't be to
go back to where it was and you just grind
everybody down because each organization to consistently win over a
long period of time. Your goal shouldn't be to run
your best assets into the ground. It should be in

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science is getting there now? Where? Hey, how do you
you know? Prep recover, have your body, your physical all
of that skills primed and ready for not just Sundays
but also januaries, and not just januaries but also two
and three years down the road. So if you could
wave a wand what would you what would you change?
You could? You could talk to them or you could

(47:52):
uh what you know, what parameters could be set up?
I think, you know, if I could wave a wand
it maybe uh, starting with some of the younger but
let's let's take let's take this year's rookie class. They finish. Uh,
let's take the Auburn and Florida State kids. They finished
their national championship game in Pasadena. They probably at least

(48:13):
the Florida State kids went out had a nice time.
Then they went right in the structure training for combine,
and then they've been in the structure training for for
you know, their pro days, and now they're gonna drafted.
Previously they would go home, you know, for Christmas and
those type things, given vacations, but come right back to
structure time. Well, now these kids are gonna get drafted

(48:36):
by us, and they're gonna go through a long season
and boom when the season's over. Yes, they definitely need
some time away because this is a ground, it's a
you know, it's a tough, emotional rod and you need
some time away. But I just don't think you should
send those rookies home for fifteen weeks and for the
first time in their life they have no structure, but

(48:57):
in it's for fifteen weeks. So what I think happens
is veterans are become veterans because of experience, and some
of these young kids are gonna are gonna black getting
the experience needed because you know, they're not around as much.
So I think it could you could tweak the way
you do some things with the young guys, not to
come in and put them in full pads and practice football.

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But maybe learn their trade, get better the things. When
you've watched the uh the Book of Manning where he's
scared to death not to be prepared and he's sitting
there on the projector watching the opponents. Things like that,
you know, just gives them structure time. I think veterans
are probably you could wean them to where Hey, the

(49:38):
more time you've had in the league, you've proven you
know what it takes to to get ready and consistently perform,
and that's why you're a veteran. I think those guys
can have more more freedom. Okay, to sum up this conversation,
you tell me if I got everything right, Bradford, your guy,
no question about it, not just for this year, but
for years to come. Correct. Definitely, Then that you didn't
stutter right there, he's your guy, Yes, uh, that you

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You've received flirtatious calls for the number two overall pick,
but nothing that has uh put considerable meat on the
bones for the construct of a deal. And certainly no
buy it now button exists for no meat and potatoes
on those calls yet. But you are you are open
for that number two overall pick? Uh, definitely taking the calls.

(50:27):
There's no for sale sign in the yard. There's no
foreclosure sign per se and where Hey, guess what we
we've got to sell, but we will listen and wait.
Wait what's being paid to what we have on the table?
To pick more dynamic players at the top of this
draft than you've seen in years. Yes, that's a true story,

(50:48):
true story. Okay, um and you you um, you're a
Duke fan now, because Kara would have it no other way.
I heard that, I got that, that is through, but
I've a pre care. I was it was a major
coach cave fan. Well, I mean that's what yeah, hoops though,
I mean you know, I can't say you're talking about

(51:10):
you're watching Cutcliff coached Duke football with interest as opposed
to you never really would have corrected correct But I
can't tell you that. I think probably about three four
I was a graduate assistant Auburn, and I can remember
breaking down film. And that's back then when you didn't

(51:30):
have computers. It was you. You're you're cutting up tape.
But the Fred Goldsmith years, and I can remember Ray
Farmer GM of the Brown playing, say, Thursday night they're undefeated.
This Thursday night they actually got beat. I think about
Florida State to kind of you know, ruined their their
seven and oh season. But I do remember Duke having

(51:51):
a you know, big year a few years back. And lastly,
Kevin Costner was channeling his inner less need in draft day.
Correct you you gave him pointers? That is correct? Right less.
There was a practice in London that I did, you know,
we did chat uh what it's like being a gym.
So I haven't seen it, but it was nice to know.

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I was told by Kira that they did mention uh
the St. Louis trade right off the bat in a
positive moment. Well, I mean less that the movie would
not have existed. The construct of the film would not
have existed or been based in any way, shape or
form of reality other than the fact that they had
you know, me, Berman, Gruden, Kuyper, Mayok and Dion in there. Um.

(52:35):
The realism was that you you actually pulled a trade
like this, you actually did it well to go to
go deeper. And this is when you're an only child. Okay,
So when you're an only child, you're spoiling. Your mom
thinks you're you hung the moon. So my mom, who
was in you fall Alabama, her and a bunch of
her friends. And remember these are probably sixty five to

(52:58):
seventy two year old him in Okay. They're driving from
you Fall, Alabama to Dothan, Alabama. You Fall doesn't have
a theater, so they take the forty five minute trek
to doth In, Alabama to watch Draft Day. So they're
jacked and they're kitty. But I get a text from
my mom that said something like this, Hey, guess what
you know? Uh? What was What was her comment to,

(53:22):
you know what, Kevin did a good job, you know,
you know playing you you know what I'm saying. It
wasn't me, you know, close to Kevin costnerant was It
was some type to the line of, you know what,
Kevin did a nice job, you know, portraying yourself. You know,
wait a minute, mom, that that's your your way off base. Yeah,
although you would you would never have pulled off the

(53:44):
trade that Kevin did and then gone into your your
your war room and said, all right, now let's really
start grinding tape. I'm playing of them you've just acquired.
You wouldn't do that, or or I think trade away
all your number two is for a trade that you
hadn't pulled yet to get all your number ones back.
I don't think you do that. Would you least that
that that you know I I probably would have done

(54:04):
that in college when I was preparing for an exam,
I would have waited till the night before. You know
that I did learn my lessons then. But you know,
in this business usually that is done on the on
the front end and not the back. So again on
the front end, nothing has been done in the number
two overall picks. And there's really no bread crumbs to
lay down this time, that's what you're saying. I think

(54:27):
you know the bread, you know the basically, I think
the bread you know, the uh bread clumbs? Will you
know lie in you know, once the drafts pass and
you and you go back and you you hit play
of your podcast and go through and say, there it was,
so you have left breadcrumbs. You have left some bread crumbs.
I have left some bread clumbs. What could they possibly be?

