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November 24, 2023 54 mins

In a virtual room full of heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, and Marc Sessler recap the 2023 Thanksgiving Day action. The heroes start by discussing the surprise win by the Packers over the Lions (01:50), followed by the Cowboys dismantling the Commanders (17:15), and wrap things up with the 49ers controlling the Seahawks (36:10).

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They Around the NFL podcast wants the NFL to change
the name of every holiday.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. My name
is Dan Hansis, and I have with me heroes virtually
across the Southland and beyond. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Happy
Day After Thanksgiving presented by the National Football League in

(00:30):
honor of John Madden. I don't think I have all
the wording right, but probably close enough.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Happy Thanksgiving Day After, presented by John Madden? Did did you?
Did you boys enjoy and enjoy the day?

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yes, had a great day. I noticed that the Black
Friday Jets Dolphins ad that they ran came very close
in tone and sort of authority to Dan's suggestion that
at some point will just be rolling games out on
Easter Sunday. They kind of like made it clear, are
we now own this day?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
They got it, They got thanks They've always had Thanksgiving
and now they have Friday. And that's coming up in
a couple hours. We're gonna be watching that game and
we'll have the recap of that on the Sunday Show.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
But for today, and it was a very nice Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
We host it every year at our house and it's
a friends giving, but you know the friends are very close,
so it's a like family. So it's a it's a
great holiday. And the one thing in the NFL really
has nailed about it, it is you know, you can't imagine
Thanksgiving without football, and especially without that first game in
Detroit with the Lions. A game boys that we're gonna

(01:40):
get to first, we're gonna go in order that none
of us kind of expected to playing out this way,
and it kind of changed for me a lot of
my thoughts about the NFC underneath, you know, the big boys,
which I don't count the lines among At this point,
let's hit it. Twenty three fourteen Packers, three forty five
to go in the third, watch into the left, snap

(02:02):
to Love Loft the left side of the end, ton
kut touchdown, Christian Watson.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yes, yes, they make the Lions pay sixteen yard touchdown reception.
It's twenty nine to fourteen. Wayne Larravie with the call
for WR and W.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
And you know, we thought we were gonna hear from
Wayne from Dan Miller of the Lions, because everything seems
set up for the Detroit Lions in this great revitalization
period to announce themselves as a dominant force and kick
butt on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
But it went the other way.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
The Packers win twenty nine to twenty two, and it
really wasn't that close things were. The tone was set
on a Jordan Love fifty three yard pass to Christian
Watson on the game's first play.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Greg, we talked about it on the Wednesday preview show.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
They lead the league and explosives like that, and they
just kept taking it to the Lions. Greg, Lions team that,
on top of being flat flooded to start the game,
just killing themselves with the mistakes throughout the afternoon and
they could not put it together.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
They couldn't. I mean, on some level, it starts with
Jared Goff, you know, turnovers for the second straight week.
But I really think it starts back in Week seven,
and that's when we saw the Lions play the Ravens,
and that was a game they were so comprehensibly destroyed
on every level. Did make you think, hmm, well you

(03:29):
can throw that out like a little bit, but let's
see how that goes. Since then, they've played four pretty
lackluster teams, five if you want to count the Packers,
although they're certainly playing better now, and they're the worst
defense or the second worst defense in the league, depending
on what metric you want to use. They all agree.
And that's a five week sample size. And that's against

(03:49):
some pretty good quarterbacks, you know, like Justin Herbert and
Lamar's in there. But it's also against the Raiders and
Jordan Love who is playing better and better every week,
but is not a top ten quarter back right now.
And all these guys are having career days against them.
And I'm with you, Dan, I think they can improve,
but right now, it's hard to see them in the
mix with the truly great NFC teams.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Hmmm, I don't know. I mean, I if we talk
about them as a playoff possibility, I think they're going
to test for that number seven spot. I think yesterday.
I mean, I'm with you, Dan, and.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
The Lions, you think are going to test for them?

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I'm talking about I'm saying Green Bay absolutely now.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, I'm talking about the Lions at eight and three.
I'm not I'm not putting with.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
No.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
I think the Lions, like to me, like the good
to watch. How their their strength was was their offensive line,
and I thought that their offensive line was one of
the reasons that Jared Goff had been you know, pristine
going back to last season in many ways, and everything's
changed over the last couple of weeks, like three lost
fumbles yesterday, six turnovers over the last two weeks. So

(04:55):
lucky they got out of that Bears game with a win,
and it you know, in this division that seemed to
be essentially just kind of handed up to them. I'm
looking to my point before, I'm looking at Green Bay
and thinking, like, wait a minute, they're changing before our eyes.
Their quarterback is, their passing game is, and I look
at that game and like, I don't really remember Matt
Lfloor having a better performance as a coach. I think

(05:16):
no one expected that to happen the way it did.
He came in with a surprising game plan. They stomped
Detroit at home, doing what they do well now. And
it's a different Packers team than before because of their quarterback,
because they're young wide receivers and I'm not really sure
what the ceiling is for the Packers at this point.
It's like they're still kind of growing before our eyes.
But it's like they absolutely like I thought a week ago, oh,

(05:37):
the Vikings will take that number seven spot. I don't
know anything right now. Green Bay like is kind of
an unpredictable Well.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Listen, there's room for the Packers and the Vikings eblines
in the in the playoffs, and and the Vikings will
get their game on on Monday night to continue to
build for them. But yeah, I think I don't think
if the if Detroit had a more difficult schedule, if
they had Seattle schedule for exams, for instance, and we're
going to get to the Seahawks a little bit later,
I'd be very worried about a tailspin for this team,

(06:06):
because you've seen the golf and the offense really kind
of stumble, and this could be a slumper, it could
be the sign of an ugly come back to earth.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's probably closer to a slump.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
But the schedule is so soft that I think Detroit
is gonna be okay and get to that. You know,
eleven wins they you know, probably eleven, they feel to
me like eleven and six. That's gonna be enough, probably
to win the division. The Packers are now a team
of fascination for me because of love mostly, I mean,
and you're right about Lafleur, because you know, he was

(06:37):
taken on a lot of criticism early in the season,
and I think there was some like, you know, kind
of sideway glances like he was being exposed now without
Aaron Rodgers. But instead you look at this team now
as they have as we head toward the final stretch
after Thanksgiving, and he's got Jordan Love playing at a
high level. For the last few weeks, he was an

(06:58):
excellent quarterback and that's a huge benefit or a credit
to an offensive minded coach like Lafleur. So he has
the offense cooking. The big plays continue to be a
part of things. Christian Watson is coming out of his shell.
I think he's gonna have a big close to the
season now. And yeah, I like the Packers as a
team that can make the playoffs, and.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I would not have predicted that a couple of weeks ago.
Did we fork them?

