March 14, 2025 • 17 mins
A selection of the best Peter Schrager segments from the Week of March 10th:
- Ja'Marr Chase and Bengals working on a deal
- What changed the mind of Myles Garrett?
- Giants interest in Aaron Rodgers
- Davante Adams to the Rams
- Worried about the Eagles losses?
- Steelers/Giants QB options
- Vikings with JJ McCarthy
- and Showing off in Elementary School
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
What does the Mile Garrett number now due to Jamar
Chase and his conversations with the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, Look, it just took it to another level because
Duke Tobin, who is the lead executive on these negotiations
for the Bengals at the combine, came out and he
said that Jamar Chase is going to make the most
money as a non quarterback.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
We're going to get that number there, We're going to
get that to him. And he said, well, that non
number just took a giant leap because no one saw
Miles Garrett making forty million dollars. It really all started
with Max Crosby getting a new deal on Friday, and
suddenly it was like Max Crosby's making thirty five million
a year. Now Garrett's making forty million. What do you
value Jamar Chase at Who's waited his time and it
(01:05):
is now his up oportunity to cash in. Look, I
still think the Bengals have great intentions to bring back
Chase and Higgins, both of them. I think if t
Higgins was to be on the open market, he could
make more than thirty million dollars. I think he's viewed
as a better wide receiver than DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
So all of this tells.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Me that the Bengals might be paying three guys Burrow, Chase,
and Higgins, and they might have to form the rest
of the team with forty nine guys that might not
necessarily be the best at their positions.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Or they have to draft Hella Good.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Because I don't think they're gonna have much money to
spend anywhere else.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Trey Hendrickson, great player, he wasn't going.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
To be able to be a part of his budget.
Of all these teams that seem to just avoid the
salary cap and figure out ways to make it work,
the Bengals waiting to pay Jamar Chase this late may
have burned themselves a bit because now you've got Chase
and Higgins, and the salary cap has expanded to this
amount of money.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
They've got to find a way to pay both those guys.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
If they had done it one year ago, two years ago,
they might have been in a better position right now.
But it looks like Chas and Higgins are their top
priorities and their numbers might have jumped leaps and bounds
even the last.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Forty eight hours, we would appreciate it. Yesterday, Miles Garrett
and I was like, guys, it was a lot of money.
Figured it out and the money.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
It said, we get this tree from like Mary kay Cabin,
who's the local.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
We were like that. She spoke to the.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Agent and Miles has had a change of heart, a
change of heart about his like four weeks ago. And
not to pile on here, but he was on Eisen's
show on Roku. He says, I don't care about the money.
I just want to win a championship. I just want
people to know that it's not about money. It's not
about me.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Being the highest quarterback. It's not about me having a
huge contract. But like you could walk go.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Here's the other thing I really, in hindsight, respect the
heck out of the Browns owner Jimmy Haslm not sitting.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Down and talking with him last year.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Last week, Miles Garrett was asked for a meeting and
Jimmy Haslm was like, now you don't get a meeting.
You're under contract for two more years and it could
be four more years. We want to franchise tag. You
deal with Andrew Berry, our GM deal with him.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Because the same.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Folks that cry about owners meddling with team affairs, why
is the owner involved the ownership let.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
The g Why is the owner gettingvolve? Why I is
Jarret Jonah vault? Were the same.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
People like, how does the owner not meet with Miles Garrett? Well,
the owner's like, no, you're in the contract for two
more years.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Play at your contract.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You And at the end of the day, Miles Garrett
did not have a no trade clause, so they could
have traded him right there. They could have traded him
to Jacksonville. Miles Garrett could be a Jacksonville Jaguar this morning.
And I'm not saying that's like the pine Barons of
the NFL are like, but he could.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
They could have traded him anywhere.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You want to be traded, your giant, you're a jet,
you want to be traded. You're gonna You're gonna go
now be you know you're a New Orleans Saint and
you don't like New Orleans, Well, sorry, we traded you.
Go let them figure out the tent. So at the
end of the day, he gets paid. But like that
whole song and dance in New Orleans. It doesn't rub
me wrong. It's just what a bunch of wasted airwaves
and wasted segments on our show when the truth of
the matter was you had to change your heart and
forty million dollars in the highest non paid quarterback ever
(04:06):
could do that. Congratulations. But now the salary cap is
going all to you, and we hopefully can build a
champion around New York Giants our backyard right here. The Giants,
of course, did this Saquon Barkley move last year, not
signing him back, saying hey go quick, we're gonna save
our money. We're gonna build an offensive line, and then
the quarterback play was atrocious last year. There is a
(04:27):
giant void of that position in there is no sure thing. Look,
I've reported this, I said at the combine, I will
double down. Aaron Rodgers is definitely a possibility, as silly
as that sounds, oxymoron wise, definitely a possibility in New York.
