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But her pants again? Scared? What we that? Good? Huh?
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What are we doing right now? It's called the Tangent?
What no, you did that last week? It's called the Tangent.
This is an off air on censored podcast that we've
decided to fire up again. What happens to your mom
and dad? Ye? The show? They're still there? I think
they're they're alive and well they're not on today. Contra negotiations.
What are we waiting for here? Well, yes, it's been heated.
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They there. No, I'm really not. I just getting them,
both of them or even one of them. Just get
your mom on. That's all we need. Do we have
to have approved questions? No? Well yes, yes, yes, yes
you do. I'd like to see I'd like to see
all questions ahead of time. Comes to Britney Spears. Yeah, boy,
I'd like to see them all. Yes, please send them
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to me ahead of time, let me edit them. I'll
give them back to you. Is Christopher the smartest person
that you've ever known? Is Christopher? The best looking kid
that you had? Is Christopher your favorite child? We don't
have any of those. Christopher the most talented. We know
the answer to all those. Next, all right, let's do
the Tangent. It's Fred and Angie's the Tangents giving you
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all this we couldn't talk about on air back by
popular demand, people have been asking for it. I don't
really I don't have a good reason why we haven't
been doing it, but I guess because we've been you know,
not in the studio or in different places, or quarantine
or this or that, no excuses, I guess. But here
we are. Here, we are, We're back doing the the Tangent.
I'm very frustrated today because I'm dealing with a repair
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on something. And I don't know if you guys have
ever dealt with this before. I'm sure you have. But
it's like the company that made the thing is saying, well, no,
it's not our problem. It's the company that repairs the thing.
It's their problem. But the company that repairs the thing
doesn't make the thing, so why would it be there.
So basically it's just it doesn't matter. But it's these
two people. Just you need something fixed, right, And so
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I got two different people saying, well, no, it's this
person's faults this person. So it's like, okay, well who's
gonna do it? I don't of a ship whose fault
it is, but who's gonna do it? I get it,
Like sometimes I'll order something from an online site and
all of a sudden it's lost in the mail and
I contact the site and they're like, well, that's your
male person's problem. And then I'll contact the mail and
the mail's like, well we never got it. That's their problem.
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You got to go to them. I'm like, oh, this
is what we're talking about. It's like I don't care,
it doesn't matter, like who Who's gonna do it? That's
all like, I don't fix it. I'm not asking for excuse,
and I don't need you to draw me a diagram
of how your company works. I don't care. Like you're
missing the point. Somebody fix it. Fix it's trying to
get fixed. It's some in my house, but it's like
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it doesn't it just doesn't. It doesn't matter. I'm pain
spick it. Yeah, well broken, it's it's the chocolate fountain
that I'm trying to get all of that fixed right now,
and it's just unbelievable. It's all falling apart at once.
The ice cream machine that's that's messed out when that
break or if you run out of the juice and
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I'm over there cranking on this thing and it won't
I had to fix it. It's like, who's gonna pay
for this? I need someone to fix this. I need
my snow coat immediately. And I could buy, you know
one that does it automatically, but no, it's not the
snoopy one with a little a little thing and you
pushed down on the top. And yeah, those handles always
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broke on those names when you were dating. Um what
did Because we're talking on the show today about I've
had some good dates and then I came off a
bad date. Apparently the not so great date was the
one that was captured on film. Not only this is
what I learned. I learned that I went on I
went on a date. I had a drink with somebody.
Somebody was there that I guess wanted to say hi,
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But instead of saying him, she took a picture of
me with this person and then said, well, sorry I
missed you, but you know, here's a picture of you
at the place where I saw you. Next to you.
I would have much rather you had just said hello
than do that. I mean, and I understand, Um, you
know that maybe you didn't want to bother, which I mean,
if I'm not in the middle of a meal or
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something like, it's never a bother. It really is never
a bother. Um. Frankly, it doesn't happen enough that it's
a bother. And I would much prefer to meet you
and say hi, and then you take a picture of
me and post it publicly where I mayor and not
have wanted everyone to know. Um, But it wasn't a
good date. And I'm I I was gonna Here's where
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I was going to go with this. Where I was
going with this is that I learned today that Rufio
actually contacted the stranger who took the picture to she's
a listener. Yeah, well she's I don't know her. You
don't know her personally. It's not like you knew her
to call her and go yo, So you you message
her to then try and get more intel on the
person that I was with. Yes, to do with What
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were you gonna do with that? So? I wanted to
know the location of your your where you were at,
so I could go on social media and see if
there was any tagged photos like say you're at this
restaurant to figure out who this person was. Yes, and
then I asked if that was the only picture she took,
and then she could have found been laden like way earlier.
I don't know why we haven't hire you to be
part of our secret police or the CIA or something.
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I have no idea. That's what I do, like, I
try to find out why, why? Why is that important
so that we can one of the season, we can
dig into your life if you didn't tell us this platform.
But when when when it's something for you to know,
I always tell you know you don't when it's something
for you to know, Well, we want to know before
you tell. Maybe these dates would go better if you
tell us ahead of time. Yeah, could hurt you, We
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could talk seriously, doubt it. Yeah, it sounds like Rufio
was he rented he rented a rowboat because I was
on the river and he comes to roll up. Are
you there that Zach? I saw? Zach Levine was there
this time, and so was Jason Hayward. He pulled up
in his boat. So you probably should have You probably
should have been hanging out to your boat. I would
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have jumped over the railing and gotten into a boat. Yeah, yeah,
I just thought the same thing. I'm like, if I'm
on a date with me and Jason Hayward, if somebody
rolls up that, hey bye, get on that just because
of you. Like if I want to date with anybody
and even pulled up in a boat in my my
husband and I would have jumped over the railing. I've
been like, I'm trying to figure out though, Like, uh,
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you know, I I've dated a couple of nice people.
I just didn't work out for various reasons. No issue there,
It just it wasn't It just went so fast. Man,
it was just like, you know, that's just like no
dating for ten years and six months. But I like
that because at least you're putting yourself out there. The
last one tried to blame the demise on the fact
that things moved quickly, and I here's the thing I don't.
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I don't dictate the pace at which things move. I
just embraced the fact that it was happening, and then
I was excited about it. Unfortunately, it just wasn't sustainable.
But I don't blame that on the pace at which
things happen, because what are you supposed to do? Are
you supposed to then if you meet someone and you
organically like them and things you know, you things move
quickly and you feel a certain kind of way are
you supposed to then inorganically pump the brakes just out
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of principle and say, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, like we're
gonna date other people, or we're gonna take this slowly.
