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January 17, 2025 • 15 mins

Highlights from Peter's reporting this week on Good Morning Football. Peter asks if Justin Herbert is truly an elite QB, do the Rams have anything left after their win in Minnesota, and what should we expect in the upcoming showdown between Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
We stop with the Justin Herbert fan fiction every year.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I know, I'm sorry, and Chargers fans, you're gonna get
to be.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Like, we can't just group him into that Big.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Four yet, we can't with Lamar and Burrow and Mahomes
and Allen. You gotta win a playoff game. You have
to show up for a playoff game. All regular season.
We raved about Herbert. Why because he threw three interceptions
all regular season.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Let's see him.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Let's see the three Justin Herbert interceptions. This was against
the Panthers, rolling right across his body.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Great pick there by j. C. Horn. That's gonna happen,
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Here a play action against the Bucks, throws it off
his back.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's gonna happen. Jamel Dean, get some fine.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
The third interception was against the Broncos in a game
they won on Thursday night, and outstanding interception there. And
that was the it for the whole regular season. Three
interceptions a whole year for Justin Herbert, and we're trying
to force him into that conversation with the Big four.
We get to the playoff game. Let's get that little
ticker going. It might as well one.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Okay, off his back foot, across his body. That was one.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
This is two overthrows mcconkin, Johnny on the spot right there,
and we know.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
What happened after that. Point three.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
So now we're at three and maybe you could blame
Dizsley on that. All right, fine, four interceptions in this game.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
He threw more interceptions in this.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Game than he did all season long in seventeen starts.
We just started the show talking about how Jaden Daniels
saved his best for last and in the postseason didn't
waiver and was like, I will rise to the occasion,
and Herbert didn't. And now he's zero and two and
after five years not having.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
A playoff win. I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I can't put him in that conversation with Burrow Lamar
and of course with Maholmes and Allen and I know
that sounds mean, and I'm piling on.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I'm not, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I think we expect it right here. He's in a
different tier right now. He's in that to a tier,
and he's in that tier of those other guys that
haven't had that playoff success. Three interceptions all year. Four
interceptions in a playoff game gave all the credits to
Houston if we want, and their Houston defense was great.
I would have liked to have seen Justin Herbert elevate
his game. Jayden Daniels is already one of those dudes.
I'm putting him in that conversation. Game is on the line,

(02:44):
two minutes left. You put the ball in his hand.
He's going to put you in position to score. That
final drive was awesome. We know all the back and
forth how they got the ball, but they still have
to move the ball the entire length of the field
and get the into field goal position. And here's Jayden
Daniels just operating. And he did it all season long.
For this guy to be a rookie doing this on
this stage under the lights. In the final game of

(03:06):
the weekend was Miraculos and it was third down passes
to Eckler. On this one, it was the Elijah Kansey
play here where Kansey is like the next Aaron Donald
trying to crosch him and he just outdoes him.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Here. He went twenty four of thirty five.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
For two hundred and sixty eight yards in his playoff debut.
The Commanders had no punts on the road in a
playoff game on the lights, and no turnovers on the
road in a playoff game under the lights. He becomes
the first rookie quarterback to win on the road since
twenty twelve in a playoff game, and it becomes the
first rookie quarterback to win on the road against a

(03:45):
non rookie quarterback in Baker Mayfield since two thousand and
nine when Mark Sanchez beat Philip Rivers in San.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Diego in a playoff game.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Jaden Daniels gets the ball and it's within a score
in the final minute.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
He did it all season long. Guys.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
They won six different games in the final minute of
regulation or to walk off in overtime during the season.
And then Jaden Daniels does it again. He had to
get him all the way downfield and he did it.
They're going to go play Detroit, and I don't think
they know anything other than, hey, we can go do this,
because that's what they've done all season long. Everybody stepped

(04:24):
up and we'll talk about the role players throughout, but
in the biggest moment of the biggest game, it was
Jaden Daniels, who of course came through because that's what
he's done all season long. What a wonderful performance in
the biggest of moments for that guy. I picked the
Packers to go to the super Bowl before the season.
I got this streak that I talked and patted myself
a back. I didn't mention it all last week. I

(04:44):
had zero confidence that the Packers were going to go
into Philly. And I'll tell you what, in the first
second of the game, when you have your part, your
kick returner, Nixon get absolutely blown up, and I thought
maybe they actually retained the ball.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
I don't know the rules on this thing. They gave
it to Philly.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
That's about as bad an omen for the rest of
the game. That it only got worse from there. You
never felt like Green Bay had a shot against this
Philly defense. They hung Clode, but that Philly was like,
you know what, anytime we need a big play, they
got it.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
The interceptions were so huge last night.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Anytime there was momentum or a window, it felt like
Philadelphia had a defensive back, whether it be Darius Slay
or a linebacker, pick off the play and just stop everything.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Zach Bond was everywhere.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
I tweeted it last night like he was everywhere, and
he was everything you could want because he was making
special teams plays. But time and time again, it was
just the Philadelphia defense putting an end to this. And
I'll say this, when they needed Jordan Love to make
a play down the stretch to keep this alive. The
three interception time, I thought the most egregious pass was
with the season on the line. Jordan Love goes back

