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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you really think the band is called Seether.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
See thirt Seether, It's Seether.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I'll let Seither know that it's it's it's Seether.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's all right, let's see the tangent.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
It's the tangent giving you all this ship we couldn't
talk about on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Man, I don't know we should do this Seither. The
last time I played Seather, that was a mid two
thousand stract too, that we were banging on the new
ninety six to seven Kiss FM. All of Austin's hit music,
not just some of it, which one because broka, how
many seconds of songs can I play in a podcast
before we get nailed?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I think immediately, why are.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
You looking at me? Because you know you know I
break the rules?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Well, because I want to play a little bit of it.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
The specifically said the throwback throw down. This is different.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh right, let's see here I'm going to the problem.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Is I don't think it is, but I don't think
it is. Jason to be the police, not me.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Hey, I just want to hear see thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh we do have it.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
The thing is the intro is like forty seconds longer.
I would say, like I want to hear you post it.
I want to hear you talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, need you to know.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
The way you Okay, alright, alright, so nainety six to
seven Kiss FM all of Austin's hit music, not just
some of it. Jason Brown, Yeah, the new Natty going
right now. Fuck, I want to I want to hear
you be DJ guys.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, okay, because I used.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
To do this and thank God that there is no
remaining evidence of that time of my life. And I
did think about it the other day when they when
I was going through my house and organizing it or
I didn't do it, someone did it for me, but
they found an iPod like the original iPod, and I
was like that, I don't want this, I don't need it.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's not worth anything. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I realized probably on that iPod would have been everything
from my iTunes, which would have included some audio of
Brother Fred, the Nighttime DJ, I Need the doing Austin's
Most Wanted count down, the songs number five, the number
one and you can tell me all you would a
pizza at the end of it, and what else did
(02:14):
we do? Hot girl check in the sundown survey. It
was like, oh God, this ship was so bad. It worked,
but it was it was what was the sundown survey
right at six when I would go on six pm?
It was you know, it was just a stat It
was like eighty one percent of women consumer this every
year that and people would call in and they would guess,
(02:36):
got it. What really fucking sucked is when somebody would
guess right the first call when everything was recorded that
like I played all those songs off the box, bro,
but like off the machine that we recorded. We don't
do that anymore because all the calls we take now
are live. But no, but somebody would call and they
would say it like it was really easy, and then
I had to string it out for twenty minutes somehow, you.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Know, Oh yeah, stretch, you're right?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So I had, yeah, that's funny, Yeah all right you ready?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I forgot the name of the station, but I
got it.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Then kiss FM.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Okay, all of Austin's hit music, not just some of it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'm gonna try to Okay, here we get ready.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
It's the new ninety sixth seven Kiss Up, Austin's number
one for music, not just some of it. This is
Jason Brown and you don't see there. I sat on
his face once his ears broken with Amy Lee.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Pretty good. I wanted you to know that was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
The story better than my current weekend show.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I would listen to that.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I would who said on Who's face?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Okay, I'm going to give you another one from the
same Are you ready? I'll tell you what it is
and let me see if I can tell you how
long the intro is.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I don't know. If I know, it's like ten seconds.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's the whole tag.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And I know that was part of the problem. That
is part of the fucking morons that came up with that.
I'm like, dude, it's that's.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
All I'm gonna say, right, Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Ryan Cabrera on the Way Down, all right, these are
all songs from this era, okay, and don't worry, everyone's
going to get a turn.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's sweating, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, okay, the.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
New ninety six seven kiss up for music, not just
some of it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Ryan Cabrera and they had Sex.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
With Us said, here's the song when I was.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Straight with my girlfriend All the way down.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I had a couple more seconds.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You're close.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Here's the song, Yeah, when I was straight.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Memoir for me it's the desperation. It's like it's like
you're being a hostage.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
And if you don't, yeah, right, right right, let me
think of another one from wait what is it?
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Because you're confusing the the ninety seven Kiss, the.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
New ninety six seven Kiss FM, all of Austin's hit music,
not just some of it. You want to do seventeen
seconds Okay, baby Bash and Frankie Jy Sugar Sugar, Oh
yeah with Jason just said so he said, thank my girl.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
When I when I.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Was trying, sick and tired, right right right, fucking guy
Brian Cabrera, he's friends with a friend of mine, and
uh yeah, well, I you know what's funny is I
did ask. I said, hey, can you do you think
you give us a deal? It liked on like a
(05:47):
you know, Tangent Live or something like you think he'd
do it for it? And it was like, oh, yeah,
he'd do it, Like really, I think he'd be happy
to do it. No, I was talking. We had I've
told this story. I only have five stories, but I
we have when in the height of it all, the
height of it all, we had him play a show
a little like of showcasing and so he was like
(06:09):
in the back and it was a hard rock cafe
in Austin.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I think it's gone. But he was at a table
and it.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Was all courtoned off and his management and security or whatever,
and all these listeners were there and he was eating
and I'm talking to the hottest girl and bald head
management guy comes over and says to her, excuse me,
Ryan Cabrera would like to see you at the table.
And she's like, cool, bye, and walk your ass.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Away from me.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
You know, twenty minutes later at the back in a hotel,
It's like okay. But I always thought he was a
big pussy for that, because it's like, dude, you walk
over like you're doing yourself, and he was like ten
feet away.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It wasn't like he couldn't.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Was he smiling like when you guys come and.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So yeah, I was like st our friend Billy to kid,
I'm like, they like hang out. I'm like, Billy, tell
him he's a fucking dick. I'll never forgive him for it,
But will he play a show for us? Because I
think people would like it. Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I never did this? Okay, you got this.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You got it?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
This was never Okay, no, you never know. You never
had to jock it up, right, you never had to
be a DJ.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
No, I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I regret that for you.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
You never had to be a lot of things, right
LFE Right.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I regret this tangent that I said I wanted to do,
and that's the thing I did offer. I said tangent.
No tangent. You said, oh I got time for for
the thirteen ok And I wasn't even intending to do this,
but whatever, Okay, So I want you to bring yourself
back to this place because you got seventeen seconds.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So that's a long end.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
That's a lot, Okay, I know you're asking a lot, Okay, Okay,
all right, the new ninety six to seven Kiss FM
all of Austin's hits, not just some of it. I
am kbabay and believe it or not, in the future,
my friend and coworker will be in talks with one
of these artists to have the matter wedding. The rider
and cost was too high. Anyways, this is shot, said
(07:56):
the baby dash and Franky j.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Ever.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
You to get yourself a weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
What are you doing this weekend? Turn it out?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm literally shaking like I don't like these exercises. I'm
spot I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Good. Let me think of some other bullshit we were
playing back then.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
I had to have that tag typed out in front
of me at all time.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I did.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
I did take the name of the station because you
were like ninety seven four five six some.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Hits music today?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Do we not?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
You can't have you know, some Rob Thomas in Santana's
Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
A hot one.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Wait, we never played that?
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Is that band?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, it's Nickelback.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It's no, it's not it's no, it's it's Rob Thomas
in Santana.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Oh smooth?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
What am I thinking of your thinking of?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Why don't you and I that's that check? Is that
Chack Kruger?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I don't think it is. Hold on, I don't know.
I only look this up.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
What about three Am?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That was a fucking that was before my time?
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Thankfully her Diamonds when you went solo.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Yeah, it's Santana and Chad Krueger it is. Yeah, yeah,
I don't just listen to it. Definitely know Chad Kroger's.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Time. I thought it would Jesus all right, do we
have that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
From the album Shaman?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Do we not even have we don't even have that?
What kind of we have like a like an old
person station here, what kind of right?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
No, they just they're playing our stuff now.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Sounds like a great strategy, makes perfect sense. Let me
think another song from that. Let me look it up.
Let me look it was two thousand, I'm gonna look
that up, two thousand, let's say two thousand and.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Five, one looking up, three doors down.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Okay, I'm gonna give you. I got one.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
This was, uh, this was this is I don't know
if it still is, but for a while, this was
the most pop, like, the most the most played pop.
I could spit it out, the most played pop song ever.
And I'll never forget I heard it. I was sitting
with dipshit boss at the time and the music label
and I heard it and I said that, and I've
(10:22):
been wrong about a lot of songs too, but I
was like, that is a fucking smash and the guy goes,
that is a piece of shit. We will never play
that song. Who and he was my boss more than
once And anyway, this is your Turnkeiki Mariah Carey, we
belong together.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Oh okay.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Now this song has multiple posts. They call it a
post where the song starts. There's a lyric, a couple
of lyrical posts, and then there's the lyrics. I always
just treated the lyrics. I talk all over them, give
a shit. But let me see maybe you've got.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
People would pause for the y Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Well, if you were really good, then you'd like talk
and then pause and then keep going absolutely yeah, And
people this is a skill that people like, how do
you do that? You just after you've heard the song
a number of times and you just sort of know, now,
I guess making it sound kind of rhythmic and making
it sound like you're not a gun isn't.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Held to your head.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's why I struggle off.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, that's the talent.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
And a lot of guys I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm
gonna I'm gonna be a I'm gonna I'm gonna be
that guy. But a lot of DJs these days don't
know how to do that because they never had to
do it. Because they record it, yes, and then they
just slide it over and they make it sound like that.
