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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Great, Caitlin, you're singing Alex Warren. We're gonna get flagged
for copyrriding and no one's gonna hear the podcast? Now,
is it Alex Warren?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Just walking you guys?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
No one told me Alex Warren was coming today. It's
this is crazy, unbelievable. All right, let's do the tangent.
It's the tangent giving you all this ship we couldn't
talk about on the air. Okay, exciting sounds like you
think so well, that's what I feel about today. It's
just it's a Monday. It's you know what me too exciting.

(00:30):
You went to a CIA wedding. You tried to take
your baby to a casino, Paulina.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I asked like three people and they were all like,
butch A serious.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Well, I guess I didn't realize you can't take a
baby to a casino. I guess I didn't know that.
I mean, I don't know why you would, but I
didn't realize you couldn't.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I didn't get a or, I couldn't get a babysitter.
And I almost didn't go, but I wanted to go
to see the singing competition to see who wins one
hundred K, like I was invested in this.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
So I was like hooka babies and I asked like five people.
I'm like, who wants a babysit? And I was like
my mom my in law like stuff like that, and
asked like Joe down.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
The street, Joe down the street is not it's not
qualified to babies my baby.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
So I ended up my mother in law ended up
taking her because she was going to a cookout. But
then they went to dinner instead, so it worked out.
They're like, oh, we'll take gg to dinner, and I said,
and I'll go to the casino.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
This is like when my friend Tatiana and I found
out that you can't take a baby into some bars
like crazy, you guys. The baby is not going to
try to drink. You would know because it's a baby.
So the baby's not going to try to gamble.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
No, No, she won't be up walking. Well she might
walk up to the slot machine, but she won't be
able to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Let the babies in.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yes, Why do you think Maris is calling me? You
think he means to me? I don't know. Answer, Well,
I'm more on the air. I don't know you want
me to go see not really, it's just like why,
I mean, you know what I'm doing, but don't speak.
Come on man.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, he's also on the air.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Do you want to play? He didn't mean to.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Do you want fantasy football?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
He's telling you about fantasy That would be funny.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Do you want to join our em No? I don't
know when did it disappear? Hon he's it voicemail?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Let me Oh my.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Gosh, Oh well that's interesting. It's not it wasn't it
said Matthew Harris, And I guess the Harris as went
threw me off. But it's someone else. It's the dermatologist
stalking me. Oh, I'm getting I have to tell you,
I'm getting really annoyed with the aggressiveness of medical professionals.

(02:30):
Like it's it's like they've texted me five or six
times and emailed me that I haven't been in in
a while, and it's like and now they're calling. I
guess I don't know if their business is shitty or what,
but like, yeah, guys, like it's kind of like I
got it, Like I got it. I I am aware
that you would like me to come in. I'm clear

(02:51):
on that you like we can stop. I got it
the first five times. If I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Confirm my appointment my Dennis office, will damn near show
up at my appartment, gone to my head confirm It's
like I have it in my calendar.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I already texted me. I don't need to I'll be
there now. I guess that part I kind of understand,
like a little bit maybe, Like if I have an appointment,
then that represents if you're a very busy practice, you know,
that represents revenue, right like money in the chair, So
if you don't show up, they lose money. But I
don't have an appointment with this place, Like what if?
What if I? What if I don't want to go back? Right? Like, guys,

(03:25):
get the hint, get a hand, like my rights right Like,
I'm not embellishing that. That is probably the tenth points
of contact that they've tried to make with me. Our
records indicate that I don't give a fuck what your
records say, Like maybe I don't want to go okay, period,
Now I don't know. Is it a sign I need
to go to the dermatologists? Like is this is it?
Ten times? Because I need to go make sure don't

(03:46):
have melanoma some I have. Maybe you need to go
every year, I know, but like I'll get to it.
I don't know. I'm just what if I changed doctors.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
You didn't you need to go.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I'm on their side.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Now. There's been some questions about this little TV project
that I engaged in, people trying to figure out what
the fuck I'm doing and how are you moving?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Where are you going?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Oh no, I think that's valid that there's questions. Yeah. No.
That was the thing that Kiki ran on the sheet
this morning was hold on, I'm going to read this
Steve verbatim because apparently she's jealous. It says, Fred, who
are these women? I knew you were going back to TV,
but I didn't know they were women involved.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, I did not know.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, so many years ago. I mean we're talking like fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen years ago. I lived in Charlotte before I came
to Chicago, and I did a morning radio show and
I did a TV show at night at ten thirty five.
Every night was live, which was a crazy world to
be doing when you're twenty six years old. It's a
live TV show that's so late. So yeah, so I

