September 5, 2023 • 59 mins
On the NFL's Official Hard Knocks Podcast, Dan Hanzus and Colleen Wolfe recap the fifth and final episode of the "Hard Knocks Training Camp with the New York Jets". Dan and Colleen start their recap by checking in on Dan and discussing how he feels after watching the series as a Jets fans (01:40). Dan and Colleen then wrap up a few story lines that they followed through out the series including the fate of a pair of young wide receivers (10:43) and one underdog (16:25). After the break, Dan and Colleen are joined by the legendary Keith Hanzus (20:50) and wrap up the show by casting their final votes for and revealing who is this season Hard Knocks MVP (34:40).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One of the biggest pet peeves I have as a
coach is when you're on a team that's not doing
very well and the opposing coach whose team is doing
well walks up to you at the fifty yard line says, man,
you guys, play hard.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You I don't want to play hard. I don't to
you up.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
That's the mindset. No one's talking about how we play
hard anymore. They're Peyton and that's exactly what you can want.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh that's my coat.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
From the Chris Wesley podcast Studio. It is the season
finale of the Hard Knocks podcast and Hard Knocks and
the show the show as well, what's more important decide
if I had I'm Dan Hansis, by the.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Way, and I'm Colleen Woolf.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Hello, that's Colleen wolf and you you grade very high
on the given factor.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
That was one of my favorite lines from the entire show.
Also wrote it down.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It does.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
That one that connected with me because sometimes when you
work with people or whatever in life, you want to
make sure that that factor is at a high or
an acceptable level.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We all got to be in it to win it.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I also, just going off of what Robert Sala just
had to say there when coaches go up to him
and say, man, you guys play hard? Okay, was it Belichick?
How many times has Belichick said that to him? Mc
dermott like, who was it that really got under his skin?
That's what I want to know.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Let's be honest that Jets have had two losing seasons
under Solace so far, so plenty of coaches have had
that opportunity to this point, but this is supposed to
be different. Collien and if I could offer a one
line synopsis of this fifth and final episode of Hard
Knocks to kind of an overview of the Jets in
(01:52):
general what we've seen this summer, that might be all
as well in Jetland. Or if we want to add
some dramatic sala Ian Salayan.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Sal Yeah, sala Ian salah.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Ian heft, we could call it where foolish crows come
to suffocate then free fall to their pitiful depths.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Yeah, I mean, out of context, it was weird, but
when we saw the full.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Thing, point is this team believes.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's a reflection obviously of the coaching staff led by
Robert sala and these five weeks served as a snapshot
of a team Connie an organization that is absolutely certain
of its place in the NFL right now.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
That confidence has never been higher.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Which you know, let's get into that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Here's DJ Reid, the cornerback, underrated cornerback of the Jets.
On Monday, had a zoom call with reporters and he
said this, I think we have the potential to be
the best defense in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Just stop there, stop there, we don't need it. But
he keeps going.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Honestly, I think we can be historical, not just the
best defense in the league, but I think we could
be a historical defense like the eighty five, eighty six Bears,
the lob Seahawks legion of Boom in twenty thirteen. I
think we could be that dominant if we just put
all the things together. And that's the side of the ball,
Colleen that doesn't use Aaron Rodgers, right.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I know.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
So what I'm kind of getting from you right now
is like a little a little stress, maybe a little
anxiety style because everyone is so confident and hard knocks
really put together this like beautiful image of this Jets
team that has everything going right, all the pieces are
(03:42):
in place.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The future is theirs to grab.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
And take hold of and do whatever they want to
do with it, you know, unless something catastrophic happens, which
never happens to the Jets.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Right, And that's kind of the crux out.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's like the Jets, they of the seven game losing
streak that ends last season and the thirteen year and
counting playoff drought. They view themselves as major players with
championship upside. But now here's the hard part, Connie, they actually.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Have to like do it right.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So as I've really enjoyed as a fan this entire summer,
this spring, everything after Rogers's arrival, but I've got i
gotta like some nerves now and watching this finale and
seeing how high the confidence is that now they got
to go and do it. Here's defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrick,
who again gassing up this plane.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He believes, God, look around, this is it, this is it.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Let's go.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
It's all we got, it's all we need, guys, am
I whatever. Twenty plus years in this league, I have
never been around a collective group with such talent and
such character. And that's real, Like this is a special
group in so many ways. It's our time. That's not
(05:08):
just words on a PowerPoint. It's our time to dominate.
It's time to go.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I've bought in, I'm here for it. Listen, of all
of the teams.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Talk me down my anxiety down a little bit.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Well, I understand this because the first time, the year
that the Eagles won the Super Bowl, they had been
playing so well and everyone was so high on them,
and it made me feel so uncomfortable to actually hear
something positive, right that was real and happening with the Eagles.
But this team really is set up so well out
of all of the teams that kind of they grab
(05:42):
your attention and then they stab you in the heart
like the Chargers, you know, like you know, the Browns
have done so many times too. But the Jets actually
feel like they are about to turn this around. That
they are the logic checks out the precipice of greatness.
Here's what I tell listen, they have logic checks out defense.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Rookie of the Year. I mean, everything is, everything.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Is set right now for them. The table is set,
and now they just have to you know, they gotta do.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They gotta eat, They gotta eat. I mean, should I
be worried about the wall Finish the wall.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Finish the wall.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Finish the wall, all right, the finale.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
So yeah, finish the wall situation, which I kind of love.
They're going to basically take snapshots and scenes from every
game every week and then put it on the wall
that long hallway that we saw in the episode, and
so they did it for the preseason, and it's kind
of like their own destiny is in their hands and
they don't want that hallway to be filled with terrible photos,
(06:38):
and they wouldn't do that anyway. But I think that
that this is kind of like a cool, nice thing.
Also from like an Artsy's Dance Go ahead. I am
so in on this, Like I wish that I could
help vote what pictures are going to go up and
what wallpaper they will be using for each week.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I like it. I am You are a seventy seven
year old woman.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And doryd Toreen Waldenstein trapped in a young woman's body.
I enjoy that about you. I can picture you in
an upstair of an old house, in an attic, in
an attic, locked away in the attic, hardwood floors, heating
and air conditioning not great, but it's okay because you've
(07:19):
been given an easel and one window and you're just painting.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
You know, I paint right, yeah, bird watch.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The bird watch and you paint and it's a tourene corner.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
But the hallway finish the wall. That is a very
confident plan that they.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Have right and again I love it. I love that
this team believes. And when Jeff Ulbrich the DC talks
about how special the defense is, and when DJ reid
Uh does the same thing in a conference call with reporters,
I get it. But I think it's just six days
to kick off, and anxiety is setting in after what's
(07:57):
been such a great ride by the way, this hallway
and a great opening opening shot in the finale. Just
it's a one hundred yard hallway that butts up against
the practice field, the main practice field and Leev Schreiber,
who big year for Leev.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Let's go give it.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Up for Leev Schreiber, not only once again and whatever
Paul Rudd in the Chief season, get off the corner.
This is Leev's territory. And he got He was in
the opening credits, cry on sure he Chiron Chiron.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I was like, cry on.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That I missed opening Chiron for the first time.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
He took a damn helicopter to the practice field.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Shout out blade.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Shout out blade. How much who paid for it?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Probably the guy with the seven million dollar chain he
used for thirty five seconds in one episode. But anyway,
Leev does a great kind of opening monologue here.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
HBO is almost like, how much are we paying? Yeah,
we gotta get we gotta get the most of him.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
In episode five, here's here's a portion of it not
from Leev because he's a hugely successful actor and there's
all sorts of legal loopholes that preclude him from being
on an NFL media property like this one day maybe,
but we did get Jason Zumwalt in an old airport.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
It's true. The hall is dead straight, and every NFL
season has twists, so the metaphor is not perfect, but
it's not bad. Besides, the most important part of this
hallway is what lies at its end. Four letters that
now means something new. J E. T s. Today is
(09:40):
about learning who's earned the privilege of being called one.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I love the light music playing in the background.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Beyond music, is it just me? Or is that his
best delivery?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
I think he likes an audience apparently he was in
the airport doing it. Who knows were what little space
he carved out.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
For He must have looked nuts.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, probably love that.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
I know we were hoping that he would be in
an actual airplane, that he would have to do it
from the bathroom.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
With Sumwat's initial plan is flying fly. He was working
Louisiana heading back up to Connecticut. His initial plan was
to do it from an airport bathroom. And then he
and then he said to me, this is this is
great with Jay. He texted me, I'm gonna send it
to a guy. He has a guy that would filter
out the ambient sound of being in an airport bathroom
or in a plane bathroom. I was like, no, we
(10:32):
want that, we want the ambiance anyway. Good job by
Jay all season long, and uh leev, way to go, buddy.
So and he's teeing up who's gonna make the team? Yeah,
And the episode kind of starts on a very positive note.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Oh yeah, I can't complain you.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You've been nervous, man.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
How you feeling?
Speaker 6 (10:53):
It's been pretty good? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (10:55):
How do you think the preseason went?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
It's been pretty good, you know, yeah, well.
Speaker 9 (11:00):
You know, the odds are stacked against you from the
from the jump man. So you did a lot of
good things this camp man. Yes, so we appreciate your
hard work. Just want to let you know. Man, you're
in New York.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Jet a take out.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Hell, I know what you earned it you get, You're
gonna You're gonna do a lot of good things for us.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It's here.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Should Robert so all have be doing voice work just
as an aside. I mean, he has a great voice.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Uh Zumwal doesn't need more Competition's keep him on the sideline.
That was Xavier Gibson, one of the wide receivers young
wide outs that made the team. Jason Brownly also made
the team and also got the fake out treatment by
Oh by the way, oh Joe Douglas. He's actually with
the organization. He finally saw in episode five.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
He is alive and well.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I remember in the twenty ten Jets Hard Knocks Mike
Tannenbaum the GM at the time, you actually they were
showing Mike on the field trying to catch as many
punts as possible in his arms and like stumbling and falling.
I remember FRANCESSA on New York d be like that's
a clown. Shown.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
That's why Joe Douglas didn't show up until Nally as
the Euro Yes, I love this was very wholesome and
pure because we had mentioned that we hadn't really gotten
a lot of uh, you know, inner workings of the
coaches kind of standing on the table for their guys.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
He never did.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Actually, we had seen that in all of the other
past Hard Knocks, but not with this one, and the
Jets were pretty clear about that from the jump. So
I kind of had a feeling when I saw Jason
Brownlee go into the office with Joe Douglass for his
maiden voyage on the show, his first appearance, and Robert
Sala that this would be a fake out. But then
(12:52):
it also had me wondering because Jason Brownlee and Xavier
Gibson are such close friends.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Jason obviously called.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Old Xavier to tell him that he made the team,
and I'm sure he told him exactly what happened, like
how they faked him out. So I wonder if Xavier
kind of knew that that was happening or could be
good question a possibility, because otherwise it was like, really,
that's what you're going to do.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Oh my god, these guys think that they're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Cut Here's what Aaron Rodgers said.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I'm really proud of those guys, and he mentioned how
they didn't get big signing bonuses, they were disappointed on
draft day, but to end up with a spot on
the fifty three, and now we're a week further from
the cutdown day and week one is coming up on
Monday night. These guys look like they're safe and they're
going to be on the fifty three, which is a big,
(13:40):
a really big moment obviously, and something you don't see often.
I did think it was really interesting. We never on
the on the season, we never even heard about Corey Davis. No,
and the reason on your radar, the reason why Xavier
Gibson and Jason Browny both make the team. It used
to be two kids for one spot, and Corey Davis
retires ruptly, has a big contract, veteran guy, he's had,
(14:02):
you know, really success, a lot of success and with
the Titans, not as much with the Jets, but he
was supposed to be part of it.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
He retires suddenly.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
We never hear about that on the show, or it's
never really made clear why it became two spots, but
it is and to the benefit of these guys, they
get a chance and now we'll see again. It's almost
weird after this very unprecedented season for Jets fans, We're
gonna see what these kids can do.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Are they gonna get run? Is Aaron Rodgers gonna throw
them the ball?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
See?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
And then also the other rookie that I'm super interested
in now is the running back.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Is he Abana Konda? First of all, I just like
his name is so much fun to see see right
off the tongue, and he was hurt.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
He was able to come back so quick that thigh injury.