I mean, I feel like that then takes away from
it too. So I guess I just sort of go
with it and if it fizzles, it fizzles, and it did. Um,
But I'm trying to figure out that. I'm trying to
figure out what my when, my approach is going to
be because again I'm not I've met, you know, some
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nice people and some interesting prospects and whatever. I definitely
see the value in partnership, and I want that, um,
you know, in whatever form. But I I think I
think that I and I want to know what you
guys were you know, in your case, some of you
were like and are now As far as how you
think about this, but I think I went from in
my twenties being pretty much purely motivated by the chase
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and by sex. Yeah, in my early thirties two So
then saying, okay, I have to correct because I don't
feel good about myself for that. I don't. I wish
I hadn't done it. I didn't need it. I didn't
need it. Everything is an experience that just like sets
you up for greater things down the road. Actually do have, Yeah,
you got to have a lot of test runs, a
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lot of like And I don't think I missed quote,
I don't know that. I think there's the A one,
But I don't think I missed the person who I
should be with forever or for a long period of
time by doing that, I don't think that would have
gone by the wayside. But I think then what I
did maybe I don't know. At some point last year
was I started, as I work on myself in therapy
and whatever else, is I started shifting to maybe I'm
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let me focus more on the on the connection, on
the person on the profile, you know, like okay, Except
it hasn't worked because I think what I've done is
I've overcompensated and I've focused more on the connection that
I have on the physical and I think, can you
find a happy balance there? And what I'm trying to do,
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I think I want to go back to fucking first
because I did it and it worked out for me.
That's what I'm saying. Because the thing is, I also,
you know, like you also go through a lot of relationships,
so you kind of know when you meet somebody at
this stage in your life that you want to spend
actually a lot more time with, and then you're like,
who we bullshitting, Let's just do it. And that's what
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I'm gonna say. And I'm not saying the sexual connection
with some of these people hasn't been good or whatever,
but I can say that it wasn't as strong as
I think it should have been, and I think part
of the reason was because I was prioritizing other things.
So I think I want to go back to just
hit it first. There doesn't have to be a rule, though,
it's situational, like if you guys feel it, then bang
it out. If you if you feel like you want
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to wait, or if a girl shy, then wait it out.
You know, I mean, you just gotta go situation by
situation below. But I will say that I'm I'm not
forward about I'd like, like like you're gonna sleep with me
or something like that, but I'm not afraid to get
to the topic in hand, Like I'm not afraid to
be like, yo, what are you throwing that out there?
Like on first dates, like the sexual shit or chatter. No,
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but I will say that what happens is, you know,
you pick a couple. I've picked a couple of people
on these dating apps to really kind of invest in
and the conversation. It doesn't take long to go there,
and it's not always me. It's not always me. But
the interesting thing about the dating apps, and I think
a positive thing, if there is one, is that if
you pick the right person and you take time before
you meet them, then you wind up you wind up
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learning way more about people than you would if you
just met them at a bar and went on one date.
I mean, oftentimes, oftentimes when I'm going on a first
date with somebody, the last couple, it really would be
the equivalent of like a fourth or fifth day, because
there have been hours of conversation ahead of time. So
for me to then I know, usually the conversation goes
to sex, and it's not always me. Sometimes it's me,
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but it's not always me. And then so I guess
when I go on a date, I walk in already
feeling some form of connection, and so I it wouldn't
surprise me if it happens then or soon after, because
I know way more about these people typically than I
do about people that I have slept with. I feel
like you sort of have to take the lead on
who you're on the date with at that point, Like
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if they bring it there, then you go there. But
if they don't, then maybe just kind of follow follow
their lead. Yeah, I get that, Like there are people
out there who are just after sex, because I get
their people on these apps that are only looking for
a hook up and I'm not. But I'm also like, look,
but they don't know that about you. But I want
to know if this is going to be fire, because
because I can't, I can't not have that any it's
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got it's got to be fire, because again I don't
go on dates. I don't. I don't talk to you
for two minutes on the dating app and then go okay,
let's go out, like I usually talk to somebody for
a while. So again, by the time we get there,
I feel like, unless there's not physical chemistry in person,
I feel like we're there because we're we're trying to
figure this out, but if there's not physical chemistry in person,
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then you're wasting your time. And I feel like that
should just be spoken then, you know, I feel like,
I mean, we're adults here, like we've done only say no,
I'm fun, but I don't want to bang you, So
by I guess okay, I mean, I mean but not
having a connection, because there's so many times, like you said,
like dating online and people look perfect on paper and
you have these great conversations. I've met people that I
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have great conversations with on Twitter in real life and
there's such a dud and I know it's it's it happened.
Some people are better behind the curtain, and then you
get with them and you're like, and it's okay to
feel like, hey, you know, we don't have a connection.
I think it's just all in the delivery of are
you saying I don't want to have you know, I
don't feel a spark? Are you saying I don't want
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to fuck you? Like? Because and by the way, everybody,
anybody has a right to say that to me and
me to them like it. Honestly, what it wouldn't hurt
my feelings to go on a date and have somebody
be very direct and say, you know what this I
really wouldn't I feel like you. What hurts my feelings
more is if you're beating around the bush or if
or I would much rather you say, look, I thought
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this was. This isn't in person what I thought it
was going to be, and then don't waste my time anymore.
But what happens is if you waste my time or
if I waste yours, then you have a right to
be like, well, my time is valuable. I could have
I could have done something else. That's what pist. Somebody
genuinely said to you after a date, like, listen, this
was fun, thank you so much. I just don't feel
a connection. Are you telling me that you wouldn't go
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home and pick apart everything that you did and everything
you said and like what did I do wrong? Blah
blah blah. I'm sure that it would be irritating, hyper
analyze it. It It might be irritating for like thirty minutes.
But what would be more irritating is knowing that I invested,
or that that this person invested weeks and weeks and
weeks or something, thinking that this was going someplace and
that it wasn't. And again, I understand where that conversation
sometimes doesn't happen because I'm the person who doesn't like
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that conversation, right, so I avoid it too, So I
can see why it doesn't happen. But in a perfect world,
you're everyone's on the same page, everyone's communicating. Yeah, in
a perfect world. But people are uncomfortable with that. So
I think I'm gonna go back and just smash and grab,
just you know, stick and move with the flow. The
flow the other thing I'm famous for doing, and I've
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been doing it forever, and I'm back to doing it
a lot more, is I I In my opinion, I
severely undersell myself from the beginning. I'm like, yo, here
are all the reasons why you might not like me
from the beginning, because I feel like that's like, like
I like a last relationships. These chicks didn't like these women.
I'm sorry, don't mean to be disrespectful. These women didn't like.
