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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're into the tangent and our lesbian tangent without the lesbian. So, okay,
I know the one the one guy here who might
know some stuff. Well, I know you know some stuff.
But the actual gay person on the show has to
go work do someone else's job, per usual. So here
hit the intro. It's the tangent giving you all this
shit we couldn't talk about on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Okay, yeah, that sums it.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Jason has to go do someone else's job, which is
the story of Jason's life. Jason does everything here.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes, yes, for our intern who's on vacation.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Oh love that. Okay, yeah, I mean, I mean that's nice.
That's not everybody gets a vacation everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So I saw a TikTok video and it was a
lesbian couple and they were asking their dad if he
knew certain lesbian terms, and it I come to find out.
I feel like I have a pretty good pop culture lexicon.
Even if I don't use the terms, I feel like
I know what they are more than the average forty
year old would, right right, you guys, keep me cool.
(01:04):
I wind up watching content and doing things I wouldn't
probably do if I were like a you know, a
finance bro.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Actually I might if I were a finance bro. But
you know what I mean. But there's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This stuff I didn't know, and so would you like
to hear This is from queer sapphic Queer s A
p p h I C sapic. I don't know anyway,
it's a website and this is the twenty twenty five
lesbian slang terms to update your vocam. Okay, okay, now
the one that I didn't know what was it? Uh,
(01:38):
maybe we'll get to it. There was one I really
didn't oh, Jason's walking back in from doing someone else's job.
There was one I didn't know, a pillow princess, which
is basically just someone who takes and doesn't give, yeah,
which I've I've dated her, right it doesn't know. There
are straight women too, where it's just like, yeah, you could,
you can do me all day and I don't really
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and then I'll just lay there when it's yeah, fuck off. Yeah,
you know, I hope this isn't inappropriate. I guarantee I've
known you for almost a decade. We realized this morning.
I guarantee you are no pillow princess, thank you because well,
for a couple of reasons. One you're a generous person,
but two you really I think are sensitive to feedback
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from other people. I think you and I have that
in common where I would like to tell you that
I am a generous lover because I care about the
person i'm with, and that's probably true, But I've been
very generous to people I don't care about because I
need the feedback from them. I need you to come
because it makes me feel good. And don't tell me
that I'm a dick for that because you just came,
(02:40):
So what for the fuck do you care?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You know what I'm saying, Kiki does that is? That
is it's the right kind of selfish. If I need
you to get off for me to feel good.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Everybody wins, That's what I'm sure. It's the right kind
of selfish.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I want to be like I did that, you know?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah? Okay, So lets see how many of these you know?
One hundred footer? Do you know what a one hundred
footer is? I do not someone who is so stereotypically
gay by their appearance or mannerisms that you can tell
their sexuality from one hundred feet away. Okay, all right,
and there are you know, there are some of those,
for sure. I've worked for the opposite. I had a
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boss who is like the opposite. He this guy. I
didn't know he was gay for a while, like for
quite a while. Yeah, because he just did not give
gay at all at all. Like Jason's partner. If I
didn't know, I might not know Mike the mechanic, I
might not if I didn't know the context, I might
not know.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
He's straight presenting. All I got to do is see
the nails, and I can tell you. Okay, you know
that's a thing. No, yeah, Usually shorter nails are oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Like manicured or like, well, no, not necessarily, but it's
you can't really have long nails and do some of
the things that we need to be doing for women.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You mean yes, Oh, I was like I was thinking
for men, I'm.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Like, no, lesbians typically have shorty I wish I can
see this.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
No nails, Yeah, no, not for men.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
For women usually that's part of the science.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Okay, So back to this list. Lesbian bed death the
phrases used to describe the declining sexual experience in committed
long term lesbian relationships. It claims that the longer the
relationship lasts, the less sex lesbian couples have. I don't
know if that's necessarily true from only for only lesbians.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But oftentimes, I mean, this is not everyone. Please don't
come for me. But oftentimes men are a little bit
more sexual than women are, especially in like long term relationships.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
You know, every there's you know, everybody's different.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
But so when there's two women, sometimes it's like, do
we really need to do it?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Ace is slang for a sex okay, black cat lesbian.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Oh, I don't know her.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Think catwoman's strong, dark femininity, sexy and a feminine top
trades are stereotypical of a black cat's fierce independence and
mysterious vibe.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
But they're feminine okay, yeah, got it, dark femininity.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
They often are smart, have some cuteness, aggression or protective,
hyper aware, and will pounce if necessary. Okay. The con
is sometimes they can be mean. I guess golden retriever lesbians,
you know what that is? What it refers to, I
don't know. These are some of the ones that came up.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Lesbian this refers to someone who has the personality and
tendencies associated with the dog breed. Warm, friendly, playful, easy going,
and affectionate.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
There's golden retriever boyfriends and husbands too.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, I like that. Sapphic if I'm saying it right. Sapphic,
which is queer seven the website, is the term used
to describe women who love and can also include non
binary people who are attracted to women. Okay, so that's
what that means.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
We know what.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Butch means mask MASc lesbian, an umbrella term for many
different types of lesbians, from butch to soft masked lesbians
who appear to behave in a more masculine way.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Can we read butcher?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Though?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I would like to hear what they're doing?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Sure, butch. And again this is from the website. I'm
just reading to you. What's here?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
This?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
This seems thoughtful, But I don't know. I don't want
to offend anybody. Give you this if I'm wrong about this. Whatever.
Butch lesbians often adopt a more masculine style with a
specific esthetic in terms of dress and appearance, preferring clothes
and hairstyles that might be considered traditionally masculine. Got it,
pillow princess, we did that, stone top or a stone butch.
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This refers to lesbians with a high, traditionally masculine presentation
who prefer to only give during intimacy. They don't receive
what So basically masked lesbians who do not want to
be penetrated and one will always be on top that
that's what.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
The term means, but they don't want to get off.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I guess not. That's a sad Yeah, I don't know.
Lipstick lesbian.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I think we've probably heard that one before, like a
like a very femme looking a lesbian. Yeah, chapstick lesbian
or a fotch fall somewhere between the opposite ends of
fem and butch, so you can expect a mix of
masculine and feminine styles or neither. That's a confusing one.