That is a guy that they have zeroed in on
in a lot of ways. But Rogers's gonna have options.
Rogers's gonna have options in that he can wait his
(04:48):
time out. See what place is filled what carousel seat
has still opened? And I do think Pittsburgh's a real possibility.
If the Giants don't bring in Rogers, Well, you look
at the draft and they have the third pick. So
can't really just snap your fingers and say I'm gonna
get cam Ward.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
He might be gone. And you can't snap your finger
and say we're gonna get shandor he might be gone.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
So you have the third pick, which puts the Giants
kind of in this wait and see mode. Are they
interested in Aaron Rodgers? Yes? Are they should in Darnald?
I don't think I see that, and I haven't heard that.
And it's more because, well, we went down the road
of having Daniel Jones on that two year deal and
it didn't work out, and we should have known we
shouldn't get Is Donald worthy of long term contract in
(05:31):
New York? I don't know if Joe Shane's gonna put
his name to Sam.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Darnold for the long term.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And then you start getting down those second and third options,
and it starts getting to Russell Wilson really quick, and
it starts getting to Mac Jones and Zach Wilson really cool,
and Carson Wentz really quick. It almost makes you say, oh, wait, Rogers, like,
do we need to go all Lennon Rodgers. It's amazing
how it went from this peculiar curiosity two weeks ago
to now being maybe their best option Aaron Rodgers and
(05:58):
the Giants to me, but if they don't land Aaron Rodgers,
it gets really really interesting and it could get really
hairy for Giants fans in the.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Next few hours. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Well, I tweeted this out last night, and I mean
it's Devanta Adams is currently in Japan.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
He's in Japan. He's traveling in the Far East right now.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
So while this was all going on, Sean McVay was
facetiming and calling him while he was in Japan sight
seeing and going to Japan for the first time.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
So Davante a.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Free agent because of the way the Jets let this
thing go and they said, Okay, you're out, and that.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Means he could actually sign before.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
The free agency wave and McVeigh was in full recruitment mode.
If you haven't seen it, it's something to behold. He's
done it before in his career, and he did it
when he activates like he's like Nick Saban and Kirby
smart and you name it Urban Meyer.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
When the Ohio State days.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
All welled into one, Belichick and Bill Belichick not this
is it. So you know Adams, this is another stop
on the tour. But for the Rams, you know Cooper
Cup and Pooka Nakool but coming to kind of be
the same type of wide receiver and that they're these
big bodied, strong handed like Devon Dam's a totally different one.
(07:07):
They signed to to at Well for a one year,
ten million dollar deal. If we'll roll their eyes, it's
like you want two. Just wait to see the numbers
that are thrown out the next couple of days. To
to at Well at ten million dollars is not going
to seem like it's going to blow your hair back
because the salary cap went crazy this last couple of weeks,
so they have money to spend. So they have almost
a starting five like a basketball team.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
They have different heights and different roles.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And you got your point guard in two two, and
then you got your long range guy in Davonte, and then.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
You got your.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Underneath guy and Tukah's like they've got different body types,
different wide receiver skills. And McVeigh was full on recruiting
a man in Japan all week and he got his guys,
So pretty cool story about Sometimes it's a little different
than just talking the GM talking to the agent.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Sometimes the head coach going over to the Far.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
East thirty million dollars, which is a lot of money
for DK Metcalf to be making congratulations to him. He
gets traded and he goes to a place that's perennially
in the playoffs. I am fascinated at two questions. One,
who is the quarterback throwing him the ball? We should
find that out hopefully later today or tomorrow. And two
is George Pickens in that wide receivers room as well?
(08:10):
Because those are two fiery personalities.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
And right now they are at Arthur Smith and.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Zach Aziani, who's the wide receivers coach might be having
to massage some egos and making sure that these guys
both get the ball. But gosh, who is the quarterback?