(04:45):
would sleep all day. I'd go in at nine o'clock,
I would do a TV show. At eleven o'clock, I'd
go home, and then i'd go to bed from like
twelve thirty to four and then get up due to
morning radio show. And I did that five days a week.
And sometimes I would do like a bar gig after
the show. So I just I'd go, I just drive
the station to sleep on a couch at the radio station,
and then do the morning show. Wow, I can't do

(05:05):
that shit anymore. There's no way. There's not every night. No.
I mean I was twenty seven years old. Twenty eight
years old, like, I don't whatever. So then I moved
and my TV co host at the time, she still
works at this TV station, and they tried a lot
of different She's laughed and come back. I mean, she's
super talented. She could be a lot of places, but
chose to stay. But they've tried a lot of different

(05:28):
versions of the show. And I'm not saying that they
had to have me, but they had heavy No. I
think that she and I had great chemistry and the
show was good, and they've tried different iterations of it,
and I think some of them have worked, but they
got rid of it and now they're relaunching the TV station,
they're rebranding it, and so they were like, hey, will
you help us relaunch the show for nostalgia, you know,
because I think people would be into it if if

(05:49):
the two of you got back together again and did
the thing. So I'm doing it most of it from Chicago,
but I will go there sometimes and do it from there.
And again, does it make any professional sense? No, it
really is. How does that make sense because it's it's not.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
You're not like joining the circus, like you're doing something in.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Your industry circus. No, But I just mean, like for
the people going, are you gonna move? Or why why
Charlotte or well, it's because there was a former tie
there and I liked that place a lot and that
was a fun time and it's very rare in life.
I think that you get to revisit something. Because when
I was doing it, I wasn't I was having fun,
but I it was it was a means to an end.
Everything I was doing at the time was to get

(06:28):
to Chicago everything, and so I would I wouldn't say
I was not enjoying it, but I was not necessarily
present for most of the come up because I was
just the whole time, I was just ten steps ahead
of a fit about you know, when somebody goanna call
me from a real market and that I shouldn't say
that that is a real it's a very real market,
but I mean like LA, New York, Chicago, Dallas, Houston,

(06:50):
like where where's the San Francisco? Where's the call? And
it wasn't coming until I and then it finally came,
so whatever, So that's why I'm doing that. I'm not moving.
I'm not you know, I may get on a little airplane,
go do a little visit and then come back, which
seems to be This all seems to be mystifying to
people in the comments. It was like you're leaving or
you got fired or whatever. It's like no, And by

(07:11):
the way, a lot of TV shows that you watch,
those people are sitting in their living room and you
don't know it. No, So just know that, like there
are ways that we can do things where I don't
have to you know, pick up and leave to do them.
But I'm actually very grateful that they asked me to
do it, and I'm you know, getting to reconnect with
some people I used to work with who I have
a lot of respect for. So that is why nice?

Speaker 4 (07:33):
What kind of like what kind of show?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, what are you all doing?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Antiques road show? I appraise items that people? Okay, I
would watch that. No, it's so they they're changing it up,
but they're changing up the way they do things. But
it used to be a Fox affiliate and they used
to do an hour of news. So and on the
East Coast news is at eleven, so their news was
a ten. Like are you going to be like back

(07:58):
to you? No? No, no, it was like so they
did instead of an hour of news, they did thirty
minutes of like back to you news from the anchor desk,
and then they did this show called The Edge, and
they started the show called the Edge for the next
thirty minutes. Because they had a weatherman in the two
thousands that was, uh, well, you could say that. You've

(08:22):
probably seen clips of this guy on the internet. He
didn't do the weather. He just did whatever he wanted.
His name is Mark Mathis, and you should go you
should you should YouTube him. He he did everything, but
he'd stand in front of the weather wall, but then
he'd just go on these rants about I mean, it's
just I count you know what, I guarantee over the years,
you've seen this guy's clips. He'd dress up in costumes,

(08:44):
he'd he was, well, I have seen that guy.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah. So then they were like, Okay, this guy's not
going to do the weather, so let's just do a
TV show. So they started this show for him, and
then you know, some of some of his behavior may
have caught up with him, and so he may have
been let go because he was enjoying him know, and
I like Mark Mathis is a friend of mine. He's
a good guy, very talented guy. But he was, you know,

(09:09):
having a lot of fun and it was very entertaining.
And so then he left. And then they tried to
find different pairings over the years of people to do it,
and then they rest. They arrived at Morgan, this woman
in Charlotte and me and we did it for three
years and then I laughed, and I think they tried
more pairings and it just I don't know. Sometimes you
have chemistry with people. It's the same way around here.