Dom sub we know that. Do you listen to Girl
(07:33):
in Red?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, that's yeah, Okay, it's an artist.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
It's a lesbian question in a gen z lesbian slang
used to subtly ask a woman about their sexual orientation
or interest in women, basically another way of asking are
you a lesbian? It originates from the song Girls by
the artist Girl in red who's popular for her bold
and unabashedly wl W tracks.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I skip over that one because I thought everyone knew
what that man. GoldStar lesbian think of. Gold Star stickers
teachers get for excellence in kindergarten, and lesbians slang at
GoldStar lesbian is someone who has never done the d
with a man. Hey Mama's, popularized by lesbian TikTok hey
mama's mask leaning lesbians who tend to give fuck boy vibe.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
A stud refers to a black lesbian who presents themselves
in hyper masculine ways. Oh, I didn't know that STEM
is a combination of fem and stud. Now these combinations
are confusing because as a lay person with the lesbians,
I don't I don't know that I should be these
these gray areas I need, I need black or white
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for me. Tripping or scissoring refers to a sexual positions
by which two lesbians rub their genitals against each other,
and then it names the volvas and clyptorius. Thank you
for thank you? Thank you for which one? Not the
bottoms of your feet?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Scizzoring?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Now it's tripping, yeah, yeah, you haul or you hauling?
Jason is this coming from the term you haul the
truck that people rent from moving the lesbian slang from
moving in together earlier in the relationship or very early
in the relationship. Baby gay or baby dyke refers to
a lesbian who has recently realized her sexual orientation or
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is new at embracing it.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Urge to merge.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Finally, in lesbian slang, the urge to merge refers to
the tendency of some lesbian relationships quickly developing intensely, often
leading to partner spending a lot of time together early
on and becoming very close emotionally. Urge to merge, so
it's like a clinger, kind of like a stage five clinger.
But maybe you both wanted to do it as opposed
to one.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
What would you be? The fuck boy lesbian?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I retired? I was totally a fuck boy.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, yeah, you have retired.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
What would I be? Maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think it would be the black cat.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I think what was what was that one? Again?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
The feminine one with the dark hair?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Oh, I don't know. What would what would you be?
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (10:13):
I'd probably be what they call.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Little energy, just stim energy.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
You and I both have some masculine tendencies.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That is so true.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
We have to put on dick away, is what we
tell each other.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
What would you be?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I think the little black cat who like can pound
sometimes and is fiercely protective sometimes can be a little sassy,
But I would I would be feminine, feminine still, I believe.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But yeah, I think you both would be lipstick lesbians.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Okay, what is that?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That one is femin lesbian's high feminine, hyper feminine, fully
embracing a traditionally feminine gender expression, makeup, skin care, glam.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
But right.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Me, oh you haul, I'm next to Jason. I'm not
like I'm moving in at this point. I want to
be taking care of for rest of my life. That's
where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
How fast were you basically? Like, were you and Hobvey
living together?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (11:11):
He so we joke, but it's real. Like when we
met with COVID, so we didn't go out much. He
would come into my mom's basement every night. We would
hang out like that man practically moved in, so he
might be the lesbian here.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
I don't know, right he moved in, and then.
Speaker 9 (11:23):
When I got the townhouse, I was like, you're moving
in or what like right, like I.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
Just almost like you all.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Then I guess he might be.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
But now he bought our house, So now i'm the call.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I guess we're all you haul, but you're married.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Your ship goes down the U haul when you're married.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I mean that's what I'm told.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Which, yeah, they say, remember Fred, you thought they were
moving too fast.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
We were worried about it.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Oh yeah, Fred didn't like that very much.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well, because didn't like it. He was concerned.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
In my experience, those sorts of things they collapse, and
I'm glad that yours didn't. But I would say eighty
percent of the time people who go zero to four hundred,
there tends to be like a wake up period that
some people can't survive because you once like the excitement
and the intimacy wears off, you know, like like fucking
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all the time and you can't get it out of me,
and then you realize like I don't maybe I don't
like talking to this person actually or actually I don't
think this is a very good bad anyway, And it
turned down in your case, Hobby is a good guy.
But but you know, we all know the people who
are it's it's like boom boom boom boom boom, and
then and then it falls apart and they're like, I
can't believe it. I'm like, well I can, because you
don't even know the person's last name.
Speaker 9 (12:31):
You know, what's crazy is that I'm more afraid to
move in with a friend like friends than I would
be with a man or like hobby. Right, Like, I've
lived with friends. Jonathan and I were still best friends.
Claudia and I were still best friends. I not trying
to my own horn. I think I'm a great roommate
first and foremost.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
I'm thoughtful. I do for others what I want done
for me, Like I'm a good roommate.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
But if today, if I wasn't not merry whatever, and
I had to pick moving in with a guy or friends,
I might pick the guy.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
It's scary because you don't want to lose the friendship,
and people are different when you live with them than
when you're just.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
I've heard so many stories.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
When I moved out to live at Claudio when I
was in my last year of college, my mom was like,
you guys are not even be friends no more. All
these things and a bitch I put everybody wrong. But
I was like so afraid.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
I'm like, I'm gonna lose my friend, Like I'm gonna
lose my best friend after this.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I thought about that too, Like one of my my
prob my closest friend is a pilot, and I've you know,
we've discussed if I ever didn't do this, I might
go work for him on his team that flies this
rich guy's airplane. But he's he's a very he's very
talented pilot. He's very gifted, and he's very serious about it.
And there's a different side to him than the than
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the one that I get as his buddy, And I
feel like I would be a little bit afraid not
to meet his standard, like to go work because now
we're not fucking around, Like this would be his reputation
in his career, and I would be working for him
the same way. It would be like if he decided
one day I want to be on the radio and
I just hire him and he sucks, you know, like
I'd have to be like fuck man, like, dude, you're
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not good, you know, like you're not you're not up
to par on This could cause a problem in the friendship.
So sometimes I wonder would I be better off, even
if it were the best opportunity, not working with him
and working with someone who's I didn't care about as
much because I would hate for it to damage the friendship.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
I agree with that one hundred percent. My brother and
his wife started their own company, and Big Tim it
was like maybe I should work with I was like, oh,
absolutely no, absolutely not, because it's just it gets weird,
it gets sticky, there's money evolved, there's you know, hr
things evolved.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No well, and I've also found that it can be
tough to be friends. This is a totally different topic,
but it can be tough to be friends with people
in your same industry because you know, over the years,
I've had friendships come and go and then come again
because maybe I you know, maybe they at times were
doing better than I was, and I was I loved
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them as people, but I was resentful. And then I've
done better than some of my mentors, and I think
they've become resentful. And then sometimes those friendships come back
and sometimes they don't. But you know, it can be
tough because you want your friends to succeed if you're
really their friend, unless you're a shithead. But it can
be difficult to watch somebody else achieve the things that
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you're that you didn't, So you know, it's almost I mean,
it's like family, you know, like I want my sister
to crush it. But if she were like a gazillionaire,
you know, it might be hard. Like that you're living
this life that I would love to live and I
can't afford.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I didn't make it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I don't know, but you love that person at the core,
but maybe you become resentful, so that can be hard too.
