The Season with Peter Schrager: Week 1 Reactions & Brian Hoyer

Peter gives his instant reaction to the Jets’ sobering Week 1 loss to the 49ers, as well as an even more disappointing loss for the Giants on Sunday. Tampa Bay shut some people up and Peter does a mea culpa for flippantly taking the Falcons in the NFC South. 15-year veteran Brian Hoyer joins the show and goes deep on the Patriots surprising (to some) Week 1 win, Jerod Mayo, and offers some tremendous stories on Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, Danny Amendola, Gronk, Jimmy G, and Kyle Shanahan.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the
NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to
the Season with Peter Schrager. I'm sitting here covered in

(00:28):
egg all over my face. I've got crow in my mouth.
Last night was a shell lacking of epic proportions. Yes,
I'm recording this on a Tuesday morning, and I'm trying
not to be knee jerk guy. But after I spent
an entire summer on every major podcast, including this one
and a national television show, waxing poetic on the New

(00:49):
York Jets being a one seed in the AFC and
Aaron Rodgers being an MVP, they got the snot kicked
out of them. I have this weird internal dialogue, and
the internal dialogue starts with fear because the Jets are
supposed to be one of these teams that prides themselves

(01:10):
on their defense. Where last year with seven wins, they
still managed seven wins despite unspeakably bad quarterback play between
Trevor Simmey and Tim Boyle, Zach Wilson and whoever else,
and the year before they won a bunch of games
with Chris Streveler and the motley crew that they had

(01:30):
backing up Zach Wilson with a Joe Flacco that was
not the version we saw last year in Cleveland. I'm like,
if they won those games there and they added to
the offensive line, which, by the way, last year suited
up twenty different players and had thirteen different combinations, surely
they're gonna be much improved because the defense is so
dan good. Last night, the defense was awful. They couldn't

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stop anything. Jordan Mason is an undrafted player at a
Georgia Tech. He's been with the Niners for a couple
of years. But when Christian McCaffrey's ruled inactive, of people
fantasy football fans aside, who are like, oh my gosh,
the Jets have this thing in the bag because mccaffery's everything.
For Jordan Mason to go twenty eight carries for one

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hundred and forty nine yards in a touchdown right up
the gut on a defense that prides itself on its
front seven. All I heard about this summer was how
they didn't need Hassan Reddick necessarily. It was a nice
to have, not a must have, because they were so
loaded in the front seven. Think about their roster as
a whole. You're talking about Quinn Williams, who's an All Pro.

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You're talking about Quincy Williams's brother, who's an All Pro.
You're talking about first round picks up and down the roster,
whether it be Will McDonald or it be Jermaine Johnson,
or in the last couple of years, you've had guys
who've been joining the team like Tac McKinley or Javon
Kinlaw and then Moseley's a first round pick. I mean,
the front seven is supposed to be the strength of

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the team and they were man handled last night. So
my immediate reaction is, look at time of possession, look
at the rushing yards, Look at the way on third
down the Jets defense couldn't get the Niners off the field.
In my imedy reaction, it's like they're not competing with
the Chiefs and the Ravens this year. That team isn't.
They're not. They might win eight games, they might take

(03:24):
care of business against some inferior part they're not. They're
not beating the Chiefs of the Ravens. They're certainly not
gonna beat any of the AFC East teams. If they're
in full swing, like they're not going out there and
you're gonna sweep the Bills and the Dolphins, which is
what it would take to be the one seed. So
I feel foolish, I feel dumb. I feel like I
led you on. I feel like I did their preseason
game and went to a few practices and got and

(03:45):
got duped. And then I then I take a sober
moment and I'm like, well, Rogers looked pretty good when
he had an opportunity to throw the ball. Garrett Wilson
looked damn good. Lazard got a few touches after the
initial drop in the first series, and Lazard looked all right,
and the offensive line kept Aaron Rodgers upright. And oh yeah,
by the way, the forty nine ers are absolutely loaded.

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They just played the defending NFC champions, who are pissed
they lost the Super Bowl, and they played them in
their building after a week of build up with everyone
else playing, and it was like they just unloaded on them.
So the Jets play the Titans on Sunday in Nashville.
The Titans, who their head coach, Brian Callahan, I think

(04:29):
had the quote of the year when he was basically
like if we just took every first down and punted it,
we would have won this game. Like that's how down
he was about how the offense performed, and he's an
offensive coach, Like they should beat the Titans, and then
they have a short week and they've got a Patriots
team though, want to know, are rather untested, and we're

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not supposed to be world beaters this year. They should
beat them too. So three games in ten days, it's
a big ask. And yet, as much as I want
to fly off the handle and Jets fans, I hear you,
you're listening, I'm trying to be more rational here. They
could be two in one heading into October and then
we're like, all right, all is good and we're okay

(05:09):
the other team across town. I have no positive things
to say. Again, really fell for this Giants one hundred thing.
Thought it was awesome. Thought it was going to add
some mystique to this opening week, that the fans are
going to be in a fervor and they're on the
least in these new uniforms. You've got lt in the building,
you got Sims in the building, You've got Kaughlin, gosh,

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you've got Bill parcels in the building. You're honoring all
these people. You got the NFL to give you a
one o'clock start against a Vikings team. Now, I don't
think anybody really thinks is going to Super Bowl this year.
And they lost. They look terrible, and so much so
that Daniel Jones is getting booed at the end of
the game. I don't have a sobering thought for Giants fans.
I didn't see many positive signs. And I feel for

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Joe Shane, I really do, because he didn't ask for
Hard Knocks cameras to be analyzing every offseason move and
as he's being filmed, as they let Saquon Barkley walk,
and they let Xavier McKinney walk, and you see Julian
Love getting interceptions up there is Seattle and you see
what's his name, Leonard Williams absolutely dominating for the for

(06:13):
the Seahawks. You start saying, oh, well, we went through
all this and we're analyzing it, and well what happened
there was all on film brutals start to the season
for the Giants. The joke I made on air is
that like the pumpkin patches and the hay rides, and
the East Coast have not opened yet, like it's an
early start to the season. It's right after Labor Day.