(54:50):
M hmm all right. So only only when the you know,
hindsight is when the bread comes become Yeah, okay, I'm
not gonna be and turning over analyzing this one. What
was that is always clearer than the windshield it is

(55:12):
and the object is closer than they appear to me
right now, is what you're saying. Less, thanks for the time,
as always, I appreciate it. You're welcome. You bet that's
less need the GM of the St. Louis Rams two
and thirteen in this year's first round Draft choices on
the Rich Eyes and Podcast. You're right, law, it's gonna
keep me up for the next two weeks. But the

(55:33):
bread crumbs, I believe has to be one of the
players that we mentioned as a possibility too, right, and
that was Robinsons. That was Matthews, Matthews Watkins, which is intrigued.
I mean they drafted they took Steadman Billy in the
fourth last year, obviously got Austin in the first. So

(55:55):
they drafted two wide receivers. And you can't have enough.
You can't have enough. And certainly if he thinks he
is a younger, potentially better version of an Kwan Bolden,
who I believe when it's all said and done, it's
worthy of Hall of Fame discussion. He's got that Super

(56:16):
Bowl ring, He's got the ring that I know that
he is shown the crab tree or crab tree asked
to see which one is more possible. I don't know.
But what if Watkins is the next Bolden and we'll ask, well,
I want to ask our next guest if he thinks

(56:38):
I'll probably say yes, because you know he's He's friends
with him, he's tight with him. But I mean, Bolden
made a super Bowl with Arizona, and he won a
Super Bowl with Baltimore. He damn there, came close to
the Super Bowl last year with San Francisco. You look
at the number of catches he's gonna wind up with
if he keeps going that hitt he took in the
Jets game and then came back, No doubt. I think

(56:59):
he's going to be worthy of the discussion and and
then obviously get passed over for many years if folks
like Chris Carter and Tim Brown can't get in right
off the bat. So long story short, Watkins maybe the guy.
Do you think that? But it's definitely not It's definitely
not Manzel. I mean, you heard him and he did,

(57:21):
I know, but it could be blown smokes. He did
say that that, and that's neat. That's the cool thing
that that you talk about with general managers beforehand. If
the situation crops up that my player is not on
the board and your players still is. Let's work the

(57:43):
parameters now, so in real time, we could just pull
the trigger and they have a gentleman and they have
a gentleman's agreement that you won't hold up the other
guy for more because the scenario actually that was discussed
is taking place that I know you want this so

(58:06):
bad that we already worked out the terms of the
deal two weeks ago, and I know you want it
so bad that now it's gonna cost you more. You
make that gentleman's agreement before. I like that. I like
hearing that. That's the sort of nuts and bolts, lift
the hood up on the engine type stuff I love
to hear and obviously pass along. When the when when

(58:28):
the Lions took Stafford number one overall, and I think
when the Rams took Bradford they kind of knew that
before going into draft night that was announced like the
day before. Well it's funny that the night before that
draft with Stafford, I am seed a chat for Sprint,
which was at the time the official wireless provider of

(58:48):
the National Football League, and I am ced to chat
with him and Mark Sanchez Stafford and San yes, sir,
night before the draft, a chat after which Sanchez got
on a plane to go back home to southern California
to be with his family. If you remember, when the

(59:08):
Jets pulled that trade, Sanchez was with his family in
southern California, hopped a flight back to New York, so
Sanchez was physically there and left New York. So I'm
sitting with Sanchez and Stafford and I said, you know,
prior to it. I'm like, this is night before. I'm like,
have you heard from the lines, what's happening? And he says,

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I don't know. I leave that up to my agent,
but nothing has been done yet. Night before the draft.
I think what happened was Condon in the drafts got
and Giants got together the that night to hammer stuff out,
and the next morning we heard it was gonna happen,
and I made the deal. And I asked Stafford, I'm like, regardless,
you're gonna be This is before the new Collective Bargaining Agreement,

(59:52):
when the insane scenario of making a rookie the highest
paid player in the history of the franchise was still
the norm, and like, like, for instance, you're gonna take
the top lawyer in Harvard Law School and make that

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graduate the highest paid attorney in the history of yeah,
the history of the firm. You're gonna go, You're gonna go,
You're gonna go, right, Mitten, very good, nicely done with
the firm. Right there, Mitch mcdeer, you're gonna go and
take the top you know, Wharton Business School student and

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make them the highest employee in the history of the
Dukes firm. Right to use the movie analogy. I asked Stafford.
I asked him, how much money is in your wallet
right now? And he opens his wallet. He had one
single dollar in there. And I might you know, but

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you took the courtesy car here right, I mean gonna
he walked, He walked the eight blocks of his buddies
from the hotel to the event Draft two nine draft.
Well what I what I'm getting that too, is if okay,
so those situations we knew a few hours before, there
might be some situation for like Houston might know who
they want, but they might not tell everybody. But do
they courtesy call Lesson say hey, you're on the clock

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after us we've already made our What they do is
and this is another somewhat flaw, and draft day teams
are not hanging on the commissioner's word for the announcement
of the pick because they don't know it yet. When
when the pick is made, when I called, let's say,
Chris law you are my intern with the Philadelphia Eagels,

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and I and I give you. Well, that's what usually
the people who are who are who are manning the phones.
It's an intern or a fan or or somebody who
has been in a long time employee. They get a
trip to New York. So you're my boy, I'm your lawyer. Yes,

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I get you. Gotta haven't seen the History of the World. Yeah,
I know exactly, you haven't. The other day it was
on headed on AMC Monday at Sunday night because of Madmen,
which I watched after Game of Thrones, Holy Smoked, So Good,
and so AMC for some reason had History of the
World on in the in the morning and I flipped

(01:02:24):
the television on and Xander saw mel Brooks is the
King of France. And he looked at me, he goes,
is that an adult movie? Not? You know, well, it's
not the what you would typically term an adult movie.
It's like it's not for kids. You know, it's like
an adult movie exactly, which you can tell. You know,

(01:02:45):
when Spider Man to posters around town, he goes, that's
for adults, isn't it. Because he sees Spider Man, he
thinks it's for kids. Not anyway. So you are my
person who's sitting at the table, I call you with
my pick. You write it down on two cards, two cards.
You always see two people at each desk who take
the cards. In radio city, you run on two cards.