It can be hard to even but but then again
on the floor, and it could be really hard to
date people in the same industry. I don't know if
you found this, yeah, but you know I've dated people
who I did it. One girl who was just way
more better, way more better at the time, at the time,
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she was way more successful than I was.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And this was years and years and years.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
This was this was before Chicago, and her thing was
just and my job kind of sucked and my boss
was a shithead, and and it was like, well, just quit,
just quit and move here and we'll figure it out.
Because she made a lot of money. It was on
a big show. What she didn't realize was I was
working to be and she was a co host and
she was great. She was very, very talented, went on
to host the show too. She's one of those people
that can do it all. But I had to do that,
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like I had to do the hard thing. I had
to make it through that because I wouldn't have gotten
here without that. I wanted my own show in a
big market. If I had just quit, then I might
have never achieved that. And then how do you prioritize
you know, like I don't know. If Shane gets a
job in New York, it pays a ton of money
and you're here, are you supposed to just give up
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your career to go be with him?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Like, no, you wouldn't. You can't know. Work's very hard
for this exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So that can be hard when you're in the same
industry and it's like, who are we prioritizing here? Yeah,
if we can't prioritize both, because it's almost it's almost
impossible for two people in media to thrive in the
same city at the same time.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And when when you brought up the sibling thing, that's
funny because I'm always telling my sister. You know, I
followed my dreams, which I don't know if that set me.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Up for the most luxurious life.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
And she's going into business and I'm always telling her,
just become a millionaire.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
And let me ride the ride with you. Please take
care of me. I raised you, you raise me.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
But at the same time, it's like.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I want better for her than I have.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
She too, But if it happened, I wonder how I'd feel.
Like my sister followed a path and she is excellent
at it, but it doesn't pay very well. And I
think sometimes she looks at me and it pays better
and says, well.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like she's doing far more important work than I am
for a lot less money. And I'm not going to
say their life is a struggle, but it's more difficult
than mine is. And I don't think she loves me
any less. But I would be lying if I think
sometimes she doesn't look at it and say, must be nice,
you know, must be nice to have had a passion
from the time that you were born, you know, and
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be obsessed with something and then make it work. Because
I don't think she knew it took her a minute
to kind of find her path, and then she found it.
It's just not a very high paying position, which is
crazy to me. I mean, she's a high school psychologist,
and it's just, yeah, she doesn't pay that great, but
she's making such a difference in these kids' lives. But
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it's kind of paycheck to paycheck, you know. And so
I think the love is not lost. But I would
be lying if I haven't felt at times this must.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Be nice attitude.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And I don't think she she wants me to succeed
and pay for her kids college cologist, but but you know, nonetheless,
I don't know, I think that would be honest if
she were to say, yeah, sometimes I kind of started
to see so I hear what you're saying, and I
want the same. I mean, if she won the lottery
and had a gazillion dollars, I'd be very happy for her.
But I might look and say, fuck, that's a great life,
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you know, And you know me too, you know, it's like,
I don't think that's I don't think that's I think
it would be inhuman for you not to think that
in the back of your mind. It would be inhuman
for you not to love somebody because they succeeded, but
it would be I think it would be very normal
for you to sit back and say.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Like, fuck, man, that's so honest to say that. I mean,
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
No, that's real. It's I mean, it's hard. It's easy
because I was like, I'm always telling people like you know, like, man,
you got to focus on your journey. We all we
all hear on a different assignment. So what's for me
is for me. What's for you, it's for you. But
it's easy to say that when you're when you're the
one succeeding, but the one who may not feel good
about where they are in life. I don't know how
to you know what I'm saying. It's hard to relate
to that. But I'm sure that has to suck. I'm
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sure you can feel a way. You can build resentment,
and you know, people are in secret competition and it's
like why we you know, everybody gonna thrive. But it's
like it's easy to say that when you're the one thriving.
But I mean, you gotta be honest, that's that's real,
what you were saying.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
They they went out Friday night. I was there Friday,
we dropped the supplies off in Dallas. They live in Dallas,
and we went to dinner and then I, you know,
we'd gotten up at whatever time for and so I
was done. They went to a concert and it was
supposed to be chill evening for them because they have
a five year old or four year old and a one
and a half year old, but they want up gett
a shit faced. So they picked me up Saturday morning.
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They're hungover as fuck and the girls are not. You know,
May the one and a half year old is knacked
it up. Polly was great, but like they're just being
kids and they don't give a shit, and it's almost
like they amp it up when you're hungover.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Driving at breakfast and we were talking about it and
I was like, you know, days like today must suck
for you guys, but just you know, and I wasn't
hung over.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I didn't drink, and it was like I was. My
sister's like, what are you gonna do today?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You're gonna fly home and go take a nap and
fucking order door dash and dick around. I'm like, that's life.
I go, that's exactly what I'm going to do. And
I say, but just remember, and they didn't get this,
but they were like, I'm like, remember that, if it's
not happening today, tomorrow, or in a month or a
year or five years, you're gonna be sitting there at
the play and you're gonna watch this little thing that
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you made do this awesome thing, and you're going to
have this feeling that I'll never experience. And then my
brother Wall looked at me and he was like, but
you'll be sitting right next to us, like you're gonna
feel You're gonna feel the same thing. And I was like,
but you're right, but it's not going to be quite
the same, like I and I think about that, right,
like you have this you guys have this marriage and
(21:16):
you found each other and you have these kids, and
that's wonderful. I get to go take a nap, But
there are things that you guys will accomplish and feel
that I won't, right, And it's just that's the trade off.
And I've accepted that. And they don't really see it
that way because they just see the upside.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
They're in it right now, that's why.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
But I think someday when the kid graduates, you know,
when they graduate college or get married or or you know,
are our great athletes or get an A in school
or get into a good college, there's going to be
a sense of pride that they can own the way
that I can't. And did I contribute, Sure, but it's
not mine and it wouldn't be mine to claim.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
It's so hard when everybody's looking from their own set
of glasses, right, you know, because at the end of
the day, they gave your mother grandchildren. Mm hmm, you can,
Like now I think about this with my family, Like
I can't go and win in Oscar I still have
not given Helena grandchildren. So like you know, at the
end of the day, bro, you won no matter what.