Where he was on the field, he couldn't even feel
anyone like touching his leg, you.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Know how bad.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Like imagine everyone's gotten like either need or punched in
the arm by their buddy or some jerk like a
bu and then it's like, oh, it's sort It's almost like, yeah,
imagine being need so hard in the thigh that the
trainer comes out and you can't feel.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's a brutal game.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I can't, I can't.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I mean he was supposed to be out for a month,
came back in a week, and then we had a
chance to meet his family a little bit more nice.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
They're Nigerian.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
They talked about how they love parties, they love to celebrate,
which I just feel like I would get along so
well with this whole entire hungry.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That food looked so bomb.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I don't know what. I don't know what it was.
Maybe it was some type of rice would make.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Me not of this food look bomb? Get it to
Connie in time.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Yeah, I don't know if it was a Nigerian dish
that they were cooking, but if it was, it could
have been jallof rice.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
That is something i've Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
There's also something called puff puff, which is fried sweet
of fried sweet dough ball, which just looks like maybe isn't.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
That like a zeppee or whatever? Oh?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Probably was that a New Jersey turn and that sounds cool.
It's Italian Italian Jersey news.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Zeppel is like a do you know, Eric Roberts, you're from?
Where are you from?
Speaker 10 (16:10):
Original Los Angeles?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Ever heard of it?
Speaker 10 (16:13):
No, no idea.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
It's like you get in the bag. It's great.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
That could be a Northeast we'll find out.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
We've we've come back into this cul de sac once more.
We are Yeah, Tanzel Smart, the defensive tackle who everyone
really that watched the show.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
He was impossible not to root for. He does not
make the team.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
We notably do not see this because in you know,
old Hard Knocks days, there's a GoPro in the coaches
of the GM's office Brownley Gibson, Like, there's a cameraman
just like sitting in there hanging with him. Yeah, imagine
what those guys are thinking. It is like, am I
about to get cut with his cameraman three feet away
from me? But they weren't smart. There were no cameras
(16:55):
for that. We did get though a conversation the fact,
and it was it was sad. It was sad kind
of because he's holding his young daughter and we knew,
just from how NFL Filds did such a great job
tracking his story how much this would have meant to
him and changed his life if he made the team.
He doesn't. He ends up on the practice squad, but
(17:15):
that was not his goal. Here is Smart.
Speaker 11 (17:18):
You just want to get what you deserve, you know,
And I feel like I deserve. I deserve to be
on the fifty three. So if you know, if God
wanted me to be here, I'll be here. But if not,
I need to go be on the fifty three. I
just put a lot of good out there, and that's
why I read it on even like you see my face,
(17:38):
I'm not I'm upset, but I'm not like, oh, devastated,
because at the end of the day, I put everything
I could into this and it.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Is that's the human side of what makes the show
so great. And you know that's hard to watch because
how real and human it is. He say look at
my face, and his face tells the real story, right,
He's crushed.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
He's completely you can hear the frustration, but you can
also see the defeat. And I think that's like what
he's getting at when he says, look at my face, Like,
I'm not crushed, but it's like, yeah, of course he is.
And he's felt this many times over again, and he
wants this so bad. And he's holding his daughter, who's
so sweet and so cute, and he's looking at her
and it's just like, I want this for him because
(18:20):
he wants it so bad, so that kind of pulls
at the heart strings.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, that I always think about. It's one of my
favorite moments in the history of Hard Knocks. It was
in the Bengal season. I believe the second Bengal season
defense another defensive tackle, Terrence Stevens, who is a great
singer and he's trying to make it on the roster.
I remember when they would show practices and games. He
(18:44):
just wasn't necessarily hanging right with the big boys about
to cry. But he's a great singer and he sings
this John Mayer song called Gravity, and the lyrics were
so poigting for the moment, and it's likevity is working
against me, gravity keeping me down and keep me where
(19:06):
the light is, which was just like there were so
many kind of parallels to NFL life. And I thought
about that again with Tanzel Smart.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
But he ended up on the practice squad.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
And here's the good news.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And I did the same thing last year because I
remember I got deja vu. Here is the good news
for us people that understand the practice squad is not
where you want to be as an NFL player. But
according to my quick Internet research, the minimum for players
who have accrued more than two years in the NFL
(19:38):
or two seasons, and Tanzel is twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He bounced around a little bit starting the rams.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
You make fifteen four hundred per week, or two hundred
and seventy seven two hundred dollars for eighteen weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
That the player is a crew two of more seasons.
So that's not bad. Okay, So that's good for his family,
that's good for him.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And if things an opportunity arises, maybe we see him
at Jetlife Stadium, you know what.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
That feels like a win.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
And I'm hoping for bigger things in the future for
him and Quincy Williams.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I don't want to either. Carcuccie Board, Quincy Williams.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Carcuccie Boards, Will McDonald and Quincy Williams walking off the
field after the news broke about Tanzel.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It's business, it's not personal. It's tough. It's tough. All right,
Let's take a break. We're gonna have a very special guest.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Oh my god, I'm so excited about this.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I mean, this has been building for five apps and
now it is time big reveal.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
After this break, the old man, welcome back.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
What a day.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
How's your dad doing?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Oh he's great, A wolf awesome ed.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Wolf saw you?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Oh he sure did sign that together in the conversation
a little bit later, but from one father to another,
he around the NFL. Fans know him well. The man
that made me a Jets fan for better or that
made you and made me. You got that right too.
Cue the music, Eric Roberts.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
His name is Keith. He's stands dad, no doubt about it.
He's a big Jets fan. Wood is he going to
say the game today? Will he go game today? Hey?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Joining us now from spring Lake, New Jersey, a mere
stone's throw from the florm Park headquarters of New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
It's Keith Hanss my dad.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Hey, pop, mister hans is Hello.
Speaker 12 (22:00):
Oh I Dan and Colleen. How you guys doing.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
We're doing well? Better now?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yes, we've been wanting to have you on the Hard
Knocks podcast. We wanted to pick the right spot, and
I feel like the finale, Dad, is the perfect time
to bring you in as a Jet fan. Going back
to the name of days and first of all, what
were your thoughts, Let's talk about the finale. Anything from
the finale that really kind of stuck out to you tonight?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (22:27):
Yeah, what a finale?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You know.
Speaker 12 (22:29):
The thing that I really took from that finale was
two big things. First of all, when they were walking
down that hallway, initially right when they and they think
that was the length of a football field, right right,
And then when they at the very end they showed
how then they were sequencing putting pictures in up to
with the hard knocks, and then they were going to
(22:50):
put more pictures throughout that hallway as the season progressed.
I thought that was pretty cool because that was such
a long hallway. Yeah, it's the big thing I got.
The biggest thing I got was Salah. I thought when
his reference to Mount Everest m you know, the analogy
of you know, climbing to the top of Mount evereston.
(23:12):
You know, the Jets, you know that they really need
This is really the first time in so long that
they have, you know, good hope in the preseason going
into the season.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
With Rogers, and he pointed out Connie and the rest
of the team, they've only gotten to the base camp
right now, there's so much farther to go. And Dad,
you mentioned that hallway. We talked about the base camp. Huh, right,
We talked about at the beginning of the show, how
that hallway and how they're going to put up photos
celebrating each week, big moments from each week. It's kind
(23:43):
of like that could backfire if the season doesn't go well,
But at the same time, they don't think about that
because there's so much confidence around this team. Can you
ever remember as a Jets van at an off season
And they've had a lot of down years, obviously, but
there have been years where name it through some of
the Ken O'Brien years, Vinny Testaverdi Pennington, even Mark Sanchez,
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there happened moments of excitement for this this fan base.
But do you ever remember it ever being like this?
Speaker 12 (24:14):
Well, when it comes to the name of years, you know,
right after the Super Bowl they made the playoffs and
then they lost the tough game to Kansas City. And
then the following season nineteen seventy one, you know, all
the Jets had really high hopes because they had a
strong defense and a great offense. And what happens in
preseason name of trying to make it tackle in those gays.
(24:35):
Six games were played in preseason, all right, I believe
tries to make it, Yes, he makes it, tries to
make it tackle of Mike Lucci, the linebacker of the
Detroit Lions, and he tears up his knee and he
missed almost the whole season. So that to me, that
was like everybody was looking for that season to be
such a to come back season for them. And then
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of course you know that name. It had a couple
of more good years, but that was you know, the
team was never the same.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Well, listen, I've been watching Danny as you call him,
and I feel like when you're on and when I'm
around you, I have to call him Danny. Danny kind
of worked through different emotions while watching Hard Knocks, going
from just the excitement of the fact that it was
about the Jets and then working slowly towards a little
bit more of a stressed out situation because so much
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is now around the Jets. There's so many spotlights on them.
So for you, I just want to know your experience.
Has this show given you more confidence or more anxiety
about the season coming up?
Speaker 12 (25:41):
No question about it. More confidence, totally more confidence. And
let me just say one other thing about you know
about you said how the Jets fortunes? How was I
looking at the when it comes to Danny, all right,
that's when the Sanchez years came in. That was big
post name it that we thought was going to something
have something happened, But yeah, this, watching this show, I
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was definitely.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
On a high. Yeah, I bet. What about your opinion?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yes, I remember being in the garage with you dad
at my old house in Culver City, and it was
a Thursday night and I had a TV set up
and we had the heat lamp set up and it
was me, you, our dear departed friend Chris Westling, Greg
and Mark and we were watching the game.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Colleen was at lambeau Field while this was going on.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
We were talking about the Packers and famously called the coach.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Lafleura a bearded boy, which was great.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
But also in that conversation that was always brought back
up that you said that you didn't like Rogers.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
He's arrogant.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
That was the word, Danny, I don't like that Rogers,
He's arrogant. Has your opinion changed it all on Rogers
over the past four or five months, or even the
last five weeks with this show, you.
Speaker 12 (26:54):
Know, you're absolutely right. I did have that feeling because
he does have that sort of rough edge to him,
But not seeing the different side of Rogers which we
saw in Hard Knocks was big. You see how he
was not only to his teammates but the coaches and
then players that even in pre season. You see the
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way they all go over to him and embrace him
and say hello. He says hello to all these guys.
You know, it's like he's not that same guy that
had that attitude in Green Bay. I don't know if
that's what I'm seeing differently, but he's certainly he's a
totally different guy.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I think it's a lot guy. I just didn't know him.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
It's like watching Dan at work. Everyone kind of comes
up to Dan. They gravitate towards him. They're giving him
high fives when he walks in the building.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Everybody loves Dam and I'm like Rogers when he was
the tail end of the packers.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I just tell everybody to get away from me.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
You know what, the mister Hansas, I have a question
for you, because for years and years and years, Dan
has been telling us about his hometown. Where you live now,
Spring Lake, would you describe it as a cold town
as Dan has?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Well, Pearl River is where I.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Grew up, Pearl River. I'm so sorry. Is that a cult?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well?
Speaker 12 (28:07):
That was Danny's description of Pearl River. You know, I
never saw any coal mines in Pearl River or anything,
but I guess Danny was referencing it to some other
things that he was equating it too. I'm not quite sure.
And Colleen, you can call me Keith.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Please, Okay, great? Great.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
The best part is my dad never really had any
issue with it, but my mom deb she'd be like,
I don't like that you call it a cult, Dad,
before we say goodbye. You know Joe Namath, your two
heroes growing up, Nameth Mickey Mantle. Okay, name it. Towering
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figure in Jet's history. I think Aaron Rodgers if he ever,
if this ever ended, best case scenario, and and he
took this team from where they were last year to
a Super Bowl title, I think he would have clout
as a New York athlete that maybe you don't touch
name it because it was a different era too, but
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he would be a legend in New York. You agree, right,
like Rogers has a chance to enter rarefied air as
someone's been watching the New York sports scene for a
long time. That would put him in a special category
that only a few enter.
