2021 Week 11 Recap

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Be Around the NFL. Podcast is the Mike McCarthy on
time management from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around
the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas. I'm with heroes, Greg Rosenthal
and Mark Sessler, the three of us, along with Ricky Hollywood.

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She got her credential. We're at Sophie Stadium about an
hour ago watching the Steelers Chargers clash and uh, I
hate to say Greggy, but we blew it in a
big spot. We leave. I'm looking at the game summary here,
and we're gonna get to all the games. Uh. Week

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eleven played Sunday in just a bit, but we leave.
At thirty t Austin Ekeler goes in from five yards
out seven place, seventy five yards to seven possession. It
was like, oh, Pittsburgh, They're just never gonna get a stop.
As soon as we leave the building, we get Pittsburgh
Steelers five yard touchdown pass thirty four um No. We

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get a Eric Ebron touchdown nine place, seventy five yards.
We get an interception by the Chargers Pat Friar Muth
five yards, uh touchdown two yards to plays eleven yards
thirty four Boswell forty five yard field goal after an
interception that went off of a helmet four. There was

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a block punt earlier, we did see that. And then
a classic ending for the Chargers and their fans. There
weren't a lot of them in that building, but a
classic ending. And we're gonna get to all of it.
But Mark, you know we left before the classic part
of the game entered the equation. I know you were
upset seal those Steelers fans. Uh sad at the end
of the game and miss out on that. Did get
to see Kim Hayward punch Justin Herbert on the ground. Um,

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that's when I decided to leave at one point. I
mean it was I remember growing up. I used to
get on this one kid because he had a story
that he and his dad left Game six of Mets
Red sox um when he was a youth. I was like,
you you don't. I would never myself do that. Well,
I'm not saying it's the equal because the stakes weren't
even remotely close, but uh, my car, and it's not

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our team and we were coming back to recorda show.
That's true, But I would just say that it's the
first time I've ever found myself in this situation where
like theatrics and amazing moments happened after I was not
in the bad, very very I came very close to
going back into the building because we had the press pass,
but I couldn't get any internal support. Well, I don't
know if you have, we could have gotten in this

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same day. The thing that was crazy about it though,
is we left during the Steelers touchdown drive which made
it thirty seven thirty four to twenty seven, so that
that drive started with under nine minutes to go. We
were watching on TV here and that drive wasn't over yet.
That's how close we are to get it back. That
we got back within a four minute drive from the

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game from the press box two here. That was taken
in a private helicopter from the press box to or
the It's an amazing thing. The stadium was amazing, And yeah,
like Chargers fans get a lot of grief because fans
come in and take their stadium number one. A lot
of Steelers fans were walking out with us when we

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left when they were down by two touchdowns. So bad
job by you guys, because your team went and took
a lead later on and then second of all the
atmosphere where there's two different fan bases cheering, like, Okay,
that's not great if you're a Chargers fan, but it's
pretty cool, Like it's the Chargers fans were still loud
in there and the Steelers fans were loud, and like,

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as someone who's not a fan of either, it's just
like it was a it's a cool atmosphere. All right.
Let's okay start going through the games, and we'll start
with the game that we were at but missed out
all the fun on. Let's head to Sofi Stadium with
the great Matt Money spent on the call. Here comes

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the blitz throw outside the numbers, caught side Mike Williams,
Cardinals into the end side Chargers fifty three yards. How
bong goes right out the gate. And I want Money
to know because Money listens to the show and he

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is the voice of God for the Round the NFL podcast,
and the voice of the Chargers is that we got
back here late. And I said, hey, we gotta get
the money call, not the Westwood one call, not the
al Michaels called the money call. And Ricky and Grave
Digger said it's gonna be an extra ten minutes or so,
and I said, it's worth it. He's the voice of God.
And that's one of the big plays and recent Chargers history.

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Justin Herbert to Mike Williams from for fifty three yards.
It is the game winning score. One of the craziest
games of the season. Seven the Chargers beat the Steelers,
a game that featured twenty seven points from the Steelers
in the fourth quarter, many of them coming after we
had left the building. Mark A game that looked like

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it was in the Steelers back pocket. They let it
uh in the Charges back pocket. The Steelers storm back,
but somehow l A finds a way. Sissler, Well, I'm
stunned by what we watched. Although I mean, I feel
like if someone told me before the game, will this
thing go down to the end because it is the Chargers,
I would have said yes. But I mean to think
that the Steelers are oh and two hundred and thirty

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this stunning stat when trailing by seventeen in the fourth
quarter of games that they climbed back out of it.
I did that. That thing threw me right there. But
it was a series of Chargers mistakes that opened the door.
And then at the end, because I think their offense
had been so hot all night long. At one point
it was like four hundred and something yards too, about
a hundred and seventy for the Steelers. They were moving
the ball at will. Justin Herbert was running wild on them,

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and it was a very Chargers esque almost ending, and
they climbed their way out of it. I mean, the
Chargers scored on their first five possessions, but in in
weird Charges fashion, they actually had more possessions in the
fourth quarter then they did in the first three combined,
and that included the block punt. We did see that, Danny.
I mean we didn't miss everything. We saw some dimes

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from Justin Herbert. I mean the the throw that he
had to alan in the first quarter, like the whole shot,
and then the thirty yard baby down the field and
the third quarter like those are amazing to see live.
Then you got an interception of Flukey play off a helmet,
you go for it on fourth down in your own end,
and when they didn't get it, this is the moment
where the Steelers have a chance to go win the game,

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put a touchdown in. You know, this is the moment
where you say, like if Herbert doesn't win this game.
This is catastrophic. He's got to go down and make
a drive. And he had a chance to make a
drive because the Steelers went three and out right after
they didn't get the fourth down, So that that's part
of the reason why you go for the fourth down,
because your defense can pick you up. They did, and

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then instead of everything crumbling like you said it would have,
and that this was a big moment in Chargers history,
that Herbert was gonna become part of Chargers like like
lower in terms of being cursed, he didn't do it well. Yes,
what I said before the mic wet to play was
with the world falling down and forty five thousand Steelers
fans waving towels in l A going nuts, if the

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Chargers blew this game in front of Al Chris Michelle
in the world and Herbert was right in the middle
of it, even if he had played a good game overall,
a great game overall, to me, it's like he's part
of this now. He's part of all of this Chargers pain,
and it's very real. And any Charger fan, no matter
where you are in the country, uh knows that. And
yet I thought that was like kind of like the

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big overarching story is that Justin Herbert uh and I
know it was a busted coverage by Pittsburgh, and Collinsworth
pointed it out correctly that there's no way you have
a busted coverage in that spot on the Williams TV
if Mickay Fitzpatrick was playing. And there's so many big
time players with the Steelers that were out, including t J.
Watt and Joe Hayden uh and fits Patrick uh. So

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the fact that they were almost able to come back
and win really is a testament. And Big Ben played
well in this game. But to me, Justin Herbert's ability
to say no, no, no, no, screw all that the
ghosts of the past, screw the fact that there are
forty five thousand people from Pennsylvania ready to party in
our building. I Am going to make sure we leave
a winner. And if you're charges man, you just have

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to be pinching yourself that you have somebody who has
that power. And I mean, Justin Herbert all night long
was showing us who he was, and it was you know,
it's his arm, it's the dimes he threw. I was
just so impressed with how he kept fileting the Steelers
on the ground ninety yards off nine carries, so many
of those that move the chains, and the Steelers climbing

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back in. I mean, it was it wasn't I want
to call it flukey, because they made the plays they
needed to play. But they had a touchdown drive that
was eleven yards, a field goal drive that was seven
and it's other touchdown drive with the net yards of
three yards. I mean, it's like they were they were
just setting. They were put in position to climb back
into this thing in a flukey way, and the Chargers,

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their offense, which had been cooking all game long, answered
when they needed to. You're right, he would have been
baked in justin Herbert into that scenari that the Charges
were lost something like thirty four games in the in
this scenario in the fourth quarter since two thousand and eleven,
and that did there have been one of those this year,
but you know under in past years there were multiple.
He is not part of that story. He is not well.

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He was a little bit last year. They were cursed,
but they finished wrong. Both these teams need to evolve
or they're not gonna go anywhere They're They're flawed teams
right now, but we've seen that teams can change during
the season. This was Ben's best game of the season,
so it once they get their defensive players back. That's
something good to feel about this Chargers defense, though, is

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it's a problem Herbert though three two and ninety No
one's ever put up that in the history of the
NFL three that many yards throwing and that many yards rushing.
There you go, I mean, I do it gets important.
There's no there's no wat in this game. There's no
make of Fitzpatrick. I think there were plays where it
had make of Fitzpatrick been in the in the game,
it would have been very different for the Chargers. But

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every team's dealing with that. Uh. And we will see
where the Steelers go from here. Again, they there are
five four and one. They had the embarrassing tie last week.
They really fought their butts off to get back into
this game. But you know, at the end of the day,
they're cooked into that the mediocre stew that has become
the a f C North. So they still have a
chance to make a playoff runs. The Chargers due too,

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But you're right right, neither of these teams are perfect
neither of these teams profile is a true Super Bowl contender.
But look at the rest of the league right now.
There you can look at any team really and say
not a true Super Bowl team. Well, there's gonna be
two teams playing in the Super Bowl. Um. Great game
in Austin. Ekeler by the way, four touchdowns this night.
It's nice to be at a football game altogether. I

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know we were there in London, but it wasn't wasn't
the whole group, and this was this was our first
game together since since we were off. We saw last
Super Bowl and with that the Chiefs one. When we
saw David Justice, we saw Snoop Dogg, we saw Mike Tyson.
I mean, I thought, think there was a lot of
stuff happening outside of the tick tack of the game.
I mean, there's a lot of visual there's a visual feast.