(09:31):
You know, for the most part, we've all had great chemistry,
but we've also sort of of late kind of handpicked
people on the show based on what we kind of
already know as opposed to looking from the outside, because
I will say, I'm not talking shit, but I think
it would be very, very hard at this point, after
fifteen years and most of us have known each other
for at least a decade, if not longer, it would

(09:52):
be very hard for someone to come in from the
outside and just fit in. It's a hard thing to do.
And so sometimes you just can't know. Chemistry is what
it is. It just finds, it finds itself. You know,
we knew Kiki for almost what eight years before you
were on this show, and then it was like what
about Kiki? You know, and then here look at now
you're you know, wildly famous, just beyond beyond all of us.

(10:13):
It's just insane, insane level of fame. That's it's just hard.
You know, before long Bellow will be guy who knows
she got she got her first show on the radio,
right and the smack dab in the middle of the day,
the highest listing time in the weekend. Let's just put
the new girl on, who's never done this before. Brilliant,
I say so, That's why I'm doing that, And Uh,

(10:35):
I don't know. I guess I'll hopefully there are ways
people can to watch it here, because well, that would
make the most sense, wouldn't it. But nobody wants me
on TV in Chicago. Nobody nobody wants me. I have
been kicked out of every television state. I've been basically
fired from Fox. Downstairs. They told me just don't come back.
Oh they did not, Yes they did. I was I
was doing I don't know. I was on like every
Wednesday morning for six or eight months, and then one

(10:57):
week they were like, don't come back anymore, just stop coming,
and so I did. And then there's another TV station
that won't book me. Everyone else on this show has
been on multiple times.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Then WG. That was iconic.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
That was one of the best nights of my career.
That was one of the greatest things I ever got
to do. And I'm not even being funny, and we
love that. That was that was that was for me.
I don't mean that was not iconic because I was
on it. It was iconic because I got to.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Be It was iconic.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I mean it was like a like a fever dream.
I got to play Bozo Buckets with Bozo and Dean
Richards with Scottie Pippen watching me and Mike did get
walking down the hall. I'm like, what the.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Oh my god, I want.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Buckets, fair and square. I want it. It doesn't matter
that I can just reach in and my arms are
so long that I could just set the ball. Scottie
Pippen was even worse, like he reached past the last one,
like it's a little different when you're five. Everyone after
supposed to be playing that game. But I won the
bike and they wouldn't give me the fucking bike. I
I was so upset. I genuinely Jason saw me negotiating.

(12:09):
I won the bike. I tried to leave with it.
They didn't know I was going to do that, and
they were like, Fred, you got to give the bike back.
I'm like, it's like a pink bike with tassels on
it with you too, though, with training wheels on it.
I had to give him back to come on. But
I'm sure you remember this, Jason, but I said, I
will buy fifty bikes. I'll buy I will buy you
because we already donated it to like a charity, and

(12:31):
I like a children say, and I go, that's wonderful.
I'll buy you ten bikes. I want this one because
I wanted and they were like, no, you can't have it.
I was very very upset about it. But that was
That's top three moments of my whole career. Yeah, I
mean Beyonce who, Taylor no offense, Taylor who? I played
Bozo Buckets on the WGN morning News at night just

(12:53):
to be there. It was really something. But you no,
I don't. I can get on TV and Charlotte where
we're not on the radio and I haven't been in
fifteen years, but I can't get on TV where I
live and we have the number one show. But you know,
who knew? Who knew? There's another show that won't have
me on? And if they do, when they used to,
I would sit there because I would literally sit on
the set and then they would talk and I would

(13:15):
just be like like, they wouldn't address it. They wouldn't
address me. Oh they would, they would talk to me.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I would protest, and.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Then do you remember it? We were on Oh god,
this this was a whole fucking thing. Do you remember,
Oh gosh, I was this?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
You were?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yes? Can I say the name of you guys? No?
Don't say Yeah, but like they made us do these
hits on a local TV show, which in retrospect, everybody
on that show went on to do great things like
very talented people that the producer was talented, the anchors
were talented, but it was a bad conceptual idea radio

(13:55):
TV on the radio is not entertaining, like like they
wanted they put cameras in the studio, radio on TV
radio on well because okay, no TV on the radio either.
It didn't. It was if you were watching it, it
might have been better. But if you were driving in
your car and you can hear these people that you
don't know talking and they're doing a topic and it