But I know it looks what I'm doing looks cool,
but you did something that cannot be replaced. So like
(22:11):
I hope that they can look at it from that angle,
Like you know, you create these little people and you
give us all joy in the family. You know, what
I do is fulfilling, its great, it's fun, but like
what you are doing is you're making life.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
That's that's like incredible. So you can do both those.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
It's hard, I mean I built a whole platform on it,
but you can literally do both. I did.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
Like, that's kind of what my fucking life mission is
right now is to be able to say and I
understand there's different families, dynamics, different parts, you know, Like
you said, you're in the thick of it. Kaileen mentioned
that earlier for your sister. I know that they got two. Okay,
that's a lot. I got one. But I always say, like,
you can still do the cool shit. I can still
do my radio, so I can still do, you know,
go to New York for a Netflix, you know, red
(22:48):
carpet thing like I did in January, and still have
my one year old at home, you know what I mean,
Like I want to show my t she can.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
And I'm not minimizing that, but but things they change.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
I can't get shit faced.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Like I still know I'm not even going in that direction.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
From their perspective of how they look at they don't
have a radio career, so they're just looking at what
you do is so cool versus what I get to.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Do, right and look, my my my journey is not
heroic by any means, but I've made sacrifices to sit
here that that and and the way my brain is wired,
and you know, things I've dealt with internally and the
way I look at relationships and my experience with I
guess I'm not I'm not minimizing what you were saying
(23:30):
because because in theory and in principle, you are right.
But it just isn't that simple. It's not as simple
as Fred. You could have it all. Well, I could all.
I could. You're right, I could have a wife and kids.
I could give my mother grandchildren. But but I don't it.
It just hasn't come together. And and for reasons that
(23:52):
I have control over and reasons that I don't. But
it's just you're right, you could have it all, but
everyone just seems it's things is so it's so easy
just to well, you know, you've establish yourself in your career,
so just go get married and have a kid. My
brain doesn't work that way. It never has. I have
issues with relationships, and I just it's just never quite
come together.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Well yeah, like that's terrible advice. Go find a wife
and have a kid.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Like But what I'm saying is you're absolutely right, you
can have it all. But but you were you were
blessed to find to be in the mindset and have
the attitude to know what you wanted and to make
the sacrifices and find the person. And again, is this
me saying I've never met a person worthy of being
my wife or having kids? Absolutely not. I totally have.
But I don't. I don't know that I would be
(24:33):
sitting here doing this as fucked up as I am.
I see, you know, utilizing that to my I don't know.
It's just it's just it's it's I don't.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
And again, we all have our own journeys. Yes, so
like you know, some people were created to be mothers,
others are just that's not a part of my story yet.
It is just not a part of my story at all.
But we all should feel fulfilled and what our assignment
is and what we are doing. And I think that's
what people should focus more on instead of comparing ourselves
to everybody else, because you're never going to be happy
if you are continuously comparing yourself to everyone.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, Comparison is the thief of joy and I really
believe that. And I talked to all the little young
radio people around here about this, and they're like, easy
for you to say, you know you have this or
you have that, and it's like, but you didn't get
to see what led to this or that. And I
know it's like a matter of perspective, but they don't.
They don't know what they don't know yet, they don't
have the perspective of the journey. So it's frustrating for
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us to be sitting here giving them advice when they
want maybe what we have, but they didn't get to
see all that we gave up, all that we had
to do.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
So it's a tough little conversation to have.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Well and calen different topic but entirely, but I really
wish that our industry, if we expect to grow, this
is present day in past tense. I guess I wish
there were opportunities for people to have worked elsewhere because
unfortunate and I don't this is not to any you
guys have all crushed it and you're all super talented,
(25:55):
but you never had to work in and I've never
had to work in shitty towns. I've had to work
in towns with a whole lot less than we have here,
and I've had to work for a lot of people,
good and bad, and I've had it took me fifth. Well, hell,
it took me twenty years just to get here to
do fifteen. And again that doesn't devalue your experience. But
(26:18):
it's easier to have perspective when I can look back
on what it took to get here versus this is
the only place I've ever worked, because it's like, yeah,
we've seen a lot, all of us in almost a
decade together, and then fifteen years here, we've seen a lot,
but it's hard. You can't compare it until you either
go somewhere else, which is almost impossible to Like Bella,
for example, she's never worked anywhere else. She doesn't know
(26:41):
what to compare this to correct, right, and so she's
not saying any of this to me. But it's like,
but what about this? And what about this? And what
about this? And it's like no, no, no, you have the
only job of your kind in the top ten markets.
Like it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
You never can't.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Go to Tuscaloosa and do eighteen jobs anymore, come here
and go fuck, at least they only have to do one,
you know. It's just it's hard to know. And I
that's one thing I regret for all of you, is
I think you would be even further enriched if you
had had to go to Jacksonville and then you get
here and it's like, yeah, I still want this for myself,
(27:16):
but it's better than that, you know what I mean,
Like I have the perspective to know, wow, this is
this is a this is this is better than that,
but you don't know that because you didn't do it.
But then again, it's also hard to know because the
industry has changed so much.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah, I didn't have to move far, but obviously I
worked on one other morning show, so I'm at least
said that I have that perspective of how things are different.
Speaker 9 (27:35):
Yeah, I mean, I worked in Los Angeles, but I
kind of wish that I did go to a smaller
market because I feel like I'm very appreciative of everything
I have here and like where I'm mad but I
kind of sometimes wish like I would like to compare
it to like, oh shit, like at least I'm not
in those days anymore, or but.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You can't how much I learned.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I can't hold that against you, of course I wouldn't,
but you I mean, you know, I speak to kids
all the time every now and against someone email me
and say how do I again, how do I do it?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Or I'll go to a class at De Paul and
speak to whatever. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I do not know how to tell you to get
in the business, because unless you can get a job
in the top five markets, because they're the only ones
that even have jobs, then I don't know where to
tell you to go to cut your teeth.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Because if I didn't.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Have Austin and Charlotte and Dallas and Phoenix, then I
don't I'm not sitting here because I wouldn't have developed
any kind of game of my own. It's it's really
really hard. It's a bunch of different topics. But anyway,
that's it's called.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
The Lesbians to Journey life journeys.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Right right, well journeys. Here we are.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Shout out to the lesbians. I love you.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You know what? Yet back to that shout out to
the lesbians.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Sad about lesbians.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, holy you're welcome because of all the people in
the room to be educating people on lesbians, I'm the
guy guy.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah. Well, thanks to the website. It's the Tangent
We're into the tangent and our lesbian tangent without the lesbian. So, okay,
I know the one the one guy here who might
know some stuff. Well, I know you know some stuff.
