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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Relationship Talk Thursday here with the Power Couple Pastors the
Moaning Airica Glenn.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
A man can't do it alone. Your presence unlocks his potential.
So what is it specifically.
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That the woman can bring to the table.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I think, without making it too gender bias, she brings
a lot to the table, right, it's first of all,
I want to just say, it depends on our gifts.
So not every woman is the same, Okay, So but
number one, with that being said, bring your gifts. So
she brings her gifts to the marriage, to the relationship.
Her gifts are suitable, complementary, and helpful. There are areas
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in her strengths that are obviously his weaknesses, and so
when she brings her gifts, that is a big thing
by itself.
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Right.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I don't want to get into roles because that's different.
I don't want to say bringing your cooking skills because
you might not be a good thok you know what
I'm saying.
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He might be a better cook than you.
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I just want to say, bring your gifts to the
relationship and let those gifts start to unpack and explore
what that looks like.
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Value.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yeah, I think everything that he said, you know, a
woman knowing her gifts and bringing them to the marriage,
to the to the relationship.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
But I would have to say, for me, just what.
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I have seen over the years is your prayer life
as a woman. Your prayer life, to me, dictates the
temperament of your household, the prophetic voice for your house,
for your children, those the individuals that God has a
sign to your life, like laboring and praying for them
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is just a major, major gift.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Let's get into it. Relationship talk Thursday.
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It's Sonia with the Power Couple pastors demoted Erica Glenn.
Just in case folks are listening in for the first time.
I know y'all, but how would you introduce yourselves to
our listeners, to.
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The world that's listening right now.
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That's very interesting. Yeah, we're the Glens. Twenty years of marriage.
So we've been together, love of my life, partner and purpose.
We have three children. We serve as an executive pastor.
I do a New life here in Chicago, and we
have our own ministries to marriages and families. My wife
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is a Crown's coach, who's who of America's teacher retire educator.
I go on, I go on, but you know, we
just love what we get to do and glad that
we get to do it here. Thanks for inviting us
and being a part of relationship talk Thursday.
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Yeah did he cover it pastor he covered it all?
You get it in?
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He covered it all?
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Okay? All right?
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So a man can't do it alone. Your presence unlocks
his potential. So let's talk about that you were made
to multiply his mission, not mute your own. Yeah, right,
that's an agree. And why why past?
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You know, because there has to be alignment. Attraction is important,
but assignment is equally as important as attraction. Of course,
please please please don't marry somebody you're not attracted to.
Please don't you go to look at them every day.
But beyond that attraction or what enhances that attraction is
the assignment.
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The alignment.
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So so the person that you wit doesn't feel like
that they're losing themselves in purpose. Right, everybody loses a
little bit of themselves in o mission, but don't feel
like they're losing themselves in purpose to be with you
as a partner. So alignment agreement for the excitement for
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the assignment that God has put on your life. That's
how you unlock your potential. As I said as a
previous segment in Genesis, when God created woman in the
role of a wife in Genesis too, it was because
he gave Adam such an extreme assignment, a mandate, things
to accomplish, things to do, and say, you cannot do
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this alone. It's not that you can and do it,
but you can accomplish it to the level that you
were created to accomplish it. And now I know people
don't like you know, oh, this is a love thing.
It's not a partnership. It's not a business. It's a marriage,
you know, and all that. But life is a business.
And at the end of the day, you can be
in love with somebody and attracted to them. But if
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y'all not aligned in an assignment, it's gonna tear.
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You're gonna pull in two different ways.
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Being not unequally yoked is the picture of two animals
yoked together by the neck, walking at the same pace
in the same direction, plowing a field, pushing ahead.
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Do not be unequally yoked. Don't mean both y'all gotta
be saved.
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Both y'all gotta be fis you can be saved fildoligos
and be unequally yoked. It means do y'all walk at
the same pace? Are y'all on the same purpose? Do
you have the same passion? Are you puffshit for the
same mission? Because if those elements are not in place,
you can be in love, love, love all you want.
Eventually there's gonna be a tear. There's a lot of
people that's in love, they don't like who they're with.
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There's a lot of people that's attracted, but they do
not share an assignment. And in some regards, we have
to understand what the big picture is so that we
can help push. So you don't mute your You don't
mute who you are as a person, and I don't
try to mute you.
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If we're if.