That's okay because you never had to do it. But
like some of us back in the day had to
actually push the button and do the thing, and so
(11:41):
there was no option to do that, which meant a
lot of songs.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
And you hear it now. I do it sometimes on
our show.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I talk all over the thing because sometimes I get
thrown off and then it's like hey where and then
you know, what they tell you to do in radio
school is just pretend like that never happened and move on.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
But I could never do that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I gotta stop, make a big scene about it and
start over again, which they don't tell you to do
in radio.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Sing went to radio schools. No one day.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I didn't either, but Redular some boss of mind being like,
hey did ship If you fuck up, do not make
a big deal out of it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
No one heard it?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Heard it?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah? Are you ready sure?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
What's the station?
Speaker 7 (12:19):
It's the new ninety six to seven Kiss FM. All
of Austin's hit.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
All of Austin hit music, not just some of it.
All right, Yeah you would you done fucked it up?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Just fire me? There's so much it's words.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Sound well, that's better than my first station, triple the music.
The new Hot one hundred always at least eighteen songs
in a real party station.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Like Triple Dipper.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Right, well, I think I think the strategy there was
just to take all of the different positioning statements so
that nobody could use any of them.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Right, all of Austin's hit music.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah you can. You can choose.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You want to be triple the music and triple the
music the new hot one hundred always at least eighteen
songs in a real party station, rolls off the top.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Let's get this over. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, but you DJ, you do this. Okay, has created
a teleprompter for you. Okay, got you ready? Okay, here
we go.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Don't worry about my other notes one O three five
Kids FM, Chicago's number one hit music station.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Mariah, shut up, it is.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Not the little one.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
You love somebody don't love them chall single out here
in these streets, okay, because you could just be stuck
and not even able to move like Mariah. But here
she goes, let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
To that, let's go, here she goes. I love it.
I would listen to that.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Here she goes and with those notes, non moving out.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But we love you, Maria, all right, I give you
one ready.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
I'm so rusty.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Stop hurting us.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
This is a long one, Mario. Let me love you this.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I love like the deep thought everyone goes into it
these things is like yes, anyway you ready?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah? Okay? Is this exciting?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
How many seconds?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I'm gonna say you got twenty seconds on this? I
don't know that for.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Ail twenty so it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Just feel it out, just a freestyler.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, okay, you ready?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
It's one of three five kiss that fam. Actually it's not.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's nine six seven of Austin's music.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Many.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
We're in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
I'm not really sure what the sin we're in. Listen right,
If only you knew that you'd be on tour.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
For a throwback kind of thing going on with me
and my girls attending.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
You know what I'm saying, I might just throw it
back from you. Here we go, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Here we go. Oh yeah, but your career would take
you'd be off. I still where did we go? I'm
in went station?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Guy said we.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Were in Dallas. Maybe we're awesome.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
No, that's how I'd be on the weekends for you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But it sounds like no.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Nine six seven.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I mean, honestly, none of you. I would listen to
all of that. I would listen to all of that.
It's an actually excellent work. Only for the sake of this,
I wish I had like a little clip of just
how I was terrible. Oh my god, I was a screamer. Oh,
we were all trying to sound like that. It was
(15:33):
all like you were yelling and that was probably the
hot ness.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Right, Yeah, what's your name? And like, you know, Cynthia City.
Where are you calling from from San Marcos?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
What are you doing to my girl? I know, we're
just driving Aroundison in the.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Radio and I and then I would say to them,
because of course it's recorded, I'd say, tell him you
want to hear Kelly Clarkson, since you've been gone, I.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Want to kind of collocs sent you been gone, you
got to kiss? And then I take that part out.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, and then boom done break radio gold all the
way to the top. Well you keep on screaming, yeah somewhere. No,
it all worked out when I stopped doing that.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
So someone sent me.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
An entertainment report I did on the show I was
on before this when I was filling in, and I
have not opened it, Like, I will not listen to it.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I refuse I bet it was good.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
No, I was I was asked. I was shipped from
a bus.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
It's so cringey to hear yourself, even like a year
like when I listened to like a year ago or
two years, I'm.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Not you currently, Like I can't listen, Like I cannot.
I hate the sound of my voice. I cannot listen.
I will turn anything down that I'm on, Like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So serious, I hate it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I don't want to listen to the early days
of this show.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I don't. It couldn't have been good. I don't know
if I want to listen. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Even during the pandemic when we're like, what is this ship?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know? Last? Yeah, little did we know? Oh I know?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Do you remember that in the pandemic when it was
like it's like March and people are like this might
go through the summer and we're.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Like through the summer, Like, excuse you?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Three years later, oh man, the pandemic they were talking
about we started the show like at eight because nobody
was awake. We went like eight to noon or something,
and then there was talk that we would never go
like they were I remember I was in a meeting
where they were like the listening will never go there
will never be drive time ever again. They were like
(17:34):
no one will ever listen to the radio. Six like
we will never start at five am ever again. And
I was like this is incredible.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
And then they kept like moving us back an hour,
like Okay, you'll have to come in at seven.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Okay, six were like no.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Then my favorite was they were like one guy in
management was like, well you could do like so and
so and everybody else starts at five and then you
come in fred at eight. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's
gonna go over where. Yeah, they'll love me. Yeah that's cool. Yeah,
what a great idea for team unity. Yeah, you guys,
you get up at four and I'll roll in later.
And what's funny is there are people to do that
(18:10):
and I don't know, I'm not better than them, but
I couldn't do that. Like I don't know, I'm a dick,
but I'm not that big of a dick. Like that's terrible.
If you guys got to be here at that time,
then we all got to be here. That's the way
we're doing this. We're all in and we're all out.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
I guess we wouldn't even trust us to be here
without like, what are we going to say, like he's
getting up in an hour.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I don't know. I don't Maybe it would be better,
It might be better. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I don't know what they I don't know what they
thought we were going to do, like okay, Like I
think they thought maybe we would like we'd record ahead
or something.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I don't know what they thought we were gonna do.
I'm like, dude, that's now.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
No, no, don't.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
No, no.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But that was I'm like, oh, great, I'll all run
that by the team and we'll take a vote on that.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Done it.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I get up at seven fifteen the rest of no,
come on. But then someone actually suggested that to me,
and I was like, uh, first way to lose the
room would be to pull some shit like that.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, those were the days, man, I don't know. Do
you ever think about that though? Like I was talking
to my therapist about this, I'm very grateful that we've
had success here. It's taken a very long time to
build and you know, when we started, we were this
show fifteen years ago was sixteenth place, and the thought
of it ever being top ten or even number one
(19:31):
was like truly so far away that I didn't even
think it was possible. And of course, you know, like
any great company, they moved the they moved the goalpost constantly.
You know. When I got here, it was if you
can do this, then you're then that's all we need
from you. And then we did that, and it was like, okay,
but now if you can do this, if you can
just get us top five, that's all we need. That's
all we need, and and you're gonna be set for
(19:53):
your whole life.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
We did that, and then it was, well, now I
got it's got me number one. It has to me
number one, And if you can do that, then you
guys are all all gonna be set for life. And
then we did that, and it was like, oh, you
gotta be wonder than that. That that's all you got.
You're just one by like a little bit. Oh no,
you gotta be one by a lot man. But it's
like when I was driving to work in my little
nineteen ninety six Ford Mustang in Austin, making twenty six
(20:17):
thousand dollars a year, I had I had nothing to lose,
Like I don't know, I had no money. I thought
I had a lot of money because you know, you
graduate college and you really have no money, and then
someone's gonna pay you a couple grand a month to
talk on the radio. And then I did like nightclub
gigs that were two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I was like, what on earth? I can go to
the mall.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I'm like, go and abercromb and buy stuff and that's
gonna happen. I don't know, but I'm not gonna say
I was happier then because all I wanted was the
chance to be this then. But like there, I don't know,
there was a there was a freeness to it all,
Like it's like that nobody gave a shit, you know
what I mean. It was like you, if you do well, great,
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if you don't, nobody seemed to care, and so it
was you were just doing it like because you loved it.
