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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
I think Kevin Burkhardt was really good on the call.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
He called it a dagger, and there is some sweet,
sweet harmony to this thing. I'm going with the Davonte
Smith touchdown that made it thirty four to nothing. But
think about this way back when in a game that Jamie,
you were on the sidelines for sez to a replace it.
Jalen Hurts in the National Championship game and who does
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he throw the game winning touchdown to at Alabama Davonte Smith.
We go full circle announced Jalen Hurts in the number
team and he throws the touchdown and the dagger to
Devonte Smith. Davante Smith, one of only a few men
in NFL history to win a Heisman Trophy, a National title,
and now a Super Bowl Lombardy. Davonte Smith put that
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game away and that was the dagger from Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I want to talk about the old man though.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I got a really cool opportunity to talk to Brandon
Graham in that moment of elation. Graham who went down
with what we thought was a season ending injury, waits
out the entire season and then is activated onto the
roster on Friday and is dressed and playing and on
the field and there for the confetti following for his
second Super Bowl ring. And I was asking, Brandon, I'm like,
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you've been through so much. Can you imagine that you're
here and getting back here? And he says, he says,
you don't get it. When we have this family, you
don't get it. I don't know if I'm here without
everyone around me to get here. Brandon Graham, the eldest Eagle,
the one that's been here all along, spoke with him
and Lane Johnson and Howie Roseman as like a trio.
And that's been this generation of Eagles. It's been in
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the trenches, it's been on defense. And though the quarterbacks
can change from foles to wins to foles to hurts,
the constants have been some of those faces that are
in that organization. So for Brandon Graham, for Lane Johnson,
for Howie Roseman, for all the different staffers. They're a
third Super Bowl trip since twenty eighteen and a second
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Super Bowl ring, and they are legendary for stopping Mahomes
from winning three in a row. I don't make an
excuse for them, but it is so long the NFL season,
we're just talking about it. They have gone the full distance,
not one, not two, but three years, and then at
the absolute apex.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
The wheels fell off. They had nothing left. That was
not the Chiefs we've watched for the last three years.
That was the Chiefs that we think of in our
worst nightmares.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Every single thing that could have gone wrong went wrong, penalties, miscues.
Then there's this play where DeAndre Hopkins is wide open
with the entire one of the most shorthanded wide receivers
that you will have in the NFL, and the Homes.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Makes the right read throws it to them and d hop.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Just just doesn't catch it and Mahomes is off on
the pass and look at the open field.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Chris Jones summed it all up. I was at practice
on Wednesday. They were so dialed in. I was with
them before the game on the sideline. They were so
dialed in.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And then the ball kicks off and it completely went
off the rails.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I think they eventually just had nothing left.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
And for all the redemption stories we were talking about
with Kareem Hunt and DeAndre Hopkins and Mattareza and all
these guys. They they all just did not show up
yesterday and it just wasn't there. So the three peat
doesn't happen. And I don't know if they get back,
I don't I mean, they're young, but they're not as
they're not as hungry as maybe the Ravens or the
Bills are. Like, I don't know, I can't guarantee they're
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gonna get another shot if Burrow gets Higgins and Chase back.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Are we certain the Chiefs have.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The number that might have been Bills Miles Garrett, you
know fu Yeah, So like it was right there, history
was right there, and they just couldn't finish the deal.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I'll tell you a little story.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So after the confetti fell, after everyone was already smoking
cigars done in my work at Fox, and I'm walking
in the bowels of the super Dome and I see
this this man in like a very casual shirt and
jeans with like a Super Bowl hat on.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm like, all right, is that Vic Fangio. Vic Fangio
was walking alone in the bowels and he.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Was like, I'm going to the team bus, Like, Vic,
congratulations on winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
He's like, yeah, look, it doesn't validate anything I've always
been coaching. It's it's an amazing moment.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Vic, Take a second here, you just silenced the greatest
team of this generation and absolutely made Patrick Mahomes look
like mincemeat for three quarters of the game.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Take a second.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And Vic looked at me and said, I have been
coaching in the NFL since nineteen eighty six. This is
my first Super Bowl victory in two thousand in twenty five.