(05:47):
on a fourth down and just airmails it to Malie
Keith and he has to catch it and his foot
is out of bound.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Jordan Love, it was a nightmare for him yesterday.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
And that's a zero touchdown, three interception game. And in
this case, you have the season on the line, throws.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
It out of bounds.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Look, you've got the varsity and the jv and there's
no shame in being that second tier.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
The Eagles are a varsity team.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Their defense led the way, and last night the Packers
showed that they were not a Super Bowl contender. Remember,
swept by the Vikings, swept by the Lions, lost to
the Eagles Week one, and then lost to the Eagles
to book end the season. To end the year, they
weren't one of the elite teams in the NFC, as
much as I tried forcing that to happen all season life.

(06:47):
Each Monday, we declare a Coach of the Week award.
It could be a head coach, it could be a coordinator,
it could be a position coach. This week we are
going to a thirty five year old man who called.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Maybe the game of his life yesterday. That's Joe Brady.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Joe Brady gets Coach of the Week, and he did
it against one of his mentors.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
He entered the NFL years ago as.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
A quality control coach for the New Orleans Saints, learning
under Sean Payton.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
He took a long road, including.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
An offensive coordinator gig with LSU, where he was Joe Burrow,
Justin Jefferson and Jamaar Chase's offensive coordinator when they won
the national title. All these years later, he's now in
his second season as offensive coordinator of the Bills, and
they put on an offensive performance that offensive masterminds with
blush at Look at that second column. There seventy two plays,

(07:39):
twenty six pers downs, and then the biggest number that
bottom row ball control forty one minutes of possession in
a playoff game.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
That's unheard of. Joe Brady, thirty five.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Years old, not maybe the hottest name and head coaching
circles right now.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I don't know why I'm not running these searches. Maybe
someone should.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Pick up the phone and talk about it and talk
to him.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
We'll see as the rest of the playoffs go on.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Joe Brady as masterful and offensive performance and OC had
this week, you get the game Ball and the Coach
of the Week award.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Tak One Barkley.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
He went for three hundred yards from scrimmage and I
think he just scored another touchdown from that Week twelve game,
I do. I think he just scored again. It was
unbelievable what he did. And I was in the building.
It was one of those days where I was there
on Sunday and then came to Good Morning Football on
Monday morning, and I have to say, around the third quarter,
you start looking around. When the first play of the
third quarter, Saquon goes, Now this thing's over and there's

(08:36):
still twenty five thirty minutes left to do?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
What do we do to finish up the evening?

Speaker 3 (08:40):
It was that much of a blowout, and yet the
Rams look like they are different than they were, then
that's not my concern.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's not so.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Much that Saquon's going to be doing backwards jumps over them.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
My concern is.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
That the Rams just gave out every piece of emotional
energy you possibly could have on a Monday night and
in seventy two hours shipped everybody to Arizona. They recreated
that field to make it feel like so far, their
fans showed up and they got the win, and now
on a short week they've got to go across the
country in an early window to play Philly. Where, by

(09:12):
the way, for all the great Stafford and McVay wins,
they've never played a road playoff game in the cold together.
In fact, McVeigh has only had one road playoff game
outside and it was with Jared Goff and it was
in Green Bay in twenty twenty one at Lambeau during
the COVID season.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
And this was not.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Really a game either. The Packers took care of business,
so I'm trying to spin it. Ever, I don't think
a Week twelve game in Saquon going for three hundred
is keeping Jared Versus and Brandon Fisk up all night
I do wonder if the lack of experience and the
lack of cold weather experience is going to.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Play a role. If it's weird, we're talking weather talk.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
We'd go all the way back to COVID for the
last time that the Rams played an outdoor cold weather
playoff game.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
They beat Tampa outdoors. Of course, they won in Arizona
a couple of times. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I look at it this as it's a totally different
setup than Week twelve. They're not at home and they're
coming off that emotional victory and they got to go
outside into those elements. I can't stress it enough. I
don't think there's a more hostile place, and you saw
some of the videos than Philadelphia to go play a
road playoff game, And it's true, it's not just what
happens in the crowd, it's on the field.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Also. It's really difficult to.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Win there, especially especially in January when the weather and
the elements and momentum of a hot Eagles team starts
kicking out.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Well.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I mean all season long, we had this amazing debate
over Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, and it really heated
up in the final month of the season. At some
point it became divisive and it became like you had
to like stand on one side or the other, and
if you didn't, you don't have a take, and it
became negative towards you, Like, can we just relish in
what these two guys did in the wildcard round to
set this up? Lamar Jackson was amazing on Saturday night,