And I wouldn't say it's not still that way. But
when you get and I'm not complaining about our success,
but when you get to a certain point, then it's
like if you're not that, then all of a sudden,
your dog shit. And it's like, I mean, obviously we
always want to be number one all the time, but
(21:16):
like now that's the expectation. So if we don't do it,
it's like it's crushing.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
The pressure and the pressure is getting worse.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And it's worth it's worth it, right, But at the
same again, not complaining that we've done well, but I
don't know there was I guess I wish I knew
then what would happen eventually, so I could have The
point I'm making is not, oh my god, the burden
of doing well. No, we do well because you guys
listen and support us, and that's the only reason. But
(21:46):
I wish, I wish I could have known at twenty
two years old in Austin, Texas, like, soak this up
and enjoy every second of it because you will get
where you want to go someday while still enjoying this
and understanding and appreciating each step of the way. I
don't think I've under I don't think I've appreciated any
step of the way, because every step was to get
(22:06):
to this point, and now we're at this point, and
now all I'm trying to do is stay there. Right,
So it was like Austin was not good enough because
I wanted to be in Dallas, and then Dallas wasn't
good enough because I wanted to be doing mornings and
I wanted to be doing whatever, And then it was
Charlotte wasn't good enough because I wanted to be in Chicago,
and then Chicago wasn't good enough because weren't number one,
(22:27):
and then we get to number one, and now he
has to be number one every time, so it's not
good enough, and so now we have to do it
for how long? And my therapist asked, like, at what
point have you proven yourself? At what point is it enough?
And I can't answer the question. Is it a year
of is it two years, is it five years? Is
it ten years? Like how long do you have to
compete and do well? Before it's like I don't it
doesn't matter what happens anymore because I've proven my point.
(22:50):
And then at what point do you say I've proven
my point? And then it's like I probably shouldn't do
it anymore because I don't. I'm not gonna say I
don't care, but like maybe I've given up on the quest,
because that's my argument is if I'm not if I
don't open the ratings every Friday with misery, praying that
we're at the top, then should I stop doing it?
(23:11):
Like if I don't care, if I don't feel that
men like it's I they don't want me to see
the ratings right like they actually physically have tried in
various ways to prevent me from looking at the ratings,
even though that's how they hold us accountable. They claim
that I'm a crazy person and that it affects my mood,
and they're right, But I found a back doorway. I
have a source who sends me the ratings and they
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come in almost every Friday, and I wake up from
my nap on Friday and I see the email and
there's a pit in my stomach every week and I
slowly open them and I'm like it, is this gonna
be good? Is this going to fuck up my weekend?
And I can tell you right now, my entire weekend
it's predicated on what that thing says. And at what
point does it not matter anymore?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Like, well, it doesn't matter what that says because you've
done what we have done collectively, what we said out
to do. And if at some point I don't care anymore,
I don't open it. I don't feel anything than chy.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
Quit It's good to care like I think you should care.
I think that's why you've gotten to where you are.
I also think it's like you hear this all the time,
Like you know, a lot of people believe, once I
get here, once I have this much money, once I
am famous, once I am this or whatever, you're still
looking in the mirror, and if things are not right
with yourself, you know, then it doesn't feel any different.
(24:22):
So I think it's just we all have to remember
that it's not when I get to X, Y or z.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
I think happiness is an emotion. It's not a goal.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
So it's a feeling. Sometimes we feel it, sometimes we don't.
But I think it's important to remember to like really
live in the moment.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
You know, Yeah, you have to enjoy the journey, and
wherever you are in the journey, you should like be
enjoying that. And sometimes we don't look back at everything
we've like accomplished to get to where we are now
because we live in a society and we work in
an industry.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
It's very much what have you done for me today?
Speaker 8 (24:53):
They don't give a damn about your success yesterday, care.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
About what you have done today.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
But you as a as a human as the person
you have to be able to like in those in
those times of where the ratings might not be in
our favor, remember where you were, Remember all that you've done,
how successful you've been, and that should be a reminder
that you'll it'll happen again, and like you should just
enjoy where you are at the moment because.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well, and I know you're right, but like, and everybody
in this room has a special story, genuinely, but I'll
just use you since you just said that, Like, if
you had said that your goal was to get on
the radio, you got on the radio. If you had
just said, I'm going to soak this up and enjoy this.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I'm on the radio.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's what I set out to do, Well, then you
wouldn't be sitting here because it was seven years removed
from walking in the door to being on the on
the number one and contributing to and helping make the
number one morning show. Like, but so you could say, like,
well I did it, and so I should be happy
and enjoy this and then whatever happens happens. But I
doubt that's the way that you looked at it.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
But it kind of is the way that I looked
at it though, like I I've been able to like
in all my positions that I've worked, I've really worked
hard in that position and tried to be the best
in that position, and doing that opened up new opportunities
for me. So my story and a lot of other
people have to do certain things to get things or
go ask for things. I've been approached for a lot
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of the stuff that I've been able to do now
just because of how I treat it where I am now,
you know what I'm saying, Like they were like, you
a damn good commercial scheduler, and you do it with
a lot of joy and passion.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
What else do you want to do?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
And then that opened up the opportunity for me to
say I would like to do X, Y and Z,
versus me having to beg for an opportunity or something
like that.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
So it's like you gotta have a balance of both
of them.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
You have to keep your eyes focused on your goals
and where you want to be, but you have to
be conscious of enjoying where you are, or you will
just live life in misery and then look back and like, damn,
why did I even do all this?
Speaker 5 (26:48):
I didn't enjoy it, I.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Will say that I haven't enjoyed it. I guess I
would just say I'm hyper focused on the next, like
what's next, as opposed to because I I said, I wonder,
I ask myself if if not, then then do we
just stall out in one place? And then and then
I didn't reach my full potential or we didn't as
(27:10):
a team or whatever, And then you could ask, well,
what's enough? What is that? And I don't know the answer.
I don't know because I feel like if I could
tell you definitively, if I can get to ten years
and we do this, and we do that, and I
make this much money, then I'm done. Well, then I'm done, right,
And then it's like, well that I don't I don't
necessarily want to look at it that way, because someday
will be done or I will before you, guys, and
(27:34):
that I hope I'm ready for that, because I'm watching
a lot of guys and it's this is nothing new.
They're not ready for that because this has become everything
they are, and I think it's a lot of who
I am.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
You know, what happens when they're like one day they're
gonna say hey, dude, it's over, and like, am I am?
I cool with that? But you know what I mean?
And so I guess I until that day. I hope
that I hope in some ways, I hope it's not
good enough.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Yeah, I don't think you should ever feel like, oh
this is good enough. I'm said, I don't need to
do anything. Maybe your goals shift, maybe you learn that, Okay,
I have earned the right to, you know, do X,
Y or Z in my career.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I don't need to do certain things anymore.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
But I don't think you should ever feel like, okay,
good I can just chill, I can coast, because that
means you don't you don't care, right, Yeah, yeah, so
I think I think you're doing well.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
What do you what do you got going on this week?
This weekend? I yeah, I take it one day at
a time.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I mean, would you do you guys all take your
own advice though? I mean, would you say that you're
all just I know the answer though, like none of
you guys are just content and like what's right in
front of you?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Like, so, I don't know. I think I don't know.
It's it's not a lack of enjoyment.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
It's just.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I don't know when I'm just gonna say like this this,
I'm gonna do my best and whatever the outcome is
will make me happy. Like I don't I guess I've
never looked at it that way. Yeah, And and everything
seems to be a stepping stone to the next thing,
you know, because I don't want us to get you know, Okay,
so we got here, now we have to stay here.
And then they put us on other radio stations in other cities. Well,
(29:11):
we don't have enough. We don't have enough, right, we
only have five? Why don't we have fifty? Yeah, you
know what I mean. And it's like and when we someday,
I think we'll get to fifty, and I'm not.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
We only had one at one point, but I.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Forgot about that. That's that's all.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
That you know, we're on in multi like I know
someone in Florida who got a rental car and we
were on in that station.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Like for me, you have to like have those moments.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
No, you're right, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I was like, what, I don't feel like we have
sell And again this says all self serving.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
This this this conversation we're having.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Here, but this is real.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
But it's like, I don't know, we.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
We we don't really celebrate.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
We haven't really celebrated things that happening here, and because
it's other things have overshadowed it.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
But I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I'm great, I'm I'm I guess it's it's gratitude. But also,
you know, each step that we take, wich big step
we take, seems to take us to the bottom of
the next level. You know. It's like when they when
they say, hey, we're gonna well it's true and that
will never change, but it's like hey, when hey, we're
going to put you on some stations, okay, but hey,
now we're now we're in this big arena with all
(30:13):
the big all the biggest players in the business, and
we are at the very bottom right So now all
I can think about is how do we get to
the top, Because sure, that's good for legacy, but it's
good for all of our earning potential and and really
the biggest thing is for the security of the show.