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Like there's a place Hanks that's out in Long Island,
like I know it, like they it is not open yet.
And in a lot of ways, like Giants fans to the other,
season's over and it's before we even can go on
pumpkin patches, it's before we can even go on hay rides.
Like this, you can't even apple pick yet. Kids are
showing up to school in shorts still and the season's over,
Like that's that's demoralizing. I don't feel that way. I

(06:55):
feel like it's a long season and I've learned long
enough that week one is a liar. A lot of
times teams lose in week one and then figure a
way out to figure things out the rest of the
season and they can bounce back. And we never know
how seasons go. But Jets I feel about Giants don't
feel so hot. Chiefs feel very good about. The other

(07:16):
team I picked in the Super Bowl though, were the Packers,
And I didn't realize that, you know what their backup
quarterbacks and Malik Willison, Sean Clifford. I got to think
about all these things, and Jordan Love goes down. Malik Willison,
sew and Sean Clifford are not winning them a super Bowl,
They're not winning them an MC title. So we got
to get Jordan Love back if the Packers are gonna
have to fill my NFC championship prediction. At the very least,

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their offense was moving with Love under center, and I
thought that game could have gone either way. Playing in
Brazil after a twelve hour flight on a stadium surface
that didn't see my ideal. I'm not gonna say that's
the version of the Packers or the Eagles we're gonna get.
I'm amost gonna say asterisk there. Most impressive teams, Chiefs.
I think the way they looked as oppressive, forty nine ers,

(08:01):
the way they looked as impressive. I'm gonna throw in
the Saints just to come out of the gates the
way they did. And then I love Tampa in the
NFC South. I love the way that they performed. They
came out there and they just lit it up and
said everyone's picking the Falcons, look at us. Most disappointing
teams Browns, no idea what that was, you know, You're
opening on a big stage with Brady in the booth

(08:22):
and everyone's watching, and it's a week one game on
Fox with that booth and that spotlight, and no other
Fox games in that window. So the entire country's getting that.
And for you to lay an egg like that with Watson,
major disappointment. Giants, major disappointment, Falcons major disappointment. What was
that to bring in Cousins? Cousins does not look one

(08:42):
hundred percent. That offense looks even more anemic than it
did under Arthur Smith last year. Can't be happy with that.
And then another disappointing team that you know, not a
lot of people are talking about as far as like
disappointments because what were we expecting. I don't know, the
Bears win, but what the hell was that offense? The
Bears offense. I was hoping for fireworks and for lightning

(09:03):
and for thunder and for all this stuff, and hard
knocks were talking up Caleb. Not a great offensive debut,
very concerning. You're not gonna win many games playing that way.
And now they've got a Sunday night battle against the
Houston Texans. That's four up for down. Some thoughts on
New York Brady. Everyone's asking me what you think of Brady?
It's a what's it? Is he submitting an Emmy reel

(09:26):
based on that performance? Probably not, But it's a long
season and he's gonna get better, and I think that
there are shades of some glimpses of what he could do.
But it's also like, all right, back to the drawing board.
If that wasn't the home run out of the Gates
that everyone expected, You've got plenty of weeks now to
work on it. And I think he's gonna get better
every week. And I thought Burke Cahrt was fantastic. And
when Brady's you know, talking, it was a blowout game.

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There wasn't really many opportunities. What do you want to do?
You want to bury Deshaun Watson for for sixty minutes?
He didn't do that. I'm not making any excuses. We'll see.
I enjoyed it, but I also changed the channel because
the game was a blowout, and I started watching Seattle
Denver and I'm watching Adam Archiletta, and it just tells
you like the broadcast matters, but also I want the
competitive game. All in all, an amazing week one. You

(10:10):
think about the first two primetime games, the one on
Thursday night, the one on Friday night, How can you
top it? The Sunday Night one was even better. Between
the Rams and the Lions, one of my favorite games.
I've seen it forever. Just an epic matchup, and I
wouldn't be shocked if we see all those two teams
squaring off in January. And then last night's Monday Night
game just tells you, like, you know, all the hype
in the world, you got to go deliver. The biggest
upset of the week came from the Patriots. They beat

(10:32):
a Bengals team that a lot of people have winning
the AFC North. They did it so in a physical
fashion and up beat fashion, and in a way that
was like, Oh, they're going to compete this year. They're
not going to be a walk over. They're not going
to lose thirty seven nothing to any teams. They're too
proud and they're too disciplined, and they're too well coached.
To get an inside look at it. I wanted to
bring on one of my favorite guys to play the game,

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and I guess that I'm excited to have on former
Patriots quarterback, but he also has played for just about
every other team in the NFL, and he's played with
all the greats. Brian Hoyer is our guest after this,
with no further ado, I want to bring on our guest,

(11:14):
one of my favorite guys in the league. I've covered
him for nearly two decades when he was a quarterback
in the NFL, and now he's doing a bit of
the media game as he's not currently on an NFL roster,
and he's been so cool to join us as our
Week one reaction, our Week two look ahead, but lots
of talk about on teams that he used to play for.
The great Brian Hoyer joins us, Brian, what's up? Man?

Speaker 2 (11:38):
What's up? Peter? Thanks for having me on Man kind
of got me down this road. One of my first
and media appearances was zooming in with you guys on
Good Morning Football, and that went so well. They're like, hey,
why don't you come back, you know, the Friday before
the Super Bowl, And I was on the show with
you down there in New York, which was awesome, And
now I'm kind of just trying to navigate my way
through it all.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
All right, So for the listeners, you're like Brian Hoyer,
All right, thinking about him as a Patriot. Last year
you were with the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Raiders, that's right.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
How's it end there and what's the what's the future
for you personally? Are you, Donnie hanging them up? If
there's a call, you know, I see Green Bay lost
Jordan Love. If they're like, we need a veteran quarterback,
is your is your phone line open?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah? Of course. I look at the Joe Flacco model.
I mean, Joe waited around, waited around, and then all
of a sudden comeback Player of the Year. So you know,
I'm still you know, the thing about quarterback is is
I'll still I'll be able to throw till I'm fifty.
So if I'm in you know, good health, and it's
the right situation, it's always something that you know, I
tell my agents just you know, let me know, and

(12:38):
then it's then you've got to make that decision if
it's best for your family too. Because I was at
my son's seventh grade football practice yesterday watching him try
to play quarterback for the first time. So there's some
things that there's some benefits to not having, you know,
to be in meetings and practice all day but you know,
I love the game and that's why I'm staying involved
covering it, but also stay in shape in case that
call comes good.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
You mentioned that we had you on Good Morning Football
and that was like your national media like whatever, that's fine.
You and I go back to the twenty fourteen season.
The Browns get off to this red hot start. You
guys beat Tennessee in dramatic fashion, and I fly into
Cleveland for the Fox NFL pregame show to interview their quarterback,
not Johnny Manziel, no Brian Hoyer, because you had them

(13:21):
off to that red hot start, and everyone in Cleveland
was a buzz a wild ride then. And this is
nearly ten years later, and dude, you still can sling it.
It's a pretty cool NFL career you've had. Dude.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, it's been quite a journey. And you know, I'm
thankful for my family for you know, being a part
of it. It's not easy being the wife and having
to you know, pick up and move. There was a
time three years in a row it was a different
city and and you know, luckily my kids were still young.
You could pull them out of school, put them in
a new school. But now we've kind of established our
roots here in New England and that's why I'm covering