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They wound up not liking my job and my career,
and they wound up not liking that. Um, there's a
there's a dichotomy. And Angie, I know you've talked about
this too. The cartoon character aspect. I think that we
are we are honest, real, and god, I hate the
word real and morning radio it's so overused. Everyone wants
to advertise how real they are, and in doing so,
it's so not real. But I really feel like we
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come in here and well, while we embellish, and well,
we enunciate, and well, we don't talk to our friends
with this much gusto behind our voice. Like you know,
I think that we're pretty honest people good or bad,
and but but but yet it's not always the same
in person as it would be on the radio. And
that's that's proven to be a problem for me. People
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expect one thing and they get another, or they want
one thing and they get another, or why are you
like that there and like this here? Well it's because
that's work and this is real life, and I don't
so I try and like say, this has been a
problem in the past, so here it is. This is
what you can expect. And I layd all these things
about me that I think everyone else is complained about,
so that if we got all the crazy upfront, well,
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trust me, there's a lot more behind the scenes. But
I guess what I'm saying is. That's what I'm saying
is don't don't come back and tell me this is
a problem now because I told you, Well, maybe people
don't know whether or not they can deal with it
because they like you and you're telling them this could
be a problem, and they're like, but I really like him,
so let me see if I can handle it, and
then you know, a few weeks down the road, they're like,
I guess I can't handle it. You know, that's fair
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to say, because you can tell people everything that's going
on in your life, and if they really like you,
they can be like, well, I'm down and I guess
see how it goes. I guess. That's what I'm doing, though,
is saying like, here are the pluses and here are
the negatives. If this is something that you can you
think you can do, then let's try it. If you
object to this, then it's never going to work. Right.
But people can think that they're equipped to handle it
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and then realize how all consuming it is and be like, WHOA,
this is not what I thought it was going to be.
I can't I guess I can't handle it. And you
have to respect that too, because you can only try
and if it doesn't work, and if you're not feeling
it or you can't handle it like you know, you
gotta do what you gotta do. I'm in a very
perplexed place right now. I can't find the right balance
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to Kalen's point, I can't find the right balance of
relax and go with the flow. Yeah, but if you
relax and go with the there has to be some
level of assertiveness in this world, because again, if you
go on the dating apps and you're not assertive, then
you just get lost in the pile. I mean, I'm
talking about once you start dating people, like go with
the flow, not on the apps, but once you get
in face to face, just kind of like be breezy
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about it and let the tide take you where it
takes you. Well. I also assume, as we were talking
about on the show, I also assume that it's my
fault if it doesn't work. It's just it's easier for
me to just say I screwed it up, it's my problem,
and deal with myself and learn from it than it
is for me to say, maybe this person is a prick.
I feel like you try to. I mean, I know
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we all are very you know, over analytical about everything
we do in life, but when it comes to love
and when it comes to dating, you can't apply those
same rules, you know what I mean? Like I feel
like so love and emotions and feelings are not always rational.
They don't always make sense. You can't compartmentalize them or
go buy a set of rules or whatever. And if
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it's not going the way you want it to go
in your brain, you're just like, what did I do wrong?
What did I do wrong? Whereas love is crazy, like
it's it doesn't make sense and it's just a heart thing,
and you think too much with your head and maybe
you should think more with your heart. But it's easier
for me to walk away. And again I think I overcompensate.
But it's easier for me to walk away from a
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weird data or a bad relationship or a bad dat
or whatever and say, Okay, well, here's here's what I learned,
and here's what I can do differently next time, because
obviously I'm not that good at everything is meant to
be a lesson on how you should be a better
person in life. Some things just are I just want
to find growth in everything, because again, you can't. Sometimes
I can't stand the people who everything is everybody else's fault.
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And I have to tell you there are so many
of those people. It's so prevalent. And I'm not going
to say it's a generational thing. I'm not even going
to get into that. I don't know what it is.
But you can only worry about yourself. But I can't
believe the number of people who who are not willing
to look themselves in the mirror and have and do
the simple exercise of how would you feel if someone
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treated you this way? It's so simple to me. That's
their problem. I understand that. But problem it's an epidemic.
But that's not your epidemic because you constantly are checking.
You give yourself a Yelp review after every date, and
that's not that's the way I guess that's my method
of protection from And of course I can fall into
that trap. Of course I'm capable of it, and I do.
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But ultimately, I really it's important to me that I'm
not that person and that I say, here's the part
of it that's my fault, and here's where we can
move on. But then there's a point where enough is enough.
You're very smart and you're very pragmatic and you think
with that side of your brain totally. But what you
need to do is tap in. And you've said this
to your emotional side. And sometimes it's not anyone's fault,
it's the chemistry wasn't there exactly, And you can walk
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away saying that it's not that it was off. I
don't know what it was. She was hot, she go
on paper. It doesn't explanation, off and move it on. Yeah,
it doesn't need an explanation, It doesn't need a blame.
You don't have to blame anybody. There's no rhyme or
reason for it. Sometimes it's just energy and it's off,
and if you don't feel it, then it's okay. You
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don't have to be so hard on yourself about shit
breaking down because it's not always your fault. It's not
that other person's fault. Sometimes shit doesn't click. It's a
round peg in a square hole, and you can't be
mad at yourself or beat yourself up or like say,
I'm gonna do this different next time, because you just
go in that rabbit hole over. Yeah, you're bang on
a bottle and the chemistry is off, And you could
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say she's really hot, but I don't, you know, we
don't have chemistry or exactly the perfect person on paper
and you have sexual you know, draw to her, Like
that's not your fault. It's just I'm just our people.
I'm constantly banging models, and I'm like, this's just not
I'm just like, you know what, No, I get it.
I'm telling you I'm going through and I go to
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a lot of therapy, but I'm having a very complicated
mental process right now where And I also think I
overcompensate for like my weirdness, like it's almost I'm not
saying I'm testing people, but sometimes I kind of throw
out the weirdness to be like can you roll with
this or well, I don't not weirdness like I'm not
like I'm not talking about yeah, Like I don't know,
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I don't think I am not I'm I have. I
have an odd personality. Like I said, I'm not for everybody.
I get that, And so sometimes I just look, if
you're gonna hang out with any of us, I can
say this definitively, if you're gonna hang out with any
of us, you better have a sense of humor and
you can't take yourself too seriously, because because weird shit
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happens all the time, I say weird shit. This is
an abnormal job. I talk about stuff sometimes, I you know,
like any entertainers. Sometimes the story is a little crazier
than it actually was. Sometimes I fucking made it up
because I got nothing, because some days I walk in
here and I got nothing. So if you can't handle that,
or if a person, if if you choose to ignore it,
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and then people in your life were like, did you
hear what he said today? If you can't handle that
from the very beginning and just go whatever, then it
will never work. You. You can't like judge somebody from
the jump for that, because you know, we do waiting
by the phones all the time, and one of the
things that always comes up is somebody shows something crazy
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right off the bat, and you're like, yeah, you shouldn't
have said right off the bat, like I'm into having
twenty dicks in my butt at the same time, Like,
get that you have said that right off the bat, right,
Like get somebody to get to know you first to
make a informed decision about whether or not they can
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hang with that. Like when you put all your warts
and all up front. You're just bombarding people with all
your negative and not letting them see all the positive
thing about agree with it. And once they see all
the positive, great things about you, maybe they'll be a
little more open to these stories you tell in the
air and the blah blah blah like because they already
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like you and they know you're a good person, but
they don't know you yet. You know, to make that
informed decision. It's like reading a book, right, you read books.
You just can't you just can't. Don't jump to the end.
You can't just don't jump to the last. The whole story.
