Tinfoil Swans

Tinfoil Swans

Food & Wine has led the conversation around food, drinks, and hospitality in America and around the world since 1978. Tinfoil Swans continues that legacy with intimate, informative, surprising, and uplifting conversations with the biggest names in the culinary industry and beyond, sharing never-before-heard stories about the successes, struggles, and fork-in-the-road moments that made them who they are today. You'll hear from icons and innovators like Daniel Boulud, Padma Lakshmi, Tristen Epps, and Maneet Chauhan, going deep on their formative experiences, the dishes and meals that made them, their joys, doubts and dreams, and what's still on the menu ahead. Tune in for a feast that'll feed your brain and soul — and plenty of wisdom and quotable morsels to savor later. New episodes every Tuesday.

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August 4, 2026 48 mins
When Vikas Khanna was growing up in a small town in India, he was bullied by the other children for wearing braces on his legs and not being able to play like them. But his grandmother and sister saw him for who he truly was: a lion. They brought him into the kitchen, and he roared to life. An extraordinary life at that, where he makes movies, writes books, feeds millions of hungry people, and runs Bungalow — the most watched...
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Patrick O'Connell has spent nearly five decades building The Inn at Little Washington into one of America's most celebrated restaurants. At the age of 80, he is finally sharing his story in the memoir, Main, Middle & Gay. In this conversation, he shares the childhood experiences that shaped his lifelong pursuit of beauty, opening a restaurant as half of a gay couple in rural Virginia, finding his place among the misfits and odd...
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Chef and Food Network star Ayesha Nurdjaja shares how one Lidia Bastianich recipe steered her away from law school to the kitchens of Felidia, A Voce, Artisanal, and then her own restaurants Shuka, and Shukette. She opens up about defying her family's expectations, breaking the cycle of toxic kitchen culture, the realities of running restaurants, her new cookbook Mediterranean All the Way, and why her goal is to become a legend. ...
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When Daniel Patterson and Sarah Lewitinn (a.k.a. Ultragrrrl) went on their first Hinge date, neither of them was in a great place. No one was, really, because it was in January of 2021. Daniel is an acclaimed chef who'd just been through a divorce and couldn't be in his natural habitat of restaurants. Sarah had spent her whole life in the music industry and found herself burned out — not even able to enjoy listening to bands ...
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Aaron Franklin, the Hot Luck Festival founder and James Beard Award-winning pitmaster behind Franklin Barbecue, talks about the long road from tinkering with guitars at his grandparents' music shop and playing punk shows to teaching himself brisket on a $99 backyard smoker. He shares stories of the warmth and support of Austin community that helped turn backyard barbecues into a national pilgrimage site, the exhaustion and family s...
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With her shows Pati's Mexican Table and La Frontera and cookbooks Treasures of the Mexican Table and Mexican Today, Pati Jinich uses her exceptional empathy, political science background, and fearless curiosity to share the stories of the people living, creating, and cooking all around Mexico, and celebrate our shared humanity. For the Season 2 finale, Jinich joined Tinfoil Swans to talk about learning English by watching Sesame St...
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When Arjav Ezekiel arrived in America at age 12, the first person he met was Simpsons creator Matt Groening. Years later, after navigating life as an undocumented immigrant, he would help build Birdie's in Austin, Texas, into one of the country's most celebrated restaurants. He reflects on the burden of keeping secrets, the people he calls his "guardian angels," why making people feel seen has become the foundation of his work with...
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Over the course of three months, Cybille St. Aude-Tate and Omar Tate met, got married, and started the project of Honeysuckle. It's one of the most ambitious and personal restaurant projects in America right now, with a mission of preserving Black history, honoring Haitian and African American foodways, and creating a welcoming to all space where guests can encounter stories, traditions, and people who have too often been left out ...
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Scott Conant wanted to be a plumber, but getting shut out of a vocational school class set him down a different path. The 2004 Food & Wine Best New Chef and Food Network star reveals the exact dish that convinced him to devote himself to Italian cooking, the emotional fan encounters — from a grieving mother to a man struggling to stay alive — that reshaped how he thinks about television fame, how the best thing he's...