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One card goes to the podium, okay, and actually hold
them it you right on one card. In my bed,
you rode one card. The card goes up the podium
and goes to two people. It goes to uh, the commissioner,
and it goes to Joel Buster of the NFL Front office,
who I believe then calls the next team on the

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clock and lets them know. So only the next yes
something like that, yeah and and so so the next
team on the clock knows who's already gone. So the
team that's next on the clock sort of gets a
little bit of a heads up as to who's gone
and so um. So in draft day, you know they

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would know who who Roger Goodell is about to announces
the pick. And the interesting thing is the commissioner's card
doesn't doesn't just take what's written on the card and
handed up. Somebody could write something illegible. The last thing
you want the commissioner to go like, who is this person?
What they do is each player has a card already
written out for him and phonetically printed phonetically if the

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name needs a phonetic pronunciation, exactly the the phonetic express
spelling of a Mukamara is underneath his name, and the
only blank that needs to be filled in is with
the blank pick. The blank selects. You just fill in
the number of the pick and the team, and the

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rest is already printed out for the commissioner. But the
next yes, the next team on the clock always knows
who's gonna It's never surprised for the next team on
the clock. When was the last time the number one
overall pick was signed before the draft? I think it
was Stafford, I thought was Bradford, Um, it was one

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of those two, Well Bradford was one two. Bradford, I
think that might have been it. He was signed before
the draft could be so, and so it was just
a formality. Well, it couldn't have been Cam Newton because
it was a lockout in two thousand eleven, right, and
two thousand and twelve, Luck wasn't signed yet because he
was still going to Stanford, remember that, right, because he

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wasn't allowed to participate even allowed to go to camp.
Two thousand to eight was Jake Long, Sam Bradford, Yeah,
it was probably Bradford was the last one. Yeah, it
was the last one to get the But I also
remember the last time Houston had the first overall pick,
they let everybody know it was Mario Williams our boy

(01:05:48):
schefter sniffed that one out. Now what everyone's like, it's
not Reggie Bush. You gotta be kidding me or the
hometown Vince Young either there. What it's an electric field
the first round. Well, the crazy thing about it too
is that it is it's a dog and pony show.

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It's a dog and pony show. Maybe we should get
Dick Costello back on the phone next week to see
if he can what his philosophy is again on Twitter
ruining the draft and we can check on the eyes
and funt we can tell you, yeah, who not to follow.
There's a good series and I'm also speaking at Michigan
on on May. It's gonna be a bad idea. I

(01:06:32):
doubt will be able to get him on short notice
at all. But I'm speaking. I'm speaking, you're speaking at Michigan.
It's the first ever um you know, each school normally
has its own graduation the night before the big humongous
usually it's the Saturday and the big ones on Sunday,

(01:06:52):
or in Michigan, the big Ones on Saturday and the
night before. You know. So for the first time, the
athletic department is going to do one just for the
graduating athletes. And they asked me to come and be
the first note speaker. And when is that? On a
couple of Fridays. I'll be on the campus of Anne Arbor.
I haven't been there. The last time I was on
the campus of Anne Arbor was when I went to

(01:07:13):
promote my book in two thousand seven. Why are we
not doing a podcast from like the Student Union Live
Richard and Arbor Audio only like a Big four, like Fly,
like how Corolla does it, like the Ice House. We
could do one of those type deals. I should have
let you know before. What's the date? Again? We can
still make this. We can still make this right land

(01:07:35):
and land and go straight to Chrysler Arena. It's gonna
be cool, it is. It's gonna be fun. Do you
get nerves at something like that? Well, I get nerves
sitting there. I gotta write, so I gotta write it out.
I know. But you just you want to get writing again,
so I'm not waiting. Susie suggested, just go up there
and speak from the heart. Uh, you know, I know

(01:07:57):
what I'm gonna say. I just need to put it down.
Is this like Jerry's I felt at the middle school?
Like how many minutes? I know? Just what you want
to do? If you want to be like me? Is
just uh a fart joke and you get a quarter arter?
What's the deal with homework? You're not working on your home?
Why do they call it oval to you? And they
should call it round? Did you guys catch any of

(01:08:21):
cought in the draft? This series the NFL films, the
v on the last week was incredible, just as you
know what what films does. There were five Hall of
Famers from that class and four from the Steelers drafted.
I mean that's insane. Yeah, different time then, hey man
spat Rod who Woodson, who's strolling around here, asked him

(01:08:42):
what it was like strolling into the Steelers locker room
when he was a rookie. Most of them were still there,
Chuck Noll, Oh, my lord. Yeah. He started with that's right.
And and one of Marshall falks my favorite stories Marshall
Falk tells. And then we'll get to Larry Fitzgerald is
on the phone. Did Marshall Has Marshall Falk ever told

(01:09:06):
you his Me and Joe Green story? I have not
heard that, okay, And I watched him tell this story
at the Hall of Fame with Jean Joe Green. There
were there heard this with me, Me and Joe Green
there telling the story to me and Joe Green, and
I think Mel Blunt and a couple other people. And
he's telling the story. They're playing. Marshall's playing against the

(01:09:28):
Arizona Cardinals, and me and Joe Green was on the
sideline and some member of the Cardinals was talking up
a storm during that game, talking up a storm, and
Marshall just laid it on him, laid it on the
Cardinals and he makes this one play, he breaks it free.

(01:09:48):
It's a big game and he winds up talking to
the whole bench as many people as he could yell at,
and he's like, I'm gonna get you. I'm a good
and he goes right down. And then he realizes two
people that he just yelled at past was mean Joe Green,
and he went back to He went back. He says,
I don't mean you, Mr Green. In the middle of

(01:10:11):
the back he went back. He realized, wait a minute,
part of the people on the cardinal sideline I just
barked at was mean Joe Green, and he said he
went back to people, I don't mean you. Mr Green
called himself like right in the middle of it, I know.
And Green said something along the lines of, yeah, I

(01:10:32):
was gonna come out there and slap you silly. I'm
cleaning it up a little bit. He would too, but
I mean, yeah, those Steelers they were, They're all They're
all in that gallery for a reason. All right, Larry Fitzgerald,
let's chat with one of the greats of our current

(01:10:52):
edition of the National Football League. He is the perennial
Pro Bowl wide receiver who will no doubt play, most
likely in his his home stadium for the Pro Bowl
coming up next year, and maybe if all things work
out for the Arizona Cardinals, they'll play another game the
week after that in his building. When you like that,
Laray fitz Joe, Yeah, we can. We can mix the

(01:11:13):
Pro Bowl and way for the Super Bowl. That would
be that would be idea, that that would be idea. Yeah,
that's that's that's the that's the concept. I'm sure you're
you're working on that right now. You're you're you're deep
in meetings already on April twenty second, Is that correct? Yeah, Yeah,
we're in the classroom, you know, uh, you know, watching
the cutters from last year, just as you put it