It's a whole story, the author. If the author blows,
I don't even start right. So you got to know
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that by testing out the chemistry. And that's the only
way because sometimes you can build a relationship based off
of chemistry. First. No, Rufio is right. That's a good
analogy because you can't just start a story with somebody
and jump right to the end and you get the
full you get the forward. You say, it gives you
the highlights. Wow, that's what it's going. I don't know.
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I'm saying, that's that's story. You looked at it, You're invested.
Let people invest in you as a human before you start, okay,
throwing out everything human. But I guess, and maybe I'm
not making it, maybe I'm not being clear because I
am a little confused. But I guess that's the disappointing
part is when they do, and then it's more important
to complain about the ancillary stuff that doesn't matter. Well,
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I mean, that's part of a relationship. Do you know
how many times do you know how many times in
a day my husband bitches about things about me he
doesn't like and vice versa, Like we we bitch about
annoying things about each other all the time. It's normal.
But then, but that's because at the core, though, at
the core, your spouses value who you are because they
got to know us. And then but the worst thing
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that can ship doesn't matter. But imagine if imagine if
he said, fuck it, I'm done with you because I
don't like what you said. No, because I don't like
what you said on the radio. It's not the person
for me, and I would have known that very early on.
But to be right, but I guess that's this is
what I'm talking about, is that I do want people
to see who I really am. But then I think
that's good enough. I know that's good enough to deal
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with the things that are weird or abnormal or things
that you've never dealt with before. And I'm finding that
people would rather harp on that than focus on And
that's then you move on onto the next one. You
can tell I'm confused. No, then you just go onto
the next one. The person that you will end up with,
the person that loves you, will understand your life and
(24:27):
understand your relationships and understand your job, understand your connection
with your mom. Like, nothing will be so much that
they're ready to walk away. I mean, yes, you might
fight about things here and there. There have been times
where my husband's like, what the fuck did you just
say on the radio about me? And blah blah, but
it's it's not enough to make somebody walk away because
they're already invested in you and they love you for
(24:47):
who you are, and they know they're gonna have delicious
and okay for me. But you will fine, that's okay.
You will just a feeling Like every person that I've
dated long term, the second eye laid as on them,
I'm like, we're gonna be in love we're gonna date,
just a feeling and then I figured all the other
shit out along the way. That's just that's just sideeshit.
The most important thing is how you feel about that
(25:08):
person and that energy that you have, and your mental
connection and your sexual connection and your emotional connection. All
the other shit doesn't matter. So bang first, No, I
can I just talk for a half hour? It's but yeah,
you can be first. I've done that. I did it
for five years. I mean it's it's whatever feels right.
If you guys want to bang, your bang, no judgment
(25:30):
on any way you handle it. It's just how the
outcome turns out. If you're both down for whatever, then
do whatever. Yep, So, who wants to date me? I'm
sure a lot of people do. Can I sell you for?
Like whoever you talk about? I'm talking about Epstein? Well,
can I finish whatever? You just call me Jeffrey, I'm no.
(25:59):
I mean, like, can I go to your island? Oh?
Can I get in her plan? And Joseph? You guys,
can I just to the girls, like, I want to
be your PR person because I don't know, I need
someone else. I need someone else to do my PR.
Don't you don't. No, I sew. I sell a lot
of the challenges before I sell the positive. You're your
own best pr Let me do the texting. And he
(26:22):
doesn't learn how to communicate the right way. No, No,
you can't be his sir. No diversion kid. You can't
do that kid on a first date or even when
you're talking beforehand. You just can't. I every problem in
your life, Like that's crazy. He needs to learn how
to flirt on his own. Yeah, you're you're like, you're
like putting vegetables in kids brownies to make me eat
(26:43):
vegetables like I have kids. No, you will not, Yes,
I will. Oh that's the worst. Let them figure out
what vegetables are. You can help your friends flirt, though.
I always help my friends flirt, and they have gone
on to have successful relationships. I gotta go home and
listen to this podcast and and like write down what
I said to see if it even makes it doesn't
(27:03):
make sense. It's like it makes sense to me, and
it doesn't make sense to me. I'm just having a
bit of a struggle these days. It's fine, just go
with the flow. I guess some stuff. Yeah, no, it's
stuff in the works. I got some stuff in the pipeline,
I got some breaking in the pan, I got some
stuff your next day in production, Yeah, next day. I
don't have anything. I haven't confirmed anything. I haven't committed
(27:25):
to any one thing yet. Okay, but there is there
something you want to Yeah, there might be some things
on the horizon. I'm trying to use as many cliche
comments as I can. Yeah, you know, we're looking you
know what. Yeah, Yeah, basically I got I got guy
over here. Yeah, yeah, you know we uh you know,
that wasn't my best performance the other night. I wasn't
(27:47):
really happy with the way that way. But we're looking
forward to the next opponent. We're looking forward. We're looking
forward to Dallas. We're looking forward to Dallas. A lot
of these tangents turn into Fred's group therapy. This is
why we need your mom on you. It's a it's
a Bill Belichick line. We're moving forward. We're looking forward
to Cincinnati. Yeah, when they ask about it, to Dallas, Yeah,
we're going to know when they ask what just happened,
they'll be like, what what happened? They'd be like, we're
(28:07):
looking forward to Green Bay. Yeah, that's that's what we're doing. Yeah,
it's National Love Horses Day. It's also National Tapioca Day.
So forget about the last game, focus on the next game.
We're moving forward. Have you have you seen the video?
Viral video, and then we could be done of the
guy who does like fake postgame interviews from like things
that like like he did one from an orgy. It
(28:28):
wasn't it wasn't an orgy, but he's like it was
like the post game of an orgy. Oh my god,
I just thought of a great new idea. You know
how they that just drew me to something like you
know how they have commentators on like National Geographic, we
should do commentary on porn, like, oh my god, why
did you put it there? And you I feel like
that would get old quickly because it's the same over again.
(28:51):
Stuck again, Yeah, get stuck there. It's such a hairy butthole, like,
don't talk about me like that. Trim it. I told
you it was ugly from the beginning. I told you
I had an ugly asshole from the start. Here we
go with my negatives to these girls. I'm like, look,
my job's complicated. I'm I'm I'm weird. Don't put it
(29:13):
all up and my ass is not attracted. You know what,
the same way our grandma's lecture us about not putting
it all up front. Don't put your tits out there
and your legs out there all day, don't put all
your crazy upfront. Yeah, just talk about your speak. And
(29:36):
you say you guys don't talk about each other's wieners,
because don't. He talks about fine, I've never talked about
Rufio's dick. All right, let's see your dick so we
can talk about sane. Thanks for listening. I'm glad we're back.
But her pants again? Scared? What we that? Good? Huh?
(00:08):
What are we doing right now? It's called the Tangent?
What no, you did that last week? It's called the Tangent.
This is an off air on censored podcast that we've
decided to fire up again. What happens to your mom
and dad? Ye? The show? They're still there? I think
they're they're alive and well they're not on today. Contra negotiations.
What are we waiting for here? Well, yes, it's been heated.