(13:54):
the Patriots. It's really easy for me to do. Haven't
been here for a long time. But it was a
great ride and I met a lot of great people.
And the thing that you know, sitting there watching these
games on Sunday and I missed the most is just
being around the guys. Know, And that's something that you
take for granted because you go in every day and
it's the grind of Mondays are reviewing the game and
Wednesday practice and meetings and all these things. But those

(14:16):
are the things now where you know, I'm sitting there
and missing those because it was such a built in camaraderie,
built in brotherhood. And it was pretty cool watching the
Patriots win that game when no one expected them to,
and you see them dumping the gate ray on Girod
and you know, just the unity and the belief that
they built and just in that one game, you know,
I know those feelings you talked about coming back down

(14:38):
twenty eight to three in Tennessee. You know the locker
room after that game. There was some video of me
even doing some crazy dance and I don't even know
what I was doing, but those are the moments that
you miss, you know, when you're not playing. So it's
you know, like I said, open to that possibility, but
also I'm enjoying kind of venturing into this this media
world too.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, let's quickly before we get into the football analysis,
kind of give a top level on the media stuff.
So you mentioned you're doing Patriots postgame. Where is that?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Then?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I also know I saw you you're doing serious satellite
radio as well, right.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, so NBC Sports Boston. I have a weekly kind
of offensive game plan show that I record on Wednesdays
that comes out on NBC Sports Boston doing Sirius XM
radio Opening Drive with Solomon Willcott's a guy who used
to cover me when I was playing, so now teaming
up with him and one cool thing that I'm really
excited about and just kind of getting off the ground

(15:31):
doing a podcast. Everybody you know we're doing yours, a
lot of them out there, but a really unique one
with Patriots center David Andrews. So we're kind of joining
back up as teammates and it's me not playing him
still playing active and we just recorded it dropped late
last night, but we had Matt light On as a guest,
and it's been a lot of fun. And you know,
for me to do it with a guy who's still

(15:52):
in it and get his perspective, and you know, we
reviewed the Bengals game a little bit, but also some
storytelling and and anytime you have Matt light On as
a guest, you know, it's it's for sure going to
be some fun. So that'll be a weekly thing. Looking
at Danny Amandola coming on next week, talk about Dancing
with the Stars, talk about talk about the teammate that
he was and the incredible player that he was, and

(16:13):
so it'll be a fun thing to do each week.
And and that's one I'm really excited about too.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I was texting with Danny yesterday because he posted this
video of him shirtless playing tennis in La at like
the Beverly Hills Country Club, and I'm like, yeah, enough
with the thirst traps, Like I'm good.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'm all right, I see not one of the coolest
people you ever. I mean literally, when I think like
someone who's the coolest guy is Danny A Mendolas like
comes to mind. And he was out there in Vegas
to me last year, so we got to spend some
time and and just he's he's literally one of the
most genuine like my son loves him. He's he comes
and he gives my son, Garrett a big hug when

(16:48):
we're at Tom's Hall of Fame. Enshrinman here in in
Foxborough and just but then he's out there, like you said,
the thirst traps. He's he's doing uh you know, surfing
on on out there. And then he's out in Alaska.
I mean just literally like international man of Mystery and great.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
You know, I've I've had a really cool opportunity to
get to know him really well, gron really well. And
now through Fox I deal with Edelman a lot. And
it's like, as someone who's in those Patriot locker rooms,
you think about like you know, Belichick and this like
serious like you know, Castid shadow over like the fun Factor.
Yet you talk about those three and I'm not even
including some of the bigger personalities that I don't know,

(17:25):
but like those three Gronk, Edelman and Danny, like you're
not gonna find three cooler dudes who are going to
enjoy life more.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Not at all. I mean stories for days about those guys,
but just I mean you look at them and it's
like they're living that young. You know, I got kids,
I'm busy, you know, I look at that. I just
live vicariously through them sometimes. But all three guys who
you know, unbelievable players, but even better friends and teammates.
And you know, it's always fun to see people doing well.

(17:54):
And so whether it's Julian with his podcasts and and
you know on NFL you know, game Day and Gronk
doing his thing, and Danny's you know, Dancing with the Stars,
so with some kind of moves he has out there.
But it's until good when you see your friends do well.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
All right, So Brady's now one game into this side
of it, and there were some people who took their
wax publicly. I have no thoughts. I think it's just
like an NFL season. Let's give it the full year
before we start weighing in on Brady the broadcaster. Did
you speak to him beforehand? Have you had any chance
to listen to the game, and what is just your
overall thoughts of Tom Brady now buttoned up suit broadcaster

(18:31):
for FOXX.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Who I texted him because he was in my hometown
of Cleveland, Ohio for his first game, so I said, hey, hope,
my hometown's treating you well. Good luck tomorrow. And then
you know, as you mentioned, I was doing the Patriots
postgame show, so I didn't get to see a lot
of the early stuff, but I walked in and back
home and he was breaking down Dak's touchdown pass and
I was like, man, this is this is it for me.
This is a play that we used to run versus

(18:53):
a bliit zero look and Tom nailed it. And you know,
but there's a thing, there's a transition. I'm learning it too,
and you realize in the media there's a cadence. I
remember doing the Good Morning Football Show with you and
it's like, you guys made it so comfortable for me
because you're the pros, and it was like, you know,
you passed it to me and I knew when to speak,
but you know when you're and I did a little

(19:14):
bit of the Patriots preseason games and it's like, okay,
it's my time to speak. Get it in before the
next play. And so I think there's a rhythm that
you have to learn. And I think Tom Brady is
the type of person if you told him, hey, we're
gonna make you, you know, go play the piano. You know,
give him some time and he'll be great at playing
the piano. So I think, you know, he'll he'll he'll
learn from it, just like he learned when he was
playing football. And then you know, I think, like anything,

(19:37):
it'll it'll come to him naturally as the season goes on.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
All right, so we've seen Brady goes like Belichick the media, Darling,
did you see that coming? Seven different medias everywhere Manning
cast last night inside the NFL to night. I mean,
it's a lot. And here's Belichick. Did you ever see him,
you know, turn the cameras on, I want to talk publicly.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Never and especially the way he trained us to deal
with the media. So it's kind of like a role
reversal seeing him all over the place. I was laughing
last night watching the Maning cast because you talk about
a rhythm, you're doing it via zoom kind of how
we're doing. And every time Peyton would go to talk,
Bill would say something. At one point Peyton kind of
laughed and he reared his head back. He's like, all right, Bill,
now you know what is your thoughts here? But it's funny.