(01:11:34):
in our uh installed and uh you know, we're working hard.
You know, we've got a we've got a great coach
of staff, and we're trying to build on what we
were able to do last year within the sixth season.
Well what do you think We just talked about this
with the general manager of the Rams less neat about
how there's no communication allowed between coaches and players, uh

(01:11:54):
where in the past few weeks, whereas in recent years, um,
even the voluntary meetings were demandatory and that wasn't a
lot of fun for a lot of people either. Where
do you stand on the fact that, uh, in between
the end of the season and pretty much the last
forty eight hours, contact even outside of the meeting room

(01:12:16):
was not allowed between you and your and your coaching staff. Larry, Well,
you know what, um, you know, for the teams that
are have new head coaches and new coordinators, I think
it is a little bit more difficult. But for a
team like ourselves, who is returning everybody, um in terms
of most players and in skilled positions and and also
the coaching staff, I think it's it's not as big
of a deal. I mean, we all noticed system at

(01:12:36):
this point, we all are comfortable with each other. Um,
so the break wasn't as bad. But I can I
can see, um, you know, the teams that are coming
and new what they want to learn the system and
when they get acclimated with each other, um at that
time is valuable, you know, to be able to be
a little short and learning curve. So UM, for us,
it's not bad. You know, we we like to break. Yeah,

(01:12:57):
what what what you do? Normally? You you go to
some very exotic locations and you you, um, you take
part in some uh some fascinating ventures. What did you
do over the past couple of months, Larry, Yeah, nothing changed.
You know, I still did my my my trips. Was
always really enjoyed doing. I gotta get a chance to
go to Rwanda and uh, you know work with Sukey

(01:13:19):
here and foundation again on one of their mission trips
in Tanzania and me and Andre Roberts uh wanted to
Australia to go to the Houstralian Open you know in
uh in January. So you know, same old, same old
is going out and joining enjoining all the gods creations.
Same old, same old for sure. So what just before

(01:13:39):
you get to your your your charity event, Uh what
what what we're what was it like in Rwanda? Can
in Tanzania? Can you explain to me what what what
that was all about? For you? Well, you know, Rwanda
is a really interesting country. You know, they're twenty years
of moving in the genocide and now they are probably
after because uh most fiber and country in terms of

(01:14:01):
GDP growth and um jobs being created and and and
growth um in terms of their economic uh you know standpoints.
So I'm it's a fascinating country. They got a wonderful
president doing great things there. So to be able to
see them empowering themselves, you know, just from the couple
of years ago when I was there last bit in visiting,
see see the improvement in terms of infrastructure, new airports,

(01:14:23):
freeways and things like that. Um, so it was really
nice to see that in Tanzania. I always go there
a yearly just I love the safari and glutton and
see the wildlife. I enjoy the photography aspect of that. So, um,
you know, I always enjoy, you know, just seeing different things,
experiencing new cultures. And uh, this week you've got your
annual charity celebrity softball game v I P Party, et cetera,

(01:14:49):
to raise funds for your First Down Fund. What what
is this about? Larry well First Outfund we established in
two thousand and five, and um, you know, um, since
then we've raised quite a quite a substantial amount of
resources for after school activities for the youth and also
breast cancer research, which I lost my mother to in
two thousand three. Both of those calls and near and
dear to my heart. And there's a lot of influential

(01:15:10):
people that would help me alone in the way, and
I just want to make sure I'm paying it back
to all the younger generation coming behind us, so they
have the same opportunity I have to live in my dream.
Um and we have a lot of great players coming
out with Richard Sherman and UH and Kwan Bolan, Roddy
White and Greg Jennings, Stephen Jackson, um UH and Donacan
to a lot of stunship players coming out in support.

(01:15:32):
And I'm really appreciave to have those relationships and friendships. Yeah,
and you've got Kurt Warner there, Huh, you got Kurt
Kurt Kirk. Kurt actually broke his hands had a couple
of days ago. They said he was trying to dunk
off the trampoline. You know, if you ever go to
a Son's game, you see the gorillas that were to
do all the acrobatic dunks. And I thought Kurt was
having a flashback and maybe when he was in the
studies and he can actually touch the net. He was

(01:15:54):
out there trying to do some crazy stuff or take
part in the new movie White Man Can Trampoline. I
think that's what he's going. I think that's what he's
trying out for there. But yeah, he's banged up. He's
talking about he's just you know, he's he's he's just
starting to run again. I mean he's he says, he's
really banged up, but he's going to be out there nonetheless. Yeah,
he's gonna be out there coaching, uh hopefully to win

(01:16:17):
because he's my coach. Yeah. There's one name I see
missing here because it's as a host of Larry celebrity friends.
Is the name of rich Eisen. Larry, I don't see
that on the We know that you don't do anything
without permission from your wife. So yeah, Larry, you might,
you might, you might have pants all right now, but

(01:16:39):
you don't wear him at all. But she, but Larry,
she would love to be part of this too. I
mean you know her. You know you know my wife?
I mean I didn't. I didn't. I didn't know. I
didn't know. Okay, well now I guess I have for
the future. Yeah, okay, so what are you what are
you doing this weekend? We would love to have you.
Oh gosh, oh I can't. My wife would never let me, Larry.

(01:17:02):
Oh my gosh. Well if you send, if you send
in a particular aircraft, she might get on. You know
what I mean. It's just what is what is it
gonna be a G three A citation of some for
some sort that would suffice. Yeah, that would do. One
of the names that I do see on here is

(01:17:23):
an Kwon Bolden, And a few minute minutes ago we
did talk about this. I think when it's said and
done in his career, he should have Hall of Fame
mentions or at least a discussion where where do you
stand on on your former teammate? Larry is a special
human being. Um, besides the football aspect. I mean, he's

(01:17:46):
just a quality, quality person and one that I've been
blessed to be able to get to know over the
last eleven years. UM. But what he's able to compass
on the football shield, his hands down the toughest guy
I ever played with, Um, you know, breaking a face
and when we're in the Meadowlands against the Jets, um
and in two thousands and seven, uh and coming taking
four games, scoring two touchdowns for us, after having a

(01:18:08):
hundred screws, putting his face, and I mean, it's just
exemplifies the kind of toughness and tenacity, has a will
that can never be broken. And when you talk about
how the fame cidentials and guys, how you know they
would elevate the game at the highest levels. You look
back two years ago in the Baltimore Ravens won a
Super Bowl and how he played in that's a ball game.
He builds his team to victory. Um. You see how