But the actual gay person on the show has to
go work do someone else's job, per usual. So here
hit the intro. It's the tangent giving you all this
shit we couldn't talk about on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Okay, yeah, that sums it.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Jason has to go do someone else's job, which is
the story of Jason's life. Jason does everything here.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes, yes, for our intern who's on vacation.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Oh love that. Okay, yeah, I mean, I mean that's nice.
That's not everybody gets a vacation everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So I saw a TikTok video and it was a
lesbian couple and they were asking their dad if he
knew certain lesbian terms, and it I come to find out.
I feel like I have a pretty good pop culture lexicon.
Even if I don't use the terms, I feel like
I know what they are more than the average forty
year old would, right right, you guys, keep me cool.
(01:04):
I wind up watching content and doing things I wouldn't
probably do if I were like a you know, a
finance bro.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Actually I might if I were a finance bro. But
you know what I mean. But there's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This stuff I didn't know, and so would you like
to hear This is from queer sapphic Queer s A
p p h I C sapic. I don't know anyway,
it's a website and this is the twenty twenty five
lesbian slang terms to update your vocam. Okay, okay, now
the one that I didn't know what was it? Uh,
(01:38):
maybe we'll get to it. There was one I really
didn't oh, Jason's walking back in from doing someone else's job.
There was one I didn't know, a pillow princess, which
is basically just someone who takes and doesn't give, yeah,
which I've I've dated her, right it doesn't know. There
are straight women too, where it's just like, yeah, you could,
you can do me all day and I don't really
(01:58):
and then I'll just lay there when it's yeah, fuck off. Yeah,
you know, I hope this isn't inappropriate. I guarantee I've
known you for almost a decade. We realized this morning.
I guarantee you are no pillow princess, thank you because well,
for a couple of reasons. One you're a generous person,
but two you really I think are sensitive to feedback
(02:19):
from other people. I think you and I have that
in common where I would like to tell you that
I am a generous lover because I care about the
person i'm with, and that's probably true, But I've been
very generous to people I don't care about because I
need the feedback from them. I need you to come
because it makes me feel good. And don't tell me
that I'm a dick for that because you just came,
(02:40):
So what for the fuck do you care?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You know what I'm saying, Kiki does that is? That
is it's the right kind of selfish. If I need
you to get off for me to feel good.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Everybody wins, That's what I'm sure. It's the right kind
of selfish.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I want to be like I did that, you know?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah? Okay, So lets see how many of these you know?
One hundred footer? Do you know what a one hundred
footer is? I do not someone who is so stereotypically
gay by their appearance or mannerisms that you can tell
their sexuality from one hundred feet away. Okay, all right,
and there are you know, there are some of those,
for sure. I've worked for the opposite. I had a
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boss who is like the opposite. He this guy. I
didn't know he was gay for a while, like for
quite a while. Yeah, because he just did not give
gay at all at all. Like Jason's partner. If I
didn't know, I might not know Mike the mechanic, I
might not if I didn't know the context, I might
not know.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
He's straight presenting. All I got to do is see
the nails, and I can tell you. Okay, you know
that's a thing. No, yeah, Usually shorter nails are oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Like manicured or like, well, no, not necessarily, but it's
you can't really have long nails and do some of
the things that we need to be doing for women.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You mean yes, Oh, I was like I was thinking
for men, I'm.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Like, no, lesbians typically have shorty I wish I can
see this.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
No nails, Yeah, no, not for men.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
For women usually that's part of the science.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Okay, So back to this list. Lesbian bed death the
phrases used to describe the declining sexual experience in committed
long term lesbian relationships. It claims that the longer the
relationship lasts, the less sex lesbian couples have. I don't
know if that's necessarily true from only for only lesbians.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But oftentimes, I mean, this is not everyone. Please don't
come for me. But oftentimes men are a little bit
more sexual than women are, especially in like long term relationships.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
You know, every there's you know, everybody's different.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
But so when there's two women, sometimes it's like, do
we really need to do it?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Ace is slang for a sex okay, black cat lesbian.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Oh, I don't know her.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Think catwoman's strong, dark femininity, sexy and a feminine top
trades are stereotypical of a black cat's fierce independence and
mysterious vibe.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
But they're feminine okay, yeah, got it, dark femininity.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
They often are smart, have some cuteness, aggression or protective,
hyper aware, and will pounce if necessary. Okay. The con
is sometimes they can be mean. I guess golden retriever lesbians,
you know what that is? What it refers to, I
don't know. These are some of the ones that came up.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Lesbian this refers to someone who has the personality and
tendencies associated with the dog breed. Warm, friendly, playful, easy going,
and affectionate.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
There's golden retriever boyfriends and husbands too.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, I like that. Sapphic if I'm saying it right. Sapphic,
which is queer seven the website, is the term used
to describe women who love and can also include non
binary people who are attracted to women. Okay, so that's
what that means.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
We know what.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Butch means mask MASc lesbian, an umbrella term for many
different types of lesbians, from butch to soft masked lesbians
who appear to behave in a more masculine way.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Can we read butcher?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Though?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I would like to hear what they're doing?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Sure, butch. And again this is from the website. I'm
just reading to you. What's here?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
This?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
This seems thoughtful, But I don't know. I don't want
to offend anybody. Give you this if I'm wrong about this. Whatever.
Butch lesbians often adopt a more masculine style with a
specific esthetic in terms of dress and appearance, preferring clothes
and hairstyles that might be considered traditionally masculine. Got it,
pillow princess, we did that, stone top or a stone butch.
(06:47):
This refers to lesbians with a high, traditionally masculine presentation
who prefer to only give during intimacy. They don't receive
what So basically masked lesbians who do not want to
be penetrated and one will always be on top that
that's what.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
The term means, but they don't want to get off.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I guess not. That's a sad Yeah, I don't know.
Lipstick lesbian.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I think we've probably heard that one before, like a
like a very femme looking a lesbian. Yeah, chapstick lesbian
or a fotch fall somewhere between the opposite ends of
fem and butch, so you can expect a mix of
masculine and feminine styles or neither. That's a confusing one.
