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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I got two things with the Tangent today. One the
Bella set me and then one that I want to
talk about with Kiki. So hit the intro. It's the
Tangent giving you all this ship we couldn't talk about
on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Kiki, what does this mean on our sheet? You know?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We have this sheet and we all like like a
shared document. Everyone writes their ideas into it, and then
we picked the ones that we want to do. And
there are way more ideas on here than we have
time for. But let me see his Oh here's it's
from Kiki. I landed on plus size stripper TikTok last night,
and it might be the sign I've been looking for.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yes, well, what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well, I think it was a sign that, you know,
for my second career. I always said I wanted to
do Wialmark Greeter, but I can make I can make
way more money as a midnight Ballerina is what they
call us.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Can I love my plus size strippers and TikTok.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, it's that I watched their lives.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
They're counting the money, they're getting ready for the night.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I just got off stage, like I love ye. Wow,
I'll be your house Mom.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
You know that's my dream. So I'll give you your
bobby pins, your glitter, I'll.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Cook for you.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Open up a club.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Woh yeah, there's one for sale that Fred sent me.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, in Detroit. There's a trip club for sale. I
was looking for investors. But Caitlyn it would you know,
she wants me to buy it. But I got five
on it, kind of like with the boat. But okay,
so wow, would you actually do it? Do you think
could you actually do it? I mean because I know
you can do it, but like, can you do it?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Meet right now, Kiki, right now in twenty twenty five. No,
I couldnt.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, why not?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Just because I just, you know, I'm not comfortable in
that type of way, just throwing it on random people
and you know, kind of being objectified. I feel like
sometimes our midnight and ballerinas are So I couldn't do
it right now, but I would never say never, because
you don't judge people's stories. Some people do it. I
have friends that.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
We're just trying to get tough nursing school.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yea, yeah. I have friends that were exotic dancers and
they made a killing of money, like a bag money
every night.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, I know, I don't. I mean, I don't judge either,
I just I don't. I know we've talked about this before.
I know I couldn't date a stripper because even though
I know that's their job and that it's compartmentalized and there,
you know, are boundaries for the most part.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I hope I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I don't think I would be okay and I'm not possessive,
but it's like, from a value proposition, I don't think
I would be okay with the woman who I'm hooking
up with and with intimately, and you know, whatever goes
to work and then makes a bunch of other guys
or it maybe not even makes but you know, yes,
makes a bunch of other guys feel valued in a fake,
fraudulent way for money. I just don't know that I
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would want to share that with somebody, right.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
And I didn't know that there was a lane for
plus sized women on the stripper network, Like I didn't
know that, yeah, because they don't you know, it's not
the normal body that people expect, So I didn't know
girls were doing this. But it's a whole market out
there of plus sized women that are out here in
all the money Okay, so I was shocked by I
support it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah no, I mean I do too. I just again
I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And I also don't know if I could really take
an OnlyFans person seriously past or present, because it's like
if you're huha if I can see your ovaries on
the internet, Like I don't know that that's something that
I want my friends to be able to go look up.
Yeah no, and again no judgment, like zero do you
like how? Like I said, I know a girl I
used to date or twenty years ago before all this
stuff that makes a quarter million dollars a year showing
(03:30):
her who haa on the internet and and most of
it's solo stuff. But mand just she works smarter, not harder.
I think I told you guys this, but like you know,
you can get personal videos and they're more expensive where
she's supposedly diddling herself and thinking about you, and people
will pay hundreds of dollars for these. And I was like, man,
like how many a day would you do? And she's like,
I don't know, Like you know, ten twenty videos a
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so you diddle yourself twenty times a day? I mean,
life that you can have right, you got rug burn?
Yeah right, I'm worried about you. And she's like, no, no, no, no.
I do it once and then I have an editor
go through and dub over the way it's edited. It
sounds like she just says the names and then and
it's dubbed over, so like twenty guys are getting the
same video with their name and she pays someone to
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do this and then she gets paid like it was
made for them. I mean, work hard, it's smarter, not harder.
I mean, I'm all for that. I'm all for the officials.
This woman, I think so too. Yeah, And I guess
there's something about being the guy who gets to hit
it or everybody else gets to jack off to it.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But at the same time, I just I just don't
think that's something I want to share with anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And I think.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Sometimes people can mentally make it like this is just
body parts, these are just body parts, like this is
just normal. It's not they. I feel like the sex
workers don't consider it, like like overthinking, like we overthinking,
you know what I'm saying, like, oh my god, you
saw my private part. They don't care.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Oh no, I think you're right. No, it's an insecurity.
I mean, it's on me, it's not on them. But
it's just like I'm gonna if I'm on a table
and my girlfriend and I are sitting there and everybody
else at the table has seen her naked, right because
they looked it up on like I just I wouldn't
dig that. I wouldn't like it. But and then here's
topic number two. And this is from Bella. Uh it's
his tangent idea. I'm not sure if anyone has seen this.