Speaker 4 (07:25):
I don't think we did.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Know, Okay, good, I have no recollection whatsoever of our
four community. They do have the Chiefs, you know, next week,
but after that all the games are winnable, and so
I'm with you. But even if they don't make the playoff,
whatever happens this season is somewhat about Jordan Love the
GM goota cunts. I think he said that. I don't
remember if that was that the bye week ORF, it

(07:47):
was after the bye week of Like, you know, this
is an important stretch here for Jordan Love. And I
think back to that Rams game, and I do think
that's when it all changed. I know that the box
score wasn't crazy in that game they won twenty to three,
but his decision making was really good. And then he
played well again the next week against the Steelers, and
I remember saying at the time of the show, I
thought those are his best two games of the season

(08:09):
in a row. I know he had some nice touchdown
interception ratio early in the season, felt a little fluky,
felt a little fake to me, to be honest, Like
he had some nice throws, but it wasn't him doing
it in these last four weeks, and you saw it
yesterday was some next level quarterback stuff. He's a very
weird quarterback, but he passes the test where if he's protected,
he could obviously make some big plays. They cooked up

(08:30):
the Lions in play action. They attack their weaknesses deep
down the field, and they're not good deep down the field.
But the thing I like about him is you see
that side arm angle to Heath early in the game.
You saw the accuracy on the touchdown to read. But
if you kind of go through his snaps on a
snap to snap basis, he seems like a quarterback. Like
he seems like he's making decisions, he's recognizing blitz as

(08:51):
he's getting a second and third reads. I think he
makes some crazy throws and he's not the most accurate
quarterback in the world. So there's a little ups and downs,
But like the processing, the men mentality of it all
is like, Okay, this is a quarterback, and if if
he keeps building off this, if he plays like this
at all for the rest of the season, it's like, Okay,
we've got year two of Jordan Love in this very
affordable contract, and we at least know we're going into

(09:12):
year two with him still as our quarterback.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, i'd also, you know, we on Thursday we noted
like the laundry list of injuries that the Packers had
coming into this game, and so a lot of that
play action happened without Aaron Jones in the lineup. And
like earlier on in the year, when Aaron Jones was
lost for a long stretch of time, like it really
handicapped and capsized the offense, and like yesterday that just
was not the case, like aj Dillon did just enough

(09:37):
for him. But the aggressive nature of what Lafleur has
loved doing, I think is very exciting for Packers fans
because I don't know about a month ago, I was like,
I don't know about this Jordan love thing. It's like,
we'll see, like he seems very middle of the road,
and there has been like tangible, visible growth and their
young wide receivers are growing along with him. The same
way I felt about like the Steelers coming into the

(09:57):
year with all these like young weapons and I don't
think they're weapons at all. Happened across the board in
Pittsburgh is how I feel about Green Bay now. So
it's like I thought yesterday was one of these games
like changed the way a lot of people feel about
two different teams.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
On the other side, at the quarterback position, we've touched
on it briefly here, but I thought Gough was terrible
and he's coming off a multiple turnover game the week before,
but this time the ball security was woeful at riding
me of the late period with the rams. He was
missing throws as well. There were miscommunications with his wide receivers.
They couldn't get on the same page. He was an

(10:33):
issue for them in this game. And if GoF is
not going to be his pristine self he's been for
the majority of his career with Detroit, then the defense
is going to be what it is right now. That
is the recipe for a lot of losses. Here's Dan
Campbell on his team's sudden swoon again.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
And the easy thing is to get in panic mode.
And I know you know what it looks like, and
it wasn't good enough out there, But I'm not paniced.
We got the right guys here. We know how to play.
We got to clean some things up and we'll have
six to go when we get back, and the fight's on, man.
I mean, I think there's gonna be some cruise control.
We're gonna have to fight and scratch and fight and

(11:08):
call for everything. Man.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
We have to.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
That's the type of team we are. That's where we're at.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
All right, any other thoughts on this game?

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Boys, I thought I thought we saw a little bit
from Jamison Williams, But I want to just note that
one of our listeners chimed in with something I'd mentioned
on the Thursday show about I thought, you know, various
matronly aunts around the country would take a look at
Sam laporter who had a nice start to the game.
Then the thing went sideways. But I don't know if
we have this.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Tweet, Eric, let's hear it out loud.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Okay, So another prophecy fulfilled. My aunt, well not matronly,
definitely took notice of Sam Laporta during the Lions game.
She's also not a football fan. They showed him and
golf in quick succession. So I verified and she even
parroted back Laporta's name.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
It is a weird tweet.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
It is a weird tweet, but I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Quiet storm.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I think everything about it is.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Ques whether this is this is like real or it's
a Mark shadow.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Or a Mark burner. Mark, did you write that?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I don't even use uh like X myself much.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Less have about the truth.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
No.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I just saw it this morning and it caught my
eye that, like you know, I I think it's just
matching it up on like the aunt archetype individual with
Sam Laparda. Laporta's like physical being.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
He's a he's a he's a young, beefy young guy,
a young gronk.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Was your prediction that he was hot and would notice
I thought that he would have a massive game.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
No, it was more that, like, you know, the aunt
who's not football like enthused, would be in the room
and just notice him the physical specimen.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, you mentioned the O line, like there's a weird
sort of almost analytics off about how good this old
line actually is, because like everyone thinks it's one of
the best lines in the league. It's certainly like, for instance,
grades as one of the elite lines in the league.
Pass rush win rate, run black win rate not so great. Certainly,
the eyeball test the last couple of weeks not so great.