Dom sub we know that. Do you listen to Girl
(07:33):
in Red?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, that's yeah, Okay, it's an artist.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
It's a lesbian question in a gen z lesbian slang
used to subtly ask a woman about their sexual orientation
or interest in women, basically another way of asking are
you a lesbian? It originates from the song Girls by
the artist Girl in red who's popular for her bold
and unabashedly wl W tracks.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I skip over that one because I thought everyone knew
what that man. GoldStar lesbian think of. Gold Star stickers
teachers get for excellence in kindergarten, and lesbians slang at
GoldStar lesbian is someone who has never done the d
with a man. Hey Mama's, popularized by lesbian TikTok hey
mama's mask leaning lesbians who tend to give fuck boy vibe.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
A stud refers to a black lesbian who presents themselves
in hyper masculine ways. Oh, I didn't know that STEM
is a combination of fem and stud. Now these combinations
are confusing because as a lay person with the lesbians,
I don't I don't know that I should be these
these gray areas I need, I need black or white
(08:44):
for me. Tripping or scissoring refers to a sexual positions
by which two lesbians rub their genitals against each other,
and then it names the volvas and clyptorius. Thank you
for thank you? Thank you for which one? Not the
bottoms of your feet?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Scizzoring?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Now it's tripping, yeah, yeah, you haul or you hauling?
Jason is this coming from the term you haul the
truck that people rent from moving the lesbian slang from
moving in together earlier in the relationship or very early
in the relationship. Baby gay or baby dyke refers to
a lesbian who has recently realized her sexual orientation or
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is new at embracing it.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Urge to merge.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Finally, in lesbian slang, the urge to merge refers to
the tendency of some lesbian relationships quickly developing intensely, often
leading to partner spending a lot of time together early
on and becoming very close emotionally. Urge to merge, so
it's like a clinger, kind of like a stage five clinger.
But maybe you both wanted to do it as opposed
to one.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
What would you be? The fuck boy lesbian?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I retired? I was totally a fuck boy.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, yeah, you have retired.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
What would I be? Maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think it would be the black cat.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I think what was what was that one? Again?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
The feminine one with the dark hair?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Oh, I don't know. What would what would you be?
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (10:13):
I'd probably be what they call.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Little energy, just stim energy.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
You and I both have some masculine tendencies.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That is so true.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
We have to put on dick away, is what we
tell each other.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
What would you be?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I think the little black cat who like can pound
sometimes and is fiercely protective sometimes can be a little sassy,
But I would I would be feminine, feminine still, I believe.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But yeah, I think you both would be lipstick lesbians.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Okay, what is that?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That one is femin lesbian's high feminine, hyper feminine, fully
embracing a traditionally feminine gender expression, makeup, skin care, glam.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
But right.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Me, oh you haul, I'm next to Jason. I'm not
like I'm moving in at this point. I want to
be taking care of for rest of my life. That's
where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
How fast were you basically? Like, were you and Hobvey
living together?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (11:11):
He so we joke, but it's real. Like when we
met with COVID, so we didn't go out much. He
would come into my mom's basement every night. We would
hang out like that man practically moved in, so he
might be the lesbian here.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
I don't know, right he moved in, and then.
Speaker 9 (11:23):
When I got the townhouse, I was like, you're moving
in or what like right, like I.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
Just almost like you all.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Then I guess he might be.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
But now he bought our house, So now i'm the call.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I guess we're all you haul, but you're married.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Your ship goes down the U haul when you're married.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I mean that's what I'm told.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Which, yeah, they say, remember Fred, you thought they were
moving too fast.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
We were worried about it.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Oh yeah, Fred didn't like that very much.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well, because didn't like it. He was concerned.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
In my experience, those sorts of things they collapse, and
I'm glad that yours didn't. But I would say eighty
percent of the time people who go zero to four hundred,
there tends to be like a wake up period that
some people can't survive because you once like the excitement
and the intimacy wears off, you know, like like fucking
(12:10):
all the time and you can't get it out of me,
and then you realize like I don't maybe I don't
like talking to this person actually or actually I don't
think this is a very good bad anyway, And it
turned down in your case, Hobby is a good guy.
But but you know, we all know the people who
are it's it's like boom boom boom boom boom, and
then and then it falls apart and they're like, I
can't believe it. I'm like, well I can, because you
don't even know the person's last name.
Speaker 9 (12:31):
You know, what's crazy is that I'm more afraid to
move in with a friend like friends than I would
be with a man or like hobby. Right, Like, I've
lived with friends. Jonathan and I were still best friends.
Claudia and I were still best friends. I not trying
to my own horn. I think I'm a great roommate
first and foremost.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
I'm thoughtful. I do for others what I want done
for me, Like I'm a good roommate.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
But if today, if I wasn't not merry whatever, and
I had to pick moving in with a guy or friends,
I might pick the guy.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
It's scary because you don't want to lose the friendship,
and people are different when you live with them than
when you're just.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
I've heard so many stories.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
When I moved out to live at Claudio when I
was in my last year of college, my mom was like,
you guys are not even be friends no more. All
these things and a bitch I put everybody wrong. But
I was like so afraid.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
I'm like, I'm gonna lose my friend, Like I'm gonna
lose my best friend after this.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I thought about that too, Like one of my my
prob my closest friend is a pilot, and I've you know,
we've discussed if I ever didn't do this, I might
go work for him on his team that flies this
rich guy's airplane. But he's he's a very he's very
talented pilot. He's very gifted, and he's very serious about it.
And there's a different side to him than the than
(13:34):
the one that I get as his buddy, And I
feel like I would be a little bit afraid not
to meet his standard, like to go work because now
we're not fucking around, Like this would be his reputation
in his career, and I would be working for him
the same way. It would be like if he decided
one day I want to be on the radio and
I just hire him and he sucks, you know, like
I'd have to be like fuck man, like, dude, you're
(13:56):
not good, you know, like you're not you're not up
to par on This could cause a problem in the friendship.
So sometimes I wonder would I be better off, even
if it were the best opportunity, not working with him
and working with someone who's I didn't care about as
much because I would hate for it to damage the friendship.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
I agree with that one hundred percent. My brother and
his wife started their own company, and Big Tim it
was like maybe I should work with I was like, oh,
absolutely no, absolutely not, because it's just it gets weird,
it gets sticky, there's money evolved, there's you know, hr
things evolved.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No well, and I've also found that it can be
tough to be friends. This is a totally different topic,
but it can be tough to be friends with people
in your same industry because you know, over the years,
I've had friendships come and go and then come again
because maybe I you know, maybe they at times were
doing better than I was, and I was I loved
(14:49):
them as people, but I was resentful. And then I've
done better than some of my mentors, and I think
they've become resentful. And then sometimes those friendships come back
and sometimes they don't. But you know, it can be
tough because you want your friends to succeed if you're
really their friend, unless you're a shithead. But it can
be difficult to watch somebody else achieve the things that
(15:11):
you're that you didn't, So you know, it's almost I mean,
it's like family, you know, like I want my sister
to crush it. But if she were like a gazillionaire,
you know, it might be hard. Like that you're living
this life that I would love to live and I
can't afford.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I didn't make it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I don't know, but you love that person at the core,
but maybe you become resentful, so that can be hard too.