(01:18:30):
he's uh you know, played throughout his career just dealing
with uh, you know, injuries or what happens. I mean,
he's always risen to the occasion and it's been fun
to watch. What are the odds that he carries a
message from Crabtree for Richard Sherman at your event this weekend?
What are the odds of that happening? And King a
non violent person, he's all he's all about doing the

(01:18:53):
right thing. You know that, That's one thing I do know.
Where where do you stand? I don't know how well
versed you. You are on the the incoming class of
the wide receiver group that's going to be available for
drafting in a couple of thursdays, Larry, but many people
are saying it's the best in years, starting with Sammy Watkins.
Do you have any any thoughts on some of these

(01:19:14):
kids that are coming in Evans Cooks, Uh, Benjamin, these
kids that are gonna be potential first round picks. I
will be lying to you if I told you I
knew you know too too much about it. You know,
I know the top tier guys, but once you get
past you know the you know, say, the first five guys,
you know, it gets a little funny for me. Um.

(01:19:36):
But I mean I've seen the highlights and watching them
from Network from time to time. You see, you know
how dynamic somebody these young men are. And m guy's
gonna come in and bring a lot of excitement to
this game. Okay, Yeah, I just thought i'd take a
crack at that, and and and um and twenty overall. Um,
what are you hearing for your team? Do you think

(01:19:56):
that that might go down for the Cardinals? I not
to slide his inclination, but we'll be doing in the draft.
I'll be honest with you. I don't I don't even
have this type of discussions, you know. I just trying
to make sure I'm doing everything I can to get
myself together and the guys that are in the building
right now, to make sure we're crossing our tees and
dot in our eyes. I thought you the other day, Larry,
when I saw the news that Boardwalk empires only one

(01:20:19):
season left in it. That hurt her so that, But
I'm loving Game of Thrones right now. You ever watch that?
Are you kidding? Men? He said? He said, how to
set my buddy tearing up? Oh? Man, it was hurt. Man.
I was glad to see Jeffrey go to I'm not
gonna lie about that. I don't blame you. Do you
think it was the pie or the wine? It was?
I thought so too. It was the pie. It was

(01:20:41):
the pie. And it was the court jester who did
it for for a little finger, right, That's the way
it seems like to me, right, the court jester, Because
the court jester was the one who ran up to
Sanser and said, you've got to come with me right now?
You know that was that was the court jester, the
one that Answo saved his life. Yeah, Jofrey was gonna

(01:21:02):
was gonna be hit him right that one, that one time.
I don't know if it was him though. I don't
think he had enough power to get that close to
him to get to the pie. Yeah, I don't think
he had that. I don't know, because he was the one.
As soon as it was happening, He's like coming up
to the Stark girl saying you gotta come with me.
I don't know he was in on it. I think
I don't know. But who's your favorite? I know who

(01:21:22):
my favorite character is. Who's yours? What before before U
Rob starts with my favorite obviously died last season. I'm
I'm a Stark guy. I like I like to start
you know, um you know, more interesting relationship is um
little starts with with the hound. Yes, you know like
that is a really dynamic too, you know it's I

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like it too. My favorite, though, is the Mother of Dragons,
The Mother of Dragonslia, you know. And here's You're like this,
here's bad to look She's not bad to look at it. Well,
here's the thing is. I had this because I do
watch Game of Thrones with my wife every week. We
we it's our favorite show. And so we're watching this
past week and the Calisi shows up on the screen

(01:22:08):
and she just looks spectacular, and I just it just
comes out of my mouth. I'm like, she is freaking
awesome and my and my wife goes, why it's because
she looks beautiful and kicks ass every week and I'm like, yeah, exactly,
and she goes, oh, I get it. I get it.
Oh yeah, that's the Mother of Dragons right there. Yeah,

(01:22:30):
well the dragons are starting to get a minit her
own now, they're starting they starting to bark back now.
Oh man. Yeah, I do love the Game of Thrones.
I love Game of Thrones. I'm glad you do too.
But Boardwalk Empire, he has only one season left in it,
all right. I honestly I football games and watch those after.

(01:22:51):
I wanted board of board Walking fire like Sunday night football.
I'll that and want it after. I'm the same. I
you know, I don't blame me for doing that. I
would do that for Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones.
Everything stops for Game of Thrones. You know. Aaron Rodgers
is a huge Game of Thrones fan. Huge. Yeah yeah

(01:23:13):
he is. I mean that's great. I mean he's here.
He came on last year. So maybe we'll have you
on too for after the season finale because we had
him on last year. I would love, I would I
would love I would love it. I thoroughly enjoy the
game with I just love how how many different I
mean they got one, two, three, they got five different

(01:23:34):
scenes going on in every single episode, so it's crazy
sometimes though, I just know that, you know, there's such
a finite number of scenes in a one hour show
that if they if they end up showing characters that
I'm not really interested, and I get piste off because
it's a waste of time in my mind, you know,
it's a waste of prime real estate. The new guy,
the new the new guy of this game and joined

(01:23:54):
the Wildlings. He seems like he's kind of interesting, but
he seems angry that I know it's hungry that guy.
Oh Man, Larry, listen, have a good weekend. Say hi
to everybody for me. I appreciate the invite, late as
it was, but I still appreciate it. I thank you
very much. Larry Fitzgerald dot com is the way you

(01:24:17):
could find out more about this week that supports the
First Down Fund. Thanks again, Larry. Yeah, we're me and
uh tomorrow we're doing something fun. We're speaking at Harvard
Business School tomorrow. Really yeah, myself, Dominique Fox, fox Worth,
Richard Sherman and uh and uh uh Foster, Aaron Foster,

(01:24:37):
who are you? What are you doing there? We're speaking
on the panel um bout African Americans and sports, the
social media impact that it has on athletics, athleticism today. Um,
you know, so it's it would be a fun little
round table, you know what, Larry. It's like when I
Richard Sherman being called the thug could be the dumbest

(01:24:57):
thing that I heard in many you know, and you
obviously know him really well. And I mean, it's just
that has to be the dumb I mean, that's the
only way I could put it. The dumbest thing I've
heard is him being what what what? What happened? And
the way it happened. I can understand why people would

(01:25:18):
would would say that. Um, But knowing him personally the
way I do and the way you do, it's not
indictive of the kind of man he is. It doesn't
represent him. Um, it doesn't suite him. But you know,
E turn and TV. You know, white Americacs and African
Americans acting in the volatile manner like that. You know
it's gonna it's gonna's gonna raise some eyebrows, you know.