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2021 Food & Wine Best New Chef Fermín Núñez grew up moving between Mexico and the United States, never quite feeling like he belonged in either place. He reflects on navigating life between cultures, the years he spent undocumented in America, and why he once went by “Leo” before learning to embrace his own name. He also shares the path that took him from dreams of film school to opening Austin’s acclaimed Sue...
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In the 10 years since Cody Rigsby joined Peloton as an instructor, the former McDonald's drive-thru worker, backup dancer, and cater waiter's life has changed in unimaginable ways. He's competed on Dancing with the Stars, written the bestselling memoir XOXO, Cody, and built a massive fanbase of indoor cyclists who are as invested in his hot takes on ranch dressing and snacks as they are in his cardio-challenging HIIT and hills ride...
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Australian food icon Donna Hay joins Tinfoil Swans to discuss the evolution of home cooking, the emotional weight of becoming a brand, and why you shouldn't trust bad internet recipes. Plus: Her new cookbook Sunshine, Lemons and Sea Salt, battling nerves, and an Australian food slang crash course. Visit foodandwine.com/tinfoilswans for more Episode Art Courtesy of Food & Wine / Chris Court and Con Poulos Learn more about ...
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Flavor scientist and Flavorama author Dr. Arielle Johnson charts her path from fashion-focused teen to being the go-to food nerd for Noma and Alton Brown. She unpacks the neuroscience of taste and memory, explains why certain foods trigger powerful emotional reactions (like a potential “Dorito of sadness”), and explores how flavor can be engineered to shape how we feel. Visit foodandwine.com/tinfoilswans for more ...
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1990 F&W Best New Chef Nancy Silverton recounts growing up craving white bread and sugary cereal while her mother served spanakopita and beef bourguignon, how a college crush led her to a dorm kitchen where she first realized she wanted to cook for a living, the moment at Chez Panisse that defined her food philosophy, her insistence on simplicity over trends, and why even after decades of acclaim, she still feels like an impost...
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Cooking the Borderlands author and chef Claudette Zepeda opens up about growing up in Tijuana learning English from PBS shows, being told she’d “never make it” as a chef while pushing a newborn in a stroller, and why she relies on her inner "chaos demon." She shares how a trip to Morocco reignited her creative spark, why she and her cooks chant “You’re doing it, Peter” in the kitchen, what it too...
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Legendary chef Wolfgang Puck opens up about leaving an abusive home at 14, finding refuge in a pastry kitchen, and getting his first real validation from a mentor. From taking a Greyhound bus to Indianapolis expecting it to be like Monaco, getting life advice from Elton John and Mick Jagger, and building Spago with an open kitchen that changed dining culture, he reflects on cooking for celebrities and royalty — and why he say...
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Chef Paul Carmichael traces his path from a teenage cook in Barbados to the chef behind Kabawa, which Food & Wine recently named the best restaurant in the U.S. He opens up about feeling like an impostor in top kitchens, the mentors (like Wylie Dufresne, Marcus Samuelsson, and David Chang) who shaped him, and the turning point that led him to “burn clean” and build a restaurant rooted in purpose, not pressure. Vi...
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April 7, 2026 44 mins
What does it mean to “repaint” the world more truthfully and joyfully? Bridgerton and You, Me & Tuscany star Regé-Jean Page traces his path from a spider-fearing, Indiana Jones–loving kid in Zimbabwe to an actor determined to enrich how and for whom we see love, travel, and culture depicted on screen. He shares vivid memories of childhood meals eaten by hand around a fire, why moving to the UK pushed him to fi...
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On the 25th anniversary of his groundbreaking restaurant Craft, and 20th anniversary of Top Chef, Tom Colicchio reflects on his path from teenage short-order cook to one of the defining figures in American dining. He opens up about ADHD, a dangerous road not taken, a surprise appearance by a Jacques Pépin cookbook, the moment he chose cooking over everything else, and why he’s now pushing for better work-life balance in resta...
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Season 4 of Tinfoil Swans returns March 31 with an all-star lineup of culinary icons, storytellers, and industry trailblazers. Hosted by Kat Kinsman, this award-winning podcast goes beyond food to explore the personal journeys behind the people shaping what and how we eat. This season features powerful conversations with legends like Wolfgang Puck, Claudette Zepeda, and Tom Colicchio. Expect laughter, vulnerability, and hard-earned...
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