And I go through it with Pittsburgh right now, because
I said that was the most burning question in my
mind last week, what we were talking about heading into the offseason,
which team are you most fascinating? I said, The Steelers
(08:36):
have been trying to get a wide receiver one.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
For many years, they.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Went after Brandon Ayuk, they couldn't get them. They went
after others. In the last couple of years they couldn't
get them. They finally get DK Metcalf and the money.
Look the salary cap. It was increased by a X
amount of dollars. The money is almost funny money at
this point. I can't compare it to previous years because
it's gone up so much in the last couple of years,
where this might just be the going rate for a
(09:00):
star wide receiver. And once we see what Jamar Chase gets,
it'll blow this out of the water.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
What we see at T. Higgins gets by bloat this
out of the water.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
So I am fascinated to see because right now the
way I see the dominoes.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
You've heard it, and I said it last week or
two weeks.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Ago from the combine, Justin Fields is who Pittsburgh wants. However,
Justin Field's going to have a market. So if Justin
Fields does not come back to Pittsburgh, is Pittsburgh a
sneaky place for Sam Donald? And is that Sam Donald throwing.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
DK Metcalf passes.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
And then I'll give you a third name. And the
ring almost like the Royal Rumble coming in. Here is
Aaron Rodgers throwing a DK Metcalf next year? Like that
is why as much as we took care of business
over the weekend, there are still so many unanswered questions.
And we have Aaron Rodgers throwing to George Pickens and
DK Metcalf with Mike Tomlin on the sideline, like, sign
me up. That's a really interesting team. A lot of
(09:53):
personalities to navigate there and a lot of egos to massage.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
But DK Metcal's a steel.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I don't know who's throwing on the bay yet. We
spent so many years complaining and losing sleep over the
(10:18):
lack of talent at the Philadelphia Eagles defensive backfield.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Well they finally built that thing up.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And now it's like hey, Cooper Dejen and Reid Blank
and Ship and Queenyon Mitchell, like the show is yours.
There's a lot on their shoulders right now. That's real
veteran leadership, and I value veteran leadership. I think you
look at what that offensive line does. They bring in
new talent and they groom them and then it's a
defensive backfield though that is an Achilles Heel for the
Eagles for many years. They finally seem like they nailed
(10:45):
it last year, and they got these two rookies who
played so well. That's a big responsibility on their shoulders.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
But that is what happens with the spoils of winning.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
You at some point are going to have to pay
Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter, and you're gonna have to
pay Nolan Smith and Nakobe Dean and the rest of them,
just like they paid Zach Bond to keep him there.
So we say farewell to four very very important veteran
players on this team, and I guess we have to
move on and see But.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I don't know. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So what do you make of this, the fact that
Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson are in the same room together.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I would just say it's two guys who are looking
to salvage their careers at such young ages. Like I
didn't realize Daniel Jones was Joe Montana the way the
feeding Frenzy was in the media the last couple of weeks, Like, Wow,
Daniel Jones is a market He's gonna be Hey, he's
making fourteen.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Million a year that's real money.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And then Anthony Richardson, everyone's writing them off in Indianapolis.
And I don't follow that team closely enough to know
the inner workings. But when you have a quarterback who's
going to his third year and they're already signing someone
else for fourteen million dollars, it tells me that the
writing's on the wall and that maybe they didn't love
what you had brought to the table the last two years.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Not a great sign for Richardson. And I'm not a.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Huge Daniel Jones is gonna We're going to shock the world.