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Great stadium. Um, that was a lot of fun, even
if we blew it anyway, there are more games to
get to. So Ricky, let us roll up nine yard
field goal to win the game against the eight and
jew Packers, right ash or Joseph snappy jump. He woke

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up on the green day Packers kid him Joseph Paul
Allen with a call k f A and Justin Jefferson
went off again eight for one, sixty nine and two touches,
and Greg Joseph Booda that twenty nine yard field goals
time expired to give the Vikings a thirty four thirty

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one win over the Packers. Just the classic back and
forth game, two division rivals that hate each other. Who
loved it, loved this game? You're a Vikings fan at
this point. I think we that's made clear to the listeners.
The team of Zeus Steel and I said on Thursday,
I thought the Vikings are gonna win this game because

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they are a real deal team. They are a team
that can let you down. They could go lay an
egg in the next game. That would not surprise me either.
But when they are playing well, they can beat anybody
in the league. And a lot of that goes back
to their offense and when Justin Jefferson is being used
in the right way as he's been used these last
two weeks and Kirk, when Kirk Cousins is playing at

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a level, Greg, do you know the stat I believe
it is d y a R Yeah, yards over replacement
basically about he is second in the NFL. Now, Kirk Cousins,
and that's that. I mean, he is having an incredible scene.
I mean the stat that he has literally the highest
completion percentage since next Gen Stats has kept track of
it on throws over ten yards is out rageous in

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the last five years Kirk Cousins seasons right now, that's
down the field throws. It's not those things and done.
So what's happening here is that Cousins is playing better
than ever. Jefferson is arguably, I think the best wide
receiver in football. You have the best second Banana and
Adam Feeling and then Dalvin Cook and it was just
a great game. And Aaron Rodgers played brilliantly as well

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on the other side of the football. Um and it
just came down to Minnesota got the ball last, and
they made the kick and went home. And afterwards Mike
Zimmer uh he you know, he's sick of this. The
Vikings have held a lead of at least seven or
more points in every game this year, and all of
their games have been decided by one score. It's taking
years off the man's life. And you can hear it

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in his press conferences Sundays are not fun. You know,
they say Sunday's Funday and it's not. It's not at all.
I mean, like, I'm sorry, but Mike Zimmer has never
participated in what we would call is Sunday Fundays. Sunday
is Funday. Doesn't even if they say then though, who
says that? Did they say Sundays fun day? I don't know,
but you know, I think Zimmers our spirit animal animal

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a little bit, and Ricky, we should trim that, take
that drop for the future because that was fun anyway,
great game, Like I said, Rogers Cousins going at it
back and forth before the game winning kicked Greg for
the Vikings. It was Rogers with a beautiful rainbow strike
to m VS for seventy five yards. It was just

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that type of game. You know, you scored too quick.
You don't want to give Cure Cousins that much time.
It's for real when he gets a chance to put
them in position to win. This year, almost every time
he's done it. One thing that struck me just statistically
is the Packers pressured Cousins on over of his throws,

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which is a really high number. So for Cousins who
after the game said that maybe he was even a
little too aggressive, and he got away with something was like,
don't think that, Kirk. This this Kirk that we've seen
the last two especially where you've been so aggressive, is
why you've won these games. Well, it's two weeks in
a row where you know, again we all have Vikings
friends that are fans and there they've been out of

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their minds. They've closed games two weeks throw. This is
a as big as it gets for them, and I
like the Packers come out of it banged up. Elton Jenkins.
They think he might have torn his a c L.
That's a huge loss for them. Aaron Rodgers has this
toe injury that he said it is worse than turn
do we have Rogers. Let's see Rodgers at XU. This
is notable. Yeah, I mean it's very, very painful. We

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got stepped on in the first half and that kind
of activated all the symptoms I was having. So just
give me another painful week next week, and then hopefully
started to feel a little better than by do you man,
you ever like walk in the middle of the night
through your house, like bang your big toe on like
the edge of a door. I want to punch someone
in the head when that happens, like this is three
times ten times worse than that day. We'll see he
was moving well in this game, and he actually threw

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four touchdown passes, all on green Bay's final form possessions.
So this might got to watch it, but it's up
there as the best game the Packers offense has had
all year. They were great, and they didn't even you know,
it's funny because you a J. Dill and all the
talk around him, he didn't really they never really gave
him a chance to get things going. He but he

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was active. He was active in the passing game, so
he he had a role with it. But it was
really you know, Davante Adams, Aaron Rodgers being unstoppable, mvs.
Making a big play down the field. So I'm not
worried about their offense, but it does remind you again
because we and we all talked up Green Bay's defense
over the past three weeks or so. It's like even
the defenses that we decided a quote unquote good, then

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the game comes like this, like, oh, well, you know,
any week, they're good for like six days while we
talked them up, and then they get wax It's good
for this division though, because it brings it, it makes
it ten times more interesting. All right, let us uh
move on. So the Vikings they get a big win,
and now we head to Arrowhead where the Cowboys were

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looking to make a statement. Four man rush Chiefs pushed
the pocket again. They hit Prescott, sack Prescott five sack
performance by the Chiefs. Chris Jones that is his fourth
sack of this game. Mitch hold us what they called
w d a f They gave him credible half sack there,

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which come on, when you have a game like Chris
Jones had on Sunday, you give him the full sack.
The other guy will understand. Chris Jones finished with three
and a half. He forced the fumble, also recovered another
tre various white Lagarius Snead both intercepted Dak Prescott and
big points of the game and the a f C
West leading Chief's role nineteen nine over the Cowboys. Greg

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we all expected, all right, let's admit it. We hoped
for an epic shootout. Instead, Casey's fast improving defense did
the heavy lifting. It was a shocking game, shocking final
nineteen to nine in chief Cowboys deck was out of it,
miss throws, discombobulated, Steve Spagnola blitz them uh into Smith reens.

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They didn't have Tyrann Smith in this game. Their left
tackle Amari Cooper of course got covid then Ceedee Lamb
left at halftime. But it was ugly in the first
half two So you can't just you can't just put
it on the injuries. It was the Chiefs defense. And
again you give them so much praise. I'm not saying
it's gonna happen week after week, but they were just aggressive.

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They were open field tackling. Like I said, they were blitzing.
He got blitzed, I think on fourteen different throws, and
he ended up with fifty four yards in an interception
on those throws. And usually Dak Prescott's kind of known
as the guy who kills the blitz. So it was
an unconventional strategy. And on a day where Patrick mahomes
basically at the same stat line as all those games

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where everyone were killing the Chief's offense, he ends up
with two d and sixty yards in a pick on
thirty seven attempts to pick. Was flukey. Uh. The Chiefs
win going away, and you never really felt that it
was that close because the Chiefs defense and especially Chris
Jones just gave it to him over and over. I
don't know what to think. I mean, it must have
been frustrating as a Cowboys fan when you're trying to

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get back in this game and the offense, Dallas offense,
because the d played well uh for the Cowboys, so
they kept on giving the ball back to Doak and
sending them back on the fields, like, all right, come on,
get going, get us back in this game, take a lead,
go win the game. But then when you lose seed
ceedee Lamb when you have a Mark Coover, by the way,
was not vaccinated. So not only is he out this game,

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he's missing Thanksgiving, he's killing his team. Um. You find
the Cowboys having to targets Cedric Wilson over and over again,
trying to mount to come back. Michael Galb, who was
on I R is now your number one wide receiver,
and it just felt like they were a little shorthanded
when they really needed to be explosive. It's just like
this is now to two out of three weeks where
the Cowboys are looking very human. Um, and if you're

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a Cowboy van, you're a little bit nervous. You never
want to peak too early. Did the Cowboys peak? I'm
not there yet, but it's just it's on the radar.
Radar after the last three or they're like eight of
the league, which is going to give you an inconsistent product.
That's just fine with that. I did not know what.
I was not ready to believe in Kansas City's defense.

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They gave up seventeen to the Giants, seven to a
Jordan's Love led Packers team. Throw that out out the
window and that wipe out against the Raiders. This this,
I buy into this. I realized Dallas was down guys,
but they just seemed to have their active That's a
full month of games right there where they aren't the
mess they were early on in the season. To me,
I buy that. And for Dallas, like I, I don't

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care about the Broncos game, but it's two of three
weeks with shaky results. But they played three games in
twelve games in twelve days, and to not have a
Mari Cooper for two of them as a killer Tyrone
Smith I think is the most important of all of them.
But we will see. If it looked like Lamb was
getting his head checked out. Maybe it was a concussion.
It sounded like, uh, that's a problem. They have the

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Raiders on Thanksgiving. We'll get into that during the week.
But I think some of the Chiefs defensive resurgence is
sustainable because a bags does this year after year where
they start slow and they finish strongk and then be
Melvin Ingram was a nice pickup. He's made plays in
these games. They've put Chris Jones at defensive tackle again
instead of having him on the end, and he was
dominant in this game. And Frank Clark has been good

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for three straight weeks. So suddenly your two best players
are playing like the guys you're paying the twenty million
dollars a year for, and like that sustainable those guys
can keep winning and that even though I I pointed
out the box score look the same and the final
score was the same, the Chiefs did start this game
with you know, seventeen points in their first three drives
and made big plays when they needed to. I don't
think it was a terrible offensive performance either. Maybe what

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ultimately like right now in the NFL, what it means
to have a good defense is to have a defense
that can carry you for a stretch of time like
two or three weeks or even a month when your
offense isn't quite right, and they can get you some
wins that you would lose typically because as there are
just a lot of dominant defenses in the league right now,
and and a dominant player for the Cowboys is Micah Parsons,
who has that defensive Brookie of the Year locked up.