Speaker 12 (29:21):
Absolutely, you know, if he can take this team, which
you know they have one of the toughest schedules, which
I know you guys have talked about and if he
could take him to like eleven or twelve wins of them,
hopefully for at least eleven, you know, this would put
him in a total I would definitely be There's no
other Jet quarterback I'll put it this way, other than
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the name of it that could do what he can do.
Rogers what I feel. So yes, I would put him
right up there Jet next to Joe. But who else
on the Jet the quarterbacks over the years, could even
you know, could you even put there? You know, Testa
Verdi had some good years, but you know, pretty much
they've had some guys that really nothing really and.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I hope that right, no, nobody really Well.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I was just gonna say, I wish that we could
have Keith on a show every week.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
He's so much.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Fun, such a blast hanging out with your dad before
the super Bowl this past season. He told us so
many stories, It's fun about you growing up and it
was just like a delight. So anytime you want to
come on any of these shows, I mean even shows
that I'm not on, you should come on.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Very much.
Speaker 12 (30:28):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Let's end it this way, Dad, because you introduced Jets
fandom to me, and I learned a lot about name
It from you and watching old clips over and over
and over.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I was hoping we'd see Joe. I thought.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I was hoping we'd see him at the Hall of
Fame enshrinement where two jets went in and they played
in the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We didn't.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I was almost certain we'd see him on Hard Knocks,
but we didn't. Hope everything's good with Joe. But since
we didn't see Joe in these episodes other than a
little quick clip at the top of the show, at
the top of the season, I want to play my
favorite name is clip for you dad, as before we
say goodbye, Hit it Eric.
Speaker 13 (31:08):
Okay, sometimes they talk about drinking and conniving around with
ladies and stuff, and it seems almost Unamerican to me
for a bachelor, not to mar you know, go around
having a drink with a lady now man, and why
all of a sudden, that's becoming evil in me, just
trying to get bye. Look at that shot and.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
He buries the shot, that iconic, he buries the shot.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
He buries the shot. And if that isn't that isn't
the nineteen seventies, nothing is and that was just typical
of the way things were in those days that it
was really good. And I did get to meet Joe
one time when they used to train in Long Island
at Hofstra University and was a good friend of mine,
was on the Hostra football team. And I'll just say
this one thing quickly. He said, Keith, you want to
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meet Joe. I said, are you kidding me? Are you
asking me that question? And I said, of course us
And he says, well, listen, he has to be in
by eleven o'clock in the dorm. And they were in
the Hosture dorm. Just would have acologized. And sure enough,
in a big Cadillac, Joe comes pulling into the parking lot,
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gets out and starts walking up and we're right at
the doors, and I said, hey, Joe, how you doing?
Hey my favorite player?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And here I'm there.
Speaker 12 (32:24):
I'm about eighteeth at this time, right and I'm suck
get out of here, you know, very friendly, very nice.
So that's that's my name of the story.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Wow did he make did he make? Curfew?
Speaker 12 (32:33):
He made it because it was right at eleven so
and sure enough, like he said, every time, it's the
same exact thing. The car came peeling into the parking
lot literally you heard it, and then out of the
car into the and he got in of course at
eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Wow.
Speaker 12 (32:51):
Oh yeah, that's a true story.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well from one legend to another. Keith Hansas, thank you
for joining us, Papa.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
We love you, Keith, thank you like that. There you go,
my dad. I love that Hofstra story.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
To like eighteen year old kids in the seventies waiting
for the great Joe Namath to roll in.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So good he said, eleven or twelve wins.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah, he's feeling good.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But like I will, I will say that.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
If they win eleven games and it, you know, go
quietly in the playoffs, it won't feel like good enough
to me. Like I think they the bar is high
enough now where not only have to get back to
the lafts. They gotta make a little bit of noise, okay,
and then you dream big for something beyond that.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
So just making the playoffs would be a disappointment, a little.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Bit, a little let's get to do you disagree?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
No, I agree with all the fanfare and everything, but
I think too that is why some teams sometimes don't
want hard knocks because they think that it's going to
we'll get to that too much.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Let's sit up here, let's get to our final MVP.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
This is.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Votes and this is a major episode for Eric Roberts
vector voting system.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Well, I mean, first of all, he came into this
episode extremely strong. He was able to navigate all sorts
of technological issues going into our screening room. He figured
out how to work the theater, which neither one of
us know how to do.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
He just kind of sat there and heckled him while
he did it.
Speaker 10 (34:25):
That was my favorite part of the really great job
you guys cheering me on.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I thought you were.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I thought you were just setting him up to mention
that he forgot to turn on our mics at the
beginning of the taping of this episode.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
You can't win them all.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Magic of podcasts. Eric's done wonderful work all season. His
job is to be the mathematician of the group tabulating
the vector voting system. Let's do our votes for m
v P and then once we hand out these three
prize places, Eric will share with us the Hard Knocks MVP.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Third place for me this week, that's it.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Robert Sala, the motivator, I would play for that guy
any day. I like Keith Hansis, loved the Mount Everest analogy.
At first I thought it was maybe going to be cheesy,
but the way that he explained it and landed that plane.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Perfect jets exactly.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
And then you know that that the finish the wall,
I mean, that has to be his idea. So and
I think that that is like an onion type idea.
So third is solid.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It's kind of putting yourself out there.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
And we talked about it around the NFL that very
rarely does a coach get three years. If you don't
make the playoffs any of those first three years, you're gone.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
They have not made the playoffs yet in his first
two seasons.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Sala has a lot of pressure on him, but you
could tell he believes that this is the right team.
I had him as my second place vote. Okay, so
Salad does very well in our voting enough to win it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
We shall see my third place votes.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
A vote go to You know, I I love this
defensive line, love all season long.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
And by the way, if I.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Could really, can we just quick aside here if I
really had to hand out one MVP for MVP for
season five, it's Colleen.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Wolf oh Whoa.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Absolutely nailed her prediction.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Slash wish that they end Hard Knocks thanks a finale
with a trip to Broadway. Yeah, and what do we
see in the first fifteen damn minutes? Aaron Rodgers, Zach Wilson,
a host of other players at the MJ Show on Broadway.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
You nailed it, my dream. This is all I wanted.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
It's show business, maybe your box office.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Like, on one hand, I would love to be like, yes,
this prediction was so awesome and I knew it was
going to happen. I saw it before it even happened.
But also it's like I would like to believe that
maybe I planted the seed and they were like, you
know what, that is a great idea call.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
We will all go to Broadway, so, uh, here we are.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You don't know for sure that's not what happened.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
I know, but either way, this is the power of
putting things out in the universe and seeing them happen.
So there this was like, this was so awesome, Like
I love this defensive line too, and I'll let you
keep going.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah, I was gonna say Tanzel Smart was one of
the people there. Mister Carcucci board himself Michael Clemens. I
don't know what's Clemens there. I'm not positive, but I.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
More we saw him in a different part of the show.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
A general like shout out to the D Line last week,
I gave it to Smart kind of representing the D Line.
I'm giving it to Michael Clemens for a birthday wish
to Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
That kind of sounded like a death threat. Let's listen
to it.
Speaker 12 (37:45):
Ah, Damn it is sausage birthday, though, I think so.
Speaker 11 (37:50):
Yeah, Damn.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
Smart, Happy birthday, Happy birthday, Bro, we go happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
If you have a great I appreciate it.
Speaker 12 (38:09):
Bro. Not making eye contact, No, won't look at him
in the eye.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
And there's more to that story.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
By the way Clemens has him by the chest, like
by his jersey, It's really funny.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
This is Sauce Gardner, who is arguably the greatest young
defensive star in the sport entering his second season, being
grabbed by the jersey collar and refusing to make It's
like my dog when I come home and he chewed
something up. He just he won't even look at me.
I don't know what the backstory is between Clemens, and
it seems very pretty clearly like a bit, but I
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just like the idea that, like, there's a whole other
thing that's been going on through training camp that we
were not pretty to.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
So all we have is that with no context. And
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
But I also did not see Sauce laughing at the
at the bit quote unquote.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
So I don't know what the story is.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Sometimes a bit is only a bit to one side, right.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
This actually works perfect because my second place vote and
I guess if we're gonna do D line, so you
had it for the full D line or clemens on
behalf Okay, So I'm gonna go with Solomon Thomas here.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Run.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
He was sort of I would like to think that
he was the leader in getting this Broadway show and
the field to happen in general. And they went, they
saw Michael Jackson. I think Solomon Thomas said that this
was his fourth time seeing the show, so avid show
watcher and Broadway guy. But it was just so fun
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to see all of the players out in the wild
and at a musical too, so they're dancing, they're singing.
I just wanted to know, though, the people in the
audience that were sitting behind the players they had to
deal with all of the hard knocks cameras very annoyed
about that. That would have been absolutely on my radar.
So I don't know how they felt about it, but
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it was.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Probably not a cheap ticket. No, you know, to the MJ.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Broadway Show, Nathaniel Hackett had on a sport coat that
was cute.
Speaker 10 (40:07):
Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Yeah, they caught Solomon Thomas had a moonwalk. That was
That was the part that I like though, and he
was not good at it, but it was funny.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I should before we move on to our second and
first place votes, I have a prize for you.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I have a I have a yeah, a prize or
a surprise.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
It's a it's a surprise, and it's also an award
for being so prescient with your prediction. Yes, earlier this season,
the premiere, in fact, we had a certain player that
wears number eight on the Jets wearing a certain hat
that you thought was cool. So behind the scenes here
(40:50):
at NFL Media, the yes, the hat that says cherish
the little Things a gift from NFL Media.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I love this.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
I'm gonna wear this all the time. First of all,
it's black and white. So it's gonna go with so
many things, including this outfit. Yes, I love baseball hats.
I love trucker hats. This is going in the rotation.
I love this.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
All right? What'd you get me?
Speaker 4 (41:16):
My presence is the gift?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
All right? So you deserve that for that prediction.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
L I owe you. Here's this visitor's badge because I
passed today.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Thank you. That's perfect. We even, all right?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
I said I had Sola second, Kay, you had second place?
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Solomon Thomas, Solomon.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Thomas first place.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Who do you got Aarons same seas? We both have Rogers?
Speaker 5 (41:48):
Just I mean he was a staple throughout this entire series, clearly,
but the UFO story Loane really drove home my first
place MVP vote for him.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I have to say, Colleen, I got something else here?
Speaker 4 (42:02):
What else is over there? That's like Christmas?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
My banana just felt.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
You know how many you know, how many like you
know how many things have happened this year where I've
thought to myself or this during this show.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I feel like this was made for me.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Like it's a show about the Jets, and you know,
all these different things this Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
And the UFO tidbit from Aaron.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Rodgers felt like I was watching Unsolved Mysteries, which is
like my favorite show forever, Robert Sock forever. I wanted
to bring in this Leslie Nielsen autographed photo that I believe.
I want to say this my sister or my brother
maybe or maybe my cousin who was a family members.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
It's signed.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
My son was born in twenty fourteen, Jack Luck and laughs.
Leslie Nielsen from Naked Gun, who was prominently discussed by
Nate Hackett and Company as a legend of the forum.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Now here's you want to talk about unsolved?
Speaker 4 (43:00):
That's so cool.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Leslie Nielsen died in twenty ten. H my son was
born four years later. So I don't know who signed
this or if Leslie.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
I don't know. I just want to say that, Leslie Nielson.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
You got this gift before Jack was born.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
I got it for his his birth. Yes, Leslie Nielsen
signed eight by ten, four years after Leslie passed. Wow,
so somebody my son's name did not create like exist
in the ether when Leslie left us.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
So what an unsolved mystery.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
That's an unsolved mystery. Now another unsolved mystery. Aaron Rodgers
with his old cow teammate in the New Jersey Woods,
seeing something that changed them.
Speaker 8 (43:50):
We had this great dinner at his house in Jersey.
I was making my way to bed. I had like
a five am wake up, and I was I was
getting down to bed. I heard this alarm and distance
going off. It just didn't seem like normal. When I
heard some rustling downstairs, so I got up, walked downstairs.
A beautiful night, and Steve and his brother and I
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walked outside and up in the clouds, you know, we
heard this sound and we saw this tremendously large object
moving through the sky and it was like a scene
out of Independence Day when the ships are coming into
the atmosphere and they're creating this like kind of explosion
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type fire in the sky.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
I am on the edge of my seat.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
My heart is pounding, Aaron, I need more more more.