(05:08):
There's a viral video online of a woman saying that
gingers like redheads in parentheses. Thank you, thank you for
clear it what a ginger is. Gingers in brenthesies like redheads,
are black. Gingers are black.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I see that on two.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Let me hear this.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
I need to remind y'all again everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
By the way, this is a black woman who's saying this.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Just for the record, ginger who has red hair, those
are black people. All gingers are black people. If they
have red hair, they are black. You see a white
man with red hair, that's a black man. You see
a white woman with red hair, that's a black woman.
Gingers are black. All gingers, now, I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I'm not I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm not clear. I don't understand. Come again, like what
is right? Like I don't what is where is this
coming from?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Like I don't know my nephew that is that I'm marrying,
like not marrying my nephew, but I'm marrying him and
his wife the wedding. He's a ginger and that is
a white man is not black.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Plus, I think I don't know what was she talking
about some kind of like lineage or is there some
sort of like d NA component to this that she
I mean, where is she?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't understand where sources?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yes, I think he just decided that on her own.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know what. I don't know, Like what what
is this based on?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Let's go out to talk and say wild crap?
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Or is this just rage bait or something? I don't know.
But here's some responses and everything. Okay, well that's fine,
thanks Bella for this.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well bell just sent me a video. Here are the videos, like, okay,
well thanks for the.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We are an audio medium. Yeah, so you.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Know, well first she first she texted them to me
on my phone and I was like, well Belle, I can't.
I can't play these off my phone. Got a beat
from Kim thanks for the ice Cube song. Let's see
if this one's the same. I don't know the same thing.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Does she send the wrong videos, No.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
She's sending me videos on the same topic, except there
they don't have any words in them.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They're just songs.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh you have to read the Yeah, it's just people
reacting to TikTok. Just told me this isn't an interracial
interracial relationship and it's a white looking guy and a
black woman because apparently redheads are black.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah we.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, we do every week.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
But people can hear, like you know, they can hear
the people speaking instead.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Right, right, here's another one.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
I've been wanting to hop in on this, Gingers. This
is a black woman black people of white people because
I've been saying this. I had a mentor in college.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And by the way, she didn't say they're the this
woman's theory. The original video didn't say that they're the
black people of white.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
People, right, that would be a big clarification.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Like what she said. What she said was they're black.
She didn't say they're the black people of white people.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, yeah, no, don't Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Now, that is an interesting theory. I don't know that
that's true, but I do think that redheads have a
certain spirit to them. I don't know that you necessarily
would go as far as to say they're the black
people of white people. Yeah, but like I can think
of one right now, isn't Uh, I'm gonna mute it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I don't want to say that loud. I'm gonnamute it. Isn't.
Isn't he a redhead? Yes?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Now, that guy, that guy gives he gives interracial energy
for me.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I'm sure he's interracial somehow, but we don't want to
get into.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
No no, no, no, no spirits don't.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, no, I don't. I don't know about that. But
this is a black woman saying this. This is not
my concept, but I can think of some examples. But
I can also think of some examples that of people
who are white who give off a certain energy that
are not redheads either.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
So I don't think it has anything to do with.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Right, I don't think that has anything to do here.
Danger Like that's possible. Yes, So, yeah, I don't get this.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
The name was Paul S. His last name is Polish.
I'm not going to tell you his last name, so
I'm gonna put s. But he's my mentor. We still
text to this day. But I told him. I was like, Paul,
because I just got here. I'm fresh out the hood.
I'm fresh out like a really diverse city. Like I'm
like Paul, I see a lot of Gingers and they're
real aggressive. They they're real like you know about the ship,
(09:32):
Like you can't really push over on them or nothing.
And I just know that from watching. And when I
told my mentor, Paul was like, Bro, they're they're literally
the black people of white people for real, Like they
don't take no shit, and like, I don't know now
that the whole Ginger conversation that they are, you know,
black people, and like they're really like tying back to
(09:54):
the historical.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
All right, we're talking about a whole bunch of different
I don't understand where this is coming from. A little
context would have been nice. Now here's a white Ginger
who has something to say. Of course, the.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
Redheads are the black people of white people. And I
do believe that I have pieces of evidence that should
be submitted to the pot.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Now again, this is two different things.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
The original video, the woman says gingers are black, no
matter what color your skin actually is, right, and then
it's now been transformed into that gingers are the black
people of white people, which I get. I'm not even
sure exactly what that means exactly or if that's even
a universal thing.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Number one.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
In the same way, certain types of white people have
to let you know that they have black friends, that
they've interacted with a black person before they do the
same thing with redhead. They have to tell me that
their cousin three times removed was a redhead, there was
someone in their family that was a redhead. They knew
a redhead, they had a redhead branch.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
I knew a.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Redhead once that I hated, But you've changed my entire
opinion on all redheads. That kind of dialogue fascinating.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Number two.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
In the same way, white people will reach out and
touch your hair without asking for permission. They do the same.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Thing with redhead.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
They think our hair is going to feel like spun gold.