It can be hard to even but but then again
on the floor, and it could be really hard to
date people in the same industry. I don't know if
you found this, yeah, but you know I've dated people
who I did it. One girl who was just way
more better, way more better at the time, at the time,
(15:48):
she was way more successful than I was.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And this was years and years and years.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
This was this was before Chicago, and her thing was
just and my job kind of sucked and my boss
was a shithead, and and it was like, well, just quit,
just quit and move here and we'll figure it out.
Because she made a lot of money. It was on
a big show. What she didn't realize was I was
working to be and she was a co host and
she was great. She was very, very talented, went on
to host the show too. She's one of those people
that can do it all. But I had to do that,
(16:16):
like I had to do the hard thing. I had
to make it through that because I wouldn't have gotten
here without that. I wanted my own show in a
big market. If I had just quit, then I might
have never achieved that. And then how do you prioritize
you know, like I don't know. If Shane gets a
job in New York, it pays a ton of money
and you're here, are you supposed to just give up
(16:36):
your career to go be with him?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Like, no, you wouldn't. You can't know. Work's very hard
for this exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So that can be hard when you're in the same
industry and it's like, who are we prioritizing here? Yeah,
if we can't prioritize both, because it's almost it's almost
impossible for two people in media to thrive in the
same city at the same time.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And when when you brought up the sibling thing, that's
funny because I'm always telling my sister. You know, I
followed my dreams, which I don't know if that set me.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Up for the most luxurious life.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
And she's going into business and I'm always telling her,
just become a millionaire.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
And let me ride the ride with you. Please take
care of me. I raised you, you raise me.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
But at the same time, it's like.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I want better for her than I have.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
She too, But if it happened, I wonder how I'd feel.
Like my sister followed a path and she is excellent
at it, but it doesn't pay very well. And I
think sometimes she looks at me and it pays better
and says, well.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like she's doing far more important work than I am
for a lot less money. And I'm not going to
say their life is a struggle, but it's more difficult
than mine is. And I don't think she loves me
any less. But I would be lying if I think
sometimes she doesn't look at it and say, must be nice,
you know, must be nice to have had a passion
from the time that you were born, you know, and
(17:58):
be obsessed with something and then make it work. Because
I don't think she knew it took her a minute
to kind of find her path, and then she found it.
It's just not a very high paying position, which is
crazy to me. I mean, she's a high school psychologist,
and it's just, yeah, she doesn't pay that great, but
she's making such a difference in these kids' lives. But
(18:19):
it's kind of paycheck to paycheck, you know. And so
I think the love is not lost. But I would
be lying if I haven't felt at times this must.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Be nice attitude.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And I don't think she she wants me to succeed
and pay for her kids college cologist, but but you know, nonetheless,
I don't know, I think that would be honest if
she were to say, yeah, sometimes I kind of started
to see so I hear what you're saying, and I
want the same. I mean, if she won the lottery
and had a gazillion dollars, I'd be very happy for her.
But I might look and say, fuck, that's a great life,
(18:50):
you know, And you know me too, you know, it's like,
I don't think that's I don't think that's I think
it would be inhuman for you not to think that
in the back of your mind. It would be inhuman
for you not to love somebody because they succeeded, but
it would be I think it would be very normal
for you to sit back and say.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Like, fuck, man, that's so honest to say that. I mean,
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
No, that's real. It's I mean, it's hard. It's easy
because I was like, I'm always telling people like you know, like, man,
you got to focus on your journey. We all we
all hear on a different assignment. So what's for me
is for me. What's for you, it's for you. But
it's easy to say that when you're when you're the
one succeeding, but the one who may not feel good
about where they are in life. I don't know how
to you know what I'm saying. It's hard to relate
to that. But I'm sure that has to suck. I'm
(19:33):
sure you can feel a way. You can build resentment,
and you know, people are in secret competition and it's
like why we you know, everybody gonna thrive. But it's
like it's easy to say that when you're the one thriving.
But I mean, you gotta be honest, that's that's real,
what you were saying.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
They they went out Friday night. I was there Friday,
we dropped the supplies off in Dallas. They live in Dallas,
and we went to dinner and then I, you know,
we'd gotten up at whatever time for and so I
was done. They went to a concert and it was
supposed to be chill evening for them because they have
a five year old or four year old and a one
and a half year old, but they want up gett
a shit faced. So they picked me up Saturday morning.
(20:07):
They're hungover as fuck and the girls are not. You know,
May the one and a half year old is knacked
it up. Polly was great, but like they're just being
kids and they don't give a shit, and it's almost
like they amp it up when you're hungover.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Driving at breakfast and we were talking about it and
I was like, you know, days like today must suck
for you guys, but just you know, and I wasn't
hung over.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I didn't drink, and it was like I was. My
sister's like, what are you gonna do today?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You're gonna fly home and go take a nap and
fucking order door dash and dick around. I'm like, that's life.
I go, that's exactly what I'm going to do. And
I say, but just remember, and they didn't get this,
but they were like, I'm like, remember that, if it's
not happening today, tomorrow, or in a month or a
year or five years, you're gonna be sitting there at
the play and you're gonna watch this little thing that
(20:53):
you made do this awesome thing, and you're going to
have this feeling that I'll never experience. And then my
brother Wall looked at me and he was like, but
you'll be sitting right next to us, like you're gonna
feel You're gonna feel the same thing. And I was like,
but you're right, but it's not going to be quite
the same, like I and I think about that, right,
like you have this you guys have this marriage and
(21:16):
you found each other and you have these kids, and
that's wonderful. I get to go take a nap, But
there are things that you guys will accomplish and feel
that I won't, right, And it's just that's the trade off.
And I've accepted that. And they don't really see it
that way because they just see the upside.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
They're in it right now, that's why.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
But I think someday when the kid graduates, you know,
when they graduate college or get married or or you know,
are our great athletes or get an A in school
or get into a good college, there's going to be
a sense of pride that they can own the way
that I can't. And did I contribute, Sure, but it's
not mine and it wouldn't be mine to claim.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
It's so hard when everybody's looking from their own set
of glasses, right, you know, because at the end of
the day, they gave your mother grandchildren. Mm hmm, you can,
Like now I think about this with my family, Like
I can't go and win in Oscar I still have
not given Helena grandchildren. So like you know, at the
end of the day, bro, you won no matter what.