That's thirty eight years. I want to start the show
with the defense. In Vic Fangio, I thought what that
Eagles defense did yesterday was incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
We heard so much about Mahomes, We hear so much.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
About Worthy and Hollywood and DeAndre nothing from Pachaco, nothing
from Hunt. And there's Vic Fangio just with his defense
being an absolute menace as Mahomes is running around for
the life of him, throwing the ball around.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Mahome did not look good.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I think the stat that I saw was Mahomes had
twenty three yards in the first half, yep, and the
Eagles had twenty four points first half.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Absolutely dominant.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
And for a guy like Fangio, who's one of these Lifers,
always considered one of the best defensive minds, just hadn't
done it. Did it with the Dome Patrol Saints, was then,
of course with the forty nine Ers lost in a
Super Bowl here twelve years ago as a defensive coordinator,
and then it was a head coach of course with
the Broncos, and it was a defensive coordinator with the Dolphins.
And the guy's been everywhere for him to save his
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greatest game in the NFL after thirty eight years coaching,
and then to be hoisting a Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I just thought Vick was the stud last.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Night in that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Defense, four man rushed, they didn't send these corner blitzes,
and those receivers with the Chiefs could.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Not get open.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
An absolute destruction of Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, Travis Kelcey.
A week consider one of the most unstoppable forces in
the NFL, the Kansas City Chiefs. The Eagles defense is
my big story today and the Eagles defensive coordinator Vic
Fanju after thirty eight years hoisting a Lombardi I think
that was the story of the game. He had the
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game plan, he had it all dialed in. Mahomes and
Kelsey looked like shells of themselves yesterday. Okay, so I'm
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gonna start off with let's go back nine days. It
was the Monday that started off the Super Bowl. It
was the media opening night, and I was so honored
to be asked to be a part of the opening broadcast.
And it was myself, it was Scott Hansen, it was
Kimmy Checks. We were really excited, and then all of
us were immediately minimized by one man who showed up
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with a mic flag that said Fox and it was
this guy. And that was just the start of the
Jamis Winston Super Bowl Week experience. Jamis owned media night,
asking all the questions of players, throwing w's at players,
and then proceeded to have the best time as Fox's
digital correspondent. He posted this video of him walking through
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New Orleans and I think this beats any Jennifer Hudson
show opening where the guys come in from the dressing room.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
This was just.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Jamis walking through New Orleans with strangers slapping them five
and I'm like, I want all of this. I want
this in my life. I want this at night, I
want this in the morning, I want.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
It every day. He is all vibe. We got actors,
I asked the person who put this together. I'm like,
what are you like? We just sent Jameis loose in.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The wild and let him go, and this was the
energy that he had all week long.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
He brought a smile to everyone's face.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And then if we could take the video down for
a second, I want to get like emotional with the
crowd because here's what happened.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I'm like, all right, Jamis has been part in on
the joke, part not in on the joke. He's doing barstool,
but he's also doing these interviews where he's starting w's
and eating crab legs. I'm like, I'm not sure. Super
Bowl Sunday, I see James. I'm like, Jamis, what's up baby?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Great week?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And all sudden I quickly get a vibe like this
is right before kickoff. He's sitting there stoically with tears
in his eyes, and I'm like, Jameis will be good,
and he's like, I've never been to one of these.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I don't know if I'll ever playing one of these.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I'm just trying to a savor and appreciate.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
This moment right before kickoff, and I'm like, Jamis, man,
you just hit a chord with me.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I get it, dude, I'll let you be.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And I gave him his distance and for like ninety
seconds he was just closing his eyes and embracing it
all and savoring it. Jamis is an interesting figure in
our NFL lives, but he's also a captivating one.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
And I thought he owned the week.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I think that Mahomes is the best in the sport
and he's giving Jalen Hurts that credit like you're one
of us. And I think that's the conversation now. It's
not is Jalen Hurts able to win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (09:40):
He's done that.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It's do you put Jalen in the same conversation now
with Mahomes, Lamar, Josh Allen, Joe.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Burrow, And do you say is he in that group?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And I'm not sure I would start the season off
and say Jalen Hurts is one of those guys. And
yet I think all those guys would fall on their
sword and say I would do anything to have the career.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
That Jalen Hurts has had so far. You know, Lamar, would.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I think give away his two MVPs to have opportunity to.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Be a Super Bowl MVP. I really do feel that way.