(20:17):
And I was sitting there watching with my son. I said, here,
now you can experience what it was like to sit
in one of Bill's meetings. He's like Wilson, Wilson, I mean,
just double the guy. And it's just like, I think
people will get to see Bill from a different side
and it'll be fun for everyone. But I mean, god,
he's everywhere Instagram, instaface. I mean he used to talk
to us about, you know, stay off of insta face

(20:38):
and my Twitter and all this stuff, and now to
see him everywhere, it's pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
No joke though. Like Julian was on our show on
Sunday and Edelman says, the team he's watching is the
Atlanta Falcons, and I'm like, oh, yeah, they got fun
team and they designed cousins. He goes, I'm watching the
Atlanta Falcons because Bill Belichick interviewed for that job and
did not get it, and they chose someone else, Rahie
Morris over them. If they're a win now team and
they chose someone over coach, I know there's this mystique.

(21:05):
And there's also some recon years where Belichick missed the
playoffs and his teams didn't compete for any AFC titles
and he is in his seventies. Where do you stand
on Belichick twenty twenty five NFL head coach? Do you
see that still happening or do you think this is
a nice smooth transition to media.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I mean we'll see, right, I mean it will. He
may go and do these media things and just enjoy it,
and you know, you always never know what opportunities present themselves.
I don't think Bill's going to go to a team
that's in a rebuilding mode. I think it'd be, you know,
somewhere like Dallas or Philly, somewhere that he knows he
can go in and has a roster and can kind
of come in right away and win football games. So

(21:44):
it'll be interesting to see. Obviously, he's doing a lot
of the media stuff right now, keeping himself busy, but
a lot of that is too, is keeping an eye
on the leak. You know, we were talking before we
started recording, Like for me, this is a whole new
world because I'm doing Patriots postgame show, but I'm also
covering some of the national stuff too, So I'm trying
to scramble to watch all these you know, all these games.
I got like six screens up and you know, so

(22:07):
for him, it's it's good because he's staying involved and
he's covering a lot of football, so he'll have a
really good in depth knowledge of different teams, what they need,
you know, what teams maybe he's looking and hoping for
if he gets back into coaching.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Okay, Patriots. Everyone coming into this season said it's going
to be a rebuilding year. Drake May is going to
be a long term project, so let's not rush him
out of the dugout just yet. Let's just start with
your Kobe, see what we can do. And then there's
this thing called survivor pools, which you pick one team
in the each week and you can't use him again
and good Morning football. I was the victim of this.

(22:41):
They said, Peter, pick one team that you feel most
confident in winning this week. I said, well, Cincinnati's at
home against a Patriots team that we have no idea
what they're going to get. And sure enough, I'm out
of the survivor pool after one week. Yet you didn't
seem so surprised. Brian. I'm watching you, and I was
watching you this entire preseason. You were one of the
few people who did not seem surprised that this Patriots
team came out and absolutely outmanned, was more disciplined, and

(23:06):
was better shape, it seemed like than this Bengals team
who was playing at home with all pros all over
the roster.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, and I said on the pregame show, my first
time making a prediction on a game. And I said,
maybe I'm just too close to it. Maybe I'm just
too you know, close to being a player and being positive.
But you know, I watched the Patriots in the preseason
and a lot was made. You know, Okay, who's going
to be the quarterback? Okay, you put that behind you.
You go with the veteran Jacoby because of his experience,
his knowledge of the system, you know what he brings

(23:34):
to the table. And then okay, the offensive line's the
what's the lineup gonna be? What are they gonna do?
But when I looked at the matchup, you know, the
Bengals weren't a great run defense the past few years.
The Patriots all they've been talking about is establishing the
run in this new era with Alex van Pelt. And
on top of that, you weren't really sure was Jamar
Chase gonna play? Was T Higgins gonna play? And look,

(23:55):
I was a long time Patriot, but last year when
I was in Vegas, I had to come in and
play against the Patriots, and I realized, you know, I
knew the defense was always good, but playing against them
in a game, they make it so hard on you
with how much they switched up. The fronts are different,
the coverages are different. It's it's a tough day. I mean,
you have to be as a quarterback on your p's
and q's the entire game because the moment you're not
and they fool you, it turns into a really bad play.

(24:17):
And so the defense did a great job. Obviously, Judon
traded away, but it was kind of a pass rush
by committee. Christian Zalez does a great job, you know,
locking up Jamar Chase, who you know, in all reality,
didn't practice much their in training camp, so the rhythm's
kind of off there, and I thought it was kind
of a perfect storm. And plus on top of that,
having been a teammate of Drawd Mayo, a friend of
Girod Mayo, and seeing him push these guys in training camp,

(24:41):
you could see that these guys believe in Girod. They
wanted to win for Jrod, and you saw that in
the postgame celebration, the exuberance that was there, and and
them just kind of, you know, building the foundation for
the program that they're trying to build. And you know,
I thought, if things went right, if the Patriots didn't
turn the ball over, if they ran the football, if
they could avoid you know, the pressure from an Arumu

(25:04):
and Hendrickson, which they did tremendous job, they'd be in it.
It'd be a close game. And so I predicted them
to win seventeen fourteen. So I was off by a
few points, but it played out kind of how I
thought it would.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
All right, So you mentioned your teammates with him. You're
also there all training camp. Give me a good Girrod
Mayo's story, because a lot of people nationally, they don't
they know the name. They remember when he was drafted,
they remember him as a player. But like Patriots people
swear by this dude when he got that gig, and
everyone was like, what about Vrabel, what about Anyone inside
that organization was like no, no, no, you don't get it.
Gird Mayo is the guy. So tell us about Mayo

(25:38):
because I personally don't have much of a relationship.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
With him right. A few things come to mind. We
used to be neighbors. We lived together next to each
other for three years, so we would go play NHL
hockey on PlayStation or FIFA, and I mean these were competitive.
You hear the stories about Tom Brady like throwing the
remote so the game would like glitch. I mean, these
were intense battles. So that's the type of competitor he is.
And then you know we were talking that we interviewed

(26:00):
Matt light And for our podcast and Macco's Jiraw was
a coach the moment he stepped on the field as
a player. That's the type of intelligence level. And I
remember these battles between Brady and Gerard where we would
have you know, we'd call two plays in the huddle.
Tom would come up, He'd see the look, he'd alert
to the second play. Giro would change the defense, then
Tom would go back to the original play, then Giab
would go back to the other. It was like a