Unfortunately being you know, doing well in one city is
(30:34):
just not good enough anymore. You have to do well
in twenty or thirty or forty. That's just that's just
what it takes to survive. And I you know, I
don't know. I think a lot of people think they understand.
I've learned this year that a lot of people are
certainly understand how this business works, and they clearly have
no fucking clue because it's a lot of things that
you're not thinking about, and a lot of things happen
(30:56):
that people haven't considered, and you know, sort of the
business of it, and a lot of things. So I
guess it's just not it's not as simple as well
I like you, or I like the show, or I
like this.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well that's wonderful. I'm glad you do. We need you.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But I think in order for us to do this
for other ten years, we need we need more. And
and so this is here we go, like I'm going
down this rabbit hole of of of things that are
not necessarily bringing me joy. But if you don't consider them,
then I guess you don't grow. And if you don't grow,
then I think you don't maybe stand much of a chance.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
See, I managed to take all the fucking fun out
of it.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
I think it's you got to have a balance of both,
and it's easier said than done, for sure. But people
because people will put pressure on you too, like you know,
like I it's my second year of being on the
radio for like in a full time position.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
But people are like, you should have this, and you should.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You can't.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Do you understand that I was just putting commercials on
the schedule like a couple of days ago. You know,
it's just like you have to you have to put
it in perspective for yourself because outside pressure will tell
you that you are not.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
They will never say you're doing enough. Ever.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I had a Boston TV tell me once, once you
get once one of my people get spotted in the
grocery store, I've lost them. And I know what he means,
because it's like every I mean, I've used the example
of my mom, and my mom knows this business.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I mean, she grew up in it.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
And but like everyone's got the friend or the husband
or the wife or the partner or the mom or
the sister who's every day telling him you're the best
part of that show. You're the best part of that show.
You know, that show is fucked without you, And I
don't know why aren't they paying you a million dollars
and you should have a TV show and and your
name should be on it, and you should do this,
(32:42):
and those people can't. I'm sure that they permeate into
all of our minds. Right, But like my mom insists,
I have no idea why I don't pay you like Seacrest,
I have no idea why you don't holst Wheel four.
I know why because he's better than I am at
a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
No, no, no, no, I mean.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Journey that's all.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
No journeyed period. I don't know that. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
He's better at a lot of things. Whatever it is.
He's also in a different it's just different. It's a
different world. It's a different thing. Yeah, and and and
it's just I appreciate that you feel that way, mom,
but like I have to block that out because it's
not real, you know what I mean, Like if I
mean well, right.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
I mean, well say it, but it's like if you
applied that pressure it to your Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And we all know these people.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
And unfortunately, sometimes that does permeate into people and they
get ahead of themselves and then they decide things that
aren't based on reality and aren't based on what's really
happening in the business and the way that things really work,
and they make poor decisions and they pay for it.
And I think it's one of those things where I
haven't always I have certainly not always made the right decisions,
(33:53):
but I do have to be careful of who influences,
you know, who I trust and whose opinions matter, and
who's giving me the real you know what I mean, Like, Hey,
here's a realistic place where you could be and it's
more than what you have. But it's not that, yep,
because if you or the person who's like, oh, that
place would be fuck without you. I'll tell you right now,
they wouldn't be Like they'd figure it out, everybody. I'll
(34:17):
tell you right now, Like it might be a little
rocky for a minute, but they'd figure it out. And
I'd figure it out. But I don't for one second
believe that if if the you know whatever station without
Fred is no, I don't know again, would it make
it things uncomfortable? Would it make things difficult?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Maybe? Maybe? Maybe not?
Speaker 3 (34:40):
You know, I mean, I've seen that move too, where
people are like, nah, fuck that place, I'm gonna go
to the other I'm gonna go to the competition and
I'll show them and and they I can tell you
tails so old as time. I can think of several
examples of people who were like, fuck you, I'm crossing
the street and I'm gonna beat you on the other station.
And they're never heard from again because because you haven't
(35:01):
considered the fact that there are other people that people
like that, maybe you left behind that people are lazy.
People are so lazy they won't even push the other button,
you know what I mean. Like people, it's just there
are so many factors, and I see it all the time. Well,
you know, this place will watch this, this place will
melt without me.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
You better be you better be absolutely certain of that,
because I don't think that's true for almost anybody.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
You just can't believe your own hype. But I think
it's important to have goals, but I think it's even
more important to enjoy your journey and your journey.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
And now, look, you can't look at keep.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Your eyes on your own paper, like you cannot look
at everybody's journey and compare it to yours.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It's hard to do. It's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
People are like, uh, I do get pretty regularly, Like
you know, you're too hard on yourself, Like you really
beat yourself up on the air. I'm like, no, no, no,
I believe I'm a piece of shit, Like no, no, no,
that's real, Like no, no, no, that's that's the self deprecation.
Is what's actually happening in most of our heads on it,
Like that's who we really are, Like it's not an act.
Like I don't think any of us, actually, I think
(36:05):
a lot of us have in BOSC syndrome. I think
a lot of us are just happy to be here.
I think a lot of us don't believe that we're
the best at it. I think sometimes I wake up
and go, why does anybody give a shit? I mean,
it's real, It's absolutely real, and so maybe maybe it's
not as maybe I should be less of that because
maybe it's not that appealing to listen to. But I
don't know's it's what's really happening in my head. Oh,
(36:27):
it's not a game. It's not an act.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Excellent job, guys. You guys could hear here's the thing.
This doesn't work out, you guys could all be radio
DJs on the New ninety six to seven Kiss FM
all of Austin. We'd have to work on the tag
a little bit. We'd have to work on the slim
on the positioning site, but we'd have to make sure
we knew where we were. Yes, we'd have to make
sure that that part. Oh god, I used to do
that back in the day. I used to do like
(36:50):
six shows a day. This is this is when I
guess we don't really do it quite like this anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
But like I did. What was I Austin.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I lived in Austin, I was on San Antonio, I
was on in Salt Lake City, I was on in Eugene, Oregon,
And a couple of them were at the same time,
and so and I would try and do them like
kind of real time, but like it was only Austin
was live.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
The rest were recorded.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
But I would try and do a kind of real
time so that like it was sort of as close
to live as possible. And more than once I would
fuck up and I'd be on the wrong page of
the computer and I'd be going one oh four point
seven k dock Eugene's number one hit music station. And
the guys, luckily somebody in San Antonio. They were like
you know, before it aired, they were like, dude, you're
(37:36):
saying Eugene's hit this is makes ninety six. So I'm like,
fuck because the screen looks the same no matter. Like
I can look at it right now and it's like
it looks exactly the same no matter what I click on,
Like right now, I could be in Greensboro or fucking
Baltimore or whatever, and like it doesn't look any different.
So more than once I did that, And I don't
think it ever aired like that, but it probably did somewhere,
(37:58):
is it though? People driving down the road in Winchester,
Virginia going what is this guy talking about San Antonio for? Like,
oh yeah, oh God, If I had a dollar, we
should get Mick Lee in here one day to tell
us his story. Mick Lee is one of our colleagues.
Maybe he'll come on the Tangent one day. You want
(38:19):
to talk about a guy who he almost lost his
whole career over something just like that. He was he
was dicking around and recording something, and I'll let him
tell the story. But he he basically was screwing around
and something air that wasn't supposed to air. That he
was messing around on and he said something very bad
on the air.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Mick Lee, he's like the most perfect person.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, yeah, he said something very bad and and he
was terminated. And there for a minute there it was like,
will he ever get rehired for that? Because I think
he said fuck on the air, but like he didn't
mean to. It was like an it was like an outtake.
But which is why I don't know why I'm doing
it now because very I think it happened to me.
But but yeah, and then yeah, he was fired, and
(39:03):
it was like, well, he said something that was like FCC,
he could have gotten find a lot of money for that,
So will he ever get rehired? And then eventually he
did and uh and then he you know, he's here
working with us now.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
But Mickley, of all people, I would have never guessed
that we should have him come tell this.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
It's pretty good story. Yeah, and he obviously tells it
the best because it happened to him. But anyway, all right,
so what's the moral of the story. The moral stories
all of you guys could be uh, you know, DJs,
I'm certain of it. I'd listen to it because the
stream of consciousness is way better than any kind of
bulls should I ever came up with It was all like,
you know, it was slick. I'd much try to listen
(39:39):
to what is she gonna what is she trying to say?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
What have we learned? Enjoy the journey, Yes, but try
and be present.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
And don't compare.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
But then, but don't be too present because if you're
too present, then you might fuck up the future. Anyway,
there's the tangents have of the day.