(01:25:42):
And he's going with you to Harvard Business School tomorrow,
he'll be he'll be with us on Saturday too for
my softball and you're going all over the place. Marian's
pretty good on Twitter. Two very good on Twitter. Well,
he went off, he dropped off the Twitter map for
about a year. He topped out, yeah for you, but
he's back now. And have you seen Draft Day? Did

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you see his performance in Draft Day? No? I didn't.
How do you do? It was very Ray Alan esque?
I would you know? Yes? I thought it was really good.
He was really really good. And and I'm sure it
freaks the heck out of Texans fans when he's wearing
a Browns uniform at the end. That is something else.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, see maybe here's what you do.

(01:26:25):
You tell Arian, uh you liked it? Go to his
acting coach and get on the final season of Boardwalk Empire.
You know what they actually reached out to me, I
want to do? Are you serious? Yeah? Are you going
to do it? You know what? Like, I've had a
lot of opportunities to do to do that stuff, but
in I just no, my window of opportunities to be

(01:26:49):
great at what I do is so finally fine night.
I just want to make sure that I'm doing everything
I can to maximize my potential right now. I feel
like those opportunities potentially still be there once I'm done.
You know, dancing with the Starry've asked me three or
four years in a row to do, and I just,
you know, I'm just I just don't want to. I
don't want my teammates, you know. I think that I'm

(01:27:11):
not fully invested in what we're trying to accomplish. You know. Interesting,
So you think just even taking the day to go
to l A to be chalky white sentiment or wherever
they shoot it, maybe in New Jersey, that that would
be that that takes your eye off the ball of
what you're trying to accomplish on the football field. Um,
in some circles, it could be viewed that way, it

(01:27:33):
could be viewed that way. You're a good man, Lara Fitzgerald.
You're a good man. You're a good man. I found
such a good man. You come out to the event
this Saturday. You have nothing, Larry. I've got the schedule release.
I got a schedule release. I got a schedule release
coming up, and any day I got, I got three kids,
I got. I mean, let me, let me, let me

(01:27:55):
see what I could do. I'll see what I can do.
That's that's fair, that's fair. I will can live with that.
I'll see what I can do all right, and I'll
reach out if I can do anything. All right, that
sounds good? All right, Larry, you take care of alwa
the pleasure. Thanks for having me. No, you bet anytime, alright, anytime,
you bet. That's the one and only Larry Fitzgerald on
the Rich Eyes and Podcast. Larry Fitzgerald Everybody. The one

(01:28:19):
and the only very NFC West feeling edition of this
show got Joel up to date on what the Rams
might do in the draft with less need. We got
Larry Fitzgerald on the on the program if we have
good stuff, I guess we have the third and fourth
team of the NFC West. Which of the Seahawks or Niners?
Which are those two teams potentially don't make the playoffs

(01:28:40):
because they get by one of these teams? Why, just
because you know Alden Smith but one of them, I
guess TMZ got a great, great, uh nameless quote from
a and you know, a law enforcement officer from l
a X when they well know, they asked, they asked,

(01:29:02):
you know why, isn't all they found out that Aldon
Smith was not on a no fly zone. Not what
it's not on a no fly list. After being arrested
at the airport for threatening to have a bomb, and
the answer from the law enforcement officers, quoted by TMZ
was the no fly list is for terrorists, not for idiots. Wow.

(01:29:27):
I don't know if that is the reason why they're
not going to make the playoffs. Chris Brockman, you know
there's no way that that. There's no way, no way,
no way you're telling me the Footy and Honors are

(01:29:48):
not making the playoffs after making the NFC Championship game
three years in a row. I'm gonna say it, and
then that way in January we can play it back
for when Crabtree comes by, right because because obviously he's
going to have a lot of free time, we gotta
get we gotta get crab free back in here. Just
to ask the follow up question of did you well?

(01:30:10):
Did you? That was one of my favorite parts, The
follow up question that was us where rock and yells
Jerry Race he was. That was all the validation I needed. Alright.
Housekeeping um last year at the mock draft that you
produced so expertly for NFL medium Um, Chris law we

(01:30:33):
had uh you you conducted a rehearsal in in in
the mock draft room, which I assume is in the
same place, same room this year. It's the command center
from which from which real time NFC NFL um officiated
replay calls will be making made from right the NFL,

(01:30:55):
I said, that's so terribly See it's the Art McNally
Officiating Command Center. Yes, newly named the Art McNally Officiating
Command Center. So yeah, real time Sunday, where where the
top zebras of the National Football League watch all the
games on their DVRs, not their tvOS, And and and
from from which actual replay calls will be made this

(01:31:16):
year or help helping replay calls get made. Gotta parse
it properly. So last year to get all those shots down,
you asked mirror mortals, mirror podcast listeners, the people that
make this show what it is to come in and
be standings. They were standings. Are you gonna do that again?
We're gonna do it again. Yeah, they were standings for you,

(01:31:38):
for Marshall, for Michael Irvin, for Billick, mooch Dmisick. I
played mayok last year. And who who did Andrew's side
bottom play Melissa's stark? I think Andrew's side bottom Stark.
He was a big hit at the at the rehearsal
end on Twitter. Subsequently, he got a shot out from
you because I mean, anybody whose names side bottom the

(01:31:59):
greatest thing. I gotta I gotta say this. Um, I'm
gonna say this on Twitter. One of my colleagues, well,
I follow I love this person, but they like, uh,
frequently retweeting compliments that they get somebody. That person this
today retweeted a compliments sent their way. The handle was

(01:32:24):
at okay, oh that's great. They just blindly retweeted that.
I showed it to Susie. She's like, you gotta, you gotta,
you gotta say something. Can we call out this person?
I don't want to because I love this person so much,

(01:32:45):
but in a way I may have just done so
by revealing. I'm just gonna search that on Twitter and
find out. I had to start turning off retweets from
people because all of the just retweeting of the great
job I retweeted on today. I didn't retweet that, but
I did tweet out the fact that Mr October Reggie
is on Twitter, and I use my childhood idot. I