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He was unstoppable in this game. Two sacks, forced to fumble, um.
He was a big time player in this I love
that theory because we keep propping up defense A, B
and C during the week, and if we if the
expectation is we really are only saying they'll be good
for about a fortnite, then we're off that. Like we
look up at it, Well, it's like a matchup thing too. Yeah,

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like they're capable of carrying you, but they're not gonna
do it a you. Parsons had more pressures, by the way,
in this game. I think that then it was a
PF stat than any player ever or something like that,
or a certain amount of years. It was over twelve.
He was at twelve and he got the thirteen or
fourteen pressures in one game. I believe the Chiefs are
held to two seventy six yards. Uh? Wait was that

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and the only scored the Chiefs had the ball. To
your point about keep getting the ball back after they
scored sixteen points because of a missed extra point in
the first three drives, they go punt, punt, fumble, interception, punt,
field goal, miss field goal, punt. So the Cowboys defense
did what they could to keep this assistant Coach of
the Year candidates. The Cowboys were held to two seventy

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six yards. This is the high scoring offense in the league,
held to five or fifteen on third down. They need
to get healthy. Uh, and Dak has to play a
little bit better. So uh they're they're slept. They gotta
get it together. Fissures in the locker room. Now let's
take a break. He's gonna turn give off the Jonathan

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Taylor showed up at the one forward. There's five number five.
Jonathan Taylor has held the inch sold five times in
the game and the Colts have six more on the board.
It is thirty seven to seven. Who Joey Lawrence and Blossom?
Whoam Matt Taylor? Rick vent Terry? The call for w

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f N I Jonathan Taylor said, a franchise record with
five touchdowns, and he took over the NFL lead in
both yards rushing and TVs. And the Colts route the
spiraling Buffalo Bills in Orchard Park. It doesn't matter anymore,
but it was in Buffalo. You should know that, Shookie.

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We welcome him aboard. Now the pipe joins us. The
Colts looked like the better team from the kickoff in
this game, and Jonathan Taylor has just entered into the
m v P chat. Don't you agree? Yeah? I would
absolutely agree. I mean, you're the rushing leader and you're
doing it with emphasis, and I think no more emphatic
than this game today. And you know the Colts, they
got off the bus ready to play. It was clear

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in their first drive. They went eleven place for sixty
five yards Captain with a Taylor touchdown. They get a
turnover and they turn that into another touchdown via pass.
They punched the Bills in the mouth. They proved to
them that going to Orchard Park not scare them. Playing
an inclement weather did not scare them because they have
right now the NFL's best running back in terms of
overall rushing yards in Jonathan Taylor, who was the engine

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that powered them offensively with his five touchdowns, and really
the Bills had no answer. I mean for the entire game,
they had no answer. It's not even that their offense
couldn't keep up. Defensively, they could not stop Jonathan Taylor,
who has been this type of running back for a
lot of this year. But we are going to look
at his season and think of a game quicker than
this one because of how he did it. He ripped
off long runs, he scored in goal to ghost situations,

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he caught passes, he did everything that was asked of him.
It's the next step in what I think is um
a progression in his career. It's still very early, of course,
but it started in the second half of last year
where he started to build this positive momentum. He's carried
it over into this year and he's developed himself more
as a back. He's not just a downhill runner who
who's capable of ripping off a long run. He's a

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guy you have to account for on every down, and
the Bills simply did not do that defensively today. Josh
Allen also had a rough day. A couple interst options
that were ugly and they had no answer for them
when they had the ball, and that's how you get
a blowout. I mean to Dan's question, and this is
more about the Bills and they're up and down struggles
on offense. But wouldn't you say that Jonathan Taylor hop

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scotched Josh Allen in the m v P race. Yeah,
it's funny because they opened the broadcast and CBS talking
waxing poetic almost about how Josh Allen is a legitimate
m VP candidate and he's the reason that the Bills
are where they are right now. And frankly, I think
the Bills have relied on him too much to this
point and they couldn't rely on him. Not that he's
been bad, but he has not been a top five quarterback.

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He's been a good quarterback who had a bad game,
but at no point as he an m v P candidate.
Carson Wentz by the way throws for a hundred and
six yards in this game. Uh, And that's all right,
because when you have Taylor going off the way that
he did and the defense playing as well as they did,
it doesn't matter. I thought a turning point in the
game shook or maybe just kind of a well where

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are we at right now? Because remember the Bills were
slumping on offense leading into Week ten and then beat
up the Jets, who are a joke, and now they
go up against good competition again, and we see what
happens here. And there was a moment in the third
quarter they're down multiple scores, they're facing a fourth and
about about around six if I recall, and they opt
for a long I think fifty five in that range

(27:23):
yard field goal attempt overgoing for it, which predictably goes
horribly awry, and then the Colts go right down the
field and score and end the game. I mean that
to me really spoke a lot about both teams. Yeah,
first off, not a confidence in the Bills offense to
be able to convert that fourth down, but also uh,
Tyler Bass's second missfield goal the day, you know, like
I said, inclinent weather. So it wasn't the best situation

(27:44):
for them, but you know how a game can go
your way in a lot of in a number of
different ways. Carson Wentz had a nice play, Whey scrambled.
He looked like Vintine Carson Wentz before everything that he's
dealt with in the last few years. It can also
go awry for another team, and it was like that
for the Bills with even in their kicking situation, where
they just had no confidence in what they were doing
and knew they were getting bullied on the field and
just capt a terrible day for them. That's got to

(28:05):
make their fans think because the two weeks ago they
lose that game to Jacksonville, and it's like, what is
going on with the Bills? And then they come back,
like you said, dominate the Jets. I think they're back
to where they were against Jacksonville. What is wrong with
our team? Why can't we put up the points that
we were capable of putting up and why can't we
get a stop? So kind of a soul searching week
I think ahead for the Bill. Plus inclement weather is
something that's gonna be happening in Buffalo, So it's like,

(28:28):
if you're not exactly they should be constructed, and I
think they'll be fine. But them beating Kansas City so
badly to get to four and one and now we're
sitting here with them at six and four is one
of the most surprising things to happen in this entire
nflc I know there's a lot of like up as down,
down as up in the NFL, but them hitting the
skids this hard, uh, is shocking to me. I don't

(28:50):
think it's quite as shocking that Marx Colts. You know,
he spun the wheel and it decided which fan he
was going to be for the rest of them, and
he says he said he wasn't interested in him, that
he they were boring, that he has to be convinced.
And yet here they are. Whether they are a big
time playoff team or not, they're gonna be in the
center of the rest of this season. Not only are
they six and five, but they got the Bucks next week,

(29:12):
they got the Cult, the Patriots at home coming up,
They're at Arizona. So there's just gonna be like a
lot of big time games involving the Colts. Can I respond, Yes,
my response, I funked up because, first of all, I
already said on our network show a couple of weeks
ago that I was wrong about this. The Colt the
Cults are good. Okay, they're good. They've not They've scored

(29:33):
under twenty five point points once since Week three, and
it's it's what we thought about Indianapolis in the off
season was not even this. This is superseding what we
hoped maybe you could accomplish with Carson Wentz. We knew
Jonathan Taylor was good, we knew the defense was good.
They're rounding into something completely different. And for everyone tweeting
me about like some quote I made about the cults,

(29:55):
like you know thirty five days ago, I've already told
you I was wrong. It's when I a what if
they you know they don't know that well in general,
I'm telling you right now because this podcast is cannon.
So if you say it on the TV show, that's good,
but you have to come back. That's an extended universe.
Good vibes too. I watched like the very long like

(30:16):
hype speech and the celebrations afterwards, and I loved the
moment when t Y Hilton gave his coach some love.
He got us ready, he got us prepared to kick that.

(30:41):
I gotta defend you. I got I gotta defend Mark
real quick. They haven't beat a team that was of
legitimate quality until today, as the team bigger until today,
that's fine. They blew big leads against the Titans and
they're good. But they're they're they're good, all right. So
the Cults are surging, you know, getting into that division race.
Not completely out of the picture either, but they still

(31:02):
have a long hill of climb there. But they're certainly
in the playoff. Makes on a dangerous team because Taylor
is magnificent. Let's move on. They're gonna direct snap the
ball to Jarvis Landry. Landry is gonna roll to the lap.
He's looking, he's coming, and he's gonna run ten hard.
He's drying. I get touchdown Jarvis Landry his first touchdown

(31:24):
of the air. There you gown Jim down with the
call w K r K, you gotta you gotta win there,
Jarvis Landry scored from sixteen yards out. Nick Chubb loudly
announced his return with a hundred and thirty ground yards
on a receiving score. The Browns edged past the windless
lines third team ten at the Dog Pound Shookie. This

(31:47):
by the final score and highlights. This didn't seem pretty,
but the Browns stopped the bleeding after last week's unsightly
setback in Foxbow. Yeah, I think that touchdown that we
just played kind of captured exactly where the Brown's offense
is right now, and they have to resort to putting
Jarvis Landry in the shotgun and then just let him
freelance and and find an open field in the middle
to rush for a touchdown. I mean, they don't have

(32:08):
any rhythm offensively. But and I think today, frankly, uh,
they probably lose to nine of the thirty two teams
in the NFL with the way they played. There's two
teams they've beat in this in this type of game.
It's Detroit and it's Jacksonville. Um, they got a lot
of work to do. I don't I don't really know
where the answers are their Their offense is a mess.
Baker Mayfield does not look good because of his injuries

(32:28):
and whatever else. But they were lucky to have Nick
Chubb backed. Why don't you carry a hundred thirty yards?
He was able to pace the offense and then close
the game out in a tight one. But you can't
feel too confident other than the fact that you added
another tay to the wind column and they all count
the same. So you're six and five and you move
forward from here. So you've got if you're the Cleveland Browns,
you've got at this stage the most critical juncture in