So rab Cam Newton, though he wants now.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Cam Newton was the Cam Newton strouded himself with a
bunch of losers in Carolina, including Steve Smith. That's what
I was told based on what he read.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
That's what he said.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Uh that said back to Jalen, next few months.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Are going to be interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Jalen Hurts was on fallon last night, and it's not
a laugh riot, it's not a chuckle hut.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
He's He's not.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
As charming as maybe mahomes in those situations, or he's
not he doesn't have that big, bright smile as Josh Allen.
Jalen Hurts is going to be like this his entire life.
There's not this, There's not this. He was great in
that game, he was amazing in the post game. But
if you expect Jalen Hurts to be hosting Saturday Night Live,
or Jalen Hurts to start a podcast where it's him
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and Tua Krack and Wise, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
So accept him for.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
How he is because he is confident in his own
skin and what you think of him on the outside.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
If we've learned anything.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
About this guy throughout his college and pro.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Career, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
He internalizes everything and he's able to do it on
the field. He's one of the best quarterbacks in the
NFL right now, folks, and he's got a Super.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP to show for it.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I think you hit something here, Jamie. I think that
the same way that Tom Brady. The first year he
won a super Bowl, it was like, yeah, he won
the Super Bowl, But are you're putting him in the same
conversation as Peyton Manning or Brett farv No. I think
there's a little bit of that with Jalen Hurts because
of where he was drafted. He was a second round
pick who was drafted after Justin Herbert, after Joe Burrow,
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after Tua, after Jordan Love, and they already had Carson Wentz,
so it was like, we're gonna stash him for a while.
I still wonder if where he was drafted is why
we give him. Maybe some of them not the same.
I don't know instant credibility as others do coming out
of the draft, where we immediately anoint them as that guy.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
His path is different.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
He was a backup for a year and then he
had to go up some ups and downs. But I
would ask you, guys, we do the NFL network Top
one hundred, I would imagine Saquon is going to be
in the top three this year based on what he did.
Where do you think Jalen Hurts ranks from the players perspective?
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Where do they put Jalen Hurts? Is he top five?
Is he top ten? Is he number one? Vic fandro who.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Waited thirty eight years to be a Super Bowl champion,
it shows you the beauty of a team. Fangio entered
the NFL in the in the early eighties with the
New Orleans Saints with Pat Swilling and Ricky Jackson in
the Dome Control defense. Eighty six was his first year
in New Orleans and then to cap it off in
twenty twenty five with a Super Bowl ring. Well, he's
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got these two rookies Dejen and Mitchell and Jylex Hunt
on the defensive end side, three guys who are twenty one,
twenty one, and twenty two. I think lost in the
Saquon chase for two thousand and for Saquon's chase of
Eric Dickerson was the season hat in Cincinnati by Jamar Chase.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I'm going to say, let's.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Give a little minute to Jamar Chase's twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Steel Like, we barely even track.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
This over the season because we've become so.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Numb to individual records.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Guys, Jamaar Chase led the league in catches, receiving yards,
and receiving touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
He's one of only.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Six men to do that in an NFL season since
we started playing the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Take a look at this. You're talking about Bambi, you're.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Talking about Jerry Rice the Goat, you're talking about Hall
of Famer Sterling Sharp, you're talking about Steve Soon, and.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Then you're talking a couple of years ago Cooper cups
matches and Jamar Chases.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Just six guys have done this receptions, receiving yards, receiving touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Jamar Chase always has a spot on this show.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
If there's anything that we didn't give enough time to
was the dominant season that he had. We gave love
to Saquon, we gave love to Burrow, and of course
we gave love to the Chiefs for what they were
doing all season long in these one score games. Jamar Chase,
the son of a friend of ours.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Jimmy Chair. Jimmy, we've been a great ally to the show.