(01:33:08):
go there and he's following me and somebody wrote back,
humble brag, I might nothing humble about it. And you
know what he's You know, Reggie Jackson's avatars of him
in a Pittsburgh Steelers hat. Really Yeah, I looked at
the avatar. I'm like, that doesn't look like the interlocking
n Y on his cap en. I call me, he's
wearing a Steeler's lid. Is there a way to get

(01:33:30):
him on damn straight? There is because we have to
ask him, as one of my other Twitter followers suggestive,
we have to ask him if he remembers saying he
must kill the queen in a stupor, in an guess,
in a hip hypnotic stage in Dodger Stadium, trying to

(01:33:51):
kill the queen, brought to the game by Ricardo Montalban
and saved by Enrico Palazzo. Come on, are we about
to mention the other famous athlete in that movie? Oh,
Jake j Johnstone, Frank Man. Oh? Yeah, the and if

(01:34:12):
you remember the I think the same murderers. Row of
announcers that they had calling the game was mel Allen,
Dick's Dick and Berg. I think Dick Vital was in
the booth. They were all calling the game. I think
McCarver was up there. Come on, McCarver was definitely in that.
Oh yeah, I must kill the queen. Well, any we're

(01:34:33):
totally sidetracked. How can people be this year's Andrew's side bottom? Yeah?
Actually last year what we did was, UM, just tweet
us with the hashtag or tweet me if you want,
with the hashtag r EP mock draft. You have to
be in the New York area. We're obviously not trappling
anyone in. You have to be available. We're gonna do what.
You have to be at a certain age too, right, Yeah,
you gotta be eighteen year older. Um, and then you

(01:34:54):
have to have your calendar free for about four hours.
But you'll get to come to the league headquarters. What
day would they need to have the calendar for? Monday?
May five? When you rehearsal, approximate time is going to
be about noon to three o'clock. Um, but you'll get
to see the officiating command center. Um. Last year, Rich
was in the buildings. Are you eligible to do it?
If you did it last year? Um? Can you be? Can?

(01:35:16):
Can you can you be? Um? Is there a legacy?
Can you be a can you be a legacy. This
is a good question. Can you go Can you go
back to back side bottom? Is a delta house? Is
like delta house, wretch. It's it's that's your call. What
do you it's not? It is your mock draft. I

(01:35:36):
was quite pleased with the eight standings we had last year.
So if they're still in the New York area and
wanna want to come on, you know, tweet us. I
think I did it. I did podcast roulette last year
and just picked eight at random. That way, it wasn't
there's no favoritism, nothing like that. I might have picked
the side bottom out of the hat. Yeah. Well, speaking
of which, I just pulled this up. You might hear
an outlook go off, but this is you working side

(01:35:58):
bottom in to the draft last year. I forgot this
was your out bump and you worked in board side bottom.
Looks like they have picked up. They've had a Smorgar's
board of picks, the San Francisco forty niners, and they
have now apparently traded up to select another player as

(01:36:20):
the two quarterbacks Matt Barkley and Ryan Nassa are in
danger of hitting side bottom. Matt Barkley and Ryan Nassa
as we are through hopefully. Uh well, I might have.
I might have. I might have thrown myself off my
game trying to get both of those, like trying to

(01:36:42):
get side bottom. It's actually just shows you you just
gotta pace yourself when your side bottoming. This was back
when actually this was and this was before DP had
you got had you work in phrases into the Thursday.
Let me tell you something, this is not my first rodeo,
and Dan and I have been working stuff in not

(01:37:04):
only for each other but for our friends since Bill
Clinton was in office, and for Dan, I'm sure it
was way before that. This is a time honored tradition.
It's almost better when it's not public knowledge and it's
you and a couple of your boys and you're just
doing it for them. That's just that's always so good.
But yeah, tweet us with the r ap mock draft,
and you gotta be in New York and you gotta

(01:37:25):
be committed to come because we will need you if
you're doing it. So it'll be fun. Though then when
you watch the show. The show airs Tuesday night, nine
p m easterrom NFL Network. It's a ninety minute show,
so it's fun it's when Brian Billick as the first pick.
Brian Billick picks number one, number two, and then I
select Johnny Manziel number three as your Jacksonville Jaguar, the

(01:37:46):
first round choice. We need about a thirty second lead
up to your pick, though, Rich, to make sure we
get everything worked in. We got it. Oh no, I'm
go dude, Will, I'll put lipstick on the pick. Alright,
I know how to I know how to filibuster philibuster. Alright,
fair enough, I got you seated. You're next to Charles,
You're in between Charles and Mark. Too much information, too

(01:38:06):
much information, too much information? Now, I just know you
just want to show up. What's Melissa's starks? Were all
gonna be Melissa? I think might might be a phone
of friend in for mooch. What does that mean? Might
get some advice from her? Her schedule, she'll pop in
show she's gonna be there for a meeting. You guys
have a big production meeting for draft. That Charlie Yukon's

(01:38:28):
right immediately follow Let me tell you my philosophy on
this draft meeting. Here's my people. Ask me how do
I prepare for the draft? I say, there's two things.
Number one is I just do my my general job.
Back when I was doing total access every day, it
was also a lot easier. But you know, I'm every day,
I'm reading stuff, I'm looking at stuff. I'm I'm doing

(01:38:50):
radio ineverviews or whatever. This podcast clearly all right, So
I'm I'm well versed. I call the combine every single
minute of the combine. I see every single kid at
the Combine with my own two eyes. I watch college
football on Saturdays. I'm I'm as prepared in that regard
as I possibly can. I get great stuff from the

(01:39:12):
research department that I I pound that that book the
minute they give it to me, which I think I've
probably got it this coming this Friday, right, Okay, So
that gives me darn near a weekend and a half
to to absorb it. That's one thing. Number two is
I concerned myself greatly and pray every night for the

(01:39:32):
health of Mike Mayock. Those are my two ways that
I prepared for this draft. Okay, smart have you ever
seen this sting? You guys never saw the sting? You
know what? That was actually on this weekend and I
dv ard it. But I had missed the first ten
I missed the first ten minutes? Can I can I

(01:39:56):
watch it? I still have it on, but can I
miss minutes first ten minutes? For said to go ahead
and do you uh? It's Paul Newman and Robert It
is number one all time? Okay, where the I'm not
gonna tell too many tales out of school to people
who haven't seen it. But Robert Redford plays a character
Johnny Hooker, and Paul Newman is Henry Gondorf, and Johnny

(01:40:20):
Hooker is a younger guy and Gondorf's the old hand,
but they need the younger guy to help pull off
the sting that they're trying to pull off on the
Robert Shaw character, and Gondorf has somebody looking after Johnny Hooker,
and that person who's looking after him the day of
the sting walks in to the side of the sting