(32:50):
your season. You've got the Ravens, a much needed by
week to get some people healthy, and then the Ravens again.
So three weeks from now, we're gonna know basically what
this team is all about out I think they are
impossible to figure out the fact that I sit on
the fact that they are an average team, uh that
has cannot get out of their own way. And yes,
it's injuries for Baker Mayfield, but I see a lot

(33:11):
of other things going on with him. I was watching
this out of the corner of my eye, and honestly
it was one of my more enjoyable sundays, not to
fully ride the journey. It was well, I I will
wait until they are vaguely enjoyable again. But Shook, I
would this is I'm not trying to be talk radio person,
but if this is the Baker we get from now

(33:32):
till the end of the season, injuries are not, does
it maybe operate as a blessing in disguise for the
front office. They have this incredibly tough decision coming up
where this extension talk makes no sense. At this point,
It's not heard an extension right but to me, the
decision they have no decision to make. They're not going
to give him anything. Yeah, I'm just saying it is

(33:54):
a question in Cleveland. No one's saying that they don't
have no decision to make. That's not true. Absolutely. I
get to x from you know, friends who are Browns
fans at Chuck Whitlock, who was one of our former
researchers of the network. He's moved on since then. He's
an avid Browns fan. He texts me every Sunday and
he told me the same thing, which is basically, we
gotta move on, Like this is this guy is not
the guy. But the decision you mean, get rid of

(34:15):
him this offseason because he's under contract for a very
cheap number next year. No, but it's not that no
one's talked about what to do with Baker Mayfield long
term because they have the fifth year. I'm with you,
but like, it's not a great situation for Baker Mayfield either.
It's not a great look optics wise to just he
didn't talk to the media. Mary Kay Cabot said nothing

(34:35):
in particular happened to cause that he was booed aggressively,
So maybe he was in his feelings. Who knows. You
don't want to guess why he didn't talk to the media,
but he kind of story apparently, like kind of walked
off the field, didn't celebrate, didn't shake any hands. It
sounds like if you kind of remissing the lines, if
you're tracking the team, he's you know, dreadfully beat up.

(34:59):
He has all different sorts of injuries to his knee,
his left shoulder, his foot, and he's getting booed in
his own building, and he's there's probably a lot of frustration.
Now we'll see if it was simply out of frustration
that even talk us. That's not the right way to
play it either, because you just invite the firestorm of uh,
you know, everyone to talk about your talking heads, debating

(35:19):
your future. It just adds more fuel to the fire.
That said, I think it's notable what I'm hearing from
both Shook and Mark for the first time, like Browns
fans starting to grapple with the idea that maybe Mayfield
isn't the guy going forward, because I haven't really heard
that from Browns fans until this point. So it feels
like things are starting to shift a little. That's maybe
more what I mean to just that, like, yeah, they

(35:40):
can figure this out, but like there's a polar shift
for me in terms of the Mayfield experience over the
last couple of weeks and just one offseason with a
bunch of like glowing reports about hey, they're back in sinks,
not gonna do it, They've got they've got questions. My
thing with like talking about the future is now is
the team that they're trying to win a Super Bowl
with right now? That's they gotta be good luck with

(36:03):
this team. Right there's there's six and five, I know,
but there's six games left of the season. There's a
lot to go right and and even even when you're
thinking about next year, like are what they really there's
no way he's getting extension this offseason. Is there any
chance that they would move off of him this year?
Maybe because they have a piece that you could get
involved in of Russell Wilson, Yeah, because they do get

(36:27):
to buy There's still a lot of football. The a
FC is wide open. We've seen the Browns in their
top gear, even when they're not consistent, they were really
impressive when they're playing well. But right now there's a
lot of doubt around the organization, and I see how
it's starting to you know, the quarterback situation is back
under the microscope again. Also, my Tim Boyle could win
a game on Thanksgiving, prediction is not looking good. With

(36:49):
seventy seven yards and two to two interceptions, you only
win by three. When Tim Boyle at seventy seven yards
and two interceptions, the Chicago's plane goes the direction of
like Amelia Earhart's plane. That's that's your Tim Boil victory. Greg, Like,
I mean, does anyone start I know it's a very
unpopular take. Is anyone gonna start coming to my side
and take Thanksgiving away from the lines for just a

(37:10):
little bit, Maybe them like a teenager will give you
the keys back to the civic But you just got
a chill better. You're not getting the keys back either. Alright,
one more game before we say goodbye to Shook. Let's
head to the desert. Third down and goal from the
sick shotgun, snap burrow from the pockets to the left

(37:32):
corner of the end zone, chase touchdown. Oh, it was
the crossroads games on the NFL schedule. The Cincinnati Bengals
they were heading down, the Raiders, they were heading down.
Somebody there was a fork in the road. The cross
roads were there, and only one team could take the

(37:54):
correct path, and it was Cincinnati Bengs. The killer combination
of Joe Burrow and Jim R. Chase strike again. The
pair connected for the clinching touchdown in the fourth quarter.
It was win over the fading Raiders at Allegian Stadium.
Allegiant Legion. I don't even know what that word needs.
Joe Mixon added two touchdowns as well, and what's been

(38:17):
an excellent season for the half back shook. Uh. This
is a much needed win for Cincinnati that that puts
them on the right path. And like I said, crossroads,
the Raiders just turned down a dark road. Yeah, huge
cross roads for the Bengals coming off that blowout loss
to the Browns, going to the bye week, and they
spent that bye week very productively, evidently based on how
they played on Sunday. I mean, their defense was stellar

(38:38):
for the majority of the game. They significant yeah, one
of them, and then we give up one significant touchdown
drive early in the fourth quarter, and then they answered.
They responded with a long drive to put the game away,
cap by a touchdown by Joe Mixon. It was actually
it was touched on passenger mar Chase. It was a
it was a complete performance. I think, Um, you know,
this is the Bengals team that was at the top
the a f C in October. This is this is

(39:00):
how they played today. And and then on the Raiders side,
it's hey, offense, wake up before the fourth quarter. Your
defense is playing its tails off to keep you in
the game, and you're not holding up your end of
the bargain. And and we've seen this too often from
the Raiders, I think, which is, you know, one game
they can come out and light it up. They lit
it up very early in the season, but they haven't
played complimentary football for the entire season. And that's ultimately

(39:20):
what sank them today. And you have to wonder, you know,
the whole the bisaccia, the boost from from going to
interim head coach that's long gone now, and you just
got the bump. That's what. I don't know if bump
was positive or negative connotation, but I'll show you a bump. Bump.
They took a few bumps and not the good time.
On Sunday, Yeah, they watch this game too, shook and

(39:41):
uh Vegas was just so flat offensively in this like
a nice st smack once in a while, I know,
but we don't talk about that careful with that, uh.
And I know they got if you look at the
box car they got Darren Waller back involved the loss
of Henry Ruggs. From a pure perspective, it was a
real tough blow. It just feels like this offense needs

(40:04):
to be opened up more. Derek Carr if you look,
and I'm sure he'll his ranking of the QB Index
has started to go south with this slump as well.
They're just not as dynamic as they need to be.
And they weren't able to hang with a Bengals team
that had its own offensive problems early in this game.
But Las Vegas just never was able to turn it on.
That's three straight losses. By the way, how about Joe

(40:26):
Burrow now, please, I mean Joe Burrows hundred fifty yards?
They typically lose this game, right in a regular setting,
they typically and they end up winning by what was it,
nineteen points too, Not like that's a ton, but that's
that's wild. And yet the key play of the game
to me was that six yard throw to Chase with

(40:48):
about five minutes left to you know, put them up
nine and that's a pretty throw on third down. There
is something to Joe Burrow like in big moments. I
know he's had some fourth quarter interceptions, but that was
a big moment and he got it done. And how
about the Eli Appsle Apple Redemption Tour right now? Big
time interception in a key spot it was part of

(41:08):
There was a sequence here where the Raiders haven't straight
uh third down fails. That's hard to do. Fourteen straight
third down failures. Uh. And the Bengals are now one
win away from topping their over under. If if they
won next week they had the Steelers, if you go
sweep the Steelers, they are in fantastic position the Bengals,

(41:30):
and you've you've maybe wiped away some of the questions
about who are they at the basic level after a
very wayward couple of weeks. Yeah, because at that point
you're let's see two thirds of the way through your
divisional schedule with a date with the Ravens a date
with the Browns left. I mean, you're in You're in
a great spot in a division that's very winnable. A
team that many of us expected to finish last in

(41:50):
the division is positioned right now to be in it
until the end. If they keep and if they play
like this, they gotta be a little bit better offensively.
But if they can get this type of play from
their defense, I mean, they're gonna be a tough out
no matter who they played for the remainder of the season.
And very interesting to watch they went. At one point
they lost remember fifteen straight road games. They are four
and two on the road. Five of their last seven
games are at home. Such a such an important win

(42:12):
for Cincinnati because it did feel like the storm clouds
were gathering. That was an example of a perfect time
for a bye and they were able to reset things.
They got this win and now they have a big
match up against Pittsburgh next week. But now you can
go into that with confidence. And if you're the Raiders,
everyone's like, oh, they're doing the same thing they did
last year and the year before now they didn't. That's different.
This year is different. They collapsed in November this year

(42:34):
last year, and the year before it was December, so there,
it's not the same season. Well, they're overachieving on a
weird in a weird way, this right there ahead of
the curve in a lot of ways. That's organizationally what
you want to be Shookie. Uh, you look great, Uh
you talk great, and we appreciate having me on the
show every week. I'm I'm overwhelmed. I don't I don't

(42:55):
know what to say. Thanks. There he goes the heart
of Cleveland. They shook. All right, let's take a break
and then move on. All right, goodbye to Nick Shook
and let us now head to Chicago and give us
the Freeman lops to don Alright, Freeman and the raven