So to me, I'm kind of nonplussed by this, and
I hate being so negative, but like, that is a
good team with a good running back, and that is
a good team with a solid defense. Quarterback's been the
missing piece. At least they're addressing it. Chris Ballard's and
through this carousel ride of Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan
and Philip Rivers and now we're on Daniel Jones. I
(12:13):
don't have a ton of confidence that this is going
to get them to a super Bowl. Rogers we know
is going somewhere, and it might not just be a week.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
It might be two weeks, three weeks, four weeks.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
If you think you know the answer to what Aaron
Rodgers's timetable is, you know more than the Steelers and
the Giants too, because I've spoken with teeth to sources
on both sides and everyone's kind of got that shrug
emoji were William we're seeing give me a space, let
him decide.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Now, we don't know the.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Numbers, we don't know what's been offered exactly, but we
do know there's been contact treat his representatives and both
of those teams.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Rogers.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Meanwhile, I'm told his quote out west right now, that's
where he is. So he's not in Chile, he's not
in Peru, He's.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Not in wherever he goes for what do they even
call it? An enigma?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
His medicine, Yes, medicine in the generals, medicine that for
him though West lighte mean like West Asia.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Descinating to me is.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
That he's got these two franchises that are just woven
in the cloth of NFL history. You're talking about two
blue chip franchises with two blue chip families, and they're
waiting on Rogers and this is just kind of what
the deal's going to be it is going to be
on Aaron's terms where he decides to go, and we're
not one hundred percent sure he's going to either yet.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
So Rogers, for.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
All the hoopla about how terrible he was with the
Jets and how awful teammate he is, to haven't You've
got two really strong, really historical franchises waiting on a
forty one year old quarterback coming off two years from
an achilles injury, and I do think he's their number
one option in both of those places. It's funny because
the Steelers, it's like, all right, if we don't get
(13:51):
Aaron Rodgers, we could go back to Russell Wilson, which
we didn't court him really he was our quarterback, and
we're kind of going after someone else. But hopefully DK
Metcalf's an old teammate, they get along and we can
make this right. We can put the toothpaste back in
the tube, or maybe we draft someone in the twentieth
or we get someone in the second rounds don't get
Aaron Rodgers get the third overall pick, and it's like,
are we drafting Shador? Are we drafting Shador? And then
(14:12):
it gets a totally different road or are we drafting
Jackson Dart third overall, which wouldn't be the craziest thing
if you really have no quarterback and you like Dart
more than Shador Sanders. I just think for the Giants,
you know, we've made fun of the Jets for sending
Robert Salah and Joe Douglas and Woody Johnson and Christopher
Johnson to Malibu to go meet with Rogers. And there's
(14:33):
TMZ cameras who are outside the house, which was.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Is it so crazy to find out where he is
and go to him if you really want him to
be the quarterback, and maybe try to court him and
say here's what we can offer and let's talk in person. Hey, look,
the league year starts this year. Anything is on the table.
If he's a free agent. I just don't know if
it's a sweepstakes for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Who's the better recruiter right now? Is it Brian Dable,
is it Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I'd love to see this thing play out, and maybe
Rogers can control those terms.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
JJ McCarthy better be good.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
JJ McCarthy better be ready, and JJ McCarthy better be
something that they can say that's why we moved on
from Sam Donald. For look, I understand it, it's his time.
He was a top ten draft pick, and it was
in the plans that year, probably late year one, year two,
he'd get his opportunity.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
But then things happen.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
He gets injured in preseason and Sam Donald has this
incredible year where for the first seventeen weeks of the
season there may have been no more impressive quarterback considering
what we expected him to be. Donald three years, one
hundred million. Seattle, like Minnesota, could have afforded that. They
had that in their budget, they opted not to spend
(15:43):
it on that, and they opted to instead bringing guys
like Jonathan Allen and Will Fries and just.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Roll with the plan what it was all along.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Now, remember when Kracy drafted JJ McCarthy and they brought
in Sam Donald for one year, ten million. It was
because we have to pay everyone else, and we're gonna
be able to do this with a quarterback on a
rookie contract and we'll get a.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Good bridge veteran at quarterback. Well, what happened.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Darnold had this meteoric rise and was showed that he
could be that guy indoors doing it all and then
when he went outdoors, had great games in Chicago, great
games in Seattle when it mattered. I'm not sold on
JJ McCarthy because I haven't seen them. We sold in
one preseason game. Then we get that unfortunate news that
he got injured. So they're banking on this guy being
fully recovered and being able to compete, and I don't
(16:27):
know incomplete for me, We'll see TBA.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
What is the one thing that made you ecstatic and
want to run through a wall when you were in
the fifth grade.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Do you remember that first day of school when you
had the new sneakers and you were so excited to
show your friends I got new shoes. I also felt
this way when a team would have a new logo
and I would buy that shirt, like, oh my gosh,
the new Jersey Nets have changed their logo and we've
got Kendall Gill and John cala Parry let's go or
the new England Patriots. This draft drew Bledsoe and in
(16:56):
addition have these new cool jerseys that they're going to
be rolling out and they're selling it at the model's nearby.
When they did this logo change and it went from
Hugh Millin and all of a sudden we got parcels
and Bledsoe.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
It was the coolest deal.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
And every kid, no matter where you grew up, you
bought that eleven Bledsoe Jersey because it was this new, different,
cool logo. Now we talk about throwbacks, but back in
the day in fifth grade when a team rolled out
a new Remember when the Phoenix Suns brought out that
new logo and those new uniforms and Barkley was there
and it was so cool.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Ah, that was it. This is Kevin Johnson, Ray Marley.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Tom chains Fall, Big Oliver Miller in the middle. This
was what it was.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Loved it new Jersey, new logo.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Nothing cooler as a fifth grader to come into school
and start showing that stuff.