Do you really think the band is called Seether.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
See thirt Seether, It's Seether.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I'll let Seither know that it's it's it's Seether.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's all right, let's see the tangent.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
It's the tangent giving you all this ship we couldn't
talk about on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Man, I don't know we should do this Seither. The
last time I played Seather, that was a mid two
thousand stract too, that we were banging on the new
ninety six to seven Kiss FM. All of Austin's hit music,
not just some of it, which one because broka, how
many seconds of songs can I play in a podcast
before we get nailed?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I think immediately, why are.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
You looking at me? Because you know you know I
break the rules?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Well, because I want to play a little bit of it.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
The specifically said the throwback throw down. This is different.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh right, let's see here I'm going to the problem.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Is I don't think it is, but I don't think
it is. Jason to be the police, not me.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Hey, I just want to hear see thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh we do have it.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
The thing is the intro is like forty seconds longer.
I would say, like I want to hear you post it.
I want to hear you talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, need you to know.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
The way you Okay, alright, alright, so nainety six to
seven Kiss FM all of Austin's hit music, not just
some of it. Jason Brown, Yeah, the new Natty going
right now. Fuck, I want to I want to hear
you be DJ guys.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, okay, because I used.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
To do this and thank God that there is no
remaining evidence of that time of my life. And I
did think about it the other day when they when
I was going through my house and organizing it or
I didn't do it, someone did it for me, but
they found an iPod like the original iPod, and I
was like that, I don't want this, I don't need it.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's not worth anything. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I realized probably on that iPod would have been everything
from my iTunes, which would have included some audio of
Brother Fred, the Nighttime DJ, I Need the doing Austin's
Most Wanted count down, the songs number five, the number
one and you can tell me all you would a
pizza at the end of it, and what else did
(02:14):
we do? Hot girl check in the sundown survey. It
was like, oh God, this ship was so bad. It worked,
but it was it was what was the sundown survey
right at six when I would go on six pm?
It was you know, it was just a stat It
was like eighty one percent of women consumer this every
year that and people would call in and they would guess,
(02:36):
got it. What really fucking sucked is when somebody would
guess right the first call when everything was recorded that
like I played all those songs off the box, bro,
but like off the machine that we recorded. We don't
do that anymore because all the calls we take now
are live. But no, but somebody would call and they
would say it like it was really easy, and then
I had to string it out for twenty minutes somehow, you.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Know, Oh yeah, stretch, you're right?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So I had, yeah, that's funny, Yeah all right you ready?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I forgot the name of the station, but I
got it.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Then kiss FM.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Okay, all of Austin's hit music, not just some of it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'm gonna try to Okay, here we get ready.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
It's the new ninety sixth seven Kiss Up, Austin's number
one for music, not just some of it. This is
Jason Brown and you don't see there. I sat on
his face once his ears broken with Amy Lee.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Pretty good. I wanted you to know that was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
The story better than my current weekend show.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I would listen to that.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I would who said on Who's face?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Okay, I'm going to give you another one from the
same Are you ready? I'll tell you what it is
and let me see if I can tell you how
long the intro is.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I don't know. If I know, it's like ten seconds.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's the whole tag.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And I know that was part of the problem. That
is part of the fucking morons that came up with that.
I'm like, dude, it's that's.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
All I'm gonna say, right, Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Ryan Cabrera on the Way Down, all right, these are
all songs from this era, okay, and don't worry, everyone's
going to get a turn.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's sweating, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, okay, the.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
New ninety six seven kiss up for music, not just
some of it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Ryan Cabrera and they had Sex.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
With Us said, here's the song when I was.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Straight with my girlfriend All the way down.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I had a couple more seconds.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You're close.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Here's the song, Yeah, when I was straight.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Memoir for me it's the desperation. It's like it's like
you're being a hostage.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
And if you don't, yeah, right, right right, let me
think of another one from wait what is it?
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Because you're confusing the the ninety seven Kiss, the.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
New ninety six seven Kiss FM, all of Austin's hit music,
not just some of it. You want to do seventeen
seconds Okay, baby Bash and Frankie Jy Sugar Sugar, Oh
yeah with Jason just said so he said, thank my girl.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
When I when I.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Was trying, sick and tired, right right right, fucking guy
Brian Cabrera, he's friends with a friend of mine, and
uh yeah, well, I you know what's funny is I
did ask. I said, hey, can you do you think
you give us a deal? It liked on like a
(05:47):
you know, Tangent Live or something like you think he'd
do it for it? And it was like, oh, yeah,
he'd do it, Like really, I think he'd be happy
to do it. No, I was talking. We had I've
told this story. I only have five stories, but I
we have when in the height of it all, the
height of it all, we had him play a show
a little like of showcasing and so he was like
(06:09):
in the back and it was a hard rock cafe
in Austin.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I think it's gone. But he was at a table
and it.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Was all courtoned off and his management and security or whatever,
and all these listeners were there and he was eating
and I'm talking to the hottest girl and bald head
management guy comes over and says to her, excuse me,
Ryan Cabrera would like to see you at the table.
And she's like, cool, bye, and walk your ass.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Away from me.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
You know, twenty minutes later at the back in a hotel,
It's like okay. But I always thought he was a
big pussy for that, because it's like, dude, you walk
over like you're doing yourself, and he was like ten
feet away.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It wasn't like he couldn't.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Was he smiling like when you guys come and.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So yeah, I was like st our friend Billy to kid,
I'm like, they like hang out. I'm like, Billy, tell
him he's a fucking dick. I'll never forgive him for it,
But will he play a show for us? Because I
think people would like it. Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I never did this? Okay, you got this.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You got it?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
This was never Okay, no, you never know. You never
had to jock it up, right, you never had to
be a DJ.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
No, I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I regret that for you.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
You never had to be a lot of things, right
LFE Right.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I regret this tangent that I said I wanted to do,
and that's the thing I did offer. I said tangent.
No tangent. You said, oh I got time for for
the thirteen ok And I wasn't even intending to do this,
but whatever, Okay, So I want you to bring yourself
back to this place because you got seventeen seconds.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So that's a long end.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
That's a lot, Okay, I know you're asking a lot, Okay, Okay,
all right, the new ninety six to seven Kiss FM
all of Austin's hits, not just some of it. I
am kbabay and believe it or not, in the future,
my friend and coworker will be in talks with one
of these artists to have the matter wedding. The rider
and cost was too high. Anyways, this is shot, said
(07:56):
the baby dash and Franky j.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Ever.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
You to get yourself a weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
What are you doing this weekend? Turn it out?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm literally shaking like I don't like these exercises. I'm
spot I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Good. Let me think of some other bullshit we were
playing back then.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
I had to have that tag typed out in front
of me at all time.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I did.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
I did take the name of the station because you
were like ninety seven four five six some.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Hits music today?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Do we not?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
You can't have you know, some Rob Thomas in Santana's
Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
A hot one.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Wait, we never played that?
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Is that band?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, it's Nickelback.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It's no, it's not it's no, it's it's Rob Thomas
in Santana.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Oh smooth?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
What am I thinking of your thinking of?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Why don't you and I that's that check? Is that
Chack Kruger?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I don't think it is. Hold on, I don't know.
I only look this up.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
What about three Am?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That was a fucking that was before my time?
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Thankfully her Diamonds when you went solo.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Yeah, it's Santana and Chad Krueger it is. Yeah, yeah,
I don't just listen to it. Definitely know Chad Kroger's.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Time. I thought it would Jesus all right, do we
have that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
From the album Shaman?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Do we not even have we don't even have that?
What kind of we have like a like an old
person station here, what kind of right?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
No, they just they're playing our stuff now.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Sounds like a great strategy, makes perfect sense. Let me
think another song from that. Let me look it up.
Let me look it was two thousand, I'm gonna look
that up, two thousand, let's say two thousand and.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Five, one looking up, three doors down.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Okay, I'm gonna give you. I got one.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
This was, uh, this was this is I don't know
if it still is, but for a while, this was
the most pop, like, the most the most played pop.
I could spit it out, the most played pop song ever.
And I'll never forget I heard it. I was sitting
with dipshit boss at the time and the music label
and I heard it and I said that, and I've
(10:22):
been wrong about a lot of songs too, but I
was like, that is a fucking smash and the guy goes,
that is a piece of shit. We will never play
that song. Who and he was my boss more than
once And anyway, this is your Turnkeiki Mariah Carey, we
belong together.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Oh okay.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Now this song has multiple posts. They call it a
post where the song starts. There's a lyric, a couple
of lyrical posts, and then there's the lyrics. I always
just treated the lyrics. I talk all over them, give
a shit. But let me see maybe you've got.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
People would pause for the y Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Well, if you were really good, then you'd like talk
and then pause and then keep going absolutely yeah, And
people this is a skill that people like, how do
you do that? You just after you've heard the song
a number of times and you just sort of know, now,
I guess making it sound kind of rhythmic and making
it sound like you're not a gun isn't.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Held to your head.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's why I struggle off.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, that's the talent.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
And a lot of guys I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm
gonna I'm gonna be a I'm gonna I'm gonna be
that guy. But a lot of DJs these days don't
know how to do that because they never had to
do it. Because they record it, yes, and then they
just slide it over and they make it sound like that.