(00:28):
They there. No, I'm really not. I just getting them,
both of them or even one of them. Just get
your mom on. That's all we need. Do we have
to have approved questions? No? Well yes, yes, yes, yes
you do. I'd like to see I'd like to see
all questions ahead of time. Comes to Britney Spears. Yeah, boy,
I'd like to see them all. Yes, please send them
(00:49):
to me ahead of time, let me edit them. I'll
give them back to you. Is Christopher the smartest person
that you've ever known? Is Christopher? The best looking kid
that you had? Is Christopher your favorite child? We don't
have any of those. Christopher the most talented. We know
the answer to all those. Next, all right, let's do
the Tangent. It's Fred and Angie's the Tangents giving you
(01:10):
all this we couldn't talk about on air back by
popular demand, people have been asking for it. I don't
really I don't have a good reason why we haven't
been doing it, but I guess because we've been you know,
not in the studio or in different places, or quarantine
or this or that, no excuses, I guess. But here
we are. Here, we are, We're back doing the the Tangent.
I'm very frustrated today because I'm dealing with a repair
(01:31):
on something. And I don't know if you guys have
ever dealt with this before. I'm sure you have. But
it's like the company that made the thing is saying, well, no,
it's not our problem. It's the company that repairs the thing.
It's their problem. But the company that repairs the thing
doesn't make the thing, so why would it be there.
So basically it's just it doesn't matter. But it's these
two people. Just you need something fixed, right, And so
(01:54):
I got two different people saying, well, no, it's this
person's faults this person. So it's like, okay, well who's
gonna do it? I don't of a ship whose fault
it is, but who's gonna do it? I get it,
Like sometimes I'll order something from an online site and
all of a sudden it's lost in the mail and
I contact the site and they're like, well, that's your
male person's problem. And then I'll contact the mail and
the mail's like, well we never got it. That's their problem.
(02:15):
You got to go to them. I'm like, oh, this
is what we're talking about. It's like I don't care,
it doesn't matter, like who Who's gonna do it? That's
all like, I don't fix it. I'm not asking for excuse,
and I don't need you to draw me a diagram
of how your company works. I don't care. Like you're
missing the point. Somebody fix it. Fix it's trying to
get fixed. It's some in my house, but it's like
(02:36):
it doesn't it just doesn't. It doesn't matter. I'm pain
spick it. Yeah, well broken, it's it's the chocolate fountain
that I'm trying to get all of that fixed right now,
and it's just unbelievable. It's all falling apart at once.
The ice cream machine that's that's messed out when that
break or if you run out of the juice and
(02:58):
I'm over there cranking on this thing and it won't
I had to fix it. It's like, who's gonna pay
for this? I need someone to fix this. I need
my snow coat immediately. And I could buy, you know
one that does it automatically, but no, it's not the
snoopy one with a little a little thing and you
pushed down on the top. And yeah, those handles always
(03:20):
broke on those names when you were dating. Um what
did Because we're talking on the show today about I've
had some good dates and then I came off a
bad date. Apparently the not so great date was the
one that was captured on film. Not only this is
what I learned. I learned that I went on I
went on a date. I had a drink with somebody.
Somebody was there that I guess wanted to say hi,
(03:41):
But instead of saying him, she took a picture of
me with this person and then said, well, sorry I
missed you, but you know, here's a picture of you
at the place where I saw you. Next to you.
I would have much rather you had just said hello
than do that. I mean, and I understand, Um, you
know that maybe you didn't want to bother, which I mean,
if I'm not in the middle of a meal or
(04:02):
something like, it's never a bother. It really is never
a bother. Um. Frankly, it doesn't happen enough that it's
a bother. And I would much prefer to meet you
and say hi, and then you take a picture of
me and post it publicly where I mayor and not
have wanted everyone to know. Um, But it wasn't a
good date. And I'm I I was gonna Here's where
(04:25):
I was going to go with this. Where I was
going with this is that I learned today that Rufio
actually contacted the stranger who took the picture to she's
a listener. Yeah, well she's I don't know her. You
don't know her personally. It's not like you knew her
to call her and go yo, So you you message
her to then try and get more intel on the
person that I was with. Yes, to do with What
(04:47):
were you gonna do with that? So? I wanted to
know the location of your your where you were at,
so I could go on social media and see if
there was any tagged photos like say you're at this
restaurant to figure out who this person was. Yes, and
then I asked if that was the only picture she took,
and then she could have found been laden like way earlier.
I don't know why we haven't hire you to be
part of our secret police or the CIA or something.
(05:09):
I have no idea. That's what I do, like, I
try to find out why, why? Why is that important
so that we can one of the season, we can
dig into your life if you didn't tell us this platform.
But when when when it's something for you to know,
I always tell you know you don't when it's something
for you to know, Well, we want to know before
you tell. Maybe these dates would go better if you
tell us ahead of time. Yeah, could hurt you, We
(05:29):
could talk seriously, doubt it. Yeah, it sounds like Rufio
was he rented he rented a rowboat because I was
on the river and he comes to roll up. Are
you there that Zach? I saw? Zach Levine was there
this time, and so was Jason Hayward. He pulled up
in his boat. So you probably should have You probably
should have been hanging out to your boat. I would
(05:50):
have jumped over the railing and gotten into a boat. Yeah, yeah,
I just thought the same thing. I'm like, if I'm
on a date with me and Jason Hayward, if somebody
rolls up that, hey bye, get on that just because
of you. Like if I want to date with anybody
and even pulled up in a boat in my my
husband and I would have jumped over the railing. I've
been like, I'm trying to figure out though, Like, uh,
(06:11):
you know, I I've dated a couple of nice people.
I just didn't work out for various reasons. No issue there,
It just it wasn't It just went so fast. Man,
it was just like, you know, that's just like no
dating for ten years and six months. But I like
that because at least you're putting yourself out there. The
last one tried to blame the demise on the fact
that things moved quickly, and I here's the thing I don't.
(06:31):
I don't dictate the pace at which things move. I
just embraced the fact that it was happening, and then
I was excited about it. Unfortunately, it just wasn't sustainable.
But I don't blame that on the pace at which
things happen, because what are you supposed to do? Are
you supposed to then if you meet someone and you
organically like them and things you know, you things move
quickly and you feel a certain kind of way are
you supposed to then inorganically pump the brakes just out
(06:54):
of principle and say, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, like we're
gonna date other people, or we're gonna take this slowly.