Speaker 8 (44:49):
I stood frozen to three of us on the front
stoop of Steve's house, and about thirty seconds later, we
heard the real recognizable sound of fight jets going that
seemed to be chasing this object. And again we just
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stood there and just disbelieve. For another few minutes. Nobody
said a word, and then we all kind of looked
each other like, did we just see what we think?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
We just saw?
Speaker 8 (45:21):
What was that?
Speaker 4 (45:22):
You saw it? You definitely saw it. That's what it was.
That was a UFO.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Now, Rogers obviously has taken his fair share of slings
and arrows for being a little bit out there. And
I can understand why a certain like a doubter or
a skeptic might say, Oh, that's the guy who's going
to lead you to it for super Bowl in fifty
five years.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, you're damn right, that's the guy.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
You know why, because he's seen the light.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Because he's right, He's right.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
That story was insane, you.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Know what a good music yougo is such a long
way by the way, that was very stacky and unsought mysteries.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Good jab bravo as usual.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
They really really set it up well. But I believe him.
My dad is seen a UFO. And Aaron Rodgers even
said in that whole retelling of the story that they
were right by a nuclear power plant, like a few
miles away from one, and that is a noted.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Area UFO classic.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
Behavior exactly, And that's where my dad saw his because
he was in it was in the middle of the night,
Ed Wolf manning the air traffic control tower a straight
sho he is. He does not like, he doesn't exaggerate
about things. He's not a storyteller that like, you know,
just adds in fake dee for the stake.
Speaker 10 (46:45):
Ever story, Yeah, never.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
And he's even like sometimes a little bashful about telling
the story. And he's at an air traffic control tower
in the tower in the middle of the night, and
it's at a missile silo because that's where he was
stationed during not and he sees he sees this bright
light that's not on the radar, and he's sitting with
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someone else and he sees the light zigzag across the
sky and then disappear. And he turns to the guy
next to him and he said, did you just see that?
And the guy goes, unless you want to go to Vietnam,
we didn't see anything.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
To Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
By the way, you can only say noam if you
actually battled.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Him during NOM he was manning the nuclear missile silo.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I listen, man, and it's coming out more and more.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
And Dorry and Dorr. Yeah, Ed, I believe you.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
I believe your story, and I believe my quarterback saw
something he wasn't maybe supposed to say, are we allowed
to be talking about it?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Who's watching us? All question?
Speaker 4 (48:04):
They are? Of course they are. I know many people
who have seen one.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
All right, I think not to take the air out
of the balloon on this one. But I think it's
pretty clear who the MVP of the season is. But
why don't we go five to one Eric Roberts and
according to the vector voting system? Because I'm just gonna say, Connie, yes, now,
I don't want to step on it. I have in
my mind, my mind, who is the runner up? I
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guess that I have. But let's hear okay, I actually.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Think I know. I'm going to write it down what one, two,
three is?
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Okay, Okay, I'll do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
All right, there we go.
Speaker 10 (48:41):
So how about you go one to four because after
four it's event started four thought for you.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Let me just make sure I have this written down
for posterity. Okay, I am good, I have my I'm
like the mentalist right now, I'm writing it down.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
I love that you.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
Call me and Doreen, but like you're writing stuff out
and you have Leslie Nielsen a framed photo.
Speaker 10 (49:05):
I'm with you. On the writing man, I love I
love writing.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
There you go, okay.
Speaker 10 (49:09):
Fourth place guys Quinnin Williams with twelve points.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Q you okay. I would have guessed that too. I
didn't go to four, but that makes sense. He had
a great year defensive lineman. It's Sauce Gardner who has
arguably the highest upside of all these defenders and the
guy that is the kind of face of the defense.
But Q is a star who just got paid and
really showed himself well in this series.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
Is just like a nice guy personality.
Speaker 10 (49:36):
Had a pretty funny line in the last episode, you
don't love me, you love that I get you sacks right.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
What I do for you to mister Hackett. Yes, third place,
my name is Nathaniel Hackett. Thanks, thanks to see you
out here.
Speaker 10 (49:47):
Yep so and then either here was He's always good
for a good one liner.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
So he you know, that is the power of Nate
Hackett offensive coordinator and what a great job this show did,
kind of rehabilitating some of his image after the.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
Broncos Rogers Big Butterfly exactly.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Me too, hack Okay, So Hackett gets third.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
He consistently he was a little quiet in the finale,
but overall, week after week was living one liners.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 10 (50:16):
Second place, second place, guys, Roberts.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
That's right, Salah. I think he also quitted himself very well, Connie.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
This season he absolutely did Leader of Men and he
should be doing way more voice work.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Well, Jason doesn't need again more competition, which means, of
course first place. And the last year the winner of
the Hard Knocks MVP was somebody probably Dan Dan Campbell
Dan camp This year, twenty twenty three Hard Knocks MVP
Aaron Rodgers. Yes, hees Aaron Rodgers not.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
Gonna be so excited about it.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Look at this graphic.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
I mean, Eric the dead MIC's at the top of
the show, completely forgotten. Now, yeah, look at that Hard
Knocks MVP number. Even a big old smile.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
He's just so happy to receive this honor out of
all of his honors.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
And look he gets another MVP, which is great.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
And that's that's yeah. It takes us too, Yes, he's
got five.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Now takes us to final thoughts of the season, Colleen, Uh,
what what did he get by?
Speaker 2 (51:20):
How many points did he finish with do you have that?
Speaker 10 (51:22):
Finished with forty two and and Sala had Sala had
a distant fourteen?
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Whoa, I didn't even I thought we were kind of
like we're a little.
Speaker 10 (51:31):
The problem was the bread out the like the points
behind first pretty like so it's never saw like a
second second second. It was always like Aaron and then
like a mixed smash.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Of like see that's the vector voting.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Vector voting system.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
But that I mean, if we would have come to
any other conclusion other than Aaron Rodgers is the MVP
of the show, we would have been it would have
been the vector voting system would have been torn asunder.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, he was the MVP. He deserved to be the MVP.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
Hopefully he's the real MVP in real football, starting next
Monday night against Robins's Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
Hold on a second, though, are we paying off? What
did you have written down here for your productions?
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Close? I had Rogers, Hackett, Sala, what did Hackett at twelve?
Speaker 10 (52:15):
It was fourteen for Sala, Hackett for twelve, Quinnen and
Hackett both at twelve points.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
And Connie she did it again, you get that hat again.
I was gonna take the hat away, but now you
get it. It's mine cherish the little things. Starting with
Aaron Rodgers wearing that in episode one, I thought this
was a great platform for him, and it feeds into
my final thought, Connie, teams need to relax. Teams need
to stop taking themselves so seriously. And I include the
(52:42):
Jets on this. I mean, you are not in charge
of the Manhattan project here. You You are a football team,
and Hard Knocks is a program that should not be
seen as a distraction or in any way an impediment
to your goals. And the said goal hoisting Lombardi trop
in February or Connie, to look at it another way,
(53:05):
if having NFL cameras on your property for like a
month is enough to sidetrack your summer and somehow booby
trapped the season to come, you were doomed anyway.
Speaker 5 (53:17):
Got bigger problems to worry about than the Hard Knock count.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
So to all the teams, and I hated it as
a Hard Knocks lover that the enduring storyline leading up
to the season was like, who's gonna do it? They
can't find anybody. Please, Teams look at this as the
golden opportunity that is so clearly is to show off
your players and coaching staff and ownership and fans and
(53:43):
your state of the art facility and your team history.
In short, let NFL Films cook. You'll be better off
in the end.
Speaker 5 (53:50):
Yes, isn't this whole thing what we do? We talk
about a game. A game is entertainment, this show is entertainment.
We're in show business.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Or is her just once said you play to win
the game, you play to be on Hard Knocks.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
I nailed that, and you know we did get a
little bit of less access from the Jets also, And
I don't want that to be the start of a
new trend. Now, let these team, let the NFL Film's
crew do their job, and kind of everybody will win.
Does he think anybody watched these five episodes of Hard
Knocks or any of the past season, maybe the Brown season,
you would come out of it thinking a little different
about the team. Hugh Jackson and Greg Williams going at
(54:30):
it behind the sea. Yeah, but it makes it paints
you in a positive light if you are a team
that it has its together right.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
And I think the Jets do right now.
Speaker 5 (54:39):
And that's what's so exciting, and I think that it
shows confidence in an organization. If you say yes to
Hart Knocks, it shows that you don't have anything to
hide and you're not worried about distractions because you have
what it takes to go and win when it actually matters,
and that this is really just base camp right here
before we get to Mount Everest. And you know what else,
I would like to see more off site gatherings like Broadway.
(55:02):
So to the future producers of Hard Knocks, please take
us off site and I want more.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Field Do you want more for see? I don't need
that as much.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
I thought they'd got a good job of kind of
raining that in a little bit this season. What I
would like to see in the future is more behind
the scenes. I want to see more table pounding and
things like that. I thought they kind of got it
just right with We went to Broadway, we did some charcouterie,
we got some tattoos with Will McDonald.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
It was nice. They did a nice job. It was
a very enjoyable and it was.
Speaker 5 (55:33):
There and they absolutely crushed the sopranos open like they
did New York.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Well that's the other.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Thing, Like I said, Leslie Nielsen name dropped. Okay, my
favorite comedic actor ever. Love them so much that from
Beyond the Grave he autographed the glossy for my newborn son.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Sopranos probably my favorite show ever. Yeah, Jets my favorite
team ever.
Speaker 4 (55:56):
You've always loved Hard Knocks too.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
And Colleen my favorite.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
Hey doing a show with you being lucky enough to
do that, I uh, really it's pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (56:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
I'm sad that it's over.
Speaker 5 (56:08):
I am too, But I do think that we have
one more piece of business do we to get to
do we? Because when I think about New York and
the Northeast, I think about the food. People always ask me,
you know, do I miss Philadelphia and Philly right down
the street from New York. I say, of course, I
(56:29):
miss my family, but I miss the sandwiches. I missed
miss cars. Any type of bread please? So WHOA what
do we have here?
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Get a camera on this?
Speaker 4 (56:43):
Okay, so we have some food being delivered?
Speaker 2 (56:46):
That is what do we got here?
Speaker 4 (56:48):
Colleen, I honestly don't know what we have is. It's
a tailor pork roll situation.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
It's a tailor pork roll.
Speaker 4 (56:55):
And disco fries.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
Disco fries.
Speaker 5 (56:57):
Disco fries was not like part of my Philadelphia life.
So thank you so much, Parker.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
What is on a disco fry? Let's that looks like this?
Well look at this, Colleen, let's get a picture of this.
This is basically New Jersey staples. Uh, park can you
get in the shot there?
Speaker 2 (57:16):
Staples?
Speaker 4 (57:17):
Get out?
Speaker 3 (57:18):
I said in but running staples of New Jersey diners.
There's nothing more in New Jersey than diners.
Speaker 4 (57:27):
And what do we have here?
Speaker 5 (57:30):
So it's like in a breakfast sandwich of sorts with
is this tailor pork roll?
Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah, this is it?
Speaker 4 (57:34):
And so uh Taylor pork roll like and jeez.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
That's everything you would ever want in a sandwich. And
Taylor is a brand of pork but everyone just calls.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
It a tailor, right, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (57:45):
My dad calls it tailor pork roll, like the full name,
which I think is not popular.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
Where did this come from? By the way, it just
got wheeled in at it into this studio.
Speaker 10 (57:56):
Is courtesy of the huddle are nice people? Have theres
that the fun fed and hook us up with all
the great food from upstairs.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
That is love.
Speaker 10 (58:04):
Mauriel put it together. Climb In Schneider had their hands
in involved in this. You know, I feel like we
sh a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (58:10):
Try a bite here, right.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
We were eating with the mic is always weird.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
But I don't know. Do we say by and then
by yeah?
Speaker 2 (58:15):
Why don't we do that again? Yes?
Speaker 3 (58:17):
Thank you to Matt Schnider, everybody behind the scenes here.