That's okay because you never had to do it. But
like some of us back in the day had to
actually push the button and do the thing, and so
(11:41):
there was no option to do that, which meant a
lot of songs.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
And you hear it now. I do it sometimes on
our show.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I talk all over the thing because sometimes I get
thrown off and then it's like hey where and then
you know, what they tell you to do in radio
school is just pretend like that never happened and move on.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
But I could never do that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I gotta stop, make a big scene about it and
start over again, which they don't tell you to do
in radio.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Sing went to radio schools. No one day.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I didn't either, but Redular some boss of mind being like,
hey did ship If you fuck up, do not make
a big deal out of it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
No one heard it?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Heard it?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah? Are you ready sure?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
What's the station?
Speaker 7 (12:19):
It's the new ninety six to seven Kiss FM. All
of Austin's hit.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
All of Austin hit music, not just some of it.
All right, Yeah you would you done fucked it up?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Just fire me? There's so much it's words.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Sound well, that's better than my first station, triple the music.
The new Hot one hundred always at least eighteen songs
in a real party station.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Like Triple Dipper.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Right, well, I think I think the strategy there was
just to take all of the different positioning statements so
that nobody could use any of them.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Right, all of Austin's hit music.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah you can. You can choose.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You want to be triple the music and triple the
music the new hot one hundred always at least eighteen
songs in a real party station, rolls off the top.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Let's get this over. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, but you DJ, you do this. Okay, has created
a teleprompter for you. Okay, got you ready? Okay, here
we go.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Don't worry about my other notes one O three five
Kids FM, Chicago's number one hit music station.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Mariah, shut up, it is.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Not the little one.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
You love somebody don't love them chall single out here
in these streets, okay, because you could just be stuck
and not even able to move like Mariah. But here
she goes, let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
To that, let's go, here she goes. I love it.
I would listen to that.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Here she goes and with those notes, non moving out.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But we love you, Maria, all right, I give you
one ready.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
I'm so rusty.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Stop hurting us.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
This is a long one, Mario. Let me love you this.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I love like the deep thought everyone goes into it
these things is like yes, anyway you ready?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah? Okay? Is this exciting?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
How many seconds?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I'm gonna say you got twenty seconds on this? I
don't know that for.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Ail twenty so it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Just feel it out, just a freestyler.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, okay, you ready?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
It's one of three five kiss that fam. Actually it's not.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's nine six seven of Austin's music.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Many.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
We're in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
I'm not really sure what the sin we're in. Listen right,
If only you knew that you'd be on tour.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
For a throwback kind of thing going on with me
and my girls attending.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
You know what I'm saying, I might just throw it
back from you. Here we go, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Here we go. Oh yeah, but your career would take
you'd be off. I still where did we go? I'm
in went station?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Guy said we.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Were in Dallas. Maybe we're awesome.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
No, that's how I'd be on the weekends for you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But it sounds like no.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Nine six seven.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I mean, honestly, none of you. I would listen to
all of that. I would listen to all of that.
It's an actually excellent work. Only for the sake of this,
I wish I had like a little clip of just
how I was terrible. Oh my god, I was a screamer. Oh,
we were all trying to sound like that. It was
(15:33):
all like you were yelling and that was probably the
hot ness.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Right, Yeah, what's your name? And like, you know, Cynthia City.
Where are you calling from from San Marcos?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
What are you doing to my girl? I know, we're
just driving Aroundison in the.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Radio and I and then I would say to them,
because of course it's recorded, I'd say, tell him you
want to hear Kelly Clarkson, since you've been gone, I.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Want to kind of collocs sent you been gone, you
got to kiss? And then I take that part out.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, and then boom done break radio gold all the
way to the top. Well you keep on screaming, yeah somewhere. No,
it all worked out when I stopped doing that.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
So someone sent me.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
An entertainment report I did on the show I was
on before this when I was filling in, and I
have not opened it, Like, I will not listen to it.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I refuse I bet it was good.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
No, I was I was asked. I was shipped from
a bus.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
It's so cringey to hear yourself, even like a year
like when I listened to like a year ago or
two years, I'm.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Not you currently, Like I can't listen, Like I cannot.
I hate the sound of my voice. I cannot listen.
I will turn anything down that I'm on, Like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So serious, I hate it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I don't want to listen to the early days
of this show.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I don't. It couldn't have been good. I don't know
if I want to listen. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Even during the pandemic when we're like, what is this ship?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know? Last? Yeah, little did we know? Oh I know?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Do you remember that in the pandemic when it was
like it's like March and people are like this might
go through the summer and we're.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Like through the summer, Like, excuse you?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Three years later, oh man, the pandemic they were talking
about we started the show like at eight because nobody
was awake. We went like eight to noon or something,
and then there was talk that we would never go
like they were I remember I was in a meeting
where they were like the listening will never go there
will never be drive time ever again. They were like
(17:34):
no one will ever listen to the radio. Six like
we will never start at five am ever again. And
I was like this is incredible.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
And then they kept like moving us back an hour,
like Okay, you'll have to come in at seven.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Okay, six were like no.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Then my favorite was they were like one guy in
management was like, well you could do like so and
so and everybody else starts at five and then you
come in fred at eight. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's
gonna go over where. Yeah, they'll love me. Yeah that's cool. Yeah,
what a great idea for team unity. Yeah, you guys,
you get up at four and I'll roll in later.
And what's funny is there are people to do that
(18:10):
and I don't know, I'm not better than them, but
I couldn't do that. Like I don't know, I'm a dick,
but I'm not that big of a dick. Like that's terrible.
If you guys got to be here at that time,
then we all got to be here. That's the way
we're doing this. We're all in and we're all out.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
I guess we wouldn't even trust us to be here
without like, what are we going to say, like he's
getting up in an hour.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I don't know. I don't Maybe it would be better,
It might be better. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I don't know what they I don't know what they
thought we were going to do, like okay, Like I
think they thought maybe we would like we'd record ahead
or something.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I don't know what they thought we were gonna do.
I'm like, dude, that's now.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
No, no, don't.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
No, no.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But that was I'm like, oh, great, I'll all run
that by the team and we'll take a vote on that.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Done it.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I get up at seven fifteen the rest of no,
come on. But then someone actually suggested that to me,
and I was like, uh, first way to lose the
room would be to pull some shit like that.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, those were the days, man, I don't know. Do
you ever think about that though? Like I was talking
to my therapist about this, I'm very grateful that we've
had success here. It's taken a very long time to
build and you know, when we started, we were this
show fifteen years ago was sixteenth place, and the thought
of it ever being top ten or even number one
(19:31):
was like truly so far away that I didn't even
think it was possible. And of course, you know, like
any great company, they moved the they moved the goalpost constantly.
You know. When I got here, it was if you
can do this, then you're then that's all we need
from you. And then we did that, and it was like, okay,
but now if you can do this, if you can
just get us top five, that's all we need. That's
all we need, and and you're gonna be set for
(19:53):
your whole life.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
We did that, and then it was, well, now I
got it's got me number one. It has to me
number one, And if you can do that, then you
guys are all all gonna be set for life. And
then we did that, and it was like, oh, you
gotta be wonder than that. That that's all you got.
You're just one by like a little bit. Oh no,
you gotta be one by a lot man. But it's
like when I was driving to work in my little
nineteen ninety six Ford Mustang in Austin, making twenty six
(20:17):
thousand dollars a year, I had I had nothing to lose,
Like I don't know, I had no money. I thought
I had a lot of money because you know, you
graduate college and you really have no money, and then
someone's gonna pay you a couple grand a month to
talk on the radio. And then I did like nightclub
gigs that were two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I was like, what on earth? I can go to
the mall.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I'm like, go and abercromb and buy stuff and that's
gonna happen. I don't know, but I'm not gonna say
I was happier then because all I wanted was the
chance to be this then. But like there, I don't know,
there was a there was a freeness to it all,
Like it's like that nobody gave a shit, you know
what I mean. It was like you, if you do well, great,
(20:55):
if you don't, nobody seemed to care, and so it
was you were just doing it like because you loved it.