Possibly I don't know, but they love to stick their
oily little talents all around it. Number three were fetishized
the same isn't that so fun? My best friend's a
black woman and she's in the dating pool, and she
tells me all the time how white men are, like,
I've never been with that black Carol dah Are, And.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
I'm like, oh, that's funny.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
I've gotten that quite a bit from those folks. It's
like they view us as some item to check off
a bucket list, like an experience very few get to have.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Okay, yeah, I mean two things can be true, but
I don't think we need to connect them together. I
just think, you know, black people have been through a lot,
still go through a lot. Redheads, I'm sure you feel
that you have as well, but let's not compare, can trast.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean, I spent the last fifteen minutes trying to
make sense of something from TikTok, which is that's my
first mistake. But I guess I just I'd love to
know where this person's if there's any real basis for
where this person's coming from. And then there was a
reference to something historical. I don't even know what that is.
You know, maybe I'm the ignorant one for not understanding this,
but I guess I don't.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I don't understand it seems like redheads are trying to
say they're being discriminated against.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
In some way, or that they're treated as unique in
a way that black people are treated unique.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I mean maybe, yeah, not no, you know, let's just
talk about your boat. Honestly, everybody's welcome on your boat
doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well, first of.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
All, I don't discriminate, and I don't even want to
hear it, because you know, if you were to look
at the PowerPoint of my dating history, oh yeah, and
it's an extent, it would take several days to go
through it, you will see that I have not left
anyone out. No one, no nation has been left out. Nice, No,
not at all. No, seriously. The only the only person
(12:29):
I don't believe I've dated in North Korean because they're
not allowed to leave the country. But if one were
to escape and South Korean, yes, So Korean, check, so Asia,
several Asian nations, Middle East, South America. I've hit every
continent except for maybe Antarctica. Antarctica and that North and
(12:52):
North Korea is not a continent. But I've hooked up
with Russians, I've hooked up with various I mean, my god,
every Eastern European nations. I'm bringing nations together at this point.
Canadian Czeck Mexican. Check my god. So don't talk to
me about in Africa all throughout.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Africa, Okay. And I've never seen it as a fetish either.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's like I like what I like, you know, because
people will say, what's your type? And I'm like, I
don't know that I have one. I like it's a vibe.
It's a vibe, you know. They say, do you like
big boobs, your big ass? I'm like, I like proportion.
I don't know if it looks right, it looks if
I like it.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I like a rocket.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I mean, do you find that you have Do you
have a type? I mean it's not tall, skinny white guys.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I tried.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
No if that was a cry for help, yeah, if
I would you date a tall, slender white man? Yes, no,
I'm just kidding. We've talked about this before and you
said you'd never dated a white guys.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I haven't. I have not dated one. But that doesn't
mean I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay, Okay, And then Caitlin, I don't. I don't think
I can pin you for a type because I thought
I thought I knew your type. It was much older dickheads. Yeah,
and you went for a same age. What seems to
be the opposite of a.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Dickhead you're younger, makes me sick on he worships you.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So that's you went for the exact You went from
like treat you like shit to like, actually like thinks
your ship is the most amazing thing he's ever seen.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Well, I'm trying to grow, fred, I'm trying to work
on me and and learn that I can accept you know,
kind behavior.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's a journey. I like it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I was. I was worried about the sustainability, but you
should be. No, I know, I'm happy for you. I
like it much better than than what you've done in
the past.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Looks wise, Yeah, if you line him up.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I mean, you know, my boyfriend now looks like my
ex before him was black or well I'm sure he
still is black.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I haven't just head though.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I did.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
No, no, no, So.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, looks wise no, And I typically used to go
for the same personality type.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
But I've been, you know, working on myself and growing.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So okay, Jason, Uh, would you say you had a type?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I always said older games, so well you did it
before well after women.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Meet Yeah, everyone I've dated. I think honestly, like unclockable
gays are like my oh you love the three guys
that I could say actually had like a real relationship
with in my life that wasn't just like hookups, like
you would never know they were gay. So I think
that may be like my type. I see, it's like
the straight leaning or presenting straight presenting gay because I
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don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I've never seen Mike in the wild like in his element.
I've never been to the gay raj. Oh. Yeah, but
if I didn't know it was a gay raj, I
can I can see me not knowing that Mike was gay.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Oh yeah, No, one like any of his like customers
or whatever, can clock it.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I mean the garage sign and then the rainbow shirts.
Everyone has to wear the rainbow onesies. Yeah yeah, yeah,
it would give gay. Yeah, but apparently he's just he's
just very pride pride forwards. He's an ally. Yeah that's
all it is, Okay, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I don't have a type. I guess, you know, maybe
it's white, redhead black people.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I don't, right, I don't. That is I'm still puzzled.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'm still puzzled by this and I'm a little puzzled
to why this was what bell I thought we should
talk about. But hey, you know, it has literally literally
hundreds of millions of likes and views on these videos.
There are a ton of them, So this is an
actual debate that's going on, and I don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Sometimes we just don't need to talk about everything.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
No into our break No, we probably don't. Well, if
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