(26:21):
mental chess game going on. And so you saw it
as a player, and he dealt with some injuries and
one funny story when I played against Gerard when I
was playing for Houston, we were playing the Patriots. I'll
never forget this, but this is just who he is.
I stepped up, I threw a seam ball. It was
going to be a touchdown. Our tight end dropped the ball,
and Girod was like just starts laughing in my face.
He's like, man, that was a great throw. That was
going to get a touchdown. And it was just one

(26:42):
of those demoralizing like oh my god, you know, just
one of those competitive things like get under your skin.
But you could see the leader he was as a player.
He kind of stepped away from football a little bit,
worked in the business world, you know, leadership skills there
and comes back. And I was there when I came
back when he was starting to coach, and you could
just see the guys gravitate to him. And I think

(27:04):
you look at Gerard and you say, Okay, he's a
former player, stands what I'm going through. And I think
that's what allowed him to kind of push these guys
in training camp, and they talked about it, this is
one of the most physical training camps they've had.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
He made them run the hill every day, just like
Bill and You talked about being in better shape. At
the end of that game, they run, they run the ball,
you know, when Cincinnati knows they're going to run the
ball and finish with the ball and taking a knee.
And so I think that game really embody probably who
Gerard was as a player. That's how that team played.
It's exactly what you know, I thought they they should

(27:36):
and could look like. And now you just got to
go out and do it again. We were talking about
it like, Okay, you laid one brick. Now you got
a tough Seattle team coming in. They're they're flying across
the country early eastern start, early window, and so you
have you can't just take this momentum and say, yeah,
it was a great story, but you got to go
on and repeat it and repeat it and repeat it.
And I think they have a formula now, and David

(27:58):
Andrews hit on. He goes, you know, if we just
changed two of those fuels and the touchdowns when we
get in that red area, it's a much larger deficit
for a team to overcome. So I think they laid
one brick in that foundation, and they continue to try
to do that the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I got some more questions on this current team and
what we saw on Sunday. So you mentioned the training
camp in a post twenty twenty CBA World. I feel
like training camp is almost akin to summer camp in
a way, where yes, you're going to work out, but
like everything we heard out of New England was that
it was the toughest training camp and it was so hard,

(28:34):
And yet when you watch them on the field on Sunday,
they're grinding out those extra yards and they're able to
play at a different pace than maybe Cincinnati was. So
knowing the barriers of the CBA and there's no more
two A days and you can't do stuff in certain
ways with pads. What did Mayo do that is so
specific that makes this team ready to go and seem
like they're in midseas informed when their opponent did not

(28:56):
look like that.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Well, I think you just preached competition the whole training camp.
It was like, no matter who's out there, we're competing.
And then there was a few days where they went
full live tackling. You know, they went pads a lot
within the new rules of the CBA. He pushed them
and then every day, you know, just like we used
to do with Bill was had they got the hill
over there, he'd run over the hill and make sure
they're in shape because a lot of these guys aren't
playing a lot of plays in the preseason, so you

(29:18):
got to get them in shape somehow, some way. And
I think, you know, you see it. I saw a
few quotes today. Guys want to run through a brick
wall for Giradimeo. And when guys feel like that about
your head coach, you can push them as much as
you want and then to go out there and validate
that by winning the results on the board, the results,
and that allows you to push it a little bit
more and and hold people accountable a little bit more,

(29:40):
and people buy in a little bit more. And so
you know, like I said, it's one brick in that foundation.
And you could see it. You could see the reactions
in the locker room Girod getting the game ball. One
thing that struck me was Jacoby Brissette was like, yeah,
I was emotional, you know, emotional for the opportunity. I cry.
You know. Girod came up to me and said, hey man,
I believe in you. You're going to ball out and

(30:00):
win us this game. He's like I've never really had
a coach talk to me that way before. And I
think Girod, being a young guy, a guy who played,
understands the value of knowing that you know, when the
players know you care about them, they will they will
literally run through a brick wall for you.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
There also seems to be this, you know, air of
secrecy and paranoia and whatever it was under Belichick that
seems to be lifted. Like Girod talks, he runs his mouth.
He's free to have these players talk. You can say
whatever you want. Just be ready to play. Does it
feel lighter in New England now? Like nothing against coach Belichick,
but this is a younger generation, and quite frankly, it

(30:36):
seems like Mayo is connecting with them in a different way.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think the one thing,
you know, when I thought, okay, who replaces Bill the
greatest coach of all time? Those are tough shoes to
fill no matter what. And I know the last two years,
few years weren't what they were, but it's still tough
because those are the memories you have of coach Belichick.
But the thing that Girod did, he played for Bill,
so he knows the culture. He knows, you know, what

(31:00):
he wants it to be, like he coached under Bill,
and I think he looked at it like, I know
what it takes to win, and I've been a part
of those winning organizations. But times are different. I want
to put my own spin on it. But I can
still be tough. I mentioned to him in one of
our preseason you know meetings, I said, you know, you're
a player's coach, and he kind of pushed back, and

(31:20):
they said, I just want to be a good coach.
And I said, I don't think you're a players coach
because you're you know, friends with the players, or you
take it easy on him. I said, you're a player's
coach because you're a former player. And those guys look
at you. And when you sit up in front of
a group a team meeting and you address them, no
one's questioning, like, man, this guy's never been through it.
He doesn't know what he's talking about. And there's a
lot of great coaches who never played. But I think

(31:42):
you talk about a younger generation and they come in
and they say, wow, this guy was an All Pro player,
he was a captain. You know right away you grab
some of these young guys attention, it's different era guys
coming in with Nio money. We had guys out in
Vegas last year who took a pay cut to come
play for the Raiders. So it's just a different you know,
mentality and these players, you know, they come in and

(32:02):
that's the times that we're living in. And I think
that with young guys, and we talked about it before,
Now they'll believe them a little bit more. They'll they'll
buy in a little bit more, and they'll they'll work
a little bit harder. And that doesn't mean they're going
to go to the playoffs and win the super Bowl.
But a lot of times, you know, with organizations and transition,
building the foundation, sometimes it might take a seven and

(32:25):
nine year and and Ayton nine year whatever it is.
But then in year two you've built that foundation and
you you stack them together and you're in the playoffs
and then all of a sudden you're making a run
for it. So you know, a lot like I look
at the Houston Texans, a sneaky team, a young quarterback.
They've Nick Casseroo done a tremendous job, obviously a former
New England guy, building a unit around a rookie quarterback

(32:47):
before you've got to go pay them this massive extension
and make a run at it. And they a similar situation,
a young defensive minded coach who played a lot of
great football on Demico Ryans and I think you're starting
to see kind of that model, you know, Dan Campbell
and Detroit. It's kind of out there in Las Vegas
where I was here to say, and so you know,