(13:10):
And Jared Goff, more than any quarterback in the NFL,
is impacted by pressure and and just turns into a
totally different dude. So it's like, I don't know, They've
had a couple injuries and y Tie is not coming back.
I don't believe. And it's interesting because I think the
whole idea with Campbell was we're gonna be great on
the lines, and they're d line with Hutchinson and McNeil.

(13:31):
Even though those two players are both good, they're bad
and so now like they just don't get enough pressure
and their cornerbacks they're bad. That's a bad combo, not
enough pressure and bad cornerback. So on one side, you
got some issues. On the other side, if the O
line starts creaking, then you're right, Dan, But I'm not
panicking in both of these games. It's like, even in
a bad game, they still get like four hundred and

(13:52):
sixty four yards. They're gonna move the ball like I
know it was.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
There was a garbage lipstick on the pig there late too.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Greg, absolutely, but they were moving the ball when they're
not turning it over seven times in the last two
weeks or whatever. All I'm saying is like they're going
to be getting first downs. They are a nasty running team.
I'm not too worried about them there, but the defense
is like legit bad. And if they're the home team
and they're it's all about it. We're a ways away
from the playoffs, but they are the team the five

(14:19):
or the six seed might want to be playing here
in the playoffs because you could put up a forty burger.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
If I'm a Detroit fan. I'm I'm not letting it
be known. I'm a little bit nervous right now.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
That's what ID degree, A little bit.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Analytics off. Greg. You said that sounds like the worst
time ever.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
And by the way, I did last night watched the
Barry sanderstock on Amazon and reminded you of his greatness
and also the you know, the struggles of being a
Lions fan, especially from the perspective of Eminem, Jeff Bridges
and Tim Toole time Allen. Why does that document he
was always have to be back. We need to get

(15:01):
these celebrity sports fans. And it's like like Tim Allen
was in this documentary for like maybe two lines.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I watched the first hour maybe so far. I was
waiting for Walker to get back. On whatever night that was,
he went to the Lakers game with the front and
I did not see Tim Allen. I haven't gotten quite
to the end, but I thought when Jeff Bridges said
he identified with Barry.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
That was incredible.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I loved it that Barry was just a man the life,
the juice. It's all from when the whistle blows to
when the whistle stops and anything other than that. He
doesn't need, Just like Jeff Bridges, there's a certain type
of actor when they call cut to when they call cut,
that's that's when it that's when it matters, and other than.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
That, it's nothing.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
So yeah, parallel, it was kind of crazy to watch
Barry Sanders now and those those clips don't age at
all and you're like, oh, yeah, that would still be
by far the best run back in the league.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
It's Sanders story, which I think I've shared on the show,
and I was hoping he was going to make it
into the dock, but nobody contacted me. Is when our
old boss, Justin Hathaway Mark worked us eighty hours for
that first Super Bowl in Indianapolis Giants Pats two, and
he had me cover the flag football a celebrity flag
football game, and Barry Sanders is on the game. It

(16:21):
was on one of the teams and was not involved
with the offense. They were running the offense through Maria
Minunos and Barry Sanders is there. Nobody's even talking to him,
and I'm like, that's like maybe the greatest running back
who ever lived.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
That's an odd that's not approach to offense. It feels
like a chip Kelly invention.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
All right, good stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
And the Packers, by the way, thank you Eric Roberts.
Seventeen players were on the injured list in that game
as well. They had no business going there and bullying
the lines in that spot.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
So interesting.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
All right, let's move to the middle game. And by
the way, we did fork the Panthers, Pats, Broncos, Bears, Cardinals,
and then I belatedly and my apologies, uh I forked
the Giants.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
So those are the four teams. Maybe we'll revisit it
in the upcoming week.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Broncos, you know, making a sweat a.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Little bit, a little bit, a little bit time.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
All right, let's head to Big d where the Cowboys
were not in the mood for any type of competitive contest.
Second and ten as a Dallas forty three howls back
throws it.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh my god, god, it's playing. It's plain.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
He's got one, no way twenty he touch left, he
breaks the tackle of the cat.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Stop is he's did it?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
But god, the whole defense is going on the land
of the kettle.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
That is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's the most pick sixers in one season.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
In NFL history. Five touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Where did you come from?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Great call and what you if you watch on YouTube
you could see it, or if you watched live yesterday,
Dan Quinn up in the booth, the DC, the Cowboys
going absolutely apes celebrating Deron Bland setting the NFL record for.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Pick sixes in the season, I mean his fifth, the
fifth of the season.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Kyle Pitts has four career touchdowns in his whole like
NFL career.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Doron Bland is a quarterback. He's got five pick sixes
this year. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
And that was just the little like stamp at the
end of the game because the Cowboys offense absolutely obliterated
the Commanders, got their DC fired. We're going to talk
about it. Forty five to ten from Jarro World. This
was mark a total celebration of the Cowboys, the brand,
and their standing as one of the very.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Elite teams in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
It was and you know, I've been critical of the
Cowboy experience over the years, but not in this version
of what we saw, because they have been doing this
at home all year long. They are five and zero
at home and have outscored opponents two hundred and five
points to sixty in those five wins. That's insane. But
it is not nearly as insane as what Deron Bland

(19:16):
has done. It's like, Ceedee Lamb has six touchdowns and
he's a superstar. To like, the degree of difficulty of
what Deron Bland has done is wild to me. That
was not These aren't like, you know, picked off at
the goal line like what we saw in the Seahawks
Niners game. It's like, that's a sixty three yard return
and it's done it over and over, and it's like,
I don't there are certain football records that we can

(19:38):
argue matter or don't matter. This matters because he's helping
the team when he's pouring on points at the end
of the game. It's the kind of thing for me
that it's like, I don't know if we'll ever see
this again. This could be the kind of thing where
you could go fifty years or for us, we're not
going to be here for maybe fifty more years. You
never know, like it could be a long time before
anyone touches this because it's such a confluence of insane

(20:00):
things happening. It's not just being in the right place
at the right time, but you also have to be
the athlete to do what he's done. Like on that return,
how easy would it have been a thirteen year old return?
You get clipped, you're down the ground. It's just kind
of magical. And I know that like it completely electrified
that stadium, their owner, the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Well, are you saying I'm not gonna live to ninety four?

