Sex Education Class

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Shall we tanja yeah, tanja UM. A lot of people
in the DMS, uh what they said that last night
during the super Bowl halftime show, all they could think
about was Klin. That was all they could think about.
And never and then uh, oh baby, when you talk

(00:24):
like that, we um. We considered a bit where you
would be Shakira coming in to talk more about the
super Bowl halftime show, except you, um, you didn't think
you could actually speak like that. You can only do
the singing. I don't even know what her voice sounds.
She doesn't yodel when she talks, you know, just when
she sings. Yeah, I know, I know, actually don't. Yeah,

(00:47):
I'm not going to be doing that. But yeah when
she when that hip still Life song was was big,
I was in the club and she was there and
nobody knew it was her, like like security knew that
it was her, but she came with a guy I
think or a girl, and she said, don't I don't
want anyone to know, Like it was in Dallas, and
so she just kind of looked like another really attractive

(01:07):
Hispanic girl and so she I guess she told security
like you can watch out for me, but I don't
want a scene because the scene results in more So
she was just there dancing in a nightclub and whatever,
and it was like really, but nobody no one did
anything because I think I think nobody believed that it
could be her. Yeah, because if you think about it,
a lot of these celebrities they make this big scene
with this huge entourage, and then they want to know

(01:29):
what they get fucked with, and it's like, because you
are making a big scene, right. I think if there's
some I mean, certainly some celebrities, like you would know
who they were and you'd bother them, and they need security.
But there are others. I think that if you saw
them in a movie theater or something with a hat on,
you might look, but then like now, oh, there's no
way you could go under the radar. Yeah, I think
it's true. It's Fred and Angie's the Tangents giving you

(01:49):
all this we couldn't talk about on air. Um, this
BuzzFeed article somebody who I don't know who sent this,
but BuzzFeed article about the things that people are being
taught to day in school, sex ad WHOA, that's all
whack And I think I'm dying to know what is?
What is some stuff that you thought about sex before

(02:11):
you learned, like for real, like I thought the vagina
was in the front. You did, yeah, like because you
because when people like when people when you're little and
you think of humping and you've never done it, you
don't know. It's always like the idea of two people
on top of each other. But what I didn't I
never put together that it was in like in between
underneath kind of and not like that, you like the
penis didn't go straight into the thought like my mom

(02:36):
instead of being like honest about it and having a
real conversation. My mom told me that babies that came
out of your belly button, and I believe that for
quite a while. That's one that's on here too, is
that there are some people who still believe that what
or like or like they have to be convinced that
the babies doesn't they don't come out of the belly
button or whatever. And it wasn't that my parents were
not open about stuff like that. We just and if

(02:56):
I had asked them, they would have explained it to me.
We just didn't really talk about it, Like there were
a lot of things we just didn't talk about it.
In my family, and again not because anybody was ashamed
of it or because we couldn't, but everybody was pretty modest.
It's so weird because my mom was like the mom
that like walked around the house naked and stuff. But
then when it came to having sex talk with me,
it never happened. Even like when I got my period,

(03:16):
she threw a box of tampons at me and said
readinstruction and like oh, I was like oh okay. So
there wasn't a lot of that talk. And then you
end up, you know, getting information from your friends. That's
always like bullshit, you know, because they don't know what
they're doing either. Was that friends like you were a
friend that was giving information, like I really knew what

(03:37):
I would love to hear this. What kind of information
were you providing new others Paulina, Well, I mean when
I was younger, like because we would have to go
to like sex said classes, they would separate the boys
and the girls, right, So I would take some of
that information that I would take a pull from like
my mom and kind of like mix it all together.
So I used to say like that, Um, what did
I say? Oh that like you can get pregnant? Um,
even if like they don't not inside of you. I

(03:57):
used to think that, like than you can, you can,
but you can. You can't get pregnant if the guy
isn't fully nut inside of you, as you would say,
nuts inside of you. You know what, You're trying to
get my mouth pregnant? What's going on? Like, no, like
in fact you in fact that you have every I
think it's basically every opportunity to get pregnant from the

(04:18):
precum that you do from the big nut. And you could, right,
but like at the time that guy didn't really know
you were saying to not even have sex. So you
were actually right about that, but you didn't know it.
If you were like humping with clothes on. I used
to say, you can get pregnant, so I thought you could,
like if we had cloth. Yeah, I was like, you can't, right,
That's what I tell my kids. That's right. I'm paying