(43:19):
have taken the lead. What two seconds left in Chicago? Wow? Great?
I don't know if you heard the background audio there,
it was like great work by the guy with the
guy seemed like a crowd from like the mid nineteen thirties.
They Jerry Sandusky with the called w b a L

(43:42):
subbing for an ill Lamar Jackson. Tyler Huntley led a
winning drive cap I had Davanta Freeman three yard run
with twenty two seconds to play. It allowed the Ravens
to escape with a six win over DA Bears. Mark
The Ravens danced with the devil in this one to
tell the tale means they almost lost to a crappy team,

(44:04):
but then they didn't. Yeah, and like a sliver of
reality would have made this the game where we're talking
about Andy Dalton coming in and replacing a Justin Fields
who has left the game with banged up ribs, and
you know, with under two minutes to go, it's fourth
and six for the Bears. Okay, Jason Peters had a

(44:25):
false start, making it fourth and eleven, and this was
Chicago's final shot against Baltimore and Andy Dalton zips a
rope to Marcus for a touchdown. They're up thirteen nine
and then it's Tyler Huntley and one forty one minute
left for the Ravens and they were sitting um at
the Chicago and Tyler Huntley played. They they had a

(44:47):
good plan for him. Mark Andrews was an all star
in this game. He was a security blanket for Huntley,
who ran a couple of times, made a couple of passes.
But what happened here was they did we can't stick
to our plan. We have to let Huntley throw the ball,
and he showed that he could a twenty one yard
dart to Devon Duvernet and then on third and twelve
a thirty yard or to Sammy Watkins to the Chicago

(45:09):
three yard line. I mean Chicago slept after the Sandy
Dalton touchdown. They went to sleep on defense, totally allowed
Baltimore to march down the field. Then bang that DeVonta
Freeman touchdown. They're up sixteen thirteen, lights out. And I
want to point out one other thing real quick. In
this game, there was an absolute meltdown for Matt Nagy. Okay,
this was early in the game where it was fourth

(45:31):
and one and it was like seven to six, and
they appeared to be going actually going out and punting
the ball when everyone else in the league is going
for it, and the crowd in Chicago we heard them
on that replay, was going absolutely nuts. I am convinced
that Matt Nagy was essentially At one point he seemed
to be shouting and screaming and hollering at a sound

(45:51):
man who was controlling his headset or something. I don't
know what was going on there. But then two minutes later,
there's suddenly going for it and there's fire Nagy chance
in the stands. I mean, he was convinced by the
booing crowd to change his decision. I think is this
when we I was doing a sky yes, exactly, and yeah,
it was Live with Neo Reynolds and I was trying to,
you know, talk about I think the Eagles Saints game,

(46:13):
and Mark is five feet away from me just going Naggy.
What's Naggy doing? He's going crazy over here? And I
had I had to like call it out because I
didn't know if they could hear. I was like, well,
what what is happening? Like New York? Like I suddenly
was from New York. I mean it wiped away. I
think what's lost is, like we talked about the way
it didn't work. They ran a wildcat. They put David

(46:34):
Montgomery in the backfield and a wildcat. And what Montgomery
could have he if you watched the replay, he kind
of ran in the wrong direction. He could have gone
left and got in the yardage. But they just had
a bad plan for it. They just seemed so discombobulated
at times. The thing that this game did is it
wiped out a three and a half sack performance by
Robert Quinn. Rog Kuwan Smith was all over the place.

(46:56):
Just we came so close to having a very different
narrative to this story. Talking about this right now, Well,
because it was a wild one the Ravens. The Ravens
stole it away. At the Ravens winning these games, well,
it shows who the Ravens are. And I thought that
on the flip side, John Harball was nothing but utter
calm through the entire performance. And you're going in there
with non Lamar Jackson and you have no business winning

(47:18):
this thing. And sorry, but it was Greg Roman showing
you I can take any quarterback and build an offense
around him. The Bears were in total chaos scoring. I mean,
what am I supposed to do with that pal excite?
I mean Andy Dalton brought them life when he came
in justin fields and thrown for seventy nine yards and
a half plus. It was not a good performance by him.
Dalton brought life. Then they went to sleep. The last

(47:39):
thing happens and they let the Ravens right back in
the only touchdown drive of the day, which is for
the Ravens, which is crazy. So I'll remember a couple
of things from this game, One like, why is wing
Martindale blitzing there? All of Baltimore is really getting sick
of Don Martindale this year for doing that, because you've
given of all these big time and he blitzes Andy
Dalton on four you know, four than game. Essentially they

(48:01):
get the touch on. But I will remember, I really will,
I think forever this moment, which was the second that
Goodwin catches it and goes into the end zone for
the Bears to take a lead. And at this point
the Ravens have not scored a touchdown all game. Um
Our coworker Danny Ryder in the newsroom within a half
a second said, oh, they're gonna lose. He's a Bears fan.

(48:23):
He didn't even for one second. He didn't enjoy it.
He just said, they're definitely they're gonna lose. And he
was right. So you wanted Bears and lines on Thanksgiving,
you got it. Bears have lost five straight and uh,
they don't believe at this time the time we're taping
this anyway, that Justin Fields broke his ribs. But it's
a short turnaround to play on Turkey Day, so we'll

(48:44):
see what happens. And by the way, Marky, those Baltimore
Ravens who may or may not have Lamar Jackson, uh,
we'll see how he's feeling. Uh Hardbos said that the
illness is not COVID nineteen or the flu. They hoped
he was gonna feel better on Sunday morning, and Study
felt worse. So we'll see what's going on with Lamar
and we hope he's okay. But the Ravens and Brown's

(49:06):
clash on Sunday Night football in Week twelve could be
mad cow disease were It's just an option. We're not
saying that's what it is if you look at if
you look at this raven season, though, they could be
like three and ten. They stole that Chiefs game, they
stole that Lions game, they stole that Vikings game, and
they stole this game like those are I think they're stealing.

(49:26):
What's there? So though, no, I know, I'm just saying
it's a great quarterback, a great coach, and a great kicker.
But they didn't even the quarterback was Tyler Huntley and
there's no it's But by the way, hey, Tony Romo,
it's pretty clear that like Bears general manager Ryan Pace
took you out like a five hundred dollar dinner, mentioning
like with flowery language, like three hundred times how well

(49:47):
built the team is thanks to Ryan Pace. I mean,
name dropped in twenty times. You know what we gotta
do any Sunday night football every week. That annoyed energy
is good. Good for you. Let's moved to Philly. Hurts
gives it offense side, I know, and he's running forward
out a fight. He's at the ten, he's at the

(50:09):
five for the touch down. Wan a fight, wanna fight fight?
Jalen Hurts to see all the singles win, Oh, Meryl Reese,
the call? W I p Jalen Hurts. I think he's
sticking around. He ran for three touchdowns. Darius slay at
a pick six. Eagles roll over Greggy Saints forty to nine.

(50:33):
That's two wins in a row for the first time
for the Eagles and also Nick SIRIANTI, that's what the
w looks like at the link. First win at home
in five tries, Greggy, I know you're feeling this Eagles team.
They're suddenly quite frisky. They are, and this is one
where it was like best on best. I know there
was a lot of Saints injuries and they lost that

(50:54):
that's a factor. But the Saints came into this with
the number one rush defense dv o A in the league.
The Eagles came in just having rolled a bunch of
these Patsy's in terms of run defenses, and I thought
the Saints were gonna stand up and and be counted for.
And Jalen Hurts just makes this team go. Miles Sanders
return and had a nice day ninety four yards to

(51:16):
Jordan Howard, kept getting it done ten for sixty three.
But Hurts on the ground is what opened it up.
They ended up with two forty two. And it wasn't
one of those where you got a big lead and
then you just rack up yards. They had one fifty
two in the first half. The Saints Actually, yeah, it
kind of made a fourth quarter come back to make
this thing interesting. It was all about that running game
and those big uglies up front, and they showed their

(51:38):
just like the baddest team going right now. Into this game,
the Saints were averaging less than seventy three yards allowed
on the ground. So to put to forty two on
a very good Saints defense or run defense, I should
say at the very least. And the Eagles of now
sur passed one seventy five rushing and four straight games,
including two plus and three wins over that spin. This

(51:59):
is have an identity they're nasty upfront, and yeah, remember when,
like the Ravens they could because it shows like if
you're gonna if you want to be a good coaching staff,
you have to be willing to completely recreate yourself midstream
at times. And it reminds me of when the Ravens

(52:21):
went from Flacco to Lamar Jackson and they embraced the
concept of just saying we were that will never be
that ever again because we have Lamar Jackson, We're gonna
zig when the entire league zags and the Eagles. You know,
Nick Sirianni was a pretty easy target for a lot
of us who just watch his press conferences left and right,
and then you just started to hear that the players

(52:42):
were like, actually, we dig this guy. And I don't
know what that meant. Maybe it's just like you're in public,
that's what you're saying. But he does seem to have
shown us he has a plan for Jalen Hurts, he
has a plan for this offense, the way they're running
the ball. I thought, you're right, Greig, this was the
acid test today. Maybe it all floats away and instead
they dropped a massive hammer. But there in the mix,
they're they're five and six, they're they're in the mix now.

(53:03):
It should be said the Saints were without their three
best offense four if you want to count Jamis. There
two tackles who have both been to multiple Pro Bowls
were out, which was a little bit of a surprise. UH.
And that helped Philly's defense show a transformation where they
were really aggressive. They again, they're you're listening to the
talk radio collars and it's working. Just why don't they
run the ball? Why don't they be more aggressive on defense?