Speaker 4 (20:22):
That's my I did not guarantee that, Greg.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I'm so much.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Older than you, Greg that you know, according to the
two of you, that I was more suggesting perhaps I
won't see that record.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Bro, You'll be if you make it, you'll be triple digits.
And that's that is pretty wild.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
That would be wild. That's a long time from now.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
This Cowboys team does feel different now. Could they lose
in the second round of the playoffs, of course they
could because like I don't I don't think they're a
step apart from these other teams, but they do. They
do have everything they need right now, and the most
important thing is just Dac dots down the field. He's
he's so comfortable and Romo. I know he gets over excited,

(21:04):
but I don't think he says things like this might
be the best offensive line in the league right now,
especially in terms of pass protection willy nilly, and they
are just playing out standing up front. Now everyone looks
out standing up front against this Commander's pass rus it
doesn't exist. But he's throwing the ball deep down the field.
That's eighteen vertical throws for a touchdown this year, according

(21:26):
to next Gen Stats, way more than any other player,
and fourteen of those are in like the last six weeks.
So this is a bombs away offense. And I thought
these last couple of weeks it's almost like they're working
on things that they'll need in bigger games. They got
Gallup and Cooks involved last week, and then this week.
I thought Pollard ran really well. I know it was
only thirteen carries, but from quarter one quarter two when

(21:48):
it mattered, they were consistently running the ball and that
was excellent. It was actually not a game they were
dominating in total yardage through three quarters or anything, but
they were getting everything they wanted to done. I think
fifteen of their first twenty six plays or first downs.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
This was in many ways the ultimate Cowboys game, at
least in terms of the regular season. The game on
Thanksgiving with the Salvation Army Red kettle out for the
first time you have a blowout of a hated rival.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
You have Doron Bland making history.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
You have Dak once again saying I am a very
real MVP candidate. You had a certain celebrity that I'll
get to in a moment. At halftime, Jared Jones was
over the moon with this one.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
This is so real day.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
I wouldn't even day or as much as I imagine
or as big as I might dream or think.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
I couldn't have.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Drawn for daylight today. Yet I couldn't have imagined it.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
It really covered a lot of ground. And don't you
get the feeling that.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
The just the atmosphere And maybe Jane Slater would be
the best person to asked this question too. But when
things are going well for the Cowboys, it just seems
everyone when you see those like group interviews and stuff
around Jered like everything is good. Everybody's in a good mood.
The Cowboys are kicking butt and and spirits are high.
And if Jerry's spirits are high, you can tell that
whole vibe around that team is glowing.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
And that's certainly where it is right now.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
I'm totally with you. I think he's really well liked.
I'll never forget actually being in Dallas a number of
like Thanksgivings ago, it's like two thousand. Drew bledsoe era
and went with my uncle and cousins too of the
Cowboys game, and I watched Jerry Jones before kickoff individually
shake hands with I would say roughly four hundred people

(23:38):
like he took that time. So it's like it is
his baby, it's his thing. We've always known that, and
I've always felt like there's always like an era of
like hyperbole to anything he says about the team. But
in this case, this season and yesterday, I did not
feel that. I think it was like a this is
a different Cowboys team to me than one that we've

(23:59):
experienced together.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
On this show, he was quoted as part of that
scrum is saying I'll put some super Bowls in there.
I don't know if I've ever had a better day
with the Cowboys than today, and that that's all about Thanksgiving.
Like I believe that he believes that in the moment
he's saying that, in the moment, Thanksgiving is the ultimate
Cowboys holiday celebration. Wes and I love this book Billy

(24:21):
Fountains Long Halftime Walk, which is a great book sort
of about the NFL and military service and and football
and how and it's set on Thanksgiving at these games
and there's something so American for for good and bad
like about all this. And the Cowboys putting a bang
thing on the Commanders is like.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
That, I'm sorry, what's bad about it? Out of the
out of curiosity?

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Well, read the book, I would say, like some of
the ways.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I was talking about just yesterday, Okay, the book nothing.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Bad, yes, just the over the top sort of the
way they used that it was written for the perspective
I was a military guy.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, because and Greg is very well known for putting
myself in line on this, the celebration of people being
fired from their jobs because the Cowboys decimated the Washington
defense to the point that the new owner of the team,
Josh Harris, fired defensive coordinator Jack del Rio after the game.

(25:19):
They also parted ways with defensive backs coach Brent Wisselmeyer.
So tough Friday. Here is a missive from the new
owner of the Commanders. We haven't heard from him obviously
a lot. He just succeeded Daniel Snyder a couple months ago.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I feel exactly how our fans.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Feel today disappointed and frustrated. It's how our players and
staff feel as well. I knew our first season of
ownership would include challenges along the way, and we will
not shy away from hard work, nor.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Will we be deterred by adversity.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
As coach Rever and I discussed, all of our energy
for the remainder of the season will be focused on
playing better, more consistent football and developing our players well,
intently evaluating the areas in which we need to improve
this offseason. Our fans deserve a team that can compete
with the NFL's best and win sustainably over the long term.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I will not waiver from that mission.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Okay, so strong words there from the new owner, and
it did make me think when I heard this morning
guys that you know, we talked about a couple of
weeks ago, that the setting an environment in the league
right now is very, very ripe for mass dismissiles at