(33:08):
that doesn't necessarily make you a great coach. I think
Girad benefits not only from being a former player, but
also learning from Bill not only as the player, but
also he was in those coaching meetings for the past
four years, so he's seen it from both sides and
learned from Bill and now is taking you know, what
he learned and putting his own spin and flavor on it.
And you can see the guys really.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Like, yeah, no doubt rapping with the Patriots. I think
it's interesting that they came out and they performed that way.
You know Brissette really well. Obviously having been you know,
Patriots quarterback and yourself having such a connection to the team,
have you had a chance to get to know Drake

(33:50):
May at all for the Patriots fans listening, just a
little sprinkle of maybe what we can see with Drake
May down the line. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I mean I had him in one production meeting and
you know, he comes in, says all the right things,
is working hard. You know, talk to Alex van Pelt
about him. You know, he's doing everything and more that
they're asked of him, you know, with talking about technology
and this generation, this Apple Vision pro if someone's developed
a three D model that these guys can go in
and take extra rep So I know he's doing a

(34:17):
lot of that in this car time and yeah, it's
really cool. So you know, he's working really hard. And
the one thing that I've always said is, and Tom
Brady kind of echoed this, it's always good for a
young guy if you can come in and learn from
a really good veteran. And I had the privilege to
come in and watch Tom for my first four years
of my career and just soak it all in. And
I think, you know, say what you want about Jacoby,

(34:38):
but he's been a successful quarterback. He's you know, nine
seasons in, he started for multiple teams, and he does
it the right way. I was there with him in
Indianapolis when that was his first year as a starter,
Andrew Luck, you know, suddenly retires. I thought there to
be his backup, and immediately from day one, he was
a leader on that team. He ran the meetings, He
had good meetings with the receivers and they were on

(34:59):
the same page. And I think, you know, just seeing
that from a pro and coming in every day and
seeing how Jacoby's going to prepare and all those things
that will do wonders for drake Ma and his career
if he just sits there, you know, uses this time
to not only make himself better, but see how a
real pro approaches the game.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, okay, I'm going to give you some names. I
would like some rapid fire, your best story. You didn't
prepare yourself for this, but I love stories. Okay, we
had the roast, but I'm sure there's a story that
hasn't been told. Your funniest Tom Brady's story. What do
you got?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Oh man? I think one thing that comes to mind.
And another guy who's in you know, a hot topic
right now is Bill O'Brien And we used to call
him the teapot and literally, you know, we never knew
when Billy was going to fly off the handle. And
there was one time where these two and I know
a lot's been shown of this, this back and forth
on the sideline when Tom throws an interception and he's

(35:51):
kind of getting after Taekwon Underwood, who's a receiver coach
here now in New England, and these two going after it,
and I have like one of the big coats. It
was a cold day and I'm trying to shield them.
But we had this teapot and every day we'd come
in and be like, all right, Billy, you're on the
teapot again, and we'd write it down and we still
have it. It's like a trophy and it's like the
Stanley Cup. And by the end of the year, the
whole teapot was filled. And so we had so many

(36:12):
great times. I mean, for me, you know, I don't
know if my career goes fifteen years if I don't
spend those first four years, you know, learning from him.
And then you know, I had the unique experience to
come back and be here, you know, at his last
years in New England, and and just garner that friendship
and relationship. But those were some great times with Bill O'Brien,
just you know, kind of always you know, right on

(36:32):
each other's cage, seeing what we could get out of it,
and had some great moments there.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
What about Brady's level of celebrity, Like this is the
most famous man in the world, and yet you guys
were at a workplace together and often wearing sweatpants and
T shirts, like when you would go out into the public.
What was it like being around Brady the rock star?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, it was crazy. I mean I remember one time
at the super Bowl in Indianapolis, we were having like
a team dinner at Saint Elmos and just trying to
you know, riding over with him, trying to get in
and the amount of people there. And one time, you know,
right when I came back in twenty seventeen, our first
game was out in Den and then we were going
to Mexico City, So we spent the week in between
and Colorado Springs and it was Friday night. You know,

(37:11):
there wasn't a ton to do, but you want to
go and get away from football a little bit. So
we went to go see a movie and that was me,
Tom and Alex Guerrero and Alex had rented like a
little Mustang, so it's the three of us I'm in
the back seat, like sideways, and we go in the
movie and and Tom was, you know, very you know
what movie?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I think it was I think it was Justice League,
one of the DC superhero leads at the time been out. Yeah, yeah,
I think so, one of those. And uh, and you know,
but Tom was very you know, casual, put his head
down and you know, kind of he's like, you guys,
get the tickets, I'll meet you by the entry. And
no one, no one really knew, but somehow someone must
have recognized him, because by the time we got out,

(37:52):
there was just people waiting for for us, you know,
for him. When we walked out, and he's like, come on,
we got to get in the car quick. And while
the movie had been playing, it started snowing, so they're like, hoy,
you take the keys and drive. Alex gets better in
the back seat and I'm like, oh my god, like
I'm driving this two wheel drive Mustang in the snow
and get a car. Yeah yeah, but getaway car. And

(38:12):
literally people are following us back to the hotel, and
it's just it just shows it's a different lifestyle, different level.
But he handles it so well. And and I think
the one thing that he always enjoyed and he talked
about it even at his Hall of Fame induction here
in Fox Rows. Just when he came in, he just
got to be one of the guys. And that's what,
you know, it was so great about him, and we
kept him humble, and we cracked jokes on him, and

(38:33):
Julian was always Julian always had something to crack on time.
And I think I think that's what, you know, made
him love it even more because he came in and
you know what it was going out on around outside,
but when he came in, he was one of fifty
three guys and we were all, you know, working towards
the same goal, and that was you know, that was
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
What about Edelman when he first got there, I can't
imagine him being the same guy as when he left.
He had to come in as like scrappy and humble
as a seventh round pick and maybe a quarterback, maybe
a wide receiver. But like I work with him now,
he's one of the biggest personalities, confident as anyone I've
ever met. But like I can't imagine coming in with
that bravado when he first got there was he.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
He always loves to tell the story that because we
came in together and he was a seventh round pick
and I was undrafted. And by the end of that draft,
I wasn't even watching, so I remember, you know, my
agent called me. He's like, hey, they drafted this guy's
a quarterback. But I don't. I mean, he's not really
an NFL quarterback, so you don't really need to worry
about him. And so then, you know, Julian loves to
tell the story. He was at Kent State and I
was coming from Cleveland, so we were on the same