Thank you to Ken Rogers. Yeah, the NFL Films who
gave us this great.
Speaker 4 (58:25):
Wearing show hard knock shirt.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Proudly that we are so obviously.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
I hope we express it a door and we hope
to be back here again next year. Until then, he
the call, all right, let's get in on its
One of the biggest pet peeves I have as a
coach is when you're on a team that's not doing
very well and the opposing coach whose team is doing
well walks up to you at the fifty yard line says, man,
you guys, play hard.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You I don't want to play hard. I don't to
you up.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
That's the mindset. No one's talking about how we play
hard anymore. They're Peyton and that's exactly what you can want.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh that's my coat.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
From the Chris Wesley podcast Studio. It is the season
finale of the Hard Knocks podcast and Hard Knocks and
the show the show as well, what's more important decide
if I had I'm Dan Hansis, by the.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Way, and I'm Colleen Woolf.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Hello, that's Colleen wolf and you you grade very high
on the given factor.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
That was one of my favorite lines from the entire show.
Also wrote it down.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It does.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
That one that connected with me because sometimes when you
work with people or whatever in life, you want to
make sure that that factor is at a high or
an acceptable level.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We all got to be in it to win it.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I also, just going off of what Robert Sala just
had to say there when coaches go up to him
and say, man, you guys play hard? Okay, was it Belichick?
How many times has Belichick said that to him? Mc
dermott like, who was it that really got under his skin?
That's what I want to know.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Let's be honest that Jets have had two losing seasons
under Solace so far, so plenty of coaches have had
that opportunity to this point, but this is supposed to
be different. Collien and if I could offer a one
line synopsis of this fifth and final episode of Hard
Knocks to kind of an overview of the Jets in
(01:52):
general what we've seen this summer, that might be all
as well in Jetland. Or if we want to add
some dramatic sala Ian Salayan.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Sal Yeah, sala Ian salah.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Ian heft, we could call it where foolish crows come
to suffocate then free fall to their pitiful depths.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Yeah, I mean, out of context, it was weird, but
when we saw the full.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Thing, point is this team believes.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's a reflection obviously of the coaching staff led by
Robert sala and these five weeks served as a snapshot
of a team Connie an organization that is absolutely certain
of its place in the NFL right now.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
That confidence has never been higher.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Which you know, let's get into that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Here's DJ Reid, the cornerback, underrated cornerback of the Jets.
On Monday, had a zoom call with reporters and he
said this, I think we have the potential to be
the best defense in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Just stop there, stop there, we don't need it. But
he keeps going.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Honestly, I think we can be historical, not just the
best defense in the league, but I think we could
be a historical defense like the eighty five, eighty six Bears,
the lob Seahawks legion of Boom in twenty thirteen. I
think we could be that dominant if we just put
all the things together. And that's the side of the ball,
Colleen that doesn't use Aaron Rodgers, right.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I know.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
So what I'm kind of getting from you right now
is like a little a little stress, maybe a little
anxiety style because everyone is so confident and hard knocks
really put together this like beautiful image of this Jets
team that has everything going right, all the pieces are
(03:42):
in place.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The future is theirs to grab.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
And take hold of and do whatever they want to
do with it, you know, unless something catastrophic happens, which
never happens to the Jets.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Right, And that's kind of the crux out.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's like the Jets, they of the seven game losing
streak that ends last season and the thirteen year and
counting playoff drought. They view themselves as major players with
championship upside. But now here's the hard part, Connie, they actually.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Have to like do it right.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So as I've really enjoyed as a fan this entire summer,
this spring, everything after Rogers's arrival, but I've got i
gotta like some nerves now and watching this finale and
seeing how high the confidence is that now they got
to go and do it. Here's defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrick,
who again gassing up this plane.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He believes, God, look around, this is it, this is it.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Let's go.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
It's all we got, it's all we need, guys, am
I whatever. Twenty plus years in this league, I have
never been around a collective group with such talent and
such character. And that's real, Like this is a special
group in so many ways. It's our time. That's not
(05:08):
just words on a PowerPoint. It's our time to dominate.
It's time to go.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I've bought in, I'm here for it. Listen, of all
of the teams.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Talk me down my anxiety down a little bit.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Well, I understand this because the first time, the year
that the Eagles won the Super Bowl, they had been
playing so well and everyone was so high on them,
and it made me feel so uncomfortable to actually hear
something positive, right that was real and happening with the Eagles.
But this team really is set up so well out
of all of the teams that kind of they grab
(05:42):
your attention and then they stab you in the heart
like the Chargers, you know, like you know, the Browns
have done so many times too. But the Jets actually
feel like they are about to turn this around. That
they are the logic checks out the precipice of greatness.
Here's what I tell listen, they have logic checks out defense.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Rookie of the Year. I mean, everything is, everything.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Is set right now for them. The table is set,
and now they just have to you know, they gotta do.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They gotta eat, They gotta eat. I mean, should I
be worried about the wall Finish the wall.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Finish the wall.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Finish the wall, all right, the finale.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
So yeah, finish the wall situation, which I kind of love.
They're going to basically take snapshots and scenes from every
game every week and then put it on the wall
that long hallway that we saw in the episode, and
so they did it for the preseason, and it's kind
of like their own destiny is in their hands and
they don't want that hallway to be filled with terrible photos,
(06:38):
and they wouldn't do that anyway. But I think that
that this is kind of like a cool, nice thing.
Also from like an Artsy's Dance Go ahead. I am
so in on this, Like I wish that I could
help vote what pictures are going to go up and
what wallpaper they will be using for each week.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I like it. I am You are a seventy seven
year old woman.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And doryd Toreen Waldenstein trapped in a young woman's body.
I enjoy that about you. I can picture you in
an upstair of an old house, in an attic, in
an attic, locked away in the attic, hardwood floors, heating
and air conditioning not great, but it's okay because you've
(07:19):
been given an easel and one window and you're just painting.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
You know, I paint right, yeah, bird watch.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The bird watch and you paint and it's a tourene corner.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
But the hallway finish the wall. That is a very
confident plan that they.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Have right and again I love it. I love that
this team believes. And when Jeff Ulbrich the DC talks
about how special the defense is, and when DJ reid
Uh does the same thing in a conference call with reporters,
I get it. But I think it's just six days
to kick off, and anxiety is setting in after what's
(07:57):
been such a great ride by the way, this hallway
and a great opening opening shot in the finale. Just
it's a one hundred yard hallway that butts up against
the practice field, the main practice field and Leev Schreiber,
who big year for Leev.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Let's go give it.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Up for Leev Schreiber, not only once again and whatever
Paul Rudd in the Chief season, get off the corner.
This is Leev's territory. And he got He was in
the opening credits, cry on sure he Chiron Chiron.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I was like, cry on.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That I missed opening Chiron for the first time.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
He took a damn helicopter to the practice field.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Shout out blade.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Shout out blade. How much who paid for it?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Probably the guy with the seven million dollar chain he
used for thirty five seconds in one episode. But anyway,
Leev does a great kind of opening monologue here.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
HBO is almost like, how much are we paying? Yeah,
we gotta get we gotta get the most of him.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
In episode five, here's here's a portion of it not
from Leev because he's a hugely successful actor and there's
all sorts of legal loopholes that preclude him from being
on an NFL media property like this one day maybe,
but we did get Jason Zumwalt in an old airport.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
It's true. The hall is dead straight, and every NFL
season has twists, so the metaphor is not perfect, but
it's not bad. Besides, the most important part of this
hallway is what lies at its end. Four letters that
now means something new. J E. T s. Today is
(09:40):
about learning who's earned the privilege of being called one.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I love the light music playing in the background.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Beyond music, is it just me? Or is that his
best delivery?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
I think he likes an audience apparently he was in
the airport doing it. Who knows were what little space
he carved out.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
For He must have looked nuts.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, probably love that.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
I know we were hoping that he would be in
an actual airplane, that he would have to do it
from the bathroom.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
With Sumwat's initial plan is flying fly. He was working
Louisiana heading back up to Connecticut. His initial plan was
to do it from an airport bathroom. And then he
and then he said to me, this is this is
great with Jay. He texted me, I'm gonna send it
to a guy. He has a guy that would filter
out the ambient sound of being in an airport bathroom
or in a plane bathroom. I was like, no, we
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want that, we want the ambiance anyway. Good job by
Jay all season long, and uh leev, way to go, buddy.
So and he's teeing up who's gonna make the team? Yeah,
And the episode kind of starts on a very positive note.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Oh yeah, I can't complain you.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You've been nervous, man.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
How you feeling?
Speaker 6 (10:53):
It's been pretty good? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (10:55):
How do you think the preseason went?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
It's been pretty good, you know, yeah, well.
Speaker 9 (11:00):
You know, the odds are stacked against you from the
from the jump man. So you did a lot of
good things this camp man. Yes, so we appreciate your
hard work. Just want to let you know. Man, you're
in New York.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Jet a take out.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Hell, I know what you earned it you get, You're
gonna You're gonna do a lot of good things for us.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It's here.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Should Robert so all have be doing voice work just
as an aside. I mean, he has a great voice.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Uh Zumwal doesn't need more Competition's keep him on the sideline.
That was Xavier Gibson, one of the wide receivers young
wide outs that made the team. Jason Brownly also made
the team and also got the fake out treatment by
Oh by the way, oh Joe Douglas. He's actually with
the organization. He finally saw in episode five.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
He is alive and well.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I remember in the twenty ten Jets Hard Knocks Mike
Tannenbaum the GM at the time, you actually they were
showing Mike on the field trying to catch as many
punts as possible in his arms and like stumbling and falling.
I remember FRANCESSA on New York d be like that's
a clown. Shown.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
That's why Joe Douglas didn't show up until Nally as
the Euro Yes, I love this was very wholesome and
pure because we had mentioned that we hadn't really gotten
a lot of uh, you know, inner workings of the
coaches kind of standing on the table for their guys.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
He never did.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Actually, we had seen that in all of the other
past Hard Knocks, but not with this one, and the
Jets were pretty clear about that from the jump. So
I kind of had a feeling when I saw Jason
Brownlee go into the office with Joe Douglass for his
maiden voyage on the show, his first appearance, and Robert
Sala that this would be a fake out. But then
(12:52):
it also had me wondering because Jason Brownlee and Xavier
Gibson are such close friends.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Jason obviously called.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Old Xavier to tell him that he made the team,
and I'm sure he told him exactly what happened, like
how they faked him out. So I wonder if Xavier
kind of knew that that was happening or could be
good question a possibility, because otherwise it was like, really,
that's what you're going to do.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Oh my god, these guys think that they're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Cut Here's what Aaron Rodgers said.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I'm really proud of those guys, and he mentioned how
they didn't get big signing bonuses, they were disappointed on
draft day, but to end up with a spot on
the fifty three, and now we're a week further from
the cutdown day and week one is coming up on
Monday night. These guys look like they're safe and they're
going to be on the fifty three, which is a big,
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a really big moment obviously, and something you don't see often.
I did think it was really interesting. We never on
the on the season, we never even heard about Corey Davis. No,
and the reason on your radar, the reason why Xavier
Gibson and Jason Browny both make the team. It used
to be two kids for one spot, and Corey Davis
retires ruptly, has a big contract, veteran guy, he's had,
(14:02):
you know, really success, a lot of success and with
the Titans, not as much with the Jets, but he
was supposed to be part of it.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
He retires suddenly.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
We never hear about that on the show, or it's
never really made clear why it became two spots, but
it is and to the benefit of these guys, they
get a chance and now we'll see again. It's almost
weird after this very unprecedented season for Jets fans, We're
gonna see what these kids can do.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Are they gonna get run? Is Aaron Rodgers gonna throw
them the ball?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
See?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
And then also the other rookie that I'm super interested
in now is the running back.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Is he Abana Konda? First of all, I just like
his name is so much fun to see see right
off the tongue, and he was hurt.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
He was able to come back so quick that thigh injury.