(04:40):
some child support on some situations like that. Right now,
you're feeling me. That's true. Yeah, to be kidding me.
What the things that people like, the dumb things, well,
some of these are like heavy, Like, um, I'm a
middle schooler in sex head right now. I was reading
a paragraph about abstinence. That disgusted me. As said in
bold letters, perks of staying abstinant. Staying abstinent can keep

(05:01):
you safe from rape and molestation. Uh No, that's ridiculous.
That's really being taught. That's insane. That is insane, because
that is, of course entirely untrue. Number two on this
list from BuzzFeed. I teach it to middle school and
there's absolutely zero sex education. The seventh grade student asked
me how her older sister's baby was going to come

(05:22):
out of her belly button. See, and you're in seventh grade. Wow,
I mean I learned that that's not where they came
from before seventh grade. But I just learned it right now,
So comes out the front. I didn't know until I
actually had a mike. Why is it coming out of there?
It's supposed to be coming out my belly button. Last year,

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when I was a freshman, they gave us a packet
that talks about STDs condomns in birth control, and then
at the end of the packet there was an area
where you would sign that said that you would refrain
from sex until you were married. I didn't sign, but
it was encouraged that you should that's crazy. Well, I
was taught that the only way to not get pregnant
is to never have sex. They never taught us about

(06:03):
condoms or birth controls. I think there are a lot
of people who believe that if you teach your kids
about contraception, that you're enabling them, and I think in
some ways, you're just accepting what could be and giving
them another option, because if you don't have that conversation
at all, then you're running the risk that they're going
to do it anyway. And yet they're gonna do it
without the proper information. I mean, contraceptions not just for

(06:25):
preventing pregnancies. You have to like keep them safe. There's diseases,
there's so many other things, and well, of course, but
I mean, but yeah, it's not enabling, it's educating because
they're going to do it anyway. And you're crazy to
think that if you just preach abstinence, that that's the
way it's going to be. Well, I don't want to
misquote my parents. I think the story is right. But
when I was twelve or thirteen and my mom, who

(06:48):
did my laundry, put my laundry on my bed with
a Costco size box of Magnum condoms. She included that
she has more faith in me than I have in me.
But I guess she gave you like a Costco size
like bag of tube socks or something. No, she did
that too, but no, but she I guess I guess

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that was an internal debate between my mom and my father,
because I guess my father thought that was like, essentially
he was saying that if she give if you give
him the condoms, it's like you're saying it's okay to
go do this. And again, I don't want to be
wrong about this. I know there was some conversation about
whether that was the right thing to do, and I
think her thing was, well, I'd rather that he not
be embarrassed to buy them and then not use them,

(07:32):
if that is the thing. Little does she know, I
never use those condoms, and I wouldn't having sex for
like another six year or so. Um, I'm a female
student who's taking sex head now. The funniest thing to
me is how often they refer to penises and male
anatomy but rarely discussed vajohna's and female anatomy. So like,
you don't say the V word, but you say the
P word, like that's easier. Um. We were given a

(07:53):
pamphlet and thirty minute lecture and that was it. I
guess another thing. This is stuff that people are learning
in sex head that may not be true or isn't true.
We were taught that abstinence lots and lots of it.
Were taught about that and showing pictures of STDs and
told that we would get them if we had sex.
What kind of schools are these people going to? Wow?

(08:13):
A lot of different ones. I'm a high school student.
Let me tell you, sex said is not taught very well.
During our last sex said class, somebody asked, does a vegetable?
Does using a vegetable to stimulate yourself? Put you in
danger of STDs? Well? Doing those carrots back there? Yeah?
If you probably if you use them and eat them

(08:35):
at don't put those back. I've been teaching sex out
of a high school for almost fourteen years and I
am still teaching the same curriculum as I was during
my first year. We've experienced a decade of new discoveries
and busted myths and don't change the thing when it
comes to educating kids about this stuff. And I hate
to be that guy who brings up porn. But I

(08:56):
also have to wonder as a kid, as a young
person who doesn't have a lot of sexual experience or
any with with porn being so easily accessible, does it
create the idea that that's what sex is, and that
that's how it goes down, and that's how you should
treat a woman or a man, and that the and
and that all of this stuff is mainstream. I think