(39:30):
flight together, and I'm like, this guy ain't playing quarterback.
A little did I know he was going to become,
you know, the most productive NFL receiver in playoff history.
But we used to, you know, we were just guys
trying to make the team, and so at night we
would go come back from training camp and we'd be studying.
I'd be calling plays and Julian would be, you know,
lining up in the hotel room and we'd go get
extra reps in the bubble. And really, you know, Julian

(39:52):
was kind of a late bloomer in a sense because
it kind of took four or five years. It was
really after I left that Julian kind of became the guy.
You know. Welker moved on to Denver and Julian notoriously,
you know, followed Tom around, was like, hey, I'm here
if you need me to catch for you. And it
all paid off. And that was Julian's kind of relentlessness,
you know, finding its way through there. And and but

(40:13):
it's funny. I remember when we were rookies. You know,
I'm just trying to learn the playbook and understand what
I was supposed to do, and we break the huddle
and he sometimes he looked at me like, hey, what
do I got? And I'd be like alpha blueau and
I'm like you figure it out about all, that's right.
So but we had some late night walk throughs in
that hotel, the residence in Foxborough, and you know, like
I said, I had a unique perspective. I was here

(40:34):
four years, gone for a few came back and you
know that in that short time, Julian became a leader
on the team, a go to guy. One of these
guys who really you know, was mister New England. And
so you know, it's always it's always fun to reminisce
of you know, the times before you know he was
big time, but he was you know, you always saw
that he had the work ethic and and wasn't going

(40:55):
to let any opportunity pass him by.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
About Gronk, do you have a good Gronk story out
in the town with Gronk or just living the life
of Gronk, Because I think he's one of the biggest
person Outi's this sport has ever seen.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, I mean, Gronk's just to me is just that
big kid who just loves loves playing football, loves life.
And I think a lot is made like, oh, he's
this big meathead. He's one of the most sweet gentle guys.
I mean, we saw him recently at Tom's Hall of
Fame induction here and he came up to my wife
and he's like, I'll never forget you know, when he
got hurt the one year you know he's living on

(41:26):
his own, we offered him, we cooked him. He's like,
I'll never forget you made me that lasagna that one
time when I when I was hurt. And it's like, wow,
like I kind of forgot about that, but just it
just shows you the type of person he is, and
you know, I talk about it's been pretty cool for
my son to kind of grow up around these guys.
And I have a great picture we were coming back
from Tom's retirement party and they're on the front of

(41:48):
the boat. You talk about the trio, Gronk Edelman and
Ammondola and right sandwich between those those three who are
recovering from the night before. As my son just laying
there next to these guys, and but they're so you know,
so genuine. And he knew right away when Rob came
that this is a once in a lifetime player. I mean,
I've played long enough that you go out on the

(42:09):
field and you're like, this guy was built to play football.
Rob was one of those guys, Calvin Johnson, Julius Pepper's,
JJ Watt, Derrick Henry. You go out there and you're like, man,
am I really playing the same.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Sport as we got the same species? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Right, But I'll never forget I actually got to throw
him his first touchdown pass in the season. Yeah. I
mean it wasn't regular season, but in the preseason I
threw him a seam and I remember thinking, like I
came off the play action and I looked and I'm like, wow,
he's thirty yards away. It looks like he's ten yards away,
this huge, massive target and he always brings that up.

(42:41):
And then another one. I actually threw him his pass
to set the tight end record for receiving yards because
it was at the end of the twenty eleven season
and it was Jimmy Graham and him were going back
and forth, back and forth, and we're kind of monitoring,
monitoring it during the game and it was kind of
a blowout and I was in there kind of running
out the clock, and all of a sudden, Bill O'Brien's like, hey,
Gronk needs five yards to set the record. Is okay?

Speaker 1 (43:04):
We always think that? Does that? What exist?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah? And you would not think with Bill, but Bill
was on top of it. He knew. And they're like,
we're just gonna send him out there and let him
just run a five yard hitch, just throw it to him. Well,
a five yard hitch versus press coverage converts and that's
usually a route that a tight end would run. So
I'm like under center, I'm like, oh my god, it's press.
Is he going to know what to do? And you
go back and I kind of double clutch it, he

(43:27):
converts it, I throw a fade, he gets his speed down,
which was even that was kind of questionable. So we
had to get to the line of scrimmage and snapped
the next play just to make sure a got in
the record books.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
And he did it all right. A few more because
I don't know if you overlapped with him, and I
don't like the resumes out here, but I think when
you see these these clips online, if people just naming
random athletes from like different generations, I think one day
someone's just going to say Jimmy Garoppolo and everyone's gonna say, yeah,
Jimmy went to a super Bowl and Jimmy was with
the Patriot won Super Bowl. It's like, did you ever

(43:57):
overlap with Jimmy? What kind of guy is Jimmy? Because
I think he's also one of these people that you
project he's just like Hollywood playboy. But every time I've
dealt with him, that is not the case.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, not the case. So Jimmy and I have had
an interesting dance. We actually were traded for each other,
which that's even a long story because I get a
call from Kyle He's like, hey, we're trading you back
to New England. And I was like, what, I'm out
buying a Halloween costume with my son. He's like, yeah,
they're trading us, Jimmy, and Bill wants you to go back,
and I was like all right, cool. And then you
get the call there that night and Bill's like, look,
I mean we're going to trade for you, but like
it would really benefit you and us if you just

(44:27):
like ask them to release you and come sign it.
Come come here and sign you, because you know, like
compensory competitory picks. And I'm like, all right, Bill, whatever,
and that's fine. So we kind of crossed, you know,
coasts in that in that trade, and then met him
at the Derby a few years later, and then oddly
enough last year we end up being teammates in Vegas
and yeah, you said, everyone has this Hollywood heart throb

(44:51):
kind of view of Jimmy, and he's really just this sweet,
gentle guy, and you know, he's got these looks and
he would always try to get me to do abs
with them at the end of the day and I'm like, Jimmy,
I've been married for fourteen years, Like you're still out
on the prow I'm good. I don't need that. I'm
going home to my wife and she doesn't care if
I have abs or not. But I remember, yeah, I
had the dad bod, like like Mahomes and he's got

(45:13):
the anti dad bod. But you know, when you got
to live up to that that persona, you got to
have the look.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
I think it's it's actually interesting because I go through
your career college, you were the starter, and if I'm
not mistaken, Kirk Cousins was the backup.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Well, my junior year, Nick Foles was my backup and
then he in a transfer to Arizona, and my senior year,
Kirk was the backup. So we had a pretty good
quarterback room my junior year and then you know, I
left and then eventually Kirk ended up taking over over
there in Michigan State.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
That's a young college aged Kirk Cousins like.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Oh man, exactly what you see now just a little
bit less. I mean, Kirk was just, you know, right
by the book, exactly what you would expect from him.
You know, kind of he calls it his dad, you know,
dork swag or whatever. But imagine that before he was
a dad, he was even he was even more so.
But you know, he worked hard, and you know he's
had a tremendous career. I mean you look at what