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
What does the Mile Garrett number now due to Jamar
Chase and his conversations with the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, Look, it just took it to another level because
Duke Tobin, who is the lead executive on these negotiations
for the Bengals at the combine, came out and he
said that Jamar Chase is going to make the most
money as a non quarterback.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
We're going to get that number there, We're going to
get that to him. And he said, well, that non
number just took a giant leap because no one saw
Miles Garrett making forty million dollars. It really all started
with Max Crosby getting a new deal on Friday, and
suddenly it was like Max Crosby's making thirty five million
a year. Now Garrett's making forty million. What do you
value Jamar Chase at Who's waited his time and it
(01:05):
is now his up oportunity to cash in. Look, I
still think the Bengals have great intentions to bring back
Chase and Higgins, both of them. I think if t
Higgins was to be on the open market, he could
make more than thirty million dollars. I think he's viewed
as a better wide receiver than DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
So all of this tells.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Me that the Bengals might be paying three guys Burrow, Chase,
and Higgins, and they might have to form the rest
of the team with forty nine guys that might not
necessarily be the best at their positions.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Or they have to draft Hella Good.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Because I don't think they're gonna have much money to
spend anywhere else.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Trey Hendrickson, great player, he wasn't going.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
To be able to be a part of his budget.
Of all these teams that seem to just avoid the
salary cap and figure out ways to make it work,
the Bengals waiting to pay Jamar Chase this late may
have burned themselves a bit because now you've got Chase
and Higgins, and the salary cap has expanded to this
amount of money.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
They've got to find a way to pay both those guys.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
If they had done it one year ago, two years ago,
they might have been in a better position right now.
But it looks like Chas and Higgins are their top
priorities and their numbers might have jumped leaps and bounds
even the last.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Forty eight hours, we would appreciate it. Yesterday, Miles Garrett
and I was like, guys, it was a lot of money.
Figured it out and the money.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
It said, we get this tree from like Mary kay Cabin,
who's the local.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
We were like that. She spoke to the.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Agent and Miles has had a change of heart, a
change of heart about his like four weeks ago. And
not to pile on here, but he was on Eisen's
show on Roku. He says, I don't care about the money.
I just want to win a championship. I just want
people to know that it's not about money. It's not
about me.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Being the highest quarterback. It's not about me having a
huge contract. But like you could walk go.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Here's the other thing I really, in hindsight, respect the
heck out of the Browns owner Jimmy Haslm not sitting.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Down and talking with him last year.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Last week, Miles Garrett was asked for a meeting and
Jimmy Haslm was like, now you don't get a meeting.
You're under contract for two more years and it could
be four more years. We want to franchise tag. You
deal with Andrew Berry, our GM deal with him.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Because the same.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Folks that cry about owners meddling with team affairs, why
is the owner involved the ownership let.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
The g Why is the owner gettingvolve? Why I is
Jarret Jonah vault? Were the same.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
People like, how does the owner not meet with Miles Garrett? Well,
the owner's like, no, you're in the contract for two
more years.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Play at your contract.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You And at the end of the day, Miles Garrett
did not have a no trade clause, so they could
have traded him right there. They could have traded him
to Jacksonville. Miles Garrett could be a Jacksonville Jaguar this morning.
And I'm not saying that's like the pine Barons of
the NFL are like, but he could.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
They could have traded him anywhere.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You want to be traded, your giant, you're a jet,
you want to be traded. You're gonna You're gonna go
now be you know you're a New Orleans Saint and
you don't like New Orleans, Well, sorry, we traded you.
Go let them figure out the tent. So at the
end of the day, he gets paid. But like that
whole song and dance in New Orleans. It doesn't rub
me wrong. It's just what a bunch of wasted airwaves
and wasted segments on our show when the truth of
the matter was you had to change your heart and
forty million dollars in the highest non paid quarterback ever
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could do that. Congratulations. But now the salary cap is
going all to you, and we hopefully can build a
champion around New York Giants our backyard right here. The Giants,
of course, did this Saquon Barkley move last year, not
signing him back, saying hey go quick, we're gonna save
our money. We're gonna build an offensive line, and then
the quarterback play was atrocious last year. There is a
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giant void of that position in there is no sure thing. Look,
I've reported this, I said at the combine, I will
double down. Aaron Rodgers is definitely a possibility, as silly
as that sounds, oxymoron wise, definitely a possibility in New York.