I mean, I feel like that then takes away from
it too. So I guess I just sort of go
with it and if it fizzles, it fizzles, and it did. Um,
But I'm trying to figure out that. I'm trying to
figure out what my when, my approach is going to
be because again I'm not I've met, you know, some
(07:17):
nice people and some interesting prospects and whatever. I definitely
see the value in partnership, and I want that, um,
you know, in whatever form. But I I think I
think that I and I want to know what you
guys were you know, in your case, some of you
were like and are now As far as how you
think about this, but I think I went from in
my twenties being pretty much purely motivated by the chase
(07:40):
and by sex. Yeah, in my early thirties two So
then saying, okay, I have to correct because I don't
feel good about myself for that. I don't. I wish
I hadn't done it. I didn't need it. I didn't
need it. Everything is an experience that just like sets
you up for greater things down the road. Actually do have, Yeah,
you got to have a lot of test runs, a
(08:00):
lot of like And I don't think I missed quote,
I don't know that. I think there's the A one,
But I don't think I missed the person who I
should be with forever or for a long period of
time by doing that, I don't think that would have
gone by the wayside. But I think then what I
did maybe I don't know. At some point last year
was I started, as I work on myself in therapy
and whatever else, is I started shifting to maybe I'm
(08:21):
let me focus more on the on the connection, on
the person on the profile, you know, like okay, Except
it hasn't worked because I think what I've done is
I've overcompensated and I've focused more on the connection that
I have on the physical and I think, can you
find a happy balance there? And what I'm trying to do,
(08:42):
I think I want to go back to fucking first
because I did it and it worked out for me.
That's what I'm saying. Because the thing is, I also,
you know, like you also go through a lot of relationships,
so you kind of know when you meet somebody at
this stage in your life that you want to spend
actually a lot more time with, and then you're like,
who we bullshitting, Let's just do it. And that's what
(09:03):
I'm gonna say. And I'm not saying the sexual connection
with some of these people hasn't been good or whatever,
but I can say that it wasn't as strong as
I think it should have been, and I think part
of the reason was because I was prioritizing other things.
So I think I want to go back to just
hit it first. There doesn't have to be a rule, though,
it's situational, like if you guys feel it, then bang
it out. If you if you feel like you want
(09:23):
to wait, or if a girl shy, then wait it out.
You know, I mean, you just gotta go situation by
situation below. But I will say that I'm I'm not
forward about I'd like, like like you're gonna sleep with me
or something like that, but I'm not afraid to get
to the topic in hand, Like I'm not afraid to
be like, yo, what are you throwing that out there?
Like on first dates, like the sexual shit or chatter. No,
(09:45):
but I will say that what happens is, you know,
you pick a couple. I've picked a couple of people
on these dating apps to really kind of invest in
and the conversation. It doesn't take long to go there,
and it's not always me. It's not always me. But
the interesting thing about the dating apps, and I think
a positive thing, if there is one, is that if
you pick the right person and you take time before
you meet them, then you wind up you wind up
(10:07):
learning way more about people than you would if you
just met them at a bar and went on one date.
I mean, oftentimes, oftentimes when I'm going on a first
date with somebody, the last couple, it really would be
the equivalent of like a fourth or fifth day, because
there have been hours of conversation ahead of time. So
for me to then I know, usually the conversation goes
to sex, and it's not always me. Sometimes it's me,
(10:27):
but it's not always me. And then so I guess
when I go on a date, I walk in already
feeling some form of connection, and so I it wouldn't
surprise me if it happens then or soon after, because
I know way more about these people typically than I
do about people that I have slept with. I feel
like you sort of have to take the lead on
who you're on the date with at that point, Like
(10:49):
if they bring it there, then you go there. But
if they don't, then maybe just kind of follow follow
their lead. Yeah, I get that, Like there are people
out there who are just after sex, because I get
their people on these apps that are only looking for
a hook up and I'm not. But I'm also like, look,
but they don't know that about you. But I want
to know if this is going to be fire, because
because I can't, I can't not have that any it's
(11:11):
got it's got to be fire, because again I don't
go on dates. I don't. I don't talk to you
for two minutes on the dating app and then go okay,
let's go out, like I usually talk to somebody for
a while. So again, by the time we get there,
I feel like, unless there's not physical chemistry in person,
I feel like we're there because we're we're trying to
figure this out, but if there's not physical chemistry in person,
(11:33):
then you're wasting your time. And I feel like that
should just be spoken then, you know, I feel like,
I mean, we're adults here, like we've done only say no,
I'm fun, but I don't want to bang you, So
by I guess okay, I mean, I mean but not
having a connection, because there's so many times, like you said,
like dating online and people look perfect on paper and
you have these great conversations. I've met people that I
(11:55):
have great conversations with on Twitter in real life and
there's such a dud and I know it's it's it happened.
Some people are better behind the curtain, and then you
get with them and you're like, and it's okay to
feel like, hey, you know, we don't have a connection.
I think it's just all in the delivery of are
you saying I don't want to have you know, I
don't feel a spark? Are you saying I don't want
(12:16):
to fuck you? Like? Because and by the way, everybody,
anybody has a right to say that to me and
me to them like it. Honestly, what it wouldn't hurt
my feelings to go on a date and have somebody
be very direct and say, you know what this I
really wouldn't I feel like you. What hurts my feelings
more is if you're beating around the bush or if
or I would much rather you say, look, I thought
(12:38):
this was. This isn't in person what I thought it
was going to be, and then don't waste my time anymore.
But what happens is if you waste my time or
if I waste yours, then you have a right to
be like, well, my time is valuable. I could have
I could have done something else. That's what pist. Somebody
genuinely said to you after a date, like, listen, this
was fun, thank you so much. I just don't feel
a connection. Are you telling me that you wouldn't go
(12:58):
home and pick apart everything that you did and everything
you said and like what did I do wrong? Blah
blah blah. I'm sure that it would be irritating, hyper
analyze it. It It might be irritating for like thirty minutes.
But what would be more irritating is knowing that I invested,
or that that this person invested weeks and weeks and
weeks or something, thinking that this was going someplace and
that it wasn't. And again, I understand where that conversation
sometimes doesn't happen because I'm the person who doesn't like
(13:21):
that conversation, right, so I avoid it too, So I
can see why it doesn't happen. But in a perfect world,
you're everyone's on the same page, everyone's communicating. Yeah, in
a perfect world. But people are uncomfortable with that. So
I think I'm gonna go back and just smash and grab,
just you know, stick and move with the flow. The
flow the other thing I'm famous for doing, and I've
(13:44):
been doing it forever, and I'm back to doing it
a lot more, is I I In my opinion, I
severely undersell myself from the beginning. I'm like, yo, here
are all the reasons why you might not like me
from the beginning, because I feel like that's like, like
I like a last relationships. These chicks didn't like these women.
I'm sorry, don't mean to be disrespectful. These women didn't like.