Where he was on the field, he couldn't even feel
anyone like touching his leg, you.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Know how bad.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Like imagine everyone's gotten like either need or punched in
the arm by their buddy or some jerk like a
bu and then it's like, oh, it's sort It's almost like, yeah,
imagine being need so hard in the thigh that the
trainer comes out and you can't feel.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's a brutal game.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I can't, I can't.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I mean he was supposed to be out for a month,
came back in a week, and then we had a
chance to meet his family a little bit more nice.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
They're Nigerian.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
They talked about how they love parties, they love to celebrate,
which I just feel like I would get along so
well with this whole entire hungry.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That food looked so bomb.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I don't know what. I don't know what it was.
Maybe it was some type of rice would make.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Me not of this food look bomb? Get it to
Connie in time.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Yeah, I don't know if it was a Nigerian dish
that they were cooking, but if it was, it could
have been jallof rice.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
That is something i've Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
There's also something called puff puff, which is fried sweet
of fried sweet dough ball, which just looks like maybe isn't.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
That like a zeppee or whatever? Oh?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Probably was that a New Jersey turn and that sounds cool.
It's Italian Italian Jersey news.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Zeppel is like a do you know, Eric Roberts, you're from?
Where are you from?
Speaker 10 (16:10):
Original Los Angeles?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Ever heard of it?
Speaker 10 (16:13):
No, no idea.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
It's like you get in the bag. It's great.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
That could be a Northeast we'll find out.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
We've we've come back into this cul de sac once more.
We are Yeah, Tanzel Smart, the defensive tackle who everyone
really that watched the show.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
He was impossible not to root for. He does not
make the team.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
We notably do not see this because in you know,
old Hard Knocks days, there's a GoPro in the coaches
of the GM's office Brownley Gibson, Like, there's a cameraman
just like sitting in there hanging with him. Yeah, imagine
what those guys are thinking. It is like, am I
about to get cut with his cameraman three feet away
from me? But they weren't smart. There were no cameras
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for that. We did get though a conversation the fact,
and it was it was sad. It was sad kind
of because he's holding his young daughter and we knew,
just from how NFL Filds did such a great job
tracking his story how much this would have meant to
him and changed his life if he made the team.
He doesn't. He ends up on the practice squad, but
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that was not his goal. Here is Smart.
Speaker 11 (17:18):
You just want to get what you deserve, you know,
And I feel like I deserve. I deserve to be
on the fifty three. So if you know, if God
wanted me to be here, I'll be here. But if not,
I need to go be on the fifty three. I
just put a lot of good out there, and that's
why I read it on even like you see my face,
(17:38):
I'm not I'm upset, but I'm not like, oh, devastated,
because at the end of the day, I put everything
I could into this and it.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Is that's the human side of what makes the show
so great. And you know that's hard to watch because
how real and human it is. He say look at
my face, and his face tells the real story, right,
He's crushed.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
He's completely you can hear the frustration, but you can
also see the defeat. And I think that's like what
he's getting at when he says, look at my face, Like,
I'm not crushed, but it's like, yeah, of course he is.
And he's felt this many times over again, and he
wants this so bad. And he's holding his daughter, who's
so sweet and so cute, and he's looking at her
and it's just like, I want this for him because
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he wants it so bad, so that kind of pulls
at the heart strings.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, that I always think about. It's one of my
favorite moments in the history of Hard Knocks. It was
in the Bengal season. I believe the second Bengal season
defense another defensive tackle, Terrence Stevens, who is a great
singer and he's trying to make it on the roster.
I remember when they would show practices and games. He
(18:44):
just wasn't necessarily hanging right with the big boys about
to cry. But he's a great singer and he sings
this John Mayer song called Gravity, and the lyrics were
so poigting for the moment, and it's likevity is working
against me, gravity keeping me down and keep me where
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the light is, which was just like there were so
many kind of parallels to NFL life. And I thought
about that again with Tanzel Smart.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
But he ended up on the practice squad.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
And here's the good news.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And I did the same thing last year because I
remember I got deja vu. Here is the good news
for us people that understand the practice squad is not
where you want to be as an NFL player. But
according to my quick Internet research, the minimum for players
who have accrued more than two years in the NFL
(19:38):
or two seasons, and Tanzel is twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He bounced around a little bit starting the rams.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
You make fifteen four hundred per week, or two hundred
and seventy seven two hundred dollars for eighteen weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
That the player is a crew two of more seasons.
So that's not bad. Okay, So that's good for his family,
that's good for him.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And if things an opportunity arises, maybe we see him
at Jetlife Stadium, you know what.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
That feels like a win.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
And I'm hoping for bigger things in the future for
him and Quincy Williams.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I don't want to either. Carcuccie Board, Quincy Williams.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Carcuccie Boards, Will McDonald and Quincy Williams walking off the
field after the news broke about Tanzel.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It's business, it's not personal. It's tough. It's tough. All right,
Let's take a break. We're gonna have a very special guest.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Oh my god, I'm so excited about this.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I mean, this has been building for five apps and
now it is time big reveal.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
After this break, the old man, welcome back.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
What a day.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
How's your dad doing?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Oh he's great, A wolf awesome ed.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Wolf saw you?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Oh he sure did sign that together in the conversation
a little bit later, but from one father to another,
he around the NFL. Fans know him well. The man
that made me a Jets fan for better or that
made you and made me. You got that right too.
Cue the music, Eric Roberts.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
His name is Keith. He's stands dad, no doubt about it.
He's a big Jets fan. Wood is he going to
say the game today? Will he go game today? Hey?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Joining us now from spring Lake, New Jersey, a mere
stone's throw from the florm Park headquarters of New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
It's Keith Hanss my dad.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Hey, pop, mister hans is Hello.
Speaker 12 (22:00):
Oh I Dan and Colleen. How you guys doing.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
We're doing well? Better now?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yes, we've been wanting to have you on the Hard
Knocks podcast. We wanted to pick the right spot, and
I feel like the finale, Dad, is the perfect time
to bring you in as a Jet fan. Going back
to the name of days and first of all, what
were your thoughts, Let's talk about the finale. Anything from
the finale that really kind of stuck out to you tonight?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (22:27):
Yeah, what a finale?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You know.
Speaker 12 (22:29):
The thing that I really took from that finale was
two big things. First of all, when they were walking
down that hallway, initially right when they and they think
that was the length of a football field, right right,
And then when they at the very end they showed
how then they were sequencing putting pictures in up to
with the hard knocks, and then they were going to
(22:50):
put more pictures throughout that hallway as the season progressed.
I thought that was pretty cool because that was such
a long hallway. Yeah, it's the big thing I got.
The biggest thing I got was Salah. I thought when
his reference to Mount Everest m you know, the analogy
of you know, climbing to the top of Mount evereston.
(23:12):
You know, the Jets, you know that they really need
This is really the first time in so long that
they have, you know, good hope in the preseason going
into the season.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
With Rogers, and he pointed out Connie and the rest
of the team, they've only gotten to the base camp
right now, there's so much farther to go. And Dad,
you mentioned that hallway. We talked about the base camp. Huh, right,
We talked about at the beginning of the show, how
that hallway and how they're going to put up photos
celebrating each week, big moments from each week. It's kind
(23:43):
of like that could backfire if the season doesn't go well,
But at the same time, they don't think about that
because there's so much confidence around this team. Can you
ever remember as a Jets van at an off season
And they've had a lot of down years, obviously, but
there have been years where name it through some of
the Ken O'Brien years, Vinny Testaverdi Pennington, even Mark Sanchez,
(24:05):
there happened moments of excitement for this this fan base.
But do you ever remember it ever being like this?
Speaker 12 (24:14):
Well, when it comes to the name of years, you know,
right after the Super Bowl they made the playoffs and
then they lost the tough game to Kansas City. And
then the following season nineteen seventy one, you know, all
the Jets had really high hopes because they had a
strong defense and a great offense. And what happens in
preseason name of trying to make it tackle in those gays.
(24:35):
Six games were played in preseason, all right, I believe
tries to make it, Yes, he makes it, tries to
make it tackle of Mike Lucci, the linebacker of the
Detroit Lions, and he tears up his knee and he
missed almost the whole season. So that to me, that
was like everybody was looking for that season to be
such a to come back season for them. And then
(24:58):
of course you know that name. It had a couple
of more good years, but that was you know, the
team was never the same.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Well, listen, I've been watching Danny as you call him,
and I feel like when you're on and when I'm
around you, I have to call him Danny. Danny kind
of worked through different emotions while watching Hard Knocks, going
from just the excitement of the fact that it was
about the Jets and then working slowly towards a little
bit more of a stressed out situation because so much
(25:28):
is now around the Jets. There's so many spotlights on them.
So for you, I just want to know your experience.
Has this show given you more confidence or more anxiety
about the season coming up?
Speaker 12 (25:41):
No question about it. More confidence, totally more confidence. And
let me just say one other thing about you know
about you said how the Jets fortunes? How was I
looking at the when it comes to Danny, all right,
that's when the Sanchez years came in. That was big
post name it that we thought was going to something
have something happened, But yeah, this, watching this show, I
(26:02):
was definitely.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
On a high. Yeah, I bet. What about your opinion?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yes, I remember being in the garage with you dad
at my old house in Culver City, and it was
a Thursday night and I had a TV set up
and we had the heat lamp set up and it
was me, you, our dear departed friend Chris Westling, Greg
and Mark and we were watching the game.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Colleen was at lambeau Field while this was going on.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
We were talking about the Packers and famously called the coach.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Lafleura a bearded boy, which was great.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
But also in that conversation that was always brought back
up that you said that you didn't like Rogers.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
He's arrogant.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
That was the word, Danny, I don't like that Rogers,
He's arrogant. Has your opinion changed it all on Rogers
over the past four or five months, or even the
last five weeks with this show, you.
Speaker 12 (26:54):
Know, you're absolutely right. I did have that feeling because
he does have that sort of rough edge to him,
But not seeing the different side of Rogers which we
saw in Hard Knocks was big. You see how he
was not only to his teammates but the coaches and
then players that even in pre season. You see the
(27:14):
way they all go over to him and embrace him
and say hello. He says hello to all these guys.
You know, it's like he's not that same guy that
had that attitude in Green Bay. I don't know if
that's what I'm seeing differently, but he's certainly he's a
totally different guy.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I think it's a lot guy. I just didn't know him.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
It's like watching Dan at work. Everyone kind of comes
up to Dan. They gravitate towards him. They're giving him
high fives when he walks in the building.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Everybody loves Dam and I'm like Rogers when he was
the tail end of the packers.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I just tell everybody to get away from me.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
You know what, the mister Hansas, I have a question
for you, because for years and years and years, Dan
has been telling us about his hometown. Where you live now,
Spring Lake, would you describe it as a cold town
as Dan has?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Well, Pearl River is where I.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Grew up, Pearl River. I'm so sorry. Is that a cult?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well?
Speaker 12 (28:07):
That was Danny's description of Pearl River. You know, I
never saw any coal mines in Pearl River or anything,
but I guess Danny was referencing it to some other
things that he was equating it too. I'm not quite sure.
And Colleen, you can call me Keith.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Please, Okay, great? Great.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
The best part is my dad never really had any
issue with it, but my mom deb she'd be like,
I don't like that you call it a cult, Dad,
before we say goodbye. You know Joe Namath, your two
heroes growing up, Nameth Mickey Mantle. Okay, name it. Towering
(28:44):
figure in Jet's history. I think Aaron Rodgers if he ever,
if this ever ended, best case scenario, and and he
took this team from where they were last year to
a Super Bowl title, I think he would have clout
as a New York athlete that maybe you don't touch
name it because it was a different era too, but
(29:04):
he would be a legend in New York. You agree, right,
like Rogers has a chance to enter rarefied air as
someone's been watching the New York sports scene for a
long time. That would put him in a special category
that only a few enter.
Speaker 12 (29:21):
Absolutely, you know, if he can take this team, which
you know they have one of the toughest schedules, which
I know you guys have talked about and if he
could take him to like eleven or twelve wins of them,
hopefully for at least eleven, you know, this would put
him in a total I would definitely be There's no
other Jet quarterback I'll put it this way, other than
(29:42):
the name of it that could do what he can do.