(26:35):
the end of the year, head coaches in danger. And
what do head coaches and dangers do when there's an issue.
You start firing your assistance and you start reshuffling the decks.
So I feel like we're seeing a lot of that
the last a week or so, and now Washington's doing
it as well. But I just think it's a little unfair,
you know, to candel Rio and the defensive backs coach,
when you just traded away like your two most impact

(26:56):
players on the defensive line, two of your most impactful players,
and what did you expect in this setting? Honestly, I
guess you could be more competitive.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
But still I think it's it's warranted only because this
defense has been in It's Ron Rivera's defense. So it's
a weird move because like Ron Rivera's on was certainly
going to get fired at the end of the Year's
almost a move that signals to me, look, we we
want Ron Rivera to land this thing, but we want
to show our fans we want to do something now,

(27:24):
and we're not going to fire Rivera till the end
of the season or maybe Week eight team whatever it is. Uh,
but this this is a really poorly coach defense. I
thought del Rio was an uninspired hired to begin with.
He lasted a while, and no team has more like
coverage bus over the last four years than del Rio.
They're either really awesome like or they're terrible, and there's

(27:45):
nothing in between there was a scout for the that works.
I think for Cowboys dot Com Brian Brotus, who pointed
out on the Cooks touchdown, they've run that route a
lot all season. But the only team that like fell
for it like a banana and the tailpipe and played
it so poorly all year was Washington and they had
to walk in touchdown.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah, they were thirty second in DVOA. It's weird because
under del Rio there were seventh last year, twenty seventh
the year before that, and fourth, so they've been all
over the map. I'm with you, Dan in the sense
that I just think it was more of a statement
move or a try. I look like what you just read.
It's like a signal to the fans, like we're not
just sitting pat, we see what you see. We're as

(28:24):
frustrated as you are. I just part of me wonders
that maybe Ron Rivera is allowed to land the plane,
as you said, Greg, but I do wonder if maybe
this would be an opportunity, if you want to go
interim to see what Eric the enemy could do for
a stretch of time here.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I think this, I think this really signaled we're not
going to do that I mean, you know what I mean,
like today would have been the day to do it.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
I would I I guess the problem there then he's
he'll get swept out too potentially. It's like it's another
time he's done a good.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Just over yep, right by the let's give it up Arthy,
come on, now he's got this team humming.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
He does remember when Kellen Moore left in the offseason,
everybody their little jabs like, oh, he's gonna run the offense,
how imaginative Texas Coast offense is?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Humming?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Okay, you're right, and I like, by the way, they've
set up a really nice stretch run. Now they'll be
heavy favorites over the Seahawks, but that's still an interesting game.
And then Eagles Bill's Dolphins Lions really fun stretch run.
We got a lot of Actually I looked at all
these contenders schedules, there's a lot of good regular season
games left. The schedule makers did nice.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Nicely done, Greg.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
And finally, I thought the best part of this middle game,
because it wasn't overly competitive as you could see, was
Tony Romo just yeah, basically losing control of his emotions
when talking about Dolly Parton's halftime performance while wearing a

(29:59):
Cowboys a cheerleader uniform.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
She's like eighty years old.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
It's very impressive, Dolly, and she's a national treasurer and
we love her, but nobody loves her more like Tony Romo.
Please watch this or listen, and you could hear Jim
Nance getting and getting increasingly concerned as Tony can't move
off the idea of Dolly Parton in a Dallas Cowboys
cheerleaders universe. The field is all set after the Dolly performance,

(30:23):
we are the champions, and she.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Was wearing the Cowboys cheerleading outfit. I saw that coming.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Did I think she's gonna go with a little cheerleading
outfit tonight?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
And I was like, wow, it's pretty good. What do
you think we're gonna see me? She looks amazing. You
never know what's gonna happen here. Who doesn't like Dolly
part Now? She's absolutely an American treasure, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
And you are too fast becoming as you look at
the quarterback comparison.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
I've got like another take on Dolly that might even
top this from our old friend on the show, Mary
Kay Cabot. She's actually over in Deck mentioned here was
a tweet from Mary kay Cabot. Yesterday, I'm Dolly sitting
on the couch watching some football, like a big stuff Turkey,
and then Dolly happened, hopped on the treadmill, booked a

(31:13):
consultation for implants and reassessed my life's goal LF let's
let's f and go Mary kay Cabot feeling no pain
on Thanksgiving out.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
There, no feeling good, feeling real good.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
That is unlike any other Mary kay Cabot tweet. Ever,
it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
The kind of the glow in Romo's face is really
what takes it to the next lot.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Like he's not ready to get back to being an
analyst at that point.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Nance feeling Nance tried so hard to get out of that.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
NaN's desertly trying to pivot. But you know, like everybody's
got to stop clutching their pearls. And you know what,
Tony's right, that was incredible. And Dolly Parton, you know,
if you want to do some And I didn't really
know Dolly that well other then how everyone else knows her,
but she is My wife loves Dolly Parton and she

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is an incredible kind of humanitarian and the amount of
charity she does in addition to being obviously very talented
actress and singer and all that.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
See now I'm romoing out to her.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
No, I think it's appropriate. You've done You've done a
nice job, and we didn't try to sidetrack you off
of that.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
All right, Uh, let's take a break.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Just, you know, talk a little more dolly off mic
and then when we come back, we'll hit.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
The primetime game. All right, we are back Mark Sessler
in the v neck.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
There is one other Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Note.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
I don't know about you guys, but this, like this
is more of like a parabolic mic item. I think,
depending on you know, game to game. It's an island
game in the middle of the day. Dak Prescott's pre
snap cadence. Can we just play this, producer Eric, please.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Producer Ic?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Did you yet?