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you know, he was like a one star recruit, didn't
really have any offers till coach D'Antonio became the new
head coach. They offered him, and he's just worked his
way up and had a tremendous career.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
All right, My last one is a head coach, and
it's not Belichick. It's a guy who hasn't for whatever reason,
hasn't been able to win the big one. And he's
as brilliant an offensive mine in the league. And you
play you played for him when he first got his
first head coaching job in San Francisco. Do you have
any Kyle Shanahan stories to tell us the genius or
the mad genius of the guy out there in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Man, I've learned so much from Kyle. I mean, really,
that was my first true opportunity as a starting quarterback
in Cleveland when he was the offensive coordinator and just
trying to learn that West Coast system, something that I
wasn't familiar with, and there were some rough times. I mean,
I'll never forget playing I think it was Baltimore and
you were running one of these boots, one of these nakeds,
and Kyle always said, like, you got to get your
eyes around because it's your responsibility. If someone blitzing off

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the edge and I didn't see it and I got tattooed,
I could not breathe. I threw the ball away and
I come over the sideline and I'm like literally like
trying to trying to take a breath. He's like, you
know that was your fault, right, you know that's your fault.
That's yours. And I'm like, Kyle, that's not helping right now,
that's not not the encouraging words he's But then he
really cool, He's all right, let's go, let's talk about
the next series. I'm thinking this, and he is that

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mad genius. Like we were talking with Matt Lighton, like
walking past Bill Belichick in the hall is an awkward situation,
and that's for one reason. And walking past Kyle Shanahan,
you can just see it's like Zach galfanekis and the
hangover when he's trying like Kyle's walking, yeah, Kyle's walking
down the hallway. It's like he doesn't even see you
there because he's like, you know, there's x's and oh's

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going across his brain and and he got better when
he got to when he got to San Francisco. But
I remember in Cleveland like walking by, like what's up, Kyle,
and he'd like and you just keep walking and they're like, man,
he's he's focused. But I learned so much about you know,
offense and really zone defense from him. He was obsessed
with how you know, the past game can affect zone defense.
And when I was there in San Francisco, we had

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Robert Salah was the defensive coordinator who now head co coach,
and you know, I learned so much about you know,
quarterback fundamentals from him. And you know, you've seen how
he's been able to evolve his scheme over time, and
you know it's it truly is a mad genius.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Is Purty the perfect fit for him, because it's like
Purdy almost seems like I don't want to say robotic,
that sounds insulting, but like Purty is just he gets it,
he sees it, he gets it. He's not trying to
do too much, and he delivers well.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
The one thing that I always you know, I don't
want to say fought Kyle on but I was. I
was trained in this Patriots system where the quarterback had
a lot to handle with the line of scrimmage, and
I wanted to know where's the rotation. I wanted to
know who the mic point is and and that's kind
of how I was trained. And so going to Kyle,
he wants to take all of that off the quarterback's plate,
and to me, it took me a while to understand,

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like the benefits of that. And when you see him
get a brock Party who knows nothing but Kyle's system.
I kind of said it when we were on the show.
You know, going into the Super Bowl, brock Party is
Kyle's avatar out on the field. And Kyle, you know,
he would talk because so much for me was about
the game plan. He's like, don't worry about I'll call
to play at the right I got it. I got it,

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And that that made me nervous because it's like I
want it to be in my hands. I want to know,
I want to change the play at the line of tremage.
That's just how I learned, you know, professional football. But
you know he's had purty from the infancy stage, and
he's molded him exactly how he wants him. And when
I watched Brock play, I realized that's exactly the guy.
And I think even Jimmy, you know, Jimmy had success

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with Kyle, but you know Jimmy would add live at times,
and I think that would drive Kyle insane. And Kyle's
found a guy in Brock who literally, if if Kyle said, hey, Brock,
on this play, when you take a five step drop
and throw it out of bounce to the left, Brock
would say, okay, coach, and he would do it. And
it's been really and like he said, it's not an insult.
It's just believing in your coach, believing in the system.

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And it's been a proven thing that they've got going.
And you know, we talk about it. You know, every
team ends the year the same way except one team.
It's a crash landing. Whether you don't make the playoffs
or you lose in the Super Bowl, there's only one
team that's going to be happy at the end of
the year, and that's the team who wins Super Bowl.
And so if you're putting yourself in the position and
I heard Peyton talk about it last night. I'd rather be,

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you know, the first loser and lose in the super
Bowl and then not make the playoffs at all. And
you're just a few plays away. And I'm sure you
know they continue. They have a really good team, and
Kyle continues to evolve as a coach. They'll always be
in contention.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
All right, as we wrap have the Green Bay Packers
called you yet, as Jordan Love is injured and we're
looking at Malik Willison Sean Clifford on the death.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Chart, haven't got that call yet.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Nope, okay, all right, phone is open. And if Goody's listening,
this is a guy who could still sling it, although
he does have Monday seventh grade football practices, so he
might have to work around that. That's the will figure.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, I always said, you know some of these guys
I know around the league. I'm like, hey, remember when
Josh McCown was like the practice squad quarterback from Afar.
I'm like, hey, just zoom me into some meetings something now,
I'll fly out. I'll be ready to go.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
I can help you. Brian. I so appreciate this. You
killed it week one. You were the only person I
saw picked the Patriots to win, and then you had
the data and the information to break it down. I
know you're new at this media thing, but I can
listen to your stories for days and I so appreciate
you joining the season with Peter Schrager. What an awesome
experience this was.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, anytime Peter, anything for you. Man, You're awesome.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
You're awesome too, dude. All right, guys, Brian Hoyer amazing.
And the Patriots they've they want to know, but let's
see if they can keep it going next week. Brian
Hoyer was great. I love stories. I also love that,
like he was there and he was there all summer,

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and he was there for the preseason, he was there
for the build up the week one and he goes
on television and he's like, Yeah, the Patrit's trying to
win this game. Meanwhile, I'm sitting with my Tommy Bahama
shorts on on the beach with a cigar in my mouth.
I'm like, Oh, the Bengals have Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow.
They're gonna win. Sometimes it matters who's on the ground,
who can get a vibe for a team, and Hoyer
new and I love that. Kyle Shanahan. Stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
What a quote?

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Rock Perty is like the avatar for Kyle Shanahan. Good stuff, Hoyer.
I'll probably have him on again. That was really good.
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