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We're aligned, If we're aligned, I amplify you. If we're aligned,
you become more I become more quen we together than
we are when we.
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What are some real leugh examples of being aligned and
working in assignment, like maybe even in your lives, like
what is what is something?
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How can we see this? You know visually realistically?
Speaker 5 (05:41):
So I think with my husband what he what he
has said in the past, in regards to marriages, is
like even in regards to our friends, you know, we
would say he would say, you know, what is what
is the man doing? Like if he has a business
and you have your you know, you have your own
thing as a wife, you work at a corporate job
or whatever. You have to make sure that if your
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husband has something that he's doing that as his wife,
you're helping in some way some fashion, or you're using
your expertise to make certain things administrated, something something that
says that we are working in partnership. So I can
use us as an example. Oh yeah, right, getting away
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of what he's doing. So you know, I knew that
I could marry him because I saw what his goals
and his values were on paper. I was looking over
his shoulder, he was looking at his goals and his values,
and in that moment, I saw that some of the
same things that he wanted in life were some of
the exact same things that I wanted in life.
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It wasn't predicated on him.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
It was predicated on what I knew my assignment was
and what I knew my purpose was, and he I
would not lose myself by marrying him. I was going
to ten times myself because we had the same interest
and have the same desire and basically understood our assignments
individually so that we could come together and to see
where we could fit in so that we could move
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it faster. So it's like, with all of that being said,
you just have to know you have to know yourself first,
and then you can't It's not enough to just hook
up with somebody for the sake of hooking up. But
what is it that we are both called to do
that we feel that we can do it together.
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I'll take it another step and pivot.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Also that we are both first borns with both oldest grandchildren.
About what ten years into our marriage, we came to
a point where we're pretty we're pretty self sufficient, we're
pretty strong, we know how to do a lot of
the same and similar things. We have the same interest
and we had to come to the realization that in
our marriage that we weren't interdependent on each other and
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enough we were like we needed to find a space
where we could need each other and become vulnerable and
create space for the other person to help.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I could cook, you could cook, I could clean. You
could clean. I could wash my clothes you could wash
your clothes, We could do it ourselves.
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So how do we create space where we need each
other so we're not just roommates, so we're not just
living and here it is. We're an autopilot because we
know what it is. And so we had to have
this vulnerable conversation where we created room and space for
the other person to be involved in our lives so
that we could need each other in a healthy way,
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not in a needy way, but in a healthy way
where where I could desire support. And then early on
in our marriage, I think because I came to the
marriage which we you know, while the two were becoming one,
we both came to the marriage with such a such
an ecosystem of how we do things that you know,
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my wife always had a desire to help and to
support me. She didn't always know how to help and
support me, so I had to show her how to do.
So there's times in our marriage where I've been frustrated,
like feeling like I was carrying it all or doing
it all and.
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She wasn't helping me. And she was like, well, what
does that look like?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Like?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
How do I support you in this space?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You got this person for this, you got this for this,
this person do that, that person do that.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I don't know where to get in at And I'm like,
you know what, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You know I got a whole staff, I got a
whole violence, I got all these people around me. So
how do I now create space and tell you what's
important for me? What?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
How do you want to help? And what can I delegate?
And where do you want to jump in?
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So it's just a lot of nuances, and over all
the phases of our marriage, we've had multiple conversations about
both helping one another, allowing the other person to help,
and then figuring out what support looks like.
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And I think people need to have those conversations.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
That's pretty good allowing allowing.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
That people don't want to allow you to help you, because.
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Then I need you exactly because wrong.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Then I created a space where now.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
I got to figure out how to do it. If
you don't just don't work right. So people don't make
they don't make that kind of space for their spouse
where you could cripple me. But that's what you that's
what it is.
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Really Being in love is like, man, I'd have built
my life so around you that the two become one
that if this rip apart, you're gonna take a part
of me with you no matter where you go. A
lot of people, a lot of people aren't married. They're
not married to the point where if you take if
you take yourself and I take myself, you take a
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part of me with you.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Relationship Talk Thursday. Here's the power couple.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
And what I have seen over the years is your
prayer life as a woman. Your prayer life, to me,
dictates the temperament of your household, the profit, the prophetic
voice for your house, for your children though the individuals
that God has assigned to your life, like laboring and
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praying for them is just a major, major gift. And
when I feel when things are just going haywire in
your household as a woman, I think you have to
check your prayer life. You'll realize that I'm not praying
as much and I'm not taking I'm not taking those
things to God. I'm stressed out because I'm trying to
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carry them. I'm trying to be the little g in
the whole household versus giving them to God. Because as
a woman, you have a discernment, you have you can
look at things that are not there, but you can
see it in certain people and certain things.