Rogers what I feel. So yes, I would put him
right up there Jet next to Joe. But who else
on the Jet the quarterbacks over the years, could even
you know, could you even put there? You know, Testa
Verdi had some good years, but you know, pretty much
they've had some guys that really nothing really and.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I hope that right, no, nobody really Well.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I was just gonna say, I wish that we could
have Keith on a show every week.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
He's so much.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Fun, such a blast hanging out with your dad before
the super Bowl this past season. He told us so
many stories, It's fun about you growing up and it
was just like a delight. So anytime you want to
come on any of these shows, I mean even shows
that I'm not on, you should come on.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Very much.
Speaker 12 (30:28):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Let's end it this way, Dad, because you introduced Jets
fandom to me, and I learned a lot about name
It from you and watching old clips over and over
and over.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I was hoping we'd see Joe. I thought.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I was hoping we'd see him at the Hall of
Fame enshrinement where two jets went in and they played
in the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We didn't.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I was almost certain we'd see him on Hard Knocks,
but we didn't. Hope everything's good with Joe. But since
we didn't see Joe in these episodes other than a
little quick clip at the top of the show, at
the top of the season, I want to play my
favorite name is clip for you dad, as before we
say goodbye, Hit it Eric.
Speaker 13 (31:08):
Okay, sometimes they talk about drinking and conniving around with
ladies and stuff, and it seems almost Unamerican to me
for a bachelor, not to mar you know, go around
having a drink with a lady now man, and why
all of a sudden, that's becoming evil in me, just
trying to get bye. Look at that shot and.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
He buries the shot, that iconic, he buries the shot.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
He buries the shot. And if that isn't that isn't
the nineteen seventies, nothing is and that was just typical
of the way things were in those days that it
was really good. And I did get to meet Joe
one time when they used to train in Long Island
at Hofstra University and was a good friend of mine,
was on the Hostra football team. And I'll just say
this one thing quickly. He said, Keith, you want to
(31:55):
meet Joe. I said, are you kidding me? Are you
asking me that question? And I said, of course us
And he says, well, listen, he has to be in
by eleven o'clock in the dorm. And they were in
the Hosture dorm. Just would have acologized. And sure enough,
in a big Cadillac, Joe comes pulling into the parking lot,
(32:15):
gets out and starts walking up and we're right at
the doors, and I said, hey, Joe, how you doing?
Hey my favorite player?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And here I'm there.
Speaker 12 (32:24):
I'm about eighteeth at this time, right and I'm suck
get out of here, you know, very friendly, very nice.
So that's that's my name of the story.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Wow did he make did he make? Curfew?
Speaker 12 (32:33):
He made it because it was right at eleven so
and sure enough, like he said, every time, it's the
same exact thing. The car came peeling into the parking
lot literally you heard it, and then out of the
car into the and he got in of course at
eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Wow.
Speaker 12 (32:51):
Oh yeah, that's a true story.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well from one legend to another. Keith Hansas, thank you
for joining us, Papa.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
We love you, Keith, thank you like that. There you go,
my dad. I love that Hofstra story.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
To like eighteen year old kids in the seventies waiting
for the great Joe Namath to roll in.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So good he said, eleven or twelve wins.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah, he's feeling good.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But like I will, I will say that.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
If they win eleven games and it, you know, go
quietly in the playoffs, it won't feel like good enough
to me. Like I think they the bar is high
enough now where not only have to get back to
the lafts. They gotta make a little bit of noise, okay,
and then you dream big for something beyond that.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
So just making the playoffs would be a disappointment, a little.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Bit, a little let's get to do you disagree?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
No, I agree with all the fanfare and everything, but
I think too that is why some teams sometimes don't
want hard knocks because they think that it's going to
we'll get to that too much.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Let's sit up here, let's get to our final MVP.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
This is.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Votes and this is a major episode for Eric Roberts
vector voting system.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Well, I mean, first of all, he came into this
episode extremely strong. He was able to navigate all sorts
of technological issues going into our screening room. He figured
out how to work the theater, which neither one of
us know how to do.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
He just kind of sat there and heckled him while
he did it.
Speaker 10 (34:25):
That was my favorite part of the really great job
you guys cheering me on.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I thought you were.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I thought you were just setting him up to mention
that he forgot to turn on our mics at the
beginning of the taping of this episode.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
You can't win them all.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Magic of podcasts. Eric's done wonderful work all season. His
job is to be the mathematician of the group tabulating
the vector voting system. Let's do our votes for m
v P and then once we hand out these three
prize places, Eric will share with us the Hard Knocks MVP.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Third place for me this week, that's it.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Robert Sala, the motivator, I would play for that guy
any day. I like Keith Hansis, loved the Mount Everest analogy.
At first I thought it was maybe going to be cheesy,
but the way that he explained it and landed that plane.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Perfect jets exactly.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
And then you know that that the finish the wall,
I mean, that has to be his idea. So and
I think that that is like an onion type idea.
So third is solid.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It's kind of putting yourself out there.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
And we talked about it around the NFL that very
rarely does a coach get three years. If you don't
make the playoffs any of those first three years, you're gone.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
They have not made the playoffs yet in his first
two seasons.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Sala has a lot of pressure on him, but you
could tell he believes that this is the right team.
I had him as my second place vote. Okay, so
Salad does very well in our voting enough to win it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
We shall see my third place votes.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
A vote go to You know, I I love this
defensive line, love all season long.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
And by the way, if I.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Could really, can we just quick aside here if I
really had to hand out one MVP for MVP for
season five, it's Colleen.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Wolf oh Whoa.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Absolutely nailed her prediction.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Slash wish that they end Hard Knocks thanks a finale
with a trip to Broadway. Yeah, and what do we
see in the first fifteen damn minutes? Aaron Rodgers, Zach Wilson,
a host of other players at the MJ Show on Broadway.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
You nailed it, my dream. This is all I wanted.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
It's show business, maybe your box office.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Like, on one hand, I would love to be like, yes,
this prediction was so awesome and I knew it was
going to happen. I saw it before it even happened.
But also it's like I would like to believe that
maybe I planted the seed and they were like, you
know what, that is a great idea call.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
We will all go to Broadway, so, uh, here we are.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You don't know for sure that's not what happened.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
I know, but either way, this is the power of
putting things out in the universe and seeing them happen.
So there this was like, this was so awesome, Like
I love this defensive line too, and I'll let you
keep going.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah, I was gonna say Tanzel Smart was one of
the people there. Mister Carcucci board himself Michael Clemens. I
don't know what's Clemens there. I'm not positive, but I.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
More we saw him in a different part of the show.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
A general like shout out to the D Line last week,
I gave it to Smart kind of representing the D Line.
I'm giving it to Michael Clemens for a birthday wish
to Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
That kind of sounded like a death threat. Let's listen
to it.
Speaker 12 (37:45):
Ah, Damn it is sausage birthday, though, I think so.
Speaker 11 (37:50):
Yeah, Damn.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
Smart, Happy birthday, Happy birthday, Bro, we go happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
If you have a great I appreciate it.
Speaker 12 (38:09):
Bro. Not making eye contact, No, won't look at him
in the eye.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
And there's more to that story.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
By the way Clemens has him by the chest, like
by his jersey, It's really funny.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
This is Sauce Gardner, who is arguably the greatest young
defensive star in the sport entering his second season, being
grabbed by the jersey collar and refusing to make It's
like my dog when I come home and he chewed
something up. He just he won't even look at me.
I don't know what the backstory is between Clemens, and
it seems very pretty clearly like a bit, but I
(38:44):
just like the idea that, like, there's a whole other
thing that's been going on through training camp that we
were not pretty to.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
So all we have is that with no context. And
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
But I also did not see Sauce laughing at the
at the bit quote unquote.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
So I don't know what the story is.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Sometimes a bit is only a bit to one side, right.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
This actually works perfect because my second place vote and
I guess if we're gonna do D line, so you
had it for the full D line or clemens on
behalf Okay, So I'm gonna go with Solomon Thomas here.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Run.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
He was sort of I would like to think that
he was the leader in getting this Broadway show and
the field to happen in general. And they went, they
saw Michael Jackson. I think Solomon Thomas said that this
was his fourth time seeing the show, so avid show
watcher and Broadway guy. But it was just so fun
(39:39):
to see all of the players out in the wild
and at a musical too, so they're dancing, they're singing.
I just wanted to know, though, the people in the
audience that were sitting behind the players they had to
deal with all of the hard knocks cameras very annoyed
about that. That would have been absolutely on my radar.
So I don't know how they felt about it, but
(39:59):
it was.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Probably not a cheap ticket. No, you know, to the MJ.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Broadway Show, Nathaniel Hackett had on a sport coat that
was cute.
Speaker 10 (40:07):
Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Yeah, they caught Solomon Thomas had a moonwalk. That was
That was the part that I like though, and he
was not good at it, but it was funny.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I should before we move on to our second and
first place votes, I have a prize for you.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I have a I have a yeah, a prize or
a surprise.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
It's a it's a surprise, and it's also an award
for being so prescient with your prediction. Yes, earlier this season,
the premiere, in fact, we had a certain player that
wears number eight on the Jets wearing a certain hat
that you thought was cool. So behind the scenes here
(40:50):
at NFL Media, the yes, the hat that says cherish
the little Things a gift from NFL Media.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I love this.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
I'm gonna wear this all the time. First of all,
it's black and white. So it's gonna go with so
many things, including this outfit. Yes, I love baseball hats.
I love trucker hats. This is going in the rotation.
I love this.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
All right? What'd you get me?
Speaker 4 (41:16):
My presence is the gift?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
All right? So you deserve that for that prediction.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
L I owe you. Here's this visitor's badge because I
passed today.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Thank you. That's perfect. We even, all right?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
I said I had Sola second, Kay, you had second place?
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Solomon Thomas, Solomon.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Thomas first place.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Who do you got Aarons same seas? We both have Rogers?
Speaker 5 (41:48):
Just I mean he was a staple throughout this entire series, clearly,
but the UFO story Loane really drove home my first
place MVP vote for him.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I have to say, Colleen, I got something else here?
Speaker 4 (42:02):
What else is over there? That's like Christmas?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
My banana just felt.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
You know how many you know, how many like you
know how many things have happened this year where I've
thought to myself or this during this show.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I feel like this was made for me.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Like it's a show about the Jets, and you know,
all these different things this Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
And the UFO tidbit from Aaron.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Rodgers felt like I was watching Unsolved Mysteries, which is
like my favorite show forever, Robert Sock forever. I wanted
to bring in this Leslie Nielsen autographed photo that I believe.
I want to say this my sister or my brother
maybe or maybe my cousin who was a family members.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
It's signed.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
My son was born in twenty fourteen, Jack Luck and laughs.
Leslie Nielsen from Naked Gun, who was prominently discussed by
Nate Hackett and Company as a legend of the forum.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Now here's you want to talk about unsolved?
Speaker 4 (43:00):
That's so cool.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Leslie Nielsen died in twenty ten. H my son was
born four years later. So I don't know who signed
this or if Leslie.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
I don't know. I just want to say that, Leslie Nielson.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
You got this gift before Jack was born.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
I got it for his his birth. Yes, Leslie Nielsen
signed eight by ten, four years after Leslie passed. Wow,
so somebody my son's name did not create like exist
in the ether when Leslie left us.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
So what an unsolved mystery.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
That's an unsolved mystery. Now another unsolved mystery. Aaron Rodgers
with his old cow teammate in the New Jersey Woods,
seeing something that changed them.
Speaker 8 (43:50):
We had this great dinner at his house in Jersey.
I was making my way to bed. I had like
a five am wake up, and I was I was
getting down to bed. I heard this alarm and distance
going off. It just didn't seem like normal. When I
heard some rustling downstairs, so I got up, walked downstairs.
A beautiful night, and Steve and his brother and I
(44:16):
walked outside and up in the clouds, you know, we
heard this sound and we saw this tremendously large object
moving through the sky and it was like a scene
out of Independence Day when the ships are coming into
the atmosphere and they're creating this like kind of explosion
(44:38):
type fire in the sky.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
I am on the edge of my seat.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
My heart is pounding, Aaron, I need more more more.