Speaker 4 (33:11):
It's like three hundred and forty seven times this played
during the game yesterday, and it just seemed to get
louder and louder, and it's like, I don't know, is
it to tell as a as a pre snap cadence.
I love how he says it, It just it doesn't
sound like a human almost.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Well, it's it's his uh Grenatine Grenadin, you know, it's
it's his thing, and he's been he's been going hard
at it now for a month plus. I would say, yeah,
here we go to the I'm just saying that sometimes
just in my everyday life, just yeah, here we go.
And I think it's a nice way to just set

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off a conversation.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
Like.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
A Creed rips into my sacrifice in the encore, and
then half the audience does this.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
I feel like some of these quarterbacks like they know
what we're going to talk about it, and like do
they lean in from an inflection or vocal point on
some level to make it a little even more absurd
than it needs to be. I think we all know
what he's trying to say.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Well, I got to tell you this, Mark. I haven't
released my top five Cadence rankings for the season. It's
an annual event people really look forward to. But between
his voice, how strong his pipes are, and and the
unique nature of yeah, here we go, I mean he's
a strong favorite for number one this year.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I'm gonna go, like with you with MVP talk, it's
too early to talk about the Caenance rankings. Yet you're
not allowed to now.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
It's it's by the way, it's not too early anymore.
My point now is that like whatever's happened to this
point almost doesn't matter. It's still going to be moving forward.
Dak started it yesterday. That was a nice, nice one
because everyone's watching that game.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
That's it's like the most one as opposed to the
other Cowboys games that nobody was watching.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Right, nobody watched any of those. Speaking of which has good?
What does a sham god did with that call?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Sham good?

Speaker 5 (35:04):
You know?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
And we're talking Nance and Romo. What a job by
Jim Nance on the Deran Bland. Uh call there. I
loved seeing Nance getting excited in a big spot. Let's
hear it.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Second and ten there it is, this is history.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
The plan could take.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
It to discharge.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
This will be the record by for the fifth time.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Has a pig six It's never happened in the history
of the NFL.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
And want a call by you?

Speaker 1 (35:36):
You got me with goosebumps Nance.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
That was unbelievable, excellent, you're right, accent call by Nance,
who's a Hall of Fame broadcaster and uh and it's
also a very Romo move to his first analysis is
on the call by Jim Nance.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
I wish he didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
No, he didn't need to do that, but he can't.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I think that's part of like the give and take
with Romo, like he just's his exuberance. He just he
just says what's on his mind, like the Dolly Parton
situation from minutes ago. All right, let's get to the
final game. This one was also a one sided affair.
Well first and goal, eight yard lines left, tossed to
McCaffrey coming left, stacked up, Stay's patient, scorns through and takes.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
It all the way down to the goal line. Touchdown.
See and see what a run that one?

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Cmct CB A slow fuse on that one.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Because there was nowhere to go an McCaffrey taking care.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Of pisit man?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
They love the acronyms over there, Greg popping Tim Ryan
with the call. Awesome, awesome performance by Christian McCaffrey. Who
if now Greg has Dane that we're allowed to talk
about the MVP race man?

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Where is he in the conversation? Producer? Eric is a
mark referred to you earlier? I called you human, Eric.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Eric's can you see? Or Eric, can you see? But
where Christian McCaffrey is in the Vegas MVP odds because
he deserves to be there. He ran for a buck
fourteen and two scores in the first half, putting the
forty nine Ers ahead, and they cruised to a thirty
one to thirteen win over the fading Seattle Seahawks, who

(37:26):
are in a lot of trouble Gregy.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
The Niners did what.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
They wanted on offense, and even the Seahawks touchdown came
on a pick six. So yeah, this was dominance on
both sides.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
It couldn't be one more one side, and I think
has a lot of soul searching going on in Seattle.
Let's talk about the team that matters the most here
first and that that's the forty nine Ers. And watching
this game, it occurred to me, like Kyle Shanahan's forty
nine Ers system, essentially, this offense has now been there
for seven years. It's been in an NFL where a

(38:03):
lot of things change, Like he this has been an
awesome offense that's brilliantly constructed and play called for a
while now, it's been a great run and to me,
this is this is the best one and it's the
best one because of Party, first of all, and because
he elevates their offense in a way that Jimmy g

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and certainly any of the other backups never did. And
because they're healthy, which they often aren't right now, they
are healthy, and that's when they weren't winning games a
couple of weeks ago. That that was a big part
of it. But also because these guys have been there
now for a while. Outside of Purty, Deebo and a
Yuk and Kittle and Trent Williams and even a lot

(38:49):
of a lot of the line's been there for a
while and it's all just coming together and they've they've
been so close every year and I'm not saying they
couldn't be close in another year, but man, you look
at this Shanahan thing, it just feels like, Man, this
is the time. Listen, this is the team. This is
the team to do it.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Yep, I absolutely feel the same way. It's it is
so key that they stay healthy. When all five of
their offensive stars have been on the field together for
full games, they've been undefeated. That shouldn't change. They're so dominant.
I think it really mattered last night to see that
you got Deebo Samuel as the core element. Again, he's
such a change agent. But it's like, we talk about

(39:29):
the offense as we should, but their defense is an
absolute destroyer. I mean what they did last night. At
one point in the first half, the Niners had sixteen
first downs and the Seahawks had run eighteen plays and
it never really got better for Seattle. And I mean,
you know, the same way that you know the first
game changed the way we thought about Detroit and Green Bay.

(39:52):
I'm looking at a Seattle you know schedule where you've
got to go to Dallas, you got the Niners and
then the Eagles. I don't know it feel it kind
of feels like curtains to me, and is brilliant as
Pete Carroll is at all times. I thought the look
on his face at the end of that game spoke volumes.
I think they're in a bit of a dark corner
that will be hard to escape from.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Here are the MVP odds, by the way, Jalen at
plus two fifty what this from DraftKings Lamar plus three
fifty mahomes plus four twenty five two of plus five
fifty DAK plus eight fifty CMC plus sixteen hundred these
is so annoying.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Come on, right, I think, yes, sixteen touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Why is Jalen Hurts the favorite? DAK was plus three
thousand a couple of weeks ago, So if you caught
on at any time, I think that's still value. And
where where is Tyreek Hill? Who's literally my vote right now?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Greg? Nobody likes Tyreek Hill. I think that factors in.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
That's just positioned on against McCaffrey. Though, yeah, I don't
think that factor is he's plus four thousand. I don't
think that factors into the draftking odds. But I hear you.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Right now, he has some rough stuff in his personal history.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Let's see, let's get back to it. So, yes, McCaffrey,
I believe he's got sixteen touchdowns this year and he's dominant.
Brock Purdy statistically not his best game. He threw that
pick six. I mentioned that briefly made the game somewhat
interesting in the third quarter, but also kind of put
a stamp on the game and put the game away