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In certain situations.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
God shows you stuff before it happens, and instead of
always having to talk about it, sometimes that's just what
you need to rap in prayer. So, I mean, I
know all of the other things are great and everything
like that, but I would have to say the one
thing that I can definitely say that woman brings to
the table as a wife and as a mother is
her prayer life. If she has one, and if you
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don't have one, you need to get one, because I
just you know, I might.
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Be a little biased about that.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I love being a woman, and I believe God, not
that he don't hear man's prayer. I don't.
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I'm not saying that.
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But if you look, he hears He exactly hears. He
hears a woman's prayer differently because she was made out
of man.
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She was the internal part of man.
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So she recorrect, she reconnects herself back to God as
as the original form when she gets in prayer.
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That's her communion with God. A man, everything is outside
of him. That brings production and that brings life. Everything
aside of a woman is internal. And so when you yes,
so She's entering into a space and a place with
God that a man can go to, but it might
take him a little longer to get there. She instantly
can just get there because she already is internal with God,
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the Lord.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's relationship talk Thursday. I'm so yill with the Glenn's
passage of own and Erica Glenn, a man can't go
on alone.
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Your presence unlocks his potential. Let's talk about prayer. I
know past Erica was talking about it. You know, the
power of a woman's intercession in marriage, but praying together,
as we're talking about, you know, a man can't do
it a loan, but but together, the power of prayer.
What role does that play in a marriage? To praying together?
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I know you have your separate time.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, if any two should touch and agree, you don't.
I mean, if you and your wife have a prayer life,
you can you can do anything. If any too should
touch and agree as touching anything, it shall be established.
So if you two need anything, all you have to
do is touch and agree with each other. If no
one else agrees with you in the entire work, God
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made a promise that if y'all agree, the whole world
has to respond to your agreement. That's the power of agreement,
that's the power of alignment, that's the power of intercession.
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Together. Just touch and agreed.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Just be in enough alignment with your spouse that you
can that you can decide a thing and decree a
thing and agree in prayer, and God himself will do
it anything for you.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I think another the flip side of this is that
when you as a woman, we talked about power, dominion
and all of those things. If you're having a conversation
with your husband and you don't agree with him, y'all
can talk it out and all that other kind of stuff.
And you go into this place and you have this
conversation or whatever, but you don't agree with him. When
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you get on the same page with him.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You have stated this is why I feel this way,
this is whatever, whatever. But when we walk out of
this room, we are standing in the power of agreement.
There are things that God is going to do for
that man and for your relationship because you agreed.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
And I think people just marriages, just do not realize
that when you make a decision, When you make a
decision and you're on the same page, you have invited
God to do the supernatural.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
A lot of problems will go away if people just
pray together. Don't have to be loan, don't have to
be deep and agree, just pray.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
But yes, that's my definition of prayer.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
You can't you can't pray if y'all don't agree.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
So, and that's why people don't pray, because if there's
disagreement happening, then this unity discord is not going to
create any opportunity for you to walk in agreement. Agreement
is an accelerant, so people can just if people a
lot of problems will go away and people just learn
to pray together.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's been a great conversation on this relationship truck Thursday
with pastors Damone and Erica Glenn. Any thoughts on our
topic today. A man can't do it alone. Your presence
unlocks his potential. Any thoughts, Maybe y'all want to break
this prayer noise and is stick up in there right now?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's just some guys out here way you know, for nothing.
You know, you dating the girl, you love her, You
see her, she got the good, she did. What it is,
just make a decision, man, pick the woman of God.
Make the choice and build with her. There are some
things God is withholding from you until you if it's
your desire to be married, until you make a decision
to be married. So I just pray that God give
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you the courage to make the decision that you know
you need to make and quit avoiding, and that God
gives you peace in your decision making, and if she's
not the one, that you don't waste your time or hers,
and that He gives you the courage to even walk
away from that. But there's some decisions to be made.
That's me is on the other side, the decision that
you've been avoiding. So I just pray that you have
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what it takes to do what you need
Speaker 2 (16:42):
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