(09:16):
they think that that's how you're supposed to do it
all the time. Yeah, I wonder about that. Yeah. I
went to public high school for a few years. In
the health class was a nightmare. My teacher would consistently
remind the class that she was Catholic, so she didn't
believe in the things that she had to teach us. Uh.
I had a teacher like that, it wasn't for sex,
said though. She Uh, she we did like muscles or

(09:39):
I don't know, anatomy or something. And she would bring
in like she go to the butcher. She was a vegetarian,
and she would go to like the butcher and buy
the off pieces that the butcher like of muscle and
bones and just the most disgusting stuff she could find.
Bring it in and use that to teach about anatomy
and about like animals, and and it was clearly a

(10:01):
way to further her agenda, which was that you know,
not to eat meat. This is what it looks like,
this is what you're eating, YadA YadA. And for like
six months, I wouldn't eat meat. My mom was so pissed.
I think she wouldn't talk to her, you know, like look, lady, yeah,
you do what you want to do. But like my
kids got to eat meat because he's like he's got
to fit into these magnum condoms. He's eleven ways forty
seven pounds, So like I got to feed this kids something.

(10:23):
Can you shut the fuck up? Like I remember, And
I don't know what class. It would either like a
health class or a science class though that they would show,
you know, like the farming, like some of the videos
that you would see, like a peto type video, but
they would show it just for like you know, perspective,
perspective of like I wasn't old enough. We weren't old

(10:44):
enough to make those decisions based on knowledge, Like we
didn't know the health or or lack of health benefits,
or we weren't learning about nutrition or protein or it
was just like literally was looking how gross this is
and this is what you're eating, and yeah it is,
I guess, but like it wasn't. I don't think it
was being presented in a way that gave us a
choice of that we had the maturity to even understand

(11:05):
versus just don't eat meat because it's gross. Anyway, let
me see here, I'm a sophomore and a health class.
We just watch movies about bullying an anorexia, and look
up super easy dictionary words. In our textbook. We don't
even talk about sex. I remember sex, said class just
being really like sterile, like learning about the philoprium tubes

(11:26):
and like any like it was more of an anatomy.
You know what's funny is we've done this before on
the show, where we've we've like laid out the anatomy
of men and women, and most people don't know how
their body works. Like that's the interesting part is I
think they should probably be teaching that stuff because I
think they're most people don't. They can't even identify the
parts on their own body. Yeah, and this is a
little bit frightening. But the other thing is, if you're

(11:48):
a teacher like a defensive teachers, how do you teach
sex at now? Because everyone's offended and everyone you know, no,
I don't know, everyone thinks that their parenting style and
their technique and whatever they read on the internet's better
than everybody else is, so there is no one way
to do it. I would assume that you would have to,
I don't know, give it the parents a had up
before you know you do the sex said classes and

(12:10):
sort of tell the parents, like what's going to be involved,
to let them know because I'm sure like there's always
going to be a parent that has a problem with it.
But then if you're a parent who's not going to
allow your kids to be in that class, then I
feel like you have to commit yourself to teaching them
because whether you want to do it or let a
teacher do it, like it has to be done, and
it sounds like in a lot of these examples it's

(12:30):
not being done at all. It's either I what I
learned at school or what I don't when I learned
at home, and none of it's right right, I don't know.
This goes back to my thing about classes. They need
to be there need to be more real world classes
in schools for sure. You know, it's the same thing
about this whole stigma that you know, trade schools are
bad or something, or trade schools are lesser than a

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four year college. Like, no, nothing wrong with trade schools.
If you want to go be an electrician or a
plumber or a carpenter, or you'll always have a job,
you should do it. You can make good money doing it.
You should not be ashamed of that. It is not
lesser than And I think the same is true with
high school and education in general, which is, well, if
we don't teach kids how to do calculus, and we
don't teach kids, you know, I don't know a bunch

(13:14):
of stuff, then they're gonna be idiots. It's like, well,
they may or may not remember that. And I would
agree that there's a basis, like some of that stuff
has to be taught, right, But I also think there's
there's other stuff that kids leave high school not knowing
how to do, and then he's supposed to For some people,
that's the end of their education and they're gonna go
on in the real world and they don't know how
to do basic stuff. I have this talk with my
daughter all the time. She's terrified to be an adult,
like terrified, and I like, she's a freshman in high school.