(53:25):
They blitzed. Uh, they were very creative and Trevor Simeon
UH was terrible in this first half of this game.
He's terrible, Mike. He was rough. The final box scorers misleading,
They kept trying. They I get it. It was it
was it was six or eight teen for sixty yards

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in a in a brutal pick six. Slay got his
third touchdown in four games. Uh. And he just didn't
give them a chance in the first half. But they're
starting guys i've never heard of on the offensive line
landing young and I don't know good prospect know I
know about it's not good. I mean, you take Alvin
Kamara out of the lineup. You know, the lineman obviously
a huge deal. The quarterback, even though you know Winston

(54:09):
is who Winston is still an upgrade over Trevor Simmons.
But you take Kamara out. This is a very ordinary
team at that point. And they get healthier, I don't
I think they're still gonna be in this They gotta
get health in. This version of the Saints is just
not dynamic. And now they've lost three straight games since
the Winston a c L injury. They got a tough
schedule ahead we talked about on Thursday, and I just

(54:29):
want to say one thing on the Eagles. Half a
game out by the way of the last spot right there,
Nick Sirianni on his quarterback Jalen is a special player
who forces defenses to play different. You look at their stats,
but you also want to do what you do well.
They I think they're starting to feel in that building
that they have found a guy here that they could

(54:52):
build an offense around. Here. Here's what's so huge about that,
because assuming Wentz plays like another game, which you will,
it's like they have three first round picks and instead
of having to go do the thing where we don't
like our quarterback. We have to go shop for someone else.
You now have three first round picks to make the
Eagles about so much by so many derivations better than

(55:12):
they are right now and surround. Jalen hurts if he
continues to be the guy. All right, let us head
to Seattle next, where the Seahawks desperately needed to win
a game. But he didn't realize that Colt McCoy would
be playing second and goal on the two shotguns. Snap
to McCoy, balls loose on the ground, he picks it up,
throws over the middle. Hey, it's caught for a touchdown

(55:32):
by Urds. Oh my, Colt McCoy picking up a loose
ball on the turf and throwing a pass over the
middle for a big touchdown. Here late in the first half,
Culton Lacoy to God, Calton Sessler's namesake delivered another trenchant performance.
The second of three weeks is Kyler Murray's injury replacement

(55:54):
and the Cardinals over the I know everybody's been waiting
for it. I've been getting a tweets. I've been waiting
to break it out. But it's that time of year.
Over the moribund Seattle Seahawks at loumin Field McCoy three
for two touchdowns. Mark, I know you're proud of you. Boy.

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This lifted my spirits because, like, here's the thing, this
would have been a great opportunity for the Cardinals to
have an excuse over the last three weeks to go
into the tank to some degree and say we'll get
ourselves out of it. But we didn't have Kyler Murray,
we don't have DeAndre Hopkins. And call McCoy, you asked
him to come in and play three starts. One of
them was a mess, but two of them have been

(56:37):
nothing short of heroic. And today he just showed you
that when you have that backup quarterback, not the most
athletic guy on the planet, not you know, they used
to call him nood alarm. Well, you know what, it
was a little bit better than that. Today he just
showed command of the offense. And there is what I
thought the tone senter right out of the gate, a
six team play, sixty eight yard nine minut a touchdown drive,

(57:01):
the longest drive of their season in terms of plays
and time off the clock. And then he answers down
the road with another thirteen play ninety two yards six
minute touchdown drive. Zach Ertz was all over the place
for him, and it's it really became Cult McCoy battling
Cardinals kicker Matt Prator, who I don't know what Matt
Prator did pregame, but man, he was all over the place.

(57:21):
He's a good kicker in general. Miss, I don't I'm
just saying he did not seem to be um in
the right headspace. He had a he had a missed
p a t he had this is on the road.
He had a killer miss field goal. He did hit
one a fifty plus at one point, but then missed
another field goal. So he cost them seven points in
a game where the Seahawks were climbing back into this thing,

(57:44):
and it forced Colt McCoy up sixteen to thirteen to
take them on another drive. He hits zach Ertz on
a twenty yard or and then at one point he
rumbled Cult McCoy for an eleven yard chain moving first
down that I thought it was a bigger scramble than
Kyler Murray's had all year. I mean, Colin are is,
you know, infinitely more of the athlete. It's not a
shot fired more than just Colt McCoy did everything you

(58:06):
could have asked it forty minutes of time of possession,
and it it revealed basically the fact that Seattle at
this point, not only do I feel good about having
forked them a month ago, they are a low wattage board.
They look totally out of ideas, and I think Pete
Carroll was quite annoyed after it. Let's hear from Pete,
who at one point left his presser only to return.

(58:27):
He can't make sense of, Wow, I'm just not any
good at this. You know, I'm not prepared for this.
This is not this. I'm I'm struggling to do a
good job of you know, coaching when you when when
you're getting your butt kicked in the weekend and weekend,
I you know, it's just it's new territory. So um,
and I'm competing is in every way I can think of,

(58:49):
But um, I'm just unfamiliar with that. Sounds like to
me like a coach who now is starting to see
his mortality, at least in Seattle, like he knows now,
not only is my team on the ropes at three
and seven, with a very strong chance of missing the
playoffs for just the second time in a decade. He
also knows he's in trouble now because the wheels are

(59:11):
coming off and there's uncertainty with the superstar quarterback and
the relationship between the team and the quarterback is not right.
I think Carl senses he's in danger at the same time,
just the general frustration of a season where he can't
get this team motivated to play well. You've lost the
Colt McCoy two straight years. Remember he was with the
Giants last year, went in there, uh dk Metcalf gets

(59:32):
thirty one yards on eight targets. Russell Wilson's led them
to thirteen points total in two weeks, ends up with
two d and seven yards no touchdowns. It's crazy, and
I think it's just realizing how outclassed you are right
now in this division to to to get bodied by

(59:53):
Cliff Kingsbury and Colt McCoy and there's no new Copkins. Look,
a lot of teams have gotten bodied by the Cardinals.
But the Seahawks team, who's in primetime two weeks in
a row. By the way, after this, let's flex him
out a Sunday night in a couple of weeks. But
they're against Washington, Monday night at a week like everyone's
gonna be watching this. Uh, and it's a it's a

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long way to climb out of. But you gotta give
the Cardinals a lot of the credit. Yeah, I think
they're going to number one in the Power right they are.
They bailed me out with this one. I'll tell you
what fans. Joseph, who you know flamed out as head coach,
has been awesome as defensive coordinator. I cannot remember a
game in the Pete Carroll Russell Wilson era where that
home Seattle stadium was so lustrous with booze. I mean

(01:00:34):
it was as rough as it gets. And uh, that
was not with Seattle expect the Cardinals. Just to point
out how impressive they've been. They are plus one oh
weight in terms of point differential on the road alone.
And I did a little scribbling right here during the show.
The combined record of the teams they've played eighteen when
they're not playing the card So they've destroyed, destroyed good teams,

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not just the Seahawks. Uh. And after the game, Russell Wilson,
and if you're wondering how he's feeling, how the finger
is the ball's coming out of my hand. Just fine.
I'm not gonna make any excuses. I'm not an excuse
kind of guy. Well, well we'll see. The Seattle Seahawks
are in a lot of trouble. The Cardinals now get
a bye week. On top of this, the fact that

(01:01:18):
they come out of these three games with two WS
against the Vision rivals. Now they get a week off,
and hopefully for Arizona when they return uh in week
their team they will have Kyler and new Coopkins, and
there they'll be that much more dangerous. But Colt McCoy,
there was magic work, magic in the air. I don't
know what else you can ask a backup quarterback to do.
Then what he's done there is matt to it. I

(01:01:40):
was theorizing downstairs that he added two years to his
career in week nine, and then he lost a year
to his career in week ten. But now he added
two more here. So he's up three years now of
making money through just through you know, three games to play.
You know, if you're gonna say, like, hey, I'm gonna
go to work three days this year, I'll be good

(01:02:00):
on two of them and suck on one. I like that.
We gotta get Colt McCoy on the show. We gotta
tell him about Colt Sassler. We gotta and maybe it's
an offseason show. I don't know if it's there. Seems
like we could probably get That's what I'm saying. Then
it puts me back to the fanboy scenario where like
I'm frozen. I don't know what the question. That's like

(01:02:21):
Jimmy found like I think we could get Rob Schneider.
Not sure I think we can. Anyway, let's take a
break in. We'll be right back. Shotgun one back bunch formation. Right,
here's the snap Texans sending people. Tammi Hill hit us,
he throws, It's picked up by King and out of
bounce inside that's one a yard line. The huge takeaway

(01:02:42):
for the Texaeds just stop Tennessee with three on the fourth.
You may not recognize that. That the sound of that voice,
but that was Mark Vandermere with K I L T
with the call go home, minute bell you're drug Entering Sunday.
The Texans were the coldest team in the league. They
were the hottest, So of course, the Texans snapped the

(01:03:03):
NFL's longest active losing streak by beating the Titans and
the longest the league's longest winning streak on a miserable
day in Houston, Mark How, and we're gonna get to
a great digger. He's gotta answer to this, Well, Daddy
did not have primary eyes on this game. But if
you asked me how, I'd say that they were depleted

(01:03:24):
a wide receiver. They're out of weapons. And we've watched
this often, Speed challenged the scenario. You want to be
your daddy? I am that is I am. I gotta
stop calling ourselves daddy. I think generally makes uncomfortable. No,
I did it. I forget what scenario I did. And

(01:03:45):
I did it as well at some point. And it's
just like it's it's a virus that's spreading. It is
a virus that's spreading Delta. It's like the Delta. It's
maybe not the worst virus amongst anyway. All right, and
then wait, I don't need to hear from hear from
Grave Digger, Grave Digger, what the hell happened? I know