And I wouldn't say it's not still that way. But
when you get and I'm not complaining about our success,
but when you get to a certain point, then it's
like if you're not that, then all of a sudden,
your dog shit. And it's like, I mean, obviously we
always want to be number one all the time, but
(21:16):
like now that's the expectation. So if we don't do it,
it's like it's crushing.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
The pressure and the pressure is getting worse.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And it's worth it's worth it, right, But at the
same again, not complaining that we've done well, but I
don't know there was I guess I wish I knew
then what would happen eventually, so I could have The
point I'm making is not, oh my god, the burden
of doing well. No, we do well because you guys
listen and support us, and that's the only reason. But
(21:46):
I wish, I wish I could have known at twenty
two years old in Austin, Texas, like, soak this up
and enjoy every second of it because you will get
where you want to go someday while still enjoying this
and understanding and appreciating each step of the way. I
don't think I've under I don't think I've appreciated any
step of the way, because every step was to get
(22:06):
to this point, and now we're at this point, and
now all I'm trying to do is stay there. Right,
So it was like Austin was not good enough because
I wanted to be in Dallas, and then Dallas wasn't
good enough because I wanted to be doing mornings and
I wanted to be doing whatever, And then it was
Charlotte wasn't good enough because I wanted to be in Chicago,
and then Chicago wasn't good enough because weren't number one,
(22:27):
and then we get to number one, and now he
has to be number one every time, so it's not
good enough, and so now we have to do it
for how long? And my therapist asked, like, at what
point have you proven yourself? At what point is it enough?
And I can't answer the question. Is it a year
of is it two years, is it five years? Is
it ten years? Like how long do you have to
compete and do well? Before it's like I don't it
doesn't matter what happens anymore because I've proven my point.
(22:50):
And then at what point do you say I've proven
my point? And then it's like I probably shouldn't do
it anymore because I don't. I'm not gonna say I
don't care, but like maybe I've given up on the quest,
because that's my argument is if I'm not if I
don't open the ratings every Friday with misery, praying that
we're at the top, then should I stop doing it?
(23:11):
Like if I don't care, if I don't feel that
men like it's I they don't want me to see
the ratings right like they actually physically have tried in
various ways to prevent me from looking at the ratings,
even though that's how they hold us accountable. They claim
that I'm a crazy person and that it affects my mood,
and they're right, But I found a back doorway. I
have a source who sends me the ratings and they
(23:32):
come in almost every Friday, and I wake up from
my nap on Friday and I see the email and
there's a pit in my stomach every week and I
slowly open them and I'm like it, is this gonna
be good? Is this going to fuck up my weekend?
And I can tell you right now, my entire weekend
it's predicated on what that thing says. And at what
point does it not matter anymore?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Like, well, it doesn't matter what that says because you've
done what we have done collectively, what we said out
to do. And if at some point I don't care anymore,
I don't open it. I don't feel anything than chy.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
Quit It's good to care like I think you should care.
I think that's why you've gotten to where you are.
I also think it's like you hear this all the time,
Like you know, a lot of people believe, once I
get here, once I have this much money, once I
am famous, once I am this or whatever, you're still
looking in the mirror, and if things are not right
with yourself, you know, then it doesn't feel any different.
(24:22):
So I think it's just we all have to remember
that it's not when I get to X, Y or z.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
I think happiness is an emotion. It's not a goal.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
So it's a feeling. Sometimes we feel it, sometimes we don't.
But I think it's important to remember to like really
live in the moment.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
You know, Yeah, you have to enjoy the journey, and
wherever you are in the journey, you should like be
enjoying that. And sometimes we don't look back at everything
we've like accomplished to get to where we are now
because we live in a society and we work in
an industry.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
It's very much what have you done for me today?
Speaker 8 (24:53):
They don't give a damn about your success yesterday, care.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
About what you have done today.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
But you as a as a human as the person
you have to be able to like in those in
those times of where the ratings might not be in
our favor, remember where you were, Remember all that you've done,
how successful you've been, and that should be a reminder
that you'll it'll happen again, and like you should just
enjoy where you are at the moment because.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well, and I know you're right, but like, and everybody
in this room has a special story, genuinely, but I'll
just use you since you just said that, Like, if
you had said that your goal was to get on
the radio, you got on the radio. If you had
just said, I'm going to soak this up and enjoy this.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I'm on the radio.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's what I set out to do, Well, then you
wouldn't be sitting here because it was seven years removed
from walking in the door to being on the on
the number one and contributing to and helping make the
number one morning show. Like, but so you could say, like,
well I did it, and so I should be happy
and enjoy this and then whatever happens happens. But I
doubt that's the way that you looked at it.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
But it kind of is the way that I looked
at it though, like I I've been able to like
in all my positions that I've worked, I've really worked
hard in that position and tried to be the best
in that position, and doing that opened up new opportunities
for me. So my story and a lot of other
people have to do certain things to get things or
go ask for things. I've been approached for a lot
(26:14):
of the stuff that I've been able to do now
just because of how I treat it where I am now,
you know what I'm saying, Like they were like, you
a damn good commercial scheduler, and you do it with
a lot of joy and passion.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
What else do you want to do?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
And then that opened up the opportunity for me to
say I would like to do X, Y and Z,
versus me having to beg for an opportunity or something
like that.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
So it's like you gotta have a balance of both
of them.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
You have to keep your eyes focused on your goals
and where you want to be, but you have to
be conscious of enjoying where you are, or you will
just live life in misery and then look back and like, damn,
why did I even do all this?
Speaker 5 (26:48):
I didn't enjoy it, I.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Will say that I haven't enjoyed it. I guess I
would just say I'm hyper focused on the next, like
what's next, as opposed to because I I said, I wonder,
I ask myself if if not, then then do we
just stall out in one place? And then and then
I didn't reach my full potential or we didn't as
(27:10):
a team or whatever, And then you could ask, well,
what's enough? What is that? And I don't know the answer.
I don't know because I feel like if I could
tell you definitively, if I can get to ten years
and we do this, and we do that, and I
make this much money, then I'm done. Well, then I'm done, right,
And then it's like, well that I don't I don't
necessarily want to look at it that way, because someday
will be done or I will before you, guys, and
(27:34):
that I hope I'm ready for that, because I'm watching
a lot of guys and it's this is nothing new.
They're not ready for that because this has become everything
they are, and I think it's a lot of who
I am.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
You know, what happens when they're like one day they're
gonna say hey, dude, it's over, and like, am I am?
I cool with that? But you know what I mean?
And so I guess I until that day. I hope
that I hope in some ways, I hope it's not
good enough.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Yeah, I don't think you should ever feel like, oh
this is good enough. I'm said, I don't need to
do anything. Maybe your goals shift, maybe you learn that, Okay,
I have earned the right to, you know, do X,
Y or Z in my career.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I don't need to do certain things anymore.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
But I don't think you should ever feel like, okay,
good I can just chill, I can coast, because that
means you don't you don't care, right, Yeah, yeah, so
I think I think you're doing well.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
What do you what do you got going on this week?
This weekend? I yeah, I take it one day at
a time.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I mean, would you do you guys all take your
own advice though? I mean, would you say that you're
all just I know the answer though, like none of
you guys are just content and like what's right in
front of you?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Like, so, I don't know. I think I don't know.
It's it's not a lack of enjoyment.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
It's just.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I don't know when I'm just gonna say like this this,
I'm gonna do my best and whatever the outcome is
will make me happy. Like I don't I guess I've
never looked at it that way. Yeah, And and everything
seems to be a stepping stone to the next thing,
you know, because I don't want us to get you know, Okay,
so we got here, now we have to stay here.
And then they put us on other radio stations in other cities. Well,
(29:11):
we don't have enough. We don't have enough, right, we
only have five? Why don't we have fifty? Yeah, you
know what I mean. And it's like and when we someday,
I think we'll get to fifty, and I'm not.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
We only had one at one point, but I.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Forgot about that. That's that's all.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
That you know, we're on in multi like I know
someone in Florida who got a rental car and we
were on in that station.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Like for me, you have to like have those moments.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
No, you're right, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I was like, what, I don't feel like we have
sell And again this says all self serving.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
This this this conversation we're having.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Here, but this is real.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
But it's like, I don't know, we.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
We we don't really celebrate.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
We haven't really celebrated things that happening here, and because
it's other things have overshadowed it.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
But I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I'm great, I'm I'm I guess it's it's gratitude. But also,
you know, each step that we take, wich big step
we take, seems to take us to the bottom of
the next level. You know. It's like when they when
they say, hey, we're gonna well it's true and that
will never change, but it's like hey, when hey, we're
going to put you on some stations, okay, but hey,
now we're now we're in this big arena with all
(30:13):
the big all the biggest players in the business, and
we are at the very bottom right So now all
I can think about is how do we get to
the top, Because sure, that's good for legacy, but it's
good for all of our earning potential and and really
the biggest thing is for the security of the show.