But I know it looks what I'm doing looks cool,
but you did something that cannot be replaced. So like
(22:11):
I hope that they can look at it from that angle,
Like you know, you create these little people and you
give us all joy in the family. You know, what
I do is fulfilling, its great, it's fun, but like
what you are doing is you're making life.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
That's that's like incredible. So you can do both those.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
It's hard, I mean I built a whole platform on it,
but you can literally do both. I did.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
Like, that's kind of what my fucking life mission is
right now is to be able to say and I
understand there's different families, dynamics, different parts, you know, Like
you said, you're in the thick of it. Kaileen mentioned
that earlier for your sister. I know that they got two. Okay,
that's a lot. I got one. But I always say, like,
you can still do the cool shit. I can still
do my radio, so I can still do, you know,
go to New York for a Netflix, you know, red
(22:48):
carpet thing like I did in January, and still have
my one year old at home, you know what I mean,
Like I want to show my t she can.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
And I'm not minimizing that, but but things they change.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
I can't get shit faced.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Like I still know I'm not even going in that direction.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
From their perspective of how they look at they don't
have a radio career, so they're just looking at what
you do is so cool versus what I get to.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Do, right and look, my my my journey is not
heroic by any means, but I've made sacrifices to sit
here that that and and the way my brain is wired,
and you know, things I've dealt with internally and the
way I look at relationships and my experience with I
guess I'm not I'm not minimizing what you were saying
(23:30):
because because in theory and in principle, you are right.
But it just isn't that simple. It's not as simple
as Fred. You could have it all. Well, I could all.
I could. You're right, I could have a wife and kids.
I could give my mother grandchildren. But but I don't it.
It just hasn't come together. And and for reasons that
(23:52):
I have control over and reasons that I don't. But
it's just you're right, you could have it all, but
everyone just seems it's things is so it's so easy
just to well, you know, you've establish yourself in your career,
so just go get married and have a kid. My
brain doesn't work that way. It never has. I have
issues with relationships, and I just it's just never quite
come together.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Well yeah, like that's terrible advice. Go find a wife
and have a kid.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Like But what I'm saying is you're absolutely right, you
can have it all. But but you were you were
blessed to find to be in the mindset and have
the attitude to know what you wanted and to make
the sacrifices and find the person. And again, is this
me saying I've never met a person worthy of being
my wife or having kids? Absolutely not. I totally have.
But I don't. I don't know that I would be
(24:33):
sitting here doing this as fucked up as I am.
I see, you know, utilizing that to my I don't know.
It's just it's just it's it's I don't.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
And again, we all have our own journeys. Yes, so
like you know, some people were created to be mothers,
others are just that's not a part of my story yet.
It is just not a part of my story at all.
But we all should feel fulfilled and what our assignment
is and what we are doing. And I think that's
what people should focus more on instead of comparing ourselves
to everybody else, because you're never going to be happy
if you are continuously comparing yourself to everyone.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, Comparison is the thief of joy and I really
believe that. And I talked to all the little young
radio people around here about this, and they're like, easy
for you to say, you know you have this or
you have that, and it's like, but you didn't get
to see what led to this or that. And I
know it's like a matter of perspective, but they don't.
They don't know what they don't know yet, they don't
have the perspective of the journey. So it's frustrating for
(25:25):
us to be sitting here giving them advice when they
want maybe what we have, but they didn't get to
see all that we gave up, all that we had
to do.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
So it's a tough little conversation to have.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Well and calen different topic but entirely, but I really
wish that our industry, if we expect to grow, this
is present day in past tense. I guess I wish
there were opportunities for people to have worked elsewhere because
unfortunate and I don't this is not to any you
guys have all crushed it and you're all super talented,
(25:55):
but you never had to work in and I've never
had to work in shitty towns. I've had to work
in towns with a whole lot less than we have here,
and I've had to work for a lot of people,
good and bad, and I've had it took me fifth. Well, hell,
it took me twenty years just to get here to
do fifteen. And again that doesn't devalue your experience. But
(26:18):
it's easier to have perspective when I can look back
on what it took to get here versus this is
the only place I've ever worked, because it's like, yeah,
we've seen a lot, all of us in almost a
decade together, and then fifteen years here, we've seen a lot,
but it's hard. You can't compare it until you either
go somewhere else, which is almost impossible to Like Bella,
for example, she's never worked anywhere else. She doesn't know
(26:41):
what to compare this to correct, right, and so she's
not saying any of this to me. But it's like,
but what about this? And what about this? And what
about this? And it's like no, no, no, you have the
only job of your kind in the top ten markets.
Like it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
You never can't.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Go to Tuscaloosa and do eighteen jobs anymore, come here
and go fuck, at least they only have to do one,
you know. It's just it's hard to know. And I
that's one thing I regret for all of you, is
I think you would be even further enriched if you
had had to go to Jacksonville and then you get
here and it's like, yeah, I still want this for myself,
(27:16):
but it's better than that, you know what I mean,
Like I have the perspective to know, wow, this is
this is a this is this is better than that,
but you don't know that because you didn't do it.
But then again, it's also hard to know because the
industry has changed so much.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah, I didn't have to move far, but obviously I
worked on one other morning show, so I'm at least
said that I have that perspective of how things are different.
Speaker 9 (27:35):
Yeah, I mean, I worked in Los Angeles, but I
kind of wish that I did go to a smaller
market because I feel like I'm very appreciative of everything
I have here and like where I'm mad but I
kind of sometimes wish like I would like to compare
it to like, oh shit, like at least I'm not
in those days anymore, or but.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You can't how much I learned.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I can't hold that against you, of course I wouldn't,
but you I mean, you know, I speak to kids
all the time every now and against someone email me
and say how do I again, how do I do it?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Or I'll go to a class at De Paul and
speak to whatever. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I do not know how to tell you to get
in the business, because unless you can get a job
in the top five markets, because they're the only ones
that even have jobs, then I don't know where to
tell you to go to cut your teeth.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Because if I didn't.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Have Austin and Charlotte and Dallas and Phoenix, then I
don't I'm not sitting here because I wouldn't have developed
any kind of game of my own. It's it's really
really hard. It's a bunch of different topics. But anyway,
that's it's called.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
The Lesbians to Journey life journeys.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Right right, well journeys. Here we are.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Shout out to the lesbians. I love you.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You know what? Yet back to that shout out to
the lesbians.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Sad about lesbians.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, holy you're welcome because of all the people in
the room to be educating people on lesbians, I'm the
guy guy.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah. Well, thanks to the website. It's the Tangent
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