(41:31):
with a beautiful throat to Brandon Nyuk in zone coverage,
and Shanahan after the game made a point to really
pump up Purdy in that spot. He said, you know,
that is a play where we have something underneath a
little checkdown that could have went for twelve yards. So
when he decides to put it over the middle on
a line from about thirty yards out, that is a

(41:53):
high level throw. And I think it gets to mark
what we were talking about on Wednesday about you know,
Purdy and the kind of season he's having and this
like we act like he's this little boy that was
plucked out of obscurity.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
That's a high level football throw.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
So, yeah, he might not have the arm talent of
those other quarterbacks we mentioned just now, but he's got
enough to make it happen when he's pulling the trigger
and using his instincts for good.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Yeah, I love that you brought up that throw because
I think that's an argument in favor of the fact
that this quarterback has elevated the play of Brandon Ayuk,
who I mean, Brandon Ayuk was for multiple years in
a row talked about this will be the year he
totally breaks out and becomes a start. Has a lot
to do with him, but it has a lot to
do with Purdy as well, and like their connection has
been essentially flawless for weeks on end, and that throw

(42:43):
was not the kind of throw that like a mid
tier quarterback that we'd want to write off as a
system guy makes. And now I look at those MVP
odds and it's like, where is Perdy? To be honest,
it's like I find that to be slightly absurd that
he's not near, like in the top five, top six
of that list, if not higher. I think it's just
we're looking at a perception problem when it comes to

(43:04):
brock Party in this offense.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Here's the thing. If they get the one seed, and
I'm not ruling them out of that, like he's got
a chance. It's stupid the fact that Jalen's plus two fifty,
because that's just like they have the one seed. And
I just love the way they started this game. I
think of NBA teams, you talk about two man games
a lot, just like the two stars kind of playing
off each other, you know, Porzingis and Jalen Brown right now,

(43:28):
beautiful two man game. They got a two man game
going with CD, I mean with Debo and CMC and
where they're just using them interchangeably and matching them up,
and they have the Seahawks defense had no freaking clue
what to do the first couple drives of that game.
Shanahan just owns this matchup. He owns Pete Carroll, who's
a defensive coach. When when the forty nine ers have

(43:49):
the ball and the way they use those two guys
is it's pretty beautiful.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
It's funny, and that's obviously credit to Kyle Shanahan, the
offensive mastermind.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
I like this thing that's going on this show.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
I feel like there's been an uptick in it this
year of just like shots to Mike Shanahan, Kyle's father
sitting stonefaced in the stands with that shock of white
hair and a lot of like, younger fans don't even
know that Mike Shanahan. Kyle Shannan is who who he
is in large part because of Mike Shanahan, who was
a genius in his own right and won multiple Super Bowls.

(44:22):
And now Kyle has kind of taken the league over
and it is that dude Seattle, You're right, had no answers.
It looked like Reek Wollan got benched in this game,
although Carol downplayed it afterwards, but he was he misstackles,
he said it. Carol said after the game that he
had a bad shoulder, but he was playing special teams
after they took him out of the game for Michael Jackson.
So I mean, you talk about Reek Wollan was one

(44:43):
of the best young additions to the league last year
and now he's on the bench on.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
The offensive side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Obviously, Gino Smith is dealing with the arm injury, but
this offense just is not humming anymore. Greg And if
Gino is not physically right, and we'll have to see,
he played that game with a big kind of like
not on his throwing elbow, maybe.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
It is that time to have a jewe Lock conversation.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
But at the same time, like nobody was like pumping
the brakes on the Drew Block experience harder than me
a couple of years back in Denver. It's not necessarily
a great second option. But the offense has hit a rut.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
They're disappointed, Like everything about this team is disappointing. They're
six and five, And what you said about the Packers
and the Vikings can get in is in large part
because the Seahawks can fall right out of this thing.
I mean, think about these two games against the Ravens
where absolutely this game in the Ravens game where absolutely
Gino didn't excel. But and he's not gonna be able

(45:36):
to elevate things going really wrong around him. But find
a spot on this team that's not getting blasted. They
spent their whole offseason building up this defensive line, completely
changing it, spending tons of money, draft picks. They got
young guys coming at Draymont Jones, they trade for Leonard Williams.
They get blown off the ball, They can't tackle anyone.
Seem see their defensive rookie of the Year, Tarik Willans

(45:57):
getting benched. Their linebackers are slow. DK metcalf is having
one of the worst seasons for US for a quote
unquote superstar wide receiver. The guy can't make a catch.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
I was gonna, I'm telling you the club I think
greg I had.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
I think.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
So he's killing my guy, Gino. Gino's not great, but
two drops that killed Drives. And then when it's fourteenth
to three and you're trying to change the game, and
that could have been a touchdown or at least a
fifty yard play down the field, and DK just drifts
and drifts and trust me, Seahawks fans have been losing
their mind over DK's play in this game, and then
their own lines stunk in this game. Most of those
sacks were quick sacks. So it's like, I just don't

(46:33):
see what they're they're good at. They maybe they're average
enough to win nine games again, but man, it's it's
pretty disappointing.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
It's very This is also one matchup that they've they've
just they cannot solve. And I think, like last year
on Thursday Night, like Sharvariusward versus DK Metcalf was physical
and it went both ways. Like last night, he was
just taken out of the game DK Metcalf and and
then you got nowhere to go.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I'll give the final word to Christian McCaffrey, who deserves
to be way better than plus six thousand, because he has.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Been sixteen hundred buddy by the way, sixteen sixteen accuracy sick,
thank you, and Purty's plus three thousand, number eight, so
he's sort.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Of in the max but not really ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
One of the things I like about the write ups
by the AP and others on Thanksgiving is like just
like a lot of turkey talk, Just like turkey talk
slips in there, and I want to hear this quote
from McCaffrey because I'm reading it and I'm like, man,
this guy's really going into detail about this turkey. And
it's like slotted in between two like beefy graphs about

(47:37):
the you know, and of this like statistics about this win.
And then you have all, right, here's I'm going to
drop in the CMC quote here and the guy just
going on and on about the turkey.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
That was awesome.