(14:18):
just it didn't print. It would have been perfect off
the air, but they insisted that it be simulcast, and
then the tech didn't work, like there were delays, and
then it wasn't They made us time our show out
to be perfect with what they were trying to do,
and I think we did it four or five times,
and I want to say four of the five times
either they couldn't hear us or it didn't work. So
here we are on our radio, people are listening in

(14:40):
the car and we're going, hey, no one's talking to us.
No one in the car can see this. It was
just terrible. So one week I just said screw it,
and I decided to do what we always do on
this show, which is just be self deprecating and just
basically say you need to turn on the TV because
this is going to be a train wreck again, another

(15:01):
train wreck. I'm like, turn the TV on, guys, because
we're gonna look like idiots again for the fifth week
in a row. That resulted in an absolute meltdown. They
canceled all their advertising. They said you're never coming back here,
you can never be on the station again, which we were.
We actually did go wind up going back on the
show in person, but oh yeah, they canceled hundreds of

(15:22):
thousands of dollars worth of advertising. How dare you? And
I'm like, how many meetings? Oh my god. The guy
who was the boss at the time, I wound up
having to like basically write this this Mia Kolpa email
where I was like, guys, I'm sorry that you don't
understand our approach, but like this is what we do.
Like we tell people that we sucky, we tell like
we point out our flaws. Like I guarantee people tuned

(15:45):
in to see us look like idiots because I told
them to, and they just didn't get it. They're like,
you're missing our show and you're saying our shows, which
I don't. I wasn't. I thought the concept sucked.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
We also, wouldn't we take like would we pick like
a like a code word to drop in? That was
very funny and silly, like we.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Were doing everything we could to get people to that
were listening to us to want to watch that, because
you got to remember, ninety percent of the people who
listened to us or in the car, they're not near
a television like and I've seen shows do this over
the years where they do hits, where morning shows do
hits on TV, but they don't try and simulcast them.
Because that's the other thing is that show was live.
We were live, and they made so we had to

(16:28):
tap dance on the air until they were ready for us,
and it never worked right. It just was a mess.
And it would have been way better if we had
just done the TV part during a commercial break and
then either re aired it or or just pointed to it.
And I suggested all of that. None of that was
an option, And so finally at the end, I'm just like,
let's see if this works. Like, turn on a TV

(16:51):
because you're gonna watch us picking our noses because we're
not gonna be ready and it's gonna suck.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
This is true.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I did not say the TV show sucked. I did
not say the TV stations sucked. I did not say
any of that. Oh, it was a mess. I don't
think they advertised to this day. They were so mad,
and I'm like, but do you understand the context, Like
this is what we do, Like do you know who
you got into business with a bunch of clowns. You

(17:19):
gotta admit. We don't take very much seriously around here. No,
And I think that's why people like us, because it's
like this might screw up and like just you know whatever.
I mean, we've done live broadcasts, we're off the air
at the time, techno music's playing in certain places. It's
just whatever. You know. There's one city we can't even
stay on the air in and they want to know
why we're in seventeenth place. I'm like, well it might

(17:40):
help if we can stay on the air. That would
be super helpful.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Some cities I've never heard from ever again.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, No, we are on in places where they won't
This show is airing in cities where they won't write
us back.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I've never been ghosted so hard.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I I don't get in right. Damn. It's like I
think we're on the air there. I don't know. I
think we should probably check. Anybody taken us off and
even tell us. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I was going there and knocking on the door. I've
exhausted all options.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Which I might do. I might do it, Jason, let's
hop in air, Fred, We're going, let's go like, what
did we do to you? What did we do to you?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Like?

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I don't We're so happy to have you. I don't
know what the problem is.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I don't take rejection.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Well I don't either. It's hurting my feelings anyway. I
can't get on the TV where I live, so I
got on the TV in a place where I don't live.
So that's that's the explanation. And I'm sorry to the
people who I guess I've pissed off in the process.
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
I'm constantly going to TV, so I can't relate you.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
You just did it was it was just once you
all of you you all of it. Yes, you all
are getting booked on this stuff, and I'm so happy
about it, like good, at least it's somebody. But I
don't know what I did. I really don't know. I
guess I'm I also know I'm not for everybody, so
it's fine. And I think I think, you know, I
think the last time I was on one of the shows,