That is a guy that they have zeroed in on
in a lot of ways. But Rogers's gonna have options.
Rogers's gonna have options in that he can wait his
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time out. See what place is filled what carousel seat
has still opened? And I do think Pittsburgh's a real possibility.
If the Giants don't bring in Rogers, Well, you look
at the draft and they have the third pick. So
can't really just snap your fingers and say I'm gonna
get cam Ward.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
He might be gone. And you can't snap your finger
and say we're gonna get shandor he might be gone.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
So you have the third pick, which puts the Giants
kind of in this wait and see mode. Are they
interested in Aaron Rodgers? Yes? Are they should in Darnald?
I don't think I see that, and I haven't heard that.
And it's more because, well, we went down the road
of having Daniel Jones on that two year deal and
it didn't work out, and we should have known we
shouldn't get Is Donald worthy of long term contract in
(05:31):
New York? I don't know if Joe Shane's gonna put
his name to Sam.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Darnold for the long term.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And then you start getting down those second and third options,
and it starts getting to Russell Wilson really quick, and
it starts getting to Mac Jones and Zach Wilson really cool,
and Carson Wentz really quick. It almost makes you say, oh, wait, Rogers, like,
do we need to go all Lennon Rodgers. It's amazing
how it went from this peculiar curiosity two weeks ago
to now being maybe their best option Aaron Rodgers and
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the Giants to me, but if they don't land Aaron Rodgers,
it gets really really interesting and it could get really
hairy for Giants fans in the.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Next few hours. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Well, I tweeted this out last night, and I mean
it's Devanta Adams is currently in Japan.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
He's in Japan. He's traveling in the Far East right now.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
So while this was all going on, Sean McVay was
facetiming and calling him while he was in Japan sight
seeing and going to Japan for the first time.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
So Davante a.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Free agent because of the way the Jets let this
thing go and they said, Okay, you're out, and that.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Means he could actually sign before.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
The free agency wave and McVeigh was in full recruitment mode.
If you haven't seen it, it's something to behold. He's
done it before in his career, and he did it
when he activates like he's like Nick Saban and Kirby
smart and you name it Urban Meyer.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
When the Ohio State days.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
All welled into one, Belichick and Bill Belichick not this
is it. So you know Adams, this is another stop
on the tour. But for the Rams, you know Cooper
Cup and Pooka Nakool but coming to kind of be
the same type of wide receiver and that they're these
big bodied, strong handed like Devon Dam's a totally different one.
(07:07):
They signed to to at Well for a one year,
ten million dollar deal. If we'll roll their eyes, it's
like you want two. Just wait to see the numbers
that are thrown out the next couple of days. To
to at Well at ten million dollars is not going
to seem like it's going to blow your hair back
because the salary cap went crazy this last couple of weeks,
so they have money to spend. So they have almost
a starting five like a basketball team.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
They have different heights and different roles.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And you got your point guard in two two, and
then you got your long range guy in Davonte, and then.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
You got your.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Underneath guy and Tukah's like they've got different body types,
different wide receiver skills. And McVeigh was full on recruiting
a man in Japan all week and he got his guys,
So pretty cool story about Sometimes it's a little different
than just talking the GM talking to the agent.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Sometimes the head coach going over to the Far.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
East thirty million dollars, which is a lot of money
for DK Metcalf to be making congratulations to him. He
gets traded and he goes to a place that's perennially
in the playoffs. I am fascinated at two questions. One,
who is the quarterback throwing him the ball? We should
find that out hopefully later today or tomorrow. And two
is George Pickens in that wide receivers room as well?
(08:10):
Because those are two fiery personalities.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
And right now they are at Arthur Smith and.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Zach Aziani, who's the wide receivers coach might be having
to massage some egos and making sure that these guys
both get the ball. But gosh, who is the quarterback?
And I go through it with Pittsburgh right now, because
I said that was the most burning question in my
mind last week, what we were talking about heading into the offseason,
which team are you most fascinating? I said, The Steelers
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have been trying to get a wide receiver one.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
For many years, they.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Went after Brandon Ayuk, they couldn't get them. They went
after others. In the last couple of years they couldn't
get them. They finally get DK Metcalf and the money.