They met him many times. Jamar.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Now he might be getting new contract, maybe not getting
a new cars. Heay this man, whatever it is, I
would like to say this three words.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Kyle d do it again. One two three man my
side gig job. Kyle knows this well.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
The summer after my senior year of high school, all
of my idiot friends and I decided we were going
to work at a telemarketing company together in our hometown, Freehold,
New Jersey. The first day we were competitive about getting
as many sales as we can, like for like a
few hours, like I'm gonna beat you and beat you.
Then the next sixty days of summer, I don't think
we picked up the phone once and we just sat
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there at that Cuba bill and just goofed off. So
an amazing job paid minimum wage. We were definitely like
better than Ezra and third Eye Blind and maybe some fuel.
And I would say those lunch breaks were supposed to
be thirty minutes.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
There are probably two hours.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And I wouldn't go in the car afterwards because it
probably smelled, Oh so telemarketer or job That's what I
was there.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
We go.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
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Speaker 5 (15:37):
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Speaker 1 (15:38):
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Speaker 4 (15:42):
Artist Jelly Roll. Yes, Jelly Roll.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Friday night, my wife and I left the Commissioner's party
in a suit and a ball gown that you would
wear to a gala, and we went to the Orpheum
Theater in New Orleans where we had a two tickets
to see a concert Jelly Roll and Chris Stapleton. Not
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only did we go to Jelly Roll, but we went
right into the middle of the moshpit. And my beautiful
friend that I'm here with now and producer slash representative
from iHeart, Jason English, was in the house. Jason had
never met my wife. Jason had never been to a
Jelly Roll concert before. See Jason in the crowd, give
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him a big old hug, bring him over. And then
Jelly Roll proceeded to have an hour long set that
I think owned and tore the house down in New Orleans.
Played his hits, Somebody Saved Me, I need a favor.
All the hits that you know from jelly over the years,
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and some of his new stuff just fantastic. But he
also did covers, did covers of Green Day, Time of
My Life, He did Eminem what was the Eminem song
from eight mile?
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Lose Yourself? He did Boys in the Hood? Did that?
What else? Did he play? Biz Marquis you say she's
just a friend?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Did a million covers And what's cool is I'm in
the mosh pit and I get a video the next
day from my buddy's Spoon. Now Spoon is a producer
of the Amazon pregame show get a video.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
On my phone.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's me singing every word to some song from Jelly Roll.
I know every song. I've seen him five times now.
I love Jelly Roll. And the people that Spoon were
with was Jared Goff, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Kyle Usedcheck, George Kittle,
Trevor Lawrence, and then John Hamm who was having the
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party of his life up there in the balcony, just
loving Jelly Roll. They were all up in the balconies.
I would call them like the Abe Lincoln seats because
of like, that's how the theater was.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
But that's pretty morbid.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Nothing like that happened at the Jelly Roll concert and
Jelly was addressing the crowd.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Jelly was addressing them. Jelly was amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
He was doing it in a Titans leather jacket with
his drummer, who I just I absolutely love his energy.
His drummer wearing a number ten Titans jersey and I'm like, oh,
he's wearing a Vince Young jersey. They turned around it
was a DeAndre Hopkins ten. I'm like, all right, not
as cool, but I still like it. It's still a
Titans jersey number ten. That is who delivered. It was
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one of the greatest concerts.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
It was only an hour. It was perfect.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
We dipped out. Chris Stapleton then performed. I saw Stapleton
the night before. Unbelievable vocals, maybe the best living country
singer alive.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
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