(01:04:05):
you're you're missing Derrick Henry. I know you're a j Brown.
He gets hurt. Is it just an issue where we
we've reached the level for Ryan Tittle who had four
picks where he just doesn't have anybody to throw too
and make plays with. And and now it's starting to
show for real. Honestly, I would love to say that
that is the reason the Titans offense was so bad,

(01:04:26):
but it really wasn't. I mean, Nick west fr kinan
had over a hundred receiving yards. Whoever the heck he
I mean, he's a second year guy, I'm drafted out
of Indiana. But um, the Titans outgained the Texans four
hundred twenty yards two hundred nine, but they turned the
ball over five times, twice inside the opposing teams six
yard line. Once once was a pick that was actually

(01:04:46):
the Titans were in the red zone and Houston returned
it all the way to the six yard line. So
that's a huge swing. And then in the second half,
the Titans had like three chances. The defense got six
straight three announced to close the game. One of them
was like four and out technically, so not technically, but
the offense Tannehill like every time the offense started driving

(01:05:07):
Tannehill through an interception, that was like, what was that throw?
And maybe it was young receivers like des fitz Patrick
who was a rookie who was cut after training camp,
who has like been on the practice squad all season
and finally got elevated last week. He was like yelling
at Tannehill, was yelling at Des fitz Patrick before plays
like Dees, you got it, you got it, you got it,

(01:05:27):
like you can hear it through the broadcast, and then
like he threw a pick on that place. So maybe
Doz did not get whatever change it was, or I
don't know. I mean, it's just it was a fluke.
I mean you they honestly, they've been luck. They've won
a couple of games like this, they didn't look like
the better team, so it's almost like they were overdue
to get some bad luck. But Marcus Johnson, who was

(01:05:47):
so good last week, got hurt, barely played, who knows
if he'll be available for next week. And then A. J.
Brown was in and out and I don't think he
finished the game either. He's probably gonna miss a couple
of weeks, Like they'll probably old amount through the by
which is two weeks away. There's like Twitter doctors who
are trying to diagnose the injury, but obviously you can't
want to trust them. What about the Twinkle Toes line

(01:06:08):
or monsters. You know, there's a lot of dissent on
Twitter about the name. And I think we went from
a unified front too, not unified in it, the team
felt the effects of it. I like that theory. And
how about if you would have told me the Texans
would have played the Titans the Titans today and Tyrod like,
oh oh the Texans one oh, Tyrod was had a

(01:06:30):
big game and you know he know, he had average
four and a half yards per tempt So it's not
like they were you know, run Ranford did run for
two turnovers. Just gonna blow up any plans who failed
fourth down conversions deep in Houston territory. So that's like
seven turnovers. How about this, though, the Texans have forced
ten turnovers in the last two games. That's that's outrageous.

(01:06:53):
That's gotta be more than some teams have forced all year.
That is more than the Steelers, the forty niners. See
how Jets ravens Jaguars at Forest all year. That's insane.
The Cully carry over the Culli They were talking about
it on the broadcast. How Romeo Cornell got this defense
locked in over the bye week or something like years old,

(01:07:15):
and they get the Patriots next with like like two players.
That's that's on my radar. By the way, I don't
have as much rage towards the Patriots as I used to.
Tom Brady leaving really did change some things, I think.
But you seem to be catching these teams at a
good time, Greg, You gotta admit it, right, Yeah, I've
noticed this pattern they keep like right before teams playing
the Patriots. It's like, you know, they get hacked on

(01:07:38):
by machetees or there's viruses through a wood chip or
now deal with New England. You know that every time
we count out the Titans, they deliver a big beforeance.
This would be classic Titans to bounce back in a
huge way. Everyone. They bought themselves a lot of rope,
I mean they I mean, you're still essentially three games
up on the Cults, but you're allowing the other teams

(01:07:58):
to get into this. Number one is your best, that's
for sure. Are you worried about the Cults a little bit?
I'll say this, I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want
to see them in the playoffs also swept them. Yeah,
I don't think they're gonna take. They have to take
three games. They have to do three games better than
the Titans over the last six. So that would be
all it takes is the Patriots beating the Titans next week.

(01:08:21):
And you and the Titans have already let go of
that number one seed. Yeah, the number one seed. That
thing happened, That would happen quickly, so that that game
is a big a. You have a member Dan's point
about road teams thriving. You almost don't want to have
home field advantage, according to where can you do? Can
you do some calculating and see how home teams did
this week? Uh, let's move on. Or a grave digger

(01:08:42):
somebody behind the glass? Uh, you comported yourself. Well they're justin.
Let's move on to Charlotte. Stop steps up his left,
get through the tackle. That's on running now it's to
stop at the forty goes out to talk those bagger
rock his body. That is hot. Unbelievable, boy, shot to

(01:09:04):
the thirty six. To sit your game in the first down. Oh,
double bongos? What are we doing? Taylor does hears those bongos?
He does Bram Weinstein with the call w T Bram
Weinstein always Michael Stein, but I who knows Taylor Heineke

(01:09:25):
the upstage Cam Newton even for two d six yards
and three touchdowns against the defense that was ranked the
best in football entering the game, and uh Washington spoils
Camp's return to Bank of American Stadium for the w
f T over c A R. Greg. I don't know

(01:09:46):
what Washington's long term plans are at QB, but Taylor
Heineke is making a case with games like these. The
last two weeks he's been awesome and this was the
best game of his career. He led the league today
an average depth of target and yet he only had
six in completions. We don't normally play like a fourth
and three six yard game, but if you haven't seen

(01:10:08):
that highlight, that play was ridiculous. It was such a
FARV type play and it typified this game because right
before that, there was a third and twenty one where
Heineke throws a dart for eight team. They rush up.
No indecisiveness from riverboat Ron at all. I'm gonna let
Taylor make a play, and for the second time on
a big fourth down he makes a crazy play. He's

(01:10:31):
been great on third and fourth down, And I contrast
that to Matt Rule, who just earlier a little bit later,
I think in the fourth quarter, Um hems and haws
and and the crowd starts booing because he's gonna punt
on fourth down. And then he wastes all this time
and then he takes the time out, wasting time out
he needed after wasting the thirty seconds, and then they
don't get the fourth down either, and it was like

(01:10:52):
riverboat Ron decisive. Taylor Heineke amazing. Kim Newton played great
in this game, a great maybe an overset. Kim Newton
played well, He played plenty well enough to win, and
yet Heiniki was easily the best quarterback. I yeah that,
I mean, I locked up the Panthers. I felt really
good about it, even better early on in the game.

(01:11:18):
I mean, if you're the Panthers, it's like, geez, you
you had all this momentum and you have this opportunity
against Washington and just to get beat in a game
where your defense can't get stops, that's disappointing. I mean,
they kind of Again, the NFC is so wide open,
just like the a f C, that the fact that
they're five and six doesn't take him out of contention,
but it makes you again wonder, all right, you know

(01:11:39):
it's time to pump the brakes a little bit because
this team might not be ready to make that row.
It's got a thrill Ron Rivera to on the final
two drives of the of the game for for Carolina
to shut him down on fourth down both times. I mean,
it's just like this is un played well. But then again,
he did have they did have a chance to last
at the end of the game, and he couldn't get
it done. The Ron Rivera experience, if you go back

(01:12:02):
through multiple seasons in Carolina, we've seen we saw it
last year in Washington. It's like, let's start too and
seven and then we'll start. Then we'll kick into high
gear and make the playoffs. But in Carolina, I feel
like there were like multiple campaigns or like they'd get
off to a terrible start and then rally and it's
like Ron Rivera is obviously the coach of the future.
You stick with everyone else and I do the same
thing the next year. But this I think part of

(01:12:25):
the problem with Washington wasn't just the defense that was
so off. Critiqued the offense was so out of sync.
They haven't had Curtis Samuel all year long. They just
haven't had the dudes and heinek The one thing about him,
I think if there's something about watching him that is exciting,
there's an element of daring due to his game. I
I hate the gun slinger terminology for quarterbacks, but he
kind of has that energy to him and he hits

(01:12:45):
throws and he's and when he makes a mistake, he'll
just keep doing it and I keep throwing it. And
he was fun to watch. He was getting love after
the game from some of the Panthers too, who were
you know, ex teammates of his. His first start as
a quarterback was with with Carolina revenge for him, not
just Ron Rovert, and they were just kind of they
were just saying, that guy's a dog. Yeah. Scott Turner

(01:13:06):
had a great day. The offensive coordinate. For watching that,
that was very surprising to me to see their offense
control of the game. I expected more out of the
Carolina defense. They had a masterful end to the first half,
started the second half sequence where they have a six
minute touchdown drive that took all the time off to
end the first half. Then another six minute touchdown drive

(01:13:27):
to start the second half, and you're kind of like, oh,
what just happened here? And Cam came back and everything,
but scary Terry had one of his best games of
his career, and Antonio Gibson, I think looks a little
more spry than he did when he was fighting injury earlier.
And we talked a little bit that came up I
think on the Thursday show with p J Walker play
at all in this game and he I don't think
he did, and he didn't at all, and they said

(01:13:47):
the plan was too but they thought Cam was playing well.
And after the game, one thing I guess the last
thing that will come to somebody that's absorbing a new
playbook is the two minute offense and that it kind
of set up games scriptwise poorly for Carolina where they
needed that last UH drive and Camp didn't have the
full playbook at his disposal. They did not move the

(01:14:08):
ball late in that game. So tough loss for the Panthers.
UH and Washington's battling UH the only one game came
out of the wild. Yeah, it is, it is crazy,
It is stupid, but ultimately fun. Let's move to Duval
here's a gun run to Deebo Samuel coming left right
at ward breaks a tackle down the sideline. Deebo Samuel