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I couldn't wait to graduate and be an adult and
go start my life. She's like, I don't know how
to do anything, like I'm scared to death. She's gonna
be eighteen and three years and she's like, I don't
know how to do this, dude. I'm like, well, you
have time and blah blah blah. And she's like, why
don't they teach that kind of stuff in school. She's
irritated that they don't. And I'm like, well, you know,
I'll teach you those things as you go along. By Yeah,
it's crazy, and my parents were good parents. They tell

(13:59):
me a lot of stuff, but there was other stuff
I didn't know how to do. And luckily I had
them to call upon because they knew the answers even
when they didn't teach me. They knew the answers. A
lot of people like like financial literacy. A lot of people,
most people, I feel like, don't know anything about financial literacy.
I would be stacked. It was the best thing my parents,
differently was teaching me about spending and literally maybe it

(14:19):
was the best thing they did for me. Yeah, if
you don't have the money, you can't buy it. That's it.
And that was the attitude. And that's not the attitude.
As a grown up. You know, you do take loans
out on things and and you know you make smart
financial decisions, but as a kid, if you don't have
the cash, you can't afford it. That. Yeah, nobody taught
me about that either. No, we didn't have any money. Yeah,
so it was so I think that they just thought, like,
we're gonna teacher about money for like, I don't have

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anything to teach, Like there's a reason the money we
did have wasn't mine. So and that was important too.
You know. It was like you want something, to go
out and figure out how to make it. But I
love that your parents like we're able to teach you everything.
My mom kind of did the same thing for me.
But I had friends like that I went to like
high school with at a grammar school, and like, you know,
their parents were undocumented stuff, so for them, like buying
a house so unheard of, Like I couldn't buy a
house to save my life right now. But like they

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weren't taught that, you know what I'm saying. Or like
student loans or whatever. Like it was just like it's
a different kind of dynamic. But I feel like they
need to teach They yeah, teach you this stuff in
high school, like you have to learn, and I hate
that they don't do that especially, And this is just
a theory that I've been talking about for a minute,
is like in low income neighborhoods, they especially don't teach
you a lot of things like how to invest your money,
Like what the fuck is investing? Like, well, I'm trying

(15:25):
to learn how to do that now at twenty seven.
I agree with you, and I'm sure there are a
lot of teachers who listen to our podcast because listen
to our show, and the thing that sucks is you're
probably listening going I agree, but quit pile into all
of this responsibility on teachers. And it's true a lot
of this responsibility falls on parents. Parents are teachers are
not parents. However, I guess I would say to educators
or to you know, administrators, how do you how can

(15:47):
you incorporate some of these lessons into what you're already
required to teach such that you're because I realize that
you have to teach to in a lot of ways
you're teaching to what the standard is is being set
by the school district that that determine your efficacy as
a teacher, right because they take these tests from what
I understand these and then they you know, schools are
evaluated and teachers are evaluated based on how well the

(16:08):
students do on the curriculum that they set out. So
I get that that's the challenge, but like, at some
point somebody at a higher level needs to say, yeah,
that you have to learn how to do math, but
maybe we can teach math in a way, uh, you know,
more more universally and incorporates taxes or investment or saving
or budgeting or and maybe it's happening, but I or
at least have it like an elective type class. Once

(16:29):
the kids are you know, junior seniors about to you know,
be adults, it would be nice to send them off
with that knowledge, like adulting class, adulting one. Like, here's
here's some basic tips on that fucking your financial future.
Here's some basic tips on eating when you're don't have
any money. Here's here's how to wash your clothes properly.
And you know, here's how I don't know, find an apartment,

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and I don't I mean, I don't know. I just
and maybe some of the stuff you figure out and
that's what makes you know as character. But look at
this stuff. People think you can just go belly button.
You can google, google everything, you know what. It explains
a lot, though, because I've been I've been tackling that
belly button now for some time and it's just not
works out fine for me. I just don't think stay there. Yeah,

(17:15):
I would explain a lot of things. Maybe I'll try
the other thing. All right, um, what if it's an Audie,
Well it's any one. I'm sorry, floor man, Okay, get

(17:41):
that belly button about to give you an idiot. I
have a nice day, everyone,