Look the salary cap. It was increased by a X
amount of dollars. The money is almost funny money at
this point. I can't compare it to previous years because
it's gone up so much in the last couple of years,
where this might just be the going rate for a
(09:00):
star wide receiver. And once we see what Jamar Chase gets,
it'll blow this out of the water.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
What we see at T. Higgins gets by bloat this
out of the water.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
So I am fascinated to see because right now the
way I see the dominoes.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
You've heard it, and I said it last week or
two weeks.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Ago from the combine, Justin Fields is who Pittsburgh wants. However,
Justin Field's going to have a market. So if Justin
Fields does not come back to Pittsburgh, is Pittsburgh a
sneaky place for Sam Donald? And is that Sam Donald throwing.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
DK Metcalf passes.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
And then I'll give you a third name. And the
ring almost like the Royal Rumble coming in. Here is
Aaron Rodgers throwing a DK Metcalf next year? Like that
is why as much as we took care of business
over the weekend, there are still so many unanswered questions.
And we have Aaron Rodgers throwing to George Pickens and
DK Metcalf with Mike Tomlin on the sideline, like, sign
me up. That's a really interesting team. A lot of
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personalities to navigate there and a lot of egos to massage.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
But DK Metcal's a steel.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I don't know who's throwing on the bay yet. We
spent so many years complaining and losing sleep over the
(10:18):
lack of talent at the Philadelphia Eagles defensive backfield.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Well they finally built that thing up.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And now it's like hey, Cooper Dejen and Reid Blank
and Ship and Queenyon Mitchell, like the show is yours.
There's a lot on their shoulders right now. That's real
veteran leadership, and I value veteran leadership. I think you
look at what that offensive line does. They bring in
new talent and they groom them and then it's a
defensive backfield though that is an Achilles Heel for the
Eagles for many years. They finally seem like they nailed
(10:45):
it last year, and they got these two rookies who
played so well. That's a big responsibility on their shoulders.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
But that is what happens with the spoils of winning.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
You at some point are going to have to pay
Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter, and you're gonna have to
pay Nolan Smith and Nakobe Dean and the rest of them,
just like they paid Zach Bond to keep him there.
So we say farewell to four very very important veteran
players on this team, and I guess we have to
move on and see But.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I don't know. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So what do you make of this, the fact that
Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson are in the same room together.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I would just say it's two guys who are looking
to salvage their careers at such young ages. Like I
didn't realize Daniel Jones was Joe Montana the way the
feeding Frenzy was in the media the last couple of weeks, Like, Wow,
Daniel Jones is a market He's gonna be Hey, he's
making fourteen.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Million a year that's real money.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And then Anthony Richardson, everyone's writing them off in Indianapolis.
And I don't follow that team closely enough to know
the inner workings. But when you have a quarterback who's
going to his third year and they're already signing someone
else for fourteen million dollars, it tells me that the
writing's on the wall and that maybe they didn't love
what you had brought to the table the last two years.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Not a great sign for Richardson. And I'm not a.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Huge Daniel Jones is gonna We're going to shock the world.
So to me, I'm kind of nonplussed by this, and
I hate being so negative, but like, that is a
good team with a good running back, and that is
a good team with a solid defense. Quarterback's been the
missing piece. At least they're addressing it. Chris Ballard's and
through this carousel ride of Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan
and Philip Rivers and now we're on Daniel Jones. I
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don't have a ton of confidence that this is going
to get them to a super Bowl. Rogers we know
is going somewhere, and it might not just be a week.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
It might be two weeks, three weeks, four weeks.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
If you think you know the answer to what Aaron
Rodgers's timetable is, you know more than the Steelers and
the Giants too, because I've spoken with teeth to sources
on both sides and everyone's kind of got that shrug
emoji were William we're seeing give me a space, let
him decide.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Now, we don't know the.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Numbers, we don't know what's been offered exactly, but we
do know there's been contact treat his representatives and both
of those teams.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Rogers.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Meanwhile, I'm told his quote out west right now, that's
where he is. So he's not in Chile, he's not
in Peru, He's.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Not in wherever he goes for what do they even
call it? An enigma?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
His medicine, Yes, medicine in the generals, medicine that for
him though West lighte mean like West Asia.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Descinating to me is.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
That he's got these two franchises that are just woven