(01:40:43):
and when Paul Newman Henry Gondorf sees that guy, he
gets all nervous because why are you here? You're supposed
to be looking after Johnny Hooker, And then Johnny Hooker
walks in behind him, and the look of relief on
Henry Gondorf's face is palpable because hookers there for the
big day for the sting. That's the look on my

(01:41:03):
face that I have when Mike Mayock walks through the
door of Radio City Music Hall on the first day
of the draft. He's a beast. Okay, so meeting or not,
it's gonna to me. I'll tell you how the meeting
is gonna go. Meeting is gonna go. This is what
we need to do. This is where you have to
be at a certain time. This is where the show
is gonna begin. All that information that we get, and

(01:41:27):
then it's gonna be Mike, what do you think is
gonna happen? Mike will talk for ten or fifteen minutes.
Charles Davis will give his two cents, Daniel Jeremiah will
give his two cents, Brian Billick will give his two cents.
Mutch will take off his glasses and start telling about
the moment that Matt Millen screwed him over. No, but seen,

(01:41:49):
I've seen, I've seen these all of these things, and
we're gonna kick the ideas around. We're gonna get the
juices flowing, which is clearly what the producers want and
because and then we'll go down the rundown of what
the pre show is going to be. And then when
the Texans are put on the clock, it's time. It's
got on and you just have to read and react

(01:42:11):
and that's part of that's that's some of the best
stuff about the draft is the reactions to what's happening,
the natural reactions that's gonna be. That's gonna be so good.
That's all bad. I can't I mean, is it really
too weeks? It's sixteen days from this taping Mayock and
sack it. We gotta get Mayok on that show. Yeah,

(01:42:31):
he's tracked seven teams next week before. That's that's what
the good news is. Rich there will be no sitting
around for the filming of Draft Day this year. And uh,
how how embarrassed was I? Your chair went back, your

(01:42:51):
head went down to the table. It was great. He
brought it up in a fun way too. That was fun.
Not my funniest MO would not my finest moment, I'll
be honest, all right. I want to thank uh less
need artist Twyman of the Rams helping with that, and
of course always enjoy hearing from Cara Henderson sneed to

(01:43:16):
give me a little uh idea? Yeah, oh yeah, I
always got to hear from the spouse. You have to
he was talking Duke up um and want to thank
uh Stacy Garcia forgetting Larry on the horn. Yes, and
go to Larry Fitzgerald dot com for more information if
you're in the Scottsdale area. I want to take part

(01:43:38):
in this charity softball extravagance and Bob Saget next week.
We're hoping to pair him up with Mike Mayos, not
in the same studio at the same time. That would
be explosive. That would be great. Holy Ca. I don't know.

(01:43:59):
It would definitely not. I don't think Mike would just
like what is going on? International shoutout? Rich, Yes, Darrell,
Daryll Cooling. We haven't done one in a while. Daryl Cooling,
I figured this was appropriate, he says, loving the podcast
getting us through this long off season. I think it's
time for an Australian shout out. Thanks Darrell, appreciate it.

(01:44:21):
And guess what, just as we're getting to close the podcast,
we get the information in the confirmations here. It's on
schedule release Wednesday, eight d m Eastern on NFL Network.
Three hours of you hosting in a Beard quick prediction
quick prediction Thursday Night kick off? Who is it? Packers
at Seahawks? You think, I don't think there's any Shaws.

(01:44:44):
You cannot serve the fileme in yawn as the appetizer.
We cannot. You cannot do it Broncos Seahawks because because
because NBC is gonna get one of those on a
Sunday night and Fox is going to get the other one.
Any chance that you get cold feet and shaved the beard,
no of the show, any chance Susie talks to you
out of the beer. The reason why the beard still
exists is because my wife likes it. Kid one another

(01:45:08):
beards are in all right. So we didn't close the
show and then have our schedule Shenanigans dated. We actually
got to sneak this one in, so the schedule show
is on excellent for tomorrow for for tomorrow night, Wednesday,
twenty three of April, we will find out that. That

(01:45:31):
is my prediction, because they're not gonna put Denver at
Seattle after how poorly that super Bowl was contested. They're
not going to start that one that right, I'm not
going to do that. That reeks of a week eight.
Week nine My prediction for the first Sunday Night NBC game.

(01:45:52):
I think they can't resist putting Peyton Manning on Sunday
night to start. Yeah, and I don't have they'll go Division.
Let's say Chargers Chiefs. I'm gonna go. I believe I'm
not mistaken. Does Indianapolis go there? I'm trying to see
they definitely play each other because they both finished first.

(01:46:15):
If Indie goes to Denver, that's my prediction. Luck at
Manning first Sunday night of the year. That's a nice
juicy fat Sunday night steak and Aaron Rodgers and the
Packers at Seattle kick it off. That's gonna be my
prediction because I think the NFC East goes there too.
You could send the Cowboys there. That could start it

(01:46:36):
off definitely. Last year, right, the highest scoring game in
the season, well against Denver, No, no, it's Seattle. You
could saying, I think Dallas goes there the Giant They're
not going to stick the Giants, And that was one
of the worst games of the year last year was
when Seattle just absolutely that. That was what they put

(01:46:57):
up a stat I think at halftime of the Super Bowl,
the what Seattle was in its previous six quarters. It
met live stadium. It was a it boat raced a
boat race. Term do we know if Indianapolis is going
there or not? I'm trying to find the home home.
I can do that in two seconds. Broncos two thousand

(01:47:18):
fourteen schedule opponents. Here we go, future opponents, opponents finalized.
Here we go. The Broncos are uh. The Broncos have
the Colts at home. They got the Niners at home? Too.
Hardball at Denver wouldn't be a bad way to start at.
Also save that, well, the one for a little later on,

(01:47:42):
for a little I don't know. I think Luck, Luck
and Manning starting off on a Sunday night's gonna be
too much for for the league to resist. With the
Cowboys on Thursday, ratings unbelievable. All right, boys, sit on,
Let's do it two weeks rightly, I think, finally, Wait,
we got something to talk about, like a forty days
from the planks. Let's talk about more about your bowling
mishaps after eating sausage. Wait a minute, what's more interesting.

(01:48:07):
We'll stick to football alright at Chris Law at Chris Brock.
When I'm at rich Eyesen for at the Eisen podcast
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