Speaker 8 (44:49):
I stood frozen to three of us on the front
stoop of Steve's house, and about thirty seconds later, we
heard the real recognizable sound of fight jets going that
seemed to be chasing this object. And again we just
(45:12):
stood there and just disbelieve. For another few minutes. Nobody
said a word, and then we all kind of looked
each other like, did we just see what we think?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
We just saw?
Speaker 8 (45:21):
What was that?
Speaker 4 (45:22):
You saw it? You definitely saw it. That's what it was.
That was a UFO.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Now, Rogers obviously has taken his fair share of slings
and arrows for being a little bit out there. And
I can understand why a certain like a doubter or
a skeptic might say, Oh, that's the guy who's going
to lead you to it for super Bowl in fifty
five years.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, you're damn right, that's the guy.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
You know why, because he's seen the light.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Because he's right, He's right.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
That story was insane, you.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Know what a good music yougo is such a long
way by the way, that was very stacky and unsought mysteries.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Good jab bravo as usual.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
They really really set it up well. But I believe him.
My dad is seen a UFO. And Aaron Rodgers even
said in that whole retelling of the story that they
were right by a nuclear power plant, like a few
miles away from one, and that is a noted.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Area UFO classic.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
Behavior exactly, And that's where my dad saw his because
he was in it was in the middle of the night,
Ed Wolf manning the air traffic control tower a straight
sho he is. He does not like, he doesn't exaggerate
about things. He's not a storyteller that like, you know,
just adds in fake dee for the stake.
Speaker 10 (46:45):
Ever story, Yeah, never.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
And he's even like sometimes a little bashful about telling
the story. And he's at an air traffic control tower
in the tower in the middle of the night, and
it's at a missile silo because that's where he was
stationed during not and he sees he sees this bright
light that's not on the radar, and he's sitting with
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someone else and he sees the light zigzag across the
sky and then disappear. And he turns to the guy
next to him and he said, did you just see that?
And the guy goes, unless you want to go to Vietnam,
we didn't see anything.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
To Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
By the way, you can only say noam if you
actually battled.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Him during NOM he was manning the nuclear missile silo.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I listen, man, and it's coming out more and more.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
And Dorry and Dorr. Yeah, Ed, I believe you.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
I believe your story, and I believe my quarterback saw
something he wasn't maybe supposed to say, are we allowed
to be talking about it?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Who's watching us? All question?
Speaker 4 (48:04):
They are? Of course they are. I know many people
who have seen one.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
All right, I think not to take the air out
of the balloon on this one. But I think it's
pretty clear who the MVP of the season is. But
why don't we go five to one Eric Roberts and
according to the vector voting system? Because I'm just gonna say, Connie, yes, now,
I don't want to step on it. I have in
my mind, my mind, who is the runner up? I
(48:28):
guess that I have. But let's hear okay, I actually.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Think I know. I'm going to write it down what one, two,
three is?
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Okay, Okay, I'll do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
All right, there we go.
Speaker 10 (48:41):
So how about you go one to four because after
four it's event started four thought for you.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Let me just make sure I have this written down
for posterity. Okay, I am good, I have my I'm
like the mentalist right now, I'm writing it down.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
I love that you.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
Call me and Doreen, but like you're writing stuff out
and you have Leslie Nielsen a framed photo.
Speaker 10 (49:05):
I'm with you. On the writing man, I love I
love writing.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
There you go, okay.
Speaker 10 (49:09):
Fourth place guys Quinnin Williams with twelve points.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Q you okay. I would have guessed that too. I
didn't go to four, but that makes sense. He had
a great year defensive lineman. It's Sauce Gardner who has
arguably the highest upside of all these defenders and the
guy that is the kind of face of the defense.
But Q is a star who just got paid and
really showed himself well in this series.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
Is just like a nice guy personality.
Speaker 10 (49:36):
Had a pretty funny line in the last episode, you
don't love me, you love that I get you sacks right.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
What I do for you to mister Hackett. Yes, third place,
my name is Nathaniel Hackett. Thanks, thanks to see you
out here.
Speaker 10 (49:47):
Yep so and then either here was He's always good
for a good one liner.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
So he you know, that is the power of Nate
Hackett offensive coordinator and what a great job this show did,
kind of rehabilitating some of his image after the.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
Broncos Rogers Big Butterfly exactly.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Me too, hack Okay, So Hackett gets third.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
He consistently he was a little quiet in the finale,
but overall, week after week was living one liners.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 10 (50:16):
Second place, second place, guys, Roberts.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
That's right, Salah. I think he also quitted himself very well, Connie.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
This season he absolutely did Leader of Men and he
should be doing way more voice work.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Well, Jason doesn't need again more competition, which means, of
course first place. And the last year the winner of
the Hard Knocks MVP was somebody probably Dan Dan Campbell
Dan camp This year, twenty twenty three Hard Knocks MVP
Aaron Rodgers. Yes, hees Aaron Rodgers not.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
Gonna be so excited about it.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Look at this graphic.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
I mean, Eric the dead MIC's at the top of
the show, completely forgotten. Now, yeah, look at that Hard
Knocks MVP number. Even a big old smile.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
He's just so happy to receive this honor out of
all of his honors.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
And look he gets another MVP, which is great.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
And that's that's yeah. It takes us too, Yes, he's
got five.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Now takes us to final thoughts of the season, Colleen, Uh,
what what did he get by?
Speaker 2 (51:20):
How many points did he finish with do you have that?
Speaker 10 (51:22):
Finished with forty two and and Sala had Sala had
a distant fourteen?
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Whoa, I didn't even I thought we were kind of
like we're a little.
Speaker 10 (51:31):
The problem was the bread out the like the points
behind first pretty like so it's never saw like a
second second second. It was always like Aaron and then
like a mixed smash.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Of like see that's the vector voting.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Vector voting system.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
But that I mean, if we would have come to
any other conclusion other than Aaron Rodgers is the MVP
of the show, we would have been it would have
been the vector voting system would have been torn asunder.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, he was the MVP. He deserved to be the MVP.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
Hopefully he's the real MVP in real football, starting next
Monday night against Robins's Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
Hold on a second, though, are we paying off? What
did you have written down here for your productions?
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Close? I had Rogers, Hackett, Sala, what did Hackett at twelve?
Speaker 10 (52:15):
It was fourteen for Sala, Hackett for twelve, Quinnen and
Hackett both at twelve points.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
And Connie she did it again, you get that hat again.
I was gonna take the hat away, but now you
get it. It's mine cherish the little things. Starting with
Aaron Rodgers wearing that in episode one, I thought this
was a great platform for him, and it feeds into
my final thought, Connie, teams need to relax. Teams need
to stop taking themselves so seriously. And I include the
(52:42):
Jets on this. I mean, you are not in charge
of the Manhattan project here. You You are a football team,
and Hard Knocks is a program that should not be
seen as a distraction or in any way an impediment
to your goals. And the said goal hoisting Lombardi trop
in February or Connie, to look at it another way,
(53:05):
if having NFL cameras on your property for like a
month is enough to sidetrack your summer and somehow booby
trapped the season to come, you were doomed anyway.
Speaker 5 (53:17):
Got bigger problems to worry about than the Hard Knock count.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
So to all the teams, and I hated it as
a Hard Knocks lover that the enduring storyline leading up
to the season was like, who's gonna do it? They
can't find anybody. Please, Teams look at this as the
golden opportunity that is so clearly is to show off
your players and coaching staff and ownership and fans and
(53:43):
your state of the art facility and your team history.
In short, let NFL Films cook. You'll be better off
in the end.
Speaker 5 (53:50):
Yes, isn't this whole thing what we do? We talk
about a game. A game is entertainment, this show is entertainment.
We're in show business.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Or is her just once said you play to win
the game, you play to be on Hard Knocks.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
I nailed that, and you know we did get a
little bit of less access from the Jets also, And
I don't want that to be the start of a
new trend. Now, let these team, let the NFL Film's
crew do their job, and kind of everybody will win.
Does he think anybody watched these five episodes of Hard
Knocks or any of the past season, maybe the Brown season,
you would come out of it thinking a little different
about the team. Hugh Jackson and Greg Williams going at
(54:30):
it behind the sea. Yeah, but it makes it paints
you in a positive light if you are a team
that it has its together right.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
And I think the Jets do right now.
Speaker 5 (54:39):
And that's what's so exciting, and I think that it
shows confidence in an organization. If you say yes to
Hart Knocks, it shows that you don't have anything to
hide and you're not worried about distractions because you have
what it takes to go and win when it actually matters,
and that this is really just base camp right here
before we get to Mount Everest. And you know what else,
I would like to see more off site gatherings like Broadway.
(55:02):
So to the future producers of Hard Knocks, please take
us off site and I want more.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Field Do you want more for see? I don't need
that as much.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
I thought they'd got a good job of kind of
raining that in a little bit this season. What I
would like to see in the future is more behind
the scenes. I want to see more table pounding and
things like that. I thought they kind of got it
just right with We went to Broadway, we did some charcouterie,
we got some tattoos with Will McDonald.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
It was nice. They did a nice job. It was
a very enjoyable and it was.
Speaker 5 (55:33):
There and they absolutely crushed the sopranos open like they
did New York.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Well that's the other.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Thing, Like I said, Leslie Nielsen name dropped. Okay, my
favorite comedic actor ever. Love them so much that from
Beyond the Grave he autographed the glossy for my newborn son.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Sopranos probably my favorite show ever. Yeah, Jets my favorite
team ever.
Speaker 4 (55:56):
You've always loved Hard Knocks too.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
And Colleen my favorite.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
Hey doing a show with you being lucky enough to
do that, I uh, really it's pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (56:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
I'm sad that it's over.
Speaker 5 (56:08):
I am too, But I do think that we have
one more piece of business do we to get to
do we? Because when I think about New York and
the Northeast, I think about the food. People always ask me,
you know, do I miss Philadelphia and Philly right down
the street from New York. I say, of course, I
(56:29):
miss my family, but I miss the sandwiches. I missed
miss cars. Any type of bread please? So WHOA what
do we have here?
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Get a camera on this?
Speaker 4 (56:43):
Okay, so we have some food being delivered?
Speaker 2 (56:46):
That is what do we got here?
Speaker 4 (56:48):
Colleen, I honestly don't know what we have is. It's
a tailor pork roll situation.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
It's a tailor pork roll.
Speaker 4 (56:55):
And disco fries.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
Disco fries.
Speaker 5 (56:57):
Disco fries was not like part of my Philadelphia life.
So thank you so much, Parker.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
What is on a disco fry? Let's that looks like this?
Well look at this, Colleen, let's get a picture of this.
This is basically New Jersey staples. Uh, park can you
get in the shot there?
Speaker 2 (57:16):
Staples?
Speaker 4 (57:17):
Get out?
Speaker 3 (57:18):
I said in but running staples of New Jersey diners.
There's nothing more in New Jersey than diners.
Speaker 4 (57:27):
And what do we have here?
Speaker 5 (57:30):
So it's like in a breakfast sandwich of sorts with
is this tailor pork roll?
Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah, this is it?
Speaker 4 (57:34):
And so uh Taylor pork roll like and jeez.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
That's everything you would ever want in a sandwich. And
Taylor is a brand of pork but everyone just calls.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
It a tailor, right, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (57:45):
My dad calls it tailor pork roll, like the full name,
which I think is not popular.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
Where did this come from? By the way, it just
got wheeled in at it into this studio.
Speaker 10 (57:56):
Is courtesy of the huddle are nice people? Have theres
that the fun fed and hook us up with all
the great food from upstairs.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
That is love.
Speaker 10 (58:04):
Mauriel put it together. Climb In Schneider had their hands
in involved in this. You know, I feel like we
sh a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (58:10):
Try a bite here, right.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
We were eating with the mic is always weird.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
But I don't know. Do we say by and then
by yeah?
Speaker 2 (58:15):
Why don't we do that again? Yes?
Speaker 3 (58:17):
Thank you to Matt Schnider, everybody behind the scenes here.
Thank you to Ken Rogers. Yeah, the NFL Films who
gave us this great.
Speaker 4 (58:25):
Wearing show hard knock shirt.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Proudly that we are so obviously.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
I hope we express it a door and we hope
to be back here again next year. Until then, he
the call, all right, let's get in on its
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