Speaker 6 (47:48):
It was actually really good turkey too. I have no
idea how they kept all of the dishes were hot.
I was bummed. I didn't get the sweet potato with
the marshmallows that I didn't I don't know if they
had the they had a fork, but then they you know,
we had to pick the turkey leg up. By that time,
I was eating the turkey. But the turkey was really good,
well cooked, wasn't dry at all, and like I said,
still hot, which was impressive for being, you know, twenty

(48:11):
minutes after the game. I don't know where they kept it,
but it was good turkey.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Somebody gives them, say an update, how they kept the
turkey warm?

Speaker 3 (48:19):
What did they use?

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Was it an oven kept on low?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Was it just covered and kept maybe in a microwave
with the microwave off?

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Like what what? How did they keep it?

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Was there one of those burners underneath, but they they
were very careful not to have the burner turned up
too high, you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Those things. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
They got to have it. They got to have a
kitchen somewhere in the bows of that stadium. But I
was thinking, as we're listening to that, like, man, I've rarely
heard CMC talk at length, and maybe that's why he
just gets super nerdy about turkeys, and that's.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Just he was just a matter there. That actually was
a quote from July. I mean, the guy, that's all
he talks about.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I gotta say, I watched this game with you know,
friends and their families and and a lot of kids
were there, and no moment all day popped to them
like George Kittle throwing that turkey leg up into the
crowd and running turkeys afterwards. That was huge in the
ten year old set they were talking about they wanted
to throw some turkeys. It was just like that pop.

(49:17):
So that was a nice, nice moment for Kittle to
really break.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
By that by that moment in my house, and I
still have a family here that stayed the night. The
Princess Bride had been turned on by that way.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Had late.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
We had a late as you wish anything else. No,
all right, I'm gonna go play football with some kids now, really, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Damn, I.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Hope people dominate them like that sounds a good spot
for you to really shine athletically.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yesterday we played also and it was tough because I
had to be We used to call it automatic QB,
but I think my son corrected me and say now
that they call it all QB or something. But anyway,
we had an uneven number, so I played QB and
it was tough when you automatic QB on both sides
because it's like Barrys anders in that flag football game.

(50:14):
Like I'm trying to distribute to all these kids and
there's so many mouths to feed, and nobody's happy.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
At the end of the game.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
You can't win QB because everyone thinks they should have
been targeted more.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
And here I am.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
I've completed probably about sixty or seventy percent of my
passes and half the kids can't even catch that's pretty
high percentage. And after the game, I'm being told that
I was leaving people out of the game plan. So
we got another game about to play this Now we
have even number because some people went home, and I'm
going to be playing defense and I'm going to be

(50:47):
very physical, and I'm going to send messages to those
who complained about my quarterback play, specifically my eldest son,
jack who thought that I cost him the game yesterday
by not throwing it to him literally every time. So
I'm gonna I want our friend Kareem What was it,

(51:08):
Kareem Jackson. Yeah, I'm hitting like Jackson in this game.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Okay, I wish I was there. I had not to
sound like Sessler when he plays in tennis with his family.
But we played a little football too yesterday, and I
almost thought I was dominating in the game so much
that I had to back off and not not be
as show offye with what was going on, like you said,
distribute it around. But the explosiveness was absolutely there, and

(51:36):
I was. I was very proud of my son. Though
to finish the game had a key Charvarius Ward like
pass breakup on me, so in a big spot, I
I ultimately didn't come through for the team, and he
just he knocked that thing out of my hands, like
Charvarius words.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
I mean, we've we've you know, we've played with Walker
in the past and you've seen that those innate dB skills,
So I'm not surprised to hear that update.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
I I don't really I like to keep my sons
in games where I'm involved, but very rarely do they
get the W And that's the way I was raised
as well. My dad and one on one basketball took
me into I was like a sophomore in high school.
To finally beat him, he did this back down move
in the post where he would back me down and

(52:18):
then he'd use his left arm as a clear out
and do a little jump hook and it was total bs.
And I would tell him that. I actually told him
that last week because we were reminiscing about it. And
when I finally beat him, it was all the more
rewarding and it was a changing of the guard athletically
within the family dynamic.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
And that's why I've.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Recovered due to me, you know, right, it talks about that.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
So when they beat me, they'll beat me, and that
will be a moment or they'll never beat me.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Perhaps as well. I'm like, now, I'm like Barry Sanders's
monster of a dad.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
No, that's good, dad, work the tennis court. I keep
the foot on the gas though, I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I know you do, buddy.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Never forget that Barry Sanders' dad on the day that
ran for two thousand yards in nineteen ninety seven, when
the first thing, excuse me, not at the two thousand
yard when he went to the Hall of Fame, Barrass Sanders'
dad for Santras' induction and gave the speech. The first
thing he said was that Jim Brown was the greatest

(53:19):
running back of all time. And then he said that
his son was the third greatest running back of all time.
And everybody was like, Who's what did he mean, who's
the second? He called himself the second greatest running back
of all time. Imagine now that's taking it to an extreme. Yes,
his dad was a handyman.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Right, and he literally did not play professional football.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Be nice to your kids. One day, they'll have to
take care of you, all right. Happy Thanksgiving weekend, everybody,
enjoy it. We'll be back on Sunday with the full
recap of both the Black Friday Jet Stoppins affair, Can't
wait and everything on Sunday. Until then, you know what

(54:06):
you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Heed the Car
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