in the cloth of NFL history. You're talking about two
blue chip franchises with two blue chip families, and they're
waiting on Rogers and this is just kind of what
the deal's going to be it is going to be
on Aaron's terms where he decides to go, and we're
not one hundred percent sure he's going to either yet.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
So Rogers, for.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
All the hoopla about how terrible he was with the
Jets and how awful teammate he is, to haven't You've
got two really strong, really historical franchises waiting on a
forty one year old quarterback coming off two years from
an achilles injury, and I do think he's their number
one option in both of those places. It's funny because
the Steelers, it's like, all right, if we don't get
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Aaron Rodgers, we could go back to Russell Wilson, which
we didn't court him really he was our quarterback, and
we're kind of going after someone else. But hopefully DK
Metcalf's an old teammate, they get along and we can
make this right. We can put the toothpaste back in
the tube, or maybe we draft someone in the twentieth
or we get someone in the second rounds don't get
Aaron Rodgers get the third overall pick, and it's like,
are we drafting Shador? Are we drafting Shador? And then
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it gets a totally different road or are we drafting
Jackson Dart third overall, which wouldn't be the craziest thing
if you really have no quarterback and you like Dart
more than Shador Sanders. I just think for the Giants,
you know, we've made fun of the Jets for sending
Robert Salah and Joe Douglas and Woody Johnson and Christopher
Johnson to Malibu to go meet with Rogers. And there's
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TMZ cameras who are outside the house, which was.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Is it so crazy to find out where he is
and go to him if you really want him to
be the quarterback, and maybe try to court him and
say here's what we can offer and let's talk in person. Hey, look,
the league year starts this year. Anything is on the table.
If he's a free agent. I just don't know if
it's a sweepstakes for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Who's the better recruiter right now? Is it Brian Dable,
is it Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I'd love to see this thing play out, and maybe
Rogers can control those terms.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
JJ McCarthy better be good.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
JJ McCarthy better be ready, and JJ McCarthy better be
something that they can say that's why we moved on
from Sam Donald. For look, I understand it, it's his time.
He was a top ten draft pick, and it was
in the plans that year, probably late year one, year two,
he'd get his opportunity.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
But then things happen.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
He gets injured in preseason and Sam Donald has this
incredible year where for the first seventeen weeks of the
season there may have been no more impressive quarterback considering
what we expected him to be. Donald three years, one
hundred million. Seattle, like Minnesota, could have afforded that. They
had that in their budget, they opted not to spend
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it on that, and they opted to instead bringing guys
like Jonathan Allen and Will Fries and just.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Roll with the plan what it was all along.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Now, remember when Kracy drafted JJ McCarthy and they brought
in Sam Donald for one year, ten million. It was
because we have to pay everyone else, and we're gonna
be able to do this with a quarterback on a
rookie contract and we'll get a.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Good bridge veteran at quarterback. Well, what happened.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Darnold had this meteoric rise and was showed that he
could be that guy indoors doing it all and then
when he went outdoors, had great games in Chicago, great
games in Seattle when it mattered. I'm not sold on
JJ McCarthy because I haven't seen them. We sold in
one preseason game. Then we get that unfortunate news that
he got injured. So they're banking on this guy being
fully recovered and being able to compete, and I don't
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know incomplete for me, We'll see TBA.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
What is the one thing that made you ecstatic and
want to run through a wall when you were in
the fifth grade.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Do you remember that first day of school when you
had the new sneakers and you were so excited to
show your friends I got new shoes. I also felt
this way when a team would have a new logo
and I would buy that shirt, like, oh my gosh,
the new Jersey Nets have changed their logo and we've
got Kendall Gill and John cala Parry let's go or
the new England Patriots. This draft drew Bledsoe and in
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addition have these new cool jerseys that they're going to
be rolling out and they're selling it at the model's nearby.
When they did this logo change and it went from
Hugh Millin and all of a sudden we got parcels
and Bledsoe.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
It was the coolest deal.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
And every kid, no matter where you grew up, you
bought that eleven Bledsoe Jersey because it was this new, different,
cool logo. Now we talk about throwbacks, but back in
the day in fifth grade when a team rolled out
a new Remember when the Phoenix Suns brought out that
new logo and those new uniforms and Barkley was there
and it was so cool.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Ah, that was it. This is Kevin Johnson, Ray Marley.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Tom chains Fall, Big Oliver Miller in the middle. This
was what it was.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Loved it new Jersey, new logo.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Nothing cooler as a fifth grader to come into school
and start showing that stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
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