(01:14:31):
will take it all the way in textown San fran Cisco.
On that a lot of sauce. Greg Papa with the
call k n BR. Jimmy Garoppolo threw two touchdown passes
in the third straight game. Debo had another touchdown on

(01:14:52):
the ground. What a year he's having. Four doowners dominate
the Jaguars thirty to ten, their third win in four weeks.
Mark's felt like a possible letdown game for the Niners,
but San Francisco took care of its business and impressive fashion. Yeah.
I picked this game second in our draft, and you know,
I had a lot of people telling me that I
was nuts to do so, but I knew what I

(01:15:13):
wanted to see. I wanted to see if they could.
Haters were out for you. You know what, we look
at it. Listen, when you when you know what you want,
you just go after it. You don't, you don't risk anything.
Incredibly gutsy locks. So congratulations on that as well. We'll
look at they did me wrong last week, but now
our relationship is totally repaired, because this is one of

(01:15:33):
the teams that I went into the year wanting to love,
and my love is starting to return and grow a bit.
But I wanted just to see would anything translate from
that RAMS game or was that just a you know,
one of these fluke scenarios. Opening drive once again. Forty niners,
twenty plays, eight seven yards, thirteen plus minutes. The first

(01:15:54):
quarter was over and like maybe twenty one minutes, and
I was like, it was just fascinating to watch deep Samuel.
It wasn't just that one touchdown. He led the team
with seventy nine yards on eight carries on the ground.
They basically used them out of the backfield as a
running back, and they're banged up in the backfield, so
they they absolutely slaughter Jacksonville inside the numbers, that's what

(01:16:17):
they've been doing. But they had touchdown drives of eighty,
seventy seven and seventy seven yards. And the Jaguars offense
and Urban Meyer, you know, basically called it out after
the game himself. It they there's there's no growth in
this offense. And and and Trevor Lawrence at the end of
the game is interesting to see a shot of him
with his arm around urban Meyer and not you know,
they in a friendly way. I think they both know.

(01:16:39):
They're just they're in for it. It's along. It's it's
gonna be as long as possible for the rent the
rest of the season, because the hope was maybe Jacksonville's
defense is rounding into something special. Not today, I mean
that that narrative is over for a week. With Devo
and watching his great season, It's been an all pro
level season for Deebo Samuel. That's when like Kyle Shanahan

(01:16:59):
and he's had his ups and downs, obviously, but where
having a really like smart um creative play caller, when
you have a and you have a very unique talented
player like Deebo, when those things come together and you
see what you're seeing there because he the way he's used,
you get the feeling Deebo Samuel's special abilities are being

(01:17:19):
used to their maximum efficiency in this offense. It's nice
to see it that way. Um like Brandon Auk, like
who was in the doghouse and there's a lot of
weird stuff going on with him. He's changed and he
had seventy eight yards in a touchdown any so he's
added to the offense like he just wasn't part of
pretty good over the last month or so. When they

(01:17:41):
play like this and they run the ball like this,
they had place to four at one point. Well this
I feel like this probably happens to the Jaguars a lot.
But they had fourteen first downs while the Jacks had
twelve total yards midway through the second quarter. It was
just like game over, go eat a sandwich. Alright, So
San Francisco, they stay in the picture in the NFC
West as the Seattle Seahawks fall further out, Let's close

(01:18:04):
things up with a trip to the darkest recesses of
the a f C East to a pressure gets away
to throw keep for all. He's got fifteen ten and
he's out the five yard Oh, he's stayed in down.
He tiptoed down the end. They say he's inbound. The
look at this, of course, but a sixty five yard touchdown.

(01:18:28):
Jimmy Cefalo, Jason Taylor, Joe Rose all on the call
there for w q A m uh to a toungo
by Loa connected on a long touchdown to mccollins, and
he threw the go ahead five yard touch up past
the miles gascon early in the fourth quarter final score
seventeen Jets ball to the Dolphins at the meadow Lands.
That's three straight wins for the Miami football team. They got,

(01:18:50):
you know, even they have a pulse. How paulse however
faint it may be, in the a f C playoff race, hmm,
two was good by the way, seven thirty three to
seventy three touchdown passes. He had an interception that wasn't pretty,
but that's part of the two experience. Uh. In general,
I think his audition I'm giving him so far through

(01:19:11):
like sophomore season. I'm giving him like you got a
factor in the injuries because their ability that is a skill.
I'm giving him a B minus so far. I don't
know what it needs to get to for them to
get out of the deshaunt. You give out a lot
of B minus. I do remember on our show you
would give us a post so great, a lot of
it's definitely I think it's above C plus and I

(01:19:32):
don't think it's a solid B yet. It's a B minus.
I think he needs to get and now we're getting scientific.
I think he needs to get to A minus to
keep them out of the Deshaun Watson sweep steaks, so
he's gonna have to go on a tear here. They
have an intense wandering eye and so like B minus
or let's see if it's out of a hundred, he
gets like an eighty six to finish the SEC. No,

(01:19:55):
he's got quarterbacks somewhere else they think is a ninety six.
And you mentioned they have a pulse. But it's interesting
how the top of the NFC is much better. But
if you if you look at the wild card race
in the a f C versus the NFC, it's actually
more open. In the NFC. The Dolphins are still three
games in the lost column behind Chargers, Bengals, Buffalo, which

(01:20:15):
right now is five six seven, And so it's kind
of a it's a big amount. That's why you and
I differentiate because I think every team the AFC stinks, right,
I mean, I get it, but they have more teams
to climb over, and they're like, oh what about the Patriots?
What about them? And now they all stink different. There's
no way to judge what's gonna happen. They can somehow
get in. Uh yeah, they got the Panthers, Giants and Jets.

(01:20:39):
There is a way in if they can. Okay, I'm
talking about Thursday. How about that Elijah More if you
want to on the Jet side, and Joe Flacco is
now the fourth quarterback to play for the team this year.
What a joke season? If um, Zack Wilson sits out
another week. Um, but Elijah Moore. Elijah Moore is the

(01:20:59):
truth that guys, as long as he stays out of
the Jets, grinder is going to be a big time player.
That draft class in general has a chance to be
really good if Zach Wilson can play. But the only
way we can know of Zach Wilson could play is
if he actually plays. And let's hope that he is
back in the lineup soon because otherwise there's really no
reason to watch the Jets. Yeah, I can't. I can't.

(01:21:20):
I'm legitimately angry. I'm not I'm actually not right, you
know that part of the season. Jets right now have
the number two overall pick in the draft with their
own pick and the number five via Seattle. Is not
feeling good right now. Alright, I don't want to see
Zach Wilson get Josh Rosen. No, that's not happening. I

(01:21:44):
don't believe, but you know, we'll see, all right, Hey, Ricky,
By the way, that was pretty crazy. The halftime. They
did this great salute to service halftime show and they
brought out the veterans and it was the six major
military branches in the flag eggs were out. And then
this dude. They throw it up to this dude in

(01:22:04):
the concourse and he's an artist who's also a singer,
and he does a like an America, the beautiful rendition
of the song while painting, and Me and Ricky are
like trying to figure out what he's doing. It looks
like a mess. It looks like he's not gonna pull
it off. All he's singing and painting, and then something
special happened. Oh my god, this was so we're You

(01:22:24):
and I are talking to each other like, oh my god,
the song is finishing up. He'd better finished, like he's
got a lot of time. Looks like like we're like,
what the heck, what the heck? And then when he
flipped the painted flipping You and I were screaming it
was it was an American eagle, and Dan and I
you would have thought it was the coolest thing. And
then Mark thought we were joking, Like you thought we

(01:22:45):
were being just jerks, but we legitimately like in that moment,
it was the most impressive feat I had seen in
the filming. Yeah, why no one else can? It has
nothing to make it? Did you know it was an
eagle ahead when he was painting it? Let me answer

(01:23:05):
for Greg. I wasn't even watching. I don't know. I
mean I was eating. I was eating lunch or dinner
with Tyler Dragon, our old friend, But I was not
aware of the entertainment. Mark Mark knew exactly what it was.
So that's why he thought we were being jerk because
he was like we they thought he thought we were
making fun of not not in a not in a

(01:23:26):
way where I was like, look at me versus youtuo.
But I thought you guys were being kind of like
snarky about the fact that because the action was unbelievable.
I think he was hold, yeah, look I lacked lots
of skills, but like that that thing like I saw
when he was making I said to you guys, why

(01:23:47):
like that, there's an upside down eagle And it was
ll But you would have thought they just told us
like we had one a million dollars like, I don't
know what made us to react like that, but we went.
The dude was singing, I'm going to hitting every note
painting with his hands and it was upside down. I
couldn't see what spends the canvas around in a big spot.

(01:24:11):
One thing that helped me, it's a big win for
the Chargers, Like there's a there's a rivalry between the
Rams and the Chargers game day presentation. That's a that's
a incredible thing I've seen. I've been to a number
of places where they basically like an artist did the
same thing, where it's like they go through the senior
like everyone's like, what is it? Then they turned the
painting around, So maybe my eyes are they singing and

(01:24:33):
I'm looking. His name is Joe Everson UM and he
only has um a thousand subscribers on YouTube and only
gets up Joe Everson on YouTube like everybody. Let's everybody,
the listeners. If you want to see this guy's work,
please go to his YouTube page, comment and say a

(01:24:54):
t N sent you and give the man love. Oh
my god, it just ricky. See, I was right there
with you. We had a moment. Yeah, we were exactly
all right, let's go. Um, good show. We'll be back
on Wednesday. A little different week. Obviously, it's Thanksgiving, so

(01:25:15):
we will have our next show on Wednesday, will preview
all of week twelve. Thank you for everybody, Thank you
to everybody. Until then, he the call

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