(14:06):
They wound up not liking my job and my career,
and they wound up not liking that. Um, there's a
there's a dichotomy. And Angie, I know you've talked about
this too. The cartoon character aspect. I think that we
are we are honest, real, and god, I hate the
word real and morning radio it's so overused. Everyone wants
to advertise how real they are, and in doing so,
it's so not real. But I really feel like we
(14:28):
come in here and well, while we embellish, and well,
we enunciate, and well, we don't talk to our friends
with this much gusto behind our voice. Like you know,
I think that we're pretty honest people good or bad,
and but but but yet it's not always the same
in person as it would be on the radio. And
that's that's proven to be a problem for me. People
(14:50):
expect one thing and they get another, or they want
one thing and they get another, or why are you
like that there and like this here? Well it's because
that's work and this is real life, and I don't
so I try and like say, this has been a
problem in the past, so here it is. This is
what you can expect. And I layd all these things
about me that I think everyone else is complained about,
so that if we got all the crazy upfront, well,
(15:12):
trust me, there's a lot more behind the scenes. But
I guess what I'm saying is. That's what I'm saying
is don't don't come back and tell me this is
a problem now because I told you, Well, maybe people
don't know whether or not they can deal with it
because they like you and you're telling them this could
be a problem, and they're like, but I really like him,
so let me see if I can handle it, and
then you know, a few weeks down the road, they're like,
I guess I can't handle it. You know, that's fair
(15:34):
to say, because you can tell people everything that's going
on in your life, and if they really like you,
they can be like, well, I'm down and I guess
see how it goes. I guess. That's what I'm doing, though,
is saying like, here are the pluses and here are
the negatives. If this is something that you can you
think you can do, then let's try it. If you
object to this, then it's never going to work. Right.
But people can think that they're equipped to handle it
(15:55):
and then realize how all consuming it is and be like, WHOA,
this is not what I thought it was going to be.
I can't I guess I can't handle it. And you
have to respect that too, because you can only try
and if it doesn't work, and if you're not feeling
it or you can't handle it like you know, you
gotta do what you gotta do. I'm in a very
perplexed place right now. I can't find the right balance
(16:16):
to Kalen's point, I can't find the right balance of
relax and go with the flow. Yeah, but if you
relax and go with the there has to be some
level of assertiveness in this world, because again, if you
go on the dating apps and you're not assertive, then
you just get lost in the pile. I mean, I'm
talking about once you start dating people, like go with
the flow, not on the apps, but once you get
in face to face, just kind of like be breezy
(16:37):
about it and let the tide take you where it
takes you. Well. I also assume, as we were talking
about on the show, I also assume that it's my
fault if it doesn't work. It's just it's easier for
me to just say I screwed it up, it's my problem,
and deal with myself and learn from it than it
is for me to say, maybe this person is a prick.
I feel like you try to. I mean, I know
(17:02):
we all are very you know, over analytical about everything
we do in life, but when it comes to love
and when it comes to dating, you can't apply those
same rules, you know what I mean? Like I feel
like so love and emotions and feelings are not always rational.
They don't always make sense. You can't compartmentalize them or
go buy a set of rules or whatever. And if
(17:22):
it's not going the way you want it to go
in your brain, you're just like, what did I do wrong?
What did I do wrong? Whereas love is crazy, like
it's it doesn't make sense and it's just a heart thing,
and you think too much with your head and maybe
you should think more with your heart. But it's easier
for me to walk away. And again I think I overcompensate.
But it's easier for me to walk away from a
(17:43):
weird data or a bad relationship or a bad dat
or whatever and say, Okay, well, here's here's what I learned,
and here's what I can do differently next time, because
obviously I'm not that good at everything is meant to
be a lesson on how you should be a better
person in life. Some things just are I just want
to find growth in everything, because again, you can't. Sometimes
I can't stand the people who everything is everybody else's fault.
(18:04):
And I have to tell you there are so many
of those people. It's so prevalent. And I'm not going
to say it's a generational thing. I'm not even going
to get into that. I don't know what it is.
But you can only worry about yourself. But I can't
believe the number of people who who are not willing
to look themselves in the mirror and have and do
the simple exercise of how would you feel if someone
(18:27):
treated you this way? It's so simple to me. That's
their problem. I understand that. But problem it's an epidemic.
But that's not your epidemic because you constantly are checking.
You give yourself a Yelp review after every date, and
that's not that's the way I guess that's my method
of protection from And of course I can fall into
that trap. Of course I'm capable of it, and I do.
(18:49):
But ultimately, I really it's important to me that I'm
not that person and that I say, here's the part
of it that's my fault, and here's where we can
move on. But then there's a point where enough is enough.
You're very smart and you're very pragmatic and you think
with that side of your brain totally. But what you
need to do is tap in. And you've said this
to your emotional side. And sometimes it's not anyone's fault,
it's the chemistry wasn't there exactly, And you can walk
(19:11):
away saying that it's not that it was off. I
don't know what it was. She was hot, she go
on paper. It doesn't explanation, off and move it on. Yeah,
it doesn't need an explanation, It doesn't need a blame.
You don't have to blame anybody. There's no rhyme or
reason for it. Sometimes it's just energy and it's off,
and if you don't feel it, then it's okay. You
(19:31):
don't have to be so hard on yourself about shit
breaking down because it's not always your fault. It's not
that other person's fault. Sometimes shit doesn't click. It's a
round peg in a square hole, and you can't be
mad at yourself or beat yourself up or like say,
I'm gonna do this different next time, because you just
go in that rabbit hole over. Yeah, you're bang on
a bottle and the chemistry is off, And you could
(19:53):
say she's really hot, but I don't, you know, we
don't have chemistry or exactly the perfect person on paper
and you have sexual you know, draw to her, Like
that's not your fault. It's just I'm just our people.
I'm constantly banging models, and I'm like, this's just not
I'm just like, you know what, No, I get it.
I'm telling you I'm going through and I go to
(20:14):
a lot of therapy, but I'm having a very complicated
mental process right now where And I also think I
overcompensate for like my weirdness, like it's almost I'm not
saying I'm testing people, but sometimes I kind of throw
out the weirdness to be like can you roll with
this or well, I don't not weirdness like I'm not
like I'm not talking about yeah, Like I don't know,
(20:37):
I don't think I am not I'm I have. I
have an odd personality. Like I said, I'm not for everybody.
I get that, And so sometimes I just look, if
you're gonna hang out with any of us, I can
say this definitively, if you're gonna hang out with any
of us, you better have a sense of humor and
you can't take yourself too seriously, because because weird shit
(20:57):
happens all the time, I say weird shit. This is
an abnormal job. I talk about stuff sometimes, I you know,
like any entertainers. Sometimes the story is a little crazier
than it actually was. Sometimes I fucking made it up
because I got nothing, because some days I walk in
here and I got nothing. So if you can't handle that,
or if a person, if if you choose to ignore it,
(21:18):
and then people in your life were like, did you
hear what he said today? If you can't handle that
from the very beginning and just go whatever, then it
will never work. You. You can't like judge somebody from
the jump for that, because you know, we do waiting
by the phones all the time, and one of the
things that always comes up is somebody shows something crazy
(21:39):
right off the bat, and you're like, yeah, you shouldn't
have said right off the bat, like I'm into having
twenty dicks in my butt at the same time, Like,
get that you have said that right off the bat, right,
Like get somebody to get to know you first to
make a informed decision about whether or not they can
(22:00):
hang with that. Like when you put all your warts
and all up front. You're just bombarding people with all
your negative and not letting them see all the positive
thing about agree with it. And once they see all
the positive, great things about you, maybe they'll be a
little more open to these stories you tell in the
air and the blah blah blah like because they already
(22:20):
like you and they know you're a good person, but
they don't know you yet. You know, to make that
informed decision. It's like reading a book, right, you read books.