(18:54):
I just I was just calling out someone in the
audience the whole time. It was some some lady and
I was just flirting with her on oh yeah wow.
Well but she was like so she was all excited
I was there, and I was just like, look, I
got one fan and I was just crowd work with
this one lady, and I thought it was funny. They
didn't so crowd You never had me on again.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Kevin Hart.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I just it's like ladies, it's just not a lady.
Nothing is that serious, you know. But I would think
people would want to have us on more because we're,
you know, we have an audience, Like I don't, I
don't know, And you got to remember, like, what do
you think people don't expect me to go on there
in a suit and time and be like and tonight
at five, they'd be like, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
I will say, some people in TV have a hard
time like going off script or whatever, and that's like
all we do there is no script, so sometimes I
could be scary for people.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Well, I think that's how this TV show kind of
started originally, and I'm surprised that it hasn't been duplicated.
I think for live TV it's just so or local
TV rather, it's just so outside the box. But that
was the thing is the TV station loved to use
radio people because it's like I can teach I remember
one of the managers telling me, like I can teach
a radio person how to read a teleprompter, I can't
always teach someone who can read a teleprompter how to

(20:10):
how to just ad lib. And there's no disrespect. A
lot of news anchors and TV personalities are excellent at it,
but it's a different skill. Like I can't stand at
a crime scene and succinctly explain to you what happened
and tell the story and paint the picture the way
that they can. But at the same time, you know,
all we do here is here's a one line topic

(20:31):
now go for fifteen minutes like, that's what we do.
So it's easy for us to do. That's, in fact,
that's all we're really good at. So I don't know,
so I think that's why. That's why this whole show
was born. And we'll see. I don't live there, and
I don't know how long it lasts or how long
it makes sense to last, but it's fun to do
it for now. And but yeah, boy, I got people
spun out on Friday. Oh you're moving. Oh you got fired?

(20:53):
All the show's over. It's like not yet. I mean
I will eventually get fired. They will eventually walk me
out of it. Hey girl, stop everybody does.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
No, you could also go out on your own terms,
which is.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
When I company will never let me do that. Christ
of her. No, they will never allow that. They're gonna
fire my ass. It's gonna be fine. I just I
just hope it's you know, when I'm ready for them
to do that. I hope. I hope, my homie, I
hope my investment guys you know, got me all lush.
I need Chad to get me flushed before that, because
lord knows, I A'm going to get another job.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
So you know, Now, when are you getting a place
in Charlotte that I could go stay and visit?

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Well, now that's the thing I think that you guys
should I should incorporate you into this time. I believe
that we should be doing. We need to introduce the crudity.
There's another idea floating around that I can't discuss. It's
actually there's actually a non disclosure about it. Truly, I'm
not I'm actually not full of shit. There's another idea
floating around that I think is very interesting, and I

(21:50):
think it might it might be happening a lot of
red tape, a lot of logistics, but it's an interesting
idea and it might we might be testing it soon ish.
But what I've found is we're going on tour sort
of singing, sort of no, no, not singing. But what
I what I have found is that people will tell

(22:10):
me things are a good idea until I agree to them,
and then it becomes miles of red tape and it's like,
so I don't I don't even know where to begin
with that. But we'll see. We're working on someone came
up with an idea and then we've sort of eld
we we whiteboarded it. We spitball the idea a little bit.

(22:32):
I think it's interesting. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
I want to be an anchor. Can we make that.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Sure, I'm doing the opposite. Sure, I only want to teleprompter.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Sure, thank you. Yeah. Anyway, Well I'll post clips and
you'll see it's it's ridiculous. It's not serious at all.
It's the anti news. Thank you. It's very exciting. I'm
just I'm just it's just cool to that that they
that I used to do it and then they wanted
me to come back and do it like that. To
me is it's just un plattered that they would care.
Because when I was doing it, I didn't think they

(23:05):
thought very much. I think they thought I was a
big fucking moron, which I was. I mean, I had
a fauxhawk, and you know, I don't know. My brain
wasn't fully formed. I'm not saying that it is now,
but like I didn't know what I didn't know, So
I think that's why it worked. I said ridiculous things.

(23:26):
But I intend to do it again because here's the thing.
They can fire me there and nobody will know, right,
Like it'd be like, oh, he was here and now
he's gone, and like, I don't know what happened. So
all right, well that's the tangent. And now we're gonna
go off and do other things now. But I want
everyone to have a nice day, and thanks for listening.
And if you made it this far, if you would

(23:48):
make this a preset Fred Show on Demand, a preset
take a seconds, if I'll find us in all of
the socials because we are being evaluated and all of that.
We ask a lot of the thirteen listeners I know,
and we're very grateful that most of you do it.
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