Unfortunately being you know, doing well in one city is
(30:34):
just not good enough anymore. You have to do well
in twenty or thirty or forty. That's just that's just
what it takes to survive. And I you know, I
don't know. I think a lot of people think they understand.
I've learned this year that a lot of people are
certainly understand how this business works, and they clearly have
no fucking clue because it's a lot of things that
you're not thinking about, and a lot of things happen
(30:56):
that people haven't considered, and you know, sort of the
business of it, and a lot of things. So I
guess it's just not it's not as simple as well
I like you, or I like the show, or I
like this.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well that's wonderful. I'm glad you do. We need you.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But I think in order for us to do this
for other ten years, we need we need more. And
and so this is here we go, like I'm going
down this rabbit hole of of of things that are
not necessarily bringing me joy. But if you don't consider them,
then I guess you don't grow. And if you don't grow,
then I think you don't maybe stand much of a chance.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
See, I managed to take all the fucking fun out
of it.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
I think it's you got to have a balance of both,
and it's easier said than done, for sure. But people
because people will put pressure on you too, like you know,
like I it's my second year of being on the
radio for like in a full time position.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
But people are like, you should have this, and you should.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You can't.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Do you understand that I was just putting commercials on
the schedule like a couple of days ago. You know,
it's just like you have to you have to put
it in perspective for yourself because outside pressure will tell
you that you are not.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
They will never say you're doing enough. Ever.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I had a Boston TV tell me once, once you
get once one of my people get spotted in the
grocery store, I've lost them. And I know what he means,
because it's like every I mean, I've used the example
of my mom, and my mom knows this business.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I mean, she grew up in it.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
And but like everyone's got the friend or the husband
or the wife or the partner or the mom or
the sister who's every day telling him you're the best
part of that show. You're the best part of that show.
You know, that show is fucked without you, And I
don't know why aren't they paying you a million dollars
and you should have a TV show and and your
name should be on it, and you should do this,
(32:42):
and those people can't. I'm sure that they permeate into
all of our minds. Right, But like my mom insists,
I have no idea why I don't pay you like Seacrest,
I have no idea why you don't holst Wheel four.
I know why because he's better than I am at
a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
No, no, no, no, I mean.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Journey that's all.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
No journeyed period. I don't know that. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
He's better at a lot of things. Whatever it is.
He's also in a different it's just different. It's a
different world. It's a different thing. Yeah, and and and
it's just I appreciate that you feel that way, mom,
but like I have to block that out because it's
not real, you know what I mean, Like if I
mean well, right.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
I mean, well say it, but it's like if you
applied that pressure it to your Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And we all know these people.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
And unfortunately, sometimes that does permeate into people and they
get ahead of themselves and then they decide things that
aren't based on reality and aren't based on what's really
happening in the business and the way that things really work,
and they make poor decisions and they pay for it.
And I think it's one of those things where I
haven't always I have certainly not always made the right decisions,
(33:53):
but I do have to be careful of who influences,
you know, who I trust and whose opinions matter, and
who's giving me the real you know what I mean, Like, Hey,
here's a realistic place where you could be and it's
more than what you have. But it's not that, yep,
because if you or the person who's like, oh, that
place would be fuck without you. I'll tell you right now,
they wouldn't be Like they'd figure it out, everybody. I'll
(34:17):
tell you right now, Like it might be a little
rocky for a minute, but they'd figure it out. And
I'd figure it out. But I don't for one second
believe that if if the you know whatever station without
Fred is no, I don't know again, would it make
it things uncomfortable? Would it make things difficult?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Maybe? Maybe? Maybe not?
Speaker 3 (34:40):
You know, I mean, I've seen that move too, where
people are like, nah, fuck that place, I'm gonna go
to the other I'm gonna go to the competition and
I'll show them and and they I can tell you
tails so old as time. I can think of several
examples of people who were like, fuck you, I'm crossing
the street and I'm gonna beat you on the other station.
And they're never heard from again because because you haven't
(35:01):
considered the fact that there are other people that people
like that, maybe you left behind that people are lazy.
People are so lazy they won't even push the other button,
you know what I mean. Like people, it's just there
are so many factors, and I see it all the time. Well,
you know, this place will watch this, this place will
melt without me.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
You better be you better be absolutely certain of that,
because I don't think that's true for almost anybody.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
You just can't believe your own hype. But I think
it's important to have goals, but I think it's even
more important to enjoy your journey and your journey.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
And now, look, you can't look at keep.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Your eyes on your own paper, like you cannot look
at everybody's journey and compare it to yours.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It's hard to do. It's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
People are like, uh, I do get pretty regularly, Like
you know, you're too hard on yourself, Like you really
beat yourself up on the air. I'm like, no, no, no,
I believe I'm a piece of shit, Like no, no, no,
that's real, Like no, no, no, that's that's the self deprecation.
Is what's actually happening in most of our heads on it,
Like that's who we really are, Like it's not an act.
Like I don't think any of us, actually, I think
(36:05):
a lot of us have in BOSC syndrome. I think
a lot of us are just happy to be here.
I think a lot of us don't believe that we're
the best at it. I think sometimes I wake up
and go, why does anybody give a shit? I mean,
it's real, It's absolutely real, and so maybe maybe it's
not as maybe I should be less of that because
maybe it's not that appealing to listen to. But I
don't know's it's what's really happening in my head. Oh,
(36:27):
it's not a game. It's not an act.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Excellent job, guys. You guys could hear here's the thing.
This doesn't work out, you guys could all be radio
DJs on the New ninety six to seven Kiss FM
all of Austin. We'd have to work on the tag
a little bit. We'd have to work on the slim
on the positioning site, but we'd have to make sure
we knew where we were. Yes, we'd have to make
sure that that part. Oh god, I used to do
that back in the day. I used to do like
(36:50):
six shows a day. This is this is when I
guess we don't really do it quite like this anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
But like I did. What was I Austin.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I lived in Austin, I was on San Antonio, I
was on in Salt Lake City, I was on in Eugene, Oregon,
And a couple of them were at the same time,
and so and I would try and do them like
kind of real time, but like it was only Austin
was live.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
The rest were recorded.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
But I would try and do a kind of real
time so that like it was sort of as close
to live as possible. And more than once I would
fuck up and I'd be on the wrong page of
the computer and I'd be going one oh four point
seven k dock Eugene's number one hit music station. And
the guys, luckily somebody in San Antonio. They were like
you know, before it aired, they were like, dude, you're
(37:36):
saying Eugene's hit this is makes ninety six. So I'm like,
fuck because the screen looks the same no matter. Like
I can look at it right now and it's like
it looks exactly the same no matter what I click on,
Like right now, I could be in Greensboro or fucking
Baltimore or whatever, and like it doesn't look any different.
So more than once I did that, And I don't
think it ever aired like that, but it probably did somewhere,
(37:58):
is it though? People driving down the road in Winchester,
Virginia going what is this guy talking about San Antonio for? Like,
oh yeah, oh God, If I had a dollar, we
should get Mick Lee in here one day to tell
us his story. Mick Lee is one of our colleagues.
Maybe he'll come on the Tangent one day. You want
(38:19):
to talk about a guy who he almost lost his
whole career over something just like that. He was he
was dicking around and recording something, and I'll let him
tell the story. But he he basically was screwing around
and something air that wasn't supposed to air. That he
was messing around on and he said something very bad
on the air.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Mick Lee, he's like the most perfect person.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, yeah, he said something very bad and and he
was terminated. And there for a minute there it was like,
will he ever get rehired for that? Because I think
he said fuck on the air, but like he didn't
mean to. It was like an it was like an outtake.
But which is why I don't know why I'm doing
it now because very I think it happened to me.
But but yeah, and then yeah, he was fired, and
(39:03):
it was like, well, he said something that was like FCC,
he could have gotten find a lot of money for that,
So will he ever get rehired? And then eventually he
did and uh and then he you know, he's here
working with us now.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
But Mickley, of all people, I would have never guessed
that we should have him come tell this.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
It's pretty good story. Yeah, and he obviously tells it
the best because it happened to him. But anyway, all right,
so what's the moral of the story. The moral stories
all of you guys could be uh, you know, DJs,
I'm certain of it. I'd listen to it because the
stream of consciousness is way better than any kind of
bulls should I ever came up with It was all like,
you know, it was slick. I'd much try to listen
(39:39):
to what is she gonna what is she trying to say?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
What have we learned? Enjoy the journey, Yes, but try
and be present.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
And don't compare.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
But then, but don't be too present because if you're
too present, then you might fuck up the future. Anyway,
there's the tangents have of the day.
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