(10:49):
amazing with all.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
The pressure in the world. Do not screw this up.
Do not lose to a team that's beaten you so
many times before.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Do not have one of those those Lamar Jackson random
playoff just misfit performances.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
No, Lamar with that is all time best. They got
him involved early with the run, which I loved. He
ran the ball a ton and it kind of felt.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Like he was in his groove, in his rhythm, and
he was in everybody even without Zay Flowers. He saw
big plays from Rashad Bateman and Nelson Agalre.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And of course Mark Andrews got involved.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
In is say I likely had the big Stipparre like,
this game was never in doubt. The Ravens role and
Lamar was tremendous. Then you get to Sunday and the
Broncos score first, and it's like, oh gosh, it's just
really gonna happen. Yeah, and Josh Allen just says, here,
I come alan incredible spot on a beautiful game both

(11:41):
with his legs and with his arm. At no point
in the second half did you feel like this thing
was anything but a shore Bill's victory. And this pass
here is like that would be like the best pass
of a player's career. And it's almost full humpy because
Josh Allen and we are so sure of it. So
I go to these two men coming in at their
all time best right and high, and I'm just gonna

(12:03):
make a plea right now for the viewers.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Let's not try to tear the other one down this week.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Let's build this up for what it is, a great
Divisional round matchup, one of the all time best quarterback
matchups we've ever seen in divisional round, and let's enjoy it.
They're coming in and they're both playing awesome football. Both
teams look unstoppable right now. And instead of making it
Josh versus Lamar this week, maybe we just try on
for size, making it Josh and Lamar, because gosh, I

(12:29):
cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
For this game six thirty Sunday afternoons.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
And I think it's going to be the quarterbacks, I
really do, And who's gonna be the better quarterback? These
have been the best two quarterbacks we have seen all
season long, and now we're asking for one of them
to put the deafening blow to the other.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Look at this.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
This is the seventh postseason matchup we will have since
nineteen sixty where you have the number one and number
two vote getters in MVP squaring off at a playoff game.
We get it into the divisional round, not the championship, brown,
not the super Bowl, And by far, this will be
the closest vote. A lot of those votes are likety
nine votes with the Patrick Mahomes. One went to Jalen Hurts,

(13:09):
but they were one verse two. This one is going
to be a very close MVP vote and we don't
know who's gonna get it.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
So you have that in itself.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
You add in the layer of the fact that both
of these quarterbacks have great frustrations in playoff history, and
then you add in what they've done coming into this thing.
The fact that these two guys have had these seasons, these.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Incredible seasons, and only one of them.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Can advance tells me that the best quarterback.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Is going to be the one that plays in the
next round.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Jackson has won three or four versus Allen all time. Okay,
so you're like, all right, well, Lamar's good. But the
only time they played a playoff game, Josh Allen's team
absolutely took care of business against Lamar. So what matters
more the three regular season wins and the one that
happened earlier this season, or the fact they went to
Buffalo and Buffalo handled their business during that COVID season

(14:03):
in front of very few fans but sent Baltimore packing.
Very simple here, which quarterback is going to be better?
We haven't been able to declare that through nineteen weeks
of football.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
We should know after.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
This one, because I think we're going to be asking
for the very best from the two very best quarterbacks
all season long. And I think the one who takes
care of business is going to be the one who's
worthy of saying I was the better dude.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
This is.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Saquon Barkley, Derek Henry, Peter who has more pressure on
them this weekend.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I'm going with Derrick Henry.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I think this game has looked to be eleven degrees
in Buffalo on Sunday night. It's going to be cold,
it's going to be wicked. And this is where Derrick
Henry shines. This is what his game has always been.
Second half put me to sleep and being able to
do in all the conditions. And I don't think Lamar
is going to be able to light it up through
the air in these conditions. So I'm going to say
Derick Henry based on what he was brought in to do.

(14:57):
Last year, they went to the AFC Championship game and
they had one of the best running attacks in football,
and they completely abandoned the run. And the combination of
Justice Hill and Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins simply was
not enough. So they went and they spent big money
on a thirty year old running back. A lot of
people gave the side eye to this is why we

(15:17):
brought you. We love what you did for us this season,
But gosh, if we get eighteen carries for forty three yards.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
They're not winning this game.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
If we get twenty five carries for one hundred and
sixty three yards and two touchdowns, you better believe Baltimore
is moving on to the AFC Championship Round.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I think Derrick Henry.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
This is a Ravens team that has knocked on the
door so many times. They brought in their Mariano Rivera,
they brought in their closer, Sam Man.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Now it's time to close.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
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