You just can't you just can't. Don't jump to the end.
You can't just don't jump to the last. The whole story.
It's a whole story, the author. If the author blows,
I don't even start right. So you got to know
(22:41):
that by testing out the chemistry. And that's the only
way because sometimes you can build a relationship based off
of chemistry. First. No, Rufio is right. That's a good
analogy because you can't just start a story with somebody
and jump right to the end and you get the
full you get the forward. You say, it gives you
the highlights. Wow, that's what it's going. I don't know.
(23:01):
I'm saying, that's that's story. You looked at it, You're invested.
Let people invest in you as a human before you start, okay,
throwing out everything human. But I guess, and maybe I'm
not making it, maybe I'm not being clear because I
am a little confused. But I guess that's the disappointing
part is when they do, and then it's more important
to complain about the ancillary stuff that doesn't matter. Well,
(23:24):
I mean, that's part of a relationship. Do you know
how many times do you know how many times in
a day my husband bitches about things about me he
doesn't like and vice versa, Like we we bitch about
annoying things about each other all the time. It's normal.
But then, but that's because at the core, though, at
the core, your spouses value who you are because they
got to know us. And then but the worst thing
(23:45):
that can ship doesn't matter. But imagine if imagine if
he said, fuck it, I'm done with you because I
don't like what you said. No, because I don't like
what you said on the radio. It's not the person
for me, and I would have known that very early on.
But to be right, but I guess that's this is
what I'm talking about, is that I do want people
to see who I really am. But then I think
that's good enough. I know that's good enough to deal
(24:07):
with the things that are weird or abnormal or things
that you've never dealt with before. And I'm finding that
people would rather harp on that than focus on And
that's then you move on onto the next one. You
can tell I'm confused. No, then you just go onto
the next one. The person that you will end up with,
the person that loves you, will understand your life and
(24:27):
understand your relationships and understand your job, understand your connection
with your mom. Like, nothing will be so much that
they're ready to walk away. I mean, yes, you might
fight about things here and there. There have been times
where my husband's like, what the fuck did you just
say on the radio about me? And blah blah, but
it's it's not enough to make somebody walk away because
they're already invested in you and they love you for
(24:47):
who you are, and they know they're gonna have delicious
and okay for me. But you will fine, that's okay.
You will just a feeling Like every person that I've
dated long term, the second eye laid as on them,
I'm like, we're gonna be in love we're gonna date,
just a feeling and then I figured all the other
shit out along the way. That's just that's just sideeshit.
The most important thing is how you feel about that
(25:08):
person and that energy that you have, and your mental
connection and your sexual connection and your emotional connection. All
the other shit doesn't matter. So bang first, No, I
can I just talk for a half hour? It's but yeah,
you can be first. I've done that. I did it
for five years. I mean it's it's whatever feels right.
If you guys want to bang, your bang, no judgment
(25:30):
on any way you handle it. It's just how the
outcome turns out. If you're both down for whatever, then
do whatever. Yep, So, who wants to date me? I'm
sure a lot of people do. Can I sell you for?
Like whoever you talk about? I'm talking about Epstein? Well,
can I finish whatever? You just call me Jeffrey, I'm no.
(25:59):
I mean, like, can I go to your island? Oh?
Can I get in her plan? And Joseph? You guys,
can I just to the girls, like, I want to
be your PR person because I don't know, I need
someone else. I need someone else to do my PR.
Don't you don't. No, I sew. I sell a lot
of the challenges before I sell the positive. You're your
own best pr Let me do the texting. And he
(26:22):
doesn't learn how to communicate the right way. No, No,
you can't be his sir. No diversion kid. You can't
do that kid on a first date or even when
you're talking beforehand. You just can't. I every problem in
your life, Like that's crazy. He needs to learn how
to flirt on his own. Yeah, you're you're like, you're
like putting vegetables in kids brownies to make me eat
(26:43):
vegetables like I have kids. No, you will not, Yes,
I will. Oh that's the worst. Let them figure out
what vegetables are. You can help your friends flirt, though.
I always help my friends flirt, and they have gone
on to have successful relationships. I gotta go home and
listen to this podcast and and like write down what
I said to see if it even makes it doesn't
(27:03):
make sense. It's like it makes sense to me, and
it doesn't make sense to me. I'm just having a
bit of a struggle these days. It's fine, just go
with the flow. I guess some stuff. Yeah, no, it's
stuff in the works. I got some stuff in the pipeline,
I got some breaking in the pan, I got some
stuff your next day in production, Yeah, next day. I
don't have anything. I haven't confirmed anything. I haven't committed
(27:25):
to any one thing yet. Okay, but there is there
something you want to Yeah, there might be some things
on the horizon. I'm trying to use as many cliche
comments as I can. Yeah, you know, we're looking you
know what. Yeah, Yeah, basically I got I got guy
over here. Yeah, yeah, you know we uh you know,
that wasn't my best performance the other night. I wasn't
(27:47):
really happy with the way that way. But we're looking
forward to the next opponent. We're looking forward. We're looking
forward to Dallas. We're looking forward to Dallas. A lot
of these tangents turn into Fred's group therapy. This is
why we need your mom on you. It's a it's
a Bill Belichick line. We're moving forward. We're looking forward
to Cincinnati. Yeah, when they ask about it, to Dallas, Yeah,
we're going to know when they ask what just happened,
they'll be like, what what happened? They'd be like, we're
(28:07):
looking forward to Green Bay. Yeah, that's that's what we're doing. Yeah,
it's National Love Horses Day. It's also National Tapioca Day.
So forget about the last game, focus on the next game.
We're moving forward. Have you have you seen the video?
Viral video, and then we could be done of the
guy who does like fake postgame interviews from like things
that like like he did one from an orgy. It
(28:28):
wasn't it wasn't an orgy, but he's like it was
like the post game of an orgy. Oh my god,
I just thought of a great new idea. You know
how they that just drew me to something like you
know how they have commentators on like National Geographic, we
should do commentary on porn, like, oh my god, why
did you put it there? And you I feel like
that would get old quickly because it's the same over again.
(28:51):
Stuck again, Yeah, get stuck there. It's such a hairy butthole, like,
don't talk about me like that. Trim it. I told
you it was ugly from the beginning. I told you
I had an ugly asshole from the start. Here we
go with my negatives to these girls. I'm like, look,
my job's complicated. I'm I'm I'm weird. Don't put it
(29:13):
all up and my ass is not attracted. You know what,
the same way our grandma's lecture us about not putting
it all up front. Don't put your tits out there
and your legs out there all day, don't put all
your crazy upfront. Yeah, just talk about your speak. And
(29:36):
you say you guys don't talk about each other's wieners,
because don't. He talks about fine, I've never talked about
Rufio's dick. All right, let's see your dick so we
can talk about sane. Thanks for listening. I'm glad we're back.
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